WW - Zombie Apocalypse - Game Over, Zombies Win

[KWhit]

I'm going to eat dinner and then do some analysis later tonight.

[KWhit]

I do not think voting Telle is the right choice. A wolf basically voted to take her out of the game on night one (but she was saved at the last second by Lathum).

I do not think Telle is the wolf.

[The Jackal]

I think you're probably right, KWhit.

unvote Telle

[KWhit]

I will be voting for Jackal or RealDeal.

[KWhit]

Crap. But Telle is the only one of us who didn't miss the vote last night.

I would expect the wolf to make sure to get their vote in.....

[The Jackal]

Yeah, you'd think so..

[The Jackal]

but then three of us didn't vote, so who knows

[KWhit]

I am going to have to come back to this after I pick the kids up and eat dinner. I want to do some vote analysis.

[KWhit]

Later, guys.

[RealDeal]

I was looking back at the first day vote Telle was referring to, and the one thing I will point out is I voted for a wolf in an extremely close vote.

Actually considering that Danny was one of the main targets on the first two days and the vote was so close, it might not have been a bad move for a wolf to simply skip the vote.

[EagleFan]

As of 510:

Telle 1 - RealDeal (500)
RealDeal 1 - Telle (495)

[The Jackal]

i hope kwhit gets back soon

[KWhit]

I'm back

[KWhit]

I actually feel really good about RealDeal after re-reading the first few pages of this thread. I am now having some second thoughts about Telle.

RD had important votes on Danny on the first two days. I think he's clean.

[The Jackal]

keep in mind the last person is the infector and therefore would be likelier to throw an infected under the bus, but if you like the way his votes went down that's fine

[RealDeal]

I've been pretty clear that I don't really know which way to go. I would have leaned toward Kwhit or Jackal, but I'll vote whichever way I need to save myself and hope we get lucky.

[KWhit]

keep in mind the last person is the infector and therefore would be likelier to throw an infected under the bus, but if you like the way his votes went down that's fine

True.

[KWhit]

I just re-read the entire 11 page thread and I have no idea. All 4 of us have very strong reasons to make us seem innocent.

Oddly enough, Telle's voting record is probably the worst of us all. I had discounted her for the reasons I gave above, but now I'm not so sure. In fact, since all 3 of us other than her missed the vote yesterday, it leads me to believe that she (all other things being close to equal) is the wolf.

What the hell.

VOTE TELLE

[EagleFan]

As of 518:

Telle 2 - RealDeal (500), KWhit (518)
RealDeal 1 - Telle (495)

[KWhit]

I guess I stunned everyone into silence.

[claphamsa]

not me im dead :(

[The Jackal]

I had been feeling stronger about RD today, but I don't think a tie is the way to go here.

VOTE TELLE

[RealDeal]

Not anything to say Kwhit. We're all guessing at this point and have to make the best educated guess we can.

[EagleFan]

As of 522:

Telle 3 - RealDeal (500), KWhit (518), The Jackal (522)
RealDeal 1 - Telle (495)

[EagleFan]

deadline

[EagleFan]

Though you are still uncertain you decide that Telle must be The Infector. Someone grabs the shotgun and in a flash it is over. She drops to the ground, yet another mistake made by the village.

Telle was a vanilla villager.

Night Results Shortly!!!

[RealDeal]

jeez

[KWhit]

crap

[RealDeal]

BRAINS BRAINS BRAINS BRAINS BRAINS BRAINS

I AM GOING TO EAT YOUR BRAIN KWHIT

EAT

YOUR

BRAINS

[The Jackal]

haha damn i had a feeling

[KWhit]

hangs head in shame

[RealDeal]

COME HERE AND DONT FORGET TO BRING YOUR BRAINS!!!!

[RealDeal]

NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM


MMMMMMMMMMMMM

BRAINS

[RealDeal]

WANT SOME BRAINS, JACKAL?

Tastes like chicken.

[RealDeal]

Good game, guys. Was a fun one.

[EagleFan]

You go to sleep, hoping that you ive the night. When you wake the three of you stare at each other.

You are all here!!! You have yet another chance!!!!

...

Then KWhit notices something different about The Jackal. He has a blank stare as he walks towards him. The Jackal tears into KWhit and begins to feast.

RealDeal begins to laugh. "Those fools! I played them like a fiddle."


KWhit was a vanilla villager.

The Jackal used to be a vanilla villager but was infected during the night and now wins with the zombies.

RealDeal was The Infector.

Zombies Win!!!

[RealDeal]

So there was no zombie hunter?

