Werewolf Small Game V: FOFC MRSKIPPY AND HORNSMANIAC WIN!!!

[spleen1015]

actualy the tombstone game I outed one of my teammates and got him killed. I'm not giving my reason because with the bodyguard gone I would rather not get our most valuable asset killed tonight.

Who are you believing as the seer then? If the seer is telling you to vote for me because I am bad, then you need to vote for them because they are lying.

[Lathum]

Who are you believing as the seer then? If the seer is telling you to vote for me because I am bad, then you need to vote for them because they are lying.

well there is only one way to find out. And I would rather not take the chance at losing the seer. It seems to me you may be trying to get the seer to out themselves

[Lathum]

Who are you believing as the seer then?.

I would never answer that question and put a target on someones back

[spleen1015]

I see what you're doing. You have no idea who the seer is. You playing at knowing to try and get some support.

DT, you are probably right. I need that venting thread. :) This will be the 3rd game in a row that I will be gone early. The last 2 were themes that I really wanted to last long in. I guess I was spoiled early because I lasted until the very end in my first 2-3 games.

[DaddyTorgo]

I see what you're doing. You have no idea who the seer is. You playing at knowing to try and get some support.

DT, you are probably right. I need that venting thread. :) This will be the 3rd game in a row that I will be gone early. The last 2 were themes that I really wanted to last long in. I guess I was spoiled early because I lasted until the very end in my first 2-3 games.

i can sympathize. i'm still in the lasting-long phase myself but i'm sure i'll be frustrated.

well, give me an alternative person to target spleen and I'm open to it. i mean as long as it's not blade/barkeep/dc/lathum (i suppose).

[Lathum]

I see what you're doing. You have no idea who the seer is. You playing at knowing to try and get some support.



not true at all. If others think I am wrong in not pointing it out then they should voice that opinion and I will. I am of the opinion that we need to guard the seer any way we can and pointing out clues isn't the best way to do that.

[spleen1015]

well, give me an alternative person to target spleen and I'm open to it. i mean as long as it's not blade/barkeep/dc/lathum (i suppose).

Can't do it. Lathum is who I think needs to go today.

[Barkeep49]

actualy the tombstone game I outed one of my teammates and got him killed. I'm not giving my reason because with the bodyguard gone I would rather not get our most valuable asset killed tonight.
Umm you remember that the person who you outed was me, right? Just making sure.

[Lathum]

Umm you remember that the person who you outed was me, right? Just making sure.

of course :p

[path12]

DT, you are probably right. I need that venting thread. :) This will be the 3rd game in a row that I will be gone early. The last 2 were themes that I really wanted to last long in. I guess I was spoiled early because I lasted until the very end in my first 2-3 games.

I've found it runs in cycles. But I hate the early kill part of the cycle.

[Lorena]

Monkey see, monkey do.

Another short game for me. This is a fine game to enter retirement.

Sheesh!

Spleen, I can totally relate to your frustration and I'm seriously considering this game to be my last as well. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt; if you're good, I don't wanna feel responsible.

unvote spleen
vote path12

[hoopsguy]

Umm you remember that the person who you outed was me, right? Just making sure.

of course :p

Why oh why didn't I just shoot him in the back that game like we had discussed? :D

[Lathum]

Why oh why didn't I just shoot him in the back that game like we had discussed? :D

what was that gonna be payback for again?

[DaddyTorgo]

Spleen, I can totally relate to your frustration and I'm seriously considering this game to be my last as well. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt; if you're good, I don't wanna feel responsible.

unvote spleen
vote path12


DC...it better not be. VOTE NO QUIT DODGERCHICK

Spleen...if I give you the benefit of the doubt today will that make you happy?

UNVOTE SPLEEN

[hoopsguy]

what was that gonna be payback for again?

No payback, more just because:
1. I had the power to do it
2. I would have taken over as leader with you dead
3. It would have provided a lot of latitude/trust in a game where I struggled to accumulate it

In fact, the only reason I didn't do it was because I had never played as a bad guy with you and didn't want to do that to someone I didn't know all that well. The best time to get to know people in this game (for me, anyway) is when you collaborate with them as baddies. So I let my meta-game reasons keep me from doing a good (I think) in-game play.

OK, threadjack over - back to the regularly scheduled game.

[Lathum]

OK< spleens reaction lead me to believe he is ok. I'm pretty sure I have identified the seer. Based on my assumption Ardent had a role I will vote for WVU fan

UNVOTE SPLEEN
VOTE WVUFAN

[DaddyTorgo]

assuming ardent had a role b/c he got a replacement instead of just quitting? that seems tenuous at best i think.

[spleen1015]

Spleen...if I give you the benefit of the doubt today will that make you happy?


:D

[DaddyTorgo]

good. we don't want anyone getting fed-up and quitting.

[Lathum]

assuming ardent had a role b/c he got a replacement instead of just quitting? that seems tenuous at best i think.

not really, he seemed like it was important to get it covered. I may be wrong but I would rather see how things play out with spleen over the next few days.

[Lathum]

plus it will be more fun to vote spleen tomorrow and watch him get pissy again :)

[Lorena]

I always feel bad voting for spleenie. He reminds me of jbmagic in a way without the repeating annoying questions.

[spleen1015]

I always feel bad voting for spleenie. He reminds me of jbmagic in a way without the repeating annoying questions.

WTF? :)

[Lathum]

I always feel bad voting for spleenie. He reminds me of jbmagic in a way without the repeating annoying questions.

man, now spleen is really gonna be mad

[DaddyTorgo]

So we have:

12/15 left...I'd say likely facing 2 evil now (mrskippy must have started with conversion ability).

Left:
DC (confirmed good)
DT (confirmed good...could i really put myself elsewhere)
Blade (strongly believed to be good)

10/12 ?'s:
Barkeep elevated above spleen/lathum .
spleen slightly elevated at this point and lathum slightly elevated too.

7 True ?'s

[spleen1015]

My biggest problem is I always act in haste and it gets me in trouble.

I typed Nob instead of Hob because I was in a hurry. I revealed because I didn't think it through.

So, I just stink I guess. :)

I dunno.

[Lathum]

when you say elevated do you mean trusted?

[Lathum]

dola- I have to go get a friend at the airport. I'll check back later

[DaddyTorgo]

oh, yes. sorry...slightly elevated=slightly more towards trusted

[Lathum]

I see alot has happened since I left.

[DaddyTorgo]

nope

[Lathum]

Has there been any discussion about the weekend schedule?

[DaddyTorgo]

not yet. nope

[Barkeep49]

Anyone have a vote count?

[JeeberD]

Vote path12

[path12]

Vote path12

Got a reason for that or are you just trying to get rid of a good guy?

[LoneStarGirl]

Well this day looks boring. I am going to vote JeeberD because I made him get in this game and he isn't playing enough and its frusterating because I have never gotten a chance to play with him and now he isn't really playing. Loser.

[Raiders Army]

I feel as if we should put the game on a hiatus this weekend. It's already slowing down, so I'm not sure if it will pick up during the weekend. Hopefully everyone will come back Monday ready to play. Night Actions will be due by 8 PM EST Sunday and we'll resume with the regular banning on Monday at 10 PM EST.

[Lathum]

works for me.

[Barkeep49]

I repeat my request for a vote count.

[Raiders Army]

This is what I have (please someone correct me):

path (2): Dodgerchick, JeeberD
WVUFan (1): Lathum
Lathum (1): spleen
Barkeep (1): saldana

Not voted yet: DaddyTorgo, LSG, path, WVUFan

[path12]

Well, have to tie it up somehow.

