Breakout Kings: Werewolf Style (Game over - village wins)

[CrimsonFox]

If it weren't for his 4th vote on GE, tying it up post reveal to make it 4-4 when he could have gone julio or chubby, I would have said Zinto was someone to look at. After an early departure last game, I wouldn't think he'd be so quiet this game.
Unless he was trying to protect the cunning by sacrificing the brutal.
That seems a longshot though.

[CrimsonFox]

Britrock and Danny were my other thoughts to look today.
Both have voting issues and post issues.

Danny just seems off like he's in a haze going "huh? werewolf? What do I do?" I don't totally buy that. Of course he always says he's not good at being a wolf.

The mysteries after that are Chief and Pass. Both are posting and contributing but not much info about them. Chubby on the other hand. Just weird. I guess he was trying to draw out bhlloy who he thought was guilty. I GUESS that's why he didn't vote GE? Granted he didn't know GE was a wolf. But why did he leave his vote on b. Guess he was in that oldschool mind that b should move to GE immediately because that's how he SHOULD play when bhlloy doesn't play that way.

[Narcizo]

And there really isn't anything odd about his presence. He was almost certainly guarded last night, so the wolves went another direction. I think bhlloy is telling the truth.

Why didn't they just brutal kill him for the conversion? Maybe the wolves didn't realise that Charlie was already out. I mean, I didn't. But you'd have thought one would make that connection.

[Danny]

Why didn't they just brutal kill him for the conversion? Maybe the wolves didn't realise that Charlie was already out. I mean, I didn't. But you'd have thought one would make that connection.

Actually, that's a good point. Since I wasnt around I forgot about the brutal. I guess they thought he might have been someone who was still going to be targeted, but really, if it was me, I would have brutalized him as a wolf.

[CrimsonFox]

I still don't get Ronnie.

From the rules:
"Ronnie Marcum - You are a psychopath that serves only himself. You may become a runner if the need arises but at the start you are a convicted citizen who is viewed as a hero by many. Only you will know your win conditions."

"Starting as a convicted Citizen". That sounded to me like villager UNTIL he's converted, but someone disagreed I can't remember who. Was thinking wolves were scanning for him but maybe he just opos into wolf mode randomly? or maybe at a predetermined event like in Chubby's Cube game.

[CrimsonFox]

Narc, who sasys that the Autumn and LSG submissions weren't already submitted hours before and just weren't changed?

[CrimsonFox]

I was really waiting for Autumn to go sooner or now. And if he didn't I'd be suspicious, like...oh...who else would fit that category....hmmmm *whistles*

[Danny]

Vote Chief

[Narcizo]

Actually, that's a good point. Since I wasnt around I forgot about the brutal. I guess they thought he might have been someone who was still going to be targeted, but really, if it was me, I would have brutalized him as a wolf.

But there's really no point chasing this so sorry for harping on. If the seer doesn't reveal today and Bhlloy isn't dead tonight then he'll be getting the shifty eye tomorrow. Re-reading LoneStarGirl's post about Bhlloy possibly faking it, it certainly does like she got a message and presumed that Bhlloy was the sender, so this is a blind alley.

Which brings me back to Britrock and his amazing piggyback voting yesterday. :)

[Danny]

For today, I like Chief, Julio and Britrock to be the top vote getters. For now I think we lay off bhlloy as we still have time to get him if lying.

[Narcizo]

I was really waiting for Autumn to go sooner or now. And if he didn't I'd be suspicious, like...oh...who else would fit that category....hmmmm *whistles*

JAG? The bodyguard? Is it one of them? Is it?

[Danny]

unvote chief
vote britrock

[Danny]

SO far in order of trust, I think the following are villagers

Chubby
Jackal
CrimsonFox
Narcizo
Zinto

[Danny]

Still reviewing, but at this point I'd bet our two wolves are between britrock, Chief, Julio and Pass, with a slight chance at Narc

[CrimsonFox]

I was really waiting for Autumn to go sooner or now. And if he didn't I'd be suspicious, like...oh...who else would fit that category....hmmmm *whistles*

I'm talking about Danny. As in..."why is Danny still alive?" That Danny

[CrimsonFox]

The elephant in the room (he HAS been eating an awful lot lately)

[CrimsonFox]

how about coprock?

[Danny]

Relooked over what happened yesterday. Britrock is a wolf, book it

[Danny]

His wolf partner is probably Pass and maybe Chief, I also think this means Narc is a villager

[CrimsonFox]

Vote Chief

Something we can analyze now actually now that we know GE was bad and certain people were good. Was there an effort to save either Chief or Chubby when they were getting lots of lots yesterday.

[Narcizo]

Oi! Why not Zinto as he's under me on your trust list?

[Danny]

Based on objective means I probably am in the list of suspects as well based on my play day 1 and 2, especially since I do now think bh and julio are villagers.

[CrimsonFox]

I really do think britrock is a wolf. But now that Autumn is good it would mean, who chose JAG as the first kill?

I wouldn't think either brit or GE would. I cannot remember how often JAG and GE have played together and if GE would know how good JAG is except maybe from the last game people saying it.

[Danny]

There is a third wolf Crimson. If its Chief or Pass, they both know how good Jag is

[Danny]

btw, Julio could still be the convert, but I dont think he was a starting wolf.

[CrimsonFox]

Based on objective means I probably am in the list of suspects as well based on my play day 1 and 2, especially since I do now think bh and julio are villagers.

I'm of the thinking that the brutal/nk targets were already sent in before the gangbang on GE and just too much confusion to change.

The only other thought for LSG was that she was going after julio hard and if julio is a villager that would "make julio look bad" type of play

[Danny]

Narc, I actually think it's likely there were no wolves on to try and save GE. Britrock was already locked it and I think the other wolf being Pass or CR never did get online.

[Danny]

I'm of the thinking that the brutal/nk targets were already sent in before the gangbang on GE and just too much confusion to change.


I think so too which leads me to suspect Chief or Pass as the third wolf.

[Danny]

Day 1 voting

Darth Vilus 5 - Jackal (80), Chubby (131), britrock (221), bhlloy (224), Passacaglia (253)
Danny 3 - Chief Rum (103), Julio Ridols (178) GoldenEagle (229)
Narcizo 4 - LSG (132), Zinto (187), CrimsonFox(227), Autumn (268)
Julio Ridols 2 - Danny (157), JAG (255)
Bhlloy 2 - Narcizo (109)
The Jackal 1 - Darth Vilus (108)

[Danny]

Look at britrocks vote right there on DV. Since I believe Jackal and Chubby and bh at this point are all villagers, his day one vote looks real bad as well.

