Werewolf XLIV: The Fightin’ Fundies vs. Them Gays - GAME OVER

[DaddyTorgo]

i agree with Lathum. Tyrith ought to put himself on the list too. That way if one comes up bad we don't have to waste another day.

that being said Lathum...how bout you put yourself on the list too? Save us that day and allow us to have a choice between you+tyrith (and me, although obviously I know I'm good so I would ask people to not vote for me).

Don't ask someone else to do something you're not willing to do yourself.

[Lathum]

i agree with Lathum. Tyrith ought to put himself on the list too. That way if one comes up bad we don't have to waste another day.

that being said Lathum...how bout you put yourself on the list too? Save us that day and allow us to have a choice between you+tyrith (and me, although obviously I know I'm good so I would ask people to not vote for me).

Don't ask someone else to do something you're not willing to do yourself.

I purposly asked tyrith to add himself to the list AFTER the day cycle. If I add myself to the list today there is no way for me to not get lynched today, and that is bad for the village.

[DaddyTorgo]

I purposly asked tyrith to add himself to the list AFTER the day cycle. If I add myself to the list today there is no way for me to not get lynched today, and that is bad for the village.

i think i see your point there.

and is everyone still hung up on that comment i made about the two people? is that what has everyone thinking i'm a ghey?

[Lathum]

I think either you are gay or Tyrith and the other gays are using you.

[DaddyTorgo]

well i'm not gay lathum. but i agree that they are certainly liking the attention that i'm drawing.

can anyone vouch for your heterosexuality?

[Lathum]

well i'm not gay lathum. but i agree that they are certainly liking the attention that i'm drawing.

can anyone vouch for your heterosexuality?

I don't see how but after tomorrow it will be a no brainer

[Tyrith]

If Lathum turns out good I will gladly offer myself for the ritual stoning I have coming to me for screwing up. However, I'm not right now going to offer myself as seer on a platter so that the dying Lathum can find some way into getting me offed. One step at a time.

[hoopsguy]

Tyrith, since you are around right now and there have been some questions about it - can you confirm that you are the seer?

For what it is worth, I had no idea that I was observed on Night 0.

[Lathum]

If Lathum turns out good I will gladly offer myself for the ritual stoning I have coming to me for screwing up. However, I'm not right now going to offer myself as seer on a platter so that the dying Lathum can find some way into getting me offed. One step at a time.

well in doing that you will be causing the village another day...

what ability could I possibly have that would make me be able to lynch you if you are only on the list?

[Tyrith]

Hoops, yes.

More or less I scanning the list of people that scare me. At the moment I don't really suspect blade all that much -- I lean towards trusting him somewhat, but he's either very good or very bad. So what I'm really saying is that I don't know, but my gut all along has been pushing me towards good.

[Tyrith]

well in doing that you will be causing the village another day...

what ability could I possibly have that would make me be able to lynch you if you are only on the list?

Herding cats and clever Lathum bad guy tricks. I'll do it if it's village consensus, but right now I don't really have an opinion on DT either way, so you'll understand if I want people other than the two people under fire to comment about putting their seer on the kill list.

[Lathum]

Herding cats and clever Lathum bad guy tricks. I'll do it if it's village consensus, but right now I don't really have an opinion on DT either way, so you'll understand if I want people other than the two people under fire to comment about putting their seer on the kill list.

well if you truly are the seer and I come up bad ( which won't happen) then you should have no worries about being on the liberal list since you would have been cleared.

[Tyrith]

Two things:

1) We still don't know what kinds of abilities you...*shudders at word* gays might have concerning people that are on that list.

2) You first.

[Tyrith]

I sadly have a test now, and class for quite some time. Be back this afternoon.

[Lathum]

Two things:

1) We still don't know what kinds of abilities you...*shudders at word* gays might have concerning people that are on that list.

2) You first.

I will be on the list tonight.

I am asking you to put yourself on the list DURING the night phase, not right now. That way we are both on the list tomorrow. I will be lynched then you will be on the list the next day already. That way when I come up good you don't have an extra day to kill more people.

[DaddyTorgo]

i don't want anyone to reveal, be it the seer or anyone else. it's just making yourself a target for a night-kill, or a brutal-gay kill. what if lathum is the brutal-wolf, and he wants you to reveal so he can take you with him? or he can take only someone on the list with him?

i'd be very wary of saying anymore.

if no one comes out by say...1pm EST to confirm anything about me so that i can gain trust in them, i will reveal what my tendency was...

[hoopsguy]

DT, there was a similar concept to the brutal wolf that you are describing in the Tombstone game. But traditionally the brutal wolf can get anyone, not just a subset of the people in the game. If Lathum was playing brutal wolf I would expect him to try and extract as much information about other players before dying and then take the seer with him. He seems pretty focused on Tyrith at the moment, for better or worse.

Now that Lathum has said his piece, I'm going to

VOTE NIGHTFALL

[hoopsguy]

Realistically, I don't expect the nightfall to be honored anytime in the next few hours. But I think our course is pretty clear at the moment with regards to putting Lathum on the list. Any Tyrith debate can wait until after the evening deadline.

[path12]

I would seriously advise Tyrith to NOT put himself on the liberal list at this time. It would be much better to waste two days (which I doubt we will since there has not been anyone countering him) then to put himself in any kind of situation where there is a chance of being killed.

[path12]

VOTE NIGHTFALL

[Lathum]

I would seriously advise Tyrith to NOT put himself on the liberal list at this time. It would be much better to waste two days (which I doubt we will since there has not been anyone countering him) then to put himself in any kind of situation where there is a chance of being killed.

how can you say that?

If I come up a gay anyone who votes Tyrith would instantly be outing themself as a gay.

When I come up clean we gain an extra day with Tyrith, that day can be crucial

[hoopsguy]

If Tyrith knows that he is the seer, then what does he have to gain by doing so? It is only a show of faith to his fellow players, along with hoping that the wolves don't take a shot at him. The seer has value that should not be recklessly wasted.

For what it is worth, I would be all over this point if you were advocating him putting himself on the list during the day cycle. As you are suggesting night, I'm still holding the position but less vociferously than I would otherwise.

Sure the wolves can night kill him. But why make it easier for them to day kill him?

[Lathum]

Sure the wolves can night kill him. But why make it easier for them to day kill him?

because if they do then we at least know who one wolf is.

He will enevitably be night killed ( if he is telling the truth about being the seer) so why not gain more info from it?

[path12]

because if they do then we at least know who one wolf is.

He will enevitably be night killed ( if he is telling the truth about being the seer) so why not gain more info from it?

We already know who one wolf is. You.

[Lathum]

We already know who one wolf is. You.

why are you so sure of that?

[DaddyTorgo]

vote nightfall

it's the trendy thing to do

[Lathum]

Lynch Daddytorgo

you are either a gay or being used by tyrith

[Ironhead]

I'm not buying into Lathum's song and dance. I think Tyrith is telling the truth on this one, and it would explain why he has kept such a low profile the first several days. I don't think it is a coincidence that Lathum was the only one willing to stone Cronin yesterday.

VOTE LATHUM & NIGHTFALL

[Lathum]

I want to hear more from Tyrith before I vote nightfall.

[path12]

why are you so sure of that?

Leaving aside the fact that Tyrith has come out as the seer and said you're gay, there is the little problem that you decided to be the only person to stone my innocent, God-fearing son........who despite your protestations to the contrary gave no indication to me of being anything but a Fightin' Fundie.

So there's two reasons. That's enough for me.

[Lathum]

So you think a no lynch is better?

[Lathum]

I'm telling you I am not a gay, Tyrith is lying and go ahead and put me on the list. It doesn't matter but you are giving Tyrith and the rest of the gays another day.

[path12]

Nobody has contradicted Tyrith. I just wish that if someone had the power to do a day kill they use it here before you can cause any more harm.