VOTE WVUFAN

[Lathum]

This is what I have (please someone correct me):

path (2): Dodgerchick, JeeberD
WVUFan (1): Lathum
Lathum (1): spleen
Barkeep (1): saldana

Not voted yet: DaddyTorgo, LSG, path, WVUFan

lsg voted jeeber

[Lorena]

ra,LSG.voted.for.JEEBERD.

sorry.my.spacebar.doesn't.work.

[path12]

Oh, that changes my vote then.

UNVOTE WVUFAN
VOTE JEEBER D

[Lathum]

ra,LSG.voted.for.JEEBERD.

sorry.my.spacebar.doesn't.work.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Raiders Army]

ra,LSG.voted.for.JEEBERD.

sorry.my.spacebar.doesn't.work.

Thanks.

[Lorena]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Hahaha.funny.eh?In.the.past.3.days.I.managed.to.fry.my.computer's.motherboard,mess.up.Antmeister's.computer.(luckily
he.was.able.to.fix.it).and.now.my.daughter's.keyboard.is.messed.up.No.one.wants.me.touching.their.stuff.Imust.have.some.bad.
vibes.around.me.or.something:(

[Raiders Army]

Hahaha.funny.eh?In.the.past.3.days.I.managed.to.fry.my.computer's.motherboard,mess.up.Antmeister's.computer.(luckily
he.was.able.to.fix.it).and.now.my.daughter's.keyboard.is.messed.up.No.one.wants.me.touching.their.stuff.Imust.have.some.bad.
vibes.around.me.or.something:(

Somehow I'm picturing you talking like a computer because of all the commas.

[Lathum]

Hahaha.funny.eh?In.the.past.3.days.I.managed.to.fry.my.computer's.motherboard,mess.up.Antmeister's.computer.(luckily
he.was.able.to.fix.it).and.now.my.daughter's.keyboard.is.messed.up.No.one.wants.me.touching.their.stuff.Imust.have.some.bad.
vibes.around.me.or.something:(

the message is funny.... the way it was typed.

[Lathum]

well I hope one of the non voters comes along and breaks the tie.

[Barkeep49]

I can go with the JeeberD vote
Vote JeeberD

[DaddyTorgo]

didn't i vote for path?

[DaddyTorgo]

who's the tie on? i'm confused. been up since 4am

[path12]

didn't i vote for path?

I hope not.

[Lorena]

unvote path12
vote jeeberd

[DaddyTorgo]

3 on jeeber and 2 on path?

i don't want to be accused of causing a tie. i won't do that.

[DaddyTorgo]

4 on jeeber and 1 on path.

hmmm

[DaddyTorgo]

VOTE JEEBERD

seems like it's going to go down that way no matter what. i'm still not entirely sure why, but i'm not going to be able to change it, that i know

[path12]

I voted for him because he was the second vote on me.

I got nothin' else.

[DaddyTorgo]

i don't want to be accused of bandwagoning, but at this point there's not much else going on, so it's better than placing a vote on someone who will get angry at me in return.

[path12]

i don't want to be accused of bandwagoning, but at this point there's not much else going on, so it's better than placing a vote on someone who will get angry at me in return.

Knowing what you've been through, that made me laugh out loud.

[DaddyTorgo]

Knowing what you've been through, that made me laugh out loud.


yeah. my experience in that game is definately coloring my play in this game right now.


hey RA...no hard feelings hmm? I'm just...frustrated at how that game is going down. And I took it out on the person who attacked me, that's all. I was out of line.

[path12]

yeah. my experience in that game is definately coloring my play in this game right now.

Shake it off, man! There's always another game.......like this one. :D

[Raiders Army]

yeah. my experience in that game is definately coloring my play in this game right now.


hey RA...no hard feelings hmm? I'm just...frustrated at how that game is going down. And I took it out on the person who attacked me, that's all. I was out of line.

Huh? I have no hard feelings for you whatsoever. :) I don't know why I would, really.

It's just a game. :D

[DaddyTorgo]

yeahhh...i dunno about that. but we'll keep that out of this game.

[Raiders Army]

Deadline. Results coming.

[Raiders Army]

After a day where the ban might not even come because of a tie, a decision is quickly reached. JeeberD is the member that you will ban by a landslide. He begs to be put in the box for a while...he even offers to post a tubgirl pic!

JeeberD (5): Dodgerchick, DaddyTorgo, LSG, Barkeep, path
path (1): JeeberD
WVUFan (1): Lathum
Lathum (1): spleen
Barkeep (1): saldana

Not voting like most United States citizens: WVUFan

SkyDog types in the commands in the Admin panel to ban JeeberD. As [s]he wipes a tear, condemning the most proliferious poster on FOFC to a fate reserved for only the unlucky or evil...

...[s]he finds something odd. It appears as if JeeberD has a duplicate account! SkyDog quickly bans both JeeberD and the duplicate account. Just before the accounts are banned, a message is posted:

Although I may be banned, I have left a partner to continue my work! What better AI? mrskippy or HORNSMANIAC!!!!!

Day 3 is over. Night 3 begins and ends at 9 PM EST Sunday night.

[Lorena]

woot!

[Lathum]

wow. I'm shocked he would be so quiet as a bad guy

[path12]

Woohoo!

[path12]

I'm havin' a fun werewolf day.

[DaddyTorgo]

NICE!!

GOT ONE!!!

[LoneStarGirl]

Hahah... thank you thank you. I am Mrs. Werewolf Master to you :-)

[Lorena]

Hahah... thank you thank you. I am Mrs. Werewolf Master to you :-)

Yeah good job LSG, you were the first vote on him which makes you pretty trusted IMO.

[DaddyTorgo]

do we think kyle inherited mrskippy's conversion power?

[Lathum]

do we think kyle inherited mrskippy's conversion power?

huh?

[DaddyTorgo]

well we started with one evil right? and now we have the horned-one facing us. which means there was a conversion...so do we think kyle has the power to convert now that his leader is dead?

[Lorena]

Who is kyle DT?

[DaddyTorgo]

hornsmaniac.

good luck guys

[spleen1015]

Good job folks.

[Raiders Army]

Night falls and you leave your computers secure in the knowledge that you have eliminated mrskippy. In the morning, you log onto FOFC and realize that DaddyTorgo is banned! SkyDog investigates and find that EaglesFan27 is also banned! Hornsmaniac was busy while you were sleeping...

Day 4 begins and votes are due at 9 PM EST Sunday if that is okay with everyone. If not, I'll push it to 10 PM EST Monday.

[DaddyTorgo]

GL guys. crappy day of WW for me.

[Lorena]

Aww fuck, that sucks

[Lathum]

grrrr

Spleen, look back at my posts, I was refering to DT and I think he knew it. I think the best place to start is with his trust lists.

He obviously cleared BK so unless BK was converted after DT scanned him he is cleared.

[Lorena]

Well I hope we have some sort of activity this weekend so we don't go into this thing blindly. I have a few suspects in mind.

[JeeberD]

Well crap. I'm sorry that I wasn't more active, LSG...I warned you about that when you convinced me to play. I just really don't have the time to play the game like it needs to be played, and I feel bad that I wasn't able to give it 100%.

Give 'em hell, HM!!! :D

[Lorena]

Well, let's get things started

vote wvufan

Time to get this spot to talk as ardent wasn't too talkative and now WVU hasn't been active at all when he was all over the place in hoops' game. Kinda UTR if ya ask me.

[saldana]

sorry i wasnt around yesterday evening, i had a bit of an issue at home that kept me from getting on the computer.

awesome that we got mrs kippy, but sucks that we lost our seer. he did basically give himself away, so the hunt for hornsmaniac should definitely start with his posts from yesterday.

are we off for the weekend?

[spleen1015]

grrrr

Spleen, look back at my posts, I was refering to DT and I think he knew it. I think the best place to start is with his trust lists.

