FOFCs Greatest Athlete

[Breeze]

While running my World’s Greatest Athlete (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showthread.php?t=40532) dynasty, I was asked by thealmighty if I could make it interactive and allow the FOFCers to compete. Well, while sitting in traffic on Friday I came up with a series of tables that should allow me to create decathletes. The building of the tables will take some time and effort, so I’d like to make sure the interest is high enough to justify the time.

The only real decisions to make revolve around how aggressive you wish to be with your jumps and throws, and how many attempts you’re willing to take (too many attempts result in fatigue affecting subsequent events). It won’t be difficult or time consuming.

If you would be interested in competing in a decathlon please sign up.

[Breeze]

If anyone would like specifics on how to play or how the player cards will be created before signing up let me know. I was planning to save myself the trouble of writting it all out until I knew I had enough interest, but then I began to think that some people might not sign up without more specifics.

[albionmoonlight]

I'll do it.

[JeffNights]

Hey i'll hump in!

[JeeberD]

Count me in...

[Travis]

Oh, I want to play.

[Blade6119]

im in

[SFL Cat]

Bah, this is an exercise in futility. It is already established that I am the greatest ever! :p

[vex]

I'm in.

[PilotMan]

I will give it a go.

[CHEMICAL SOLDIER]

Although my rekigion forbids it what the hey IM IN TOO.

[SirFozzie]

I'm In Three.

[MrBug708]

Meeeeeee!

[ntndeacon]

sure! why not

[thealmighty]

You know I'm good to go.

[Breeze]

OK, that's enough to justify building the work! If you haven't already signed up feel free to do so. I want to take a moment to discribe how I plan to create each players skill card:


First a few background facts:

- Each player has a column (or set of columns) for each of the 10 events with possible rolls ranging from 10 - 39.

- There is a 1 in 6 chance of rolling in the 10s, 2 in 6 of rolling in the 20s and 3 in 6 of rolling in the 30s

- The field events (minus pole vault and high jump) are divided into 3 columns, safe, average and aggressive - players annouce which column they will use prior to their attempt

- The cards are based on templates where injuries are preset, as are some "NG" (no good) attempts.


Now My Plans:

- I have created a 5 skill types that players will attach a point value to: Speed, Power, Endurance, Athletic Ability and Technique.
- Each player will have 375 points to assign to the 5 skills (not to exceed 100 points in any 1 skill)
- Each event is divided into the percent of the above skills needed to be successful.
- The players ratings in each skill will be combined with a table for each event to determine the players event score
- The event score will check against a table to determine if the player is an A, B or C level performer in the event.
- The player will then have his card populated with “weighted random” results based on their level. (I know that sounds cryptic - but I'll explain below)

Populating Player Cards:

In an effort to populate the player cards:
- I divide the existing players into A, B, and C level performers for each event (5 athletes in each group)
- I then put all 216 possible outcomes (3 dice) for all athletes into a column for each event - divided by level - call it the total outcome table.
- Then I'll generate a random number that will reference the total outcome table - for every possible non-template (minus injuries, auto fouls, NG) result in the player card.

Because we are using the existing cards divided up by ability in the event I've created a weighted probability that if you're skills say you are good in an event, your results should be good, but because the cards will be populated by random checks against the total outcome table we can have significantly different cards between players in the same level. If you are an A level performer, but your random check against the table only references the bad outcomes of the 5 decathletes used to create that table your card will not be any better or as good as a B level player, but the odds of that happening are lower because the table being used to generate the card has fewer bad outcomes - Hince the "weighted randomness".

I know all that sounds confusing so I'll try to explain it quickly and in plain English. To make sure I'm referencing results accurately - I'm using the existing player cards, but I want to make sure the results are weighted correctly so I'm referencing all possible dice rolls rather than just the 30 on the cards. I'm splitting the existing players into 3 levels to create different weighted results (a, b, & c), and I'm allowing the FOFCers to "Pick their Poison" by assigning points to the different skills, which will determine which level they fall into.

OK maybe that wasn't so short and quick. Maybe I should shut up now before I confuse people so much they start begging out. :rolleyes:

If you have any questions or suggestions, or if you'd like me to confuse you more with excessively verbose explanations, just pipe up.

[Breeze]

By the way: don't post your point totals by skill here: I'll have you PM them to me instead. I'd hate for someone to win by looking at how others alloted their points and then doing just the opposite.

[Chas in Cinti]

I'm in... will send PM....

-Chas

[SirFozzie]

sent PM

[Breeze]

I'm going to add 1 more rule to submitting skill points (and if any who have already submitted want to make changes you may). No skill may have lower than 50 points allocated to it.

[kingfc22]

I'm in...will send in PM late tonight

[Travis]

PM sent earlier today.

[ntndeacon]

Pmed earlier too.

[Breeze]

Just an update, I have PMs for:

- Chas
- Travis
- SirFozzie
- ntdeacon
- Al Mighty
- Kingfc22

[Breeze]

I have another update on the dynasty. I've built 8 of the 10 tables and in the process I realized all the templates are not the same. I want to pass this along so you can consider it when assigning your skill points (anyone who has submitted can make adjustments if they wish).

The only 2 events that I've noticed a deviation from the template are high jump and pole vault. In those events not only do the average results go down, but the chances for a foul increase as the levels decrease. So C level players will have a harder time getting a successful result (though hardly impossible).

I will assign the event templates randomly to those signed up to play. Here is how I'll do it:

- I will assigning a number (1-5) for each of the existing decathletes making up the level.

- Then I'll roll a random number and the result will be matched to the decathlete and that persons event column (template) will be used for the FOFCer I rolled for.

[Breeze]

I will be finished with the tables, shortly - so get your skill points in.

[Breeze]

Tables are finished.

If I've confused anyone - please feel free to ask a question.

[Breeze]

Travis just sent me the following PM:

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Hey man, not sure if you're generating this information in the game (and just editing the ratings), but if we can submit the following, I forgot to do it with the skill point message earlier.

Name: Darius Lesgettham
Nationality: Canadian

The answer is you can absolutely do this. Feel free to create as elaborate a background for your character as you want. Also feel free to interject, trash talk, pout, conduct an interview, etc. The more interaction the better.

In fact, email me your characters info and I'll post it for each athlete prior to the start of competition.

Thanks for the question Travis.

[SirFozzie]

Name: David Yellope
Nationality: Great Britain

My guy's pretty much an all-rounder. He has to hope the big guns falter in their off events or him to post a personal best in a couple events

[albionmoonlight]

Name: Marvin Mello
Nationality: United States

Signed a 15 year endorsement deal with Mello Yello last year. The massive amounts of sugar and caffiene running through his system make him really fast, but he does tend to tire quickly.

[ntndeacon]

Name: Deacon Palmer
Nationality: Malawi

Winner of the Pan-Africa Games Decathalon 5 years running. Is brother of Prime Minister William Palmer

[Breeze]

OK, I have 7 entries (complete with skill stats) - the 6 listed above, plus albionmoonlight.

Of the people that signed up to play earlier I'm still waiting on stats from:

MrBug
JeffNights
JeeberD
Blade6119
SFL Cat
Vexroid
PilotMan
Chemical Soldier

<i>Plus anyone else that would like to get in.</i>

If you missed the note about skill points, (and I don't know why you would've...it was only buried in about a 2000 word, convoluted post :rolleyes: ) I need 375 points distributed between: speed, power, endurance, athletic ability and technique. Each category can have between 50 and 100 points.

I'm holding off on creating cards for the players that have already submitted their stats to make sure the % deviation I have set for A, B, and C level holds up under additional data. So get those stats in - so we can get on to the fun stuff and you can stop reading my confusing explainations.

[Chas in Cinti]

Name: Persimmon Pflaggstettler
Nationality: New Zealend

Though not the most athletic of competitors, constant attention to detail and persistance make this competitor a challenger in and out of the Pacific Rim.

[PilotMan]

I try and get you something late tonight or tomarrow.

[SirFozzie]

I try and get you something late tonight or tomarrow.

obviously, PilotMan's character is Russian :D

[kingfc22]

Name: David Gonzalez
Nationality: Mexican

This well-rounded athlete learned his trade jumping fences to cross the border. He learned stamina, speed and how to jump high because of this.

[PilotMan]

obviously, PilotMan's character is Russian :DThe funny thing is that is what I was thinking. The subconcious works in strange ways.

[PilotMan]

Vladislav Ivanov
Russia

Vlad is the Russian national champion and is a product of the great Russian training program. He was selected at a young age for track and field, and has blossomed ever since. He has been accused of using performance enhancers but denies everything and has tested negative in every test that he has had. He like many of his countrymen is a little rough around the edges, but physically he is an imposing force.

[Breeze]

I now have 10 entries but there are still several who signed up initially to play that haven't sent in their skill points. I've PMed them to make sure they realized I'm waiting on information before I start. Hopefully, we'll get a quick response and be able to develop your player sheets soon.

By the way, the bio's have been great and we have a nice international mix

[JeeberD]

Brendan A Eckberg is aformer Swedish rugby player turned decathlete after being banned for life from the Swedish Rugby League for sucker punching both an opponent and a ref in the same match.

[thealmighty]

Al Mighty is the Ireland national champion, which is to say that noone had ever heard of him before he burst onto the scene at the NCAAs. He had a standout performance for Notre Dame, brought on perhaps by the fury he feels each time he dons the green and gold- he actually hates Notre Dame, the arrogance and lousy attitude, but a scholly is a scholly, right?

Unfortunately, he was too drunk at the NCAAs and was kicked out of the meet with one event left while leading the field by 1000 points. This led to his being expelled from Notre Dame, adding more fuel to his already stoked fires.

Al is on a mission- and when he figures out what that mission is, he will be something...somewhere...doing...whatever.

[StanGunner]

StanGunner
I will try to make me pappy proud!

[Travis]

Darius Lesgettham was known as the fastest man on snowshoes and able to spear an animal at 200 feet. Upon hearing that skills like these (well, without the tennis rackets on his feet) could be used to achieve fame and fortune (and chicks without hair on their legs), Darius decided to begin the pursuit of his new noble dream...

[vex]

Vex Elli
American

[Breeze]

OK, I've got 16 entries, and I'm going to start building player cards today. If you're interested in joining and haven't done so already - PM me your skill points (explained above).

I could also use character names for Chemical Soldier, Vexroid and SFL Cat - since everyone else has created real names.

[Breeze]

Everyone - I am currently creating the player cards and a thought occured to me:

How much information do I make available to you about your own player card, and how much information should be available to each of you about your opponents?

I have a couple of ideas.
- I can email you a copy of your player card to view
- I can tell you what your skill level by event is
- I can let you know max heights/distances/speeds etc.

As for your opponents
- I can tell you which level they fall into for each event
- I can only tell you which events they excel or do poorly in
- We can make all cards available on all players

I'd appreciate input from you on this one.

[Chas in Cinti]

I would suggest just doing a preview (similar to your previous thread), and providing a "look" at each athletes' two or three best, and two or three worst events.

-Chas

[albionmoonlight]

Everyone - I am currently creating the player cards and a thought occured to me:

How much information do I make available to you about your own player card, and how much information should be available to each of you about your opponents?

