WEREWOLF Tribe: Daily Actions Due

[Autumn]

Day Seven

Camp Status: Rudimentary shelter

Food Stores: No food stored

Equipment: Machete, cookpot.

Challenge: ?

[Autumn]

Your tribe:

J23 - voted out Day 2
CrimsonFox - voted out Day 1
SnDvls
TheJackal - voted out Day 4
Greyroofoo - voted out Day 6
Racer
Danny



THE HOTHEAD

J23 is a guy that gets fired up about life, and especially about competition. In his regular life he may be a video store clerk, but he is clearly in Survivor to win and expects to give 110% out there every day. He looks ready to survive and ready to compete. Just don't get in his way.

THE STONER

CrimsonFox has been looking for something to do ever since Phish stopped touring. After applying to Survivor 15 straight times he's finally made the cut. Now that he's here, is he going to play to win or enjoy the beach?

THE SURGEON

SnDvls may not be a rocket scientist, but he is a brain surgeon. Here's a guy who doesn't need the money, but knows what it's like to be on top. We know he has the wits to play the game, but here on Survivor he'll be dealing with more than a scalpel.

THE HUNTER

The Jackal has been featured on the Outdoor Channel and in Hunting magazine for his exploits. Unfortunately for him, he can't bring his big game technology with him to the islands, and there's no production team helping him on this show. Does the hunter have what it takes to make it all on his own?

THE MODEL

Greyroofoo may be the first male model we've had in Survivor history. Depending on how he does, he may be the last. The men in the audience get their fill of eye candy every season, and now it's the ladies' turn. Will Greyroofoo turn out to be just a pretty face or will he find a way to be more than that?

THE ROADIE

Racer carried Eddie Van Halen's amp. What more do you need to know about this guy? He may not see much of the big outdoors from the blue bus, but we all know roadies can do it all. Will he stick around long enough to tell that story about Gene Simmons and the piranha?

THE NURSE

Danny knows how to perform in a high pressure environment, where juggling demanding people and delicate or strenuous work is a routine activity. A nurse has to be able to do a lot of things. But if we're lucky most of them won't happen on Survivor. Will Danny's grit be enough to get him to the finals?

[Autumn]

Feel free to post in here. Of course you should only read your own tribal thread.

[Autumn]

Today begins your first day on the island. You have been separated from the other tribe, given your tribal flag and arm bands. Now here you are on the beach of a deserted island. You have been given a machete, a pot and enough canteens for everyone. The rest is up to you.

You currently have no shelter. You have no fire. You have no food. Your first task will be to decide how to spend your energies during the day.

DAILY EFFORT

Each player has three effort points to spend among the following actions. Choosing the same action multiple times is allowed. You have until 10:30 p.m. EST on Friday to send me a private message detailing how you will be spending your action points on day one.

Work on the camp site: This will help create shelter for the tribe, keeping them safe from shelter and preventing loss of health at night or during storms.

Forage for food: Each contestant of course must eat every day. Food gathered is put into a common pool and used to feed the tribe.

Secretly talk to other contestants: Spending effort in this area allows the player to send private messages to other contestants, three messages for each point of effort. Outside of this players are only allowed one private message per game day, and otherwise must not communicate about the game outside of the tribe thread. In this case the PM period will stretch from 10:30 p.m. on Friday until 10:30 p.m. on Monday.

Watch what another contestant is doing: If you wish to keep tabs on another contestant you may spend some effort to follow them, getting some information as to what actions they took during the same day.

Recuperate: This is the only way to restore health points that you have lost during the game.

Search for a hidden immunity idol: There is no indication that there exist any hidden idols, however there is a possibility that they will be a part of the game.

Miscellaneous action approved by the moderator: Feel free to contact the moderator about spending your effort points on something outside of this list.

[Poli]

First to post besides the mod.

[CrimsonFox]

We've been given pot??? Far out dude! Whoa! I think I'm havin a trip right now! I see Trolls...

[Racer]

I hope we kick the villagers' asses! Anyways, I think we should reveal our strengths and weaknesses that are relevant to camp life and the challenges. Doing so I think will help up do better as a tribe and hopefully go into the merge with the numbers. I'll go first.

I have excellent strength. I am good at swimming and staying calm. I really suck in regards to camp apparently.

[J23]

I'm excellent at food and good at camp.

How much of our PMs are we allowed to reveal? I know in most games it's not really allowed, so I thought I'd ask before sharing too much info.

[CrimsonFox]

I'm good at swimmin and gathering munchies too.
I'll help build shelter too as we need that so our munchies don't get wet.

[SnDvls]

for a brain surgen my skill set sucks. I'm pretty average in just about everything that is useful in Survivor except stamina.

[Racer]

I think building the shelter is probably the most important day one activity. Should I help with that despite being poor at camp or should I try to help gather food?

Also, does anyone have a pair of glasses (my PM didn't say anything about me having any). You can actually start a fire with a pair of glasses and tinder. If someone has a pair, it's an activity we could try to see if Autumn would approve because fire is pretty damn important.

[SnDvls]

I think building the shelter is probably the most important day one activity. Should I help with that despite being poor at camp or should I try to help gather food?

Also, does anyone have a pair of glasses (my PM didn't say anything about me having any). You can actually start a fire with a pair of glasses and tinder. If someone has a pair, it's an activity we could try to see if Autumn would approve because fire is pretty damn important.

I put in my actions as shelter and find food x 2

[Autumn]

CHALLENGE DESCRIPTION

Welcome to your first challenge in Survivor. Today the two tribes meet for the first time. Up for grabs is not only immunity from Tribal Council, but a reward as well. The winner reaps the reward, the losers head to Tribal Council tonight.

For today's challenge you will be required to retrieve a burning torch from the middle of the bay, return it to your beach and light a signal fire with it. The winner gets to keep the fire burning on their beach. The loser goes home tonight without it.

There's a bit more to it than that though. In order to retrieve the torch you will need to construct a boat out of materials found in your camp and island: bamboo, vine, etc. Once your boat is built, four of you will row the boat out to the torch, grab the torch off of a rock as you row by, and return the boat to the beach.

Once the boat has returned, the other three tribe members must begin assembling a ladder out of puzzle pieces. When the ladder has been built, it will be placed against the signal tower. The entire tribe must climb the ladder and then the signal fire can be lit with the torch. The first tribe to light their fire wins.

You have until 4:30 p.m. EST on Monday to submit your actions in the challenge. Remember that each tribe member is responsible for relaying their own actions to me through private message. Plans made in thread can be a part of your plan as a tribe, but it will not substitute for the individual's private message.

[Racer]

I should be around now until 10:30 or so.

[Autumn]

Daily Effort deadline is upon us. After 10:30 you can go ahead and feel free to use any of your allotment of private messages. Remember that these are the only messages you have available until 10:30 p.m. on Monday. One sent message per person, plus three per effort points spent on messaging. Also:

PLEASE INCLUDE ME ON ALL PRIVATE MESSAGES

So that i can keep track of the numbers, and also for my enjoyment.

[Autumn]

Also, there are some who still haven't gotten their daily effort decisions in. I'm not going to be a stickler on this deadline since it's the start of the game, and things are still wacky. But please get those in to me as soon as you can.

[CrimsonFox]

Who's our puzzle experts? I stink at them. I volunteer to be one of the 4 boat rowers.

[Racer]

Who's our puzzle experts? I stink at them. I volunteer to be one of the 4 boat rowers.

I'm average at them. Is strength an important asset in rowing? If so I'm probably better off being a rower.

[Greyroofoo]

I'm an expert at puzzles.

[SnDvls]

I have poor strength, but excellent stamina and good puzzles so I'll go for whatever the team decides to put me at.

[Danny]

I will be better of doing puzzles myself and not one of the rowers.