[Blade6119]

Blade care to share where you were last night?

The exact same place i am every night, alone

[ntndeacon]

Lynch Daddytorgo

you are either a gay or being used by tyrith

And that clinches your stoning.

[Lathum]

Nobody has contradicted Tyrith. I just wish that if someone had the power to do a day kill they use it here before you can cause any more harm.

why would the real seer contradict him?

so they can be killed tonight?

[Blade6119]

Lathum, if you want us to kill tyrith because he is lying, the most expedient way is to put yourself on the list today and then let us kill him tomorrow(or put him on the list, then kill him). If you dont, we will still have to vote you to the list tomorrow, kill you the day after, and then vote him, and kill him.

Basically, if you are good you need to take one for the team(like cronin did) and put yourself on the list. If your vote remains on DT, you are to me just damaging the team, and are admitting guilt.

Were around 8-2 or 7-3...a 1-1 swap is a very good thing for the village, and if you hold firm on DT then you are telling me everything i need to know

[Blade6119]

why would the real seer contradict him?

so they can be killed tonight?

Because were far enough along where a 1-1 is beneficial, and in this case it would be a 1-2 since tyrith, if evil, did it to protect DT. So if your good, and their evil, its time to take one for the team as we can win this soon if you do. If you stay the course on DT, you are just sabotaging the team

[Lathum]

Lathum, if you want us to kill tyrith because he is lying, the most expedient way is to put yourself on the list today and then let us kill him tomorrow(or put him on the list, then kill him). If you dont, we will still have to vote you to the list tomorrow, kill you the day after, and then vote him, and kill him.

Basically, if you are good you need to take one for the team(like cronin did) and put yourself on the list. If your vote remains on DT, you are to me just damaging the team, and are admitting guilt.

Were around 8-2 or 7-3...a 1-1 swap is a very good thing for the village, and if you hold firm on DT then you are telling me everything i need to know

there is no way I am doing that, I know I am good and by "taking one for the team" I would be hurting us.

I would rather take the chance DT and Tyrith were up to something. The way I see it is worst case scenerio DT is good, either way we are losing a good guy. If tyrith is so confident he will put himself on the list for tomorrow, we will both be on the list and if you feel compeled to lynch me then we don't lose a day after I come up good.

[Lathum]

Because were far enough along where a 1-1 is beneficial, and in this case it would be a 1-2 since tyrith, if evil, did it to protect DT. So if your good, and their evil, its time to take one for the team as we can win this soon if you do. If you stay the course on DT, you are just sabotaging the team

If I was the seer I wouldn't say a word. Tyrith is going down eventualy anyway so why get myself killed. I'de rather buy myself a few more scans.

[Lathum]

I have to go run some errands. I would like for there not to be nightfall until I come back.

[Blade6119]

Tyrith wont be going down for a an extra 2 days because of your actions, and even then i expect you to try and sabotage us again if someone else ends up on the list in the meantime.

And i think your just lying...if you had a wolf, maybe 2 in a big day like this you would call him out and know the BG could buy you a day or 2. With the numbers, its totally in our favor to do so.

[ntndeacon]

plus it isn't really a 1-1 if Tyrith is a seer. for we know more than that and any COT can expand to add Hoops to it. narrowing down the possible gays.

[Abe Sargent]

I don't know that I'm, going to honor nightfall votes. We'll see. I'm not around as much today as I am in other days.

[Lathum]

Tyrith wont be going down for a an extra 2 days because of your actions, and even then i expect you to try and sabotage us again if someone else ends up on the list in the meantime.

And i think your just lying...if you had a wolf, maybe 2 in a big day like this you would call him out and know the BG could buy you a day or 2. With the numbers, its totally in our favor to do so.

man are you parinoid.

I have no idea who is a wolf but since I know I'm not one I can only make assumptions.

[hoopsguy]

Not surprised on the lynch vote - it obviously makes sense for Lathum to do it as a gay. It would keep him off the list for another day. Which is why I was asking earlier if anyone had a power to move someone to the gay list as a day action - if not, then it is going to take awhile to get around to stoning Lathum.

[hoopsguy]

Er, to the liberal list since there is no "gay list" to put him on.

[Blade6119]

there is no way I am doing that, I know I am good and by "taking one for the team" I would be hurting us.

I would rather take the chance DT and Tyrith were up to something. The way I see it is worst case scenerio DT is good, either way we are losing a good guy. If tyrith is so confident he will put himself on the list for tomorrow, we will both be on the list and if you feel compeled to lynch me then we don't lose a day after I come up good.

You keep saying this, but thats not happening since you wont put yourself on the list. Your one vote for DT lynch overrides all of our votes to add you to the liberal list. So tomorrow, we will have to revote for you to the list.

If you really believe what you say about being on the list, you need to put yourself on it...as otherwise we wont get around to this supposed stand-off you want for 3 freaking days.

[Tyrith]

More or less, Lathum, you undermined your entire argument by refusing to put yourself on the list. If you did, we could lynch you today and everyone would know one way or another about me tonight. But alas, that wouldn't do you much good, because you have to stall for time as one of them. It was, and still is, a valiant effort by someone caught redhanded.

[Lathum]

More or less, Lathum, you undermined your entire argument by refusing to put yourself on the list. If you did, we could lynch you today and everyone would know one way or another about me tonight. But alas, that wouldn't do you much good, because you have to stall for time as one of them. It was, and still is, a valiant effort by someone caught redhanded.

there is no point to me putting myself on the list. I would just be removed anyway.

[Blade6119]

So then why make an argument about tyrith joining the list so you two could have a standoff if you dont intend to add yourself to the list?

[Lathum]

So then why make an argument about tyrith joining the list so you two could have a standoff if you dont intend to add yourself to the list?

because I know I am good hence Tyrith is bad, I want him to be on the list as quickly as possible.

What you all don't see is Tyrith is doing EXACTLY what you are accusing me of doing, stretching things out.

[Blade6119]

I see what your trying to say, but what does you current path net us? You know that were going to kill you before him...so all you doing in killing others is delaying tyriths death too. The longer you play this game, the longer tyrith lives. If your good, which you claim, and you want tyrith dead, which you claim, i dont see how you can ignore this fact. You are delaying tyriths death just as long as you delay your own. So if you are good, you will fall on the sword. One man is not bigger then the team, and if your good you will help the team in the bigger picture by sacrificing yourself to net us tyrith quickly

[hoopsguy]

Lathum, why do you think that you would come off the list?

[Tyrith]

there is no point to me putting myself on the list. I would just be removed anyway.

Well, do it and we'll see for sure :)

[Lathum]

I see what your trying to say, but what does you current path net us? You know that were going to kill you before him...so all you doing in killing others is delaying tyriths death too. The longer you play this game, the longer tyrith lives. If your good, which you claim, and you want tyrith dead, which you claim, i dont see how you can ignore this fact. You are delaying tyriths death just as long as you delay your own. So if you are good, you will fall on the sword. One man is not bigger then the team, and if your good you will help the team in the bigger picture by sacrificing yourself to net us tyrith quickly

I disagree. Do you really think there would be a gay duke?

Once I duke myself I hope you realize I'm good.

[Blade6119]

tyrith, stop...im trying to have a serious talk with lathum, and im open to his ideas(like chief is)...dont antagonize lathum

[Blade6119]

I disagree. Do you really think there would be a gay duke?

Once I duke myself I hope you realize I'm good.

Ok, if your the duke why wouldnt you want to go on the list and then duke it to tyrith and lynch him? That would be the perfect way to reach your goal

[Lathum]

Well, do it and we'll see for sure :)

The mechanic of my role is I can only remove myself during the night phase. If I was to get myself put on the list today I would be eligable to be lynched tonight, which would happen, and I wouldn't be able to use my ability.

