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Ben E Lou

02-17-2004, 05:39 AM

Fido

02-17-2004, 07:37 AM

Because of the way booms/busts work in FOF2K4, I find myself doing a lot of work reloading old saves in order to track the overall current/future ratings for guys on my team. A utility to do this would be a *GREAT* addition to FOF2K4.
I'd do it, but I really don't feel like trying to reverse engineer the scouting algorithm, so I could only do it on raw data.

Ben E Lou

02-17-2004, 07:48 AM

I'd do it, but I really don't feel like trying to reverse engineer the scouting algorithm, so I could only do it on raw data.Can't do it from the scouting report output?

Ben E Lou

02-17-2004, 07:50 AM

Dola--

I'm thinking even something that required the player to print to file from the Scout Overview screen would beat the current method of printing out every end-of-season roster and comparing them, or copying and pasting into a spreadsheet and then having to move all the cells around to get the players to match up from year to year.

Barkeep49

02-17-2004, 08:52 AM

Agreed. I would really like to do a misfits challenge but don't have the patience to do the comparisons which I think would be needed to be successful.

sabotai

02-17-2004, 02:42 PM

Someone just released a utility not too long ago that goes through and captures data off of the player's screen. I'll try to find and bump. It's a great utility.

Ben E Lou

02-18-2004, 05:22 AM

Look what I got via e-mail!