I have a couple of ideas.
- I can email you a copy of your player card to view
- I can tell you what your skill level by event is
- I can let you know max heights/distances/speeds etc.

As for your opponents
- I can tell you which level they fall into for each event
- I can only tell you which events they excel or do poorly in
- We can make all cards available on all players

I'd appreciate input from you on this one.
I'd like to know as much as possible about myself, and have a vague sense of the others (i.e. what events are their strongest and weakest).

[Travis]

I'll ditto the max about self information and an overview for others.

So my vote would be for our characters information being PM'd to us (as detailed as you wish to make it) then a general overview to start the actual thread that talks about each athlete's positives and negatives.

[vex]

OK, I've got 16 entries, and I'm going to start building player cards today. If you're interested in joining and haven't done so already - PM me your skill points (explained above).

I could also use character names for Chemical Soldier, Vexroid and SFL Cat - since everyone else has created real names.

It's in the post above yours:)

[Breeze]

It's in the post above yours:)


Ahhh...no. I thinks it's quite a way up.


Oops. Sorry Vex - though you were asking about my (explained above comment). I really should read a bit more carefully. :rolleyes:

[Breeze]

Just an FYI

I ended up with 40 A level, 78 B level and 42 C level skill table checks.

[Breeze]

We're ready to roll.

It seems that everyone wants to know as much about themselves as possible. If you would like I can PM you about your player before each event or I can give you everything upfront (which will require a bit more time before we actually start recording scores).

I can also do a preview of each event (like in the World's Greatest Athlete thread) to let you know who are the event favorites - if that will suffice for info on your competitors.

Let me know and we'll get started.

[Breeze]

One more thing, Would you like a new thread for the events - or just keep going in this one?

[JeeberD]

I'm fine with PMs before the individual events so that we can go ahead and get this sucker rolling. And I have no problems with keeping the events in this thread...

[PilotMan]

I agree with Jeebs. Event by event, although it would be nice to know what your strengths and weaknesses are before you decide to go easy in the event that would be your best. You need to be able to have enough info to lay a strategy out for each event.

[Breeze]

Here's the deal then. I'll PM each of you with your skill level for each event. That should let you know at least how good you should be in each event before they occur. Then before each event I'll PM you with more specific information.

One thought though: in real life (yeah...like this is anything close to real life) you would know ahead of time which events your competitors are good in. Sort of like PilotMan's comment about having enough info to form a strategy. Knowing your opponent is a great 2nd day guy might affect how many high jump attempts you make or how aggressive you are with your shot or discus throw.

I could post everyones skill levels by event. Or I could give a high level for each athlete before we start. I want to provide you guys with as much info as you need. So let me know how you want to handle the above mentioned items.

Sorry, I know it seems I'm talking in circles, but I don't want to get part way through and find out I forgot something.

[Travis]

Ditto'ing PilotMan on this one in all areas.

[Breeze]

...in 3, 2, finger point for 1 and then points to me....

Hello and welcome to Panathinaiko Stadium in beautiful Greece. We are here for a very rare event - a stand alone decathlon. This event is not part of the Olympics or World Championships, it's not even a regional meet. But this event was so large that ESPN had to be on hand (well it was this or reruns of Tilt). After much anticipation the FOFC Decathlon begins today. Sixteen world class athletes have entered, and the competition should be extremely tight. The ironic thing is...this if the first time any of these decathletes has faced off in head-to-head competition. Despite the fact they are all outstanding performers - they've never met on the field of play. That makes predicting a winner - next to impossible. The participants include:

Persimmon Pflaggstettler - New Zealand - this guy is a very consistent performer, solid across the board, the only thing he lacks is natural athletic ability, but his technique is so strong he's typically able to overcome that weakness.

Darius Lesgettham - Canada - Darius is dangerous in quite a few events, but his endurance is lacking, we'll have to see how much that affects him throughout this event.

David Yellope - Great Britain - David is a guy who isn't exceptionally fast, strong or athletic, so you'd think he would be a consistent performer, and in fact, he views himself in that way, but ironically he actually scores quite well in a few events and comes up short in a couple others. Much more up and down than you would think he should be.

Deacon Palmer - Malawi - This African performer, who is the brother of the Country's Prime Minister is also a 5 time Pan-African champion. Not overly fast or powerful, but extremely fit and athletic, Palmer hopes to survive the first couple events then make a charge.

Al Mighty - Ireland - Mighty is technically perficient and very solid across the board, but he doesn't excel in any 1 area and that may hurt him in the long run.

David Gonzalez - Mexico - Gonzalez claims most of his training comes from fleeing from boarder patrol agents, but ironically, it's not endurance or even speed that make him a tough competitor it's athletic ability and power.

Marvin Mello - USA - The first of several US athletes, Mello recently signed an endorsement deal with Mello Yello. He uses the sugar and caffiene to generate quick bursts of energy and the strange technique works well for him in the early events, then he seems to hit a wall. I'm sure he's hoping for an early lead that he can cling to, and hopefully his heart won't explode during the event.

Brian Babson - Australia - The former boxer, former golfer has decided to give track and field a try, saying, "I got tired of getting hit in the face and missing 3 foot putts." He's actually much better than people expected him to be, having great speed, power and technique. He competes for Australia because his last golf event was held there, and he failed to win enough money to return home. Surprisingly, his endurance is lacking, his comment when confronted by that question is "I did enough road work for a lifetime when I was a boxer" and of course "if you ask me about it again, I'll kick your ass."

Kyle Kappe - Holland - Kappe is fast, athletic and technically sound. However, his power and endurance are lacking. Kappe is another one to watch in the early events.

Vladislav Ivanov - Russia - Russia's lone entry into the event follows a long line of successful decathletes. the Russian national champion was selected at a young age for track and field, and has blossomed ever since. He has been accused of using performance enhancers but has never tested positive. He says there is no truth to the rumor that if he doesn't get a medal in this event he'll be executed when he returns, "No way, this is the 21st Century, we only did that in the 20th."

Brendan A Eckberg - Sweden - The former Rugby player with a hot temper is a tough customer, and most of his game is built around power. Look for him to do well in the Shot Putt.

Kem Soldier - USA - Athletic, technical and a guy that can run forever. Kem is built differently that most of the other competitors, so I expect he will make quick jumps up the leaderboard when we get to events where he excels, because he excels in many events the other contestents are weak in.

Stan Gunner - USA - Power and technique will have to carry Stan if he's going to find himself on the medal platform. His interesting training techniques, designed by his father, have worked well for him so far...and I believe he may actually be strong enough and technically proficient enough...to win. That would not only make his father proud, but also rich as other athletes will flock to his home for training.

Vex Elli - USA - about as consistent as it comes. He may not win a single event, but he easily could win the gold medal.

S.F.L. Cat - USA - The guy refuses to say why he has 4 names and simply goes by letters on the first 3, but regardless...he's a good decathlete. He is not good in the middle events of either day so he needs to do well in events 1, 5, 6, and 10 if he hopes to win.

Jeff Nights - USA - Jeff is an up and down peformer. He could literally win 5 events, and come in last in 4 others. It's a dangerous mix, can he perform good enough in his 5 strong events to overcome his 4 weak ones?

I have gone back and looked at some scores that each competitor posted in other meets and I've come up with a high level best guess list of who should perform well and who should perform poorly in each event.


100 Meters
Strong: Lesgettham, Yellope, Mello, Babson, Kappe, Ivanov
Weak: Palmer, Mighty, Gonzalez, Gunner, Nights


Long Jump
Strong: Lesgettham, Mello, Babson, Kappe, Gunner
Weak: Palmer, Soldier, Cat


Shot Putt
Strong: Pflaggstettler, Gonzalez, Mello, Babson, Eckberg, Gunner, Nights
Weak: Yellope, Soldier, Cat


High Jump
Strong: Gonzalez, Gunner, Nights
Weak: Mello, Ivanov, Cat


400 Meters
Strong: Yellope, Ivanov, Soldier, Cat
Weak: Lesgettham, Mighty, Gonzalez, Babson, Kappe, Eckberg, Gunner, Nights


110 Meter Hurdles
Strong: Lesgettham, Babson, Kappe, Soldier, Elli, Cat
Weak: Pflaggstettler, Ivanov, Eckberg, Nights


Discus
Strong: Pflaggstettler, Nights
Weak: Yellope, Cat


Pole Vault
Strong: Nights
Weak: Mello, Cat


Javelin
Strong: Gunner, Nights
Weak: Soldier, Cat


1500 Meters
Strong: Yellope, Palmer, Soldier, Cat
Weak: Pflaggstettler, Lesgettham, Mighty, Gonzalez, Mello, Babson, Kappe, Eckberg, Gunner, Nights


Now that assessment is just high level and a number of things need to be taken into consideration, but at least if give you an idea of what to expect and who to watch in each event. I'll be explaining the events and rules to you shortly so stay tuned....[fade out audio]

Announcer voice: this event is brought to you by EA Sports - when it's in the game it's in the game. Mello Yellow - you can buzz like Marvin too, and Bullzeye Putters - even Babson can make the short ones with a bullzeye.

[fade to black - cut to commercial]

[Breeze]

RULES:

1st EVENT: 100 METER DASH
No interaction on your part.


2nd EVENT: LONG JUMP
You will get 3 attempts but before each attempt you must announce Aggressive, Normal, Conservative. You will get a score with a conservative attempt. Foul attempts increase as the aggressiveness increases, the chances of injuries also increase. Players may choose to pass an attempt if they are pleased with a previous jump. Passing avoids possible injury and will grant you energy later for the High Jump or 400 meters. 2 passes in the shot and long jump combine for 1 high jump attempt.


3rd EVENT: SHOT PUT
See: Long Jump


4th EVENT: HIGH JUMP
Competition opens at 6'. Each athlete must annouce if they will attempt or pass. The bar moves up 1" at a time (each athlete has a max height - which will be PMed to them prior to the start of the event). The player may continue to jump until they have 3 consecutive misses. The player will be credited with points for the last successfully cleared height.

This event is the one that affects fatigue. If the player attempts 7 or less there is no fatigue penalty in the 400. The rest of the penalties are as follows:

8 or 9 - +.2 seconds
10 or 11 - +.4 seconds
12 or 13 - +.6 seconds
14 or 15 - +.8 seconds
16 > - 1 second

(don't forget the additional attempt without fatigue penalty for every 2 shot putt and long jump attempts passed)


5th EVENT: 400 METER RUN
No interaction on your part.


6th EVENT: 110 METER HIGH HURDLES
No interaction on your part


7th EVENT: DISCUS
See: Long Jump


8th EVENT: POLE VAULT
See: High Jump

Fatigue penalties that affect the 1500:

7 or less - none
8,9,10 - level 1 fatigue
11,12,13 - level 2 fatigue
14 > - level 3 fatigue

(not a specific number, but references a result in the 1500 meter card)


9th EVENT: JAVELIN
See: Long Jump


10th EVENT: 1500 METER RUN
No interaction on your part.

