Werewolf LXXXIX - 30 Days of Night - GAME OVER - VILLAGE WINS!

[The Jackal]

Lynch deadline - 8 PM EST
Night action deadline - 9 AM EST

Votes of no lynch are unacceptable. You don't have the time to waste.

Only the moderator knows what happens in a tie.

ROLES - Note, all roles may not be in the game, depending on amount of players

Light Auras:

Villager - No special abilities, you simply don't mind the cold.

Eben - It is your duty to protect your family and this town. Every night you may inspect one player to look for the Master Vampire. You will only be told if you find him. If attacked by the Master Vampire at night - you both will die. You may also PM with Stella, your estranged wife.

Stella - Work has brought you back to this town at a most unfortunate time. When there is danger, cling to familiarity. You have no special powers other than being able to PM with your estranged husband, Eben.

Beau (Bodyguard) - You're a tough sumbitch who's lived out here for longer than most, and you haven't come across anything you couldn't kill. That'll change very soon, but perhaps you can offer some protection while the threat lasts. Each night you may choose one person to protect, but never the same person twice in a row.

Helen (Seer) - You've seen many years and people pass by in this cold little town. Each night, as part of your cancer treatment, you indulge in a bit of medicated leaf. During these trances you may choose one player to inspect and will be told if they have a light or dark aura.

Mayor - You've governed this town for a short time, and already a catastrophe. Nevertheless, the people elected you for a reason - you've lived here your whole life and know the way the cold, and people tick. Once during the game you may change a lynch vote to your desired result.

Dark Auras:

Vampire - You kill without prejudice, following the orders of your Master. There is no need to expand your ranks, so you will separate everyone's head that you attack. Each night you confer with the other vampires to decide on a victim.

Vampire Mistress - You were once a beautiful, cunning, young woman, and you've lost none of these traits in your transformation. If viewed by the seer at night, you will interfere with her vision and be seen as having a light aura. Each night you confer with the other vampires to decide on a victim.

Master Vampire - This town seems perfect for you. Cutoff from everything. Plenty of fresh blood. You and your minions will lay waste, preferably without interference. Should there be any attempts to stop you, it will prove difficult. If you are chosen to be lynched you may take any player to the grave with you.

The Stranger (Sorceror) - You have been watching the vampires from afar, cursed by remaining so close to them. You know their identities and have no qualms in watching them destroy these townsfolk as you slowly lose your attachment to humanity.

[The Jackal]

Participants:

I. Peregrine
II. claphamsa
III. Passacaglia
IV. DaddyTorgo - killed night 1 - Helen, the Seer
V. Danny - killed night 3 - Eben
VI. Telle
VII. PurdueBrad - lynched day 1 - The Stranger
VIII. Poli
IX. dubb93
X. Chief Rum - killed by Eben night 3 - Master Vampire
XI. EagleFan - killed night 2 - villager
XII. KWhit
XIII. Abe Sargent - lynched day 3 - Vampire Mistress
XIV. Schmidty - lynched day 4 - Vampire

[Peregrine]

I'm in.

[claphamsa]

in!

[Passacaglia]

Yayzers! Count me in.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm in. i'd much rather the lynch deadline was 8pm EST though, as I am commuting home from 5-6:30pm EST everyday. I can vote on my phone if need be, but it's hard to follow along with deadline-type activity on my phone

[Danny]

I'll join

[Telle]

I'm in. I probably won't be around at deadline though since that's "school time" with my kids.

[The Jackal]

So there's the basic role list down. I may tweak roles or add new roles depending on how many people we get to make sure the powers are balanced. Would love to get 10-15 but we'll run whenever it looks like we've capped.

[PurdueBrad]

I'm in as well

[Poli]

<--- Inn.

[dubb93]

I'll play.

[Danny]

Sweet, glad to see you guys are playing in the game.

[The Jackal]

Aiming for a Wednesday Morning start.

[Chief Rum]

I'll play if there's room.

[EagleFan]

In

[EagleFan]

dola: can I vote for PB yet? :)

[KWhit]

I'll play.

[Abe Sargent]

Im in

[The Jackal]

Certainly no cap on players - but I'll end signups this evening and get roles out tonight or tomorrow morning with the first deadline tomorrow evening at 8.

[Danny]

13 so far, maybe a couple more sign ups tonight before starting tomorrow?

[Poli]

You mean this isn't a dungeon game?

[Schmidty]

I guess I'll come out of retirement.

[EagleFan]

I guess I'll come out of retirement.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[dubb93]

I guess I'll come out of retirement.

Oh oh oh, love playing with Schmidty even if at some point it always leads to one of us pissing the other off. Normally leads to atleast one day where the only choice is either him or me.:lol:

[The Jackal]

Signups certainly open throughout the evening.

[Passacaglia]

Signups certainly open throughout the evening.

I'll play.

[Danny]

You signed up in post #5 too

[The Jackal]

I'm guessing that was a bit of the old British wit.

[Poli]

Danny's British? G'day, mate.

[Poli]

Is it too early to declare myself a friendly villager?

[claphamsa]

yes

vote poli

Higly suspicious

[Passacaglia]

I think I'm the one that's British.

[Danny]

I'm going to vote to lynch the British player

[The Jackal]

Working up the roles.

[DaddyTorgo]

GOT MY ROLE!

[Passacaglia]

Villager in the flat. I mean house!!

[claphamsa]

we havent been told its ok to post! pipe down yalls!

[The Jackal]

Barrow, Alaska.

Every winter the sun sets and doesn't rise again for 30 days. Some of you were born here - some moved for the privacy. And some of you don't belong, not in the town, not amongst the human race.

Heavy snows block the roads. Telephone communications are down.

A heavy snowstorm dies down. A lone scream penetrates the silent chill of winter. Rushing to the middle of town you find two pipeline workers, their heads severed from their bodies.

