Heh. What happens when Ol' SkyDog calls his own plays...

[Ben E Lou]

Fooling around with the demo. Even I didn't realize that my tendency is THAT run/short-pass heavy. Wow.Box Score: Green Bay at Atlanta
Atlanta, GA.

Exhibition Week 2, 2003

Attendance: 62,800 (71,100).


Weather: 68 degrees, fair.

1Q: 06:18 GBY - Alex Crase 2 pass from Elmer Gantry.
1Q: 06:18 GBY - William Muchnick extra point.
1Q: 01:41 ATL - Marcus O'Connor 15 pass from Orlando Ozguner.
1Q: 01:41 ATL - Todd Hobson extra point.
4Q: 00:00 ATL - Todd Hobson 29 field goal.

Game MVP: ATL 7 Orlando Ozguner

Green Bay 7 0 0 0 - 7
Atlanta 7 0 0 3 - 10

Team Statistics GBY ATL

First Downs 15 15

Total Rushes 22 37
Rushing Yards 80 180
Yards Per Carry 3.6 4.8
Pass Attempts 36 24
Completions 23 13
Passing Yards 223 69
Yards Per Attempt 6.1 2.8
Sacked 2 2
Yards Lost 18 12
Interceptions 1 0
Fumbles/Lost 1/1 2/1

Total Plays 58 61
Total Yards 303 249
Yards Per Play 5.2 4.0

3rd Down Plays 6/14 5/16
Avg. YTG on 3rd 8.2 9.1
4th Down Plays 0/0 0/1

Penalties 10 8
Penalty Yards 77 55

Avg. Drive Start OWN 24 OWN 32
Time Of Possession 29:28 30:32

Green Bay Individual Statistics

Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD
30 Bellevue 10 40 4.0 10 0
40 Vanhorn 6 17 2.8 4 0
25 Mularoni 6 23 3.8 7 0

Passing Att Comp Yards Yd/Att Long TD Int Sckd
4 Gantry 20 12 120 6.0 26 1 0 1
16 Rockett 16 11 103 6.4 34 0 1 1

Receiving Catch Yards Avg YAC Long TD
86 Bleess 5 62 12.4 35 26 0
84 Black 4 73 18.2 4 34 0
33 Crase 3 17 5.6 5 8 1
88 Geer 3 14 4.6 1 9 0
30 Bellevue 2 7 3.5 10 6 0
80 Osieja 2 16 8.0 6 9 0
85 Brunsvold 1 18 18.0 1 18 0
89 Lengel 1 12 12.0 2 12 0
40 Vanhorn 1 2 2.0 0 2 0
25 Mularoni 1 2 2.0 0 2 0

Punt Returns Att Yards Avg TD
86 Bleess 1 6 6.0 0
31 Meagher 1 2 2.0 0

Kick Returns Att Yards Avg TD
32 Cook 2 33 16.5 0

Punting Punts Yards Avg Long In20
9 Hansen 7 260 37.1 45 1

Kicking FG FGA Long PAT Att
8 Muchnick 0 1 0 1 1

Defense Tackle Assist Sack Int IntYds IntTD
42 Soutsos 6 2 0.0 0 0 0
97 Cella 6 1 0.0 0 0 0
56 Rotruck 5 3 0.0 0 0 0
91 Creel 4 3 1.0 0 0 0
21 Sayers 4 3 1.0 0 0 0
45 Riddols 4 0 0.0 0 0 0
52 Settles 4 0 0.0 0 0 0
99 Shaw 3 3 0.0 0 0 0
34 Wodarz 3 1 0.0 0 0 0
29 Stuff 2 2 0.0 0 0 0
20 Hulbert 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
51 Whitley 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
31 Meagher 1 1 0.0 0 0 0
50 Leisure 1 1 0.0 0 0 0
90 Tims 1 1 0.0 0 0 0
98 Gidley 1 1 0.0 0 0 0
85 Brunsvold 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
32 Cook 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
88 Geer 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
84 Black 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
59 DePaoli 0 2 0.0 0 0 0