[Breeze]

INJURY NOTES:

Day 1

100 Meters - injured in this event - +.3 seconds

Long Jump - injured in this event - use safe columns for all remaining jumps
- injured in earlier event - use safe column for all attempts

Shot Putt - see long jump

High Jump - No Effect
- No Effect

400 Meters - injured in this event - +1 second for this and each remaining 100 meters
- +4 seconds (+1 second for each 100 meters)


Day 2

110 Meter Hurdles - injured in this event - +.4 seconds
- injured in previous day - +.2 seconds

Discus - injured in this event - safe on all remaining attempts
- injured in earlier day 2 event - safe on all attempts
- injured in day 1 - can't use aggressive style

Pole Vault - no effect

Javelin - see Discus

1500 Meters - injured in this event or earlier in the day +10 seconds
- injured in day 1 - +.5 seconds

[albionmoonlight]

Cool. I'll be checking my PM box.

[Breeze]

EVENT 1 - 100 Meters

Since you have no interaction in this event - I'm going breakdown the cards a little more here.

Pflaggstettler - Received a good draw in the column creation - this B level performer has some low scores on high probability rolls - it would not surprise me if he got a score in the 10:55 range.

Lesgettham - his results are pretty much on par with an A level card, but he does have a very unsettling 10.60 result on one of the 2 most likely outcomes. He also has a blazing 10.15 on another highly probably roll.

Yellope - like Lesgettham has some poor rolls on high probability outcomes - 10.65 and 10.55. He does have quite a few results in the 10.3 range.

Palmer - for a C level check he has a pretty good card. He could get below an 11 second time, but if he rolls a 33 (high probability roll) he'll get tagged with an 11.6 (ouch).

Mighty - another C level guy, but 2 of the most common rolls are below 11 seconds. They are 2 of only about 8 that are below 11. If he rolls a 23 (decent chance of that) he'll get a 10.65 - and have hit the jackpot.

Gonzalez - everything is right around 11 seconds.

Mello - He flys - the two highest probability outcomes are both 10.35 and there are several others that are below 10.5. Anything over 10.5 and Mello had a horrible roll.

Babson - A 10.75 on the prime number is frieghting. Despite being an A performer he has quite a few rolls over a 10.5 I'd say poor luck when this column was created, but he can still roll in the 10.3's.

Kappe - A solid card in the most frequently rolled outcomes. 10.4's to 10.5's. A 21 will give him a 10.15 (but 21 is hard to roll).

Ivanov - 10.9 on the 34 roll. That's awful. The rest of the outcomes in the high probabily rolls are similar to Kappe.

Eckberg - this is an interesting card. He's a B level performer but he has a bunch of 11 second results in the high probability outcomes, which is terrible, but he also has 10.35 on a 36, which if rolled might win the event outright.

Soldier - solid B level card - Most results between 10.5 and 10.7

Gunner - Solid C level card. No strange results - should end up around 11 seconds.

Elli - this is a B card that looks an awful lot like a C. Too many results around 11 seconds

Cat - Another bad B level card. Cat has to hope for a 34 roll - which would give him a 10.5. Seven of the other results in the 30's are 10.8 or worse.

Nights - Here is a C performer who's card is arguably better than the 2 B cards listed just above him. IN fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see Nights outperforms both Cat and Elli.

[Travis]

Awesome stuff, definitely anxiously awaiting this.

[Breeze]

EVENT 1 - 100 Meters

This event will be divided into 2 heats:

Heat 1
Pflaggstettler
Lesgettham
Yellope
Palmer
Mighty
Gonzalez
Mello
Babson


Heat 2
Kappe
Ivanov
Eckberg
Soldier
Gunner
Elli
Cat
Nights


Prediction Heat 1

Mello wins the event, and possibly by a more than a tenth. Yellope finishes 2nd and Babson and Lesgettham battle for 3. Pflaggstettler probably is next with the remaining 3 finishing in any order.

Prediction Heat 2

Kappe and Ivanov should run away with this one and I think Kappe wins the heat. I like Eckberg to take 3rd in the heat with a bunching of the remaining 5.

[Breeze]

EVENT 1 - 100 Meters - Heat 1

The runners enter the starting blocks, the take their marks and the gun sounds. The runners explode out of their crouches and begin their sprint when the gun sounds again and again and again....FALSE START.

The False Start is charged to Palmer.

The runners go through the routine of getting set. The gun sounds and they are off. It's a clean start and as expect Mello jumps out quickly, Babson is right on his hip in lane 8, and Yellope and Lesgettham are keeping pace in lanes 2 and 3. Even less than half way down the track it is obvious the rest of the field isn't going to keep up. Palmer, got a horrible start, probably protecting against a second false start, and he actually trails the entire field by a wide margin.

As the runners head for the tape, there is the lean and...

Mello and Babson tie
Yellope is 3rd
Lesgettham is a half a step back in 4th
Pflaggstettler gets 5th
Gonzalez is 6
Mighty takes 7
and Palmer gets 8

[Breeze]

OFFICIAL TIMES - HEAT 1

The all important official times have been released.



Mello 10.35
Babson 10.35
Yellope 10.40
Lesgettham 10.50
Pflaggstettler 10.90
Gonzalez 11.00
Mighty 11.05
Palmer 11.60

[StanGunner]

good job..watching and reading..waiting for next one

[Breeze]

EVENT 1 - 100 Meters - Heat 2

The runners enter the blocks, they get set the gun sounds and they're off. A clean start and a bunching of the runners. They are so tight it's hard to tell who's actually leading. By the midway point things begin to take shape. Kappe is out in front followed by Ivanov. The rest are still tightly bunched, except for Nights who's a full step behind the second group of runners.

As Kappe is finishing Eckberg and Soldier begin to fall behind Gunner, Elli, and Cat.

The final order of finish is:

Kappe - 1st
Ivanov - 2nd
Elli, Gunner, and Cat right on Ivanov's heals for 3rd
Eckberg and Soldier
Nights brings up the rear

I'll have to wait on the official time, but I believe Kappe is just off the pace set by Babson and Mello, but Nights is well in front of Palmers time. In fact, I believe Nights broke 11 seconds.

[Breeze]

OFFICIAL TIMES - Heat 2




Kappe 10.40
Ivanov 10.55
Gunner 10.60
Elli 10.60
Cat 10.60
Eckberg 10.80
Soldier 10.80
Nights 10.95

[Breeze]

LEADERBOARD - After 1 Event



Mello 1011
Babson 1011
Yellope 999
Kappe 999
Lesgettham 975
Ivanov 963
Gunner 952
Elli 952
Cat 952
Eckberg 906
Soldier 906
Pflaggstettler 883
Nights 872
Gonzalez 861
Mighty 850
Palmer 732

[albionmoonlight]

Let's just call it off here. No need to even try the other events.

[JAG]

Sweet. I was a bit nervous reading Babson's chances...and thanks Breeze for the intro. Yours is much more interesting than I would've written. :)

[Breeze]

EVENT 1 - REVIEW


Mello did extremely well in this event, but he was expected to. Babson, though an A performer in the 100 was probably a bit lucky to get the results he did, but the biggest winner was Gunner. A C level performer and not a great one at that he managed to beat most of the B level players. Surprisingly, 2 B cards that I thought weren't good tied Gunner for 7th place in the event, Cat and Elli. Pflaggsettler was a card I thought was good for a B card, but boy he got a bad roll. Palmer also got the terrible 33 which posted the 11.60 and it puts him behind the 8 ball. After 1 event he alread finds himself 250 points back.

[Breeze]

EVENT 2 - Long Jump NOTE:

I will give you information about your player in the Long Jump before I'll need your announcement on how you expect to do your attempt (aggressive, normal, conservative), so you'll have an idea on what each type of attempt will give you.

I can PM this information if you'd rather keep it secret, or post it like I did for the 100 meters if you don't care about others knowing (I don't think it will really matter who knows before hand)

[albionmoonlight]

PMs might be best for stragety, but that would take you forever. I personally don't mind if you just post it here.

[Breeze]

EVENT 2 - Long Jump - Result Specifics

Chances of Occurance

Conservative
Fouls - 0%
Injuries - 0%

Normal
Fouls - 29.17%
Injuries - 2.31%

Aggressive
Fouls - 58.33%
Injuries - 4.63%

NOTE: Any roll that results in an injury also results in a foul.

[vex]

I say just post it here.

This is pretty cool. Nice work.

[Breeze]

EVENT 2 - Long Jump

I guess no one has any issues with me posting more specifics here - so I'll do that now.

Pflaggstettler
Conservative - can get over 23' here, which isn't bad for conservative, most probably outcomes are just over 22'.
Normal - 25' 6" is the high end and there are a couple other results of 25' or better. Could easily better 24' in this column.
Aggressive - 25' 9" is the best in the column, but it's also on the rarest possible roll. 25' 8" is also available, everything else is below 25', and most are below 24' - overall not a great aggressive column.

Lesgettham
Conservative - has results over 25' in this column. Including a very getable 24' 11" result on 24. However, the most common outcomes are 23' and 22' 11".
Normal - several results over 25', and two that reach 26' 2", anything under 24' would be a bad roll.
Aggressive - 26' 7" is the top end, a few others over 26' - including the 26' 6" outcome on 15.

Yellope
Conservative - 1 result over 24', most fall below 23'
Normal - a couple 25' 6" outcomes appear to the best in the column, a decent possibilty of hitting one of them. Most of the results are in the 24' range.
Aggressive - 25' 10" is the high, two other results over 25', quite a few short throws intersperced (22' range)

Palmer
Conservative - Nothing stands out - most results are in the 20' to 22' foot range.
Normal - again the results are quite bunched, but I dont' believe there is a result that reaches 24', most are in the upper 22' to lower 23' range.
Aggressive - a couple 24' results, a couple 23' results the rest are similar to the conservative column.

Mighty
Conservative - 24' 3" is the high, but it's no likely you'll hit it. Probably will roll around 21' 3"
Normal - A couple 25' 2" inch results, a couple high 24' ones as well.
Aggressive - 25' 10" result is the best - but it's on the impossible 19. A couple 25' 7" are in better spots. One 24' result, all the rest are less than 24'

Gonzalez
Conservative - 24' 7" is the high end, and a couple other 24' outcomes. All and all a pretty strong column
Normal - 25' 6" is the high, quite a few 24' 11" outcomes.
Aggressive - 3 results over 25' with the high on 25' 9".

Mello
Conservative - 25' 4" is the high, quite a few results over 24' , several in the 20' range as well.
Normal - couple rolls over 26', several over 25' - should get a result over 24' as long as it isn't a foul.
Aggressive - 5 results in the 26' 6" or 7" range. 1 25', a couple others in the 24', the rest are lower.

Babson
Conservative - 24' 4" high, a couple others over 24' and should get at least a 22' result in this column.
Normal - 26' 3" on the 19 (not likely), a 26' 1" result on 24 (not impossible). Most results are 24'.
Aggressive - 3 results of better than 26'. Couple other results over 25', the rest appear to be below 24' 6"

Kappe
Conservative - 24' 7" is the high, several others over 24' - very solid conservative column
Normal - 8 rolls over 25' - with 25' 10" as the high. WOW. :D
Aggressive - 2 results over 26', 1 in the 25' range - the rest is widely spread.