[Racer]

So going off of what everyone has said so far:

Definitely/Probably:
Rowers: CrimsonFox, Racer
Puzzle: Greyroofoo & Danny

Maybe:
Puzzle: SnDvls (depending on Jackal's and J23's strengths)

Not Sure:
Rowers?: Jackal & J23 (both would have to be if SnDvls is the 3rd puzzle maker).

[SnDvls]

So going off of what everyone has said so far:

Definitely/Probably:
Rowers: CrimsonFox, Racer
Puzzle: Greyroofoo & Danny

Maybe:
Puzzle: SnDvls (depending on Jackal's and J23's strengths)

Not Sure:
Rowers?: Jackal & J23 (both would have to be if SnDvls is the 3rd puzzle maker).

Maybe Autumn could help with this.

What do our attributes actually mean?

If someone has Excellent strength but poor stamina are they good at a short burst in an athletic competition or would it be better to have someone with a little weeker strength, but better in stamina?

[SnDvls]

our thread is lagging behind the villagers thread so I'm gonna just post this to up our post count and really freak them out.

I suggest others do this too by just posting a quick...."Post Count" hit whenever you visit....let's play some mind games with them early on :)

[SnDvls]

"Post Count"

[Autumn]

Maybe Autumn could help with this.

What do our attributes actually mean?

If someone has Excellent strength but poor stamina are they good at a short burst in an athletic competition or would it be better to have someone with a little weeker strength, but better in stamina?

I'm not going to reveal the nuts and bolts of the challenges to that depth, other than to say that different portions of different challenges will require a certain rating or combination of ratings. If you have questions particularly about what I mean by each rating, I'd be glad to answer those.

In this case Strength generally measures brute strength in terms of lifting or pushing or carrying something. Stamina generally means how long you can sustain a difficult activity.

[SnDvls]

I'm not going to reveal the nuts and bolts of the challenges to that depth, other than to say that different portions of different challenges will require a certain rating or combination of ratings. If you have questions particularly about what I mean by each rating, I'd be glad to answer those.

In this case Strength generally measures brute strength in terms of lifting or pushing or carrying something. Stamina generally means how long you can sustain a difficult activity.

ok so this might change our thinking on how/where we want to put people for the challenge.

[Racer]

ok so this might change our thinking on how/where we want to put people for the challenge.

Yeah, agreed. I'm guessing endurance would play more of a role in rowing then? I have average endurance and I'm average at puzzles.

[Racer]

Also, if this closely resembles real life survivor, the teamwork rating may also play a large role in the puzzle aspect of the challenge, perhaps even 50/50 with puzzle ability.

[Greyroofoo]

You'd think our Brain Surgeon (Sndvl) would be good at puzzles

[The Jackal]

Should put me on food almost always. Not very good at puzzles.

[The Jackal]

And yes, put me on rowing over the puzzle, for sure.

[SnDvls]

You'd think our Brain Surgeon (Sndvl) would be good at puzzles

apparently I got by on my good looks and have some great malpractice insurance :)

I do have a pretty good "calm" rating...I think it's excellent.

[Racer]

Just to update on what people have said so far.

Rowers (need 4): CrimsonFox, The Jackal
Puzzles (need 3): Greyroofoo, Danny
not sure: SnDvls (excellent stamina & good puzzles), Racer (excellent strength, average endurance & puzzles), & J23 (?)

[SnDvls]

Worst case racer and I will row forcing j23 for puzzles with greyfoo at excellent I would guess we'll be fine

[Racer]

Anybody have any thoughts on whether or not we should have anyone put extra effort into the challenge and if so, how many people?

Also, if we do, do you guys think it would be better to have average people (like myself) put extra effort into the challenge or people really good at one of the two aspects of the challenge (like Greyroofoo)?

I think it would be really good if we could win this first challenge because it would give us fire. Putting in extra effort in this challenge certainly won't guarantee we'll win, but hopefully it would tilt the percentages in our favor.

Personally, I think it would be good if 2 or 3 people put in extra effort. As far as the second one goes, I think we basically have to guess how Autumn has set up the mechanics of the challenge.

[Racer]

You have until 4:30 p.m. EST on Monday to submit your actions in the challenge. Remember that each tribe member is responsible for relaying their own actions to me through private message. Plans made in thread can be a part of your plan as a tribe, but it will not substitute for the individual's private message.

I went ahead and submitted that I plan to be a rower in the challenge (I wanted to submit one in case I forget tomorrow). Hopefully I can change that if necessary. Don't forget guys to submit your actions to Autumn because the rules say it hurts our team's performance in challenges if anyone forgets.

[SnDvls]

Post count

[Racer]

I went ahead and submitted that I plan to be a rower in the challenge (I wanted to submit one in case I forget tomorrow). Hopefully I can change that if necessary. Don't forget guys to submit your actions to Autumn because the rules say it hurts our team's performance in challenges if anyone forgets.

I checked with Autumn and he said it's fine to send multiple actions regarding your challenge action and that the last one you send counts. So we can switch me or anyone else if need be.

[Danny]

I sent mine in to do puzzles

[Greyroofoo]

I'll do puzzles,

also should we organize people for food and camp gathering?

[J23]

I'm good at puzzles, but only average strength and stamina, so I think I'd be better in the puzzle group

[SnDvls]

ok put in my action to do the rowing due to my stamina also said to put in extra effort too...this is a must win challenge today

[SnDvls]

also should we organize people for food and camp gathering?

I already stated what I was doing for day 1 if anyone wants to join me that's cool.

[SnDvls]

I'm good at puzzles, but only average strength and stamina, so I think I'd be better in the puzzle group

Go ahead and submit to Autum that you are doing puzzles then

[SnDvls]

I'll do puzzles,

also should we organize people for food and camp gathering?

have you sent in the PM to Autumn already?

[J23]

So with our three points of effort to use for today, we can put them into the challenge instead of the other activities?

I gathered food the first day, and thinking of putting some towards the camp tonight.

[Autumn]

So with our three points of effort to use for today, we can put them into the challenge instead of the other activities?

I gathered food the first day, and thinking of putting some towards the camp tonight.

J23, the points you guys have already submitted essentially are for this, day one. Your points you choose tonight will determine what you spend day two (tomorrow) doing.

The challenge is totally separate from these activities. You don't need to spend points on it, but you do need to send in your actions during the challenge to me. You also always have the choice of dogging the challenge (putting in less effort) or putting in extra effort (with the increased chance that you will tire yourself out or injure yourself).

[J23]

Ah, gotcha. I forgot about the extra effort/chance of injury bit.

Submitting for the puzzle portion of the challenge now.

[SnDvls]

Submitted Rowers (need 4): SnDvls, Racer
Yet to be Submitted Rowers:CrimsonFox, The Jackal
Submitted Puzzles (need 3): Danny, J23
Yet to be Submitted Puzzles: Greyroofoo

[Greyroofoo]

I submitted for doing puzzles

[Racer]

ok put in my action to do the rowing due to my stamina also said to put in extra effort too...this is a must win challenge today

I've put in normal effort for now (average endurance, average teamwork, and excellent strength). If you guys think I should put in extra effort let me know. We really need to maximize our chances of winning this thing because fire is extremely important (also it be great if we didn't have to go to tribal).

Also, I think I've said this before, but I have poor camp skills and average food gathering skills. I think getting camp in order is more important, but should I allocate my points towards food gathering for day two?

[SnDvls]

I've put in normal effort for now (average endurance, average teamwork, and excellent strength). If you guys think I should put in extra effort let me know. We really need to maximize our chances of winning this thing because fire is extremely important (also it be great if we didn't have to go to tribal).