Tucker Tigers Player Report

<TABLE border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>Name</TD><TD>Pos</TD><TD>2004 Current</TD><TD>2004 Future</TD><TD>2005 Current</TD><TD>2005 Future</TD><TD>2006 Current</TD><TD>2006 Future</TD><TD>2007 Current</TD><TD>2007 Future</TD><TD>2008 Current</TD><TD>2008 Future</TD><TD>Overall Current Change</TD><TD>Overall Future Change</TD></TR><TR><TD>Ackerman, Claude</TD><TD>RDE</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>23 (1)</TD><TD>27 (0)</TD><TD>26 (3)</TD><TD>28 (1)</TD><TD>27 (1)</TD><TD>29 (1)</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>2</TD></TR><TR><TD>Ali, Tony</TD><TD>LG</TD><TD>75</TD><TD>75</TD><TD>74 (-1)</TD><TD>74 (-1)</TD><TD>71 (-3)</TD><TD>72 (-2)</TD><TD>71 (0)</TD><TD>72 (0)</TD><TD>72 (1)</TD><TD>72 (0)</TD><TD>-3</TD><TD>-3</TD></TR><TR><TD>Amey, Bobby</TD><TD>LDT</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>23 (3)</TD><TD>33 (1)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Argueta, Donnie</TD><TD>FS</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Atkins, Grant</TD><TD>LT</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Baldridge, Daniel</TD><TD>FL</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Bare, Reno</TD><TD>NT</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>55</TD><TD>55</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Barrale, Kenny</TD><TD>FL</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>51</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Barrientos, Tyrell</TD><TD>RB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>26</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Bergeron, Al</TD><TD>RB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>42</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Berry, George</TD><TD>RDE</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Biddle, Alfred</TD><TD>LG</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>50</TD><TD>35 (4)</TD><TD>51 (1)</TD><TD>46 (11)</TD><TD>50 (-1)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Birmingham, Joe</TD><TD>RCB</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Blackstock, Ronald</TD><TD>SLB</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>57</TD><TD>32 (5)</TD><TD>57 (0)</TD><TD>37 (5)</TD><TD>58 (1)</TD><TD>35 (-2)</TD><TD>59 (1)</TD><TD>38 (3)</TD><TD>59 (0)</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>2</TD></TR><TR><TD>Bolsins, Antonio</TD><TD>MLB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>55</TD><TD>30 (3)</TD><TD>50 (-5)</TD><TD>32 (2)</TD><TD>41 (-9)</TD><TD>33 (1)</TD><TD>41 (0)</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>-14</TD></TR><TR><TD>Booker, Mo</TD><TD>RCB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>28</TD><TD>15 (3)</TD><TD>29 (1)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Bowlware, Buddy</TD><TD>QB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>40</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Bridges, Vinny</TD><TD>RG</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>41</TD><TD>22 (4)</TD><TD>43 (2)</TD><TD>24 (2)</TD><TD>42 (-1)</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Briley, Harry</TD><TD>QB</TD><TD>65</TD><TD>74</TD><TD>71 (6)</TD><TD>72 (-2)</TD><TD>74 (3)</TD><TD>74 (2)</TD><TD>73 (-1)</TD><TD>73 (-1)</TD><TD>70 (-3)</TD><TD>70 (-3)</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>-4</TD></TR><TR><TD>Brooks, Thomas</TD><TD>RCB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>53</TD><TD>53</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Butler, David</TD><TD>RB</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Casto, Arlie</TD><TD>FS</TD><TD>59</TD><TD>59</TD><TD>59 (0)</TD><TD>59 (0)</TD><TD>59 (0)</TD><TD>59 (0)</TD><TD>54 (-5)</TD><TD>54 (-5)</TD><TD>54 (0)</TD><TD>54 (0)</TD><TD>-5</TD><TD>-5</TD></TR><TR><TD>Celestine, Edmundo</TD><TD>LCB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>51</TD><TD>51</TD><TD>49 (-2)</TD><TD>49 (-2)</TD><TD>-2</TD><TD>-2</TD></TR><TR><TD>Chapin, Thomas</TD><TD>RDT</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>41</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Childress, Aubrey</TD><TD>WLB</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>46</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Chu, Francis</TD><TD>FL</TD><TD>68</TD><TD>68</TD><TD>41 (-27)</TD><TD>41 (-27)</TD><TD>35 (-6)</TD><TD>35 (-6)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>-33</TD><TD>-33</TD></TR><TR><TD>Clayton, Eddie</TD><TD>FS</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>44</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Clayton, Lester</TD><TD>WLB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Connor, Justin</TD><TD>RDT</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>27 (5)</TD><TD>36 (1)</TD><TD>29 (2)</TD><TD>39 (3)</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>4</TD></TR><TR><TD>Crawford, Wendell</TD><TD>RCB</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Darius, Melvin</TD><TD>LDE</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>25 (2)</TD><TD>30 (-2)</TD><TD>27 (2)</TD><TD>31 (1)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>-1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Davis, Luis</TD><TD>LT</TD><TD>44</TD><TD>44</TD><TD>53 (9)</TD><TD>53 (9)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>9</TD></TR><TR><TD>Deighton, Perry</TD><TD>RT</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Dennis, Neal</TD><TD>SE</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>42</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Depalma, Thomas</TD><TD>LDE</TD><TD>44</TD><TD>44</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Dixon, Cris</TD><TD>LCB</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>28</TD><TD>19 (3)</TD><TD>29 (1)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Eisenberg, Paris</TD><TD>FL</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>49</TD><TD>49</TD><TD>48 (-1)</TD><TD>48 (-1)</TD><TD>48 (0)</TD><TD>48 (0)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>-1</TD><TD>-1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Emmons, Sherman</TD><TD>FL</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Escamilla, Carey</TD><TD>P</TD><TD>81</TD><TD>81</TD><TD>81 (0)</TD><TD>81 (0)</TD><TD>81 (0)</TD><TD>81 (0)</TD><TD>81 (0)</TD><TD>81 (0)</TD><TD>81 (0)</TD><TD>81 (0)</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Everett, Gus</TD><TD>TE</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>37</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Everett, Jeremy</TD><TD>FL</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>39</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Flannery, Rico</TD><TD>QB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Francis, Thomas</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>45</TD><TD>45</TD><TD>43 (-2)</TD><TD>43 (-2)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>-2</TD><TD>-2</TD></TR><TR><TD>Frederick, Louie</TD><TD>WLB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>25 (7)</TD><TD>44 (6)</TD><TD>29 (4)</TD><TD>45 (1)</TD><TD>32 (3)</TD><TD>46 (1)</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>8</TD></TR><TR><TD>Gardocki, Travis</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Gebhart, Zachary</TD><TD>SS</TD><TD>53</TD><TD>53</TD><TD>52 (-1)</TD><TD>52 (-1)</TD><TD>43 (-9)</TD><TD>43 (-9)</TD><TD>38 (-5)</TD><TD>38 (-5)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>-15</TD><TD>-15</TD></TR><TR><TD>Gerhardt, Rick</TD><TD>SE</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Gillespie, Oscar</TD><TD>FL</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Gillis, Robert</TD><TD>WLB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>26</TD><TD>37</TD><TD>28 (2)</TD><TD>37 (0)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Glover, Matt</TD><TD>LDE</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>36</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Glynn, Cary</TD><TD>FB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>42</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Glynn, Terrell</TD><TD>QB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Goodwin, Jack</TD><TD>C</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Gramatica, Daryl</TD><TD>LDT</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>37</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Grantham, Branden</TD><TD>LCB</TD><TD>56</TD><TD>56</TD><TD>62 (6)</TD><TD>62 (6)</TD><TD>57 (-5)</TD><TD>57 (-5)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Guthrie, Tom</TD><TD>FS</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>65</TD><TD>46 (12)</TD><TD>66 (1)</TD><TD>53 (7)</TD><TD>72 (6)</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>7</TD></TR><TR><TD>Hall, Vaughn</TD><TD>LDT</TD><TD>50</TD><TD>50</TD><TD>50 (0)</TD><TD>50 (0)</TD><TD>44 (-6)</TD><TD>44 (-6)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>-6</TD><TD>-6</TD></TR><TR><TD>Hampton, Arnold</TD><TD>RCB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>37</TD><TD>25 (4)</TD><TD>39 (2)</TD><TD>28 (3)</TD><TD>39 (0)</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>2</TD></TR><TR><TD>Hardy, Dustin</TD><TD>RG</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>41</TD><TD>41</TD><TD>39 (-2)</TD><TD>39 (-2)</TD><TD>-2</TD><TD>-2</TD></TR><TR><TD>Harper, Nathan</TD><TD>QB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Hayes, Dwight</TD><TD>RDE</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Henderson, Norbert</TD><TD>TE</TD><TD>89</TD><TD>89</TD><TD>88 (-1)</TD><TD>88 (-1)</TD><TD>87 (-1)</TD><TD>87 (-1)</TD><TD>86 (-1)</TD><TD>86 (-1)</TD><TD>84 (-2)</TD><TD>84 (-2)</TD><TD>-5</TD><TD>-5</TD></TR><TR><TD>Hett, Corey</TD><TD>LDT</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>40</TD><TD>29 (7)</TD><TD>41 (1)</TD><TD>32 (3)</TD><TD>41 (0)</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Hickson, Clay</TD><TD>LDE</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>65</TD><TD>65</TD><TD>65 (0)</TD><TD>65 (0)</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Hoffman, Buster</TD><TD>SE</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>47</TD><TD>47</TD><TD>46 (-1)</TD><TD>46 (-1)</TD><TD>42 (-4)</TD><TD>42 (-4)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>-5</TD><TD>-5</TD></TR><TR><TD>Holliday, Joseph</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>83</TD><TD>83</TD><TD>83 (0)</TD><TD>83 (0)</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Howard, Grant</TD><TD>QB</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>43</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Huffman, Darrell</TD><TD>WLB</TD><TD>17</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Humble, Arnulfo</TD><TD>SE</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>80</TD><TD>80</TD><TD>80 (0)</TD><TD>80 (0)</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Humphries, Bill</TD><TD>RB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>41</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Jaffe, Perry</TD><TD>LCB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>17</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Jamison, Leonard</TD><TD>TE</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Jenkins, Archie</TD><TD>RCB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Kaczynski, Willie</TD><TD>WLB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Kemp, Lonnie</TD><TD>RT</TD><TD>50</TD><TD>50</TD><TD>49 (-1)</TD><TD>50 (0)</TD><TD>42 (-7)</TD><TD>43 (-7)</TD><TD>41 (-1)</TD><TD>41 (-2)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>-9</TD><TD>-9</TD></TR><TR><TD>Kenworthy, Travis</TD><TD>FS</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Kingsblood, Horace</TD><TD>RDE</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>40</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Klinger, Jack</TD><TD>SLB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>50</TD><TD>69</TD><TD>63 (13)</TD><TD>67 (-2)</TD><TD>71 (8)</TD><TD>71 (4)</TD><TD>51 (-20)</TD><TD>51 (-20)</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>-18</TD></TR><TR><TD>Klingler, Adam</TD><TD>LDE</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>27 (3)</TD><TD>37 (2)</TD><TD>31 (4)</TD><TD>39 (2)</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>4</TD></TR><TR><TD>Lafferty, Lamont</TD><TD>RT</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Lemieux, Harry</TD><TD>LCB</TD><TD>46</TD><TD>46</TD><TD>45 (-1)</TD><TD>45 (-1)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>-1</TD><TD>-1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Lewis, Jay</TD><TD>LCB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>36</TD><TD>34 (10)</TD><TD>40 (4)</TD><TD>38 (4)</TD><TD>41 (1)</TD><TD>40 (2)</TD><TD>42 (1)</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>6</TD></TR><TR><TD>Lueck, Phil</TD><TD>FL</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Majors, Patrick</TD><TD>FB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>36</TD><TD>60</TD><TD>42 (6)</TD><TD>58 (-2)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>-2</TD></TR><TR><TD>Manning, Lionel</TD><TD>LT</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>28</TD><TD>23 (3)</TD><TD>28 (0)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Manzanares, Douglas</TD><TD>C</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>47</TD><TD>47</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Martin, Elias</TD><TD>RDT</TD><TD>74</TD><TD>74</TD><TD>49 (-25)</TD><TD>49 (-25)</TD><TD>48 (-1)</TD><TD>48 (-1)</TD><TD>48 (0)</TD><TD>48 (0)</TD><TD>47 (-1)</TD><TD>47 (-1)</TD><TD>-27</TD><TD>-27</TD></TR><TR><TD>Mastromonaco, Levon</TD><TD>RB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>33</TD><TD>47</TD><TD>38 (5)</TD><TD>48 (1)</TD><TD>41 (3)</TD><TD>49 (1)</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>2</TD></TR><TR><TD>Matijacic, Winfred</TD><TD>RB</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Mattos, Vinny</TD><TD>RT</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>McCormick, Dusty</TD><TD>LT</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>McWilliams, Monty</TD><TD>LT</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>50</TD><TD>26 (4)</TD><TD>53 (3)</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>3</TD></TR><TR><TD>Mendez, Kenneth</TD><TD>QB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>49</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Miller, Bob</TD><TD>TE</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>34 (2)</TD><TD>48 (0)</TD><TD>36 (2)</TD><TD>48 (0)</TD><TD>35 (-1)</TD><TD>42 (-6)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>-6</TD></TR><TR><TD>Montgomery, Dexter</TD><TD>FB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>37</TD><TD>67</TD><TD>39 (2)</TD><TD>67 (0)</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Montgomery, Norman</TD><TD>QB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>42</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Munguia, Justin</TD><TD>C</TD><TD>84</TD><TD>86</TD><TD>83 (-1)</TD><TD>85 (-1)</TD><TD>82 (-1)</TD><TD>85 (0)</TD><TD>78 (-4)</TD><TD>82 (-3)</TD><TD>70 (-8)</TD><TD>74 (-8)</TD><TD>-14</TD><TD>-12</TD></TR><TR><TD>Murphy, Barry</TD><TD>SE</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Nakajo, Quinn</TD><TD>LT</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Obrien, Chris</TD><TD>SS</TD><TD>84</TD><TD>84</TD><TD>83 (-1)</TD><TD>83 (-1)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>-1</TD><TD>-1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Ohanian, Graham</TD><TD>RDE</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>24 (4)</TD><TD>30 (1)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Owen, Weldon</TD><TD>RDT</TD><TD>26</TD><TD>26</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Peebles, Dexter</TD><TD>WLB</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>51</TD><TD>25 (3)</TD><TD>46 (-5)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>-5</TD></TR><TR><TD>Perry, Desmond</TD><TD>RB</TD><TD>43</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>44 (1)</TD><TD>46 (-2)</TD><TD>45 (1)</TD><TD>45 (-1)</TD><TD>46 (1)</TD><TD>46 (1)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>-2</TD></TR><TR><TD>Peterson, Toby</TD><TD>LG</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Phillip, Jose</TD><TD>RG</TD><TD>85</TD><TD>88</TD><TD>87 (2)</TD><TD>88 (0)</TD><TD>85 (-2)</TD><TD>86 (-2)</TD><TD>85 (0)</TD><TD>86 (0)</TD><TD>85 (0)</TD><TD>87 (1)</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>-1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Raynor, Ron</TD><TD>MLB</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>45</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Riley, Joe</TD><TD>RCB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>40</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Riner, Maurice</TD><TD>RB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>37</TD><TD>44</TD><TD>40 (3)</TD><TD>45 (1)</TD><TD>43 (3)</TD><TD>46 (1)</TD><TD>45 (2)</TD><TD>47 (1)</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>3</TD></TR><TR><TD>Robison, Brady</TD><TD>RDE</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>58</TD><TD>58</TD><TD>58 (0)</TD><TD>58 (0)</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Robison, Courtney</TD><TD>RB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>37</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rodgers, Harvey</TD><TD>RB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>39</TD><TD>44</TD><TD>41 (2)</TD><TD>45 (1)</TD><TD>43 (2)</TD><TD>46 (1)</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>2</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rolfe, Donald</TD><TD>SLB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>45</TD><TD>54</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Sammons, Van</TD><TD>TE</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Sampson, Jackie</TD><TD>C</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>49</TD><TD>35 (5)</TD><TD>49 (0)</TD><TD>41 (6)</TD><TD>49 (0)</TD><TD>43 (2)</TD><TD>50 (1)</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Samuels, Brad</TD><TD>SS</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>43</TD><TD>33 (9)</TD><TD>40 (-3)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>-3</TD></TR><TR><TD>Sanderson, Artie</TD><TD>SE</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>63</TD><TD>32 (2)</TD><TD>64 (1)</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Sargent, Terry</TD><TD>RDE</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>31 (7)</TD><TD>36 (1)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Sax, Phil</TD><TD>TE</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>37</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Schaetzel, Myron</TD><TD>RG</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>42</TD><TD>22 (3)</TD><TD>44 (2)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>2</TD></TR><TR><TD>Schwartz, Cary</TD><TD>LDT</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>40</TD><TD>23 (2)</TD><TD>40 (0)</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Sheldon, Rod</TD><TD>RG</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>37</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Smith, David</TD><TD>SLB</TD><TD>50</TD><TD>74</TD><TD>54 (4)</TD><TD>72 (-2)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>-2</TD></TR><TR><TD>Spain, Porter</TD><TD>SE</TD><TD>51</TD><TD>51</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Spencer, Bert</TD><TD>QB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>42</TD><TD>34 (11)</TD><TD>44 (2)</TD><TD>44 (10)</TD><TD>44 (0)</TD><TD>47 (3)</TD><TD>47 (3)</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>5</TD></TR><TR><TD>Stacey, Luther</TD><TD>RDT</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Stanton, Graham</TD><TD>TE</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>47</TD><TD>29 (6)</TD><TD>50 (3)</TD><TD>38 (9)</TD><TD>57 (7)</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>10</TD></TR><TR><TD>Su, Dudley</TD><TD>QB</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>33</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Tanner, Leroy</TD><TD>RT</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Tanner, Mercury</TD><TD>FB</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>28</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Tokunaga, Jimmy</TD><TD>QB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>17</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Urena, William</TD><TD>FL</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>20 (2)</TD><TD>36 (-2)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>-2</TD></TR><TR><TD>Valerio, Whitney</TD><TD>RCB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>34 (-1)</TD><TD>35 (0)</TD><TD>34 (0)</TD><TD>35 (0)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>-1</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Velazquez, Franklin</TD><TD>MLB</TD><TD>75</TD><TD>75</TD><TD>72 (-3)</TD><TD>72 (-3)</TD><TD>72 (0)</TD><TD>72 (0)</TD><TD>73 (1)</TD><TD>73 (1)</TD><TD>70 (-3)</TD><TD>70 (-3)</TD><TD>-5</TD><TD>-5</TD></TR><TR><TD>Walters, Travis</TD><TD>FL</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Wang, Gene</TD><TD>SS</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Warren, Alan</TD><TD>RT</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>44</TD><TD>33 (1)</TD><TD>43 (-1)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>-1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Wells, Rex</TD><TD>LT</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>49</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>West, Kendall</TD><TD>FS</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>17</TD><TD>40</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Wheeler, Neal</TD><TD>MLB</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Wiggins, Brock</TD><TD>C</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Wilber, Javier</TD><TD>FB</TD><TD>55</TD><TD>56</TD><TD>55 (0)</TD><TD>56 (0)</TD><TD>54 (-1)</TD><TD>55 (-1)</TD><TD>48 (-6)</TD><TD>50 (-5)</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>-7</TD><TD>-6</TD></TR><TR><TD>Williamson, Mo</TD><TD>SE</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Wolfe, Forrest</TD><TD>TE</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR><TD>Young, Jason</TD><TD>RT</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>**</TD><TD>42</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>54 (12)</TD><TD>54 (6)</TD><TD>54 (0)</TD><TD>54 (0)</TD><TD>53 (-1)</TD><TD>53 (-1)</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>5</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Ben E Lou