Your only choice is to figure out who amongst you could have done such an unspeakable act - because you are stuck here for 30 days of night.

[The Jackal]

All roles are out, have at it.

[DaddyTorgo]

*has at it*

[DaddyTorgo]

Lathum's not playing??

So I guess the odds of him being a wolf in this game really are zero?

[DaddyTorgo]

Can anyone tell me where the bar is? If people are going to be getting killed I want to get loaded.

[The Jackal]

Can anyone tell me where the bar is? If people are going to be getting killed I want to get loaded.

If I'm being true to the movie, liquor is banned during the month. You'll have to find your own stash of moonshine.

[DaddyTorgo]

If I'm being true to the movie, liquor is banned during the month. You'll have to find your own stash of moonshine.

*digging around for it*

miserable fucking town!

[claphamsa]

A town with no loquacity? wow....

villegar here!

[Poli]

I think I'm the one that's British.
But you're not British.

[Passacaglia]

But you're not British.

Oh, sorry. I meant to say:

I think I'm the one that's British. Cheers!

[claphamsa]

Its been so long Im almost forgettgin what to do :)

[Passacaglia]

Hey, what happened to Hannibal?

[claphamsa]

I had to clear cookies, and im too lazy to reset my password :)

[PurdueBrad]

Damn, ALASKA?!?! That's freaking cold. But hey, whatever. Checking in. Will be in and out some today (wife has a dr.'s appointment but should be back around deadline).

[Poli]

I had to clear cookies, and im too lazy to reset my password :)
http://www.freebietrader.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/delete-cookies.jpg

[Schmidty]

Its been so long Im almost forgettgin what to do :)

Me too.

[DaddyTorgo]

ooooh the original clappy!!!

win for poli on the pic

[PurdueBrad]

Nice pic Poli!

[Peregrine]

Wait, cold and no liquor? Remind me why I moved here again?

[claphamsa]

Wait, cold and no liquor? Remind me why I moved here again?
women who REAL REALLY need their beds warmed up?

[claphamsa]

ok, we need to get this party started! follow my logic please!

Pass coaches UAB, which beat Minnesota. which would have a pretty good shot at the playoffs had UAB not beaten them. Therefore pass is a wolf!

vote passacaligula!

[Peregrine]

Sounds like pretty shaky logic to me, but then again I'm not drunk so I may be surly and have poor decision making ability.

[PurdueBrad]

Screw that, on day one, I might as well vote for the guy that made me post in pink for a week.

vote Abe

[claphamsa]

Sounds like pretty shaky logic to me, but then again I'm not drunk so I may be surly and have poor decision making ability.
well get drinking!!!!

[claphamsa]

Screw that, on day one, I might as well vote for the guy that made me post in pink for a week.

vote Abe
I find no flaw in this logic!

[Danny]

We have 14 players in the game. My guess is we have three wolves. I don't think there would be 4 wolves here, but the number of players is kind of between 3 and 4, but since one is cunning, one brutal and a sorcerer, I think three is more likely.

[Danny]

First deadline is tonight right?

[The Jackal]

First deadline is tonight right?


Yes. Tonight at 8 EST.

[KWhit]

Checking in. I'm just a villager (I know, that's what they ALL say...)

[Danny]

It's going to be a hard day one vote. So many players who haven't played in a while, I don't want to send out any on day one.

[Danny]

If it comes down to it, I will probably just vote Kwhit for beating me to 10 in the Dungeon game. Hopefully I can make my vote based on something more by the time we get closer to deadline though.

[KWhit]

Bah!

[Poli]

VOTE PEREGRINE

For being the first person to be in the game. Plus, he's probably the only person I have made angry at some point...and even then, that might be a stretch.

[Schmidty]

Vote Poli

Just like old times!!! :)

[Poli]

POLI SMASH

[Passacaglia]

VOTE PEREGRINE

For being the first person to be in the game. Plus, he's probably the only person I have made angry at some point...and even then, that might be a stretch.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Poli]

OOPS. I meant "haven't made angry"

Too bad I can't edit that.

[claphamsa]

Poli... never made me mad :)

[Schmidty]

OOPS. I meant "haven't made angry"

Too bad I can't edit that.

I don't think I've ever had a spat with you.

[Poli]

Pfft.

[Abe Sargent]

Hello all!

[Abe Sargent]

Damn, ALASKA?!?! That's freaking cold. But hey, whatever. Checking in. Will be in and out some today (wife has a dr.'s appointment but should be back around deadline).

But beautiful! I'm planning a trip to Seward this summer.

[Abe Sargent]

Screw that, on day one, I might as well vote for the guy that made me post in pink for a week.

vote Abe

I love you too!

[Abe Sargent]

Wow - Chief Rum spotting at 4:40 during the afternoon! When do you sleep?

[Telle]

Villager checking in.

[Chief Rum]

Well, sheesh, I ain't in the Phillipines or nuttin'. Although California is pretty weird for somayuze folk.

Checking in, villagerino.

Glad I checked in, otherwise I would have missed the first day entirely. Also glad I found a workaround to get here from work, although I don't plan to spend all day posting or whatever.

Not sure where to put my vote. Of course, we got nothing at this point anyway. I'll throw a vote out before I leave for my other job.

[dubb93]

Villager here. This is great place to live you know...other than the dead bodies. I really don't mind the cold at all.

[Telle]

I need to throw in a quick vote before leaving work, as I won't be back on again before deadline.

Since we have four people voted for I think it's time to start doubling up rather than spreading out the field farther.

VOTE ABE SARGENT

[Danny]

I bet one of you three are lying!

[The Jackal]

Abe Sargent 2 (PurdueBrad 61, Telle 86)
Passacaglia 1 (claphamsa 59)
Peregrine 1 (Poli 71)
Poli 1 (Schmidty 72)

[Danny]

I am always suspicious of someone who puts the second vote on someone, but at this point not sure there was another great option.