Also, I think I've said this before, but I have poor camp skills and average food gathering skills. I think getting camp in order is more important, but should I allocate my points towards food gathering for day two?

let's see what day 1 and the challenge bring first.

[The Jackal]

I submitted rowing last night, and as you can likely guess I'll be on food a lot of the time

[Autumn]

Challenge deadline. I will work on the results and narrate the challenge in a short while.

[Autumn]

Boats & Ladders

The two tribes assemble for a challenge for the first time in this season of Survivor. Starting on their own beaches, across the bay from each other, each tribe waits for the call and then bursts into action. Their first task, build a boat that will help them reach the center of the bay where a lit torch awaits them.

All seven tribe members help, taking the vines, bamboo, coconuts and other materials that have been assembled for them and attempting to form it into a craft. The task is clearly a challenge for some, while others jump right into fashioning something. Both beaches are filled with the sounds of the tribe members calling to each other heatedly, grabbing at materials and directing each other, sometimes to contradictory effect.

The Villagers are the first to make some progress, their boat taking shape while the Werewolves are still attempting to find an initial structure. While Hoopsguy is at a loss and contents himself to back on the villager beach, handing materials to others as he can, the others seem to get on the same page, Darth Vilus and Chesapeake leading the design and getting the raft finished.

The Werewolves struggle to keep up the pace, J23, Jackal and Greyroofoo all getting their hands into the construction, but the others less sure how to proceed. Things seem dire as the Villagers are pulling far ahead, but SnDvls pulls the group together keeping the various builders from going in different directions and lining the materials up for them. With his efforts the Werewolves get their craft into the water only shortly after the Villagers.

[SnDvls]

I think we may lose this one
we did not organize all the minute details just the major ones

[Racer]

I think we may lose this one
we did not organize all the minute details just the major ones

Judging from the loss and the wording of the challenge, it sounds like maybe we send more actions then just who is rowing and who is on the puzzle?

For example, should we designate someone as the leader for the puzzles and if there are objects to grab, who should grab them?

[Greyroofoo]

can't hurt

[SnDvls]

Judging from the loss and the wording of the challenge, it sounds like maybe we send more actions then just who is rowing and who is on the puzzle?

For example, should we designate someone as the leader for the puzzles and if there are objects to grab, who should grab them?

my guess too. Not to sound like sour grapes, but it's crap when that's not spelled out in the rules or in the challenge or even when Darth asked a question that sort of addresses it it's stated the we only need to submit to what part of the challenge we are doing. Kinda pisses me off a bit actually.

[SnDvls]

Autumn - did everyone PM you with a job/role for the challenge? If not who didn't?

Also will we be required to tell you every detail of every challenge from here on out? if yes please give us all the details of every challenge from here on out thanks (i.e. what is or isn't required to be reported/worked out like we didn't need to gather stuff to build the boat today.) Also if multiple say they will do something (like be the leader or grab an object) who's action takes presidence the first or last person to PM you?

Just want some clarification before the next challenge.

[SnDvls]

why is maple leafs in our thread????

WTF???

I have a screan cap for proof if needed

[Autumn]

SnDvls, yes everybody sent in a PM.

You are not required to send in any particular level of detail. Some of what you saw in the results was a result of the villagers deciding on a detail that you guys did not. Some of it was just a result of the particular ratings involved in the challenge, as I decided to narrate it.

As I stated in the rules, the plan you come up with in thread, how appropriate it is, how consistent the PMs that get sent in to me are all will affect your performance. IN your particular question, if several people messaged me to do the same thing, I would determine on a case by case basis what happens, but that fact would affect the performance of that action in a negative way.

I guess what I want to say is that I wrote up the results the way I did to try to let you know what sort of things might help or harm challenge results, not to suggest you did not do something you should have.

[Autumn]

It is your first day on the island and you are stranded there among the cameramen with only a machete, a pot and some canteens. You get busy before sunset to find some way to survive on this island.

People scatter about, exploring the island, looking for what they can do to help. You count yourselves lucky to find great sources of food, filling up the camp stores with bananas, coconuts and berries. In particular, The Jackal and J23 fill up the larder. Jackal manages to actually catch some small game with some traps he readies, providing a big heap of promising meat to be dried, and hopefully cooked, eventually J23 manages to spear a number of fish and find some crabs, himself and the tribe enjoys a much more satisfying meal tonight than any of you expected. Indeed, you still have enough food for tomorrow.

Some work on putting together a shelter for the night. The work doesn't go particularly well though, no one having a clear idea exactly what to do, and most heading off to gather food before anything that useful has been finished. When the rain comes you find yourself huddled under a haphazard roof of leaves that leaks and blows away in the wind. There is some structure there, but it does next to nothing so far to shelter you. You do not look forward to your first night here.

Between your efforts in the challenge and working today, your nutritious meal, and then a long miserable night exposed to the elements, you will each lose 6 health points. SnDvls in particular looks rough, having pulled some muscle during the challenge and just looking exhausted. It has struck you how miserable surviving on this island could be.

[Racer]

why is maple leafs in our thread????

WTF???

I have a screan cap for proof if needed

I saw him a little awhile ago in this thread actually. I figured he had accidentally clicked on the thread (I did that once on the villager thread actually and immediately hit the back button) and hit the refresh button a few times and then he was gone. I also saw his name for the second time in this thread just a minute ago.

[Greyroofoo]

why is maple leafs in our thread????

WTF???

I have a screan cap for proof if needed

lol, I gots me a screen shot as well

[SnDvls]

I saw him a little awhile ago in this thread actually. I figured he had accidentally clicked on the thread (I did that once on the villager thread actually and immediately hit the back button) and hit the refresh button a few times and then he was gone. I also saw his name for the second time in this thread just a minute ago.

it's still showing there for me...I don't want to accuse anyone of anything, but he's been in here for a long time

[SnDvls]

dola - his profile is showing that he's actually now "viewing the thread"

[Greyroofoo]

Would sending in a vote for maple leafs be prudent?

Or would it just make me look like a cry-baby for losing the challenge.

[SnDvls]

Would sending in a vote for maple leafs be prudent?

Or would it just make me look like a cry-baby for losing the challenge.

LOL

[Racer]

Between your efforts in the challenge and working today, your nutritious meal, and then a long miserable night exposed to the elements, you will each lose 6 health points.

Thought I'd point this out in case anyone missed it. We each probably want to use one effort point on resting so none of us get knocked out of the game and so we don't completely suck in the next challenge.

[Greyroofoo]

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[Racer]

Also just a guess, but I'd imagine that everyone in the other tribe also lost some health points.

[Racer]

The one thing I'll say in regards to the MapleLeafs thing is that if he had truly had intentions of breaking the rules, he probably would have viewed this thread as a guest. Still he could have been reading this thread not realizing it was against the rules.

[SnDvls]

Also just a guess, but I'd imagine that everyone in the other tribe also lost some health points.

I would guess that they all lost 3-4 for the challenge and then depending on their food/shelter would have lost more. Seems like we lost a lot with the amount of food we gathered today. Typically in Survivor food is more important than shelter in the early days, then the trend starts to turn as you are subjected to the elements and become tired from all the challenges you need more rest...just my opinion on the matter though.

[SnDvls]

I'll openly take suggestions on who to vote out tonight too. I'm leaning towards the standard WW tatic...the quiet ones :)

especially in a game like this where we need a team as there is no true werewolf

[Racer]

J23 manages to spear a number of fish and find some crabs, himself and the tribe enjoys a much more satisfying meal tonight than any of you expected. Indeed, you still have enough food for tomorrow.

Between your efforts in the challenge and working today, your nutritious meal, and then a long miserable night exposed to the elements, you will each lose 6 health points.