[The Jackal]

yuss victory for the jackal

[claphamsa]

i knew the second i looked back at yeasterdays posts... RD was the wolf. but im dead, and was scoring 5 goals last night :D

and for the record... k never thought jackyl was a wolf.... thats a first i think!

[RealDeal]

i knew the second i looked back at yeasterdays posts... RD was the wolf. but im dead, and was scoring 5 goals last night :D

and for the record... k never thought jackyl was a wolf.... thats a first i think!

Yeah, Claph. I amazed I got away with that. The key for me is I got to infect anytime there was a tie vote. That's why I didn't vote yesterday.

[EagleFan]

The tie votes triggered giving RealDeal a chance to infect someone. Schmidty was the first target but was immune.

I was surprised that no-one went after RealDeal. He started out voting Danny, then after Danny's fake reveal he comes out critical of that reveal saying he didn't believe it but then he voted Schmidty instead of voting Danny that day. I thought for certain that would be a red flag.

[KWhit]

so was danny a zombie when RD voted for him on days 1 and 2?

[EagleFan]

So there was no zombie hunter?

No, wanted to try to even things out and left that role out.

The scenario that I mentioned about you not winning if you weren't lynched was if you didn't submit night actions (which actually happened the last game I ran). Didn't want to influence the game so that is why I said I would tell you what it was after the game.

[claphamsa]

his logic.... killed me (after i was dead) i was WTF

[EagleFan]

so was danny a zombie when RD voted for him on days 1 and 2?

Yeah, the only conversion was The Jackal.

[RealDeal]

The tie votes triggered giving RealDeal a chance to infect someone. Schmidty was the first target but was immune.

I was surprised that no-one went after RealDeal. He started out voting Danny, then after Danny's fake reveal he comes out critical of that reveal saying he didn't believe it but then he voted Schmidty instead of voting Danny that day. I thought for certain that would be a red flag.

Yeah, the reason for that is I got an infection opportunity if a wolf was lynched Day 1 or Day 2. So I decided to basically sacrifice Danny, but he kept surviving. I'd have to go back, but I remember there was enough going on Day 3 that I'd figure to have some cover for trying to kill Schmidty, and it was worth the risk bc we knew Schmidty had a role since he was immune to our infection.

[RealDeal]

his logic.... killed me (after i was dead) i was WTF

I did the J23 vote on purpose yesterday. I figured, what wolf would possibly do something like that? I know I would think someone who did that was a villager, because a wolf generally is paying more attention.

[KWhit]

Well the votes on Danny on days 1 and 2 won the game for you. I obviously didn't know about that mechanic so I figured you wouldn't go after a wolf that early if you were one.

[claphamsa]

I did the J23 vote on purpose yesterday. I figured, what wolf would possibly do something like that? I know I would think someone who did that was a villager, because a wolf generally is paying more attention.
actually i thouhgt that was a red flag too...i tend to be obtuse(er) wehn im a wolf.

[RealDeal]

I knew those votes would serve me well in the future. Don't know how Danny felt about it. I told him I was earning "villager street cred".

[EagleFan]

Have to step away for a bit but will be back if there are any questions/suggestions that anyone had about the mechanics or the game.

[dubb93]

RealDeal had me fooled until last night. His non vote was pure wolf. That said I played a terrible game here.

[RealDeal]

Generally, I advocate villagers revealing earlier than they usually do, but in this game it hurt them. We guessed right that Gdubb was lying about not protecting Schmidty the day he revealed. And we figured the day we killed Schmidty, he was probably protecting himself, since he revealed the next day. So we were able to methodically pick off all the confirmed villagers.

The only problem I had at the end was I was afraid of the zombie hunter role. If I had killed tonight and not gotten the ZH, I would have been in a one on one situation with the ZH and lost the game. So that's why I did an infection and not a kill tonight. Technically, I could have done both, but under the rules the kill goes first, so it was dangerous.

[RealDeal]

The last note I have is that if I had known I had to get it in before the deadline, I could have infected last night. If I had done that, we would have won yesterday. But I didn't know you had to get the order in before 9, even though you couldn't know there was a tie until 9.

[The Jackal]

I like the tie = chance to infect rule

[EagleFan]

I like the tie = chance to infect rule

I figured it wwould give them a chance for an infection. I never guessed there would end up being two ties in the same game as usually just one can be rare.

[RealDeal]

It's a lot easier for a wolf to engineer a tie than a villager lynch, particularly in later rounds.

[Telle]

So I was right about both Jackal and RealDeal. Hah! :)

[RealDeal]

Yes about me, no about Jackal. He was only converted at the very end. He was a villager during all the voting rounds.

[J23]

Going after Danny early won the game for you RD. Nicely played.