[dubb93]

Vote PurdueBrad Just something that he said that doesn't vibe well with me.

[Schmidty]

I should have voted for dubb so we could start the fireworks sooner. :)

[Danny]

Vote PurdueBrad Just something that he said that doesn't vibe well with me.

What did he say?

[Poli]

"Nice pic Poli"

[Danny]

Out of the current candidates I'm leaning towards Pass or PB.

[dubb93]

What did he say?

Not a whole lot except complaining about the cold weather in Alaska. Of course that doesn't vibe well with me since I was told I don't mind the cold weather here. It is enough for me on day 1.

[Danny]

Vote PurdueBrad

I don't like many of other choices at this point. Would be open to switching, but if PB turns out bad, I wouldn't be surprised if Dubb was throwing a wolf-wolf vote here in day one.

[dubb93]

Nice strat Danny. Vote PB and if he is good I'm bad because I started the vote. If he is bad I'm bad because I was doing a wolf-wolf vote. You seem to have me on a very slippery slope here Danny.

[Danny]

Nice strat Danny. Vote PB and if he is good I'm bad because I started the vote. If he is bad I'm bad because I was doing a wolf-wolf vote. You seem to have me on a very slippery slope here Danny.

Actually, if he is good, I think you look better. There is certainly one if not multiple good people with votes already on them. If you were a wolf, why throw a vote on someone new and potentially stand out?

[Peregrine]

I should say I'm a villager, by the way. I haven't played with some of you before and haven't played in a long time, so it may take me a while to get going here. As usual, not much to go on on the first day.

[Danny]

I should say I'm a villager, by the way. I haven't played with some of you before and haven't played in a long time, so it may take me a while to get going here. As usual, not much to go on on the first day.

One of these days, we need a rampaging villager in a werewolf society game, so everyone can come out and claim to be a wolf. It would be funny to see 10+ "Wolf checking in" posts.

[Peregrine]

Yeah the whole villager checking in thing started small, then got bigger, and the first time people started accusing someone because he didn't "check in" became semi-mandatory.

[Danny]

Yeah the whole villager checking in thing started small, then got bigger, and the first time people started accusing someone because he didn't "check in" became semi-mandatory.

I did it for my first few games, but stopped doing it. I haven't been a wolf in about 10 games or so, so it was never an issue to stop.

[Abe Sargent]

Yeah the whole villager checking in thing started small, then got bigger, and the first time people started accusing someone because he didn't "check in" became semi-mandatory.

I have never checked in ever. It's dumb. If by checking in you mean "Villager Here" statement at the beginning.

[Danny]

I have never checked in ever. It's dumb. If by checking in you mean "Villager Here" statement at the beginning.

Wolf!

[Peregrine]

I'm going to cast a vote for someone who hasn't posted yet:

vote Eaglefan

[Danny]

Hmm, didn't even notice that. I'm not opposed to lynching someone inactive on day one, but if EF was a wolf and knew about it, he would be posting a fair amount.

[DaddyTorgo]

do we have a vote count? I will probably just vote from my cellphone here in a few as I have an 8:30 conf call with singapore

[Danny]

Abe Sargent 2 (PurdueBrad 61, Telle 86)
PurdueBrad 2 (Dubb, Danny)
Passacaglia 1 (claphamsa 59)
Peregrine 1 (Poli 71)
Poli 1 (Schmidty 72)
EagleFan 1 (Peregrine)

[Danny]

Yet to vote
EagleFan, DaddyTorgo, Chief Rum, Kwhit, Pass, Abe

[The Jackal]

Danny's vote count is correct.

[DaddyTorgo]

do we have a vote count? id hate to be accused of tossing a throwaway vote and im voting from my cell cuz I have an 8:30 pm conf call and still need dinner

[The Jackal]

Abe Sargent 2 (PurdueBrad 61, Telle 86)
PurdueBrad 2 (dubb93 90, Danny 96)
Passacaglia 1 (claphamsa 59)
Peregrine 1 (Poli 71)
Poli 1 (Schmidty 72)
EagleFan 1 (Peregrine 105)

[Danny]

do we have a vote count? id hate to be accused of tossing a throwaway vote and im voting from my cell cuz I have an 8:30 pm conf call and still need dinner

Read a couple posts up

[Abe Sargent]

Obligatory SD vote

Vote PurdueBrad

[Abe Sargent]

Sorry, forgot teh bold

Vote PurdueBrad

[PurdueBrad]

Wow, happy 'cause it's in the 50's here and didn't want to think about cold weather starts a run on me. Hmmm, that'll teach me!

[DaddyTorgo]

lets see what this does - force some people to put themselves out there

VOE ABE SARGENT

[Danny]

Still 4 who haven't voted with 20 minutes left.

[Abe Sargent]

PB if I die because you initially voted for me cause of last game, I swear, just wait until you see the curse I fling your way in the next Dungeon! ;)

[The Jackal]

PurdueBrad 3 (dubb93 90, Danny 96, Abe Sargent 115)
Abe Sargent 3 (PurdueBrad 61, Telle 86, DaddyTorgo 117)
Passacaglia 1 (claphamsa 59)
Peregrine 1 (Poli 71)
Poli 1 (Schmidty 72)
EagleFan 1 (Peregrine 105)

[Danny]

4 who haven't voted :(

[Passacaglia]

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

[Danny]

Any reason why you completely avoided a meaningful vote?

[KWhit]

Vote PurdueBrad.

[KWhit]

Note:

The reason I voted for him is I'd hate to have Abe go on the first day since he just busted his ass running the great dungeon game. Sorry PB.

