Over/Unders - Comments?

[Fritz]

as of Aug 12 from Millennium Sportsbook:

NFC East — Philadelphia (10), New York Giants (8.5), Washington (8), Dallas (7)

NFC North — Green Bay (9.5), Minnesota (8), Chicago (7.5), Detroit (6)

NFC South — Tampa Bay (10.5), Atlanta (9.5), New Orleans (8), Carolina (7.5)

NFC West — St. Louis (9.5), San Francisco (9), Seattle (8), Arizona (5)

AFC East — Miami (10), New England (9), New York Jets (9), Buffalo (8.5)

AFC North — Pittsburgh (9.5), Baltimore (8), Cleveland (8), Cincinnati (5.5)

AFC South — Tennessee (9.5), Indianapolis (8.5), Jacksonville (7), Houston (5)

AFC West — Denver (9.5), Oakland (9.5), Kansas City (9), San Diego (8)

[cuervo72]

NYG, Carolina, Tennessee.

[Franklinnoble]

I think Atlanta's number is bound to drop.

[Fritz]

Originally posted by cuervo72
NYG, Carolina, Tennessee.

all unders?

[Celeval]

San Diego - OVER
Cincinnati - UNDER
Detroit - UNDER

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by Fritz
all unders?

Whoops, sorry. I'd take the overs on those.

[Subby]

bet the house and the farm on Chicago and the under...

[TroyF]

Some interesting things there:

NYG (OVER)
Cincy (OVER)
Seattle (OVER)
San Fran (UNDER)

The two I'd lay money on?

Green Bay (UNDER)
Minnesota (OVER)

TroyF

[Maple Leafs]

Give me Arizona (under) and Carolina (over).

[SteelerFan448]

NYG-Over
Green Bay-Over
Atlanta-Under
New England-Under
Pittsburgh-Over
Cincinnati-Under
Indy-Over
Oakland-Over

[JonInMiddleGA]

Dallas - under
Atlanta - under
Jets - under
San Diego - under

[Fritz]

NFC East
Philadelphia (10) Over
New York Giants (8.5) Over
Washington (8) Under
Dallas (7) Under

NFC North
Green Bay (9.5) Over
Minnesota (8) Under
Chicago (7.5) Under
Detroit (6) Over

NFC South
Tampa Bay (10.5) Over
Atlanta (9.5) Under
New Orleans (8) Over
Carolina (7.5) Over

NFC West —
St. Louis (9.5) Under
San Francisco (9) Under
Seattle (8) Over
Arizona (5) Push

AFC East
Miami (10) Push
New England (9) Over
New York Jets (9) Push
Buffalo (8.5) Over

AFC North —
Pittsburgh (9.5) Over
Baltimore (8) Under
Cleveland (8) Under
Cincinnati (5.5) Over

AFC South
Tennessee (9.5) Over
Indianapolis (8.5) Over
Jacksonville (7) Under
Houston (5) Push

AFC West
Denver (9.5) Under
Oakland (9.5) Under
Kansas City (9) Over
San Diego (8) Under

[MIJB#19]

the total adds up to 8.25 wins per team, that's interesting...

[EagleFan]

NFC East
Philadelphia (10) - Over
New York Giants (8.5) - Under
Washington (8) - Over
Dallas (7) - Under (Bet the house)

NFC North
Green Bay (9.5) - Over
Minnesota (8) - Under
Chicago (7.5) - Under
Detroit (6) - Under

NFC South
Tampa Bay (10.5) - Over
Atlanta (9.5) - Under
New Orleans (8) - Over
Carolina (7.5) - Under

NFC West
St. Louis (9.5) - Over
San Francisco (9) - Under
Seattle (8) - Over
Arizona (5) - Over

AFC East
Miami (10) - Over
New England (9) - Under
New York Jets (9) - Under
Buffalo (8.5) - Under

AFC North
Pittsburgh (9.5) - Over
Baltimore (8) - Under
Cleveland (8) - Under
Cincinnati (5.5) - Under

AFC South
Tennessee (9.5) - Over
Indianapolis (8.5) - Over
Jacksonville (7) - Under
Houston (5) - Over

AFC West
Denver (9.5) - Under
Oakland (9.5) - Over
Kansas City (9) - Under
San Diego (8) - Over

[TroyF]

You guys really think Green Bay is going to win 10 games with that defense? I think it's going to be one of the worst defenses in the entire league. I love Farve, but I'll be shocked if they win 10 games.