[Danny]

Also, not sure GE puts a vote on me if another wolf was already there. That leads me away from Chief a little (and Julio as well).

[Danny]

I also want to see if GE was around near deadline on day 1. If he is, I think that puts more trust on Narcizo as well as it would be awfully risky for him to leave his vote on me and not put it on DV

[CrimsonFox]

Votes on you Danny could actually be explained.
Chief's vote: being a smartass
Julio's vote: new and doesn't know you
GE: The wolf vote.

[Danny]

Hmm Pass' vote was also on me before he switched to DV, that would mean GE and Pass went boom boom on me day 1. Seems risky as wolves especially if they were not going to nk me at all

[CrimsonFox]

Pass's end of day shenagigans are just that. LIke last game. He's done it so many times it could be either wolf or villager.

Chief was joining in with me arguing with Chubby. Could that have been a trust-creating situation for him? Hell this is why I hate CHief. I can never read him.

[Danny]

I take it back on Narc, I have a gut feeling he is trying to bury brit now as his fellow wolf and Brit and Narc are the last two

[Danny]

Looking at day 1 really does not put Narc in a good light, especially if Brit is also a wolf.

[Danny]

For one, I believe all four voters on Narc are villagers. We know a wolf voted me and we Britrock voted Darth. Tough to believe there wouldnt have been a wolf on Narc

[Danny]

But there were certain events in the vote pattern that really ping me

[Danny]

Day One

#59 04:03 Narcizo votes Passacaglia (1)
#60 05:32 JAG votes bhlloy (1)
#68 06:56 JAG unvotes bhlloy (0)
#68 06:56 JAG votes Narcizo (1)
#72 07:02 Danny votes bhlloy (1)
#80 07:35 Jackal votes Darth Vilus (1)
#88 08:44 Britrock votes CrimsonFox (1)
#91 09:31 CrimsonFox votes Narcizo (2)
#96 11:20 Bhlloy votes Julio (1)
#98 12:09 Julio votes Jackal (1)
#103 13:16 Chief Rum votes Danny (1)

#108 14:37 Darth Vilus votes Jackal (2)
#109 15:02 Narcizo unvotes Passacaglia (0)
#109 15:02 Narcizo votes Bhlloy (2)
#110 15:04 LoneStarGirl votes Jackal (3)
#117 15:16 LoneStarGirl unvotes Jackal (2)
#131 17:00 Chubby votes Darth Vilus (2)
#132 17:11 LoneStarGirl votes Narcizo (3)
#133 17:26 JAG unvotes Narcizo (2)
#133 17:26 JAG votes Julio (2)
#138 18:04 Passacaglia votes Danny (2)

#144 19:00 Autumn votes Julio (3)
#152 19:19 Zinto votes Bhlloy (3)
#156 19:33 Julio unvotes Jackal (1)
#156 19:33 Julio votes Bhlloy (4)
#157 19:37 Danny unvotes Bhlloy (3)
#157 19:37 Danny votes Julio (4)
#176 20:39 Julio unvotes Bhlloy (2)
#176 20:39 Julio votes Danny (3)
#178 20:41 JAG unvotes Julio (3)
#187 20:55 Zinto unvotes Bhlloy (1)
#187 20:55 Zinto votes Narcizo (3)
#188 20:56 Bhlloy unvotes Julio (2)
#188 20:56 Bhlloy votes CrimsonFox (2)

#196 21:13 JAG votes Bhlloy (2)
#197 21:15 CrimsonFox unvotes Narcizo (2)
#197 21:15 CrimsonFox votes Bhlloy (3)
#199 21:15 Britrock unvotes CrimsonFox (1)
#221 21:32 Britrock votes Darth Vilus (3)
#224 21:34 Bhlloy unvotes Crimson Fox (1)
#224 21:34 Bhlloy votes Darth Vilus (4)
#226 21:36 CrimsonFox unvotes Bhlloy (2)
#226 21:36 CrimsonFox votes Narcizo (3)
#229 21:39 GoldenEagle votes Danny (4)
#253 21:52 Passa unvotes Danny (3)
#253 21:52 Passa votes Darth Vilus (5)
#255 21:53 JAG unvotes Bhlloy (2)
#255 21:53 JAG votes Julio (3)
#268 21:57 Autumn unvotes Julio (2)
#268 21:57 Autumn votes Narcizo (4)

Darth Vilus 5 - Jackal (80), Chubby (131), britrock (221), bhlloy (224), Passacaglia (253)
Danny 3 - Chief Rum (103), Julio Ridols (178) GoldenEagle (229)
Narcizo 4 - LSG (132), Zinto (187), CrimsonFox(227), Autumn (268)
Julio Ridols 2 - Danny (157), JAG (255)
Bhlloy 2 - Narcizo (109)
The Jackal 1 - Darth Vilus (108)

[Danny]

When GoldenEagle voted me, it was right after someone put a 3rd vote on Narc, making it DV 4, Narc 3 and Danny 3. He then swung a vote over to me, making it DV 4, Danny 4 and Narc 3. Looks like he was trying to make sure Narc wasn't one of the top two candidates.

[Danny]

I'm definitely willing to go Brit first, just throwing that Narc info out there. I think he needs to be right there in the suspect list with me

[CrimsonFox]

why do you think chubby is the most trusted villager right now?

[Narcizo]

For one, I believe all four voters on Narc are villagers. We know a wolf voted me and we Britrock voted Darth. Tough to believe there wouldnt have been a wolf on Narc

It would be odd but the possibility is that Darth Vilus was an unknown while I revealed as vanilla. If I was a wolf I'd take a lynch of a potential role over me.

[Danny]

why do you think chubby is the most trusted villager right now?

His behavior largely plus his votes, though it largely dependent on britrock being a wolf. If brit is a wolf which I feel pretty sure of, I definitely dont think Chubby is

[CrimsonFox]

There is a third wolf Crimson. If its Chief or Pass, they both know how good Jag is

That's my point. So separating these out...

Would vote for JAG #1:
Danny
Narcizo
bhlloy
CrimsonFox
Zinto

I'm not sure but know JAG is good:
Passacaglia
Chief Rum
Jackal

Probably not vote JAG first:
Chubby
GoldenEagle
LSG


Probably didn't make the call or else did it on hearsay:
britrock
Julio Ridols

[CrimsonFox]

hell that really doesn't help things. Except maybe that I am having a hard time seeing a britrock/Chubby/GE group of wolves.

[Danny]

Your list isn't completely accurate. If I was a wolf, I would kill my villager self #1

[Danny]

hell that really doesn't help things. Except maybe that I am having a hard time seeing a britrock/Chubby/GE group of wolves.