[Tyrith]

No, seriously. It wasn't antagonizing him, but at this point, he's been spewing a LOT of stuff out there about the list. I want him to put his life where his mouth is, then I might theoretically listen to him. Except not, because I personally know he's bad, but you all would have a better case.

Lathum, if you want me on the list, I will be more than happy to oblige you. Just get the "real" seer to come out, and I will gladly sacrifice myself to roll up the two of you :)

[Lathum]

Ok, if your the duke why wouldnt you want to go on the list and then duke it to tyrith and lynch him? That would be the perfect way to reach your goal

I can only get someone removed from the list, not added to it.

[Tyrith]

The mechanic of my role is I can only remove myself during the night phase. If I was to get myself put on the list today I would be eligable to be lynched tonight, which would happen, and I wouldn't be able to use my ability.

And you waited 12 hours to tell us this why, precisely?

[Lathum]

No, seriously. It wasn't antagonizing him, but at this point, he's been spewing a LOT of stuff out there about the list. I want him to put his life where his mouth is, then I might theoretically listen to him. Except not, because I personally know he's bad, but you all would have a better case.

Lathum, if you want me on the list, I will be more than happy to oblige you. Just get the "real" seer to come out, and I will gladly sacrifice myself to roll up the two of you :)

If I am on the list at any point during the day phase today I am dead.

you would like for the real seer to come out, wouldn't you.

[DaddyTorgo]

blade is very right lathum. if you are truly good, all you are doing is costing us time. the fact that you persist on this course only makes everyone more certain you are a wolf.

[Blade6119]

If I am on the list at any point during the day phase today I am dead.

you would like for the real seer to come out, wouldn't you.

Id love for the real seer to come out...then we could vote tyrith to the list, and kill him tomorrow. And then scan DT tonight with the BG block, and were down to 1-2 evil with still like 8 good guys...we would be set

[Blade6119]

But, until i hear someone else come out i have to listen to tyrith

[Blade6119]

I have enough now to reveal myself to the world. For, see, at night I have been doing some investigations of some people that concern me.

It saddens me that cronin fell yesterday, because I knew he was still of the light, although circumstances dictated that even if I were here I probably would not have said so at the time. And we were fortunate, because his death allowed one of our real enemies to be known...Lathum is one of...one of THEM! HE'S A GAY!

N0: hoops, clean
N1: blade, I couldn't find him
N2: cronin, clean
N3: lathum, quite gay

Tyrith, please tell me more about your role...who are you?

[Lathum]

And you waited 12 hours to tell us this why, precisely?

well considering there were 6 votes cast on me while I was sleeping I didn't really see any way to turn things around.

I decided to keep it to myself and instead try and get as much info as possible while trying to get you on the list along with me.

The fact that you are so unwilling to put yourself out there tells me you are concerned to be on the list when really it shouldn't matter to you.

I hope once I remove myself from the list we can explore other options instead of continuing to waste time, but kudos to you, you probably bought them gays enough time to win.

[Lathum]

blade is very right lathum. if you are truly good, all you are doing is costing us time. the fact that you persist on this course only makes everyone more certain you are a wolf.

and you could very easily be bad. I would rather take a shot today then lose more time and allow more night kills.

[Tyrith]

If I am on the list at any point during the day phase today I am dead.

you would like for the real seer to come out, wouldn't you.

Yup. You want me dead, that's how you can get it. 1 for 1 trade, a bad guy for a seer? That's a winner for the good guys, no matter if I'm the bad guy (not so much) or if it's your accomplice.

[Chief Rum]

Lathum, I for one believe much of what you're saying here, but this vote for DT doesn't do us any good at all. Please remove this vote and allow yourself to go on the list by vote. You won't die today, but you also won't be the primary element that gets someone who turns out to be good killed either. Give another night phase for people to do their work and get some information out there.

I don't believe DT is gay, and killing him hurts us. Let yourself go on the list, and then if Tyrith is who he says he is, he will put himself on the lsit tomorrow. Then we'll have all three of you on there and can decide properly how to go about things.

[Tyrith]

I'm the head of the deacons. Currently I'm the de facto leader of the community because we don't have a pastor. Each night I can investigate one person, basic seer scan.

[ImTheCrew]

id just want you all to know i went to visit blade last night and he was gone

[Blade6119]

ok...lathum, who are you?

[Blade6119]

id just want you all to know i went to visit blade last night and he was gone

Did you not listen when i said i was never going to be cleared? That was a nice waste of a scan ITC...are you saying your a seer?

[Lathum]

Lathum, I for one believe much of what you're saying here, but this vote for DT doesn't do us any good at all. Please remove this vote and allow yourself to go on the list by vote. You won't die today, but you also won't be the primary element that gets someone who turns out to be good killed either. Give another night phase for people to do their work and get some information out there.

I don't believe DT is gay, and killing him hurts us. Let yourself go on the list, and then if Tyrith is who he says he is, he will put himself on the lsit tomorrow. Then we'll have all three of you on there and can decide properly how to go about things.

I can't do that.

The only concievable way Tyrith would make that play is if DT was gay.

I know I am good so I have to assume that is the case. I realize it is an all or none move but I suspect I am right, if I am not I'll accept full responsibility tomorrow.

[Lathum]

ok...lathum, who are you?

I am the duke.

[Blade6119]

I am the duke.

No, who are you...your role

[Lathum]

id just want you all to know i went to visit blade last night and he was gone

interesting

[Blade6119]

I can't do that.

The only concievable way Tyrith would make that play is if DT was gay.

I know I am good so I have to assume that is the case. I realize it is an all or none move but I suspect I am right, if I am not I'll accept full responsibility tomorrow.

No you wont, as we will have to vote you to the list then as per you, you will remove yourself that night. Then we have to vote you again, then spend another day killing you. Basically, the rest of the game

[Lathum]

I'm Brother Tanner McFlannery the Head Usher at the church.

Without quoting my PM I am studying to be a man of the cloth. Since I am so in touch with my spirituality during the game ONCE I am allowed to forgive all those who wrongly accuse me, hence removing my name from the list. I can only do it at night.

Basicly if others put me on the list I can forgive them and be removed but if I put myself on there I can't remove myself.

Anxiety, I hope this isn't to close to directly quoting my PM.

[Tyrith]

If DT was gay, why would I hand you the game by linking myself with him? The exact play I was talking to Lathum about and he laughed at?

[Chief Rum]

Okay there are entirely too many people out at night.

Pa Crew, what are you talking about? Are you revealing you, too, have seer like abilities? Why did you visit Blade last night? And did you see anything besides that he is not home?

Blade, you have been out now at least two nights, maybe more. You have claimed you cannot be cleared. Am I to assume you mean whatever you say about your role will liekly be misconstrued as gay? So you don't reveal because it will just get you lynched? Can you give us more information about your role and what you do at night?

How many seers do we have in this game? Role information is actually not listed from what I saw, so we don't really know.

[Lathum]

No you wont, as we will have to vote you to the list then as per you, you will remove yourself that night. Then we have to vote you again, then spend another day killing you. Basically, the rest of the game

which is what the gays want.

where exactly were you last night if ITC couldn't find you?

[Blade6119]

Nowhere, same thing as night 1 with tyrith....i told you all repeatedly all game, im never going to be cleared.

[Chief Rum]

Tyrith, can you give us more information about what happened on your scans? What exactly happened, what did you do, how did you get the info, did you learn anything else? Without quoting the PMs of course.

My guess is you didn't just get a message from Anxiety that said: Lathum is gay; you can't find Blade; etc.

[Chief Rum]

Nowhere, same thing as night 1 with tyrith....i told you all repeatedly all game, im never going to be cleared.

Blade, I knwo you like messing around with us, but this is weird. How does this confusion about your role help the village? You say you aren't out. You have been confirmed you are not home by more than one person. My bet is you aren't home any night at all. So what's the deal?

