ROLL CALL *IMPORTANT*

[cthomer5000]

This is the official roll call thread. There are two important questions to answer:


<font size=4>1. Do you still wish to be a member of the league?

2. Do you own FOF2004?</font><font size=3>
2b. If you do not own the game, when do you plan on purchasing it?</font>

Below are the current 31 members of the league (and I say 31, because it sadly appears we have lost Fritz). After figuring out who is in and who is out, we will make a decision on if/how to fill the vacant spots.


<font color=red>Those who have confirmed both participation and ownership of the game are listed in bold at the top of the list.</font>

3ric
albionmoonlight
Alf
Blackadar
Buzzbee
Celeval
Chief Rum
Chubby
cthomer5000
cuervo72
Daimyo
Darkiller
Dutch
FBPro
Hell Atlantic
HornedFrogPurple
Kodos
KWhit
mckerney
MIJB#19
primelord
QuikSand
SackAttack
Samdari
Senator
SkyDog
Solecismic
Subby
TroyF
Vegas Vic
Vince
WSUCougar

in: 32
out: 5 (Fritz, Buccaneer, GrantDawg, Bee, JasonTobiasIV)
<font size=4>DONE!</font>

[cthomer5000]

Yes, I am still in the league.
Yes, I own the game.

[Vince]

Yes, I am still in the league.
Yes, I own the game.

I deleted my thread. Fucking elitist. ;)

[Subby]

Yes I am still in the game.

Yes I will own this league...

[Celeval]

Yes, yes.

[Buzzbee]

Yes,Yes.

[primelord]

Yes and yes.

[Chief Rum]

Yup to both

CR

[KWhit]

Yes, yes, yes.


Did I just imagine that you asked a third question - "Do you have a trout in your rectum?"

[mckerney]

Yes and Yes.

[Samdari]

yes and yes

[Senator]

yes squared

[Darkiller]

YES and YES

[TroyF]

yes, yes

[Kodos]

Oui, oui.

[Anthony]

damn, Senator stole the answer i was gonna use.

yes to both.

[QuikSand]

Yes, yes.

[Blackadar]

Si, si

[SackAttack]

Yes, yes, and a thousand times, yes.

[Buccaneer]

1. Alas, no.

[FBPro]

Yes
Yes

[Vince]

For those of us visual types who can't wait for cthomer to update the first post -

Blackadar
Buzzbee
Celeval
Chief Rum
cthomer5000
Darkiller
FBPro
Hell Atlantic
Kodos
KWhit
mckerney
primelord
QuikSand
SackAttack
Samdari
Senator
Subby
TroyF
Vince
albionmoonlight
Alf
Bee
cuervo72
Daimyo
GrantDawg
HornedFrogPurple
JasonTobiasIV
MIJB#19
SkyDog
Solecismic

19 confirmed
11 yet to confirm
2 vacancies

[Alf]

Yes, I am still in the league.
Yes, I own the game.

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As there are now apparently 2 spots available, I suggest we contact 3ric for taking one of these free spots.

[MIJB#19]

1. Yes
2. Yes, with the kind help of Alf

[HornedFrog Purple]

I am here!

Yes I own the game!

[albionmoonlight]

Yes^2

[Daimyo]

yes,yes

[Alf]

cthomer, it would be good to update the first post too.

[Alf]

dola, Since JT4 has been MIA for a long time, we might have 3 vacancies in fact.

Since, there are only 5-6 people not replying here so far, I think it would be fair sending them PMs.

[cthomer5000]

dola, Since JT4 has been MIA for a long time, we might have 3 vacancies in fact.

Since, there are only 5-6 people not replying here so far, I think it would be fair sending them PMs.


I sent the last 8 or 9 PM's this morning. I'd say we should give anyone here until the end of the weekend to declare being in or out.

We can wait a bit longer on Solecismic obviously... and SkyDog has been busy with much more important stuff.

At the very least, we will probably need at least 3 new owners.. as I'm next to certain to won't hear from Tobias (who hasn't even logged in since november).

[GrantDawg]

1. no

[Buzzbee]

Fritz, Bucc, and now GrantDawg. :(

Of course I can't blame GrantDawg. He was just afraid he was gonna git whupped by some Yellowjackets. :p

[cuervo72]

1. yes
2. yes

[Subby]

I gotta think Bee is still in, although I dont think I have seen him around in some time.

[Vince]

I'd think that SkyDog is in as well, just dealing with the crap that is real life right now. I'd say the same for Jim, because I'm not sure what would have changed his mind once he said he was in, but I'm not as sure of that.

[KWhit]

1. no
Sniff...

[Bee]

Sorry guys I'm out. I can't visit the site anymore during the day and my free time at home has all but disappeared recently.

