The FOFC All-Time NFL Team: Wide Receivers

[AgPete]

**** VOTING CLOSED ****

First off, if you haven't already, check out the new webpage which shows the all-time team thus far.Click here for the FOFC All-Time NFL Team Page. (http://home.cfl.rr.com/wfldynasty/FOFCalltimeteam.htm)

The NFL has an all-decade team. The NBA has an "official" list of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History. If there's enough interest, I thought we could create the FOFC All-Time NFL Team since football is what brought most people to this forum to begin with.

It works like this, I post a poll for each position, and classify players by their positions. Generally, all players will be listed by a position, not which side they play on or if they're strong side. FOFC voters pick enough players to fill a regular team. Check the link above to read previous results. If you do not agree with the nominees in the all-time position vote, please feel free to write-in your candidate. Some suggestions for other players are at the bottom of this thread.

FOFC selects:

3 Quarterbacks
4 Running backs
3 Tight Ends
5 Wide Receivers
4 Offensive Tackles
4 Offensive Guards
2 Centers
4 Defensive Ends
4 Defensive Tackles
5 Linebackers
4 Safeties
5 Cornerbacks
1 Kicker and Punter

Previous Results:

Quarterbacks finished 3/26/04. (Click above link to see results.)
Cornerback voting still in progress. LINK: http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showthread.php?t=23510

If I make any mistakes on the stats, let me know. Thanks.

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THE FOFC ALL-TIME WIDE RECEIVERS - Select 5 players in the poll

LANCE ALWORTH (1962-1972)
http://www.hickoksports.com/images/lance_alworth.jpg
Receptions: 542
Receiving Yards: 10,266
Receiving Touchdowns: 85
Pro Bowls: 7

FRED BILETNIKOFF (1965-1978)
http://www.sportsattic.com/nflphoto/photos3/Biletnikoff,Fred2.jpg
Receptions: 589
Receiving Yards: 8,974
Receiving Touchdowns: 76
Pro Bowls: 6

CRIS CARTER (1987-2002)
http://www.cnnsi.com/fantasy/football/news/2002/02/18/back_page/t1_carter_all.jpg
Receptions: 1,101
Receiving Yards: 13,899
Receiving Touchdowns: 130
Pro Bowls: 8

DON HUTSON (1935-1945)
http://www.sportsattic.com/nflphoto/photos4/Hutson,Don4.jpg
Receptions: 488
Receiving Yards: 7,991
Receiving Touchdowns: 99
Pro Bowls: Didn't play in modern NFL era.

ELROY HIRSCH (1949-1957)
http://www.ramsusa.com/16bb.jpg
Receptions: 343
Receiving Yards: 6,299
Receiving Touchdowns: 53
Pro Bowls: 3

CHARLIE JOINER (1969-1986)
http://www.wrightplaque.com/images/football/photos/chargers/charlie_joiner_01.jpg
Receptions: 750
Receiving Yards: 12,146
Receiving Touchdowns: 65
Pro Bowls: 3

STEVE LARGENT (1976-1989)
http://images.usatoday.com/news/gallery/2003/celebritypols/largent.jpg
Receptions: 819
Receiving Yards: 13,089
Receiving Touchdowns: 100
Pro Bowls: 7

JAMES LOFTON (1978-1993)
http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/nfl/2003/0125/photo/s_lofton_i.jpg
Receptions: 764
Receiving Yards: 14,004
Receiving Touchdowns: 75
Pro Bowls: 8

JERRY RICE (1985-present)
http://www.profootballhof.com/photos/1985rice.jpg
Receptions: 1,519
Receiving Yards: 22,466
Receiving Touchdowns: 194
Pro Bowls: 13

CHARLEY TAYLOR (1964-1977)
http://www.sportsposterwarehouse.com/warehouse/charleytaylorpf-1.jpg
Receptions: 649
Receiving Yards: 9,110
Receiving Touchdowns: 79
Pro Bowls: 8

PAUL WARFIELD (1964-1977)
http://members.tripod.com/~nfl002/WarfieldCle_161x250.jpg
Receptions: 427
Receiving Yards: 8,565
Receiving Touchdowns: 85
Pro Bowls: 8