I would guess that they all lost 3-4 for the challenge and then depending on their food/shelter would have lost more. Seems like we lost a lot with the amount of food we gathered today. Typically in Survivor food is more important than shelter in the early days, then the trend starts to turn as you are subjected to the elements and become tired from all the challenges you need more rest...just my opinion on the matter though.

SnDvls, I would read it again. Based on what Autumn said, I would say we lost our points from the challenge and our crappy shelter since we apparently have food left over. I should probably devote my points to resting and food since I'm poor at camp (as should whoever is excellent at food finding), but I think most of our tribe should be focusing on recuperating and shelter building.

[Danny]

I put two effort points into shelter so it's a shame we couldn't come up with a better shelter.

Challenge results sucked, but we should have a better idea of how to structure our submitted actions going forward.

[SnDvls]

SnDvls, I would read it again. Based on what Autumn said, I would say we lost our points from the challenge and our crappy shelter since we apparently have food left over. I should probably devote my points to resting and food since I'm poor at camp (as should whoever is excellent at food finding), but I think most of our tribe should be focusing on recuperating and shelter building.

I guess I wasn't clear enough. I would think that with the amount of food we found that we would NOT have lost so much health as we could gain some back with the food since we seem to have leftovers.

[SnDvls]

dola - agree on the shelter building...we really need to sort this out tonight so we have a united front on who is doing what.

[Racer]

I guess I wasn't clear enough. I would think that with the amount of food we found that we would NOT have lost so much health as we could gain some back with the food since we seem to have leftovers.

I'll definitely be using one point to recuperate.

Any thoughts on whether I should use my other points towards camp (poor at) or food (average at)? I wish I was more useful around camp. :)

[Danny]

Priorities should be recuperating and working on camp. We appear to have extra food.

[Autumn]

Guys, I spoke with Maple Leafs. He didn't understand that the tribe threads were private, but upon rereading the rules he understands that they are. He apologizes and that should be all cleared up now.

[Racer]

I'm not sure who to vote for tonight. However, I think we need to have more active thinking in this thread so I'll vote for someone who hasn't said much. I would hate to have to vote off my initial impressions of the people who haven't said much, but as of right now that's how I would have vote as I don't see much else that makes one person a better option to keep then another.

[Autumn]

I should have highlighted in the camp summary that a good deal of your misery is due to the lack of a fire. You know that if you had a way to keep warm and dry things out after a rainstorm, as well as cook food, you'd be in much better shape.

[Racer]

So basically, I really hope everyone starts talking more so it makes it easier tonight's vote easier.

[Racer]

I should have highlighted in the camp summary that a good deal of your misery is due to the lack of a fire. You know that if you had a way to keep warm and dry things out after a rainstorm, as well as cook food, you'd be in much better shape.

Hi guys,

I just pm'd Autumn to see if we can put effort points towards trying to create fire, specifically using a pair of glasses (if anyone wears a pair) and tinder. On the real life show people have actually been successful with that method before.

[Racer]

Hi guys,

I just pm'd Autumn to see if we can put effort points towards trying to create fire, specifically using a pair of glasses (if anyone wears a pair) and tinder. On the real life show people have actually been successful with that method before.

Alright guys, this is huge. Hopefully there is nothing wrong with quoting Autumn's PM directly since it's mechanics related.

From Autumn:

"I would certainly allow you or someone to spend points to try that, yes. It seems possible that someone might have the ability to pull that off. Since you are asking, I'll let you know that SnDvl's surgeon is the only tribe member with glasses."

[Racer]

Also, not sure it will make a difference, but for camp tomorrow, I requested that I primarily carry things such as bamboo logs and covering to the camp site since I have excellent strength.

Should I revise it to cutting bamboo (wondering if that is more strength based or camp skills based)?

[The Jackal]

Interesting. Sorry I haven't been more active, had a busy weekend and I've been sick the last day. I don't have much of an indication of where to vote except that CF seemed to do poorly in the rowing. But I don't know who I'll vote for.

[Danny]

Interesting.

Regarding the vote, I also lean towards voting someone who is less active. It seems going forward we really need everyone to be active and work together to improve on our outcomes.

[The Jackal]

Personally I don't think I'll be voting for J as he and I gathered a ton of food, nor SnD for the effort he showed, he'll need to recuperate some tonight.

[The Jackal]

I think I'm out for the rest of the night but I've submitted a vote and actions, will check back late or tomorrow morning

[J23]

I unfortunately will have to rest with a good chunk of my effort points tomorrow. I received a PM stating that I'd be basically useless in a challenge until I rested up a bit.

[CrimsonFox]

I would have been worse at puzzlnig for sure. I gathered food and built shelter, but now that I know more about things I will probably spend ALL my points on shelter tomorrow. I'll be ready for the swimming challenges. Hope they come quickly I'll ace that.

Let's spend as many shelter points tomorrow as possible.

[SnDvls]

I give anyone that wants permission to use my glasses to start fire

[Greyroofoo]

What kind of skill set do you think is best for trying to start a fire with glasses?

If its puzzles then I'm your guy.

[Racer]

What kind of skill set do you think is best for trying to start a fire with glasses?

If its puzzles then I'm your guy.

Maybe Camp? Maybe being calm? A combination of the two? (another possibility scrappy)

[Autumn]

I'll let you guys know, just because I think it may be too vague of a term, that Scrappy in the game refers to physical feistiness, ability to fight for something or fight someone off, for example.

[Racer]

Also, I think it is necessary for it to be sunny out for someone to start a fire with a pair of sunglasses and tinder (I could be leaving out stuff you need to). Whoever tries to start it might want to submit two conditions on how two use their effort points (one if it's sunny and one's if it's rainy or cloudy).

It also might be good for two people to puts efforts towards starting a fire together to increase our chances.

[Racer]

Okay I did a quick search for how exactly a fire was started in Survivor with a pair of glasses.


In another season, Yau-man, started his teams fire with a pair of glasses. He held the lens over the coconut husks fibers in direct sunlight to start the fire. After the smaller fire was started, the team added more kindling until the fire was going and added larger pieces of wood to make a campfire to stay warm with.

If I remember correctly, I think it actually take hours of direct sunlight into the lenses for it to start a fire, thus requiring a great deal of patience. I don't know what attribute that would apply to, maybe the ability to stay calm. I'd also imagine the "camp" ability might come into play.

What does everyone else think?

[Greyroofoo]

I think we need to kidnap autumn and force him to give us the answer.

[Autumn]

I think we need to kidnap autumn and force him to give us the answer.

That would make for a new exciting twist on the game of Survivor.

[Racer]

I think we need to kidnap autumn and force him to give us the answer.

:lol:

[SnDvls]

Okay I did a quick search for how exactly a fire was started in Survivor with a pair of glasses.



If I remember correctly, I think it actually take hours of direct sunlight into the lenses for it to start a fire, thus requiring a great deal of patience. I don't know what attribute that would apply to, maybe the ability to stay calm. I'd also imagine the "camp" ability might come into play.

What does everyone else think?

it won't take hours that's for sure as I remember using a magnifying glass (similar to what glasses are) to "burn" my hand. It would take some time, but no more that 45 mins to a half hour to get smoke.

[Racer]

it won't take hours that's for sure as I remember using a magnifying glass (similar to what glasses are) to "burn" my hand. It would take some time, but no more that 45 mins to a half hour to get smoke.

I see. So who's calm and good around camp? That's my guess on the attributes it takes to start a fire. We're running out of time so if someone (or two people) are going to devote points to it, they need to do soon.

[Autumn]

Welcome to Tribal Council, Werewolf Tribe. Please come in and place your torches. As you know in this game, fire is life. As long as your torch is lit you're alive in this game. One tribe member will have their torch put out tonight, and be out of the game.

[Autumn]

So, Werewolves. How would you say the mood around camp is right now?