Ivanov
Conservative - Nothing stands out - almost everything falls between 20' 6" and 23' 3".
Normal - 3 results over 25' and several over 24'
Aggressive - 2 results over 25' with 25' 4" as the highest possible outcome.

Eckberg
Conservative - not much spread - 1 results in 24' range.
Normal - a couple of 25' results, but most likely the roll will be at the 24' level.
Aggressive - 3 - 25' possibilities. Most of the other outcomes are in the 23' range.


Soldier - I have to appologize - I actually mislabeled your results
Conservative - only 1 result in the 24' range, the rest appear evenly split between 20' - 23'
Normal - a couple 25' on difficult rolls, several 24' most in the 23' range
Aggressive - see Normal.


Gunner - here are your stats, previously labeled as Soldiers.
Conservative - bunched results - probably will end up with a roll in the low 23's
Normal - 12 - 25' results - IMPRESSIVE. :eek:
Aggressive - 1 - 26' result, 2 - 25 footers. As impressive as the normal column is the aggressive is unimpressive.

Elli
Conservative - 24' 4" result on 34 is nice, outside of that a rather poor column.
Normal - A couple 25' results including the 25' 6" result on 24.
Aggressive - 5 results over 25'.

Cat
Conservative - might not even get 20' in this column
Normal - nothing reaches 24' (ugh)
Aggressive - 1 result in the 24' range (AWFUL)

Nights
Conservative - nothing reaches 24', quite a few over 23'
Normal - 4 over 25', several over 24'
Aggressive - 5 over 25' low ends appear to be in the 23' range.

[Breeze]

EVENT 2 - LONG JUMP

Now I'll need each player to announce their style of jump before we can continue. If you want to announce it through PM feel free. If you have any questions or need more specifics, PM me or post it here.

[albionmoonlight]

Mello is going aggressive on Jump #1. There's nothing mellow about it.

[JeeberD]

Normal, por favor...

[Travis]

Normal for Darius please

[SirFozzie]

Normal on Jump 1, if I foul, go conservative on jump 2. If I get a result I'll wait and see what my result is on Jump1 before deciding on Jump 2

[Breeze]

I've got jump styles for

Lesgettham
Yellope
Mello
Ivanov
Eckberg
Elli

Waiting on the 10 others...get your info in.

[Breeze]

Quick Note: to keep the game moving, if I don't get "styles" for everyone within 24 hours (we can change that number if enough people want it shorter or longer), I will make you jump in Conservative for round 1, Normal for round 2 and Aggressive for round 3.

The only exception to this will be if you don't have a good score recorded and you miss getting your style in for that round. In that case you will be forced to use the Conservative chart to assure a score in the event.

[JAG]

Babson - Normal, with his fingers crossed.

[thealmighty]

normal

[StanGunner]

You left me off the list of specifics.

[ntndeacon]

Palmer--Aggressive for jump 1

[kingfc22]

Gonzalez:

Normal jump 1, if miss
conservative 2, if miss
conservative 3

Normal jump 1, if clear
aggressive 2

anything else I'll wait and see

[JeffNights]

Nights will go normal for jump #1
Then agressive on #2 if needed
then Conservative on #3 if a score hasnt been made yet.

[Chas in Cinti]

Pflagstetter: Normal on Jump #1, Jump #2, and Jump #3 (unless 2 fouls, then conservative)

Regards,
Chas

[Breeze]

EVENT 2 - LONG JUMP - Status Report


I have gotten results from:

Pflaggstettler
Lesgettham
Yellope
Palmer
Mighty
Gonzalez
Mello
Babson
Ivanov
Eckberg
Elli
Nights


I need results from:
Kappe
Soldier
Gunner
Cat


**Couple of notes. I screwed up Gunner's and Soldier's explanations. I actually labelled Soldier incorrectly and inadvertantly left Gunner off the list. Gunner did respond within the 24 hour period noted above so I'll give him a chance to decide which style he would like to use (like that takes any thought). Soldier had an explanation listed (even though the information was inaccurate), and he didn't respond within the allotted time - therefore I'm going to proceed with the ruling of Conservative attempts in round 1 for Soldier (unless there are objections) - there is 1 caveat - I'll hold off on posting for a couple of hours to give the 4 still lacking a style preference a chance to see this post.

[Breeze]

EVENT 2 - LONG JUMP - FIRST ATTEMPT


Pflaggstettler - he flys down the runway, hits the board and launches himself. The final measurement is - 24' 11" (only a couple results better in the column)

Lesgettham - heads down the runway, but has to look down and chopstep to hit the board, costing him speed and ultimately distance - final result a disappointing - 21' 7" (the worst possible outcome in the column)

Yellope - get a nice first attempt in, when he hits the pit it appears he's close to Pflaggstettlers jump, but then I realize he's a bit short of that - 24' 2"

Palmer - after his poor 100 Deacon is looking to get back in it, but his over-aggressive attempt results in a foul.

Mighty - his toe is just past the launching board and he ends up with a foul.

Gonzalez - the man known to jump creeks in an effort to enter the US, gets a nice 23' 4" number to work off of.

Mello - he flys down the runway, but looks down to hit the board, resulting in a 22' 5" distance. Disappointing but atleast he has a score with 2 jumps to go. (terrible roll, only a couple of successful outcomes that are shorter in the column)

Babson - he hits the board and flys into the pit, it's a nice jump, but when he turns around he sees the white flag raised - foul. I think he might have gotten the jump in if he hadn't tried to do it with his fingers crossed. :p

Ivanov - the Russian is clearly over the board when he plants, and he realizes he's fouled so he almost walks out of the attempt.

Eckberg - a solid 23' 10" first jump.

Elli - Foul

Nights - 22' 2" result is very disappointing (there is only 1 successful roll in the column worse than this one)

[Breeze]

ok - time's up

EVENT 2 - LONG JUMP - continued

Kappe - Kappe gets a nice 23' 10" results on the first attempt (really a good result in the conservative column)

Soldier - hits the board and has a good jump, but he was pretty conservative coming down the runway - 20' 2"

Gunner - a big jump out by the 25' mark. The final measurement is 24' 11" (good jump, but he has serveral that are better in the column)

Cat - this isn't a good event for Cat and he measures his first jump at 19' 3". He'll need to do much better than that.

[StanGunner]

I will go normal on first two jumps. If no mark go conservative on 3rd , if mark then go aggressive on 3rd.

[Breeze]

EVENT 2 - LONG JUMP - First Jump review

LEADERBOARD

Pflaggstettler - 24' 11"
Gunner - 24' 11"
Yellope - 24' 2"
Kappe - 23' 10"
Eckberg - 23' 10"
Gonzalez - 23' 4"
Mello - 22' 5"
Nights - 22' 2"
Lesgettham - 21' 7"
Soldier - 20' 2"
Cat - 19' 3"
Ivanov - X
Elli - X
Palmer - X
Mighty - X
Babson - X


Some very interesting decisions coming up (and I will allow anyone to change instructions previously sent in).

Gunner - has a nice number - but several better results in the Normal column

Pflaggstettler - has one of the best numbers he can get in the normal column, does he try to better it in Normal, go Aggressive or just pack it in and rest for the remaining events.

Yellope - pretty good score - where does he go from here - Aggressive or does he go for a better score in Normal.

Gonzalez & Eckberg - see Yellope

But the most interesting decissions will come from those that don't have a score recorded - do they gamble and go Normal again, or bite the bullet and go conservative to assure themselves of a score.

**remember if you pass out your remaining attempts you will be credited an additional high jump attempt without fatigue penalty.

[Breeze]

EVENT 2 - LONG JUMP - Second Attempt

Post styles for jump 2...(this time you'll have till Monday morning, but if we get results in early - I'll proceed).

***if you don't get a style in by Monday morning...
- if you don't have a current score I will go Conservative,
- if you have a score I will go Normal
- if you posted more than 1 attempt in your previous style post, I'll use what was entered.

[JeeberD]

Lets go Aggressive this round...

[Travis]

I'll go normal for this round.

[SirFozzie]

I'm going to go Normal again

[vex]

Normal for Elli.

[Breeze]

EVENT 2 - LONG JUMP - Status Update

Nice Job getting results in: Assuming the original posts by Pflaggstettler, Gonzalez, and Nights (where they detail multiple jumps) still hold (and they are welcome to make changes if they want to post something before the results are made public) I have styles for:

Pflaggstettler
Lesgettham
Yellope
Gonzalez
Babson
Ivanov
Eckberg
Gunner
Elli
Nights

Still waiting on:

Kappe
Soldier
Cat
Palmer
Mighty
Mello

[Chas in Cinti]

Pflaggstettler will stay with Normal on the next 2 jumps...

-Chas

[thealmighty]

normal again

[SFL Cat]

Got nothing to lose...let's go aggressive

[kingfc22]

Going to go normal with jump 2

[ntndeacon]

palmer goes conservative in jump 2

[albionmoonlight]

Mello goes aggressive again for #2.

[albionmoonlight]

dola--

question. If I pass once in the long jump and once in the shot put, does that mean that I get an extra high jump? Or do both passes need to be in the same event?

[Breeze]

EVENT 2 - LONG JUMP - Second Attempt

Pflaggstettler - he sprints down the runway, hits the board and launches himself into the pit. He lands right about the same spot as his last attempt. The final measurement puts him at 24' 7" - 4" short of jump 1.

Lesgettham - toe is over the jump board - foul.

Yellope - his second jump is in about the same spot as his first. The tape is pulled and he actually gained a couple inches. 24' 4"

Palmer - coming off a foul, Palmer was obviously going to make sure to get a score. The conservative attempt resulted in a 22' 3" distance. (note: that appears to be as good as he can do in the conservative column)

Mighty - also coming off a foul, Might elects to roll the dice and go for a decent jump, and it pays off 24' 6".

Gonzalez - he had a decent first jump, the second one appears to be better at take off, and in fact it is - almost exactly a foot better. 24' 3".

Mello - had a poor first jump, and the second one won't improve anything, because he fouls.

Babson - coming off a foul, Babson needs to get a good score, he runs down the track, hits the board, jumps in the air, and SCREAMS IN PAIN. He lands in a heap in the sand. After a few moments to gather himself, he limps out of the pit and heads to the training room with his hand on his right hamstring. To make matters worse the white foul flag is raised.

Kappe - definately has better form on his second attempt - he reaches 25' 2".

Ivanov - needs to get a good jump in after a foul on jump 1. He jumps a little in front of the board to assure he doesn't foul, but he still gets a 23' 11" distance.

Eckberg - 22' 11" - shorter than jump 1 by about a foot.

Gunner - Foul

Elli - Foul - that makes 2 for Elli - 1 jump left to record a score.

Cat - Fouls so he still stuck with a 19' 3" effort

Nights - the jump is obviously better from the start - he sails past the 22' mark, where is initial jump measured and he comes down 25' 6".

[SirFozzie]

Pass.

[albionmoonlight]

Mello goes normal for #3

[JeeberD]

Lets try Aggressive one more time...