[The Jackal]

deadline

[The Jackal]

PurdueBrad 4 (dubb93 90, Danny 96, Abe Sargent 115, KWhit 124)
Abe Sargent 3 (PurdueBrad 61, Telle 86, DaddyTorgo 117)
Passacaglia 1 (claphamsa 59)
Peregrine 1 (Poli 71)
Poli 1 (Schmidty 72)
EagleFan 1 (Peregrine 105)
claphamsa 1 (Passacaglia 122)

[The Jackal]

PurdueBrad is led to the center of town, where a crude guillotine has been erected.

As his head is fastened in, he struggles mightily and begins frothing at the mouth.

"YOU'RE DEAD! YOU'RE ALL DEAD!!"

Chop.

PurdueBrad was The Stranger!

[Passacaglia]

Any reason why you completely avoided a meaningful vote?

Cuz I'm a big chicken?

[Poli]

Wow.

[Passacaglia]

Nice result!

[KWhit]

Yay!

[Danny]

Nice! PB with an early vote on Abe and didn't fight his lynching at all with Abe as the other vote getter. Maybe PB was trying to send a signal to Abe and didn't want to fight his lynch since a wolf was the other option?

Or did he make sure to put his vote on a non wolf?

[KWhit]

I have forgotten the details of the sorcerer role. Did the wolves know his identity?

[Danny]

The role doesn't say, but generally wolves don't know the identity of the sorcerer, so as far as the wolves knew, PB was a villager. So even though the result was good, this doesn't clear Abe, Kwhit or I at all.

[Danny]

At least in the game I have played in, has anyone played in a game where the sorcerer knew the wolves and the wolves knew the sorcerer too?

[Abe Sargent]

The role doesn't say, but generally wolves don't know the identity of the sorcerer, so as far as the wolves knew, PB was a villager. So even though the result was good, this doesn't clear Abe, Kwhit or I at all.

True.

[Danny]

games

[Danny]

I'd like to see the seer scan Abe to clear up that situation.

[Abe Sargent]

I'd like to see the seer scan Abe to clear up that situation.

From the rules:


Vampire Mistress - You were once a beautiful, cunning, young woman, and you've lost none of these traits in your transformation. If viewed by the seer at night, you will interfere with her vision and be seen as having a light aura. Each night you confer with the other vampires to decide on a victim.

[Abe Sargent]

Ergo, if that role is in the game, no one can be sure of a scan. The role might not even be IN the game, and we can;t be sure.

[Danny]

It doesn't clear it up totally, but it does as much as any other scan.

[Danny]

Ergo, if that role is in the game, no one can be sure of a scan. The role might not even be IN the game, and we can;t be sure.

Based on the numbers, it probably is. I think Jackal had to go 3 wolves with the rolled one or 4 with two non rolled wolves. The 3 wolves with a cunning seems more likely.

[Abe Sargent]

is there a WW resoruce anywhere on the net where it does the math for you? If you have x player sthen you should have y wolves, or anything like that?

[The Jackal]

It's a standard sorceror role. Wolves do not know the identity prior to the game.

[KWhit]

I'd like to see the seer scan Abe to clear up that situation.

I disagree. I think that the votes today put Abe in a slightly more trustworthy position than anyone else. Slightly.

Since the 2nd vote for him came really early in the day, PB had plenty of time to move his vote off of Abe if he were a wolf.

So I think the seer would have a slightly better chance of getting a wolf if he scanned someone else tonight.

Then again, it could be one of those rare situations when we have 2 bad guys as leading vote getters on day one and I could be totally wrong.

[Danny]

is there a WW resoruce anywhere on the net where it does the math for you? If you have x player sthen you should have y wolves, or anything like that?

I'm just going based on my experience, but 4 wolves and a sorcerer is overboard. You go 2 days without lynching a baddie and all of a sudden it's a 5-5 game. That's too extreme.

[Danny]

I disagree. I think that the votes today put Abe in a slightly more trustworthy position than anyone else. Slightly.

Since the 2nd vote for him came really early in the day, PB had plenty of time to move his vote off of Abe if he were a wolf.

So I think the seer would have a slightly better chance of getting a wolf if he scanned someone else tonight.

Then again, it could be one of those rare situations when we have 2 bad guys as leading vote getters on day one and I could be totally wrong.

That's a good point.

[EagleFan]

Sorry, have been sleeping most of the day (worked overnight last night) and actually forgot the game was starting today. Sort of a good day one result, but not really. It removes the confusion factor but it still counts against our numbers.

Basing ths on my play when I had that role before I would scan Abe tonight, whoever the seer is. Completely vanilla here. When I had that role I did a quick vote for a wolf on day one to try to get their attention (kind of an "I know who you are" vote). I also tried to reference another wolf within a post (not accusing, just mention to again try to convey that I knew who they were if they picked up on it).

Sorry that I missed the deadline. As for who I would have vote for, PB is usually my day one fallback and based on his vote today I don't see any reason why I would have changed that (though I was actually thinking of voting someone else to give him a break prior to the game starting).

[Danny]

I do see Kwhit's point, but I don't understand why PB wouldn't have fought his lynch at all unless he was going up against a wolf.

[EagleFan]

I disagree. I think that the votes today put Abe in a slightly more trustworthy position than anyone else. Slightly.

Since the 2nd vote for him came really early in the day, PB had plenty of time to move his vote off of Abe if he were a wolf.

So I think the seer would have a slightly better chance of getting a wolf if he scanned someone else tonight.

Then again, it could be one of those rare situations when we have 2 bad guys as leading vote getters on day one and I could be totally wrong.

All the more reason for PB to leave his vote if Abe is a wolf. If he makes a late switch it makes both of them look bad. With PB being the leading vote getter there is no reason for him to move his vote as his "death" helps the wolves in a way.

Personally this post alone makes me wonder about KWhit at this point. Hopefully he's just using misguided logic. :)

[Schmidty]

Too bad we didn't get a wolf, but getting the sorcerer is a nice bit of conciliation.

[Abe Sargent]

Frankly, Passa still hasn;t explained his late meaningless vote has he?