He obviously cleared BK so unless BK was converted after DT scanned him he is cleared.

As far as I know, you are the only one that suspected anyone of being the seer. Since the seer bought it last night, that doesn't look good for you.

[Raiders Army]

are we off for the weekend?

It's really up to you guys. Because I started the day early, we might push back the deadline to Monday night 10 PM EST. If the consensus is that we want to go ahead with the deadline on Sunday, we'll go that direction.

Basically, it's up to you guys. :)

[saldana]

i can do what ever the rest of the group wants to do. i'll be home all weekend

[spleen1015]

I'll be out for a few hours tonight, otherwise I have availability.

[Barkeep49]

As far as I know, you are the only one that suspected anyone of being the seer. Since the seer bought it last night, that doesn't look good for you.
Spleen I don't think that's true at all. IN fact it's untrue enough to make me

Vote Spleen

As for the weekend I like playing at least one day over the weekend so I'm good with this schedule.

[Lorena]

Whatever you guys wanna do is cool with me

[Raiders Army]

Okay...we'll stick with the schedule for better or for worse.

[Lathum]

As far as I know, you are the only one that suspected anyone of being the seer. Since the seer bought it last night, that doesn't look good for you.

are you kidding me?

VOTE SPLEEN

[path12]

well we started with one evil right? and now we have the horned-one facing us. which means there was a conversion...so do we think kyle has the power to convert now that his leader is dead?

Well with two deaths last night I think it's more likely we started with two and there was a conversion, so there's still two. Unless there's something I'm missing?

If there has been a conversion, we had only one confirmed good guy end of day 1, so that would be the first place I'd go......or maybe that would be too obvious. IIRC, the cleared so far have been DC and Barkeep.

[Lathum]

2 deaths? Did I miss something?

[Raiders Army]

Clarification: DaddyTorgo was EaglesFan27. There was only one banning last night.

[path12]

Sorry, I got mixed up with the two names. So does anyone think there was a conversion?

[Barkeep49]

I think one person being able to do both a night kill and a conversion is unlikely. Now if it was done Night 2? I guess that'd be possible.

[LoneStarGirl]

Lol, I was wondering how they got two people too. Then I remembered EAglesFan27 isn't even playing this game.

[Lathum]

I think a conversion is unlikely since there were kills everynight and we know the BG didn't block anyone thanks to DC

*ducks*

[spleen1015]

Vote Lathum

Nothing different from yesterday.

[saldana]

spleen, if you didnt realize that DT was the seer, then you may want to call schmidty about borrowing his title ;)

all joking aside, i think spleen is a much better player than one able to miss the signals DT floated...saying he didnt realize could just be a smokescreen

[b]vote spleen[b/]

(ooc. also voting for spleen because he never registered me as a wii friend :()

[Lorena]

I think a conversion is unlikely since there were kills everynight and we know the BG didn't block anyone thanks to DC

*ducks*

I'll let it slide only cuz it's you.

[Lorena]

;)

[hoopsguy]

Congrats on getting your space bar.

Spleen, what better - bodyguard or seer?

[spleen1015]

(ooc. also voting for spleen because he never registered me as a wii friend :()

Yeah, I am bad. I missed a few of the folks that posted their codes after me. I will try to remember to get them added tonight. :)

P.S. I am only a vanilla villager. I have never lied about anything in this game and I'm not going to now.

[spleen1015]

Congrats on getting your space bar.

Spleen, what better - bodyguard or seer?

It is a travesty that this is a WW game about FOFC and there is no jbmagic role. :)

[Lorena]

Wow has it been slow today!!

Spleen, what better - bodyguard or seer?

Hahahaha... love it :D

Congrats on getting your space bar.

Unfortunately it's not the same keyboard. I tried fixing it by shaking it upside down, removing the space bar key and blowing on it, and I unplugged it and rebooted the computer, and I d/l the drivers. Since none of that worked, I could have hit Alt+0160 after every word, use periods or some other punctuation, or simply just get the keyboard from my computer since it no longer works, so I opted for the latter. Genius, I know

[Lathum]

So we have:

12/15 left...I'd say likely facing 2 evil now (mrskippy must have started with conversion ability).

Left:
DC (confirmed good)
DT (confirmed good...could i really put myself elsewhere)
Blade (strongly believed to be good)

10/12 ?'s:
Barkeep elevated above spleen/lathum .
spleen slightly elevated at this point and lathum slightly elevated too.

7 True ?'s


OK, here is DT's list before he died. At this point we didn't know he was the seer but he had already dropped his hint.

Going off that my trust list changes

2. Dodgerchick
3. spleen1015
4. Barkeep49
5. WVUFan
6. LoneStarGirl
7. Lathum
9. Blade6119/ Saldana
10. path12

Complete trust
Barkeep, Lathum- both listed by DT as trusted
DC- obviously skydog, outside conversion possible

High trust
Spleen- I know, strange but DT also mentioned him as well. If he wasn't gunning for me so hard core I would be complete trust. Plus

Saldana- I still have a hard time believing Blade would pull what he did as a baddie, but i guess there is a slight conversion possibility but unlikely

Low Trust
LSG- she made a comment that made me think she was the seer, now that we know that isn't true she has become an unknown

WVUFAN- my number one suspect, I think ardent had a role, he has been very UTR

Path=- UTR as well.


That being said I am putting my personal agenda aside

UNVOTE SPLEEN
VOTE WVUFAN

he seems like the best candidate despite spleen's continued attack on me based on the clue DT gave which seemed obvious to me. If anything maybe it will get him more active

[Lathum]

dola- him being wvufan

[Lorena]

Vote counts:

spleen 2 - barkeep, saldana
wvufan 2 - lathum, dodgerchick
lathum 1 - spleen

not voted wvufan, lsg, path

[Barkeep49]

DT had more people on his trust list than scans. Your pushing to be included on the trust list Lathum makes me very wary.

[path12]

I'd just note that even though it was because he had put me in a tie for the lead, I did put the second vote on JeeberD. I think Lathum's list is pretty good assuming he isn't the bad guy (DT only had a chance to scan one person and I'm pretty sure that was Barkeep).

So my list would read:

Trust: DC, Barkeep, path (barring conversion which I'm going to ignore for now)
Lean good: Spleen, Saldana
Neutral: Lathum, LSG (first vote on Jeeber), WVU

So that said, I'm going to:

VOTE WVUFAN

But if he is good, I'm taking a harder look at Lathum.

[Lathum]

DT had more people on his trust list than scans. Your pushing to be included on the trust list Lathum makes me very wary.

how do you figure?

he listed DC for obvious reasons, you, me and spleen. I listed my reason for dropping spleen and of course I am going to put myself completely trusted. Am I missing something?

[Lathum]

path, he died night 3 so how would he only be able to scan one person?

[Lathum]

DT had more people on his trust list than scans. Your pushing to be included on the trust list Lathum makes me very wary.

BK, I see what you mean but the fact is DT had 2 scans. Obviously one of them was you. I think with his trust list he may have been giving hints without trying to give himself away. I know I'm good and spleen is pushing for me so of course it is gonna raise some flags. I wasn't "pushing" to be included in anything, just stating facts.

[path12]

path, he died night 3 so how would he only be able to scan one person?

OK, two scans. Second could have been either you, Blade or Spleen according to his post. I like the reasoning for Blade (that's Sal now, right?) being good, so it's more likely he scanned either you or Spleen, with I think a slightly better chance of Spleen since he's had heat most of the game.

[Lathum]

Nice analysis Lathum. Wrong about me. And I believe wrong about Barkeep too. We had similar thoughts on Blade, which was essentially forcing the wolves to night-kill him in order to save someone else who was good and active.