I don't want to take away from the Lathum-Tyrith-DT discussion, but my gut says your role is either critical or you are lying, and I don't want to lose the chance to clear things up a bit. Can you say why exactly you can't be cleared? Or explain that some more?

[Blade6119]

Blade, I knwo you like messing around with us, but this is weird. How does this confusion about your role help the village? You say you aren't out. You have been confirmed you are not home by more than one person. My bet is you aren't home any night at all. So what's the deal?

I don't want to take away from the Lathum-Tyrith-DT discussion, but my gut says your role is either critical or you are lying, and I don't want to lose the chance to clear things up a bit. Can you say why exactly you can't be cleared? Or explain that some more?
Id prefer not to for the time being...i do believe im home everynight, and for now id like to leave it at that.

[Tyrith]

Night 0: I feel that God commands me to trespass, so I sneak into hoops house. I find him talking in his sleep about how he finds Kathy Griffin attractive. Anxiety has quite a sense of humor :P

Night 1: I try to find blade, but he's avoiding me and I can't find him for the entire night.

Night 2: I find cronin praying in the woods, praying that the gays will be converted. A gay would never do this, so I know he's good.

Night 3: I start watching Lathum at dinner, and see him...touching himself as he watches two men share a Christian kiss on the cheek.

[Blade6119]

But i warned ITC in advance he wouldnt be able to clear me, and tyrith couldnt find me a night we have a non-kill. So ive been fairly upfront(compared with you and most others) about my where-abouts, more so then most.

[Tyrith]

Blade, I knwo you like messing around with us, but this is weird. How does this confusion about your role help the village? You say you aren't out. You have been confirmed you are not home by more than one person. My bet is you aren't home any night at all. So what's the deal?

I don't want to take away from the Lathum-Tyrith-DT discussion, but my gut says your role is either critical or you are lying, and I don't want to lose the chance to clear things up a bit. Can you say why exactly you can't be cleared? Or explain that some more?

Chief, this is pretty much what I've been thinking the entire time since I got my Night 1 PM.

[path12]

Blade, quick question based on something you said previously. Paternostal envoy?

[Blade6119]

Since i have no idea what that is, ill say no.

[Blade6119]

Ill say this, im the choir director here in town...what that grants me, i wont say. But it has its benefits and downsides.

[hoopsguy]

OK, trying to work through scenarios here on Lathum/Tyrith:

Scenario #1: Lathum is lying.
Day 4 - DaddyTorgo is stoned based on the vote from Lathum (likely good)
Night 4 - Lathum is put on the liberal list
Day 5 - Lathum is stoned (very likely bad)

Scenario #2: Lathum is telling the truth.
Day 4 - DaddyTorgo is stoned based on the vote from Lathum (about 50/50?)
Night 4 - Lathum is put on the liberal list
Day 5 - Lathum is not on the liberal list, we have no opportunity to stone anyone unless someone shows up on our list due to profanity or night actions

Does anyone have a legitimate reason to trust Lathum's story? Because if he is telling the truth we are going to find ourselves in a tough spot tomorrow.

[Blade6119]

Quick question...why do you assume lathum will go on the list over the night(in both scenarios)

[hoopsguy]

Blade, you are right - it doesn't happen since he is stoning Tyrith!

[Blade6119]

Well, DT..but yes...so then we vote him day 5, and we dont get our first crack at him until day 6 if hes lying...day 7 if telling the truth.

[hoopsguy]

Updated scenarios:

Scenario #1: Lathum is lying.
Day 4 - DaddyTorgo is stoned based on the vote from Lathum (likely good), no one on list
Night 4 -
Day 5 - Lathum is put on the liberal list
Night 5 - Lathum awaits his death
Day 6 - Lathum is stoned (very likely bad)

So we only get him on Day 6, and this assumes that no one else finds their way onto the liberal list between now and then as he would just choose to stone them.


Scenario #2: Lathum is telling the truth.
Day 4 - DaddyTorgo is stoned based on the vote from Lathum (about 50/50?)
Night 4 -
Day 5 - Lathum is put on the liberal list
Night 5 - Lathum removes himself from the liberal list
Day 6 - Lathum is not on the liberal list, we have no opportunity to stone anyone unless someone shows up on our list due to profanity or night actions. We put Tyrith on liberal list
Night 6
Day 7 - we stone Tyrith

One day swing. Again, we are counting on no one else appearing on the liberal list in between for reasons of profanity or night-related activity.

[Blade6119]

UNVOTE LIBERAL LIST LATHUM

VOTE TYRITH LIBERAL LIST

[Blade6119]

ITC, should we believe tyrith? Im making a mental leap here, and need to know your thoughts.

[hoopsguy]

Blade, it really doesn't matter who we vote for on liberals as long as Lathum is keeping his vote on DT for a lynch.

[Chief Rum]

Agreed with hoops here. But I'll put in a vote anyway.

VOTE TYRITH LIBERAL LIST

This is tentative. I'm not certain about Tyrith or Lathum. But Lathum has enough votes, so mine's going here. I am hoping we have more information this time tomorrow.

I'll be out rest of the day, so good luck everyone.

[Blade6119]

Blade, it really doesn't matter who we vote for on liberals as long as Lathum is keeping his vote on DT for a lynch.

Well, if we vote tyrith to the list lathum would likely withdraw his vote.

But, im not sold either way...chief has been on lathums side from the get go, so im not putting stock into anything he says.

In my opinion, either way we have 2 wolves(tyrith/dt or lathum/chief)...its just a matter of which pair.

[Lathum]

If there are enough votes to put Tyrith on the liberal list I would withdraw my vote on DT so we can have 2 possible bad guys on the list.

[hoopsguy]

Lathum, if Tyrith ends up getting the votes would you put yourself on the Liberal list after the deadline so you could demonstrate your duke power? Because that is basically the reverse of what you were asking him to do earlier when he called you out.

I see that as a clear win for you - you get to demonstrate your "dukeness" to everyone, we get to vote for Tyrith tomorrow, and go from there in terms of Daddy Torgo and anyone else who might be on the list at the start of the day.

So, any objections?

[Lathum]

Lathum, if Tyrith ends up getting the votes would you put yourself on the Liberal list after the deadline so you could demonstrate your duke power? Because that is basically the reverse of what you were asking him to do earlier when he called you out.

I see that as a clear win for you - you get to demonstrate your "dukeness" to everyone, we get to vote for Tyrith tomorrow, and go from there in terms of Daddy Torgo and anyone else who might be on the list at the start of the day.

So, any objections?

I need to confirm the order of night action with Anxiety, but assuming I can put myself on the list then duke myself off, then I have no objections.

[hoopsguy]

From what I've seen, you put yourself on the list with one bad word and it is instantaneous - see Cronin. Unless those rules change from day to night, that seems to be the process. So do it right after the deadline, then send your order in after that.

I'll believe you are going to do this when I see you swear in the thread ...

[Blade6119]

And im still waiting to hear from ITC about his seer scans and if he thinks tyrith also seer scans

[path12]

This is crazy. WHO HAS COUNTERED TYRITH???? Until that happens, there is absolutely no reason to believe Lathum.

[Blade6119]

path, ITC has claimed seer scans as well...thats why im in limbo, as someone has kind of countered tyrith.

[path12]

If we got someone else on the liberal list and had someone put one vote on them then they would tie for the stone and we would default to the list voting, correct? If this is the case I would be willing to put myself on the list to avoid DT being stoned by Lathum and then we could be sure and get him on the list tonight.

[Tyrith]

This seems to be the most alarming trust I've seen in quite some time...of course, it's something I've argued for before -- kill the seer, confirm their list. If it is the consensus of the group (aka the people NOT LATHUM), I will allow you to kill me tonight in order to expediate the process. However, I don't think you can equally weight me and Lathum here, for a variety of reasons.