TroyF

[Sharpieman]

NFC East
Philadelphia (10) Over
New York Giants (8.5) Over
Washington (8) Push
Dallas (7) Under

NFC North
Green Bay (9.5) Over
Minnesota (8) Push
Chicago (7.5) Under
Detroit (6) Over

NFC South
Tampa Bay (10.5) Over
Atlanta (9.5) Under
New Orleans (8) Over
Carolina (7.5) Over

NFC West —
St. Louis (9.5) Over
San Francisco (9) Push
Seattle (8) Over
Arizona (5) Under

AFC East
Miami (10) Over
New England (9) Push
New York Jets (9) Push
Buffalo (8.5) Over

AFC North —
Pittsburgh (9.5) Over
Baltimore (8) Push
Cleveland (8) Over
Cincinnati (5.5) Over

AFC South
Tennessee (9.5) Over
Indianapolis (8.5) Over
Jacksonville (7) Under
Houston (5) Under

AFC West
Denver (9.5) Over
Oakland (9.5) Over
Kansas City (9) Under
San Diego (8) Over

[EagleFan]

Originally posted by MIJB#19
the total adds up to 8.25 wins per team, that's interesting...

So, in theory, put money on the under for everyone and you're good to go. :)

[tucker342]

NFC East —
Philadelphia (10) over
New York Giants (8.5) over
Washington (8) push
Dallas (7) under

NFC North —
Green Bay (9.5) over
Minnesota (8) under
Chicago (7.5) under
Detroit (6) over

NFC South —
Tampa Bay (10.5) over
Atlanta (9.5) under
New Orleans (8) over
Carolina (7.5) under

NFC West —
St. Louis (9.5) over
San Francisco (9) under:(
Seattle (8) over
Arizona (5) push

AFC East —
Miami (10) push
New England (9) over
New York Jets (9) under
Buffalo (8.5) over

AFC North —
Pittsburgh (9.5) over
Baltimore (8) under
Cleveland (8) under
Cincinnati (5.5) under:D

AFC South —
Tennessee (9.5) under
Indianapolis (8.5) over
Jacksonville (7) under
Houston (5) push

AFC West —
Denver (9.5) under
Oakland (9.5) over
Kansas City (9) push
San Diego (8) push

[Blackadar]

NFC East
Philadelphia (10) Push
New York Giants (8.5) Over
Washington (8) Under
Dallas (7) Under

NFC North
Green Bay (9.5) Under
Minnesota (8) Over
Chicago (7.5) Under
Detroit (6) Push

NFC South
Tampa Bay (10.5) Over
Atlanta (9.5) Under
New Orleans (8) Over
Carolina (7.5) Under

NFC West —
St. Louis (9.5) Over
San Francisco (9) Over
Seattle (8) Under
Arizona (5) Under

AFC East
Miami (10) Over
New England (9) Over
New York Jets (9) Under
Buffalo (8.5) Under

AFC North —
Pittsburgh (9.5) Over
Baltimore (8) Over
Cleveland (8) Under
Cincinnati (5.5) Under

AFC South
Tennessee (9.5) Over
Indianapolis (8.5) Over
Jacksonville (7) Under
Houston (5) Under

AFC West
Denver (9.5) Over
Oakland (9.5) Under
Kansas City (9) Under
San Diego (8) Over

[Honolulu Blue]

Originally posted by EagleFan
So, in theory, put money on the under for everyone and you're good to go. :)

Don't go withdrawing your life savings just yet. You have to lay $11 to win $10, which provides the sports books with their edge.

[TLK]

I don't make many promises.... but everyone put their houses on Arizona and the under.....