Yeah, I really really dont see that. I definitely want to see britrock hang today. It will help us a lot, plus he's a wolf anyway

[CrimsonFox]

Your list isn't completely accurate. If I was a wolf, I would kill my villager self #1

like evil abed killing good abed

[CrimsonFox]

Yeah, I really really dont see that. I definitely want to see britrock hang today. It will help us a lot, plus he's a wolf anyway

LOL. Okay so now you sound like you. BUt where were you day one and a half. personal stuff still? You seemed out of it...or full of it (it being wolf)

[Narcizo]

Your list isn't completely accurate. If I was a wolf, I would kill my villager self #1

Not if you had been a contender you wouldn't. I wouldn't argue that all things being equal I wouldn't advocate JAG. But if you're looking at less experienced wolves then they may be trying a tactical nightkill.

[CrimsonFox]

Not if you had been a contender you wouldn't. I wouldn't argue that all things being equal I wouldn't advocate JAG. But if you're looking at less experienced wolves then they may be trying a tactical nightkill.

...and that means?

[CrimsonFox]

I feel sorry for Danny. He has no votes.

VOTE DANNY

[CrimsonFox]

There now he's popular

[Danny]

LOL. Okay so now you sound like you. BUt where were you day one and a half. personal stuff still? You seemed out of it...or full of it (it being wolf)

I actually had a great day Monday since I got the job I wanted. But during the day when I am at home my grandmother is awake and I spend my day trying to keep my frustration in and be nice to her. During these hours, she is sleeping and am much more relaxed and happy.

[Narcizo]

...and that means?

Not sure. Wrote it in the waiting room at the doctors. I think it meant I would be down with killing JAG as a wolf but that there are other factors that effect the decision.

[Danny]

I feel sorry for Danny. He has no votes.

VOTE DANNY

Yay! I have a vote now!

[CrimsonFox]

Ah I'm guessing she yells a lot. My dad's like that.

[Danny]

like evil abed killing good abed

Exactly

[CrimsonFox]

Not sure. Wrote it in the waiting room at the doctors. I think it meant I would be down with killing JAG as a wolf but that there are other factors that effect the decision.


Can't you answer any question in less than 4 words? :)

[CrimsonFox]

Exactly

I loved the finales. The video game one was awesome. The finale was good too. Ocean's 11 had good moments. whenever they give Leonard a line it's just a winner!

Wondering what next sesason will be like. With Harmon gone I'm wondering if they actually go back into like classrooms and stuff.
I kinda hope so. If every episode is so huge then none of them are. I'm kinda thinking they'll bring Harmon back eventually. Cause NBC is dumb and has to be told how to be smart.

[Danny]

Ah I'm guessing she yells a lot. My dad's like that.

No, just micromanages everything. I make a sandwich and when I take out the mayonaisse, as soon as I set it down so I can pick up the bread she tries to squeeze in, picks it up and asks me if I need the mayonnaise. And everytime I walk anywhere she comments how either my feet must be cold or I am going to go sliding and fall and then tells me its not healthy for me and I need to wear shoes. Those are two of hundreds of examples lol.

I love her and I am far more patient then anyone else in my family, but my breaking point was about three months of living here and taking care of her.

[Narcizo]

I don't think .... I can.

[Narcizo]

Oh yeah quotes I remember why one should use them.

[Danny]

And her memory is gone, so she doesn't remember that she did the same thing 10 seconds ago. I've never yelled at her (I rarely yell anyway), but man have I been tempted. The worst was when she tried to spank me because I didn't listen to her and come inside the house once it started to get dark.

[CrimsonFox]

No, just micromanages everything. I make a sandwich and when I take out the mayonaisse, as soon as I set it down so I can pick up the bread she tries to squeeze in, picks it up and asks me if I need the mayonnaise. And everytime I walk anywhere she comments how either my feet must be cold or I am going to go sliding and fall and then tells me its not healthy for me and I need to wear shoes. Those are two of hundreds of examples lol.

I love her and I am far more patient then anyone else in my family, but my breaking point was about three months of living here and taking care of her.

You eat too much mayonaisse anyway. Listen to your wise grandmother. That stuff will turn your feet blue.

[Danny]

You eat too much mayonaisse anyway. Listen to your wise grandmother. That stuff will turn your feet blue.

haha, I probably do though. It goes on all my sandwiches

[CrimsonFox]

haha, I probably do though. It goes on all my sandwiches


I'd spank you too for that. mayo bad Miracle Whip good.

[Danny]

I'd spank you too for that. mayo bad Miracle Whip good.

ewww

[Danny]

Though I am sure you like to spank it and then eat the miracle whip afterwards

[CrimsonFox]

Though I am sure you like to spank it and then eat the miracle whip afterwards

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[Danny]

Really though, she is lucky I put on shorts / pants. Previously my daily house attire was boxers and maybe a tank top undershirt.

[Danny]

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haha

[CrimsonFox]

If you did that she would tell you to fetch her a switch.

[CrimsonFox]

hey JAG we're talking about you.

[Danny]

I think its a good thing I dont know what that means

[Danny]

Wow Crimson, you voted not on Jessica Biel?

[JAG]

I don't think my name has ever been mentioned so much in a WW game.

[JAG]

Also, I can admit I never saw the mayo vs. Miracle Whip debate coming day 3, complete surprise to me. I never use either myself.

[CrimsonFox]

Wow Crimson, you voted not on Jessica Biel?

I had to. She likes mayonaisse

[CrimsonFox]

EF we've decided to stop playing and play a different game.

[CrimsonFox]

I had to. She likes mayonaisse


That's all she eats actually. Diet mayonaisse and botox

[Danny]

Yeah I didnt get that comment. She used to be pretty skinny, but she seems pretty filled out nw

[CrimsonFox]

Hi Zinto! We are waiting to hear some Zintantics from you!

[Zinto]

I agree that the seer should reveal today. If in bhlloy is Ray then he is going to get night killed tonight and the seer will probably be instantly converted so his information will be useless.

[Zinto]

Hi Zinto! We are waiting to hear some Zintantics from you!


I am up too early and will probably nap all day so this is the best time to post!(I love summer vacation):)

[Zinto]

I guess I still don't 100 percent trust Chubby's off the wall push to get GE lynched. I guess if the choices were him as a known to himself villager against GE he made the correct decision of not going down without a fight.

[Zinto]

If bhlloy is Ray and gets night killed tonight does it mean we have to lynch Danny since he is alive on day four? ;)

[Zinto]

Well unless he gets the votes today and gets lynched. That being said I need to go reread but right now I would not vote for him today.