1) Out of duke and seer, the duke role is much less likely to be in the game.
2) I came out first, and Lathum waited (and was around) many hours before "revealing".
3) Lathum killed cronin yesterday.

At this point I'm going to offer myself up to the group. Use me as is your will.

[path12]

path, ITC has claimed seer scans as well...thats why im in limbo, as someone has kind of countered tyrith.

I didn't see that as a counter, what I see is two different kinds of seers. Maybe one can find liberal tendencies and the other can find gays....I don't know.

[Tyrith]

path, ITC has claimed seer scans as well...thats why im in limbo, as someone has kind of countered tyrith.

Did he claim seer, or just that he was trying to follow you around? Because if he claimed seer, I'll let you kill me today and you can bag them both.

[path12]

This seems to be the most alarming trust I've seen in quite some time...of course, it's something I've argued for before -- kill the seer, confirm their list. If it is the consensus of the group (aka the people NOT LATHUM), I will allow you to kill me tonight in order to expediate the process. However, I don't think you can equally weight me and Lathum here, for a variety of reasons.

1) Out of duke and seer, the duke role is much less likely to be in the game.
2) I came out first, and Lathum waited (and was around) many hours before "revealing".
3) Lathum killed cronin yesterday.

At this point I'm going to offer myself up to the group. Use me as is your will.

I would rather offer myself up since I have no role. I think a seer should stay alive until it is proved he is not the seer.

[Tyrith]

However, upon rereading it doesn't look like he claimed seer. Looks like he just visited you, which could be as much a bodyguard as anything at this point.

Blade, at this point I think it might be good if you reveal if it's anything remotely relevant to this discussion...your choice, though.

[Tyrith]

I would rather offer myself up since I have no role. I think a seer should stay alive until it is proved he is not the seer.

I agree, but right now this feels like herding cats, as people are believing Lathum after he had hours to conjure up facts instead of the uncountered seer who revealed about 10 minutes after he got his PM last night.

[Blade6119]

Its not relevant to this discussion, and i dont believe lathum over you tyrith...im just working with some facts from various sources(such as the night your seer scan failed on me was the night we had a no-kill). I havent decided either way

[hoopsguy]

As far as I can tell, no one has countered Tyrith - including Crew. Now I guess it is possible that we have a dead seer among the three Fundies, but that would take some guts on the part of the deviants. I just don't see time being on their side quite yet.

I trust Tyrith over Lathum and I'm not switching my vote at this time. The way that Lathum is describing his Duke power doesn't seem correct at all - can only use at night, doesn't pick another person. By contrast, Tyrith's seer sounds spot on. Sure there is variance from moderator to moderator, but just ask yourself what makes more sense here? Even ignoring any kind of metagame thoughts on Lathum as a player (which he is certainly inviting as the "World's Best Wolf" signature) ...

If Crew comes out and says he is the seer between now and deadline I'll re-evaluate, but that is about the only circumstance that I see changing my vote for today.

[Tyrith]

As far as I can tell, no one has countered Tyrith - including Crew. Now I guess it is possible that we have a dead seer among the three Fundies, but that would take some guts on the part of the deviants. I just don't see time being on their side quite yet.

I trust Tyrith over Lathum and I'm not switching my vote at this time. The way that Lathum is describing his Duke power doesn't seem correct at all - can only use at night, doesn't pick another person. By contrast, Tyrith's seer sounds spot on. Sure there is variance from moderator to moderator, but just ask yourself what makes more sense here? Even ignoring any kind of metagame thoughts on Lathum as a player (which he is certainly inviting as the "World's Best Wolf" signature) ...

If Crew comes out and says he is the seer between now and deadline I'll re-evaluate, but that is about the only circumstance that I see changing my vote for today.

You have no idea how nice it is to be able to actually trust what you say in one of these games :P

[path12]

The problem is that Lathum has placed a stone vote on DT, hasn't he? So in order for him to get on the list tonight we would have to have a tie in the stone vote, correct?

Abe, can you clarify that?

[Blade6119]

No, there is an unknown tie-breaker for lynching...only a tie-breaker in the list vote results in nothing

[Abe Sargent]

The problem is that Lathum has placed a stone vote on DT, hasn't he? So in order for him to get on the list tonight we would have to have a tie in the stone vote, correct?

Abe, can you clarify that?

Stone votes trump liberal votes like a 2 of Hearts trumps an Ace of Clubs. Or like Donald trumps hairstyle. It's an auto win baby!

[Lathum]

The problem is that Lathum has placed a stone vote on DT, hasn't he? So in order for him to get on the list tonight we would have to have a tie in the stone vote, correct?

Abe, can you clarify that?

I think he said the lynch vote tie breaker is unknown

[Abe Sargent]

On the other hand, there would need to be muptle peopl eon teh liberal list to have a tie for stoning.

[ntndeacon]

No, there is an unknown tie-breaker for lynching...only a tie-breaker in the list vote results in nothing

Until i had remembered that, ihad thought the best thing would be to vollunteer by making a patently ridiculous statement to trigger names being put on the liberal list.

[hoopsguy]

Path, I don't think that plan is going to work based on Anxiety's post:

At the end of the day, you will stone the person on the liberal list with the greatest amount of stone votes. In the case of a tied stone vote, an undisclosed method will be used to determine the victim. Even one stone votes trumps J’accuse.

So it looks like it is different than what we say on Day 1 with the tie.

[Lathum]

I'm out for a while. Unless something changes I'll take my chances

[DaddyTorgo]

blade

per your theory in #604

I'm not a wolf. So I can't vouch for Tyrith at all, but I know I'm not a wolf. So if you're drawing the line there...your other wolf-pair is Rum+Lathum

Cuz I guarentee you i'm 100% innocent.

I want to know what night action ended me up on the liberal list, cuz I didn't get any type of PM about it. So I'll say this. My liberal-list leaning-tendency or whatever you want to call it, is that I have donated to the ACLU in the past.

And I have no idea whether Lathum or Tyrith is telling the truth. I know that I am a deacon in the church though. But whether there could be other deacons (including a head deacon) i'm not sure. I have no way of knowing.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'll die. It's okay. I have no special powers so it's just a loss of one villager. I just wish we had a way we could make some other type of progress. Because otherwise like hoops said, it'll be day 7 before you can off lathum.

and the only way to trust tyrith is to off lathum and see what happens. But that'll take forever.


heyyyy...call me crazy, but what if tyrith+lathum are BOTH wolves? and this is their lil "we have the numbers to get to endgame this way" plan??

honestly though, I think it more likely that tyrith is actually the seer.

[Tyrith]

i'll die. It's okay. I have no special powers so it's just a loss of one villager. I just wish we had a way we could make some other type of progress. Because otherwise like hoops said, it'll be day 7 before you can off lathum.

and the only way to trust tyrith is to off lathum and see what happens. But that'll take forever.


heyyyy...call me crazy, but what if tyrith+lathum are BOTH wolves? and this is their lil "we have the numbers to get to endgame this way" plan??

honestly though, I think it more likely that tyrith is actually the seer.

The simple solution is for another person to claim that they are the seer. If another person claims seer I will gladly sacrifice myself for the good of the village, for my task will have been accomplished.

[path12]

Yeah, this kind of sucks. So Lathum is going to be able all by himself to kill Cronin and DT, and it's still going to be two days before we can get him?

Again, perfect time for someone to use some powers -- somebody's got to have them, this is way too unbalanced otherwise.

[Tyrith]

I figure there has to be more going on than meets the eye, because otherwise we could never win -- we have no obvious mechanism for getting people onto the list...but he said the gays would have some liberal streak in them. If it was only special roles and they got killed I'm sure Anxiety has a plan...right?

[Blade6119]

well who put DT on the list?

[DaddyTorgo]

good question.