[Passacaglia]

Frankly, Passa still hasn;t explained his late meaningless vote has he?

I said I was big chicken, meaning I was afraid to choose wrong.

[Danny]

Not normally like you

[Passacaglia]

Not normally like you

Really? What am I normally like?

[Danny]

Really? What am I normally like?

Not chicken :p

[Passacaglia]

Not chicken :p

You must be thinking of the wrong guy!

[Poli]

I thought you were normally British.

[Passacaglia]

I guess that means I'm a British chicken.

[Peregrine]

Well nailing the sorceror is pretty good - and now we can get down to the real business of killing wolves. I have to say the timing of the last three votes by Abe, DT, and Kwhit seems pretty interesting, I'll have to think about what it means.

[Abe Sargent]

Feb 9 - Dar Ja’al expands’al

Feb 22 - Figuig converts to Shiite

Mar 13 - Grain in Dar Ja’al

Apr 21 - Dar Ja’al expands

June 1 - NLD - Kordofan, next to Dar Ja’al and Dar Nuba. I believe is the final undiscovered province in l’Afrique

July 19 - This time I decline Venice’s alliance offer.

Oct 16 - Dar Ja’al expands

Feb 2, 1697 - The Tax Assessors look to be a real help in fighting the inflation bug.

Apr 25 - Tripoli rejects our annexation request

May 26 - Gift Sent

Junt 27 - Gift sent

Sept 6 - Masapa Converts!

Sept 17 - Dar Ja‘al expands

Oct 1 - Tripoli again rejects our annexation offer.

Nov 3 - Gift

Dec 4 - Gift

Jan 11, 1698 - I order level 2 fort in Tangiers and Ceuta. Level 4s in Kabylia and Ak-Djazair and Oran

Mar 6 - Tripoli rejects our kind offer again

Mar 31 - Leve 4 fort gained in Cairo.

Apr 7 - Gift to Tripoli and Missionary to Malindi

May 8 - Gift

May 24 - Sliders time. I move one Centralization and get a small pretender rebellion in Whydah

July 9 - Ag Rev in Fazughli

Sept 15 - Rebels defeated

Sept 18 - Dar Ja’al expands

Dec 1 - Production Tech Increases

Feb 1, 1699 - Tripoli accepts our offer.

I destroy the COT in Tripolitania.


Tripolitania - This port of 108634 Tuareg Sunni ivory traders makes us 32.39 ducats annually. There is a temple, regimental camp, workshop and courthouse here. I order a marketplace. Gabes and Gafsa are to the west and Sirt is to the east.

Sirt - 11073 shepherds make us 20.90. The Tuareg Sunnis have a textile manufactory, and the exact same buildings as Tripolitania after that. I order a level 3 fort built here.

Morocco is the only power left with any mainland provinces, although I consider Socotra and Madeira to be gettable as well, plus Madina.

[Abe Sargent]

Whoops. I'd delete this but it's probably not allowed. I thought this was the dynasty thread up and ready for my next post....

[Schmidty]

Weirdest WW post ever.

[Danny]

Weirdest post ever.

Fixed!

[EagleFan]

Fixed!

+1

[EagleFan]

dola: Was in serious WTF mode when reading that...

[EagleFan]

Abe's really trying to throw us off his trail by confusing the hell out of us. :)

[Danny]

I'm so sleepy. I'm finishing up two big assignments that I have to turn in tomorrow night. I'm going to call into work sick as I probably won't finish for 5-6 more hours and will need some sleep before class.

At least one is an ungraded draft, but it's a really important assignment really trying to help a kid, so I want to get everything I have well laid out, so the professor can help guide me on where to go for the most important part coming up.

[dubb93]

Well I knew he couldn't have gotten a PM similar to mine which set off bells in my head. Too bad he wasn't a vamp but it was a good day 1 vote all things considered.

[Danny]

Well I knew he couldn't have gotten a PM similar to mine which set off bells in my head. Too bad he wasn't a vamp but it was a good day 1 vote all things considered.

I missed this, what was discussion of PM's?

[dubb93]

Not a whole lot except complaining about the cold weather in Alaska. Of course that doesn't vibe well with me since I was told I don't mind the cold weather here. It is enough for me on day 1.

.

[Danny]

Oh ok, I see his post now.

[Chief Rum]

Okay, I screwed up today, finishing up a file at work (Job #1). Finishing it ran me over on time, and I had to finish it because I am off the next two days. And I had to get to work (Job #2).

So in all the hubbub, I just flat forgot to check back in and vote. I was midway through my shift at Job #2 when I had one of those "Oh sh..!" moments. If I end up lynched for that, fair game, crappy as that would be.

Interesting Day One. Getting the sorcerer is a mixed result. Better than lynching a villager, and that's with us shooting in the dark, really. So it's hard to complain. But as Schmidty noted, doesn't really improve the situation either.

You have to view Abe with suspicion at this point, given PB's vote. Or at least a "person of interest". Whatever he is, the fact the Sorcerer voted for him, and it was a close vote, definitely makes him a guy we should look at. I don't know yet if that means we can depend on a scan, or if we'll have to clear him the ole fashioned way.

Pass's lack of meaningful vote stands out, too. His given reason is weak, IMO. But that's also not exactly the sorta spot a wolf makes a save vote (being near deadline with a lynch in the offing). Would a smart wolf even bother to try to save a wolf on the block in that situation? Pass is smart--I'm not sure he would make that move as a wolf.

But, hey, it's Day One. What the heck do we know?

FTR, I have no idea who I would have voted for. I would have been inclined to not vote for Abe for the same meta-game reason as others, noting he ran a terrific Dungeon game, and I wouldn't want to bump him out so quick, so I suppose I would have voted for PB by default. But I didn't see anything wolfy in PB's posts or nothing.

[claphamsa]

Nice one abe....