[CrimsonFox]

So Zinto what happened to you day 1 and 2? WHere'd ya go?

[CrimsonFox]

Hey Chubby! Catch up on all the usefulness.

[Zinto]

So Zinto what happened to you day 1 and 2? WHere'd ya go?


I don't have great excuses. Monday I completely zoned on the fact I was in a game so was not around much and yesterday I posted in the spurts that I was on the computer. Today is looking more like Zintastic day.

[CrimsonFox]

You're right. Those excuses suck. Get some better ones.

[Autumn]

EF we've decided to stop playing and play a different game.

lol

[Chubby]

Hey Chubby! Catch up on all the usefulness.

At work I try to stay current but can't post unless I'm running errands (like now). Much easier to catch up on a page vs 6 pages of reading after work.

[bhlloy]

Morning all. I hadn't wondered why the wolves didn't just brutal me, but it's a good question. Wonder if they either couldn't or they had a conditional in that didn't get changed after the reveal.

As for the thoughts so far, britrock or Zinto seem like OK choices to me if a little uninspiring. I do go along with the thought that there has to be an experienced wolf in there to read LSG's signal that she was the BG and kill JAG/Autumn. So one of CF, Danny, Jackal, Pass and CR. If you guys have decided on the last two I could put a vote there as well. I think I just named the entire list of people left in the game, lol

I believe from the writeup that the seer will lose his power the next night, so if he doesn't have anything good he could probably wait a day. Can't confirm that right now though so if anyone else wants to, cool

[CrimsonFox]

hey bhlloy, that reminds me. What signal are you talking about from LSG. Can't find any signals. HOw early in the day was it. Cause we are still working with the theory that the orders merely didn't change due to people not being around/no time to change/confusion.

And Narc keeps talking about powers and such of Ray. Do you have powers that help you? Have you used them?

[bhlloy]

Post #642 CF. Seemed like a textbook case of somebody asking for advice, I thought it was pretty clear she was asking if she should guard me tonight or not because she thought it was a fake reveal.

As for powers, I can send 1 PM a day but not all of it will get through. Other than that, nothing interesting. From the writeup, once I die roled villagers start to lose their powers a night at a time and 1 will become a wolf. It was also confirmed to me in PM at the start of the game that Charlie was out and I assumed his responsibilities.

[bhlloy]

I'd rather not say who I've sent PM to and what I said, because I don't want to have furries going back through the events of the last couple of days and trying to figure stuff out.

[Passacaglia]

So I've got almost ten pages to catch up on (even if two of them are about mayonnaise), and I promised some people I'd get some work done by noon. Smell you later.

[CrimsonFox]

Smell ya NOW! :)

unvote danny
vote pass

[Passacaglia]

Dude, y'all have enough going on it seems like, you don't want to mess with voting for me.

[bhlloy]

The thought that LSG was an accident and that's why I didn't get NK/brutal'ed is interesting. Definitely plausible and something I didn't think of. Hell of a good guess though unless she was hinting it at it earlier in the day

If that's the theory we are going for, I'll go here for now. Absent around deadline/post reveal but easily good enough player to read something off LSG in the previous days

Vote CR

[Passacaglia]

Oh, since the brutal was brought up, my thoughts on last night are that GE figured that bhlloy wouldn't go down, so maybe he (as the brutal) sacrificed himself to save whoever was next in line? (Sorry if that was already mentioned)

[The Jackal]

Sorry guys I've been swamped at work, just used my break to catch up on the thread.

Went with behavior I didn't like yesterday in voting for GE, I think for now I'm going to do that again.

VOTE BRITROCK

[The Jackal]

Going to dinner/grocery shopping after work tonight, so again I will be a bit sparse. Will try and get some thoughts in during lunch.

[Passacaglia]

Wow, this thread died. There's two pages from 5:30 am to 10:30 am, then none in the last hour? What gives?

[Narcizo]

I'd rather not say who I've sent PM to and what I said, because I don't want to have furries going back through the events of the last couple of days and trying to figure stuff out.

I've been thinking about that and you might have to. Think about it. If the seer reveals then he knows he's going to be converted and lynched as a wolf. Why will he want to give any information in that case? It's a tricky part of the rule. The options are that the seer comes out and we lynch him today which is the best option. Or you tell us who the seer is.

[bhlloy]

Well my only PM to the seer was to tell him who I was, so look for somebody possibly defending me in the face of everybody else. That being said, I still read the rules as the seer has one more night after I get NK so I would hope the seer comes out tomorrow and give themselves up after getting one more scan in

[Passacaglia]

Well my only PM to the seer was to tell him who I was, so look for somebody possibly defending me in the face of everybody else. That being said, I still read the rules as the seer has one more night after I get NK so I would hope the seer comes out tomorrow and give themselves up after getting one more scan in

why would you rather not have said that?

[bhlloy]

Because its info that could be used to identify the seer or at least give a better shot of seer hunting. But as Narc says the seer is gonna be a wolf soon, so it doesn't really matter either way

[Julio Riddols]

So would it make sense for us to lynch the seer today so the wolves don't get to have them around? I mean essentially it would be the same as killing a wolf.. Right?

[Julio Riddols]

And let me say, jeez that was a lot of reading to catch up.

[Passacaglia]

Because its info that could be used to identify the seer or at least give a better shot of seer hunting. But as Narc says the seer is gonna be a wolf soon, so it doesn't really matter either way

Okay. I don't see how that could be used to identify the seer, but I also don't see how the seer is gonna be a wolf soon, so I guess there's a lot I don't know about this game.

[bhlloy]

So would it make sense for us to lynch the seer today so the wolves don't get to have them around? I mean essentially it would be the same as killing a wolf.. Right?

From rereading the character descriptions, yes it seems like if I die tonight by tomorrow our seer becomes a wolf. So ideally the seer reveals today. Of course you guys don't know I'm telling the truth so it's tricky. I was hoping for a scenario where the seer could reveal after I died. You could probably achieve that by lynching me today and then the seer reveals befor night actions are complete. However, that would give the wolves an extra NK to use and there's no guarantee the seer would be around or cooperative anyway

[bhlloy]

Really seems like the big question is whether the seer would rather die a villager or live a wolf

[Narcizo]

Because its info that could be used to identify the seer or at least give a better shot of seer hunting. But as Narc says the seer is gonna be a wolf soon, so it doesn't really matter either way

So you don't actually know who the seer is?

[bhlloy]

I have no idea, no. I can send PM to roles villagers but I'm not told who they are

[Narcizo]

Wow, this thread died. There's two pages from 5:30 am to 10:30 am, then none in the last hour? What gives?