Miscellaneous Fumb FForc Recov MiscTD KeyRBlk SckAlwd
62 Hamaoka 0 0 0 0 1 2
71 Galoob 0 0 0 0 2 0
33 Crase 0 0 0 0 1 0
22 Flake 0 0 0 0 1 0
42 Soutsos 0 1 0 0 0 0
30 Bellevue 1 0 0 0 0 0
34 Wodarz 0 1 0 0 0 0
21 Sayers 0 0 1 0 0 0

Atlanta Individual Statistics

Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD
45 Nall 21 98 4.6 16 0
7 Ozguner 7 49 7.0 14 0
28 Shea 5 23 4.6 12 0
33 Stermer 3 6 2.0 4 0
81 Gonzales 1 4 4.0 4 0

Passing Att Comp Yards Yd/Att Long TD Int Sckd
7 Ozguner 24 13 69 2.8 15 1 0 2

Receiving Catch Yards Avg YAC Long TD
81 Gonzales 5 34 6.8 12 11 0
86 O'Connor 3 31 10.3 1 15 1
33 Stermer 2 3 1.5 3 3 0
28 Shea 1 0 0.0 1 0 0
45 Nall 1 -1 -1.0 0 -1 0
87 Emery 1 2 2.0 0 2 0

Punt Returns Att Yards Avg TD
20 Lombard 1 10 10.0 0

Kick Returns Att Yards Avg TD
34 Brady 1 20 20.0 0

Punting Punts Yards Avg Long In20
13 Bloomgarden 9 427 47.4 60 4

Kicking FG FGA Long PAT Att
4 Hobson 1 1 29 1 1

Defense Tackle Assist Sack Int IntYds IntTD
61 Barrett 10 1 1.0 0 0 0
32 Gunn 6 1 0.0 0 0 0
56 Stugg 4 3 0.0 0 0 0
23 Winnicki 4 2 0.0 0 0 0
90 Jarvie 4 2 0.0 0 0 0
34 Brady 3 1 0.0 0 0 0
54 Newton 3 0 0.0 1 0 0
97 Hall 3 1 0.0 0 0 0
47 Pfeifer 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
59 Rogero 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
91 Foster 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
29 Philips 1 0 1.0 0 0 0
20 Lombard 1 2 0.0 0 0 0
37 Moose 1 1 0.0 0 0 0
95 Babin 1 1 0.0 0 0 0
22 Sawle 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
81 Gonzales 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
71 Daianu 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
52 Huston 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
98 Stephan 0 1 0.0 0 0 0
99 Englund 0 1 0.0 0 0 0

Miscellaneous Fumb FForc Recov MiscTD KeyRBlk SckAlwd
33 Stermer 0 0 0 0 1 1
74 Dolliver 0 0 0 0 2 1
70 Wendorff 0 0 0 0 2 0
71 Daianu 0 0 0 0 2 0
45 Nall 1 0 1 0 0 0
75 Reilly 0 0 0 0 2 0
28 Shea 1 0 0 0 0 0
32 Gunn 0 1 0 0 0 0
62 Arnett 0 0 0 0 1 0
65 Johann 0 0 0 0 1 0
51 Young 0 0 1 0 0 0

Green Bay Drive Chart
Quar Began Poss From Plays Yards Result
1 15:00 2:40 OWN 29 3 3 Punt
1 8:51 2:33 OPP 46 7 46 Touchdown
1 1:41 4:35 OWN 22 11 50 Missed FG
2 10:26 1:29 OWN 26 3 -17 Punt
2 5:59 4:06 OWN 20 9 63 Fumble
3 12:16 2:45 OWN 7 6 53 Punt
3 5:55 3:26 OWN 4 6 16 Punt
3 1:02 3:31 OWN 18 6 10 Punt
4 11:11 2:14 OWN 40 3 8 Punt
4 6:04 2:05 OWN 20 4 21 Punt
4 2:22 0:21 OWN 28 2 0 Interception