[Peregrine]

Interesting that DT forced a tie with a late vote. Of course forcing a tie can shake things up, but doing it with only 20 minutes left in the voting seems a bit iffy to me.

Of course if DT is a wolf, he wouldn't have known the identity of the sorceror, but still...

[DaddyTorgo]

Interesting that DT forced a tie with a late vote. Of course forcing a tie can shake things up, but doing it with only 20 minutes left in the voting seems a bit iffy to me.

Of course if DT is a wolf, he wouldn't have known the identity of the sorceror, but still...

Not that interesting - i stated in my post why i was doing it. and with 3 left to vote and others online i was sure the tie wouldn't stand

[Abe Sargent]

Nice one abe....

Thanks!

[The Jackal]

You awake and congregate at the bar (with no liquor!). Someone's missing.

DaddyTorgo.

You investigate DT's house and find quite the extensive greenhouse with an array of interesting smelling plants. A blood trail leads you to the back door, where the head of DT remains, frozen in its last view.

DaddyTorgo was Helen, the Seer!

[claphamsa]

well.... that sucks!

[DaddyTorgo]

SUCK...ASS.

good luck villagers!

[KWhit]

Ouch.

[KWhit]

And Dubb, I totally get what you're talking about.

I dunno how cool that strategy is, so I don't want to say more, but you're a solid villager in my book.

[Passacaglia]

And Dubb, I totally get what you're talking about.

I dunno how cool that strategy is, so I don't want to say more, but you're a solid villager in my book.

I think it's fine. If the GM wanted stop us from doing it, he could have just left it out of the PM.

[Poli]

Wow. That...really sucks.

[claphamsa]

hmm, i need to go read my pm closer so I dont get offed!

[claphamsa]

There is a reason my pms are minimalist when I GM....

[Abe Sargent]

OUCH! Sucks.

[Poli]

I think we're going to be calling this 30 days of suck very soon.

[DaddyTorgo]

i didn't even get results of my scan before i got chomped :-(

[Danny]

Well that sucks

[Danny]

No scan unfortunately, but still I want to fight out one way or the other.

Vote Abe Sargent

[Danny]

No scan unfortunately, but still I want to find out one way or the other.

Vote Abe Sargent


Fixed

[Chief Rum]

Hrm...not exactly the start we were looking for.

Is it just me, or does it seem like the Seer has bought it or been revealed on Day one, like, several games in a row? Weird...I wonder if the wolves picked up on something from DT. I don't recall anything specific myself, but then I was rushing through the thread late last night.

I think I would go with the Abe vote right now, given few good other choices, although since he already has a vote, I will hold off until later. I want to see if we have anything else that might come to light.

[Poli]

VOTE ABE SARGEANT

In case I forget later.

[Peregrine]

Well, that sucks. Obviously I was wrong about DT's last minute vote.

[Danny]

Well, that sucks. Obviously I was wrong about DT's last minute vote.

It's meta game, but he's dead now so it doesn't matter. He voted from his cell phone and I don't think gave much thought to it.

[Schmidty]

Well, this is a disaster.

[EagleFan]

vote Abe

Might as well test the theory that PB played it like I would have.

Granted, this probably looks like a pile on vote but with my work schedule being crazy the last few days I have no idea how often I can check back in and a second no vote doesn't do me, or the village, any good as it simply sets me up for a no vote lynch.

[Abe Sargent]

Sigh

Sucks that they killed the seer even more for me :(

[Abe Sargent]

I have a parent presentation from 5-8, and I have to get ready for it soon. I won't be back later.

Vote Passacaglia

See ya all later.

[The Jackal]

Vote Count:

Abe Sargent 3 (Danny 192, Poli 195, EF 199)
Passacaglia 1 (Abe 201)

[dubb93]

Vote Danny

I made my mind up yesterday this would be my vote today. I see nothing today that has changed my mind at all. I just don't like how he played my vote for PB yesterday into to turning me into a vamp no matter how PB ended up turning out. Was a very devious play and one I myself may have made if I was on the side of no good.

[Danny]

Vote Danny

I made my mind up yesterday this would be my vote today. I see nothing today that has changed my mind at all. I just don't like how he played my vote for PB yesterday into to turning me into a vamp no matter how PB ended up turning out. Was a very devious play and one I myself may have made if I was on the side of no good.

Actually, I said I felt fine of you if PB turned out good which he did (at least from the perspective of the wolves). You are the one who who assumed I was trying to make you look wolfish either way. I said to the contrary.

[Passacaglia]

Vote Danny

I made my mind up yesterday this would be my vote today. I see nothing today that has changed my mind at all. I just don't like how he played my vote for PB yesterday into to turning me into a vamp no matter how PB ended up turning out. Was a very devious play and one I myself may have made if I was on the side of no good.

dubb, can you expand on that a little? I didn't notice him doing that.

[Passacaglia]

Actually, I said I felt fine of you if PB turned out good which he did (at least from the perspective of the wolves). You are the one who who assumed I was trying to make you look wolfish either way. I said to the contrary.

What do you mean by this?

[Danny]

He's referring to this

Vote PurdueBrad

I don't like many of other choices at this point. Would be open to switching, but if PB turns out bad, I wouldn't be surprised if Dubb was throwing a wolf-wolf vote here in day one.

Nice strat Danny. Vote PB and if he is good I'm bad because I started the vote. If he is bad I'm bad because I was doing a wolf-wolf vote. You seem to have me on a very slippery slope here Danny.

Actually, if he is good, I think you look better. There is certainly one if not multiple good people with votes already on them. If you were a wolf, why throw a vote on someone new and potentially stand out?

[Poli]

I don't know dubb. If danny wouldn't have pointed that out, I might have. I mean, I've been afraid to point this out, but my PM didn't say anything about me liking or disliking the cold weather.

Take that for what it's worth.