Honestly I think that's a very pro-villager viewpoint. And I'm not comfortable voting for him based on that. I'd much rather vote Path, or Spleen who have made a couple interesting moves, as you yourself noted.

Path. I HIGHLY doubt if DT scanned spleen and he came up good he would come out and say he would rather vote for him.

That just makes no sense.

[Lathum]

VOTE SPLEEN

i'm with you on that lathum, like i said. glad you came around.

Again, why would DT vote for slpeen if he scanned him?

He later unvotes him but if he scanned him I find it hard to believe he would vote for him at all

[LoneStarGirl]

Why would anybody not trust me after I was the first to vote Jeeberd? Come on now people. With only 2 bad guys in the game it would be stupid for one bad guy to vote another on day two. And contrary to what most of you think, im not stupid :-P

vote wvufan

[Lorena]

Why would anybody not trust me after I was the first to vote Jeeberd? Come on now people. With only 2 bad guys in the game it would be stupid for one bad guy to vote another on day two. And contrary to what most of you think, im not stupid :-P

vote wvufan

Kinda like a bad guy would never kill someone they voted for the night before right?

[LoneStarGirl]

Kinda like a bad guy would never kill someone they voted for the night before right?

I never said that, I think that 'rule' is stupid and usually not abided by.

[Lorena]

I never said that, I think that 'rule' is stupid and usually not abided by.

True LSG, you didn't say it in this game, but you did in cronin's:

Blade, Lathum, and I had some communication problems, we could never get online at the same time or for very long. The first night we decided to go with spleen because I voted for him and it would be a good way to clear me, because of course a wolf wouldn't kill the person they voted for. The second night we went after BK because Blade said he got hints that BK was a seer or bodyguard. Night three we never talked about who we were going to kill (to my knowledge) so Blade decided to kill anxiety. Any other questions?

[Raiders Army]

With just under 90 minutes to go, I have:

WVUFan (4): Dodgerchick, Lathum, LSG, path
Lathum (1): spleen
spleen (1): Barkeep

Not voted yet: saldana, WVUFan

[Lorena]

It's deadline right? 9pm Eastern?

[Lorena]

Oh, the title said 9pm eastern, gotcha RA.

[Raiders Army]

You're right. Final results coming shortly.

[Raiders Army]

After your elation of banning mrskippy, you were devastated when your good friend, EaglesFan27, was banned by HornsManiac. There is a little debate on whom should be banned today and by an overwhelming majority it's WVUFan. SkyDog types in the command to ban him and discovers that he had no duplicate account.

HornsManiac is still at large...

Night 4 Begins and Night Action(s) are due by 9 AM EST tomorrow morning.

[path12]

Path. I HIGHLY doubt if DT scanned spleen and he came up good he would come out and say he would rather vote for him.

That just makes no sense.

I've been really stupid this game. Serves me right for scanning the first couple days. I am paying attention now for what it's worth.

[Lathum]

I've been really stupid this game. Serves me right for scanning the first couple days. I am paying attention now for what it's worth.

we've all been guilty of that. Now that you can dedicate some time I would love to hear your opinions thus far

[Raiders Army]

Everyone turns off their computers for the night, but they all sleep uneasily. When you wake up and log onto FOFC, you receive a PM from HM:

Goodbye Barkeep! Without your moderation of the Werewolf forum, FOFC will quickly fall apart!

Day 5 begins and votes for the banning are due at 10 PM EST Monday.

[Lorena]

Hmmm... I'm looking at the people that didn't vote for jeeber but voted for me: Lathum, saldana, and spleen

vote saldana

[saldana]

just for the record for yesterday, i voted for spleen, RA must have missed it,

and as far as the day we got jeeber but i didnt vote for him, DC thats fine...i did say that i was away from the board all night due to an issue at home and never had a chance to change my vote, but i probably wouldnt have anyway, as it would have then been construed as piling on and you would be voting for me today anyway.

[Raiders Army]

just for the record for yesterday, i voted for spleen, RA must have missed it,
Sorry about that. My fault.

[spleen1015]

Hmmm... I'm looking at the people that didn't vote for jeeber but voted for me: Lathum, saldana, and spleen

vote saldana

When did I vote for you? If I remember correctly, I voted for GE on days 1 & 2, then voted Lathum days 3 & 4.

I still think Lathum needs to go. He has done quite a bit of flip-flopping the last 2 days.

I'm not ready to vote yet, though. I would like to see how things play out some more today since I think today is an important day.

[Lorena]

When did I vote for you? If I remember correctly, I voted for GE on days 1 & 2, then voted Lathum days 3 & 4.

I still think Lathum needs to go. He has done quite a bit of flip-flopping the last 2 days.

I'm not ready to vote yet, though. I would like to see how things play out some more today since I think today is an important day.

Whoops, you didn't vote for me, my bad spleen.

[saldana]

When did I vote for you? If I remember correctly, I voted for GE on days 1 & 2, then voted Lathum days 3 & 4.

I still think Lathum needs to go. He has done quite a bit of flip-flopping the last 2 days.

I'm not ready to vote yet, though. I would like to see how things play out some more today since I think today is an important day.

thats a lot of defense, considering that in the end, she voted for me, not you....this makes me even more confident in my vote

vote spleen

[spleen1015]

thats a lot of defense, considering that in the end, she voted for me, not you....this makes me even more confident in my vote

vote spleen

No more of a defense than what you've posted. :)

I was just setting the record straight so that people didn't see what she said as the truth.

Your vote for me will mean nothing in the end, so feel free to waste it.

just for the record for yesterday, i voted for spleen, RA must have missed it,

and as far as the day we got jeeber but i didnt vote for him, DC thats fine...i did say that i was away from the board all night due to an issue at home and never had a chance to change my vote, but i probably wouldnt have anyway, as it would have then been construed as piling on and you would be voting for me today anyway.

[Lorena]

http://www.mindspring.com/%7Eboycekb/images/Smilies/Bored.gif

[Lorena]

http://www.multiverse.org/fora/images/smilies/old_multiverse_smilies/yawn.gif

[Lorena]

Hey spleen why do you think we should vote for Lathum? I'm seriously considering switching my vote.

[Lathum]

Hey spleen why do you think we should vote for Lathum? I'm seriously considering switching my vote.

I'm curious to hear this as well.

[Lathum]

VOTE SPLEEN

seems the obvious choice. More then happy to discuss reasons.

[Lathum]

DC, why are you considering switching?

[Lorena]

I'm curious to hear this as well.

What from me or him? FWIW, I think you might be playing the helpful baddie. Just speculation of course. It might not be either you or saldana (like I previously thought) but someone UTR like path.

I dunno, this has been a difficult game because there's nothing going on; we got lucky with Jeebs... nothing gave him away. Actually, come to think of it, path narrowly escaped death and later said he was having a great WW day. Not sure if that meant because he's actually evil this game and escaped, or what.

[Lathum]

I am curious to hear from Spleen why he has been up my ass the whole game. He really hasn't given any good reason. To me this game has been ripe with clues. I uncovered something else today that makes me think there may have indeed been a conversion which makes todays vote all the more important.

[Lorena]

Hmm... Lathum, you were the second vote on me (day2), wvufan (day4), and now spleen. Interesting and you didn't vote for Jeebs.

[Lorena]

I am curious to hear from Spleen why he has been up my ass the whole game. He really hasn't given any good reason. To me this game has been ripe with clues. I uncovered something else today that makes me think there may have indeed been a conversion which makes todays vote all the more important.

Is that right, mind letting us in on it?