Atlanta Drive Chart
Quar Began Poss From Plays Yards Result
1 12:20 3:29 OWN 37 8 29 Fumble
1 6:18 4:37 OWN 20 10 80 Touchdown
2 12:06 1:40 OWN 35 3 -3 Punt
2 8:57 2:58 OWN 43 7 15 Punt
2 1:53 1:53 OWN 17 7 29 Punt
3 15:00 2:44 OWN 24 5 19 Punt
3 9:31 3:36 OWN 20 6 16 Punt
3 2:29 1:27 OWN 41 3 3 Punt
4 12:31 1:20 OWN 27 3 -11 Punt
4 8:57 2:53 OWN 24 5 29 Punt
4 3:59 1:37 OWN 32 4 -11 Punt
4 2:01 2:01 OPP 34 5 22 Field Goal

Green Bay Red Zone Profile
Visits TDs FGs
1 1 0

Atlanta Red Zone Profile
Visits TDs FGs
2 1 1

Green Bay Rushing Breakdown

Direction Rush Yards Ave
Left 5 24 4.8
Middle 13 39 3.0
Right 4 17 4.2
None 0 0 0.0

Run Blocking KeyBlks BlkOpps RunPlays
71 Galoob 2 3 5
62 Hamaoka 1 6 20
33 Crase 1 2 14
22 Flake 1 1 6
65 Larsen 0 3 15
79 Desmond 0 3 12
60 Winters 0 2 17
76 Watson 0 1 17
68 Carlson 0 1 10
88 Geer 0 0 17
67 Handley 0 0 14
85 Brunsvold 0 0 4
87 Reier 0 0 4

Green Bay Passing Breakdown

Distance Pass Comp Yards Ave
Screen 8 6 21 2.6
Short (0-8 Yds) 17 12 104 6.1
Medium (9-18 Yds) 6 4 64 10.6
Long (19+ Yds) 5 1 34 6.8

Passing Attempt Comp BdThrw Dropd Defnsd Blockd Hurried Intrcpt
4 Gantry 20 12 1 0 3 0 3 0
16 Rockett 16 11 1 1 1 1 0 1

Receiving Target Caught Dropd Yards PassPlay
84 Black 7 4 0 73 29
86 Bleess 5 5 0 62 19
33 Crase 5 3 0 17 16
88 Geer 5 3 0 14 20
80 Osieja 4 2 0 16 35
89 Lengel 3 1 0 12 7
85 Brunsvold 2 1 1 18 11
30 Bellevue 2 2 0 7 13
40 Vanhorn 2 1 0 2 15
25 Mularoni 1 1 0 2 8

Pass Block SckAlwd PassPlay
60 Winters 0 33
62 Hamaoka 2 31
65 Larsen 0 31
76 Watson 0 29
79 Desmond 0 20
67 Handley 0 18
33 Crase 0 16
68 Carlson 0 12
71 Galoob 0 6
22 Flake 0 5

Pass Rush Sacks PsBlks Hurries PassPlay
91 Creel 1.0 0 0 24
21 Sayers 1.0 0 0 17
99 Shaw 0.0 1 2 20
34 Wodarz 0.0 0 1 17
56 Rotruck 0.0 0 0 20
42 Soutsos 0.0 0 0 19
97 Cella 0.0 0 0 19
98 Gidley 0.0 0 0 19
29 Stuff 0.0 0 0 17
31 Meagher 0.0 0 0 16
59 DePaoli 0.0 0 0 12
20 Hulbert 0.0 0 0 12
50 Leisure 0.0 0 0 9
52 Settles 0.0 0 0 9
90 Tims 0.0 0 0 8
51 Whitley 0.0 0 0 8
45 Riddols 0.0 0 0 7
32 Cook 0.0 0 0 5
64 Moynihan 0.0 0 0 5
75 Wissick 0.0 0 0 1

Pass Defense Caught Defnsd Intrcpt PassPlay
56 Rotruck 3 3 0 20
99 Shaw 2 0 0 20
21 Sayers 2 0 0 17
29 Stuff 1 0 0 17
31 Meagher 1 0 0 16
20 Hulbert 1 0 0 12
52 Settles 1 0 0 9
45 Riddols 1 0 0 7
32 Cook 1 0 0 5
59 DePaoli 0 2 0 12
91 Creel 0 0 0 24
42 Soutsos 0 0 0 19
97 Cella 0 0 0 19
98 Gidley 0 0 0 19
34 Wodarz 0 0 0 17
50 Leisure 0 0 0 9
90 Tims 0 0 0 8
51 Whitley 0 0 0 8
64 Moynihan 0 0 0 5
75 Wissick 0 0 0 1