The Crimson and Danny roadshow has left the building.

[Narcizo]

I have no idea, no. I can send PM to roles villagers but I'm not told who they are

Ahhh gotcha.

It would be funny if a wolf fake reveals as the seer and we believe him and lynch him anyway. :)

[bhlloy]

I could make a pretty decent guess at who I think the seer could be, based on play style and the fact that he seemed to support me the two days I was up for lynch, and that's CF. But it's just a guess

[Passacaglia]

Really seems like the big question is whether the seer would rather die a villager or live a wolf

Okay, looked at the rules and I see it now. Of course they would rather live as a wolf.

[Narcizo]

Ahhh I thought it was a night power - it was a day power.

I really am off my game this game.

[GoldenEagle]

Wow, this thread died. There's two pages from 5:30 am to 10:30 am, then none in the last hour? What gives?

Autumn and I were eliminated.

[bhlloy]

Of course there is just as much chance a smart seer sees the writing on the wall and does everything to distance himself from me

This must be the first time in WW we have been trying to lynch the seer, no?

[Passacaglia]

Autumn and I were eliminated.

Maybe you jerks shouldn't have been posting so much 5-10 hours after you died!

[Narcizo]

I'm going to sleep. Crap day today personally.

[Passacaglia]

Of course there is just as much chance a smart seer sees the writing on the wall and does everything to distance himself from me

This must be the first time in WW we have been trying to lynch the seer, no?

Yeah -- it's so annoying that the info about who is wolves and who isn't will be in wolf hands now!

[Passacaglia]

I'm going to sleep. Crap day today personally.

Sorry to hear man, hope the next few are better.

[The Jackal]

My thoughts about the seer convert - this was dependent on both Charlie and Ray dying. It seems a bit excessive now that only one of those roles was actually in the game, no?

[The Jackal]

I don't know about lynching the seer today. But if they don't come out with who they scanned today will we be able to trust it when they do?

[bhlloy]

Well presumably they won't come out at all, seeing as they would be admitting to being a wolf in doing so

I agree I think the powers are wildly excessive. I knew once I was found out the game would be pretty much over. But it was confirmed to me via PM and I've seen nothing since to suggest those effects won't take place

[britrock88]

Do we have any clue about the seer's identity, so we can react in any case if/when bhlloy is killed?

As for the votes on me so far today, I don't know what to say. I'm a citizen, so there's that. As for the day 1 voting, I wasn't up to speed on the thread and had little to go on, so when Autumn (IIRC) offered an explanation and moved to Narcizo, I trusted Autumn enough to want to move... only I was a minute late. Yesterday, after bhlloy's reveal, I followed his lead in moving to Chubby.

If you want to blame my lack of originality in voting on being a wolf, that's understandable, I guess. But consider that it's much more likely that I'm just a new player who was pretty chastened by what happened in Portal. I apparently said too much there and was lynched for it. Now, here, I'm trying not to put my foot in my mouth, and that gets votes. I wish I could learn how to be a villager before being eyed as a wolf multiple times.

[Zinto]

I was hoping we would not discuss the option of the seer not coming out since they would become a wolf soon. I figured we might get lucky and someone would reveal without thinking about that.

[Zinto]

So, if the seer decides not to reveal we are going to be in a tough spot. If their are two conversions then we are going to be sitting at end game pretty soon so we have to make today count.

[Julio Riddols]

Well, we know who isn't the seer, and that is bhlloy.

The one thing this does give us is a better chance to get a "wolf" though. Then there's also whoever is Ronnie, who apparently can beat everyone in some fashion, or choose to join us or the wolves...

We have a what.. about a 50/50 chance at lynching someone who could be considered a threat (if you include Ronnie as a potential threat) ?

[Zinto]

Do we have any clue about the seer's identity, so we can react in any case if/when bhlloy is killed?

As for the votes on me so far today, I don't know what to say. I'm a citizen, so there's that. As for the day 1 voting, I wasn't up to speed on the thread and had little to go on, so when Autumn (IIRC) offered an explanation and moved to Narcizo, I trusted Autumn enough to want to move... only I was a minute late. Yesterday, after bhlloy's reveal, I followed his lead in moving to Chubby.

If you want to blame my lack of originality in voting on being a wolf, that's understandable, I guess. But consider that it's much more likely that I'm just a new player who was pretty chastened by what happened in Portal. I apparently said too much there and was lynched for it. Now, here, I'm trying not to put my foot in my mouth, and that gets votes. I wish I could learn how to be a villager before being eyed as a wolf multiple times.

Don't worry about talking too much. Eventually people will began to see how you play and you won't get lynched for it. Every game some villager is going to vote poorly or say something that someone doesn't like and get lynched for it. It is why werewolf is so much fun :)

[The Jackal]

Well presumably they won't come out at all, seeing as they would be admitting to being a wolf in doing so

I agree I think the powers are wildly excessive. I knew once I was found out the game would be pretty much over. But it was confirmed to me via PM and I've seen nothing since to suggest those effects won't take place

If they came out today, they would still be a villager. Suppose it's a question of if they'd rather make a sacrifice to help the team they started the game with, or stay quiet with the knowledge that they are likely being forced to switch teams soon.

[The Jackal]

Do we have any clue about the seer's identity, so we can react in any case if/when bhlloy is killed?

As for the votes on me so far today, I don't know what to say. I'm a citizen, so there's that. As for the day 1 voting, I wasn't up to speed on the thread and had little to go on, so when Autumn (IIRC) offered an explanation and moved to Narcizo, I trusted Autumn enough to want to move... only I was a minute late. Yesterday, after bhlloy's reveal, I followed his lead in moving to Chubby.

If you want to blame my lack of originality in voting on being a wolf, that's understandable, I guess. But consider that it's much more likely that I'm just a new player who was pretty chastened by what happened in Portal. I apparently said too much there and was lynched for it. Now, here, I'm trying not to put my foot in my mouth, and that gets votes. I wish I could learn how to be a villager before being eyed as a wolf multiple times.

The main thing with getting votes is that you are basically being forced to explain yourself. We want to hear what you say, because tone and reasoning is a part of how you analyze people in the game, just as their votes are.

[Julio Riddols]

I'm feeling about the same way, I figure its just a thing veterans are conditioned to look for in what would normally be a wolf. They are used to veteran wolf behavior, so when a new villager comes in and unintentionally exhibits that behavior, they catch the veteran eyes.