[spleen1015]

I'm up your ass because you've been up mine. You said early, day 2 or 3, that I posted something that made you suspicious. You vote for me and every else does. Then, late in the day, you switch, then every else does. That happened two days in a row.

Why?

Because I think you have a strategy and you're getting the rest of the group to follow along somehow.

You just voted for me because you said it was the obvious choice. Tell me why I'm the obvious choice.

[Lathum]

Hmm... Lathum, you were the second vote on me (day2), wvufan (day4), and now spleen. Interesting and you didn't vote for Jeebs.

this whole second vote thing is over rated. The day I was the second vote for you there were 9 people left to vote, my vote was hardly signing your death sentance.

If you want to use vote logic the day you were lynched the vote was 4-4-1 when path cast the fifth vote for you with 2 people left. Far more damning then my vote. shrug.

As for the jeeber vote I cast my vote for WVUfan that day. The run on jeeber was pretty rapid, had I changed my vote it would have been percieved as bandwagoning, so like saldana said, damned if you do and damned if you dont.

My vote for spleen today is obvious. He has gone after me for 3 days with no good reason despite the fact that our seer said he trusts me. I can only assume he is going to vote for me today so I need to counter that.

[Lathum]

Hmm... Lathum, you were the second vote on me (day2), wvufan (day4), and now spleen. Interesting and you didn't vote for Jeebs.

I'm up your ass because you've been up mine. You said early, day 2 or 3, that I posted something that made you suspicious. You vote for me and every else does. Then, late in the day, you switch, then every else does. That happened two days in a row.

Why?

Because I think you have a strategy and you're getting the rest of the group to follow along somehow.

You just voted for me because you said it was the obvious choice. Tell me why I'm the obvious choice.


ok, first point. You made me suspicous because I indicated I suspected who the seer was and you attempted to get me to reveal that information.

I don't see how I have gotten anyone to follow along with me. I posted my trust list an opinions and updated them as we went along. I have in no way come out strongly against anyone or tried to sway the vote. If you think otherwise please direct me to the post #

I even unvoted you and backed off my vote for you.

You are the obvious vote for me today because I can only assume you are going to vote for me.

[spleen1015]

My vote for spleen today is obvious. He has gone after me for 3 days with no good reason despite the fact that our seer said he trusts me. I can only assume he is going to vote for me today so I need to counter that.

Show me a post where the seer says they just you more than me. The last time he posted any trust list, you and I were equal.

[Lorena]

So we have:

12/15 left...I'd say likely facing 2 evil now (mrskippy must have started with conversion ability).

Left:
DC (confirmed good)
DT (confirmed good...could i really put myself elsewhere)
Blade (strongly believed to be good)

10/12 ?'s:
Barkeep elevated above spleen/lathum .
spleen slightly elevated at this point and lathum slightly elevated too.

7 True ?'s

Lathum,is this the post you're referring to when you say our seer trusted you? I don't see "slightly elevated" to mean completely trusted and you seem to be pushing that quite a bit.

unvote saldana
vote lathum

[Lathum]

After a night where there is no protection from evil, there is no hero with a sandwich to protect you, and there is still mrskippy creating mayhem, you realize that Alan T is banned from the board. It appears as if it is the work of someone other than mrskippy...
Day 3 begins and lynch votes are due at 10 PM EST.

I'm wondering if this was pointed out because mrskippy was out doing a conversion. If there was gonna be a conversion this seems like the best time. We just lost the BG so there was a free shot at whoever they wanted.

[spleen1015]

You are the obvious vote for me today because I can only assume you are going to vote for me.

You are who I want to vote for today, but I am going to wait and see what happens. If it comes down to 2 other people, I want to be the deciding vote.

[Lathum]

Show me a post where the seer says they just you more than me. The last time he posted any trust list, you and I were equal.

yes and then after that HE VOTED FOR YOU!!!! why would he say he trusted you and then vote for you. That makes no sense

[Lathum]

Nice analysis Lathum. Wrong about me. And I believe wrong about Barkeep too. We had similar thoughts on Blade, which was essentially forcing the wolves to night-kill him in order to save someone else who was good and active.

Honestly I think that's a very pro-villager viewpoint. And I'm not comfortable voting for him based on that. I'd much rather vote Path, or Spleen who have made a couple interesting moves, as you yourself noted.

exibit 1

[Lathum]

VOTE SPLEEN

i'm with you on that lathum, like i said. glad you came around.

exibit 2

[Lathum]

Who are you believing as the seer then? If the seer is telling you to vote for me because I am bad, then you need to vote for them because they are lying.

why would anyone ask this question and risk outing the seer?

[spleen1015]

yes and then after that HE VOTED FOR YOU!!!! why would he say he trusted you and then vote for you. That makes no sense

Sorry. Wrong Answer.

With post 264 he unvoted me the one time he was voting for me.

With post 275 be posted his trust list where you and I are equal on that list.

With post 309 he votes for Jeeber.

He never gets to vote again because you killed him that night!

[spleen1015]

why would anyone ask this question and risk outing the seer?

You have a valid point, but the reason I asked the question occumpanied the rest of that post.

[Lathum]

i can sympathize. i'm still in the lasting-long phase myself but i'm sure i'll be frustrated.

well, give me an alternative person to target spleen and I'm open to it. i mean as long as it's not blade/barkeep/dc/lathum (i suppose).

exibit 3.

I don't see your name on that list. To be fair I don't know if where he says "i suppose" refers solely to me or to all 4 on that list

[spleen1015]

exibit 1
exibit 2

Posted before his final trust list.

[Lorena]

yes and then after that HE VOTED FOR YOU!!!! why would he say he trusted you and then vote for you. That makes no sense

Lathum, that is incorrect. If you pull up DT's most recent trust list the next person he voted for was JeeberD and ended up dying the same night.

[path12]

I dunno, this has been a difficult game because there's nothing going on; we got lucky with Jeebs... nothing gave him away. Actually, come to think of it, path narrowly escaped death and later said he was having a great WW day. Not sure if that meant because he's actually evil this game and escaped, or what.

I was referring to the other game, sorry. And I have been doing some catching up but am busier today than I had planned. I hope to be in thread for awhile by mid-afternoon.

[Lorena]

Sorry. Wrong Answer.

With post 264 he unvoted me the one time he was voting for me.

With post 275 be posted his trust list where you and I are equal on that list.

With post 309 he votes for Jeeber.

He never gets to vote again because you killed him that night!

DOH, got to it before I did.

[Lathum]

Posted before his final trust list.

they were still posted after night 2 where he had a scan. Had he scanned you and you came up good he wouldn't have made those posts or voted for you

[Lathum]

Lathum, that is incorrect. If you pull up DT's most recent trust list the next person he voted for was JeeberD and ended up dying the same night.

OK, listen. I understand all of that. I know he unvoted spleen and he had him on his elevated trust list. I realize that. My point is that he voted for him before all that which means THERE IS NO WAY SPLEEN COULD HAVE BEEN SCANNED BY DT.

[spleen1015]

THERE IS NO WAY SPLEEN COULD HAVE BEEN SCANNED BY DT.

No one has ever said that he did.

[Lathum]

Probibility of being scanned by DT before he died




1. Chief Rum--Banned Night 1- not likely, I assume if he was DT would have witnessed the kill

2. Dodgerchick- Cleared as skydog day 2- not likely

3. spleen1015- DT's original vote day 3 not likely unless he was scanned a bad

4. Barkeep49--probably night 1 scan

5. WVUFan--possible night 2 scan

6. LoneStarGirl- possible night 2 scan

7. Lathum- possible night 2 scan

8. DaddyTorgo duh!

9. saldana- blade's actions pretty much cleared him- not likely

10. path12- not likely since DT mentioned he suspected him in a post

11. JeeberD (mrskippy)--duh

12. GoldenEagle (Hell Atlantic)--Banned by SkyDog Day 2- not likely night one scan

13. Alan T--Banned Night 2-possible night 2 scan but like I mentioned with chief rum, I think it possible DT would have witnessed the kill

[Lathum]

that leaves LSG, WVUFAN, Lathum. Of those 3 I am the only one our seer mentioned with elevated trust.