Defense Tackles Assists RunPlay PassPlay
42 Soutsos 6 2 28 19
97 Cella 6 1 27 19
56 Rotruck 5 3 29 20
91 Creel 4 3 28 24
21 Sayers 4 3 20 17
45 Riddols 4 0 13 7
52 Settles 4 0 10 9
99 Shaw 3 3 31 20
34 Wodarz 3 1 23 17
29 Stuff 2 2 18 17
20 Hulbert 2 1 15 12
51 Whitley 2 0 11 8
98 Gidley 1 1 30 19
31 Meagher 1 1 20 16
50 Leisure 1 1 19 9
90 Tims 1 1 8 8
32 Cook 1 0 14 5
59 DePaoli 0 2 18 12
64 Moynihan 0 0 8 5
75 Wissick 0 0 8 1
55 Mersky 0 0 7 0

Atlanta Rushing Breakdown

Direction Rush Yards Ave
Left 7 33 4.7
Middle 28 143 5.1
Right 2 4 2.0
None 0 0 0.0

Run Blocking KeyBlks BlkOpps RunPlays
70 Wendorff 2 10 32
74 Dolliver 2 5 31
71 Daianu 2 5 24
75 Reilly 2 2 8
65 Johann 1 5 13
62 Arnett 1 3 27
33 Stermer 1 1 26
53 Van Hoose 0 3 17
83 Sjogren 0 0 35
63 Fung 0 1 23
85 Chesher 0 0 13
48 Siegel 0 0 2

Atlanta Passing Breakdown

Distance Pass Comp Yards Ave
Screen 4 3 -1 -0.2
Short (0-8 Yds) 12 6 22 1.8
Medium (9-18 Yds) 5 4 48 9.6
Long (19+ Yds) 3 0 0 0.0

Passing Attempt Comp BdThrw Dropd Defnsd Blockd Hurried Intrcpt
7 Ozguner 24 13 2 0 5 1 3 0

Receiving Target Caught Dropd Yards PassPlay
81 Gonzales 10 5 0 34 24
86 O'Connor 3 3 0 31 24
87 Emery 3 1 0 2 14
28 Shea 2 1 0 0 4
83 Sjogren 2 0 0 0 21
45 Nall 2 1 0 -1 15
33 Stermer 2 2 0 3 15

Pass Block SckAlwd PassPlay
70 Wendorff 0 23
74 Dolliver 1 23
62 Arnett 0 19
63 Fung 0 16
33 Stermer 1 15
71 Daianu 0 14
53 Van Hoose 0 12
65 Johann 0 11
44 Hoover 0 3
75 Reilly 0 2

Pass Rush Sacks PsBlks Hurries PassPlay
61 Barrett 1.0 0 0 31
29 Philips 1.0 0 0 28
59 Rogero 0.0 1 0 14
91 Foster 0.0 0 2 26
97 Hall 0.0 0 0 32
95 Babin 0.0 0 0 30
56 Stugg 0.0 0 1 20
20 Lombard 0.0 0 0 28
34 Brady 0.0 0 0 25
32 Gunn 0.0 0 0 23
23 Winnicki 0.0 0 0 20
37 Moose 0.0 0 0 19
54 Newton 0.0 0 0 19
52 Huston 0.0 0 0 15
47 Pfeifer 0.0 0 0 14
90 Jarvie 0.0 0 0 14
98 Stephan 0.0 0 0 13
99 Englund 0.0 0 0 7
78 Perles 0.0 0 0 7
22 Sawle 0.0 0 0 6
51 Young 0.0 0 0 5