I was put on the list via a night action according to anxiety. I have a feeling it was some mechanism like a garbage man or someone like that who could have gone through my trash and maybe seen the receipts from my donations to the ACLU or something?

[DaddyTorgo]

but I don't have anything to base that on. I just figure that's more likely than a burgular or something

[ImTheCrew]

ITC, should we believe tyrith? Im making a mental leap here, and need to know your thoughts.

i wouldnt think that he would come out so early... but its possible.... im not a seer but i can visit people at night and first night was cronin and he was asleep then tyrith the next day and he was asleep, the last night blade i came to your house and you were gone i went looking for you and when i came back you were asleep aswell.

[ImTheCrew]

dola-

sorry guys i havent been around alot, just started a new quarter swamped with work and its hard to get my head into the game but as of right now im almost caught

[ImTheCrew]

what is a nightfall vote?

[Abe Sargent]

No early nightfall when your GM is watching his alma mater in the NIT finals. :)

[hoopsguy]

It basically means that you would support ending the day early - that you are fine with your vote being locked if the moderator honors the nightfall votes by the majority and ends the day.

However, with votes split across Tyrith and Lathum there is not going to be a nightfall today (hope I'm not speaking for Anxiety too much here).

[ImTheCrew]

VOTE LATHUM like i said i went to tryith house on night 1?(2nd night action) and he was asleep so he pretty high on my trust list for now

[Tyrith]

Hoops, more immediate problem is that DT is dead. Well, probably a problem. I don't think Lathum would sacrifice his teammate right now, because I'd just sacrifice myself and have him cornered.

[hoopsguy]

Agreed that we are probably headed in that direction. But we pretty much knew that from about ... oh, maybe thirty seconds after you revealed.

[Blade6119]

UNVOTE LIBERALIZE TYRITH

VOTE LIBERALIZE IMTHECREW

[Tyrith]

Agreed that we are probably headed in that direction. But we pretty much knew that from about ... oh, maybe thirty seconds after you revealed.

Yup. But what else can we do with the rules being as weird as they are.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm dead I guess. I think i've told you everything I know. let me do a quick summary before I go grab coffee:

Tyrith: I tend to believe his reveal in the absence of any other reveals or information at this point.
Blade: Seems to be on the side of good, although one must always remember that he can be dangerously evil.
Hoops: I'd say good.
Lathum: I'd say evil. Last time I felt this sure he was evil, I called him out based on a last-minute vote switch, and I was correct that time.
Chief Rum: Leaning towards bad on my own based on his voting patterns, plus with Blade's thoughts.
ITC: Interesting story he is bringing up here. I honestly would put him right below CR in terms of liklehood to be evil. He could be good and have some sort of role like this, but if you all get to the point of one wolf left, it might be him.
everyone else: no real read.
oh wait...Ironhead: I think is likely good. He's playing a pretty classic newb-game.

that's all I got really. Sorry I couldn't be more help guys. Although i'm sorta honored i've moved into that "to be killed earlier" phase of my WW-career.

[DaddyTorgo]

I want to point out for the record that Blade did that unvote/vote as I was typing up my summary. So that's two of us who are slightly suspicious of ITC.

Could Lathum/ITC/CR be the rest of the 2 original wolves + the convert? could it be that easy??

[Blade6119]

i wouldnt think that he would come out so early... but its possible.... im not a seer but i can visit people at night and first night was cronin and he was asleep then tyrith the next day and he was asleep, the last night blade i came to your house and you were gone i went looking for you and when i came back you were asleep aswell.

This is my problem...my role, which ill reveal now, is one that blocks all night actions. No action, good or evil, is going to work on me. They will be informed they failed, but wont know why. I will have no idea when and if they happen.

I pressed ITC about lathum, as i found it odd ITC got the exact same excuse tyrith did about my where-abouts. Now ITC is saying he actually found me at the end of the night, and i was asleep like the others. My understanding of my role is that there should be no way for him to learn that.

[hoopsguy]

Well this is ending quietly.

[DaddyTorgo]

nice. I'm thinking lathum/itc/cr ought to be the target list for you all

good luck guys!

[Abe Sargent]

Time check

[Abe Sargent]

That's time. Let me count the votes

[Blade6119]

Hoops...thought on my ITC argument?

[Abe Sargent]

Today your new Mark Super VII Quantum E-meter arrived in the mail. You begin to use it on various people, testing it out. You twist the knobs and review the dials. It’s a lot of fun! When you use it on DaddyTorgo, you begin to get…odd…results.

He must be Satanic.

Within seconds the first stone is cast, and more follow with alacrity. One of you moves to protect the E-meter in case a wayward rock would hit it. It does take some time, but after a few moments, he lies dead.

Day Four has Ended. Night Four has begun and will end at 2 am EST Friday.

[Blade6119]

Lathum...were coming for you :)

[hoopsguy]

Hoops...thought on my ITC argument?

Truth be told, I really haven't started formulating second suspects yet - basically just trying to work out the Lathum/Tyrith stuff and will go from there.

In terms of what he saw, or should have seen, why would he give results that differed from expectations? It sounded like he didn't see you, then saw you? Does that make him evil, more than just interpreting a PM poorly?

The fact that DaddyTorgo didn't trust him, was good, and that the two of you are coming around to the same person independently is enough to raise an eyebrow, but I guess I feel like we have bigger fish to fry at the moment.

[ImTheCrew]

Lathum seems like a could vote for tommorow and if he is found good, blade im going for you!

[ImTheCrew]

dola

should be good(not could)

[Tyrith]

I wonder if i'm going to live through the night...I'd probably guess yes, because otherwise it flat sinks Lathum. More scans, though, is fun for everyone.

[ImTheCrew]

im just very curious of blade right now.....

[ImTheCrew]

id actaully rather vote blade than Lathum

[Lathum]

All I can say is Tyrith must have used DT. Votes for me tomorrow are useless since I will remove myself from the list.

I am going to ;ook towards blade and ITC since their stories don't seem to mesh

[ntndeacon]

It looks like someone wants to be scanned looking at ITC's comments.

[Blade6119]

id actaully rather vote blade than Lathum

Thats because i just called you a liar...that tends to turn people's opinions

[ImTheCrew]

i just want to know where you were thats all

[Lathum]

i just want to know where you were thats all

I am curious about that as well

[path12]

id actaully rather vote blade than Lathum

Wow. Not used to being evil, are you? You're next after Lathum in my book.

[ImTheCrew]

Wow. Not used to being evil, are you? You're next after Lathum in my book.

NOPE never been evil, well i was a pickpocketer in the big city but its the lowest you could be.

[Lathum]

Wow. Not used to being evil, are you? You're next after Lathum in my book.

why do you insist on wasting our time?

pursuing me is a feeble endevor

[ImTheCrew]

Wow. Not used to being evil, are you? You're next after Lathum in my book.

i said this after reading Blades post in the "fake reveals" thread

[path12]

why do you insist on wasting our time?

pursuing me is a feeble endevor

You know, this is what makes you such a great wolf in my opinion. You never give up and never stop denying it.

[Lathum]

You know, this is what makes you such a great wolf in my opinion. You never give up and never stop denying it.

yeah except this time I am telling the truth

[path12]

yeah except this time I am telling the truth

Love it!

[Lathum]

Love it!

lol. Someone ( tyrith) took a page from my book. We will all laugh about this in the end.

[Blade6119]

i said this after reading Blades post in the "fake reveals" thread
Everyone knows i love to fake reveal...ill fake reveal as "truth" after getting called out on my original fake reveal.

But that doesnt change the fact that ive hinted at this role all game, have it somewhat backed up by our seer, and you came forward presenting NO new information whatsoever. By the way, read my next post...its a doozy

[hoopsguy]

Was on my way to bed, but sticking around for the "doozy".