[Lorena]

Hmm... I see where you're coming from Lathum, I re-read Daddy's posts involving spleen

Nice analysis Lathum. Wrong about me. And I believe wrong about Barkeep too. We had similar thoughts on Blade, which was essentially forcing the wolves to night-kill him in order to save someone else who was good and active.

Honestly I think that's a very pro-villager viewpoint. And I'm not comfortable voting for him based on that. I'd much rather vote Path, or Spleen who have made a couple interesting moves, as you yourself noted.

The bold part makes me think that DT might have scanned you. And yes, DT did vote for spleen but unvoted him which makes me think he probably didn't know what spleen was.

Hmmm... not sure where to go here.

unvote lathum

(sorry RA)

[spleen1015]

We're in a touch spot. We're 5 vanilla villagers fighting a lone wolf.

We'll just have to get lucky.

The below comments will probably seal my fate for today.

I think we should go no lynch today. We have 6 people left. With a lynch today and a night kill tonight, we're at 4. Lynch tomorrow and night kill ends the game. That's assuming we don't get the wolf ahead of time.

If we don't kill today, then we get to decide the game with a lynch vote on Day 7 instead of a night kill on Night 6. Essentially, our odds are better avoiding a lynch today and waiting for Day 7. Today we have a 1 in 5 shot getting the wolf. We could delay that to 50-50 on Day 7 if things go the right way.

[LoneStarGirl]

For now

Lynch Lathum

DC has brought up some great points and since she is the only one I trust...

[Lathum]

For now

Lynch Lathum

DC has brought up some great points and since she is the only one I trust...

maybe you should get to the point where she unvotes me then...

[spleen1015]

maybe you should get to the point where she unvotes me then...

:D

[Lathum]

BTW I think it's very possible the remaining wolf or wolves are sitting back and laughting at me and spleen

[Lorena]

maybe you should get to the point where she unvotes me then...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D

[spleen1015]

BTW I think it's very possible the remaining wolf or wolves are sitting back and laughting at me and spleen

That thought has occured to me as well.

[Lathum]

UNVOTE SPLEEN
VOTE LONESTARGIRL

her vote for me set off all kind of alarm bells plus the fact that she pointed out she was the first one to vote for Jeeber. DC made a good point about that not meaning much.

[Lorena]

BTW I think it's very possible the remaining wolf or wolves are sitting back and laughting at me and spleen

Heh, I was thinking at how hard they must have laughed after I offed GoldenEagle.

[Lorena]

UNVOTE SPLEEN
VOTE LONESTARGIRL

her vote for me set off all kind of alarm bells plus the fact that she pointed out she was the first one to vote for Jeeber. DC made a good point about that not meaning much.

I was thinking about that but wasn't sure if I posted or not.

Okay, I just looked back and yes, she was the first to vote on Jeeber and never checked back. Her post after he got banned was something about "Thank you call me Mrs. Werewolf" or something. I kinda wonder if she casted her vote meaning it as a "throwaway" and didn't realize he'd actually be on the chopping block.

[Lathum]

I was thinking about that but wasn't sure if I posted or not.

Okay, I just looked back and yes, she was the first to vote on Jeeber and never checked back. Her post after he got banned was something about "Thank you call me Mrs. Werewolf" or something. I kinda wonder if she casted her vote meaning it as a "throwaway" and didn't realize he'd actually be on the chopping block.

I dunno, all I know is I have seen WAY to many of these games where 2 villegars were going at one another while the baddies sat back, watched, dropped in with a vote, then stayed out of the way.

Path and LSG fit that profile

[Lorena]

DC has brought up some great points and since she is the only one I trust...

Oh gosh I hope you're not voting for him because I am because I'm as clueless as any of you.

[Lathum]

here is why LSG's vote set off alarm bells.

At that point spleen had 2 votes

LSG was under the impression DC had voted for me. Spleen already claimed he wanted to be the deciding vote. LSG's vote would make it 2-2. That pretty much forces path to do 3 things. Vote for a third party and let spleen vote for me, vote spleen and force spleen to vote for me creating a tie, vote me and let spleen top it off. All 3 outcomes favorable to the bad guy (s). A clever way to hide your vote

[Lorena]

here is why LSG's vote set off alarm bells.

At that point spleen had 2 votes

LSG was under the impression DC had voted for me. Spleen already claimed he wanted to be the deciding vote. LSG's vote would make it 2-2. That pretty much forces path to do 3 things. Vote for a third party and let spleen vote for me, vote spleen and force spleen to vote for me creating a tie, vote me and let spleen top it off. All 3 outcomes favorable to the bad guy (s). A clever way to hide your vote

Niiiiice, I can go with that logic

vote lonestargirl

[path12]

LSG's vote smells bad.

VOTE LSG

Usual caveat that I always read LSG as bad, though.

[path12]

I'm wondering if this was pointed out because mrskippy was out doing a conversion. If there was gonna be a conversion this seems like the best time. We just lost the BG so there was a free shot at whoever they wanted.


If there was a conversion, obviously the cleared list changes. Was that night 3? If so, then DT's clears are suspect, as well as DC.

If you were going to convert, who would it be? I don't think it would be DC because I think that's just a little too obvious. Barkeep, yes. Spleen, no (too much heat). Lathum, yes. Saldana (knowing Blade gained some trust by dropping out of the game), yes. WVU we know is a no. I know I'm a no.

I think we're down to a matter of elimination here. I really think LSG is our best choice right now. If that's not right I think it's a little more dicey. At that point I think it would be useful to start looking at changes in posts/voting irregularities. But without a seer this devolves into a guessing game somewhat, especially if the wolf decides to just stay under the radar (and yes, I realize that fits my personality this game perfectly. I have no excuse, in hindsight I should have known I wasn't going to be able to give this the attention it deserves and I would certainly understand a lynch my way. It would at least be helpful in the sense that you would have another clear, but unhelpful in the sense that we'd be getting down to numbers at that point).

[saldana]

ok lathum, i will buy your logic on LSG's vote which is the only reason i am changing, but if she ends up good, it will be an easy choice for me tomorrow.

unvote spleen
vote lsg

[path12]

ok lathum, i will buy your logic on LSG's vote which is the only reason i am changing, but if she ends up good, it will be an easy choice for me tomorrow.

unvote spleen
vote lsg

My main reason I suspect Lathum is because I don't know that I've ever seen him do so much analysis in thread (not to say you don't analyze, but usually don't post it a ton). It makes me worry about the Alan helpful villager ploy.

My God, can this post be any more meta? Bleah. Never mind.

[Lathum]

My main reason I suspect Lathum is because I don't know that I've ever seen him do so much analysis in thread (not to say you don't analyze, but usually don't post it a ton). It makes me worry about the Alan helpful villager ploy.

My God, can this post be any more meta? Bleah. Never mind.

your pretty much right but I have had some extra time during this game and the basic games are always much easier for me to follow.

[spleen1015]

VOTE LoneStarGirl

[Raiders Army]

After wavering back and forth in the beginning of the day, the decision is overwhelmingly to ban LoneStarGirl. SkyDog types in the command to ban her.

...she is not HornsManiac.

Night 5 begins.

[Lorena]

Well shit

[Raiders Army]

After a short night, you realize that saldana cannot post any messages. He is BANNED!

Day 6 begins and votes are due by 10 PM EST Tuesday.