[claphamsa]

Im gonna put down a vote, Im having major car issues.... so im not sure how much ill be home tongiht.

vote danny

[claphamsa]

ps i dont like the first 3 votes cast all on abe... he may be bad, but lets at least make ashow of it!

[Passacaglia]

He's referring to this

Thanks, Danny. So why wouldn't you have been surprised if dubb was throwing a wolf-wolf vote? I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that.

[Danny]

A second candidate in the voting usually proves helpful later in the game for voting records, so I have no problem with Clap's vote. Of course, wish I wasn't the second candidate :)

[Danny]

Thanks, Danny. So why wouldn't you have been surprised if dubb was throwing a wolf-wolf vote? I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that.

At the time that Dubb voted PB, there were four other people with votes on them. Odds are at least two or three of them were good. That could be a vote to help later in the event one of the wolves is caught to build trust by someone being able to say that either a wolf voted for me or I voted a wolf. Wolves seem to do this a lot. And because there were so many other places to vote, at the time it appeared to be a safe wolf-wolf vote.

[Danny]

Of course, it's all moot because PB was not a wolf.

[Danny]

Abe is leaving soon, and I will be gone and hour and a half before deadline, so ideally most of the action would take place while we both are online.

[Abe Sargent]

I'm leaving in 10 minutes. Since Danny has votes, this is a mere self defense move.

Unvote Passacaglia
Vote Danny

[Abe Sargent]

Supposed to be bolded, but instead I think I made it Black type...


Unvote Passacaglia
Vote Danny

[dubb93]

It should also be noted since Danny just loves to point out wolf-wolf vote situations that at the time Danny cast his vote for PB yesterday Abe had 2 votes on him. When Danny cast the second second vote he made it so Abe was no longer in the lead. Again not much but a potential link between the two since Danny was so happy to point out a non-existent link between myself and PB yesterday.

[dubb93]

I don't know dubb. If danny wouldn't have pointed that out, I might have. I mean, I've been afraid to point this out, but my PM didn't say anything about me liking or disliking the cold weather.

Take that for what it's worth.

VAMP!!!! :p

[The Jackal]

Abe Sargent 3 (Danny 192, Poli 195, EF 199)
Danny 3 (dubb 203, clap 209, Abe 217)

[Schmidty]

I haven't heard any good evidence on Abe, so I'm leaning toward Danny or dubb.

[Danny]

It should also be noted since Danny just loves to point out wolf-wolf vote situations that at the time Danny cast his vote for PB yesterday Abe had 2 votes on him. When Danny cast the second second vote he made it so Abe was no longer in the lead. Again not much but a potential link between the two since Danny was so happy to point out a non-existent link between myself and PB yesterday.

I made one post with something I thought was possible. But since you want to stay on it.

Let's look at this from the perspective if I actually was a wolf. If I was a wolf, I would have known PB was not a wolf and creating a wolf-wolf link between you to would have been pointless. And I made the point to say that if PB was not a wolf I didn't see you being a wolf. I then made the second (often the most important in creating a lynch candidate) vote on PB, so if anything if I was wolf, I was helping to show you were not a wolf.

[Danny]

Dubb, you're acting awful aggressive from me making one post about what is a common wolf tactic.

[Danny]

Of course now, I think you may be attempting to save Abe. You're playing way too aggressive if if you're a wolf and Abe isn't. So it's likely either you're both wolves or you're a misguided villager.

[Danny]

And before you spin that to mean I am saying you are a wolf either way, If Abe is not a wolf, I feel it unlikely you are a wolf.

[Danny]

So at this point I would still be in favor of lynching Abe over Dubb. If Abe is bad, we go after Dubb next. If Abe is good then I think Dubb gains a little trust.

[Schmidty]

Danny, you're accusing dubb of being "aggressive", but isn't that exactly what you're doing?

[Danny]

Danny, you're accusing dubb of being "aggressive", but isn't that exactly what you're doing?

Originally no. At this point yes because I am on the block. Dubb was not on the block or under any suspicion when he came out aggressively. That means he is either trying to save Abe or a misguided villager. I'm using his aggressiveness to make the point that he is unlikely a wolf is Abe turns out to be good.

[Danny]

Which is why I would be in favor of lynching Abe before Dubb even if I happen to be choice tonight and that would be needed for tomorrow.

[Peregrine]

So at this point I would still be in favor of lynching Abe over Dubb. If Abe is bad, we go after Dubb next. If Abe is good then I think Dubb gains a little trust.

Danny, I understand you are on the block and defending yourself, but posts like this kind of rub me the wrong way. Let's deal with one thing at a time here and save the lists of who gets lynched "next" for tomorrow.

[Danny]

Ok, fair enough

[Schmidty]

Originally no. At this point yes because I am on the block. Dubb was not on the block or under any suspicion when he came out aggressively. That means he is either trying to save Abe or a misguided villager. I'm using his aggressiveness to make the point that he is unlikely a wolf is Abe turns out to be good.

I still haven't seen one bit of good evidence to vote for Abe.

[Danny]

I still haven't seen one bit of good evidence to vote for Abe.

The only evidence is if PB was trying to send a signal to another wolf by placing a vote on one and then not trying to defend himself when Abe was the other lynch candidate. For me, there is enough info to be gained from finding out if he is good or bad that it is worth it.

[Chief Rum]

Hmm, I'm torn on this, not sure how I want to go. I think we have the most to learn from lynching Abe, but I am highly suspicious of the run that put him up in the first place. It had the feel of a person or two pushing a likely suspect and trying to get his votes high enough that other candidates aren't seriously considered.