[Greyroofoo]

Can we keep the lighted torches?

[Autumn]

I'm sorry, Greyroofoo, you won't be able to bring the fire back to camp. Chilly over there, is it?

[Autumn]

Well then, let's get to the vote. Your votes have been cast. Before I read them does anyone have a hidden immunity idol that they wish to play?

[Autumn]

All right, I'll count the votes.

[Autumn]

The first vote:
J23

[Autumn]

The second vote is:
TheJackal

[Autumn]

The third vote cast is:
CrimsonFox

That's 1 vote J23, 1 vote Jackal, 1 vote CrimsonFox

[Autumn]

The fourth vote cast is:
CrimsonFox

[Autumn]

The fifth vote cast is:
TheJackal

That's 2 votes Jackal, 2 votes CrimsonFox, 1 vote J23

[Autumn]

The sixth vote cast is:
TheJackal

[Autumn]

The seventh vote cast is:
CrimsonFox

That's 3 votes Jackal, 3 votes CrimsonFox, 1 vote J23

We have a tie.

[Autumn]

In the event of a tie at this point in the competition, we will hold a revote. TheJackal and CrimsonFox may not vote. You may only vote for one of those two contestants.

[Autumn]

Unfortunately J23 was forced to vote for himself because he did not show up to cast a vote. Please send in your second vote privately to me, following the rules above.

[Autumn]

You guys are unfortunately stuck in tribal council for the moment. I will message everyone so that they know a vote is needed.

[SnDvls]

revote sent

[Racer]

revote also sent.

[Greyroofoo]

revote cent

[Autumn]

Thanks guys. I've got to walk away from the computer. I will be back on in a while to see if the rest of the votes are in.

[Autumn]

The votes are cast again. They again come out in a tie - split evenly between CrimsonFox and The Jackal.

You will have to come to consensus as a tribe, outside of CrimsonFox and Jackal, as to who to eliminate from your tribe. If you are not able to reach consensus, both players will be sent to Exile Island for the day, meaning you will be short two tribe members during the day on Day Two.

You have until 11 a.m. EST to reach a consensus.

Since J23 has not voted, and I have not yet been able to reach him, and everyone voted the same, it was a tie again.

I don't know if 11 a.m. is reasonable for everyone (meaning the four who have to decide), but I don't want this to drag on too long. You will not be able to start working on the Challenge, really, until you know who will be here tomorrow.

If I don't hear from J23 by morning I will have to see about replacing him, but for this vote, this will be the solution.

[J23]

Sorry, for some reason I thought the Tribal Council would be tomorrow night, not tonight. Sending in my vote if it's not too late.

[Greyroofoo]

well lets find out who j23 didn't like

[Autumn]

Wait, what's this?

It seems there's another vote at the bottom of the bowl here. I don't know how I missed that.

The seventh vote, and the first contestant voted out of Survivor: Islands of FOFC is:

CrimsonFox.

CF, the tribe has spoken. Please put out your torch.

[Autumn]

Welcome to your second challenge. Yesterday we saw these two tribes race to build a boat, row it, complete a puzzle and light a fire. Today's challenge will require a different group of skills. You will need to divide your tribe into pairs. Each pair will face off against a pair from the opposing tribe. The Villagers, you will have to sit one player for this challenge.

Here you can see a sandy beach divided into grids. When the first two pairs face off, at the sound of a whistle you will race across the sand to one portion of the grid. Buried in that section is a bag. Your goal is to find the bag and return it to the rest of your tribe. Of course that is the goal of the other tribe as well. This may, and probably will, be a full contact challenge.

The tribe with the most bags at the end of the challenge wins the challenge. If there is a tie, each team will pick one pair to represent them in a sudden death match for the final bag. In addition they will receive a reward of camp supplies, including a hatchet, waterproof matches, and a collection of foodstuffs. The loser will face Tribal Council this night.

By 4:30 p.m. EST on Tuesday you will need to submit to me, by private message, who you will be paired with. You and your partner will also need to submit your strategy for getting the bag. Your success will depend partially on your pair being on the same page, and of course on how well your strategy works against your opponents. In addition, each tribe will have to agree on a pair to represent them in case of a tie.

[J23]

well lets find out who j23 didn't like

Flip of the proverbial coin sadly.

[J23]

For the challenge, in case I don't get this in sooner, I'm average strength, stamina, and find but excellent in Scrappy(which I think may come into play here?). I also have above average teamwork which could be helpful as well.

The bad part is that my health is quite low. I had reduced hp to start with, so the loss from yesterday has left me in bad shape.

Anyway, off to bed, hopefully get some time to contribute tomorrow.

[Danny]

I will not be available much t9day before the deadline, so I would like to be paired up with someone who will be active and able to plan out our strategy.

[Racer]

Okay, I won't be much if at all after 12:30. There is a chance I could pop in before the 4:30 deadline but I wouldn't count on it.

What skills do you guys think are necessary for this challenge?

Strength - To tackle others (and also the bags might be kind of heavy).
Running? - To allude players from the other team
Scrappy - Per Autumn's explanation from post #99,

I'll let you guys know, just because I think it may be too vague of a term, that Scrappy in the game refers to physical feistiness, ability to fight for something or fight someone off, for example.


I have excellent strength, average at running, and I'm average at being scrappy.

[Racer]

Also any thoughts on how we should pair people in this challenge (i.e. good with good, good with average, or good with poor)?

I don't think we should pair our strongest with our weakest personally. Not sure between the other two options.

[SnDvls]

I would guess the following would play into this task

Find - as we have to dig for a bag and find it

Running - once we have the bag

Scrappy - keeping the bag away from others or getting it from others

Stamina - it may take a while don't know

Strength - fighting off someone

Teamwork - gotta help the partner

here are my ratings for them

Find - Good
Running - Avg
Scrappy - Good
Stamina- Excellent
Strength - Poor
Teamwork - Avg

whom ever I'm paired with I should be the one running with the bag and the other person would be my lead blocker to take out the others.

Autumn - when we match up do we need to say we're group #1, 2 & 3 or can we say we want player x & Y to go in against Hoopsguy and whomever his partner is for the challenge?

[Autumn]

Autumn - when we match up do we need to say we're group #1, 2 & 3 or can we say we want player x & Y to go in against Hoopsguy and whomever his partner is for the challenge?

You just pick your pair. You don't know who you'll get matched up against.

[Racer]

I would guess the following would play into this task

Find - as we have to dig for a bag and find it

Running - once we have the bag

Scrappy - keeping the bag away from others or getting it from others

Stamina - it may take a while don't know

Strength - fighting off someone

Teamwork - gotta help the partner

here are my ratings for them

Find - Good
Running - Avg
Scrappy - Good
Stamina- Excellent
Strength - Poor
Teamwork - Avg

whom ever I'm paired with I should be the one running with the bag and the other person would be my lead blocker to take out the others.

Autumn - when we match up do we need to say we're group #1, 2 & 3 or can we say we want player x & Y to go in against Hoopsguy and whomever his partner is for the challenge?


Hey SnDvls, I have excellent strength, so maybe I should pair up with you?

I don't know the find attribute would be very important because whoever finds it will probably be tackled almost immediately.

[J23]

I don't know the find attribute would be very important because whoever finds it will probably be tackled almost immediately.

That's an interesting point. I think my high scrappy skill along with an average find skill would make for a good pairing with someone that could run fast. I could concentrate on getting the bag (whether by finding it or taking it from the other team) and then throwing it to a teammate that could run with it back to our side.

[SnDvls]

ok so Racer and I will be a pair...now do we want to be team #1, 2 or 3 in the challenge?

[Greyroofoo]

I have good aim, maybe I can throw rocks at the other team to impede their progress.

[SnDvls]

doal - and who do we want to do the tie break?