[Blade6119]

i wouldnt think that he would come out so early... but its possible.... im not a seer but i can visit people at night and first night was cronin and he was asleep then tyrith the next day and he was asleep, the last night blade i came to your house and you were gone i went looking for you and when i came back you were asleep aswell.

Poor ITC, i just caught you in your lie. This occured on day 4. As per this game, which is where you got tripped up, we had had 4 nights at that time. Night 0, 1, 2, and 3.

As per your post:
Night 0 - Cronin
Night 1 - Tyrith
Night 2 -
Night 3 - Blade

You messed up in your story, you forgot about the extra night. As well, you made the mistake of only "scanning" players who already had information out. You made no effort to take risk, only clear players who were dead or tyrith had scanned. Lastly, if you visited tyrith as you claim you would have found him out and about, looking for me. His role is not one where he sleeps through the night, so that another lie.

Anything i missed dear ITC?

[Abe Sargent]

Once again a body is discovered in the woods. You quickly move to investigate. You find the body of path in the woods near the graves of her husband and son. Some have already begun digging a third grave next to these two.

A bloody branch lies beside her body, leaving no doubt as to her method of death. Her hands are tied together in a praying formation. Her eyes are wide open, and her face is a sign of abject sadness. You see someone try to close her eyes, but they open back up.

At her feet is a disheveled box. You open it up and discover that it is a memento box. She had In it are a bunch of papers and pictures of her memories. Here is her wedding photos, there’s her bacheler’s degree, there’s a birth certificate of her son and picture of his father……

Wait a second….

That’s not his father. Well, it is, but that’s not Peter. The birth certificate says Leroy JENKINS not Leroy Czinski. It still lists her as the mother though. It appears that Leroy was the son of her and a…negro man.

You all just thought Leroy had a nice tan.

How could you have been so blind?

You bury these papers with her.

As you move her body to place her in the newly dug grave, a page of scripture falls to the ground.

2 Thessalonians 1: 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.



Night Four has ended. Day Five has begun and will end at 9 pm Friday.


I’ll also take suggestions for what you folks would like to do over the weekend. Press on, or hold off. Ideas?

[Tyrith]

Sigh, blade, we might have a problem.

Scan ITC. Comes up good.

*shakes head* Perhaps some sort of a bad scan ability? But that's just adding complications. No, I think ITC just screwed up.

[Blade6119]

Tacked on the Church Door is the following sign:

The following people have been labelled as Subversive and Liberal and Unmutual:




Lathum
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VOTE STONE LATHUM

Thank you whoever did that for us :D

[hoopsguy]

Down to eight players, Tyrith and Lathum are still with us. So, any news to report?

[Tyrith]

VOTE STONE LATHUM

[hoopsguy]

VOTE STONE LATHUM

[Blade6119]

Well lathum, you say you can take your name off the list. Lets see what you got buddy :)

[Ironhead]

Anyone have a Staples "Easy" Button?

STONE LATHUM

[Blade6119]

Hoops...im trying to prepare for all angles...what do we do if lathum takes his name off the list? Do we trust him and go after tyrith?

[hoopsguy]

Blade, I don't know that Lathum removing the vote means he is good and Tyrith is bad. I think that what you suggest is the most probable play and likely what I'll do, but I feel much more strongly about Lathum as a wolf than Tyrith.

I'm not going to worry too much about Lathum moving himself off the list until he actually does it.

[Tyrith]

I'd really, really like to get one more scan...but I'll do what the people I trust think I should do.

[Tyrith]

That's assuming Lathum isn't full of it.

[Tyrith]

Dola, Lathum IS full of it, but I'm not sure if he's full of it as it concerns his list removing ability.

[ImTheCrew]

Sigh, blade, we might have a problem.

Scan ITC. Comes up good.

*shakes head* Perhaps some sort of a bad scan ability? But that's just adding complications. No, I think ITC just screwed up.

lol what would be new? heres is what i did

Night 0 no one
Night 1 St Cronin
Night 2 Tyrith
Night 3 Blade

[ImTheCrew]

since hes on the liberal list and low on my trust list

VOTE LATHUM

[Lathum]

I have repeatedly stated my ability is only available during the night phase. The only way for me to demonstrate it is for you all to unvote me and let me prove myself right.

BTW- lets say there was a conversion and there are 3 gays left. That makes it 5-3.

Kill me tonight it's 4-3

Then they have their night kill, have fun losing the game. I wouldn't be surprised if ITC is the last gay and tyrith "cleared " him to cover up.

[hoopsguy]

Lathum, do you know how you ended up on the liberal list overnight? Do you have some kind of liberal leaning that might have been discovered? We obviously know that this is what happened to Daddy Torgo (Fundy) but if it was ever explained how he got on the list I don't recall seeing it.

[Lathum]

Lathum, do you know how you ended up on the liberal list overnight? Do you have some kind of liberal leaning that might have been discovered? We obviously know that this is what happened to Daddy Torgo (Fundy) but if it was ever explained how he got on the list I don't recall seeing it.

I have no clue how I ended up on the list.

[hoopsguy]

I'm guessing that there is a night role out there that has the ability to find liberals (probably includes gays) and puts them on the list automatically.

Note - this is speculation. If I had this kind of role I would have visited Lathum much earlier and would not have visited Daddy Torgo on the night he was on the list (possibly would have the night prior). But I'm trying to make sense of an aspect of the game I don't understand. Might as well do this while we wait for this day to end ...

[Lathum]

I'm guessing that there is a night role out there that has the ability to find liberals (probably includes gays) and puts them on the list automatically.

Note - this is speculation. If I had this kind of role I would have visited Lathum much earlier and would not have visited Daddy Torgo on the night he was on the list (possibly would have the night prior). But I'm trying to make sense of an aspect of the game I don't understand. Might as well do this while we wait for this GAME to end ...

fixed that for you

[hoopsguy]

Weekend play - I'll be pretty sporadic on Saturday with the Final Four games going on that evening and some other stuff earlier in the day.

Also, just wanted to post a reminder that there is a very good chance I'll completely miss out on Monday of next week - depends on how long my seminar lasts that day.

[path12]

Darn it. Good luck to the Fightin' Fundies!

[Tyrith]

Weekend -- processing night by sometime tomorrow afternoon ish then having day phase last through Sunday would be okay by me.

[Ironhead]

No problems for me playing through the weekend.

[Alan T]

I think you all need to play through the weekend so I have something to read while at the hospital!

[Blade6119]

fixed that for you

If you hadnt killed DT against all of our wishes, we wouldnt be in this situation. So if we lose after lynching you, its your fault. I personally dont believe that will happen, and i think we will bag a wolf in you.

[hoopsguy]

VOTE NIGHTFALL

I don't think there is any new info that is likely to come out today. If we are going to be playing through the weekend I'm all for getting a little earlier start on the next day.

[Blade6119]

Vote Nightfall

This is the easiest lynch we have had

[Chief Rum]

VOTE LATHUM

VOTE NIGHTFALL

I can play through the weekend.

[Abe Sargent]

Today would be a day in which I would likely honor a nightfall request. Unanimous, obviously

[ImTheCrew]

VOTE NIGHTFALL


ill be here through weekend

[Lathum]

VOTE NIGHTFALL

[Ironhead]

VOTE NIGHTFALL

[Ironhead]

VOTE NIGHTFALL

Bolded!

[Abe Sargent]

Need two more I beleive - Tyrith and ntndeacon

[ntndeacon]

Vote nightfall

[ntndeacon]

I won't be here most of the weekend, as I have my fantasy baseball draft tomorrow in another city. I should be back on Sunday however.

[hoopsguy]

Need two more I beleive - Tyrith and ntndeacon

I'm guessing the person who is the (self-proclaimed) seer will want a nightfall vote against the person they have declared a member of the gay community.

[Lathum]

I hope all you fucking god loving freaks rot in hell after you have your throats slit and been sodomized while you beg for mercy.