Good luck with the league.

B

[Vince]

Man, sorry to hear that all of you will be out...Bucc, Fritz, Grantdawg and Bee. Thanks for letting us know, though!

[Ben E Lou]

Hey guys. As you figured, I've been very busy the last few days. :( I've been checking the main board only, and then pretty sporadically compared to normal. I'm in, and own the game.

The funeral is Saturday morning, and then next weekend I've got a big trip, so I'll be a bit busy from now until the 25th. Please don't hesitate to PM me, though, if a vote of some sort or other important info comes out that I haven't replied to. I suspect that I will be around the board a lot on Saturday afternoon, Sunday, and Monday, but will be sporadic during the week next week, and totally offline Friday through Sunday next weekend.

FYI, from every conversation I've had with Jim, I'd surmise that he's still in too. The commish should just e-mail him to let him know that things are about to get up and running, and to confirm that he's in.

[cthomer5000]

<font size=8>See first post of this thread for most recent info.</font>

[cthomer5000]

Ok. Now we're exactly where I expected to be. I do not expect to hear from Tobias, who has pretty much disappered from these boards. He hasn't logged in since November 22nd... so it appears we will have 5 vacancies. I'll soon post the full details of the geographic constraints we'll need to place upon the new owners (to make them fit into the alignment we already have going).

Still, we're really moving now!

[Samdari]

Sorry guys I'm out. I can't visit the site anymore during the day and my free time at home has all but disappeared recently.

Good luck with the league.

B

Ack! I lost my rival. Must have gotten scared.

Subby, you're up.

[cthomer5000]

We're going to be forcing new owners to fit within our current geographical alignment. I don't it's that unreasonable a thing to ask, as it will save us a lot of re-shuffling.

Of the 5 vacancies, we need:
One Northeast team. The team could be located anywhere in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, New York, or any of the New England States. (If they choose Penn or NJ, the new team and I will switch to the Mid-Atlantic division, and Astoria and Brooklyn would move to the Northeast division)
Two Mid-Atlantic teams. The new teams can be located anywhere in West Virginia, Virginia, or North Carolina.
One team for the "Georgia" division. This team can be located in Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, or Florida. Option 2: Buzzbee has said he's willing to move into Georgia, so the new team can also be placed in Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma, or Mississippi.
One Western team. The team can be as far east as the eastern border of Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, or New Mexico.

[Buzzbee]

We're going to be forcing new owners to fit within our current geographical alignment. I don't it's that unreasonable a thing to ask, as it will save us a lot of re-shuffling.

Of the 5 vacancies, we need:
One Northeast team. The team could be located anywhere in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, New York, or any of the New England States. (If they choose Penn or NJ, the new team and I will switch to the Mid-Atlantic division, and Astoria and Brooklyn would move to the Northeast division)
Two Mid-Atlantic teams. The new teams can be located anywhere in West Virginia, Virginia, or North Carolina.
One team for the "Georgia" division. This team can be located in Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, or Florida.
One Western team. The team can be as far east as the eastern border of Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, or New Mexico.


If needed, I can shift my team from Vicksburg to Georgia. In other words, if a new owner wants a team "down South" and we don't find a "replacement" for Grant Dawg, I can become one of the Georgia contingent (since I AM in Georgia.

Team would be the Vinings Vipers. If needed, of course.

[cthomer5000]

If needed, I can shift my team from Vicksburg to Georgia. In other words, if a new owner wants a team "down South" and we don't find a "replacement" for Grant Dawg, I can become one of the Georgia contingent (since I AM in Georgia.

Team would be the Vinings Vipers. If needed, of course.

Unless you WANT to move to Georgia, you can stay where you are. I don't think it's unreasonable to force the new guys into specific areas.

So lemme know if you want to move or not.

[Buzzbee]

I'm happy where I am, but just wanted to let it be known that I could move if it meant a new owner wanted a team in the Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Arkansas, region. No reason to force them if there is an easy alternative.

[cthomer5000]

I'm happy where I am, but just wanted to let it be known that I could move if it meant a new owner wanted a team in the Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Arkansas, region. No reason to force them if there is an easy alternative.

Ok... i'll let em know. thanks for being so flexible. :)

[Daimyo]

I think its silly to force owners to locate in a specific area. What happens later when teams start moving anyway? I say just focus on getting the best possible owners and not worry about the cosmetic stuff. We want people to be as attached as possible to their franchises and for some people being able to choose their locale is very important.

[albionmoonlight]

Fairbanks could also be reclassified as "Western" if another team wanted to be a frequent flyer.