Pass Defense Caught Defnsd Intrcpt PassPlay
32 Gunn 4 0 0 23
34 Brady 3 0 0 25
97 Hall 2 0 0 32
23 Winnicki 2 0 0 20
56 Stugg 2 0 0 20
90 Jarvie 2 0 0 14
22 Sawle 2 0 0 6
20 Lombard 1 1 0 28
61 Barrett 1 0 0 31
54 Newton 1 0 1 19
91 Foster 1 0 0 26
37 Moose 1 0 0 19
52 Huston 1 0 0 15
29 Philips 0 2 0 28
59 Rogero 0 1 0 14
95 Babin 0 0 0 30
47 Pfeifer 0 0 0 14
98 Stephan 0 0 0 13
99 Englund 0 0 0 7
78 Perles 0 0 0 7
51 Young 0 0 0 5

Defense Tackles Assists RunPlay PassPlay
61 Barrett 10 1 19 31
32 Gunn 6 1 14 23
56 Stugg 4 3 14 20
23 Winnicki 4 2 11 20
90 Jarvie 4 2 9 14
97 Hall 3 1 22 32
34 Brady 3 1 12 25
54 Newton 3 0 10 19
47 Pfeifer 2 1 12 14
91 Foster 2 0 18 26
59 Rogero 2 0 12 14
20 Lombard 1 2 15 28
95 Babin 1 1 20 30
37 Moose 1 1 11 19
29 Philips 1 0 17 28
52 Huston 1 0 8 15
22 Sawle 1 0 3 6
98 Stephan 0 1 6 13
99 Englund 0 1 3 7
78 Perles 0 0 3 7
51 Young 0 0 3 5

[Pacersfan46]

Aren't you the one who referred to people as "sissyfied"?

Well ... THROW THE BALL DEEP YOU SISSY!

:D

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by Pacersfan46
Aren't you the one who referred to people as "sissyfied"?

Well ... THROW THE BALL DEEP YOU SISSY!

:D Passing is for sissies!!! Real men play smash-mouth!!! ;)

Seriously though, looking at the game log, I realized that I ran every single time it was the first play of a possession. The great majority of my passes came only when necessary (2nd and >10, 3rd and >3). Since I was running so much, I was in a lot of 3rd and 3-to-8-yard situations, so lots of screens, slants, curls and quick outs got called.

[KWhit]

Originally posted by SkyDog
Passing is for sissies!!! Real men play smash-mouth!!! ;)

Seriously though, looking at the game log, I realized that I ran every single time it was the first play of a possession. The great majority of my passes came only when necessary (2nd and >10, 3rd and >3). Since I was running so much, I was in a lot of 3rd and 3-to-8-yard situations, so lots of screens, slants, curls and quick outs got called.

Writing this down in my IHOF scouting notebook...

Mwahhahaha!

[Bonegavel]

SD, I see why your run more... that QB doesn't look too spiffy.

Speaking of which, an exhibition game and only 1 QB played? That hurts.

[Buccaneer]

SD, you obviously set a customized gameplan. So what would had happened if you let the AI played the game instead of you calling the plays? Would the results have been similar or something different?

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by Bonegavel
SD, I see why your run more... that QB doesn't look too spiffy.

Speaking of which, an exhibition game and only 1 QB played? That hurts. I'm fairly sure that even in exhibition games you have to make substitutions yourself if you choose to do playcalling.

[cthomer5000]

Geez, could you run it up the middle any more? How about some variety at least, this isn't 1910.

edit: funny to see your only touchdown was scored on a pass. :p

[Bonegavel]

Originally posted by SkyDog
I'm fairly sure that even in exhibition games you have to make substitutions yourself if you choose to do playcalling.

Well, Quik indicated that there was a good distribution amongst his players in Exhibition, but I think that since Exhibition games are different than regular season games, there should be a special way to handle the depth charts for them.

It would be a good idea to have a separate depth chart for it where you could indicate a players percentage of time, or the quarters you would like them to play.

E.g.,

QB
McSkydog, Ben Qt1 (100%) Y Qt2 (50%) Y Qt3 N Qt4 N
McGavel, Bone Qt1 N Qt2 (50%) Y Qt3 (100%) Y Qt4 N
Play, Ken I Qt1 N Qt2 N Qt3 N Qt4 Y (100%)



Oh! Your comment is when you play call yourself. I gotcha. Missed that. But, I still think the above would be a good thing to have for the game for exhibition games.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by cthomer5000
Geez, could you run it up the middle any more? How about some variety at least, this isn't 1910. Real men run right at you! :D


Seriously though, I wasn't trying to "make a statement" or anything like that. I was just calling plays how i would call them in a given situation, given my personnel. My starting RB (meant to emulate T.J. Duckett) was rated 98 in "power inside." What would you do? Any good Georgia high school football fan can tell you that "when you got a hoss, you RIDE him!"