Better make your peace now because you are all going to be murdered and there will be no reprieve.

[Tyrith]

VOTE NIGHTFALL

[hoopsguy]

Wow, that sounded hostile. Lathum, I would wish you peace in the afterlife but the Lord is not a forgiving God for people such as you who have defiled his creation.

[Abe Sargent]

Night will be falling shortly

[Tyrith]

Alas, I suspect this will be the last day I spend among these fair people. But take heart, for the Lord is with us, and will see us through this time of trial!

[path12]

I hope all you fucking god loving freaks rot in hell after you have your throats slit and been sodomized while you beg for mercy.

Better make your peace now because you are all going to be murdered and there will be no reprieve.

Oh my.

[Abe Sargent]

“I defy you,” Lathum spat at your assemblage.

You gathered rocks from the stream as he continued his tirade.

“I have ensured that you will all suffer and pay. I am an adult among children.”

The first rock hits his temple. As a stream of blood rolls down his face, he becomes more and more animated.

“I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.”

The next stone hits him in his stomach, but it does not faze his speech.

“I wanna ride the pony.”

Another rock cracks across his knee, and he falls to the ground, still stanind on his knees. He appears oblivious.

“In fourteen hundred and ninety-two….”

Yet one more stone crash into his nose. You hear an audible crack. His talking becomes a blurble.

“If I should die before I wake…”

One eye is closed from another wound. His left arm hangs limply at his side. One of the villagers hefts a giant stone. As it flies at Lathum’s face, you hear one last phrase.

“Eloi eloi lama sabachthani.”


Day Five has ended. Night Five has begun and will end once I get all of the info in.

[Abe Sargent]

One thing I like as the GM is how much stuff I can fit into one action. It's awesome!

[Tyrith]

*bows*

[hoopsguy]

Eloi eloi lama sabachthani

Hmm, it seems the other way around - that Lathum hath forsaken God.

[st.cronin]

/applauds

[DaddyTorgo]

niiiiice! way to go all!

[Blade6119]

Whoever put DT and Lathum on the list, id reccomend chief for the list tomorrow. He was the most ardent supporter of lathum over the course of the 3 day dance

[Blade6119]

I hope all you fucking god loving freaks rot in hell after you have your throats slit and been sodomized while you beg for mercy.

Better make your peace now because you are all going to be murdered and there will be no reprieve.

Not me, you cant touch me at night :)

[Chief Rum]

Whoever put DT and Lathum on the list, id reccomend chief for the list tomorrow. He was the most ardent supporter of lathum over the course of the 3 day dance

lol

[Blade6119]

lol

Do you want me to go back and quote your posts? Im happy to do so, just say the word.

[Chief Rum]

Do you want me to go back and quote your posts? Im happy to do so, just say the word.

Go for it, if you like. There's no part of my response to you there that disputes what you said. If you thought about it a little more deeply, though, you might see things aren't what they appear to be.

[ntndeacon]

Do you want me to go back and quote your posts? Im happy to do so, just say the word.

I would be interested in that. I was under the impression it was likely that ITC was one of Them.

[ntndeacon]

Ahh. I just went back and read who last night's scan was of. never mind then.

[hoopsguy]

NTN, ITC was cleared by Tyrith last night. So that makes him good in my book, unless we want to start with the unconstested seer who just outted Lathum.

Only seven people left, updated trust list:
Me - 100% vouch for self
Tyrith - looks pretty solid with Lathum outcome
ImTheCrew - Tyrith vouch
Ironclad - big dropoff here from top three, but LSG lynch vote helps with credibility
Blade - neither Tyrith nor Crew able to confirm or deny night whereabouts, has been forthcoming about his "role"
NTN and Chief - less information to work with on both of these guys than other remaining players

[hoopsguy]

FWIW, I wasn't sure about whether to publish that now or wait until later but we are getting late enough in the game that I would rather have the info revealed than not in the event that someone decides to relieve me of my "Monday issue".

Anxiety - any update on the weekend schedule?

[ntndeacon]

NTN, ITC was cleared by Tyrith last night. So that makes him good in my book, unless we want to start with the unconstested seer who just outted Lathum.

Only seven people left, updated trust list:
Me - 100% vouch for self
Tyrith - looks pretty solid with Lathum outcome
ImTheCrew - Tyrith vouch
Ironclad - big dropoff here from top three, but LSG lynch vote helps with credibility
Blade - neither Tyrith nor Crew able to confirm or deny night whereabouts, has been forthcoming about his "role"
NTN and Chief - less information to work with on both of these guys than other remaining players

Yea I saw that after my first post. After I realized that he had been cleared by Tyrith I understood. Just did not catch that in my 1st reading (musta read over it too quick.)

[ntndeacon]

and for what it is worth my trust list

Very trusted:
Tyrith
Hoopsguy
ITC
Somewhat Trusted:
Blade
Neutral:
Ironclad
Don't trust:
ChiefRum

Of course Itrust myself intrinsically. I recognize that you do not have he ability to see into my psyche. So if Iwere to put myself where I believe I am on most people's list it would be in the neuitral category as I have it marked.

[Blade6119]

NTN, Hoops...i believe the name you are looking for is IRONHEAD, not IRONCLAD...lets show the respect due to at least get his name right.

[Blade6119]

Go for it, if you like. There's no part of my response to you there that disputes what you said. If you thought about it a little more deeply, though, you might see things aren't what they appear to be.

Im interested in hearing what im missing...what exactly is not as it appears?

[Chief Rum]

Im interested in hearing what im missing...what exactly is not as it appears?

Ask me again when the night phase is over.

[Blade6119]

We have 4 uncleareds...Myself, Ironhead, NTNdeacon, and chief rum. Of those, i have been scanned twice and got back no results either time.

ITC, you didnt scan the first night but scanned but scanned nights 1-3...who did you scan last night? And who are you scanning tonight(so you and tyrith dont overlap)

[Abe Sargent]

FWIW, I wasn't sure about whether to publish that now or wait until later but we are getting late enough in the game that I would rather have the info revealed than not in the event that someone decides to relieve me of my "Monday issue".

Anxiety - any update on the weekend schedule?

As soon as I get all night actions, I'll run the night. Then I beleive we'll go with an elongated day action over the entire weekend, with a Sunday night deadline.

[ImTheCrew]

We have 4 uncleareds...Myself, Ironhead, NTNdeacon, and chief rum. Of those, i have been scanned twice and got back no results either time.

ITC, you didnt scan the first night but scanned but scanned nights 1-3...who did you scan last night? And who are you scanning tonight(so you and tyrith dont overlap)

last night i scanned Tyrith he came outside at night spotted me and we talked for about 10 mins then he went back to bed

not sure who im scanning tonight ill take any suggestions

[ImTheCrew]

Dola-

since id like to end the night early ive sent my night action in already since i wont be back till about 11 EST

[hoopsguy]

NTN, Hoops...i believe the name you are looking for is IRONHEAD, not IRONCLAD...lets show the respect due to at least get his name right.

Oops. Sorry about that.

[Abe Sargent]

Dawn rises and brings with it another day. Mist sits over Almost Heaven. This morning, you do not hear a scream or a cry for assistance that brings you to a body.

It’s in your own town square that you find Tyrith. His body is tied vertically to a light post with hands outstretched and feet tied together.

At the base of this ramshackle cross is Tyrith’s own bible. His blood underlines the following passage.

Micah 5:15 And I will execute vengeance in anger and fury upon the heathen, such as they have not heard.


Night Five has ended. Day Six begins and ends at 9 pm EST Sunday.

[Blade6119]

last night i scanned Tyrith he came outside at night spotted me and we talked for about 10 mins then he went back to bed

not sure who im scanning tonight ill take any suggestions

You claimed claimed you scanned tyrith already...why would you scan him again?