That's what I assume happened with LSG being so aggressive going after me yesterday, but I had no idea what part of what I was saying was giving her that impression. As I learn, I do also find myself noticing slight differences in peoples styles, so eventually I hope to be able to pick up on those nuances as well.

Right now, from where I am looking at things everything is still a bit of a crapshoot. I am thinking maybe Chief is Ronnie now, which would apparently be a great role to put him in. I still don;t know what to think about chubby either, and I am new like britrock, so making a read on him is something I don't feel great about right now. I think we both have said and done things at points that made us look suspicious to someone or another.. But I don;t know how much stock to put in that yet.

With bhlloy revealed, LSG out, and chubby and Chief left for me to be wary of, I am trying to decide between those 2. Autumn is also intriguing as a possible seer, IMO.

[Julio Riddols]

Haha.. Wow I am retarded. Autumn is out. No wonder he hasn't said much.

[Julio Riddols]

Never mind the seer stuff then, I am just trying to pick from Chief and Chubby, thinking one is a wolf and one is Ronnie.

[britrock88]

I didn't expect bhlloy to move to Chubby yesterday, I'll say that, but I figured bhlloy was possibility in a position to indicate to us something about Chubby by moving his vote there. I didn't have a feel on Chubby one way or the other. But at that point, there wasn't much momentum on Julio as Ronnie, so I thought the best play was to move to Chubby with bhlloy in order to highlight that move (especially because, like myself, bhlloy moved off Julio to vote Chubby).

[britrock88]

Back in a couple hours, hopefully.

[bhlloy]

britrock - there was nothing special behind my move to chubby yesterday over GE. I have no special insight other than I thought it would be a better move. In hindsight that obviously doesn't appear To have been the case. Follow my lead at your peril

[Chubby]

I agree that I doubt the seer will out themselves since it then makes them a target. bhlloy is obviously toast if he isn't NKd tonight.

let's try vote CF

[The Jackal]

I agree that I doubt the seer will out themselves since it then makes them a target. bhlloy is obviously toast if he isn't NKd tonight.

let's try vote CF

The whole "do i want to live longer" or "do i want the village to have a better chance of winning" argument is something a seer has to deal with in every game. But never is it so clear cut as this.

Outing themselves makes them a NK target but if they don't out themselves they are basically helping the wolves while still a villager. What an interesting predicament. Either they reveal and get lynched today/tomorrow or they don't reveal and we seethe at them throughout and after the game. ;)

[The Jackal]

This whole debate is pretty distracting from voting for people based on past days. Do we have an updated vote count?

[The Jackal]

I'm not sure what time I'll get home. Probably something like 9:30, but not positive .. will try and see what's going on then.

[The Jackal]

Hopefully the vibes I'm getting from brit are new player vibes and not wolfy vibes.

unvote brit
vote CR

[The Jackal]

And I'm off for now

[Julio Riddols]

Seems like Chief has some traction, and I don't think he is a wolf, but the possibility that he is Ronnie makes me feel ok with voting for him. I know this seems like it might be a nice convenient piggy back, but I've been thinking about it for several hours now. I still think its between him and Chubby - one of them I don't think will be good to leave alive.

For now,

VOTE CHIEF RUM

[Zinto]

Has CR checked in today? I would like to hear from him since he is getting votes.

[Zinto]

Voting for Danny doesn't make sense to me just based on voting history. GE put the fourth vote for him on day one tying him with DV at the time for the lead.

[Zinto]

I guess looking back at the voting I feel better about Chubby(sort of), he was someone people were piling on and GE put a third vote on him when he could have voted for bhlloy.

[Zinto]

Julio's vote on Chubby and my vote on bhlloy when GE had three votes look really bad. Julio is where I am going to go with my vote since I know I am a villager.

Vote Julio

[Julio Riddols]

I just never thought GE was a wolf, although between him and Autumn it sure seemed like one might be.

[Julio Riddols]

It was like they met on the street and had a nice little firefight with no winners.

[Danny]

I've been thinking about that and you might have to. Think about it. If the seer reveals then he knows he's going to be converted and lynched as a wolf. Why will he want to give any information in that case? It's a tricky part of the rule. The options are that the seer comes out and we lynch him today which is the best option. Or you tell us who the seer is.

Then the seer can go screw himself. Right now the seer is a villager, he needs to do what is best for the village. Not this hedge your bets type thing.

[Chief Rum]

Has CR checked in today? I would like to hear from him since he is getting votes.

I have actually checked in several times today, but I have not posted. Mostly because I am working, and I didn't have a good feel for the previous night's actions just yet.

I am still evaluating my vote as well.

I'm not Ronnie, although I agree it sounds like the perfect role for me (my WW persona anyway).

[Chief Rum]

Then the seer can go screw himself. Right now the seer is a villager, he needs to do what is best for the village. Not this hedge your bets type thing.

I agree that this is how I would handle it. Until I am a wolf, I am a villager, and I should play like one.

But I recognize that is for each player themselves to decide how they would handle that.

[Danny]

If they came out today, they would still be a villager. Suppose it's a question of if they'd rather make a sacrifice to help the team they started the game with, or stay quiet with the knowledge that they are likely being forced to switch teams soon.

If they are playing to hedge their bets, I personally will verbally berate them once the game is over.

[Danny]

I agree that this is how I would handle it. Until I am a wolf, I am a villager, and I should play like one.

But I recognize that is for each player themselves to decide how they would handle that.

I understand, obviously I don't really wish for them to go screw themselves (though there's nothing wrong with that if they do ;).

But yes, the choice seems obvious in regards to what I would personally do.

[Danny]

Voting for Danny doesn't make sense to me just based on voting history. GE put the fourth vote for him on day one tying him with DV at the time for the lead.

I am Danny and I approve of this message!

[Danny]

My votes not changing pending some kind of reveal.

[britrock88]

Tally!

740 03:57 Narcizo britrock 1
758 06:49 Danny Chief Rum 1
762 06:52 Danny un Chief Rum 0
Danny britrock 2
804 07:46 CF Danny 1
852 11:15 CF un Danny 0
CF Pass 1
854 11:17 bhlloy Chief Rum 1
856 11:30 Jackal britrock 3
901 17:46 Jackal un britrock 2
Jackal Chief Rum 2
903 17:55 Julio Chief Rum 3
907 18:26 Zinto Julio 1

[britrock88]

Well, that's a record, actually. The tally:

CR - 3 - bhlloy, Jackal, Julio
britrock - 2 - Narcizo, Danny
Pass - 1 - CF
Julio - 1 - Zinto

Did I miss anything? Today covers bottom of p. 14 through here.