[Breeze]

EVENT 2 - LONG JUMP - Current Standings



Nights 25' 6"
Kappe 25' 2"
Pflaggstettler 24' 11"
Gunner 24' 11"
Mighty 24' 6"
Yellope 24' 4"
Gonzalez 24' 3"
Ivanov 23' 11"
Eckberg 23' 10"
Mello 22' 5"
Palmer 22' 3"
Soldier 22' 2"
Lesgettham 21' 7"
Cat 19' 3"
Elli X
Babson X (injured)

[Breeze]

EVENT 2 - LONG JUMP - Status Report

I have 4 players styles for jump 3 entered. Tomorrow around 10 a.m. I'll be conducting the final jump, unless styles are entered early (if they are I'll post them early).

[Travis]

Normal again for Darius, with fingers crossed

[StanGunner]

Change to normal for 3rd.

[PilotMan]

Ivonov is happy with the jump, but believes he can do better.

He will go normal for his final jump.

[SirFozzie]

BTW, recheck your standings, I'm at 24'4".. 2nd jump not 24'2",

and seeing the standings.. let's go agressive for jump 3 ;)

[Breeze]

BTW, recheck your standings, I'm at 24'4".. 2nd jump not 24'2",

and seeing the standings.. let's go agressive for jump 3 ;)


FIXED - sorry 'bout that.

[vex]

Man, I can't believe that. Went normal both times, fouled both times. Elli will go conservative, I suppose.

[kingfc22]

Normal

[thealmighty]

pass

[JeffNights]

Nights will no doubt pass on his final attempt.

[Breeze]

EVENT 2 - LONG JUMP - Third Attempt

Pflaggstettler - fouls on the 3rd attempt

Lesgettham - sitting on a poor distance of 21' 7" - Darius needs a good 3rd attempt. His approach and take off look good and the result is clearly better than 21'. The final measurement is 25' 4". That's a clutch attempt - moving him from the bottom of the event standings to the top section.

Yellope - foul

Palmer - works hard on teh 3rd attempt, but he can't better a pretty poor 22' 3" effort. 3rd jump = 21' 6"

Mighty - Passes (1 passed attempt in shot putt earns an extra high jump attempt without fatigue)

Gonzalez - his 3rd attempt is good, it appears to be better than the 2nd one, which was pretty good too. The distance is 24' 11". (King - good thing you decided to go back to normal - aggressive would have resulted in an injury)

Mello - one of the best long jumpers in the event, he's currently sitting on a pathetic 22' 5" distance. His 3rd and final attempt is also a foul.

Babson - the injury and the fact the he doesn't currently have a good jump forces Brian to be ultra-conservative on the final attempt. Under the circumstances a 23' 1" result is pretty good.

Kappe - a good jump, but not better than the second attempt - 24' 6"

Ivanov - fouls

Eckberg - fouls

Soldier - trying to better 22' 2", Soldier hits the board flies into the pit and comes out with a limp. Apparently he turned an ankle or knee on the landing. Attempt is a foul.

Gunner - Successful jump, but it's clearly shorter than his 24' 11" first attempt. They were obligated to measure the attempt and it was 23' 11"

Elli - needs a good score to get points in the event - settles for 22' 3"

Cat - fouls and has to settle for 19' 3"

Nights - Pass (see Mighty)

[Travis]

Wow, thank goodness for that last jump. That was nearly some serious sucktitude.

[Breeze]

EVENT 2 - LONG JUMP - Final Standings



Nights 25' 6"
Lesgettham 25' 4"
Kappe 25' 2"
Pflaggstettler 24' 11"
Gunner 24' 11"
Gonzalez 24' 11"
Mighty 24' 6"
Yellope 24' 4"
Ivanov 23' 11"
Eckberg 23' 10"
Babson 23' 1" (injured)
Mello 22' 5"
Palmer 22' 3"
Elli 22' 3"
Soldier 22' 2" (injured)
Cat 19' 3"

[Breeze]

EVENT 2 - LONG JUMP - Event Points



Nights 1010
Lesgettham 997
Kappe 985
Pflaggstettler 965
Gunner 965
Gonzalez 965
Mighty 932
Yellope 920
Ivanov 891
Eckberg 883
Babson 828
Mello 781
Palmer 769
Elli 769
Soldier 762
Cat 563

[Breeze]

EVENT 2 - LONG JUMP - Review

To start with the big winner here was Jeff Nights. A B level card that wins the event is a huge jump. The 25' 6" result was outstanding - in fact the best he could have done was a 25' 8" distance.

The losers here were numerous - the biggest was Babson. An A level card that finishes at the bottom of the event hurts, then adding an injury on top of that is a killer. Soldier is also injured, which doesn't bode well for his overall chances, but he wasn't expected to perform well in this event. Mello is another A level card that finished at the bottom of the event - a very disappointing effort. I'll also add in anyone who failed to get to 900 points in this event - too many players reached at least 900 points - if an athlete didn't they lost a considerable amount of ground to the field. Cat's results was about as bad as I've ever seen, in fact, the worst result possible on Cat's card was a 19' 2" distance.

[Breeze]

LEADERBOARD - AFTER 2 EVENTS



Kappe 1984
Lesgettham 1972
Yellope 1919
Gunner 1917
Nights 1882
Ivanov 1854
Pflaggstettler 1848
Babson 1839
Gonzalez 1826
Mello 1792
Eckberg 1789
Mighty 1782
Elli 1721
Soldier 1668
Cat 1515
Palmer 1501

[PilotMan]

Well that was more dissapointing than I had wanted. Let's hope we can do better in the shot put. I lost a lot of ground, but still being in 6th place overall isn't that bad.

[JeeberD]

Meh, I suck.

[Breeze]

EVENT 3 - Shot Put - Result Specifics

Chances of Occurance

Conservative
Fouls - 0%
Injuries - 0%

Normal
Fouls - 23.61%
Injuries - 2.31%

Aggressive
Fouls - 47.22%
Injuries - 4.63%

NOTE: Any roll that results in an injury also results in a foul.

[SirFozzie]

Agressive to start.

[Chas in Cinti]

I will await the event preview to make PFlaggstettler's choice...

:)

-Chas

[Breeze]

I will await the event preview to make PFlaggstettler's choice...

:)

-Chas



working on it now. ;)

[Breeze]

EVENT 3 - SHOT PUT - Preview


Pflaggstettler
Conservative - can make throws of over 55' in this column - ARE YOU KIDDING ME. Not to mention over 50' results are sitting on high probability rolls like 23, 24, 25, 26, 32, 33, 35. Best in column appears to be 55' 7"
Normal - can get over 57' in this column. only a couple rolls under 52'
Aggressive - as good as the first two column are - this one is forgettable - top throw 56' 10"

Lesgettham
Conservative - only 1 result over 50' and it's on almost impossible to throw 11. Most common outcome will be around 44'
Normal - much better column - with most results over 50'. Highest result appears to be around 54' but on difficult numbers to roll.
Aggressive - 54' 11" looks like a personal best. about a 50-50 split between upper 40s and 50s results

Yellope
Conservative - a weak event for Yellop - this column can't get to 50', in fact, 48' 10" appears to be the max
Normal - 1 shot at 50'. Most results are around mid 40s.
Aggressive - 4 potential 50' results with 52' 5" being the best.

Palmer
Conservative - Wow - a really weak column - 47' 10" is the best
Normal - This a good column - most results are over 50'. 55' 4" looks like the high end and it's on an attainable roll of 23.
Aggressive - a couple results in the 56' range a few more in the low 30s the rest are in the 40s.

Mighty
Conservative - a couple results over 50' including the 50' 0" result on the most common roll of 35.
Normal - a majority of rolls are in the 50' range with the top end being 55' 6". Almost all others are below 52'
Aggressive - nothing that is better than 52' 7"

Gonzalez
Conservative - 33 and 34 rolls will be better than 50' . The column goes as high as 54'
Normal - I only see 1 result below 50'. Can go up to 57'. Several results over 54'.
Aggressive - 58' 4" on 27, 58' 3" on 20, 3 additional results of 55' and half feet or better - the rest of the column is similar or below the normal one.

Mello
Conservative - a few results of better than 50'
Normal - most results are over 50' quite a few in the mid 50's. 56' 9" is the high.
Aggressive - 58' 5" is the best - another result of over 58' is available, but so are 5 results of under 50'

Babson
Conservative - has to thank goodness he's strong in this event - could better 50' which will keep him in contention. A roll of 27 would give him a 55' 6" result.
Normal - NA
Aggressive - NA

Kappe
Conservative - nothing overly impressive -most likely result is in the 47' range.
Normal - A little more than half are 50' or better including a 6 that are better than 53' 6"
Aggressive - weak aggressive column - 53' 8" result is the best in this column

Ivanov
Conservative - only 1 result over 50', probably will be in the 48' range if he rolls this column
Normal - most rolls in the 50s. One in the 40s would be a disappointing outcome. High end = 55' 2"
Aggressive - 54' 11" is the high roll on an attainable 23. Other results are split between 52's area and in the 40s

Eckberg
Conservative - not a good column for someone strong in this event, to many results in the 40s
Normal - The one makes up for it some - not only are most results over 50' - most are over 53'
Aggressive - 3 rolls worth having in this column 24, 17, 18 - the rest aren't as good as the normal column. 24 is attainable, 17 and 18 are very difficult rolls.

Soldier
Conservative - this is going to be ugly - best he can do is a 48' 10"
Normal - NA
Aggressive - NA

Gunner - .
Conservative - 48' range is a probable outcome
Normal - Another impressive normal column for Gunner. 15 results are better than 54'. High = 56' 10" (on 18)
Aggressive - 56' 10" is again the high. a few more in the 55' range.

Elli
Conservative - 47' range is the likely outcome.
Normal - 55' 6" is the high, but it's on a difficult number. Probable outcome on a good roll will be in the 52' range.
Aggressive - 54' 9" is the best. Too many 40' results for my liking.

Cat
Conservative - can't reach 50' at all, but does have some 30' results in high probably rolls
Normal - Hope for a roll of 23 - 51' 7" - one of two in the column and the best possible outcome.
Aggressive - 52' 4" is his best roll.

Nights
Conservative - serveral rolls over 55'
Normal - everything appears to be over 50' including most over the 54' range. 56' 11" is the best.
Aggressive - most results are over 50', but they are in the low 50's not real high outcomes here. 55' 6" appears to be the best.

[Breeze]

EVENT 3 - SHOT PUT

Start posting your requested style for throw 1. I will begin posting results tomorrow morning around 10. If you have any questions about the preview I posted ask here or PM me.

[vex]

Normal for Elli.

EDIT: Did you switch my normal and aggressive?

[Travis]

Darius will go normal for the first 2 throws unless I max out on the first throw in which case I'll probably sit out the last pair of throws.

[Chas in Cinti]

Pflaggstettler will go Normal on First, Normal on Second... Will check in before 3rd... Me thinks I need to get into Medal Contention with THIS event.... :)

-Chas

[albionmoonlight]

Mello will go Normal for #1. If he gets over 55', then he will pass the last two.

If he does not get over 55' in #1, then he would like to go Normal for #2 and Conservative for #3.

[ntndeacon]

Palmer will go Normal for the first 2 throws.

[JeeberD]

Normal.