[Arles]

TroyF, GB was 2nd to last in the NFL at ypc allowed (4.8) in 2002 and still won 12 games. And that's with a significant number of injuries. They have a solid secondary with McKenzie, Harris, Sharper and Edwards. GB also has a nice young LB group (Diggs and Barnet both look good in camp) and one of the top pass rushers in the league. They will be a below average defense based on yards allowed, force a bunch of TOs and be good enough to win most games.

Plus, how good do you have to be when facing Detroit, Chicago and Minnesota for 6 of your 16 games?

Arlie

[TroyF]

Arles,

Maybe you're right, but I don't see those turnovers. I don't think they are head and shoulders above everyone in that division anymore. I can easily see a 3-3 mark against their division foes this year.

TroyF

[Samdari]

St Louis - under
SF - under
I guess those two make it smart to play Seattle or Arizona over. I'll take Seattle.
Washington - way under (can you bet way under?)
now that Holcomb is starting, Cleveland over.

I would bet Atlanta under, but I would bet that number is down enough to make the average 8.

[larrymcg421]

NFC East
Philadelphia (10) Over
New York Giants (8.5) Over
Washington (8) Over
Dallas (7) Under

NFC North
Green Bay (9.5) Over
Minnesota (8) Over
Chicago (7.5) Under
Detroit (6) Over

NFC South
Tampa Bay (10.5) Under
Atlanta (9.5) Under
New Orleans (8) Over
Carolina (7.5) Over

NFC West —
St. Louis (9.5) Under
San Francisco (9) Under
Seattle (8) Over
Arizona (5) Under

AFC East
Miami (10) Over
New England (9) Over
New York Jets (9) Over
Buffalo (8.5) Over

AFC North —
Pittsburgh (9.5) Over
Baltimore (8) Under
Cleveland (8) Over
Cincinnati (5.5) Over

AFC South
Tennessee (9.5) Under
Indianapolis (8.5) Over
Jacksonville (7) Under
Houston (5) Over

AFC West
Denver (9.5) Under
Oakland (9.5) Under
Kansas City (9) Over
San Diego (8) Under

How about an over/under on what week of the season Griese will take Fiedler's starting job?

[Arles]

Originally posted by TroyF
[B]Arles,

Maybe you're right, but I don't see those turnovers.

Really? GB led the league in takeaways in 2002 with 45 and tied Tampa for the league lead in margin at +17. I would say that's a pretty good defense at forcing turnovers, wouldn't you? ;)

Arlie

[sooner333]

Just bet Dallas under. Bill Parcells may prove me wrong, but only if he starts himself at quarterback. This team is awful and Bill Parcell's "street cred" (way to use a basketball term for a white football coach...props to me) is getting them the higher over. They're just not that good at football.

[MIJB#19]

NFC East
Philadelphia (10) over
New York Giants (8.5) under
Washington (8) over*
Dallas (7) under

NFC North
Green Bay (9.5) under
Minnesota (8) over
Chicago (7.5) under
Detroit (6) over*

NFC South
Tampa Bay (10.5) over
Atlanta (9.5) under*
New Orleans (8) under
Carolina (7.5) over

NFC West
St. Louis (9.5) over
San Francisco (9) under*
Seattle (8) over*
Arizona (5) under*

AFC East
Miami (10) under
New England (9) over
New York Jets (9) under
Buffalo (8.5) over

AFC North
Pittsburgh (9.5) over
Baltimore (8) over*
Cleveland (8) over
Cincinnati (5.5) under

AFC South
Tennessee (9.5) over*
Indianapolis (8.5) under
Jacksonville (7) under
Houston (5) under

AFC West
Denver (9.5) over
Oakland (9.5) under
Kansas City (9) under
San Diego (8) over

* = by very tight margins of 1 or 0.5 wins..
(Like I posted before) these wins numbers add up to 265 wins in 256 games, so going under for all teams, could mean winning a lot, however if the Bucs win 0 games amd all other equal thier numbers, you'd only win with your Bucs pick.