02-18-2004, 05:33 AM

Dola--

I assume the person who gave me the output above from his utility will let us all know when it is ready to go public, but this looks *VERY* promising. All I had to do was do a "print to file" from the roster overview screen each season.

Ben E Lou

02-18-2004, 05:37 AM

Double dola--

One more nice thing (for the non-technical among us) is that the format used can be copied and pasted right into Word, and the fonts then resized for printing. I was able to fit this entire output onto four printed pages by resizing to 8 point, and maximizing the margins.

My only feedback for the creator of this utility is that it would be nice to have an option not to output guys who aren't on the most recent year's roster (although at times I'd love to have this history--specifically to see if one of those guys who I thought might break out one day, but couldn't keep on the roster for whatever reason, ever did.)

Does anyone else have any feedback regarding this output?

FBPro

02-18-2004, 05:48 AM

Nice!!!

Subby

02-18-2004, 06:54 AM

This is a great overview. It would be even nicer if we could see individual skill categories, however. I don't ever pay attention to the overall rating of a player...

Northwood_DK

02-18-2004, 06:59 AM

Wow. This is just what i have been looking for. Great work.

Ben E Lou

02-18-2004, 07:01 AM

This is a great overview. It would be even nicer if we could see individual skill categories, however. I don't ever pay attention to the overall rating of a player...Interesting. That would be great for more detailed analysis, but specifically I'm wanting this utility to speed up the identification of potential breakouts. It has been discussed here that one of the breakout development curves is that they'll have relatively modest increases in overall future potential for the first few years of their careers, then have a sharp bump one year. I'm just looking for a utility that will help me see, without looking through printout after printout, who is increasing in overall potential.

This was discussed in this thread. (http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17159)

primelord

02-18-2004, 09:04 AM

Ben E Lou

02-18-2004, 09:05 AM

Indeed I will. :)Didn't want to tell 'em it was you until you were ready to, Rick! THANKS!!!!!! :D

Subby

02-18-2004, 09:07 AM

Interesting. That would be great for more detailed analysis, but specifically I'm wanting this utility to speed up the identification of potential breakouts. It has been discussed here that one of the breakout development curves is that they'll have relatively modest increases in overall future potential for the first few years of their careers, then have a sharp bump one year. I'm just looking for a utility that will help me see, without looking through printout after printout, who is increasing in overall potential.

This was discussed in this thread. (http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17159) Absolutely...just spitballing ideas :)

Great work, Primelord!!!

primelord

02-18-2004, 09:09 AM

Double dola--

One more nice thing (for the non-technical among us) is that the format used can be copied and pasted right into Word, and the fonts then resized for printing. I was able to fit this entire output onto four printed pages by resizing to 8 point, and maximizing the margins.

I am going to add the option to output the information in plain text as well. I just started with the HTML output because I thought it would be easy to display on the board. I can also add the ability to output to a csv etc if people see any value to that.

My only feedback for the creator of this utility is that it would be nice to have an option not to output guys who aren't on the most recent year's roster (although at times I'd love to have this history--specifically to see if one of those guys who I thought might break out one day, but couldn't keep on the roster for whatever reason, ever did.)

That is an easy option to add. I will try and put that in today.

primelord

02-18-2004, 09:11 AM

This is a great overview. It would be even nicer if we could see individual skill categories, however. I don't ever pay attention to the overall rating of a player...

That would be great, but is far beyond anything I can do. :) It would require pulling the data out of the game and as Fido pointed out then figuring out the scouting algorithms and applying it to the raw data. If it would be difficult for Fido it would be impossible for me. :)

sabotai

02-18-2004, 02:43 PM

This is a great overview. It would be even nicer if we could see individual skill categories, however. I don't ever pay attention to the overall rating of a player...

The utility that I mentioned before, FOF Extractor, does this. I'll bump again. It takes a little work to do exactly what your asking, but it dumps all player information to a CSV file and then you can do what you will with it.

Karim

02-18-2004, 04:34 PM

Is there any way to sort by position instead of alphabetically? It doesn't have to be in the utility. For instance, could I export the Excel and do this?

Looks great!

primelord

02-18-2004, 04:49 PM

Is there any way to sort by position instead of alphabetically? It doesn't have to be in the utility. For instance, could I export the Excel and do this?

Looks great!

I am actually in the process of making that change now. :)

Karim

02-18-2004, 08:30 PM

Awesome!

fantastic flying froggies

02-19-2004, 05:54 AM

Drool...

With your ability to output to excel format, you've just made my day !

primelord

02-20-2004, 01:42 PM

Ok I am making some progress :)