OTHER - After voting "Other" please reply in this thread and list your other choices. "Other" write-in votes will be tallied.
http://upliftdarace2.homestead.com/files/lynn_swann.jpg http://members.tripod.com/~nflpics1/IrvinDal_177x250.jpg http://www.autographsonline.com/Scans/monk20962.jpg
Some potential write-ins include:
Raymond Berry
Tim Brown
Henry Ellard
Tom Fears
Marvin Harrison
Bob Hayes
Michael Irvin
Dante Lavelli
Don Maynard
Tommy McDonald
Bobby Mitchell
Art Monk
Drew Pearson
Andre Reed
John Stalloworth
Lynn Swann

[AgPete]

I'm writing in 2 Cowboys who I think never got their due respect: Bob Hayes and Michael Irvin.

[RendeR]

I voted for Largent and Rice along with these write ins:

Issac Curtis
Art Monk
Andre Reed

[sachmo71]

2 Other votes:

Irvin
Swann

[MikeVic]

3 write-ins:

Lynn Swann
Marvin Harrison
John Stallworth

[Sun Tzu]

Rice
Alworth
Largent
Hutson
Taylor

[fantastic flying froggies]

Rice is #1 in receptions, #1 in receiving yards and #1 in receiving TDs... enough said.

2 write-ins:
Tim Brown
Marvin Harrison

I would have liked to include Swann for his 3 SBs, but not enough spots...

[Barkeep49]

I'd like to write-in Swann please

[AgPete]

Write-ins so far:

Lynn Swann 3
Marvin Harrison 2
Michael Irvin 2
Bob Hayes 1
Art Monk 1
John Stallworth 1
Andre Reed 1
Isaac Curtis 1
Tim Brown 1

[Sublime]

Other

Irvin

[VPI97]

Other - Sterling Sharpe

[mckerney]

Other:

Randy Moss: Only player to average 100 yards and a TD over a 16 game season.

[cthomer5000]

There is no reason Rice shouldn't be a unanimous selection, IMHO.

[AgPete]

I think he may be the only unanimous selection. I don't think Joe Montana received enough votes to equal the total amount of voters in the QB poll. I can't think of anyone other than Jerry Rice who exemplifies a position. Maybe Walter Payton? Reggie White? Lawrence Taylor? Anthony Munoz?

[cthomer5000]

I think he may be the only unanimous selection. I don't think Joe Montana received enough votes to equal the total amount of voters in the QB poll. I can't think of anyone other than Jerry Rice who exemplifies a position. Maybe Walter Payton? Reggie White? Lawrence Taylor? Anthony Munoz?
I think at every other position there can be a legitemate discussion, but Jerry Rice is so insanely superior to those who came before him that there is no discussion, he absolutely towers over othe WR's in every statistical category. Add in the fact that he's been a class act, and been to the Super Bowl 5 times - and always been a postseason performer... and it's obvious there's no reason not to say he's the best.

[Sun Tzu]

Agreed with homer5000. Simply put Jerry Rice is the greatest combination of talent, work ethic, and longevity the NFL has ever seen. Anybody who takes part in this poll and doesn't vote for Rice has either been living under a rock for the past 20 years, or holds a serious, <i>serious</i> grudge against players from Mississippi Valley State.

[cthomer5000]