[Anthony]

how long till we find a replacement for Jim? does he even know about this forum?

i'm sorry, i know he's busy (like we're all not), but if this is the level of participation we should come to expect from him i say dev or no dev - kindly move over for someone else to play.

i have a job and wife, and i still reserve even a couple minutes to check in here everyday despite all my other distractions. not much to expect from him or anyone else.

i just don't want us to be handcuffed to any particular owner if that owner proves himself not able to put in even a minimum amount of face-time. hopefully he's just reserving his "grand entrance" till the league is officially ready.

[cuervo72]

I think its silly to force owners to locate in a specific area. What happens later when teams start moving anyway? I say just focus on getting the best possible owners and not worry about the cosmetic stuff. We want people to be as attached as possible to their franchises and for some people being able to choose their locale is very important.

I agree 100%. We're focusing too much on geography, especially when some of the city names aren't even going to be the correct physical locations (for instance the Georgia teams).

[cthomer5000]

I agree 100%. We're focusing too much on geography, especially when some of the city names aren't even going to be the correct physical locations (for instance the Georgia teams).

and due to the grumblings regarding this, new owners can place their teams wherever they want. see the ping: new owners thread.

we'll work with whatever we have.

[Alf]

I'd like 3ric to be in the Frequent Flyers division with MIJB, Darkiller & myself => a full European division :D

[Dutch]

Well, now that I am in, I can say I am here and have the game.

[3ric]

I'll echo Dutch: "I am here and have the game" :D

[Vegas Vic]

yes and yes.

[WSUCougar]

Aye x 2

[Solecismic]

how long till we find a replacement for Jim? does he even know about this forum?

i'm sorry, i know he's busy (like we're all not), but if this is the level of participation we should come to expect from him i say dev or no dev - kindly move over for someone else to play.

i have a job and wife, and i still reserve even a couple minutes to check in here everyday despite all my other distractions. not much to expect from him or anyone else.

i just don't want us to be handcuffed to any particular owner if that owner proves himself not able to put in even a minimum amount of face-time. hopefully he's just reserving his "grand entrance" till the league is officially ready.

I haven't been checking this board, and, while I check the general discussion board about once a day, I only log in when I'm actually replying to a message.

I just received email from Primelord asking me to come here. So yes, I'm in.

In general, as I've said before, sending me PMs is probably the slowest way to communicate with me. I see now I have about two weeks' worth of PMs unread. I should just turn them off, so people will know to email me instead.

[VPI97]

In general, as I've said before, sending me PMs is probably the slowest way to communicate with me. I see now I have about two weeks' worth of PMs unread. I should just turn them off, so people will know to email me instead.Jim, if you don't mind, could you PM me the best e-mail address with which to contact you? Thanks...

[Anthony]

sorry Jim. i won't call you out again. thanks for checking in.

[Chubby]

yes and yes

[QuikSand]

I think its silly to force owners to locate in a specific area. What happens later when teams start moving anyway? I say just focus on getting the best possible owners and not worry about the cosmetic stuff. We want people to be as attached as possible to their franchises and for some people being able to choose their locale is very important.

But what about the costs involved? The tiny littel football players inside my computer will need to fly from city to city, and unless you keep the cities close together, this could get really expensive.

Geez, some people just don't think.

[Alf]

LOL

[Chubby]

But what about the costs involved? The tiny littel football players inside my computer will need to fly from city to city, and unless you keep the cities close together, this could get really expensive.

Geez, some people just don't think.


QS - I'm so let down...

[wade moore]

If you all need more folks, PM me... I don't check the board that often, but would for this...

This is what I always wanted with FOF... I do not have the new game yet, but would get it for on-line play...

[Ben E Lou]

If you all need more folks, PM me... I don't check the board that often, but would for this...

This is what I always wanted with FOF... I do not have the new game yet, but would get it for on-line play...Whoa! Hey wade!

[MIJB#19]

If you all need more folks, PM me... I don't check the board that often, but would for this...

This is what I always wanted with FOF... I do not have the new game yet, but would get it for on-line play...You wouldn't be the first.
With the help of an uncle and an alien, I am now playing fof2004 exclusively in IHOF mode.

I wouldn't advise playing along without at least experimenting around a bit, when I set my preference bars, I set them all up the other way around and ended up with the IHOF Cardinals. For their sake, I already traded two of the top 5 prospects on my team (and potential top100 guys in the league) to get experienced trouble makers from elsewhere.

[wade moore]

Whoa! Hey wade!

:D hola! I know, a rare sighting!


I wouldn't advise playing along without at least experimenting around a bit, when I set my preference bars, I set them all up the other way around and ended up with the IHOF Cardinals. For their sake, I already traded two of the top 5 prospects on my team (and potential top100 guys in the league) to get experienced trouble makers from elsewhere.

Yeah, i plan to get it asap either way... like you said, I don't want to jump into on-line play without playing this one at ALL...