[Racer]

doal - and who do we want to do the tie break?

I think whoever has the best scrappy skills given the description that Autumn gave of it.

[J23]

I have excellent scrappy skill, but with my health being rock bottom, I'm not sure I should be in the tie break.

[Greyroofoo]

I have pretty much average skills for this task and poor scrappiness, but good calm and teamwork. Maybe if I get paired with a good scrappy person he can fight the other team while I look for the bag.

[SnDvls]

Autumn - when will we know what our health has recovered back to?

[SnDvls]

sounds like I'd pair up Grey & J23 as another team

[Racer]

You just pick your pair. You don't know who you'll get matched up against.

ok so Racer and I will be a pair...now do we want to be team #1, 2 or 3 in the challenge?

I don't think we choose if I'm understanding Autumn's post correctly.

Also this is the challenge PM I sent to Autumn:

I will pair up with SnDvls in the challenge. He will most likely be the one running with the bag while I will be trying to be his lead blocker. I also wish to give extra effort in this challenge.

[Autumn]

Autumn - when will we know what our health has recovered back to?

Before the challenge happens, certainly. Probably well before that.

[SnDvls]

I don't think we choose if I'm understanding Autumn's post correctly.

Also this is the challenge PM I sent to Autumn:

I know we won't know who we battle, but we can say we'll be the 1st team to battle etc.

[Greyroofoo]

like i said, I have excellent calm so maybe that translates into being clutch, maybe I should go last?

[SnDvls]

like i said, I have excellent calm so maybe that translates into being clutch, maybe I should go last?

okay so Racer and I will go 1st as team #1

Danny and The Jackel will go as team #2

Grey & J23 will bring up the rear.

tiebreaker???? anyone???

[SnDvls]

Racer it's still you and me right?

[SnDvls]

Racer it's still you and me right?


BTW I was down to 1 health so I used all my points to rest last night...sorry guys no shelter work from me

[Racer]

Racer it's still you and me right?

Yeah. That's what I submitted, I'll have to resubmit that we're going 1st.

[Racer]

okay so Racer and I will go 1st as team #1

Danny and The Jackel will go as team #2

Grey & J23 will bring up the rear.

tiebreaker???? anyone???

Well J23 is apparently in poor health and I think your poor strength might hurt you in a 1 and 1 battle. Is anyone else good at being scrappy?

If not, my excellent strength, average speed, and average scrapyness might be our best shot, particularly since I'm putting extra effort into the challenge.

We have to decide fairly soon because I have to leave in about an hour and may or may not make it back before the deadline.

[SnDvls]

Yeah. That's what I submitted, I'll have to resubmit that we're going 1st.

here's what I sent in

racer and i as team 1

he will be my lead blocker after we find the bag. I will carry and run with the bag. If double teamed I'll pass it off to him and wait for the same from him as well.

pass- either via handoff or throwing towards him, but not towards the other team's finish either.

blocker - taking down out in any way necessary the other team. via physical force or violence and by any means necessary

thanks

[SnDvls]

like i said, I have excellent calm so maybe that translates into being clutch, maybe I should go last?

last as a team or tiebreak or both?

[SnDvls]

Autumn - can our tiebreak pair be a totally new unique pair?

[Racer]

Just reread it, it's one pair and not one person, so maybe SnDvls and I should be the tiebreaker pair.

[Autumn]

Autumn - can our tiebreak pair be a totally new unique pair?

It could be yes.

But now that it's not 1 in the morning and my head is working 3% better, it strikes me that I don't need a tiebreaker, as there are three pairs. I had it in my head somehow that there was an even number of pairs - shellshocked after the tribal vote I suppose. So don't worry about that really.

[SnDvls]

It could be yes.

But now that it's not 1 in the morning and my head is working 3% better, it strikes me that I don't need a tiebreaker, as there are three pairs. I had it in my head somehow that there was an even number of pairs - shellshocked after the tribal vote I suppose. So don't worry about that really.

ahh...ok I was thinking you'd have us do multiple runs i.e. V1 vs W1, v2 vs w2, v3 vs w3, then v1 vs w2 etc so everyone could run 2 times then there was a possible tie break.

[Racer]

here's what I sent in

racer and i as team 1

he will be my lead blocker after we find the bag. I will carry and run with the bag. If double teamed I'll pass it off to him and wait for the same from him as well.

pass- either via handoff or throwing towards him, but not towards the other team's finish either.

blocker - taking down out in any way necessary the other team. via physical force or violence and by any means necessary

thanks

Okay, sent Autumn and updated PM from me. This is what I sent him:

SnDvls and I will be team one.

I will be the lead blocker for him once we get the bag. He will carry and run with the bag. If he is doubled team, he will hand off the bag off to me and I will do the same if I am double teamed.

pass- either via handoff or throwing towards him, but not towards the other team's finish either.

blocker - taking down out in any way necessary the other team. via physical force or violence and by any means necessary

I also wish to put extra effort into this challenge.

[SnDvls]

Hi Jackal nice to see you check in today.

please send in a PM to Autum that you will team with Danny as team #2

[The Jackal]

I just woke up, I'm really really sick, terrible sore throat. Do you need to know my ratings? My physical stats are all average.

[The Jackal]

Alright, will do.

[SnDvls]

Jackal...if you can put in extra effort too

[Racer]

Well I'm out for awhile guys. Hopefully I can pop in around 4:20 or so.

[The Jackal]

I will attempt to put in extra effort, yes, to clarify is that part of our 3 daily points or something separate? I should know this by now but this cold is whooping me.

[Autumn]

Jackal - putting in extra challenge effort doesn't come out of your three points, no. What it does is cause you to lose more health than normal and put you at risk of an injury.

You all saw SnDvls put in a lot of effort at yesterday's challenge and by the end of the day he looked like he could barely move.

[The Jackal]

Aha, gotcha.

[SnDvls]

FYI I'm back up to 7 health for the day.

started at 10 did challenge, no fire, no shelter, ended day @ 1
rested all day and now back to 7.

[Greyroofoo]

I sent in my actions in case I'm not back later.

[The Jackal]

Yep I'm all set with actions.

[J23]

I'm back up to full health after resting today. I think I'll put in extra effort to try to ensure that we don't have to go to council again tonight.

[J23]

Here is what I am sending. Let me know if you think I should change anything.

"I will be teamed up with Greyroofoo.

I will be focused more on taking bags found by the other team and keeping them away from Grey while he searches. Any bags that I manage to get my hands on will be tossed to Grey if I can not easily make it myself."

[SnDvls]

Here is what I am sending. Let me know if you think I should change anything.

"I will be teamed up with Greyroofoo.

I will be focused more on taking bags found by the other team and keeping them away from Grey while he searches. Any bags that I manage to get my hands on will be tossed to Grey if I can not easily make it myself."

Sounds good

[SnDvls]

hi Danny....just to catch you up really quick

you and The Jackal are teaming up in the next challenge....you still need to PM Autumn that and give him a basic outline of how you want to handle the challenge.

[SnDvls]

looks like we have our plan in place we'll see what happens now

[Racer]

In for a few minutes.

Hope we win this thing.

[Racer]

Alright, I'm out. Should be back about 9:30 or so.

[Autumn]

I think I may have messed up your order, guys, of which teams went when. If so, I'm sorry. This has been a bear to run.

[The Jackal]

Danny and I were supposed to go second, yes.

[Autumn]

It's a long cold night without fire, and people aren't feeling great in the morning. SnDvls in particular is nursing a pulled muscle from the challenge, and a night of sitting out in teh cold and rain doesn't help. He spends most of the day in the water or on the beach, and by challenge time looks in much better shape, as does J23 who does the same. The tribe is worn out, down one member. A couple of people go out to find food, and bring home a little bit to go with yesterday's stores. It's not much but you had so much already, it's plenty for today (and probably tomorrow too).