[Breeze]

Aggressive for Elli.

EDIT: Did you switch my normal and aggressive?


Nope, your card has a much better probability of a roll in the 50s for normal than aggressive. In addition, your aggressive high end roll isn't significantly better than the rolls in the normal column.

[Chas in Cinti]

Just a quick note of thanks... I'm enjoying this immensely...

Regards,
Chas

[PilotMan]

Ivonov will go normal for the first throw.

[JeffNights]

Nights will be normal for rounds one and two.

[vex]

Nope, your card has a much better probability of a roll in the 50s for normal than aggressive. In addition, your aggressive high end roll isn't significantly better than the rolls in the normal column.
Thanks, in that case, I'll go normal.

[vex]

Just a quick note of thanks... I'm enjoying this immensely...

Regards,
Chas
I agree, this is a lot of fun, even if I do suck :D

[kingfc22]

Phew. I couldn't make up my mind on my 3rd jump and I'm glad my choice paid off.

I'll go normal on throw #1.

[thealmighty]

normal

[Breeze]

vex, chas - glad you're enjoying it.

1st shot put attempt will be around 10 a.m.

I have styles for:

- Pflaggstettler
- Lesgettham
- Yellope
- Palmer
- Mighty
- Gonzalez
- Mello
- Babson
- Ivanov
- Eckberg
- Soldier
- Elli
- Nights

Haven't sent in a style

- Kappe
- Gunner
- Cat

If you notice I missed one of the above please let me know if I miss one of these.

If I don't get styles in - the conservative column will be used.

[Breeze]

OK I'm angry - I entered results then hit post reply only to find out my login had been lost - so now my write up's been lost.

***RRRRRRR...

end rant

[Breeze]

EVENT 3 - SHOT PUT - THROW 1


Pflaggstettler - foul

Lesgettham - a big first attempt 52' 8" (5 better results in normal 1 in aggressive)

Yellope - his first effort nearly matches Darius' - 52' 5". An excellent attempt for a guy that isn't good in this event. (you have maxed out - there are no results better than this on the card)

Palmer - his rough meet continues as he fouls the first attempt.

Mighty - 51' 10" - is a great effort from Mighty - who doesn't blow away the score board in this event (3 results better in normal 1 in aggressive)

Gonzalez - 50' 1" is a pretty poor attempt from a very good put thrower.

Mello - an EXPLOSIVE effort from Mello, the put thuds into the earth 54' 5" away. (really good but there are still several better outcomes in both the normal and aggressive columns)

Babson - keeps pace with the first few decathletes that threw earlier - 52' 7" real good considering the injury.

Kappe - a terrible first attempt 45' 5".

Ivanov - 51' 1" not close to his best effort, but a nice number to work off of.

Eckberg - launches his first attempt - 53' 7" (several better results still on the card)

Soldier - the injury is really hampering Kem in an event that he doesn't excel -47' 9"

Gunner - the put appears to slip a little in Stan's hand. The result is an absolute waste. He's actually embarassed by this result - 44' 6". He's actually one of the events best so expect a better effort in throw 2.

Elli - 48' 10" - not a good effort

Cat - terrible 42' 11" distance. Cat's not good in this event - but he can do better than he did in this throw.

Nights - an ok 51' 4" toss. It gives him a solid score that he can improve on with the other 2 throws.

[albionmoonlight]

Seeing as Mello has to make up ground from the horrid long jump, he will now go AGGRESSIVE on throws 2 and 3 (unless he hits the max in throw 2, in which case he will stop so as to avoid injury).

[Travis]

Darius will go normal on the next two throws (unless he hits a max).

[Breeze]

EVENT 3 - SHOT PUT - Current Standings



Mello 54' 5"
Eckberg 53' 7"
Lesgettham 52' 8"
Babson 52' 7"
Yellope 52' 5"
Mighty 51' 10"
Nights 51' 4"
Ivanov 51' 1"
Gonzalez 50' 1"
Elli 48' 10"
Soldier 47' 9"
Kappe 45' 5"
Gunner 44' 6"
Cat 42' 11"
Pflaggstettler X
Palmer X

[Breeze]

Get throw 2 styles in - results will be posted around 10 am

[Chas in Cinti]

ERRRR... Normal Please for Flaggstettler...

-Chas

[kingfc22]

I blame the wind.

Go normal again. I can not lose ground on one of my strong events.

[JeeberD]

Finally, an event I'm good in.

Let's go aggressive here...

[PilotMan]

normal again

[ntndeacon]

Palmer will stick with going normal for jump 2

[vex]

Normal for Elli.

[thealmighty]

normal for second then pass for third...no matter what

[Breeze]

EVENT 3 - SHOT PUT - 2nd Throw Style Status Update

I have styles entered for:

Pflaggstettler
Lesgettham
Palmer
Gonzalez
Mello
Babson
Ivanov
Eckberg
Soldier
Gonzalez
Elli
Nights
Mighty

Missing Styles for:

Gunner
Kappe
Cat

(Kappe and Cat haven't sent in styles in quite a while, but Gunner has been pretty good about getting his styles in - hopefully he'll send it in before 10).

Other:
Yellope is finished - having maxed out

If anyone sees that I've missed a style let me know.

[Breeze]

EVENT 3 - SHOT PUT - Throw 2

Pflaggstettler - crouch, turn, explode, launch - a huge throw - the judges back up to allow the shot to land - 57' 2" (you have maxed out on this event)

Lesgettham - clips the toe board - Foul

Yellope - Passes

Palmer - poor Deacon, his luck just isn't getting any better. He over rotates and clips the board - foul. Now he faces a situation where he only has 1 throw remaining to get a acore in this event.

Mighty - a good throw, but it doesn't better his first attempt - 51' 1"

Gonzalez - his second attempts looks almost identical to the throw Mighty executed just a minute before. The measurement places it at 51' 4" - a decent improvement over throw 1.

Mello - after his good first attempt, Marvin is free to go after his second. The toss is well executed and the put lands 55' 9" (I count 4 results better in the normal column and 2 in the aggressive)

Babson - decides to take a wait and see attitude on this event. his 52' 7" result in throw 1 has him in decent standing under the injury circumstances. He would prefer to rest the injury - but if there are too many really good throws he may be forced to give it one more try on his third attempt - Pass

Kappe - Fouls - still sitting on a poor 45' 5" effort.

Ivanov - His second attempt appears to be almost 2' better. The actual measurement is 52' 10".

Eckberg - Fouls

Soldier - 44' 4" - not better than the 1st attempt

Gunner - Fouls - still sitting on the poor 44' 6" effort.

Elli - fouls - still at 48' 10"

Cat - a big effort from a poor put-er. It looks like it might be 10' further than the first attempt. Official measurement is 51' 7". (can't better this in the normal column, there are 3 better in the aggressive)

Nights - 49' 11" - not as good as throw 1.

[albionmoonlight]

Mello will go normal for throw #3

[Breeze]

EVENT 3 - SHOT PUT - Current Standings



Pflaggstettler 57' 2"
Mello 55' 9"
Eckberg 53' 7"
Ivanov 52' 10"
Lesgettham 52' 8"
Babson 52' 7"
Yellope 52' 5"
Mighty 51' 10"
Cat 51' 7"
Nights 51' 4"
Gonzalez 51' 4"
Elli 48' 10"
Soldier 47' 9"
Kappe 45' 5"
Gunner 44' 6"
Palmer X

[ntndeacon]

Dadgum! Cant a man get a break! Palmer will go normal for the third jump too. Might as well. Since we ae in last!

[JeeberD]

Normal

[PilotMan]

Whoo Hoo! Sitting in 4th with one throw to go in an even where I am not a strong contender! I will go normal for the final throw.

[StanGunner]

normal please

[StanGunner]

Could we see our characteristics for all events so we could post our intents early? I can't always get on here every day.

[Breeze]

Stan,

Can you clarify? Are you asking for me to breakdown your player for all event like I've done before the start of each? Or are you asking to know which table you character hit on each event? Or is it something else?

By the way - I don't have a problem with you sending in detailed instructions for each attempt. So if you want to state:

Throw 1 - normal
Throw 2 - if foul on 1 - normal, if 1st is < 50 then normal, else aggressive
etc.

I'll try to accomodate you as best I can.

[vex]

Normal for Elli.

[Breeze]

Guys, I'm taking tomorrow off - so it will be Monday before we finish this event.

Have a nice weekend all.

[JeffNights]

Nights will be agressive for round three.

[kingfc22]

2 sub-par throws.

I have to go aggressive.

[Breeze]

Sorry guys - I've got a couple reports I have to generate before 2. I'll try to get 3rd throw results up a little later.

[Chas in Cinti]

Pflagstettler will pass throw 3.

-Chas

[Breeze]

EVENT 3 - SHOT PUT - Throw 3

Pflaggstettler - after his impressive second toss, Pflaggstettler passes.

Lesgettham - tries one more time to better his first attempt - this one is a clean throw, but it appears short of the 52' 8" initial effort. The final measurement confirms my suspecions - 52' 0".

Yellope - was in the shade, with his shoes off, drinking something with an unbrella in it, and enjoying the competition. - Pass

Palmer - despiritly needs a good throw and a safe one. With 2 fouls headed into this toss, plus 2 poor performances on the previous events, Palmer really needs a good result. The toss is safe, no white flag is raised. The result however, isn't overly impressiv. - 46' 9"

Mighty - passes

Gonzalez - clips the toeboard - foul

Mello - gets a safe throw - but it's significantly shorter than the other two - in fact so short - he trys to wave off the measurement - 48' 11"

Babson - passes so he can continue receiving treatment on his injury.

Kappe - can't improve on the 45' 5" first throw when he fouls on his last attempt.

Ivanov - 52' 0" - doesn't improve on the 2nd attempt.

Eckberg - gets a nice 53' effort, but he 7" shorter than the 1st toss.

Soldier - only 44' 6".

Gunner - sitting on a real poor 44' 6" effort - Stan needs a good toss to stay around the top of the leaderboard. He spits, explodes and launches the put, and he's got the throw he needed. It lands and the tape says 56' 0". A clutch toss by Gunner.

Elli - Fouls again.

Cat - a good throw of 49' 9", but it's almost 2' shorter than his last toss.

Nights - a good throw that will be close in distance to his first. The tape is stretched out and it comes to 51' 7" a slight improvement.

[vex]

I am like the master fouler, I swear. In the two events, out of 6 attempts, I've fouled 4 times.

[Breeze]

EVENT 3 - SHOT PUT - Final Results



Pflaggstettler 57' 2"
Gunner 56' 0"
Mello 55' 9"
Eckberg 53' 7"
Ivanov 52' 10"
Lesgettham 52' 8"
Babson 52' 7"
Yellope 52' 5"
Mighty 51' 10"
Cat 51' 7"
Nights 51' 7"
Gonzalez 51' 4"
Elli 48' 10"
Soldier 47' 9"
Palmer 46' 9"
Kappe 45' 5"

[Breeze]

EVENT 3 - SHOT PUT - Event Points



Pflaggstettler 940
Gunner 918
Mello 913
Eckberg 883
Ivanov 858
Lesgettham 855
Babson 854
Yellope 851
Mighty 840
Cat 835
Nights 835
Gonzalez 830
Elli 783
Soldier 763
Palmer 744
Kappe 719

[Breeze]

EVENT 3 - SHOT PUT - REVIEW

Big winners in this event are actually a surprise. Yellope a C level column was able to keep pace with most of the field in a weak event, moreover, he was able to do it in just 1 throw so he actually will receive an extra high jump attempt without fatigue penalty. Babson, being injured was actually lucky to get as good as result as he got in just 1 throw as well. Obviously Pflaggstettler did well and so did Gunner, but they are both A columners and were expected to do well.