[Lorena]

vote lathum

Quite simply, he led the charge against LSG and she came up good. Dammit, we had a lot of evidence against him and we let him slide. Grrr...

[Raiders Army]

There are four left. The fate of FOFC depends on the few brave left. HornsManiac is on the cusp of victory; will FOFC's destiny lie the heart of a dictator or will it lie in the hands of HM?

HM posts a message:

If I take over this board, jbmagic will be my new Werewolf Moderator!

Things can't possibly get worse, can they?

[Lorena]

unvote lathum

I need to think about this

[Lathum]

vote lathum

Quite simply, he led the charge against LSG and she came up good. Dammit, we had a lot of evidence against him and we let him slide. Grrr...

DT basicly came out and said he trusted me. I am surprised you can't see I am being set up. Lynch me and we lose the game. I realize I led the charge but if I sat back I probably would have been lynched. IMO spleens actions are much more suspicous including casting the last vote on LSG when it was already a run away. If you wanna lynch me don't do it because I have the guts to trust my convictions,

VOTE SPLEEN

bravo, you have done a great job in setting me up. I will never underestimate you again

[Lorena]

DT basicly came out and said he trusted me. I am surprised you can't see I am being set up. Lynch me and we lose the game. I realize I led the charge but if I sat back I probably would have been lynched. IMO spleens actions are much more suspicous including casting the last vote on LSG when it was already a run away. If you wanna lynch me don't do it because I have the guts to trust my convictions,

VOTE SPLEEN

bravo, you have done a great job in setting me up. I will never underestimate you again

I will laugh if spleen is the last baddie. It'd be as if jbmagic outsmarted all of us.

Why not path Lathum? I see him more of a baddie than spleen to be honest with you. It's not unheard of for wolves to piggyback off of a villager's vote and he and LSG voted for the same people days 2-4.

[Lathum]

dola- We also now know there is only one bad guy left, if there were 2 the game would be over.

[Lorena]

I will laugh if spleen is the last baddie. It'd be as if jbmagic outsmarted all of us.

Why not path Lathum? I see him more of a baddie than spleen to be honest with you. It's not unheard of for wolves to piggyback off of a villager's vote and he and LSG voted for the same people days 2-4.

Does it make sense?

[Lathum]

I will laugh if spleen is the last baddie. It'd be as if jbmagic outsmarted all of us.

Why not path Lathum? I see him more of a baddie than spleen to be honest with you. It's not unheard of for wolves to piggyback off of a villager's vote and he and LSG voted for the same people days 2-4.

Well I need to go back and look. All I know is DT had me elevated trust and obviously you are skydog. I think my suspiscoun in spleen stems from him attacking me pretty much the whole game despite evidence to the contrary. Path has been very UTR.

for now

UNVOTE SPLEEN

I would like to hear what he has to say. It follows along with what I was saying before that the last baddie could have easily been in the shadows watching me and spleen go at it. If that is the case Path fits that profile

[Lorena]

I will laugh if spleen is the last baddie. It'd be as if jbmagic outsmarted all of us.

BTW spleenie, before you get your panties all in a bunch, the above wasn't an insult so don't take it as such 'k?

[Lathum]

Does it make sense?

it does. I am a little annoyed at how I played this game. I have spent so much time defending myself against spleen that I have probably not noticed other things. I'm sure spleen thinks he is doing the right thing but we all need to step back and look at the big picture.

I am starting to wonder if spleen was bad if he would have kept going at me the way he has.

I

[Lathum]

another thing I am curious about why kill saladana?

had I been bad I would have killed DC, the only known good guy. Is it possible that path is bad and he has kept spleen and I around knowing we would face off against each other and he would fly under the radar to victory.

aaaaarrrrrggggggggggg

[path12]

another thing I am curious about why kill saladana?

had I been bad I would have killed DC, the only known good guy. Is it possible that path is bad and he has kept spleen and I around knowing we would face off against each other and he would fly under the radar to victory.

aaaaarrrrrggggggggggg

Nobody was going to vote Saldana is my guess. Just like nobody is going to vote DC. You, spleen and I have been bandied around since the beginning -- you two because of your going at it in thread, and me because I hadn't been around. And if there is just one left, it's not DC, so it's one of the three of us.

Or I should say it's either you or Spleen.

[path12]

I'm guessing Spleen right now.

VOTE SPLEEN

[LoneStarGirl]

Good one guys.

[Lathum]

Nobody was going to vote Saldana is my guess. Just like nobody is going to vote DC. You, spleen and I have been bandied around since the beginning -- you two because of your going at it in thread, and me because I hadn't been around. And if there is just one left, it's not DC, so it's one of the three of us.

Or I should say it's either you or Spleen.

understood, my point is better to have 4 unknowns then 3.

[spleen1015]

BTW spleenie, before you get your panties all in a bunch, the above wasn't an insult so don't take it as such 'k?

I don't know how I can be compared to jbmagic at all, let alone by you. I guess that is proof that I really shouldn't be playing this game anymore.

If I was a wolf, Dodgerchick would have been the one I night killed. We know for sure she is a good guy. So, that leaves me, path and Lathum as the potential wolf. If DC is gone, then there are 4 people left who don't know who to trust and the game would locked up for the bad guys.

I should have pushed more for a non-lynch. I'm surprised there wasn't a comment about the idea. I guess it was because it was jbmagic's idea.

We know we can trust DC. I know I am good. So, it is down to Lathum and path for me.

Screw it.

VOTE path12

I'm done.

[Lathum]

spleen, for what it's worth I don't understand the jbmagic joke but I also know DC has a heart of gold and would never insult you on purpose

[spleen1015]

Guys, I've been really frustrated the last few games I have been in. Maybe I am taking the game a little to seriously or something. I enjoy playing with you guys.

[path12]

Guys, I've been really frustrated the last few games I have been in. Maybe I am taking the game a little to seriously or something. I enjoy playing with you guys.

I enjoy having you around. Even though I think you're Hornsmaniac and have voted you off. ;) I think we all have frustrating periods with this game. I know I have.

[Alan T]

I enjoy having you around. Even though I think you're Hornsmaniac and have voted you off. ;) I think we all have frustrating periods with this game. I know I have.


Like say when I accidentally kill you as the seer on day 1? :)

[spleen1015]

I enjoy having you around. Even though I think you're Hornsmaniac and have voted you off. ;) I think we all have frustrating periods with this game. I know I have.

I know that you or Lathum are the bad guy. There is no reason for you to believe me, but I am 100% good guy.

If you move your vote to Lathum, I will as well. Hopefully, DC will follow along and we can lynch him. I have felt he is a bad guy the whole game. I just feel like his play style this game is more like the Tombstone game where he was a bad guy.

UNVOTE path12
VOTE Lathum

So, path12, the game is over one way or another today. We lynch the wolf and win or we lynch each other and lose. I don't know if you're a good guy either, but I figure I would plea with you to go with me on this vote. We really have nothing to base anything off of at this point, so it really is just chance.

I assure you that I'm not the wolf.

Hell, I would like to give DC the opportunity to decide the game. path is voting for me. Now I am voting for Lathum. If Lathum votes for path, then DC gets to choose which of the 3 of us are bad ans try to win it for us.

[Lathum]

Spleen, that seems like a wolfish play.

VOTE SPLEEN

[spleen1015]

Spleen, that seems like a wolfish play.

VOTE SPLEEN

Bah! I knew this was coming and I knew it was coming from you. :)

path and DC, please vote with me and let's get Lathum. :D

[Lathum]

Spleen, it seems to me you got a little nervous. Path voted you and if I did as well DC would basicly have to go along or create a tie. It seems obvious to me you are trying to swing attention from yourself and onto me so you can win the game.

