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AgPete
03-25-2004, 09:13 AM
***** VOTING CLOSED *****

The NFL has an all-decade team. The NBA has an "official" list of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History. If there's enough interest, I thought we could create the FOFC All-Time NFL Team since football is what brought most people to this forum to begin with.

It works like this, I post a poll for each position, and classify players by their positions. Generally, all players will be listed by a position, not which side they play on or if they're strong side. FOFC voters pick enough players to fill a regular team. At the bottom of this opening statement, I'll list all previous results and you will be able to see names and player pictures as the team is built. If you do not agree with the nominees in the all-time position vote, please feel free to write-in your candidate. Some suggestions for other players are at the bottom of this thread.

FOFC selects:

3 Quarterbacks
4 Running backs
3 Tight Ends
5 Wide Receivers
4 Offensive Tackles
4 Offensive Guards
2 Centers
4 Defensive Ends
4 Defensive Tackles
5 Linebackers
4 Safeties
5 Cornerbacks
1 Kicker and Punter

Have a webpage set up now for the final team results.Click here for the FOFC All-Time NFL Team Page. (http://home.cfl.rr.com/wfldynasty/FOFCalltimeteam.htm)

Previous Results:

Quarterback voting closed. Link: http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showthread.php?t=23508

Wide receiver voting in progress Link: http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showthread.php?t=23560

If I make any mistakes on the stats, let me know. Thanks.

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THE ALL-TIME FOFC CORNERBACK - Select 5 players in the poll

Herb Adderley
http://members.tripod.com/~nflpics1/AdderleyGB.jpg
Interceptions: 48
Pro Bowls: 5

Lem Barney
http://www.profootballhof.com/photos/barneymem.jpg
Interceptions: 56
Pro Bowls: 7

Mel Blount
http://members.tripod.com/~nfl002/Blountpit.jpg
Interceptions: 57
Pro Bowls: 5

Willie Brown
http://home.tiscali.de/oakland.raiders/images/geschichte/halloffame/willie.brown.jpeg
Interceptions: 54
Pro Bowls: 9

Darrell Green
http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/nfl/2000/1001/photo/a_green_i.jpg
Interceptions: 54
Pro Bowls: 7

Mike Haynes
http://www.sportsattic.com/nflphoto/photos8/Haynes,Mike3.jpg
Interceptions: 46
Pro Bowls: 9

Jimmy Johnson
http://www.sportsattic.com/nflphoto/photos4/Johnson,Jimmy1.jpg
Interceptions: 47
Pro Bowls: 5

Dick "Night Train" Lane
http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/PHOTOFILE/AAEA023.jpg
Interceptions: 68
Pro Bowls: 7

Mel Renfro
http://users.conwaycorp.net/tstone/renfro.JPG
Interceptions: 52
Pro Bowls: 10
(** also played safety)

Deion Sanders
http://sportsmed.starwave.com/i/magazine/new/deion_sanders_a.jpg
Interceptions: 48
Pro Bowls: 8

Other
(If your choice is not listed in the poll, please write-in your choice below. It will be counted with the other votes.)

cthomer5000
03-25-2004, 09:42 AM
You could have debatebly have included Ronnie Lott here, who started his career at CB (even making the pro bowl). Still, he'll likely be a lock in the safety category.

I voted Night Train and Deion, two absolutely different styles.

AgPete
03-25-2004, 09:44 AM
You could have debatebly have included Ronnie Lott here, who started his career at CB (even making the pro bowl). Still, he'll likely be a lock in the safety category.

I voted Night Train and Deion, two absolutely different styles.

Yeah, I thought about including Lott. In the end because he might be known more for safety, I went ahead and saved him for that.

fantastic flying froggies
03-25-2004, 09:59 AM
FYI, two of those pic links don't work (Adderley and Blount)

Also, wouldn't it be better to make'em public polls ?

Otherwise, great idea !

AgPete
03-25-2004, 10:19 AM
FYI, two of those pic links don't work (Adderley and Blount)

Also, wouldn't it be better to make'me public polls ?

Otherwise, great idea !

Is anyone else having problems viewing Adderley and Blount? They're working on my browser. I'll find new pics if people can't see them. I'm thinking public polls might be a good choice for future positions too.

Noop
03-25-2004, 10:33 AM
Deion Sanders only he can shutdown and entire side of the other teams offense...

cthomer5000
03-25-2004, 10:40 AM
Deion Sanders only he can shutdown and entire side of the other teams offense...
unless they are running. Then he's chilling out of bounds while someone else takes care of business.

Noop
03-25-2004, 10:45 AM
unless they are running. Then he's chilling out of bounds while someone else takes care of business.
Nole envy...

Ben E Lou
03-25-2004, 10:46 AM
unless they are running. Then he's chilling out of bounds while someone else takes care of business.Give me a Deion any day of the week. Let the other 10 guys worry about the run. :p

cthomer5000
03-25-2004, 10:54 AM
Give me a Deion any day of the week. Let the other 10 guys worry about the run. :p
Hey, I voted for the guy. I can't deny he was an insanely good cover corner, and spectacular kick returner in his early days. The dude was a threat to go the distance any time he had the ball. Still, he was shall we say... lacking... in run support.

;)

AgPete
03-25-2004, 10:55 AM
Give me a Deion any day of the week. Let the other 10 guys worry about the run. :p

Exactly. Deion gets too much crap for his tackling. As a Cowboys fan, I'll also add that Deion makes for one of the most exciting punt returners you'll ever watch. :p

rkmsuf
03-25-2004, 10:59 AM
Where the heck is Otis Smith?

cthomer5000
03-25-2004, 11:05 AM
Where the heck is Otis Smith?
:D

He was named first-team by default, we're just voting for the #2 CB.

corbes
03-25-2004, 11:07 AM
Where the heck is Otis Smith?
He started a crouton outfit with Izel Jenkins. They called it...