There were more poor results than good ones in this event. Gonzalez is an A level performer that finished in the bottom third. Nights is another A level performer and he barely did better than Gonzalez. Anyone that didn't reach at least 48' did poorly in this event, and fell back. Kappe may be the biggest disappointment. He is a B column shot put-er and he finished so poorly that not only did he lose the overall lead - he plummetted in the standings.

[kingfc22]

Well that sucked. My power guy did bad in a power event and I used up a third throw which will cost me later. :(

[SirFozzie]

Nice. Gotta stay with the leaders, the 400/1500 are my best shots here.

[PilotMan]

You know, 5th place should have been good, but the throws at the top were so strong it was more like finishing in the middle of the pack. I will be interested to see the overall standings and see how much ground I need to make up. This next event will be critical.

[Breeze]

You know, 5th place should have been good, but the throws at the top were so strong it was more like finishing in the middle of the pack. I will be interested to see the overall standings and see how much ground I need to make up. This next event will be critical.


Sorry, was hoping to get that posted yesterday, but got called into a couple really important meetings (on the same subject)...in which we determined we didn't have enough information to take action yet - therefore the 2 hours of meetings were a waste of time :rolleyes:

[Breeze]

LEADERBOARD - After 3 events



Gunner 2835
Lesgettham 2827
Pflaggstettler 2788
Yellope 2770
Nights 2717
Ivanov 2712
Mello 2705
Kappe 2703
Babson 2693
Eckberg 2661
Gonzalez 2656
Mighty 2622
Elli 2504
Soldier 2431
Cat 2350
Palmer 2245

[Breeze]

EVENT 4 - HIGH JUMP - Results Specific

The High Jump event is played differently than the 2 previous events. The player will need to announce their intentions before each height. I will in the event preview let you know what your maximum and minimum heights are (so you should have an idea where to start your jumping).

As for "NG" results (no good) and injuries - it varies by competitor and would be difficult to breakdown quickly. Since you have no control over the percentages and you don't get to specify (conservative, normal or aggressive) I wasn't planning to break it down.

Let me know if you have any questions - I'll try to get the preview up later this morning.

[Breeze]

EVENT 4 - HIGH JUMP - Quick Note

I think I might need to explain how this event works - so you'll understand the write-ups and be able to intelligently determine where and when to jump.

The high jump column lists a height in each row. If you announce you are going to jump and the number in row that corresponds to your roll is equal to or better than the height attempted the jump is successful. If the height is lower then the jump is missed.

Therefore, is you announce you are attempting a jump of 6' 9" and the roll says 6' 11" the jump of 6' 9" is good.

This is important to understand so you can determine when to start jumping. Your lowest successful jump might be in the 6' 6" range, but if you only have 1 of those in the entire column it would be a waste of a jump to start at that height (unless you wanted to assure a score), In fact, it is possible that you might not have to jump until several inches later based on the card. I'll try to let you know how many outcomes fall into the lower end heights (out of a possible 30 outcomes) - but I wasn't planning to breakdown the probabilities of the height (though I will occassionally state if the rolls are in high or low probability areas).

[Breeze]

EVENT 4 - HIGH JUMP - PREVIEW

Pflaggstettler - this card has very tightly bunched results - and it should make decissions on when to jump and when to pass much easier. The max is 7', but it will be difficult to reach because it only appears on 2 low probability rolls. 6' 10" or 6' 11" should be attainable however. The low end good jump appears to be 6' 8" there is only 1 but it is on 32 (5.65) so it's not unlikely that it could occur, and there are around 7 rolls of 6' 9" - however most are on uncommon outcomes - only the one on 24 ( 5.6%) is in a high probability roll.

Lesgettham - this care is the opposite of Pflaggstettler's. It is much more random. 7' is the maximum outcome - with 5 of them on the card including high probability rolls of 33 (6.9%) and 24 (5.6%) the max is reachable. the low end appears to be 6' 6" with a couple of them appearing - the most troublesome one is on 31 (4.2%). This column has more high end results but it also has a wide spread of outcomes - there are several 6' 7" to 6' 9" results including ones on the most common rolls of 34 (8.3%) and 35 (8.3%).

Yellope - 7' is again the max - with 4 possible outcomes, but none appear on high probability rolls. There is a wide spread with 6' 7" being the low end - there is only 1 but it is on a high probability roll of 25 (5.6%). The most common outcomes appear to fall in the 6' 8" to 6' 10" range. Because Yellope only attempted 1 Shot Put toss he will get an extra jump (8 total) without fear of fatigue penalty be assessed in the 400 meters.

Palmer - poor Deacon, he's a B level performer here, but his column isn't very good. 6' 11" is the max, but there are only 2 on 21 (2.8%) and 15 (2.8%), neither is a very likely roll. 6' 6" is the low - there is 1 of them on 38 (2.8%), 6' 7" is next and there is one of those on 20 (1.9%). The rest appear to be 6' 8" and 6' 9". The is one 6' 10" outcome on rarely rolled 13 (2.3%).

Mighty - can get a jump of 7" with rolls of 16 (1.9%) or 22 (3.7%). Does have a few 6' 11" outcomes including one on the prime roll of 34 (8.3%). Also has some 6' 10" outcomes in nice locations. The low end is 6' 6" - including one on 24 (5.6%) and another on 35 (8.3%). Those two outcomes on high probability rolls will make it difficult to determine when and how often to jump. Mighty like Yellope will get an extra attempt in this event without fatigue penalties being applied to the 400 meters.

Gonzalez - David has a chance to really make a jump in the standings. His max is 7' 4" - with one sitting on a 33 (6.9%). the other 2 are on low probability rolls of 11 (1.4%) and 17 (1.4%). There are 10 other jumps over 7', but only 7' 1" results on 37 (4.2%), 35 (8.3%), and 32 (5.6%) plus a 7' 3" on 22 (3.7%) and 7' 2" on 24 (5.6%) and 27 (2.8%) are in decent probability locations. The low end appears to be a 6' 9" result on a difficult to get 16 (1.9%). There are only 4 other rolls under 7'.

Mello - Marvin isn't a good high jumper, but he can max out at 6' 11" - it would take a roll of 26 (3.7%) or 12 (1.9%). There is a 6' 10" on 36 (5.6%) which is comforting the rest of the 6' 10" outcomes appear in the 10s. The low end is 6' 2" and one is on 33 (6.9%) another is on 25 (5.6%). There are several 6' 3" and 6' 4" outcomes.

Babson - he won't be penalized for his injury in this event, so he needs to perform well here. Unfortunately, he's one of the few B level cards that can't reach 7' for a max. The max is 6' 11" with 2 shots at it - 14 (2.8%) and 28 (1.9%). However, there are some 6' 10" results in nice locations 33 (6.9%), 34 (8.3%), 25 (5.6%), plus 3 more on low probablity rolls. The low end is a 6' 5" on 32 (5.6%) and 30 (2.8%). Ther are afew 6' 6" outcomes and several in the 6' 7" 8" and 9" in high probability locations including the 35 and 36 rolls. Because of 2 passes in the Shot Putt - Babson will get an 8th high jump attempt without any fatigue penalty in the 400.

Kappe - the leader after 2 event is looking to rebound following a poor effort in the shot. He can get to 7' but it would take a roll of 24 (5.6%), 39 (1.4%) or 17 (1.4%). Low end is the 6' 5" outcoe on 29 (.9%). There are several 6' 6" rolls - 33 (6.9%) and a couple in the middle teens. There are also several 6' 7" rolls. The most common rolls of 34 (8.3%) and 35 (8.3%) have a 6' 10" and a 6' 11" outcome on them respectively.

Ivanov - isn't a strong high jumper, but could get to 6' 10" with a roll of 19 (.5%), 21 (2.8%), 37 (4.2%). almost all of his outcomes are between 6'7 and 6' 8". The low is a 6' 3" result, but luckily it only appears on 11 (1.4%). When taken all together there are still quite a few 6' 5" and 6' 6" results on the card.

Eckberg - 6' 11" is the highest result - with several on the card - unfortunately most are in the 10s. 10 (.9%), 11 (1.4%), 12 (1.9%), 14 (2.8%), 15 (2.8%), 26 (3.7%), 30 (2.8%). There are also 5 results at 6' 10". The low end is 6' 6" with 3 appearing - one on the roll of 35 (8.3%) that can't make Eckberg comfortable. The others are on 39 (1.4%), and 18 (.9%). The rest of the results appear to be pretty evenly spread from 6' 7" to 6' 9".

Soldier - another player that will benefit from no injury penalty here. High end is 7', and there are 4 - 39 (1.4%), 37 (4.2%), 28 (1.9%), and 17 (1.4%). The low end is 6' 6" on 16 (1.9%). There are a few 6' 7" results, but the high probability rolls seem to fall between 6' 9" and 6' 11".

Gunner - WATCH OUT - your current leader could really stretch his advantage here. The high is 7' 5" with that outcome on: 34 (8.3%) and 33 (6.9%). There are also quite a few 7' 4" results. All in all there are 13 of the 30 rolls greater than 7'. The low end is 6' 8" and there are 2 - on 26 (3.7%) and 24 (5.6%). The is one 6' 9" outcome, and 8 results of 6' 10 or better.

Elli - another 7' max, but his probabilities may be better than most of the others at that height. He has 7' outcomes on 16 (1.9%), 27 (2.8%), and 35 (8.3%). The low end is 6' 5" on a 31 ( 4.2%). There are quite a few results of 6' 6" including one of 35 (8.3%) and several others spread from 6' 7" to 6' 10".

Cat - not doing well in the standings and coming into an event that he doesn't perform well - is going to put a lot of pressure on Cat. 6' 10" is the max - the good news is 1 of them is sitting on 36 ( 5.6%). Others are on 39 (1.4%) and 22 (3.7%). The low end is 6' even and it is on 30 (2.8%). After 6' - the next lowest is 6' 2" on 26 (3.7%). There are several 6' 3" outcomes - the most common outcome appears to be 6' 4". There is a nice 6' 9" outcome on 35 (8.3%).

Nights - is an A level card, but drew bad luck when the card was created. The high end is 7' 4" on 31 (4.2%), 27 (2.8%), and 18 (.9%). There are quite a few results over 7' (7 to be exact) and eight that are 7' exactly. The low end is 6' 7" on 39 (1.4%). The bad luck I referenced above comes from the layout of his card in the 30s. On 32 (5.6%) it's 6' 8" on 34 (8.3%) it's 6' 10" on 35 (8.3%) it's 6' 10" on 37 (4.2%) it's 6'9", on 38 (2.8%) it's 6' 9" on 39 (1.4%) it's 6' 7". The good news is the mid 20's are all 7' or greater and 33 (6.9%) is 7' 2".