[spleen1015]

Spleen, it seems to me you got a little nervous. Path voted you and if I did as well DC would basicly have to go along or create a tie. It seems obvious to me you are trying to swing attention from yourself and onto me so you can win the game.

I have no reason to be nervous. The wolf will win if I'm lynched.

How about we go for a no lynch today? Let the wolf kill one of us tonight. Then, tomorrow DC has a 50% chance of winning the game.

[Lathum]

I have no reason to be nervous. The wolf will win if I'm lynched.

How about we go for a no lynch today? Let the wolf kill one of us tonight. Then, tomorrow DC has a 50% chance of winning the game.

unless there is some sort of duel banning mechanicc that would allow you to win the game tonight. Those mechanics in these games are not at all uncommon especialy since there obviously was no conversion.

[Lathum]

You have pushed for DC to break a tie a few times. I have stated the obvious night kill would have been DC since she will get no votes. It seems that you kept her alive for this purpose.

[spleen1015]

You have pushed for DC to break a tie a few times. I have stated the obvious night kill would have been DC since she will get no votes. It seems that you kept her alive for this purpose.

Show me where you stated she was the obvious night kill. As far as I know, I was the only one to say anything about it.

[Lathum]

from me in post #460


had I been bad I would have killed DC, the only known good guy. Is it possible that path is bad and he has kept spleen and I around knowing we would face off against each other and he would fly under the radar to victory.

aaaaarrrrrggggggggggg

then you in post 465

If I was a wolf, Dodgerchick would have been the one I night killed.

[path12]

So, path12, the game is over one way or another today. We lynch the wolf and win or we lynch each other and lose. I don't know if you're a good guy either, but I figure I would plea with you to go with me on this vote. We really have nothing to base anything off of at this point, so it really is just chance.

I assure you that I'm not the wolf.

Hell, I would like to give DC the opportunity to decide the game. path is voting for me. Now I am voting for Lathum. If Lathum votes for path, then DC gets to choose which of the 3 of us are bad ans try to win it for us.

Actually, I don't mind that idea except for the fact that it really puts DC on the spot, and I don't know how fair that is.

I will say that even though my vote is currently on you, I'm not entirely sold on it and there is the potential of my changing it later.

Wouldn't it be funny if, just if, DC DID get converted and we've got this three-way standoff going while she watches........

[Lorena]

Wouldn't it be funny if, just if, DC DID get converted and we've got this three-way standoff going while she watches........

lol, wouldn't that be something! ;)

[Lorena]

Nah, I'm kidding. I don't understand why not kill me though... I'll be curious to hear that after the game.

I don't feel like spleen is the last wolf, his reaction is typical when he's been a villager. Although I don't remember him ever being a wolf.

Lathum seems to have a lot of evidence against him and I'm not sure if he has been set up or what. He has been very helpful... maybe too helpful?

Path has been utr for the majority of the game. He was the third person to place votes on LSG and WVU which is a good place to hide and the fifth vote against me when the bandwagon was in full force. The only thing that keeps me from voting against him has been his second vote on Jeebs. Although he could have done that to gain trust... not sure.

[Lorena]

Hi ImTheCrew! Who should I vote for?

[Lathum]

DC, what do you think of Spleens idea of a non lynch tonight to give us a 50/50 shot tomorrow?

[Lathum]

dola- thatquestion is for Path also

[Lathum]

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAI WAIT WAIT WAIT

PATH

DODGERCHICK

SPLEEN WANTS US TO GET A 4 WAY TIE SO AT 9:59 HE CAN CHANGE HIS VOTE TO ONE OF US AND END THE GAME.

[Lorena]

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAI WAIT WAIT WAIT

PATH

DODGERCHICK

SPLEEN WANTS US TO GET A 4 WAY TIE SO AT 9:59 HE CAN CHANGE HIS VOTE TO ONE OF US AND END THE GAME.

lol, I should post my thoughts instead of keeping them in my head cuz that's what went through my mind too.

[Lorena]

DC, what do you think of Spleens idea of a non lynch tonight to give us a 50/50 shot tomorrow?

I considered a tie but most of us will have to be here to avoid any last minute shenanigans.

[Lathum]

lol, I should post my thoughts instead of keeping them in my head cuz that's what went through my mind too.

great minds think alike :D

[spleen1015]

At this point, with the situation being what it is with Lathum, path and I, there is no way I can win this game.

Unless something earth shattering happens, my vote is staying on Lathum.

At this point, my gut says he is the wolf, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if path is. With Lathum coming after me like I am him, I can't help but think he is the wolf.

[Lathum]

one more observation. If I was the last bad guy I wouldn't caree who won ao lost, I would voted for Path or Spleen as soon as I could have making it 2-1 and forcing DC into either creating a tie or voting with me. I didn't do that, I waited to see if Spleen would tip his hand. Had I voted for Path Spleen would be keeping his mouth shut since he doesn't care if it is me or Path that dies, either way he wins.

Plus I can't trust anyone who

1. Asks me to reveal the seer

2. Comes up with a plan where it would be very easy for the last wolf to screw us at the deadline.

[path12]

Nah, I'm kidding. I don't understand why not kill me though... I'll be curious to hear that after the game.

I don't feel like spleen is the last wolf, his reaction is typical when he's been a villager. Although I don't remember him ever being a wolf.

Lathum seems to have a lot of evidence against him and I'm not sure if he has been set up or what. He has been very helpful... maybe too helpful?

Path has been utr for the majority of the game. He was the third person to place votes on LSG and WVU which is a good place to hide and the fifth vote against me when the bandwagon was in full force. The only thing that keeps me from voting against him has been his second vote on Jeebs. Although he could have done that to gain trust... not sure.

DC, if it wasn't for the fact that the timeline doesn't really work out for conversion, I'd be voting you just because you are still around. I'm with you in wanting to hear the reasoning for keeping you alive especially last night, though up till then it made sense since you couldn't really use your power anymore and therefore weren't really a danger.

[path12]

dola- thatquestion is for Path also

You answered my feelings about that with your next post. Too much chance for shenanigans. I love that word.

[path12]

Dola, I noticed that DC used the same word two posts later. Funny.

[Lathum]

lol.

[path12]

At this point, with the situation being what it is with Lathum, path and I, there is no way I can win this game.

Could you explain this comment? If we get the wolf, we win. If you're the wolf and get voted off, then yes, there is no way you can win. ;)

[spleen1015]

Could you explain this comment? If we get the wolf, we win. If you're the wolf and get voted off, then yes, there is no way you can win. ;)

The wolf is going to win because myself and the other villager don't trust each other. So, the possibility of getting the wolf is small, I think. If my side wins, it will be because we got lucky.

[Lorena]

Could you explain this comment? If we get the wolf, we win. If you're the wolf and get voted off, then yes, there is no way you can win. ;)

DOH! :eek: Oopsie, Freudian slip?

[spleen1015]

I am begging you guys to vote for me because I said "I" instead of "we" in that sentence. Lose the game for us. That's cool. :)

It is funny. I get votes because of little things like this because they are supposed wolf screw ups and I never turn up a wolf.

[Lorena]

I am begging you guys to vote for me because I said "I" instead of "we" in that sentence. Lose the game for us. That's cool. :)

It is funny. I get votes because of little things like this because they are supposed wolf screw ups and I never turn up a wolf.

Yeah Hob... errr... Nob or whomever you are ;)

Actually, baddies use small mistakes like that to get villagers lynched.

[Lorena]

Yeah Hob... errr... Nob or whomever you are ;)

Actually, baddies use small mistakes like that to get villagers lynched.

I should say baddies focus on small errors like that to get villagers lynched.