<html><title>Tucker Tigers Player Report</title><h1>Tucker Tigers Player Report</h1><h2>(2004 - 2008)</h2><br><br><table border="1"><tr><td>Name</td><td>Pos</td><td>2004 Current</td><td>2004 Future</td><td>2005 Current</td><td>2005 Future</td><td>2006 Current</td><td>2006 Future</td><td>2007 Current</td><td>2007 Future</td><td>2008 Current</td><td>2008 Future</td><td>Overall Current Change</td><td>Overall Future Change</td></tr><tr><td>Bowlware, Buddy</td><td>QB</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>16</td><td>40</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Briley, Harry</td><td>QB</td><td>65</td><td>74</td><td>71 (6)</td><td>72 (-2)</td><td>74 (3)</td><td>74 (2)</td><td>73 (-1)</td><td>73 (-1)</td><td>70 (-3)</td><td>70 (-3)</td><td>5</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr><td>Glynn, Terrell</td><td>QB</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>34</td><td>34</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Spencer, Bert</td><td>QB</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>23</td><td>42</td><td>34 (11)</td><td>44 (2)</td><td>44 (10)</td><td>44 (0)</td><td>47 (3)</td><td>47 (3)</td><td>24</td><td>5</td></tr><tr><td>Mastromonaco, Levon</td><td>RB</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>33</td><td>47</td><td>38 (5)</td><td>48 (1)</td><td>41 (3)</td><td>49 (1)</td><td>8</td><td>2</td></tr><tr><td>Riner, Maurice</td><td>RB</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>37</td><td>44</td><td>40 (3)</td><td>45 (1)</td><td>43 (3)</td><td>46 (1)</td><td>45 (2)</td><td>47 (1)</td><td>8</td><td>3</td></tr><tr><td>Robison, Courtney</td><td>RB</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>29</td><td>37</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Rodgers, Harvey</td><td>RB</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>39</td><td>44</td><td>41 (2)</td><td>45 (1)</td><td>43 (2)</td><td>46 (1)</td><td>4</td><td>2</td></tr><tr><td>Glynn, Cary</td><td>FB</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>27</td><td>42</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Montgomery, Dexter</td><td>FB</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>37</td><td>67</td><td>39 (2)</td><td>67 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Everett, Gus</td><td>TE</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>19</td><td>37</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Henderson, Norbert</td><td>TE</td><td>89</td><td>89</td><td>88 (-1)</td><td>88 (-1)</td><td>87 (-1)</td><td>87 (-1)</td><td>86 (-1)</td><td>86 (-1)</td><td>84 (-2)</td><td>84 (-2)</td><td>-5</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr><td>Stanton, Graham</td><td>TE</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>23</td><td>47</td><td>29 (6)</td><td>50 (3)</td><td>38 (9)</td><td>57 (7)</td><td>15</td><td>10</td></tr><tr><td>Barrale, Kenny</td><td>FL</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>30</td><td>51</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Sanderson, Artie</td><td>FL</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>32</td><td>64</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Dennis, Neal</td><td>SE</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>24</td><td>42</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Gerhardt, Rick</td><td>SE</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>20</td><td>25</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Humble, Arnulfo</td><td>SE</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>80</td><td>80</td><td>80 (0)</td><td>80 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Munguia, Justin</td><td>C</td><td>84</td><td>86</td><td>83 (-1)</td><td>85 (-1)</td><td>82 (-1)</td><td>85 (0)</td><td>78 (-4)</td><td>82 (-3)</td><td>70 (-8)</td><td>74 (-8)</td><td>-14</td><td>-12</td></tr><tr><td>Sampson, Jackie</td><td>C</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>30</td><td>49</td><td>35 (5)</td><td>49 (0)</td><td>41 (6)</td><td>49 (0)</td><td>43 (2)</td><td>50 (1)</td><td>13</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Wiggins, Brock</td><td>C</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>22</td><td>38</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Ali, Tony</td><td>LG</td><td>75</td><td>75</td><td>74 (-1)</td><td>74 (-1)</td><td>71 (-3)</td><td>72 (-2)</td><td>71 (0)</td><td>72 (0)</td><td>72 (1)</td><td>72 (0)</td><td>-3</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>Bridges, Vinny</td><td>LG</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>24</td><td>42</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Hardy, Dustin</td><td>RG</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>41</td><td>41</td><td>39 (-2)</td><td>39 (-2)</td><td>-2</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr><td>Phillip, Jose</td><td>RG</td><td>85</td><td>88</td><td>87 (2)</td><td>88 (0)</td><td>85 (-2)</td><td>86 (-2)</td><td>85 (0)</td><td>86 (0)</td><td>85 (0)</td><td>87 (1)</td><td>0</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>McWilliams, Monty</td><td>LT</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>22</td><td>50</td><td>26 (4)</td><td>53 (3)</td><td>4</td><td>3</td></tr><tr><td>Nakajo, Quinn</td><td>LT</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>11</td><td>38</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Wells, Rex</td><td>LT</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>18</td><td>49</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Deighton, Perry</td><td>RT</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>19</td><td>30</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Young, Jason</td><td>RT</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>42</td><td>48</td><td>54 (12)</td><td>54 (6)</td><td>54 (0)</td><td>54 (0)</td><td>53 (-1)</td><td>53 (-1)</td><td>11</td><td>5</td></tr><tr><td>Holliday, Joseph</td><td>K</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>83</td><td>83</td><td>83 (0)</td><td>83 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Escamilla, Carey</td><td>P</td><td>81</td><td>81</td><td>81 (0)</td><td>81 (0)</td><td>81 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</pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>14</td><td>35</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Frederick, Louie</td><td>WLB</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>18</td><td>38</td><td>25 (7)</td><td>44 (6)</td><td>29 (4)</td><td>45 (1)</td><td>32 (3)</td><td>46 (1)</td><td>14</td><td>8</td></tr><tr><td>Celestine, Edmundo</td><td>LCB</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>51</td><td>51</td><td>49 (-2)</td><td>49 (-2)</td><td>-2</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr><td>Jaffe, Perry</td><td>LCB</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>17</td><td>32</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Lewis, Jay</td><td>LCB</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>24</td><td>36</td><td>34 (10)</td><td>40 (4)</td><td>38 (4)</td><td>41 (1)</td><td>40 (2)</td><td>42 (1)</td><td>16</td><td>6</td></tr><tr><td>Brooks, Thomas</td><td>RCB</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>53</td><td>53</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Hampton, Arnold</td><td>RCB</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>21</td><td>37</td><td>25 (4)</td><td>39 (2)</td><td>28 (3)</td><td>39 (0)</td><td>7</td><td>2</td></tr><tr><td>Riley, Joe</td><td>RCB</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>10</td><td>40</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Casto, Arlie</td><td>SS</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>54</td><td>54</td><td>54 (0)</td><td>54 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Wang, Gene</td><td>SS</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>19</td><td>35</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Guthrie, Tom</td><td>FS</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>34</td><td>65</td><td>46 (12)</td><td>66 (1)</td><td>53 (7)</td><td>72 (6)</td><td>19</td><td>7</td></tr><tr><td>Kenworthy, Travis</td><td>FS</td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td><pre> </pre></td><td>16</td><td>25</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr></table></html>

primelord

02-20-2004, 01:49 PM

Dola,

I have added the option to either display all players or only players that were on the most recent roster. And I have changed it so it sorts by position. The position sorting is done the same way FOF sorts by position (atleast I think it is. I was doing it from memory. :)). I have also added the option to putput the text in a format that can be slurped into excel.

I was thinking of color coding some of the table boxes in the html output. Does seem like a good idea? Something like green for a ratings increase and red for a decrease? Should that only be done for the overall columns?

primelord

02-20-2004, 01:50 PM

Interesting... my html output seems to have sucked the whole bottom part of the thread into that post. :) Anyone have any ideas how to fix that?

cuervo72

02-20-2004, 02:16 PM

I'm guessing there's a table tag somewhere you didn't close.

primelord

02-20-2004, 02:25 PM

I'm guessing there's a table tag somewhere you didn't close.

That was it. I am stupid. :) Thanks cuervo!

cuervo72

02-20-2004, 02:33 PM

Don't worry, I've done that many a time :)

primelord

02-20-2004, 02:53 PM

Just a quick update. Right now the program is a command line program. (I am a unix programmer. Everything starts out as a command line program for me. :)) I am starting to put together the little gui for it now. I should probably have something useable to release this weekend.

FBPro

02-20-2004, 06:21 PM

Awesome, looking forward to it.

Northwood_DK

03-02-2004, 07:49 AM

Bump

Any news on this great toy?

primelord

03-02-2004, 09:26 AM

Yes I apologize work has slowed my progress on this. The command line version of the program is ready to go. It's the GUI that still needs a little work. I am going to package up the command line version, hopefully today, and let people start playing around with that if they want to until I get the gui version finished.

druez

03-02-2004, 09:34 AM

I'm ok with a command line, great job primelord.

Ben E Lou

03-02-2004, 12:36 PM

primelord

03-02-2004, 08:39 PM

Ben E Lou

03-02-2004, 08:46 PM

Ok I am getting closer. I am working out one little problem and I should have something out tonight. Hopefully SkyDog will be around as I need someone to host it. :)

The command line version only does HTML output. I started adding the csv and text output into the now half finished GUI version. :)I'll be up for another hour or so I'm guessing. Keep me updated on how close you are, so I can know whether to stay up and wait on it, or go on to bed and get it in the morning.