[Breeze]

If you feel like you were short changed in the preview or if you think you need more information just let me know.

[Travis]

Darius will attempt his first jump at 6'9 and hope for the best

[albionmoonlight]

Mello will start at a conservative 6'3"

[Breeze]

EVENT 4 - HIGH JUMP - Status Update

I guess the best way to proceed is to have each of you annouce your 1st jump height - it will save us a ton of time passing.

Remember, with the exception of those noted above, you'll get 7 jumps without a fatigue penalty in the 400. Fatigue penalty breakdowns are listed earlier in this thread.

[JeeberD]

Eckberg will start at 6'7"

[Chas in Cinti]

Pflaggstettler:

First jump at 6'8", if successful 6'9"... will reassess at that point...

Regards,
Chas

[Breeze]

EVENT 4 - HIGH JUMP - Status Update

I will start the jumping tomorrow afternoon. If you fail to get me a starting height - I will take the first jump at your low end number. Unless someone has a better suggestion on where to start with the first jump.

[ntndeacon]

Palmer will start at 6'6". With his luck I need a successful jump at any height!

[albionmoonlight]

More info:

If Melo hits 6'3, then he will try 6'4. If he hits 6'4, he will pass until 6'10.

In no event does he want to do more than 7 jumps.

[Breeze]

EVENT 4 - HIGH JUMP - Status Update

Guys, one thing to remember about the descriptions I provided. The low end result listed means the only way that height would be an unsuccessful attempt is if you were go roll an injury or NG. Everything else on the card is higher than the low end number listed. Now if there are serveral low end results, you may want to start there then skip the next height before rejumping. If you were to start say 1" above your listed low end number, the only way you wouldn't register a good jump is if you rolled an injury, NG or the low end number in 3 consecutive rolls. Not impossible but highly unlikely.

Feel free to make changes to any starting heights you've already got listed, but do it below in a new post - don't edit your originals - that way I won't miss anything, because I can't promise I'll go back and check a post I already read.

This is a much more confusing event - if you have questions...please ask.

[StanGunner]

Gunner will start at 6'11"

[JeeberD]

Fine then, Eckberg will begin at 6'9"...

[JAG]

Babson will start jumping at 6'8". If he makes it in 2 or fewer jumps, he'll try every height thereafter until he totals 8 jumps. If it takes 3 jumps to make 6'8", he'll skip 6'9" and get back in at 6'10", going until he totals 8 jumps.

[albionmoonlight]

Edit.

On second thought. Let's start at 6'3 and then see from there.

[vex]

What is the starting height?

[Breeze]

What is the starting height?


We can start as low as 5' 8", but you should never jump at a height lower than your low end number and probably should jump at least 1" higher than that.

[vex]

Uh, thanks, I uh...didn't read the 5th page of the thread :D

[vex]

Elli will start at a nice 6'10".

[SirFozzie]

I will start at 6'7"

[JeffNights]

Hmm Well Hell, why not go big out the box?

Nights will try for Seven Feet on his first jump.

[Breeze]

EVENT 4 - HIGH JUMP - Status Report

Seeing Jeff Nights announcement and some others I think I better futher explain how the event works.

The bar starts at a height of 5' 10" (I am getting starting heights from everyone, because I don't want to go through the tediousness of having every athlete sign in just to pass for a few days). The bar will be raised by 1" when everyone either clears, passes or misses for the 3rd consecutive time (although all 3 misses do not have to be at the same height - I'll explain that later). Once the bar is raised - it will not be lowered - therefore once you pass, there is no going back. If you start at 7' for instance and miss on the first 2 jumps, you can't then request a height of 6' 6" to make sure you get a score. That is where the strategy comes in. What height do I start at, then do I pass a height before rejumping or continue to jump at each height that comes up. Also how many jumps do I take and is the fatigue penalty to much or can I justify it.

Your player is out of the event when they either annouce they are finished jumping or miss 3 consecutive time (regardless of height). Therefore I could miss my opening jump of 6'5" then pass my second, jump at 6' 6" and miss then pass the height and try again at 6' 7". Their is no rule that says you must clear a height before you raise the bar.

[JeffNights]

Egads! I'll go 6 foot 9 out of the gate then.

[PilotMan]

Ivonov's first jump will be at the height of 6' 6".

[kingfc22]

First jump at 6'8"

[vex]

Elli at 6'6" instead/.

[StanGunner]

Is anyone not doing the "Fosbury"?

[Breeze]

EVENT 4 - HIGH JUMP - Status Update

I have gotten heights in on all but 4 players (Kappe, Cat, Soldier, and Mighty), so I'll start lining things up to begin the event. Unfortunately this event is going to take some time initially it will be Mello and Cat that have to make a number of decisions to move the dynasty along (because they are starting at a height below the other competitors - and Cat hasn't been very active in the thread for a while). Also a note on the 4 who haven't entered an intial height - I will be starting them just above their low end score - since that has been my advice in other threads. Also - you may change your mind on your starting height as long as you annouce it before I begin the jumps after the bar is raised.

Here what I have for each competitors starting height:

Pflaggstettler - 6'8"
Lesgettham - 6' 9"
Yellope - 6' 7"
Palmer - 6' 6"
Mighty - 6' 7"
Gonzalez - 6' 8"
Mello - 6' 3"
Babson - 6' 8"
Kappe - 6' 6"
Ivanov - 6' 6"
Eckberg - 6' 7"
Soldier - 6' 7"
Gunner - 6' 11"
Elli - 6' 6"
Cat - 6' 3"
Nights - 6' 9"

[JAG]

Hey Breeze,

Babson should be at 6'8"...

Babson will start jumping at 6'8". If he makes it in 2 or fewer jumps, he'll try every height thereafter until he totals 8 jumps. If it takes 3 jumps to make 6'8", he'll skip 6'9" and get back in at 6'10", going until he totals 8 jumps.

[Breeze]

Hey Breeze,

Babson should be at 6'8"...


Oops - that's why I post the info I have.

[Breeze]

EVENT 4 - HIGH JUMP

6' 3"
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Mello announces he will attempt this height

Cat announces he will attempt this height

Mello's first attempt is missed

Cat easily clears his first attempt

Mello's second attempt is cleared


The bar will be raised to 6' 4" - I need input from Cat and Mello as to there intentions at this height.

[albionmoonlight]

Mello will try 6'4"

[Breeze]

Waiting on Cat, unfortunately he hasn't been very active lately. I caught him on the board this morning and PMed him. We'll see. I guess I'll need to give him until tomorrow to make a decision.

[Breeze]

EVENT 4 - HIGH JUMP - Status Update

I have worked with albionmoonlight through PM to finish up Mello's jumps. He said the results of others wouldn't affect his strategy and he had no problems continuing until he was finished. Anyone else who would prefer to run the event through PM is welcome to contact me.

[albionmoonlight]

EVENT 4 - HIGH JUMP - Status Update

I have worked with albionmoonlight through PM to finish up Mello's jumps. He said the results of others wouldn't affect his strategy and he had no problems continuing until he was finished. Anyone else who would prefer to run the event through PM is welcome to contact me.
I recommend it. It went quickly and easily.

[Breeze]

I recommend it. It went quickly and easily.

By the way - in case you were wondering - I will be posting his results jump by jump - so you'll know exactly how he did.

[Breeze]

EVENT 4 - HIGH JUMP - Status Update

Babson has also completed his jumping through PM.

[Breeze]

EVENT 4 - HIGH JUMP - Status Update

Cat has completed his event

[Breeze]

EVENT 4 - HIGH JUMP

6' 4"
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Mello announces he will attempt this height

Cat announces he will pass this height

Mello's clears on his first attempt





thanks to SFLCat for getting back to me quickly - allowing us to move on.

[Breeze]

EVENT 4 - HIGH JUMP

6' 5"
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Mello announces he will pass at this height

Cat announces he will attempt this height

Cat misses on his first attempt

Cat clears on his second attempt

[Breeze]

EVENT 4 - HIGH JUMP

6' 6"
-----------------------------------

Mello announces he will attempt this height

Cat announces he will attempt this height

Kappe annouces he will attempt this height

Ivanov annouces he will attempt this height

Elli annouces he will attempt this height

Palmer annouces he will attempt this height

Cat misses on his first attempt (4th overall)

Mello clears his first attempt (4th overall)

Kappe clears his first attempt

Ivanov clears his first attempt

Elli clears his first attempt

Palmer clears his first attempt

Cat clears on his second attempt (5th overall)

[Breeze]

EVENT 4 - HIGH JUMP - Status Update

We are now on 6' 7" and I need input from a number of players:

Kappe
Ivanov
Elli
Palmer

before we can proceed.

[ntndeacon]

Palmer will attempt 6'7"

[StanGunner]

Just to be safe please change my starting height to 6" 10".

[Breeze]

Just to be safe please change my starting height to 6" 10".


Too late - everyone's first jump is completed.

[Breeze]

EVENT 4 - HIGH JUMP - Status Update

Pflaggstettler is completed (just waiting on 1 final decision).

[StanGunner]

I too used PM to finish. Thanks Breeze.

[vex]

Elli will pass at 6'7" and jump at 6'8".

[SirFozzie]

Since most of my results are 6'7" to 7', I will jump at 6'7, skip to 6'9, and then go till either I miss out or hit 8 jumps (or max height)

[thealmighty]

Sorry...continued board crap...start at 6' 8"

[PilotMan]

Sorry guys, Ivonov will go at 6'8".

[Breeze]

EVENT 4 - HIGH JUMP

6' 7"
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Mello announces he will attempt this height

Cat announces he will attempt this height

Kappe annouces he will attempt this height

Ivanov will pass this height

Elli will pass this height

Palmer annouces he will attempt this height

Yellope announces he will attempt this height

Soldier annouces he will attempt this height


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Cat misses badly on his first attempt (6th overall)

Mello clears his first attempt (5th overall)

Kappe misses on his first attempt

Palmer clears his first attempt

Yellope clears on his first attempt

Soldier clears on his first attempt

Cat misses badly on his second attempt (7th overall)

Kappe clears on his second attempt

Cat announces he has finished the event


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Cat finishes with a height of 6' 6"

[Breeze]

EVENT 4 - HIGH JUMP - Status Update

I have completed this event with:

Pflaggstettler
Mello
Babson
Gunner
Cat
Yellope (I finished him using the instructions listed in the post above - picking up the jumps at 6' 9" and jumping at every new height until maxed out, reaching 8 jumps, or 3 misses whichever came first)

and am scheduled to finish with Gonzalez this morning.

We are now on 6' 8" and I'll need instructions from:

Kappe
Soldier
Palmer

before I can continue. Unfortunately, Kappe and Soldier are 2 that haven't gotten instructions in for a while - so I expect I'll have to wait until tomorrow to continue the event. (I'm open for suggestions. If you see them online maybe PM to them that we need instructions before we can move on.)

If anyone active wants to complete the event through PM I'm still open to that option.

[vex]

I say start making a deadline.