General Mike
03-25-2004, 11:19 AM
Adderley
Green
Lane
Deion
Other - Rod Woodson

AgPete
03-25-2004, 02:46 PM
One last bump for the corners. The quarterbacks have a lot more votes. I'll post the starting QBs and CBs tomorrow when I put up two new polls for an offensive and defensive position.

Sharpieman
03-25-2004, 04:28 PM
I don't why so many people voted for Sanders, it must be the hype. There are 6 players up there who have more career INT's amd we all know how horrible Deion was at tackling...

Hurst2112
03-25-2004, 04:32 PM
The all time NFL team called and wondered why you didn't put their man, Rod Woodson on the ballot.

My write in is Rod Woodson.

BigJohn&TheLions
03-25-2004, 05:37 PM
Give me a Deion any day of the week. Let the other 10 guys worry about the run. :p
He left your Falcons asap...

QuikSand
03-25-2004, 05:54 PM
Rod Woodson is a pretty big omission... I only voted for four in my first ballot, but I think he'd make mine had I thought of him (which I confess I didn't).

Noop
03-25-2004, 06:03 PM
I don't why so many people voted for Sanders, it must be the hype. There are 6 players up there who have more career INT's amd we all know how horrible Deion was at tackling...INT dont mean anything... if they dont throw your way how can you get ints? Deion basically had the league in fear when he played they refused to throw his way... that my friend is not hype.

:)

noop

Ben E Lou
03-25-2004, 06:04 PM
I don't why so many people voted for Sanders, it must be the hype. There are 6 players up there who have more career INT's amd we all know how horrible Deion was at tackling...INT's aren't always the best measure of how a CB is doing. There were times that QB's wouldn't throw the ball anywhere near him. Hard to get a pick when that happens.

Ben E Lou
03-25-2004, 06:05 PM
Dang....Noop beat me to it.

John Galt
03-25-2004, 06:30 PM
You have to vote for Blount. They changed the rules because of him.

Hurst2112
03-25-2004, 10:05 PM
You have to vote for Blount. They changed the rules because of him.

That's why he was my first pick! ;)

AgPete
03-26-2004, 05:45 AM
Rod Woodson is a pretty big omission... I only voted for four in my first ballot, but I think he'd make mine had I thought of him (which I confess I didn't).

I agree Rod Woodson is a big omission. I thought more people would use the "other" option and write him in. I'll make it up to Steelers, Ravens and Raidahs fans and include him in the safeties since he didn't spend a long stint at the position and can play both. ;)

AgPete
03-26-2004, 05:47 AM
There's a tie between Willie Brown and Mike Haynes for the 5th corner. Raiders fans are going to have to kick one of them off. ;) Voting stays open for this.

AgPete
03-26-2004, 07:08 AM
Have a webpage set up now for the final team results.Click here for the FOFC All-Time NFL Team Page. (http://home.cfl.rr.com/wfldynasty/FOFCalltimeteam.htm)

fantastic flying froggies
03-26-2004, 07:14 AM
Have a webpage set up now for the final team results.Click here for the FOFC All-Time NFL Team Page. (http://home.cfl.rr.com/wfldynasty/FOFCalltimeteam.htm)
I think you've got your Solecismic logo backwards on that helmet... :p

fantastic flying froggies
03-26-2004, 07:15 AM
dola- btw, what's up with WFL ? It seems like you haven't updated your site for a while, am I wrong ?

AgPete
03-26-2004, 07:16 AM
I think you've got your Solecismic logo backwards on that helmet... :p

LOL You seen one S, you seen 'em all. :o I haven't gotten around to updating the WFL lately. I have the offseason updated for the next season but that's it.

RendeR
03-26-2004, 08:42 AM
I voted for three that were in the list and these two, not sure how they got left out:


Lester hayes : Oakland Raiders (this man made stickum illegal in the NFL)
Ken Riley : Cincinnati Bengals (One of the top 5 or 6 in interceptions)

wheels
03-26-2004, 09:07 AM
woodson

VPI97
03-26-2004, 10:20 AM
Other - Woodson

AgPete
03-26-2004, 10:52 AM
Voting has ended for cornerbacks. The corners were added to the FOFC all-time players webpage at http://home.cfl.rr.com/wfldynasty/FOFCalltimeteam.htm. Write-in totals were:

Rod Woodson 4
Lester Hayes 1
Ken Riley 1

Placings:
1st - Dick "Night Train" Lane
2nd - Darrell Green
3rd - Deion Sanders
4th - Mel Blount
5th - Mike Haynes
6th - Willie Brown
7th - Herb Adderley
8th - Mel Renfro, Lem Barney
10th - Rod Woodson
11th - Jimmy Johnson
12th - Lester Hayes, Ken Riley

FOFC ALL-TIME CORNERBACKS:

Starters: Dick "Night Train" Lane and Darrell Green
http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/PHOTOFILE/AAEA023.jpg
http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/nfl/2000/1001/photo/a_green_i.jpg

Nickelback: Deion Sanders
http://sportsmed.starwave.com/i/magazine/new/deion_sanders_a.jpg

Backup Corners, Dimebacks: Mel Blount and Mike Haynes
http://members.tripod.com/~nfl002/Blountpit.jpg
http://www.sportsattic.com/nflphoto/photos8/Haynes,Mike3.jpg