Ben E Lou

03-02-2004, 10:02 PM

Update?

primelord

03-02-2004, 10:11 PM

Update?

Bah I am having problems with the stupid command line option that allows you to only display players who were on last years squad. (Wonder who requested that feature? :))

It works fine before I try to compile into a stand alone windows executeable. Then it freaks out on me. I'll just e-mail it to you tonight Ben. And you can host it when you get it in the morning. (Assuming you don't mind hosting it.) Thanks.

primelord

03-02-2004, 10:14 PM

Dola,

Actually I think I have it fixed now. I am getting ready to e-mail it to you.

primelord

03-02-2004, 10:34 PM

I have sent my first contribution to the utility community to SkyDog. This code should be considered in very alpha stages. It is a very simple program so I don't suspect that there will be any problems, but I obviously don't take any responsibility for what it does. :)

As I have stated above it is a command line program at the moment. The GUI version is in the works, but I have not had much time to work on it lately. The program is written in Perl so it is not going to be the fastest thing on earth, but given it's simple nature I don't suspect you will have too many problems.

So here is what the program does at the moment. :)

change_tracker will track the changes in your players current and future estimate ratings. In order to track the changes you must print to file the Scout Overview roster screen. It doesn't need to be sorted in any specific way, but the files must be named in the following format (year).txt so for example for the 2004 season you would save the file as 2004.txt.

To run the program open up a DOS command prompt and run program from within that prompt window. Make sure the files you are tracking are in the same directory as the program. It will prompt you to enter the filenames you want to track. At the prompt enter all the files names you wish to use. They should all be entered on the same line seperated by a space, but can be in any order. The program however will read them in order by their names. So it will assume the file called 2004.txt is older than 2005.txt etc.

After you have entered all the file names just hit enter and it will create a file called player_report.html in the same directory. This will contain an HTML table with your tracked players.

If you only want to track players who were on the most recent roster you can run the following command.

change_tracker.exe -m short

This will only track players who were on the most recent years roster. The next version will have a lot more flexibility. :)

If you have any questions, comments, suggestions etc just let me know.

Ben E Lou

03-03-2004, 04:27 AM

Heh. Outlook blocked access to the file, I assume because it is an EXE. Anyone know how to get around this? If not, we'll have to wait until primelord wakes up this morn, and I'll use a different e-mail program.

Alf

03-03-2004, 04:43 AM

Ben E Lou

03-03-2004, 04:48 AM

SkyDog. You're stuck until primelord sends it again (as a zip file). You can change your Outlook security settings somewhere (I don't have it in front of me) so that he doesn't screw you with what he supposes is "virus" program.

I know what you are talking about, because I had the same thing happen to me with an XL file (sent by me from work !!!)I'm looking at the security settings, and don't see anything about attachments, just Digital ID's. I would feel pretty safe downgrading Outlook's security, considering that my anti-virus software company has a new auto-update just about every other day.

primelord

03-03-2004, 09:04 AM

I'm looking at the security settings, and don't see anything about attachments, just Digital ID's. I would feel pretty safe downgrading Outlook's security, considering that my anti-virus software company has a new auto-update just about every other day.

Well damn it. I was going to zip it up and then decided not to at the last minute. :(

Are you using Outlook or Outlook Express?

Ben E Lou

03-03-2004, 09:21 AM

Well damn it. I was going to zip it up and then decided not to at the last minute. :(

Are you using Outlook or Outlook Express?Outlook. Let me know before you send it though, and I'll turn Outlook off, and then I can use the web-based client to retrieve it.

Or....you can zip it up.

primelord

03-03-2004, 09:28 AM

Outlook. Let me know before you send it though, and I'll turn Outlook off, and then I can use the web-based client to retrieve it.

Or....you can zip it up.

Ok I am just going to forward it again now. If you still have problems I will zip it up. It is on it's way.

Ben E Lou

03-03-2004, 09:29 AM

Ok I am just going to forward it again now. If you still have problems I will zip it up. It is on it's way.'K. Just turned Outlook off.

Ben E Lou

03-03-2004, 09:57 AM

Working like a charm!

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Uploading now.

Ben E Lou

03-03-2004, 09:59 AM

Download Link For The Utility (http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/fof/change_tracker.exe)

Once the GUI version is finished, let's start a new thread for this, and I'll link to it in the archive thread.

Alf

03-03-2004, 10:21 AM

Stupid question : does it work in MultiPlayer ?

I have tracked my players with an excel file and already saw young guys increase in ratings during the preseason.

2nd stupid question:

So can we save our rosters as 2004_preseason.txt, 2004_season.txt, 2005_pre.txt etc... and have it work with the util ? Or do we have to "cheat" and save 2004_pre as 2003, and 2004_season as 2004.txt, etc, etc ?

primelord

03-03-2004, 10:40 AM

Stupid question : does it work in MultiPlayer ?

I have tracked my players with an excel file and already saw young guys increase in ratings during the preseason.

Yes it will work just fine with MultiPlayer. Since it is just reading the roster print out it shouldn't make a difference either way.

2nd stupid question:

So can we save our rosters as 2004_preseason.txt, 2004_season.txt, 2005_pre.txt etc... and have it work with the util ? Or do we have to "cheat" and save 2004_pre as 2003, and 2004_season as 2004.txt, etc, etc ?

That will work, but you will have to cheat to get it to. Since the roster print out doesn't contain any reference to the time frame the only way my program can know which order to put them into is by the file name.

Now with that being said it should be rather easy to get it to behave the way you want. It simply does a normal sort on the file names to determine what order they should be in. So in other words 2004a.txt would be processed before 2004b.txt. Or even 2004_preseason.txt would be processed before 2004_season.txt. You just need to make sure the files you want processed are in alphabetical order and it will sort them that way.

Keep in mind the column headings and title information is also pulled from the file names.

3ric

03-03-2004, 01:15 PM

Hmm, I can't get the program to accept names such as "1994a.txt" or "1994b.txt" ?

Alf

03-03-2004, 01:18 PM

Thanks primelord. Will try and let you know what comes out !

Alf

03-03-2004, 01:26 PM

OK, same as 3ric. Your program only accepts YYYY.txt files. I cheated and renamed my exports 2003.txt & 2004.txt. Reports OK but some errors on scouting (one of my MLB Hollard is shown as havng lost all his ratings whereas he hasn't, I promise !).

primelord

03-03-2004, 01:29 PM

Hmm, I can't get the program to accept names such as "1994a.txt" or "1994b.txt" ?

Well crap. That would be because I force the filename to be in a YYYY format. I forgot about that. So what I told Alf would work if I would allow you to enter the filenames that way. :)

I'll make an update and send it out tonight that allows you to enter any filename you want. I wanted to restrict the file names to be less confusing, but I think people will get the idea and it should be even more obvious with the GUI.

primelord

03-03-2004, 01:33 PM

Reports OK but some errors on scouting (one of my MLB Hollard is shown as havng lost all his ratings whereas he hasn't, I promise !).

Interesting.... Does it do the same thing with that player if you go from year to year?