[JeeberD]

TJ Duckett is a hoss? Ha!

;)

[Franklin]

Originally posted by SkyDog
What would you do? Any good Georgia high school football fan can tell you that "when you got a hoss, you RIDE him!"

This is exactly why there are so many cases of equine anxiety and schizophrenia in the state of Georgia. Similar conditions have been observed amongst sheep in Kentucky and cattle in Texas.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by JeeberD
TJ Duckett is a hoss? Ha!

;) Yay for the X-Factor!!!! :D

On that gamestart, TJ looked like a stud. I haven't closed that game yet. Here are a few key ratings:

Power Inside: 98
Third Down Run: 65/73
Hole Recognition: 82/94
Elusiveness 42/51

Looks like a serious straight-ahead runner who isn't gonna go for positive yardage a lot.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by Franklin
This is exactly why there are so many cases of equine anxiety and schizophrenia in the state of Georgia. Similar conditions have been observed amongst sheep in Kentucky and cattle in Texas. Ewwwwwwww!!!!


More info: I let it quicksim the rest of the way. In game #2 of the regular season, TJ had 30 carries for 140 yards, with his longest run being 25 yards. My kinda back.

[mckerney]

Noted for when I play you in the leauge.

Have linebackers play corner...

[Buzzbee]

Note for when I play SD in the IHOF:

Run 6-4 defense. Have Offensive linemen play linebacker.

[Samdari]

Originally posted by SkyDog
Hole Recognition: 82/94

TJ Duckett?!?!?

That might be TOO much of an X-factor.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by Samdari
TJ Duckett?!?!?

That might be TOO much of an X-factor. ...which brings me to reason #1342 not to use real players.... ;)

[Subby]

I never considered it before, but the more I read these threads, the more I think it would be neat if there was some head-to-head playcalling features built in...

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by Subby
I never considered it before, but the more I read these threads, the more I think it would be neat if there was some head-to-head playcalling features built in... :eek:

Talk about a 32-team multiplayer league taking forever though...

[FrogMan]

Originally posted by SkyDog
...which brings me to reason #1342 not to use real players.... ;)

Absolutely!!! On your boxscore, I don't see T.J. Duckett, I see a #45, with last name Nall... Whatever his skills are, they are his and his only...

FM

[Coffee Warlord]

Holy shit, SkyDog is John Shoop!

[mckerney]

Originally posted by Coffee Warlord
Holy shit, SkyDog is John Shoop!

No.

SkyDog won. :)

[Bonegavel]

Originally posted by SkyDog
...which brings me to reason #1342 not to use real players.... ;)

Reason #3 to use real players is that the name should simply equate to a position. You see Joe Namath, you know he is a quarterback. You have to check out his stats to see how good he is and, obviously, not assume anything other than the fact that he is a QB. In one parallel universe, he might actually be good.

[Ben E Lou]

SD, you obviously set a customized gameplan. So what would had happened if you let the AI played the game instead of you calling the plays? Would the results have been similar or something different?Uh...read the thread title.

[WSUCougar]

^^^
What happens when SkyDog finds a "REPLY TO THE CURMUDGEON" sticky note from November. ;)

[Ben E Lou]

^^^
What happens when SkyDog finds a "REPLY TO THE CURMUDGEON" sticky note from November. ;):D

In case you're wondering, I was doing a search for something else, came across this thread, and realized I never answered his question.

[JAG]

That's a long time to wait for a response.

[Ben E Lou]

That's a long time to wait for a response.Buc is a patient man.

[hukarez]

Man...if only I can have RBs that average 4.8 yards per attempt. I think at most, I've had 4.0...but I usually have RBs averaging high 3s. :(

I can't quite figure it out. I've got some pretty good O-linemen, the lowest one rated in his high 60s, with the others panning out around the 70s - and one spectacular 84 rated Center! :D