A few people make an attempt to fix up the shelter before bed. They just manage to add some covering to the flimsy structure that was there. It's still cramped, damp and cold at night, but it at least keeps most of the rain off of you. It's going to need a lot more work to really keep you from the elements though.

Your food is more than adequate, your shelter's only rudimentary, and you still have no fire. It doesn't make for a good day on the beach. You each lose four health points.

[Autumn]

Danny and I were supposed to go second, yes.

I'm sorry about that, I don't know how I wrote it down wrong. If it's any salve, I hadn't planned on you guys being able to fix your order anyway, it was going to be random. I just decided your order was as random as anything so I'd let you pick.

[Autumn]

I will get back to anyone who expended extra effort about their health through private messages.

Remember you now have Tribal Council votes due, hopefully by 10:30. Since the challenge ran so long I'll be flexible if I need to be there.

You can now submit your Day 3 action points and get new PMs if you want.

[Autumn]

I edited the camp summary, I made a mistake about the food, but it now reads correctly.

[Greyroofoo]

I'm going to go take a dump in their campsite

[Autumn]

Note that you are aware that after this tribal council they will let you bring your torches back to camp, providing you with fire.

[Danny]

Well, at least we will get some fire here. We really need to start winning some challenges. Hopefully an upcoming challenge will be a better match for my skillset.

[SnDvls]

I'm done for the night, but my vote has been cast

[Autumn]

Remember to also submit your day 3 actions, everyone.

[Racer]

Alright, I misread yesterday's camp news (accidentally processed it as each person being at 6 points instead of four) so I'm now down to 1 point health point. I will be using most of my points on recuperating this time around.

Also, I have submitted my vote.

[Autumn]

Just so people know, I am trying to keep the current status of your camp up to date in the first post in this thread.

[J23]

Well, that stinks. I'll be putting some effort towards building up our camp tomorrow, provided I'm still around.

[Autumn]

Welcome back to Tribal Council, werewolves. Grab your torches and light them.

Tonight you will vote for the second member of your tribe to go home.

It's not 10:30 yet but I have all votes, so I figured I would open things early. If people are around to answer "Jeff's questions" it might be fun.

[Autumn]

You've lost two challenges in a row, camp life is tough. How would you describe the mood in the Werewolf Tribe right now?

[SnDvls]

It sucks right now

[Autumn]

It looks like a lot of you went all out in the challenge today, but couldn't pull out the win. What do you think is going on with your tribe in challenges?

[Autumn]

Hmm, a quiet bunch. At this stage in the game, what are you thinking about when you vote tonight? What do you base your vote on?

[Autumn]

All right, let's get to the vote. Your votes have been cast. If you have an immunity idol, now would be the time to play it.

[Autumn]

Then I'll read the votes.

The first vote cast is for:

J23

[Autumn]

The second vote is for:

The Jackal

[Autumn]

The third vote is for:

Danny

We have 1 vote J23, 1 vote Jackal, 1 vote Danny

[Autumn]

The fourth vote is for:

J23

[Autumn]

The fifth vote is for:

J23

We have 3 votes J23, 1 vote The Jackal, 1 vote Danny

[Autumn]

The sixth vote, and the second contestant voted out of Survivor: Island of FOFC is

J23

J23, come put out your torch. The tribe has spoken.

[Autumn]

Yesterday's challenge found the two tribes coming to blows in a display of aggression we've rarely seen on Survivor. Today the only contact we should see is accidental. But the stakes are high.

The winner of today's challenge will earn the immunity idol and avoid Tribal Council. In addition, they will earn the right to choose one member from the losing tribe to go to Exile Island. That person will spend the next 24 hours alone with only a machete and canteen, and will return only in time for tomorrow's challenge. The tribe will lose their help in camp, and they will likely come back worse for wear. However, there is the possibility that while on Exile Island they will learn a clue to the existence of a hidden immunity idol.

Today's challenge will require one caller and two teams of two from each tribe. The two teams will be blindfolded. The team will work in tandem to navigate this field and find the giant puzzle pieces waiting for them, and return them to their tower. The puzzle pieces are large enough to require both team members to carry them. The caller will sit on the tower and direct the two teams to find their tribe's puzzle pieces, and not those belonging to the other tribe, and navigate them back to the tower.

Ten pieces are required to complete the puzzle. Once all ten pieces are back, the tribe may take off their blindfold and begin as a team to work on the puzzle. This giant 3-D puzzle will need to be completely assembled. The first tribe to assemble their puzzle will win the challenge.

The Villagers will have to sit two contestants for this challenge. They cannot sit the same contestants twice in a row.

Please submit your plans to me by private message by 4:30 EST on Wednesday afternoon.

[Racer]

I'm going to bed here in a minute. That said, I think I should definitely be one of the blindfolded members.

As for the caller, I think calm is definitely an ability they should have. Not sure about others. I used two effort points on resting so I'm guessing I'll be around 5 or 6 for the challenge, but hopefully I'll be higher then that. Should I pair with SnDvls since he has weak strength or should I pair with someone with average strength?

Also, should we have someone in charge of telling people where to move the puzzle pieces? Maybe someone who is good/excellent at puzzles and remaining calm (if we have such a person).

[Racer]

Okay looking through the thread, I think SnDvls said he had an excellent calm rating, but is poor at strength. Unless I'm not considering something, I think he should definitely be our signal caller.

[Racer]

Last post before I head to bed. I think Greyroofoo said he is excellent at puzzles and being calm. I think he should be in charge of telling people where to move puzzle pieces tomorrow. We listen to him with the possibility of having an assistant puzzler person. That's my opinion anyways.

[Greyroofoo]

I have excellent puzzle, good teamwork, and excellent calm.

I think I should be the caller.

[The Jackal]

I am good at finding things but poor at putting puzzles together, so I think I should be one of the people trying to find stuff. Unless find rating would be influential from the perch on the tower.

[Racer]

I am good at finding things but poor at putting puzzles together, so I think I should be one of the people trying to find stuff. Unless find rating would be influential from the perch on the tower.

Alright got up for a few minutes. I think all four people who find stuff also put together the puzzle pieces.

[Racer]

I have excellent puzzle, good teamwork, and excellent calm.

I think I should be the caller.

This is something we need ask Autumn about. I think there are two questions I have about the caller:

1.) Is there a caller for the 2nd part of the challenge?
2.) Can we switch who the caller is for the 2nd part of the challenge (taking on a few penalty seconds for doing so).

I think SnDvls strengths and weaknesses (poor strength which is bad for the puzzle finders) make him our best option for the caller in the first part of the challenge.

If there is a caller in the 2nd phase of the challenge, I definitely think you should be in charge. Even if there isn't technically a caller, I think you should be designated leader.

[Racer]

I PMd Autumn about the question. Alright back to bed.

[Racer]

Guys, should I use extra effort on this challenge today? The first part of the challenge plays to my strength (excellent strength). However, I don't think I'm in great health (probably 5 or 6, haven't received a PM from Autumn yet to know how much I recuperated).

[Autumn]

This is something we need ask Autumn about. I think there are two questions I have about the caller:

1.) Is there a caller for the 2nd part of the challenge?
2.) Can we switch who the caller is for the 2nd part of the challenge (taking on a few penalty seconds for doing so).

There doesn't need to be a caller for the second portion, but that's certainly a possible strategy. If you choose to have one, it would not need to be the same person, nor would there be an delay in "switching."

[Racer]

This is something we need ask Autumn about. I think there are two questions I have about the caller:

1.) Is there a caller for the 2nd part of the challenge?
2.) Can we switch who the caller is for the 2nd part of the challenge (taking on a few penalty seconds for doing so).

