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orton1227
11-15-2006, 01:32 PM
Facing 4th and 8 at my 9 yard line, Indy decides to kick the FG, which is good. But then, I'm flagged for roughing the kicker 15 yard variety, and Indy declines it. They would have had 1st and goal at the 4 had they accepted it. I guess they were happy just getting 3 points.
stevew
11-15-2006, 01:40 PM
A lot of times coaches don't like to take points back off of the board. Knowing the situation in the game, which quarter, what the score was, etc would be a bit more helpful. Granted, I would assume that every coach not named Bill Cowher would try to punch it in from the 4.
MizzouRah
11-15-2006, 01:55 PM
Yep, I think almost every coach would have accepted that penalty unless it didn't matter (you were up by a wide margin late in the game or something like that).
NoMyths
11-15-2006, 02:14 PM
I've reported these kinds of penalty-decline problems as well. Was this from the pre-patch version of FOF2k7, or 6.0a?
orton1227
11-15-2006, 02:51 PM
it's 6.0a
cartman
11-15-2006, 02:55 PM
With anything related to AI, individual cases can be pointed out as mind-numbingly stupid. To get a better grasp, we'd need a lot more instances of this situation, and see how many times the penalty was accepted and how many time is was declined. If it's declined 2 or 3 times out of 100, that is much different than 30 times out of 100. 1 time out of 1 time doesn't tell us much.
orton1227
11-15-2006, 03:24 PM
I'd understand that in most instances of AI decisions, but this one's obvious. Every coach in the world would accept that penalty.
Passacaglia
11-15-2006, 03:32 PM
Maybe Kyle Orton was their QB and they didn't want to risk an INT.
cartman
11-15-2006, 03:33 PM
I'd understand that in most instances of AI decisions, but this one's obvious. Every coach in the world would accept that penalty.

Not necessarily. Some coaches never take sure points off the board. Especially if it makes it a two score game. Some coaches would be just as happy with a sure 17-7 lead than a chance at a 21-7 lead, if there was a remote chance the score would remain 14-7. That's why you can't say that the penalty would be accepted 100% of the time.
orton1227
11-15-2006, 03:40 PM
Well this was in the 1Q, on Indy's first possession. It made the game 3-0. No coach would refuse that penalty. Sorry for not clarifying earlier.
jbmagic
11-15-2006, 08:09 PM
Have you guys ever seen the AI go for Two-point conversion?
KWhit
11-15-2006, 08:15 PM
Have you guys ever seen the AI go for Two-point conversion?

Yes. Quite often.
VPI97
11-15-2006, 08:17 PM
I'm betting the AI didn't factor in the automatic first down.
cartman
11-15-2006, 08:27 PM
I'm betting the AI didn't factor in the automatic first down.

That just might be it. The AI is calculating that half the distance is 4 yards, which is still short of a 1st down. It takes the points, instead of kicking a bit closer.