BTW, I am home from work today, but under the weather (yes, that's right, I had already managed to schedule offdays for the first two days of the tourney, and somehow, irony of ironies, ended up waking up sick this morning--yay, Chief...). So my entries will continue to be sporadic until I feel better, as I am sleeping this off and catching tourney games at the same time. Yeah, I'm a ninja like that, sleep with my eyes open and ever watchful. :D

[EagleFan]

Danny, I understand you are on the block and defending yourself, but posts like this kind of rub me the wrong way. Let's deal with one thing at a time here and save the lists of who gets lynched "next" for tomorrow.

Why? Isn't it better to get everything said when it can be. If Danny is good and he keeps his analysis to himself and then he gets either lynched or taken out by the wolves it only hurts the village as we dont have the benefit of his insight to analyze. If The only people that I would think would want someone to be quiet would be the wolves either if Danny is a wolf who is "saying too much" or if he is a villager who may be "on to something".

[Peregrine]

I think we've still got plenty of time to consider other people before we're forced into a voting confrontation between Abe and Danny.

I propose we think about Kwhit. He cast the final and deciding vote with only two minutes to spare, and his two substantial posts have been to ask the seer not to scan Abe, and saying that he has some kind of PM connection with Dubb. It seems like a bold move for a wolf to do the whole last minute voting thing, then try to cover the person he broke the tie for, but stranger things have happened.

I'd like to hear his feelings on the current Danny-Abe faceoff - yesterday he said he didn't vote for Abe because of running the Dungeon game. Good excuse but maybe just that, an excuse.

[Peregrine]

Why? Isn't it better to get everything said when it can be. If Danny is good and he keeps his analysis to himself and then he gets either lynched or taken out by the wolves it only hurts the village as we dont have the benefit of his insight to analyze. If The only people that I would think would want someone to be quiet would be the wolves either if Danny is a wolf who is "saying too much" or if he is a villager who may be "on to something".

I never said he shouldn't post his analysis or keep quiet - obviously he's been posting a lot. I just said that it's suspicious to me when people start talking about we'll kill this person, then that person - it helps steer the next day's debate, often in unhelpful ways.

[Schmidty]

I never said he shouldn't post his analysis or keep quiet - obviously he's been posting a lot. I just said that it's suspicious to me when people start talking about we'll kill this person, then that person - it helps steer the next day's debate, often in unhelpful ways.

I think AlanT does that a lot.

[Telle]

I've been in training all day. I'm heading home and I won't be getting on tonight, so this is going to be a hit-and-run vote.

VOTE ABE SARGENT

[Schmidty]

I just don't see any good reason for Abe, and I'm not liking the pile-on. I would go with dubb, but at this point, it would make no difference.

Vote Danny

[Danny]

Alright, we have a showdown. They're more fun when you can be online for deadline though. Abe is already out and I will not be here for the deadline either.

[EagleFan]

I don't understand the dogpile on Danny at this point. I think we'll learn more from an Abe vote than a Danny vote. If Abe is good than PB gets the MVP for the wolves,

[dubb93]

I don't understand the dogpile on Danny at this point. I think we'll learn more from an Abe vote than a Danny vote. If Abe is good than PB gets the MVP for the wolves,

I believe the dogpile was on Abe today. Not defending Abe b/c as I said there is a link between Abe and Danny, but lets not forget the first three votes today were put on Abe. That would be the dogpile, not the catch-up vote on Danny here.

[Danny]

Hmm, if there a link between Abe and I, why are you pushing strongly for my lynch and not Abe's?

[dubb93]

Hmm, if there a link between Abe and I, why are you pushing strongly for my lynch and not Abe's?

B/C the link between you and Abe could be nothing. It is simply the fact that you cast a vote to make it where Abe was no longer in the lead. The vote itself is the only link. However your way of implying that I was a wolf regardless of the outcome of the vote on PB just struck me the wrong way.

And yes I'm well aware you changed your story once I called you on it but I'm taking that for what it is worth to me. You tried to sneak something in, got caught and then changed your story to try an make me happy.

[Danny]

These are my only exact words related to that "but if PB turns out bad, I wouldn't be surprised if Dubb was throwing a wolf-wolf vote here in day one."

Where in that statement is it implied that you are bad whether or not PB is?

[dubb93]

I'll be off until after deadline. Going out to eat tonight. Danny if I am wrong you need to argue your point here. I don't believe I am wrong though so you are barking up the wrong tree trying to get ME to change my opinion.

[Danny]

I'll be off until after deadline. Going out to eat tonight. Danny if I am wrong you need to argue your point here. I don't believe I am wrong though so you are barking up the wrong tree trying to get ME to change my opinion.

PB didn't turn out bad, so there's no reason for me to argue that point. It's moot, I was obviously wrong on the connection

[EagleFan]

B/C the link between you and Abe could be nothing. It is simply the fact that you cast a vote to make it where Abe was no longer in the lead. The vote itself is the only link. However your way of implying that I was a wolf regardless of the outcome of the vote on PB just struck me the wrong way.

And yes I'm well aware you changed your story once I called you on it but I'm taking that for what it is worth to me. You tried to sneak something in, got caught and then changed your story to try an make me happy.

Not defending Danny here but here are the posible outcomes based on the votes now.

1) Danny lynched and a wolf. Good for us in that we get a wolf. Makes us still suspicious of Abe due to the day one vote but not any more suspicious than now.

2) Danny lynched and a villager. Bad for us. Still have no clue about Abe. Puts us another day behind.

3) Abe lynched and a wolf. Good for us. We look at Danny next, especially if Abe is the brutal.

4) Abe lynched and is a villager. Bad for us. Danny's day one vote pretty much meaningless at that point.


What we know about Abe. PB voted him (a possible "I know who the wolves are vote"). PB made no attempt to save himself when the vote was between him and Abe that day. If Abe were a villager why wouldn't PB be going all out to get the vote shifted to him as it would only help the wolves (we would be lynching a villager day one and then turn on PB day two which still counts against us in the numbers game and gives the wolves a chance to "hide" their votes for the first two days)?

[claphamsa]

yay! WW is back :D