[Chubby]

Missing my vote at the very least

[Julio Riddols]

I'm good with Danny too based on the fairly reasonable justification mentioned before, and I guess unless the seer reveals themselves and sacrifices themselves, my vote will either be on Chief or chubby. Sticking with Chief for now.

[britrock88]

Crap. I did miss that Chubby voted CF in post 897.

[britrock88]

CR - 3 - bhlloy, Jackal, Julio
britrock - 2 - Narcizo, Danny
Pass - 1 - CF
CF - 1 - Chubby
Julio - 1 - Zinto

Thanks for the heads-up, Chubby.

[britrock88]

That's double-checked now. Myself, Pass, and Chief left to vote.

[Zinto]

Looks like no one is talking and no one is going for Julio so...

Unvote Julio

[Zinto]

I think I am going to vote Britrock. I am going to assume that Chief is going to vote for Britrock and Britrock is going to vote for Chief so we will be sitting even here with two hours left.

Vote Britrock

[Danny]

Hopefully the vibes I'm getting from brit are new player vibes and not wolfy vibes.

unvote brit
vote CR

Forget vibes, look At the votes. Ill be shocked if brit isnot a wolf

[CrimsonFox]

before i forget

unvote pass
vote brit

[Chubby]

awwwwwwfully quiet

[EagleFan]

As of post 928:

britrock88 4 - Narcizo (740), Danny (762), Zinto (925), CrimsonFox (927)
Chief Rum 4 - bhlloy (854), Chubby (897), The Jackal (901), Julio Ridols (903)

Yet to vote: God, others...

[EagleFan]

As of post 928:

britrock88 4 - Narcizo (740), Danny (762), Zinto (925), CrimsonFox (927)
Chief Rum 3 - bhlloy (854), The Jackal (901), Julio Ridols (903)
CrimsonFox 1 - Chubby (897)

Yet to vote: God, others...

[EagleFan]

Sorry, saw CF and read CR on the Chubby vote.

[Chubby]

As of post 928:

britrock88 4 - Narcizo (740), Danny (762), Zinto (925), CrimsonFox (927)
Chief Rum 4 - bhlloy (854), Chubby (897), The Jackal (901), Julio Ridols (903)

Yet to vote: God, others...



i'm actually on CrimsonFox, nobody wants to count my vote :D

[Autumn]

It was like they met on the street and had a nice little firefight with no winners.

Oh, I think I won.

[Julio Riddols]

Oh, I think I won.

All us villagers won a little bit with that one. If either Chief or Brit is a wolf I think we might win again tonight.

Starting to wonder if Danny is the Seer after going back and re-reading things from about page 17. I understand being reasonably sure of something, but he seems entirely sure. I don't see how, given that Brit is new at this like me and I know all too well how easy it is to look like a wolf when you're just trying to hash things out or go with someone who has some traction in support of the rest of the assumed villagers..

And after all that talking through, names were rising and falling all over his posts regarding how much they were trusted, but britrock stuck at the top.

My question is whether we should kill a wolf that danny seems sure about if he is the seer, or if we should just go after the seer. I guess it honestly doesn't matter either way. I still think Chief is someone to watch though, so I am not ready to move yet until I can be further convinced. If Danny is the seer, I trust him - Otherwise all that misdirection and naming of names is hard to understand and seems like the possibility of a wolf trying to scapegoat an inexperienced player by pushing him so hard on the rest of us.

[Julio Riddols]

Then again maybe I am just reading too much into things.

[Julio Riddols]

Gotta feed my son and get him to bed, should be back in about a half hour.

[bhlloy]

I had the Danny as a seer thought as well Julio after his mini rant from earlier in the day and the way he's played. If you put a gun to my head I'd say I'm pretty confident it's either CF or Danny. Or someone else.

[Zinto]

So we are missing three votes currently and we are really close to the deadline so that is no good.

[Zinto]

Danny posting lists of people he trusts and distrusts are not uncommon when he plays. Even if he was the seer he would only have two scans so he would only surely know about two of the people he has mentioned.

[Danny]

I am not the seer. If I was the seer and found a wolf, I would have revealed a long time ago. Not to mention the whole being converted thing.

[bhlloy]

Nothing to do with that Zinto. No seer would ever be that obvious.

I'm talking more about the fact he's more UTR than I've seen in a very long time, plus he had the speech this afternoon about if he was the seer he'd come out and tell us all and he'll spank the seer after the game if he doesn't come forward etc...

Both CF and Danny are playing un-CF and Danny like games, which makes me nervous about both of them. But I'm very rarely right these days.

[bhlloy]

Add Jackal to that list as well come to think of it. We have three guys who are very vocal usually that have been pretty quiet this game, all things considered

[CrimsonFox]

taint me

[Danny]

Nothing to do with that Zinto. No seer would ever be that obvious.

I'm talking more about the fact he's more UTR than I've seen in a very long time, plus he had the speech this afternoon about if he was the seer he'd come out and tell us all and he'll spank the seer after the game if he doesn't come forward etc...

Both CF and Danny are playing un-CF and Danny like games, which makes me nervous about both of them. But I'm very rarely right these days.

I was UTR day 1 and 2 because I was busy. I certainly haven't been utr today. I think those that have played with me a lot know that I would make the villager play here as the seer and not try and hedge my bets.

[Danny]

Add Jackal to that list as well come to think of it. We have three guys who are very vocal usually that have been pretty quiet this game, all things considered

But look at the voting. We've found a wolf now, we are able to go on more then gut at this point

[CrimsonFox]

neither chief nor pass have voted. wtf

[Danny]

nor has brit, find it really off neither have voted.

[CrimsonFox]

they've given up?

[Julio Riddols]

Weird, wild stuff.

[EagleFan]

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[CrimsonFox]

then again mustard is good too...

[Julio Riddols]

Maybe Chief just didn't feel the need to vote because he knows either way a wolf is going down?

[EagleFan]

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[Danny]

Unless the seer somehow knows bh is lying then it is disappointing he never revealed.

[britrock88]

Well, now that I'm out from behind the steering wheel...

Vote Chief Rum

[Danny]

We're letting a wolf slip through our fingers here

[EagleFan]

As of post 955:

britrock88 4 - Narcizo (740), Danny (762), Zinto (925), CrimsonFox (927)
Chief Rum 4 - bhlloy (854), The Jackal (901), Julio Ridols (903), britrock88 (955)
CrimsonFox 1 - Chubby (897)

Yet to vote: God, others...

[Julio Riddols]

I don't think its possible bh is lying based on how he described things he has done throughout the game after he revealed. I'd feel pretty roughly hornswaggled if he pulled it off and it was a ruse all along.