I think SnDvls strengths and weaknesses (poor strength which is bad for the puzzle finders) make him our best option for the caller in the first part of the challenge.

If there is a caller in the 2nd phase of the challenge, I definitely think you should be in charge. Even if there isn't technically a caller, I think you should be designated leader.

I'm getting ready to leave for work (I'll check back in a little after two), but Autumn PMd be back.

Hi Racer,

There doesn't need to be a caller for the 2nd part, but it's certainly a strategy you could take. And that caller wouldn't have to be the same person, no problem there.

Also, I don't have a partner yet so if someone could figure out who it should be (I have average teamwork and excellent strength) that would be good because I'll only be able to check back in for 20-30 minutes when I do. Also, I'm currently at 5 health points apparently.

[Autumn]

You are all pretty exhausted through a combination of camp life and your efforts in yesterday's challenge. The Jackal, however, is particularly wiped out. His efforts to win the tiebreaker, up against Thomkal, left him with a sprained and swollen ankle. It seems to be going down during the day as he rests with it up in the air, but it was bad enough to receive attention from the Survivor medical staff. It looks, though, that by challenge time he'll be up and running again.

[Racer]

I'm out guys, but here is the placeholder PM I sent to Autumn

I wish to team up with Danny on the blindfold part of the challenge. On the second half of the challenge I will also move pieces with Danny. I will listen to Greyroofoo on where to move those pieces. At this time I wish to put in normal effort into this challenge.

Chose Danny because I'm also good at finding stuff (Jackal said he was as well so I don't think we should pair up) and there seems to be uncertainty on whether Greyroofoo or SnDvls should be our caller. I can change this later (also let me know if I should put extra effort into the challenge since I'm only at 5 health).

[Danny]

Im also excellent at puzzles, but not very good at finding stuff.

[SnDvls]

I think Greyfoo should do all the calling and be the lead on this challenge.

I'll team with Jackal.

I suggest we all put in extra effort points today cause if we don't win today then numbers start looking really bad.

[Danny]

What does extra effort cause to happen negatively?

[Autumn]

What does extra effort cause to happen negatively?

It causes an additional health loss and a risk of injury.

[The Jackal]

If I put in extra effort again I'm not going to be able to hunt again, but our food supplies can take the hit, yes? If all of us are putting in extra effort we're going to all be resting and not able to work on the camp and what not.

[The Jackal]

And why do I need survivor medical staff when there's a nurse in our camp!

[SnDvls]

And why do I need survivor medical staff when there's a nurse in our camp!

and a Brain Surgeon....I'd think I had some sort of basic medical training...no?

[Racer]

I think Greyfoo should do all the calling and be the lead on this challenge.

I'll team with Jackal.

I suggest we all put in extra effort points today cause if we don't win today then numbers start looking really bad.

Alright, I'll put in extra effort as well. I think most of us should keep our mouths shut on the second half and listen to Greyfoo, but should we have at one other person offering their imput on how to put together the puzzle to Greyfoo.

In my opinion, for this sort of thing, two minds are better then one but three is to many and leads to chaos.

[Racer]

This is the update challenge instructions I sent to Autumn:

I wish to team up with Danny on the blindfold part of the challenge. On the second half of the challenge I will also move pieces with Danny. I will listen to Greyroofoo on where to move those pieces. If our tribe decides to nominate someone to provide input to Greyroofoo as we put together the puzzle, I will listen to him as well. I will keep my mouth shut on the second half of this challenge. I wish to put extra effort into this challenge.

[The Jackal]

SnD what kind of actions you submitting so we can work similarly?

[Racer]

Alright, I didn't like how that PM sounded so I rewrote it and send Autumn a new PM:

I wish to team up with Danny on the blindfold part of the challenge. On the second half of the challenge I will also move pieces with Danny. I will listen to Greyroofoo on where to move those pieces. I will keep my mouth shut on the second half of the challenge unless I don't understand something that Greyroofoo tells me. If we decide to elect a second leader on this part of the challenge, I would listen to them as well. I wish to put extra effort into this challenge.

[Racer]

Im also excellent at puzzles, but not very good at finding stuff.

If you have a good calm rating or better, maybe you could be the one person who provides Greyroofoo with imput on how to put together the puzzle on the second half of the challenge (while moving pieces around). I think it is important that not many people talk on the 2nd half, but we'd probably be better off if one person was also helping in solving it.

Anyways, I'm out and won't be back until after 4:30 pm.

[SnDvls]

we work as a team of 5 to put the puzzle (according to the challenge post by Autumn) together so there isn't a need for a caller just a leader (Greyfoo)

Autumn if that isn't your intent I suggest you better word your challenge post

my PM to Autumn was pretty much the same as Racer's but putting Jackal's name in there

[Greyroofoo]

I think we may have this wrong, re-reading the challenge the caller should be a person with excellent FIND & TEAMWORK skills, I have average FIND.

I will gladly lead the second part of the challenge as I think I'm the best suited for that.

[Greyroofoo]

I sent in my action as leader of both parts of the challenge.

[Autumn]

Your third day on the island finds a tribe weary and worn out. Nearly everyone spends a good deal of the day laying under your rough shelter or in the water, trying to recover from a grueling challenge, and another cold night. Jackal in particular has to nurse his sprain. Luckily by the time of the challenge you all feel in much better shape.

You now have fire, bought through the loss of a second tribe member. That helps a great deal. In combination with your food stores, you have two thirds of what would make for a restful day on teh beach. However, your shelter ... well it lacks quite a bit. A couple of people make an effort to improve it, but it will take much more than that to make a difference in how it performs. It remains very rudimentary, and you spend the rainy time getting fairly wet again.

You each lose two health points due to your lack of complete shelter. (Your total will be altered after the challenge). No one added to your food stores today, so you are down to roughly one day's supply.

[SnDvls]

I think we may have this wrong, re-reading the challenge the caller should be a person with excellent FIND & TEAMWORK skills, I have average FIND.

I will gladly lead the second part of the challenge as I think I'm the best suited for that.

I think the finding part is only for the blindfolded ones as we can't see and you as the caller/leader can.

[SnDvls]

So who do we want to send to exile??? I vote HeyBrad....he seems week as a "character" and would suffer the most over there.

[Autumn]

Feel free to start planning the Exile Island thing. I will have you choose after Tribal Council, however, so as to be sure you're not sending someone already heading home.

[Autumn]

I will need you guys to come to consensus in thread about who to send.

[Autumn]

Or to make things easier, just pick a first and a second choice.

[SnDvls]

Or to make things easier, just pick a first and a second choice.

please see my post in the main thred. This is a big stratigic choice so picking after trible alters whom we're looking at.

I think we'd have to really see what the outcome is first before coming to a choice if that is the case so we'd need time after trible to decide. If you let us pick just prior to trible it would make it way more interesting.

[Greyroofoo]

I think we should vote chesapeake since he's the Boy Scout leader and is probably their best at finding camp and food.

[Racer]

Alright I think previous knowledge of how those players comes into play. I know Hoops is a really good player and I don't think we should send him.

What about the rest?

[Racer]

Basically, I think we should send whoever we think might be one of their weaker strategic players.

[Racer]

I think we should vote chesapeake since he's the Boy Scout leader and is probably their best at finding camp and food.

I'll go ahead and make this my place holder choice. Of the names from the list, the only ones I don't think I've ever played Werewolf with are Darth and MapleLeafs. I believe I have played against Chesapeake, but I don't remember ever doing or saying much.

[Danny]

I agree that we should not for a strong player. Hoops is out. Darth may not be bad candidate as his schedule makes it tough for him on some days.

[Danny]

Looking at their activity, I may vote for heybrad and take him out of the possible vote.