Alf

03-03-2004, 03:13 PM

primelord : I don't know since I only play in the IHOF multiplayer league (I can send you the txt files if you want).

primelord

03-03-2004, 03:20 PM

primelord : I don't know since I only play in the IHOF multiplayer league (I can send you the txt files if you want).

That would be great. You can e-mail them to primelord2121 AT yahoo DOT com

Alf

03-03-2004, 03:39 PM

email sent from my home email address with both files and the HTML output

primelord

03-03-2004, 04:03 PM

email sent from my home email address with both files and the HTML output

Ok I see the problem. It's because Hollar is listed as the starter in one list and not in the other. I'll fix that tonight along with the file name problem.

Just a quick update there is an outside chance I will have a GUI version done tonight. It is pretty ugly at the moment and I am having trouble squashing a bug, but it is coming together.

Ben E Lou

03-03-2004, 04:05 PM

It is pretty ugly at the momentGood. Keep it that way. ;)

primelord

03-03-2004, 04:09 PM

Ok I see the problem. It's because Hollar is listed as the starter in one list and not in the other. I'll fix that tonight along with the file name problem.

Actually that isn't the problem. My program already handles that. Alf I noticed in your text files that the contract column doesn't have yr. or yrs after it. That is what is throwing the program off. Did you remove those yourself or did your print to file output just not include them?

primelord

03-03-2004, 04:15 PM

Dola,

After looking at it a little further it looks like the last few characters of your last column are getting cut off for some reason. I am not certain why that is, but I am going to make a change that should make it work even if you are missing those last few characters.

Alf

03-04-2004, 08:41 AM

primelord : I just went to my roster view and did a print to file. Never edited what was inside the file. Only the filename itself.

primelord

03-04-2004, 09:58 AM

primelord : I just went to my roster view and did a print to file. Never edited what was inside the file. Only the filename itself.
That's strange. The out put SkyDog gave me didn't cut those last few characters off. No matter though. I am changing the way I handle the columns now anyway so it shouldn't matter. Of course changing that seemed to introduce a new bug that didn't have time to knock out last night so hopefully I will find ome time today.

3ric

03-04-2004, 11:31 AM

Ok I see the problem. It's because Hollar is listed as the starter in one list and not in the other. I'll fix that tonight along with the file name problem.

Just a quick update there is an outside chance I will have a GUI version done tonight. It is pretty ugly at the moment and I am having trouble squashing a bug, but it is coming together.

I ran the program with three files, and it used the contract years instead of the current value for the last file, but only for those listed as starters. I got it to work by removing the values in the "starters" column. Is that the same problem as in the uote?

primelord

03-04-2004, 12:27 PM

I ran the program with three files, and it used the contract years instead of the current value for the last file, but only for those listed as starters. I got it to work by removing the values in the "starters" column. Is that the same problem as in the uote?
In your print outs are you lissing the last few characters in the contract column?

Here is an example of the print out SkyDog game me:

Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Briley, Harry 4 QB QB 5 70 70 2 yrs

And here is an example of the output Alf sent me:

Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntr
Johnson, Joe 13 QB QB 7 53 62 5

For some reason Alf's output is missing the "ct" on the end of the Cntrct column heading and more importantly is missing the "yrs" part for the player. My program was determining whether or not the player was a starter based on the number of word groups in each player line and the missing yrs was throwing it off. Atleast I think that is where the problem is. :)

3ric

03-04-2004, 02:51 PM

Yes, exactly. I had a file like this:

Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntr
Kelly, Jim 15 QB QB 12 75 75 3
Bledsoe, Drew 1 QB 2 34 61 2
Dilfer, Trent 16 QB 1 26 51 1

The utility reported that Kelly suffered a -72 drop in current ratings during the season... :)

Alf

03-05-2004, 05:13 AM

primelord : my "print to file" files look exactly like 3ric's. I don't have the "ct" and "yrs" either.

Northwood_DK

03-05-2004, 06:10 AM

my 2-cents.

I have the same problem, but only with prints made with the old patch (5.0b). When i use my old prints i mixes up Exp with ratings, but the new ones works fine.

primelord

03-05-2004, 09:47 AM

3ric and Alf: Have you updated to 5.0d?

Again it really shouldn't matter once I get the next version out. However real life is slowing that process down.

3ric

03-05-2004, 11:34 AM

3ric and Alf: Have you updated to 5.0d?

Again it really shouldn't matter once I get the next version out. However real life is slowing that process down.

Yes, I have 5.0d. It's probably our European settings in windows... :)

Alf

03-05-2004, 03:38 PM

I am on 5.0d. I am on Win XP (French Edition). maybe a setting in the Generic Printer (although the config is very basic...).

Vegas Vic

03-10-2004, 05:29 AM

Outstanding work, Primelord.

You have made player development tracking an ease with this utility.

primelord

03-10-2004, 09:18 AM

Outstanding work, Primelord.

You have made player development tracking an ease with this utility.
Well hopefully it will be even easier soon. :) I keep running into real life issues that keep me from finishing the GUI version. I should hopefully have it finished soon.

primelord

03-10-2004, 11:28 PM

I had some time to work on the utility tonight, but I am still trying to squash a few bugs. It is getting close to complete though. Hopefully I will have it done by tomorrow night. The interface isn't first class, but it should get the job done. :)

http://thewhiterabbit.org/change_tracker_screenshot.png

Northwood_DK

03-11-2004, 01:20 AM

Looks very cool. Great work and thanks

Sweed

03-14-2004, 08:34 AM

Any word on how the gui version is coming along? Not in any hurry just don't want to miss it when it comes out.

Thanks

Karim

03-15-2004, 08:24 AM

Great job primelord. This utility really makes it easy to determine whether a player's ratings are deteriorating and if he is worth hanging on to in hopes of busting out.

Ben E Lou

04-09-2004, 06:03 AM

Prime:

Since the non-gui version works just fine, do you want me to link to this thread in the reference thread for now, or is the gui version somewhat imminent? No rush, but just wanting to make sure people know this is available.

primelord

04-09-2004, 10:50 AM

What the screen shot of the gui version isn't good enough for you????? :)

I would say the gui version is imminent, but I would have said that a month ago as well so I don't want to make nay promises. Work has just kept me too busy to hammer out the last bit. Don't link to the non-gui version quite yet. I may see if I can finish it up this weekend. I will let you know on Monday.

Alf

04-09-2004, 11:09 AM

Nice

Northwood_DK

04-21-2004, 02:20 AM

Bump

Any new on this great tool?

cthomer5000

05-01-2004, 06:50 AM

how did I miss this the first time around? greatest utility ever!

chinaski

06-29-2004, 01:01 PM

any news on the gui? i use this util more than any other, very nice work primelord.

cthomer5000

06-29-2004, 01:31 PM

i retract my "greatest utility ever" remark. while this is outstanding, I think the FOF Almanac was the greatest utility ever.

pardon my prior haste in crowing this utility.

And yeah, I'd love to see the new interface rockin, although this does get the job done as-is.