[britrock88]

I like playing. Can I convince any of you that I ought to be able to stick around and contribute based on the fact that I'm here at the moment?

[Zinto]

I do not understand where Chief went, and I hope Chubby moves his vote, since it is worthless where it is.

[CrimsonFox]

come on julio, join the entourage. You'll get a cool blazer.

[Julio Riddols]

Wonder who God is going to vote for.

[Danny]

I don't think its possible bh is lying based on how he described things he has done throughout the game after he revealed. I'd feel pretty roughly hornswaggled if he pulled it off and it was a ruse all along.

I dont think so either which is why the seers actions are disappointing.

[Danny]

Wonder who God is going to vote for.

If you click the edit button you will find out

[Zinto]

Yep the seer has left us out to dry unless they are going to reveal after the deadline.

[CrimsonFox]

Julio, why chief instead of brit?

[Julio Riddols]

I think we're good either way, but I honestly feel more safe with my vote on Chief.. I just don't feel as strongly about britrock being a wolf or the seer or even Ronnie as I do Chief. I look over the same evidence as you guys and just don't know how you're so damn sure. Why are those votes so suspicious?

[CrimsonFox]

that's your cue danny

[britrock88]

I see 3 of the 4 votes on me are here. Can I answer for anything?

[Julio Riddols]

And Chief hasn't voted.. You'd think there would have been at least an absentee ballot.

[Julio Riddols]

And Chubby is just chilling on CrimsonFox too, which seems odd to me as well.

[Julio Riddols]

Maybe another late night at work for him or something similar.

[Zinto]

If you want to answer something Brit why Chubby over GE yesterday?

[Danny]

On day two, he laid down two separate votes which looked to clearly try and establish other candidates instead of Goldeneagle

[Zinto]

Julio, Brit's vote on Chubby to put him up on GE is really bad. At that point a wolf can probably move momentum away from GE all together(or hope to) because bhlloy was calling for Chubby's head.

[Danny]

Britrock also voted Julio over GoldenEagle earlier in the day. He also made his votes and switches at very vital times where it was looking like GoldenEagle needed someone to help him out and put other candidates ahead of him

[britrock88]

I saw bhlloy and GE as taking similar approaches to the game, so I changed my early vote to follow bhlloy's lead, which I thought was worth something.

[Danny]

Julio, Brit's vote on Chubby to put him up on GE is really bad. At that point a wolf can probably move momentum away from GE all together(or hope to) because bhlloy was calling for Chubby's head.

And he did that twice in the day!

[bhlloy]

I'm not letting this stay tied. Are we tied?

[CrimsonFox]

yes we are tied

[bhlloy]

switching

[britrock88]

I had gathered the impression that when we're pretty close to having a wolf dead, as the consensus seemed yesterday, the pile-on votes are the ones looked at suspiciously. That's why I moved around him.

[bhlloy]

unvote CR
vote britrock

hopefully this is my final contribution to the village. if CR and Pass don't get on, one of them has to be lynched tomorrow

[Danny]

Darth Vilus 5 - Jackal (80), Chubby (131) britrock (221) bhlloy (224) Passacaglia (253),
Danny 3 - Chief Rum (103), Julio Ridols (178) GoldenEagle (229)
Narcizo 4 - LSG (132) Zinto (187) CrimsonFox(227) Autumn (268),
Julio Ridols 2 - Danny (157) JAG (255)
Bhlloy 2 - Narcizo (109),
The Jackal 1 - Darth Vilus (108)

Also look at day 1, there is almost certainly a wolf on DV, but would Chief and GE both vote me as two wolves on day 1? probably not

[Julio Riddols]

UNVOTE CHIEF

VOTE BRITROCK

[Julio Riddols]

Well shite. I didn't know you were revoting, bhlloy.

[Danny]

We are now 5 for brit and 4 for CR

[Julio Riddols]

The argument above convinced me though. I see what you mean about the timing.

[Danny]

Its ok, I feel confident you guys made the right choice

[EagleFan]

As of post 984:

britrock88 5 - Narcizo (740), Danny (762), Zinto (925), CrimsonFox (927), bhlloy (983)
Chief Rum 3 - The Jackal (901), Julio Ridols (903), britrock88 (955)
CrimsonFox 1 - Chubby (897)

Yet to vote: God, others...

[CrimsonFox]

Dear Village,
Please forgive my delay in getting you this information as I wanted to make sure I waited until precisely 7:01 to deliver it so that I am ensured not to be the wolves’ nightkill order and can get another scan in. Also forgive my denial earlier as I did not want to admit it while the wolves still had a chance to kill me as a choice instead of bhlloy. (Thanks for repeatedly trying to out me, bud ;) )
My scans were as follows:

Night 1: Narcizo – Result: NOT a runner
Night 2: Julio – Result: NOT a runner

Now, I have tied myself to this chair as I have no doubt they are coming for me next to turn me into one of them. Please come and lynch me in two days time as I will no doubt unfortunately be trying to kill you by then.

PS. Bhlloy is who he says he is. I received his message which to me read “….ray ray….ray”. Not very helpful indeed but I was waiting for him to confirm that he sent me something before revealing this, which he finally has.
If anyone else now comes out claiming to be the seer or Ray, go after them with all guns blazing.
Farewell, my friends. I wait for you to kill me.
God Bless,
CF, your seer

[EagleFan]

deadline

[Danny]

Seer if you are going to help out the village, now is the time

[Danny]

Awesome job CF

[bhlloy]

I'm glad I read you right in this game CF. And thanks for making the good call

That's hilarious about that all the message saying (he's telling the truth btw)... I tried sending bhlloy and ray a bunch of times in different orders figuring if certain words got through, hopefully I could get my name and my role in. I guess only 50% of the total words made it through or some other mechanism

[Danny]

I expect we lynched a wolf and now with CF's reveal, we are looking to be in good shape

[CrimsonFox]

you should have sent something like "bananas are yummy"
and then repeated that phrase in thread. Then I would have known for sure.

[EagleFan]

After back and forth debate you decide. britrock88 must be a runner. The search begins. We have him. You cuff him and gather the group. As you open the door of the holding cell you see the cuffs sitting on the chair and no sign of britrock88.

You panic and search everywhere but cannot find him. Then you realize that you have seen him before. He is Max Morris, the circus freak who is well know for his ablity as an escape artist.

He may have escaped you this time but now you know what to expect from him. He won't escape again.

[Danny]

BINGO!

[bhlloy]

And great job waiting until after deadline also. Hope you have good mojo on your next scan. I know who I would choose and I'm sure we're thinking along the same lines