VPI97

06-29-2004, 03:04 PM

i retract my "greatest utility ever" remark. while this is outstanding, I think the FOF Almanac was the greatest utility ever.http://www.fof-ihof.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_kissass.gif

gstelmack

06-29-2004, 03:18 PM

I think the FOF Almanac was the greatest utility ever.
Did I miss something?

VPI97

06-29-2004, 06:45 PM

Did I miss something?Don't worry about it...the FOF Almanac was soooo 2002. It's like prehistoric now :)

cthomer5000

06-29-2004, 06:49 PM

Don't worry about it...the FOF Almanac was soooo 2002. It's like prehistoric now :)
For a while there I forgot you were the one who wrote it. Seriously the most amazing add-on to an FOF game yet. I'm sure it had a lot to do with Jim adding a ton more record keeping in the next version.

primelord

06-29-2004, 09:06 PM

Seriously the most amazing add-on to an FOF game yet.Without question. Fido's HTML extraction utility was pretty kick ass as well. As is gstelmack's extractor program. My little crappy CLI program that doesn't even work for the European users pales in comparison.

As for the GUI interface... it's coming. Very slowly. :) I could release it now, but it won't do anything when you pres the buttons. :) It's pretty though.

cthomer5000

07-02-2004, 01:35 PM

I think I may have found a bug. The utility seems to ignore players with nicknames in quotes. The players are in my roster print-outs, but just aren't showing up in the HTML output.

cthomer5000

07-12-2004, 09:29 PM

bump. Don't know if primelord ever saw my bug report here (and I'm feeling too lazy to PM him about it).

primelord

07-13-2004, 10:31 AM

I think I may have found a bug. The utility seems to ignore players with nicknames in quotes. The players are in my roster print-outs, but just aren't showing up in the HTML output.
Hmm yeah that would screw it up. Blame Ben for not giving me any smaple files with nicknames in them. :)

Well this has inspired me enough to go ahead and finish the GUI version. Expect something by the end of the week.

gstelmack

07-13-2004, 10:44 AM

Hmm yeah that would screw it up. Blame Ben for not giving me any smaple files with nicknames in them. :)
I'm curious to find out if Extractor handles them. I had to put college names in quotes because of colleges with commas in the name. I don't think I've had to quote player names, so I THINK I'm okay...

Pyser

08-29-2004, 08:55 PM

bumping with fingers crossed

Joe

09-05-2004, 01:40 PM

how do you print to file from the game?

3ric

09-05-2004, 02:38 PM

You have to install the "Print to file" printer driver in Windows, there's a link in the stickied reference thread about this.

FBPro

09-09-2004, 11:43 PM

Has this been released as a GUI program yet or is it still command line only?

Cap Ologist

09-09-2004, 11:45 PM

as far as i know its still command line only.

FBPro

09-09-2004, 11:47 PM

K, thanks

beatle

09-12-2004, 08:08 PM

Sky Dog,

I downloaded the tracker utility but I am having problems in using it. I am unsure of how the tracker works. Can you give me some instructions.

Ben E Lou

09-12-2004, 08:16 PM

Sky Dog,

I downloaded the tracker utility but I am having problems in using it. I am unsure of how the tracker works. Can you give me some instructions.http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/showpost.php?p=399119&postcount=41

beatle

09-12-2004, 08:47 PM

Sky Dog.

I am still having problems finding my saved games. I can not find my saved games. I looked in the Universe file without success. I am lost. I put 2004.txt in the universe and fof 2004 file without results. No player file HTLM file showed up. Any suggestions.

Joe

09-12-2004, 08:50 PM

you have to put them in the same folder that the ratings tracker is in

chinaski

09-12-2004, 08:53 PM

this is gonna get good.

beatle

09-12-2004, 09:00 PM

I put the ratings tracker in Fof 2004 without a folder. I think you need to put the tracker where the saved game is, however I can't find the saved game file to put the tracker in the same file.

Ben E Lou

09-12-2004, 09:02 PM

I put the ratings tracker in Fof 2004 without a folder. I think you need to put the tracker where the saved game is, however I can't find the saved game file to put the tracker in the same file.Did you read the post (#41) in this thread where primelord explains exactly what to do? The savegame is immaterial. All that matters are the 200x.txt roster files.

beatle

09-12-2004, 09:10 PM

Ben E Lou

09-12-2004, 09:11 PM

Yes the directions say "Make sure the files you are tracking are in the same directory as the program." However, I am not sure where I should put the tracker in the first place. And yes this is getting good."FILES YOU ARE TRACKING"=2004.txt, 2005.txt, 2006.txt, etc.

"THE PROGRAM"=The utility that primelord wrote, not FOF2K4.

beatle

09-12-2004, 09:13 PM

What program is it for? And that explains the problem.

beatle

09-12-2004, 09:14 PM

Thanks for the help and the time you spent as well.

chinaski

09-12-2004, 09:15 PM

Beatle: You need this first, http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/showpost.php?p=288358&postcount=3

You need to print to be able to print to file. Once you get that, then open up FOF, then your roster. Click Print, and then print it to a file. Take that file, name it 2003.txt (or whatever season youre in) and then move it to the folder where you have filetracker. Filetracker can be anywhere, mine just sits on my desktop in a folder named fof_tracker.

Ben E Lou

09-12-2004, 09:15 PM

What program is it for? And that explains the problem.

:confused:

{Why do I get the feeling I'm talking to Chubby?}

beatle

09-12-2004, 09:22 PM

Joe

09-12-2004, 09:24 PM

it is for fof2004....

beatle

09-12-2004, 09:30 PM

Thankyou Chinaski, I will try it Monday. It's been a long night.

Ben E Lou

09-12-2004, 09:31 PM

You said the program was not for FOF 2004 so I thought that it may have been for an earlier FOF program. Once again thanks for the effort, but if you did not want to respond to the questions you should not have responded to the post.Considering you DIRECTED the post toward me, I needed to respond. If you'll read carefully, you'll notice that I answered the question.

beatle

09-12-2004, 09:37 PM

Yes you did answer the question and I thankyou for that, however I did not care for the last remark. It appears you have a large knowledge base for this type computer gamming. I do not and that's why I asked the question. No one likes to be insulted for asking a question.

Joe

09-12-2004, 10:00 PM

skydog needs to put himself in the penalty box for that last remark

Subby

09-13-2004, 03:32 PM

Finally got a chance to use this utility...great work, Rick!

I just cut and pasted the HTML into Excel and was able to do all the dork-boy sorting that I am want to do...

Thanks again...

primelord

09-13-2004, 03:40 PM

Finally got a chance to use this utility...great work, Rick!

I just cut and pasted the HTML into Excel and was able to do all the dork-boy sorting that I am want to do...

Thanks again...
Thanks! I am glad people are getting use out this. Especially considering it doesn't work perfectly and is a bit cumbersome. I figure I will finish the GUI version just about the time Jim releases a new game and no one will have any use for it. :)

Subby

09-13-2004, 03:44 PM

eh...the command line is so easy to use I don't see the point of wasting your time making a GUI...

:)

primelord

09-15-2004, 01:08 AM

Just as an FYI incase anyone looks for an update in this thread. A new minor update has been made to the utility and can be found in the following thread:

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/showthread.php?t=30379