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width=772 border=0><TBODY><TR align=middle bgColor=#666666><TD colSpan=4> </TD><TD class=statshead colSpan=5>-- RECEIVING --</TD><TD class=statshead colSpan=5>-- RUSHING --</TD><TD class=statshead colSpan=2>-- FUMBLES --</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#aaaaa4><TD align=left>YEAR</TD><TD>TEAM</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>GS</TD><TD>REC</TD><TD>YDS</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>LNG</TD><TD>TD</TD><TD>ATT</TD><TD>YDS</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>LNG</TD><TD>TD</TD><TD>FUM</TD><TD>LST</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>1985</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>49</TD><TD>927</TD><TD>18.9</TD><TD>66</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>26</TD><TD>4.3</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>1986</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>86</TD><TD>1570</TD><TD>18.3</TD><TD>66</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>72</TD><TD>7.2</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>1987</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>65</TD><TD>1078</TD><TD>16.6</TD><TD>57</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>51</TD><TD>6.4</TD><TD>17</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>1988</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>64</TD><TD>1306</TD><TD>20.4</TD><TD>96</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>107</TD><TD>8.2</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>1989</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>82</TD><TD>1483</TD><TD>18.1</TD><TD>68</TD><TD>17</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>33</TD><TD>6.6</TD><TD>17</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>1990</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>100</TD><TD>1502</TD><TD>15.0</TD><TD>64</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0.0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>1991</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>80</TD><TD>1206</TD><TD>15.1</TD><TD>73</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>2.0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>1992</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>84</TD><TD>1201</TD><TD>14.3</TD><TD>80</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>58</TD><TD>6.4</TD><TD>26</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>1993</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>98</TD><TD>1503</TD><TD>15.3</TD><TD>80</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>69</TD><TD>23.0</TD><TD>43</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>1994</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>112</TD><TD>1499</TD><TD>13.4</TD><TD>69</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>93</TD><TD>13.3</TD><TD>28</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>1995</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>122</TD><TD>1848</TD><TD>15.1</TD><TD>81</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>36</TD><TD>7.2</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>3</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>1996</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>108</TD><TD>1254</TD><TD>11.6</TD><TD>39</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>77</TD><TD>7.0</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>1997</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>78</TD><TD>11.1</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>-10</TD><TD>-10.0</TD><TD>-10</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>1998</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>82</TD><TD>1157</TD><TD>14.1</TD><TD>75</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>2</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>1999</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>67</TD><TD>830</TD><TD>12.4</TD><TD>62</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>6.5</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>2000</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>75</TD><TD>805</TD><TD>10.7</TD><TD>68</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>-2</TD><TD>-2.0</TD><TD>-2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>2</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>2001</TD><TD>OAK</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>83</TD><TD>1139</TD><TD>13.7</TD><TD>40</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>2002</TD><TD>OAK</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>92</TD><TD>1211</TD><TD>13.2</TD><TD>75</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>6.7</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>2003</TD><TD>OAK</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>63</TD><TD>869</TD><TD>13.8</TD><TD>47</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left colSpan=2>Total</TD><TD>286</TD><TD>270</TD><TD>1519</TD><TD>22466</TD><TD>14.8</TD><TD>96</TD><TD>194</TD><TD>87</TD><TD>645</TD><TD>7.4</TD><TD>43</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>10</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=772 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=10><SPACER width="10" type="block"></TD><TD>


Data Source: STATS, Inc. Copyright 2004 STATS, Inc. Commercial distribution without the express written consent of STATS is prohibited.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[cthomer5000]

Wow, this is going to be his 20th season, and he'll turn 42 by the midpoint of the season.

[Sun Tzu]

Homer see if you can post his post-season numbers too. I'm sure they are no less amazing.

[rkmsuf]

who knew he had 10 rushing tds.

[AgPete]

You know what's so amazing to me even as much as his receiving stats? The amount of 16 game seasons. It's incredible how he's managed to stay so healthy. As Michael Irvin once said, he's Jesus in cleats.

[AgPete]

dola,

Also coming back from that injury that probably would have caused about 99% of NFL players to retire at that age.

[cthomer5000]

argh. can't get the formatting right.

postseason stats:
http://pro-football-reference.com/players/RiceJe00.htm

[JAG]

So in 3 Super Bowls, he averaged 170 yards and 2 TD's. Not bad.

[judicial clerk]

AgPete, nice list of players who define their position. You could probably add Ronnie Lott, John Hannah, and Ray Lewis to that list.

My vote is the same as Sun Tzu's.

[rkmsuf]

AgPete, nice list of players who define their position. You could probably add Ronnie Lott, John Hannah, and Ray Lewis to that list.

My vote is the same as Sun Tzu's.

get off the drugs son...

[HornedFrog Purple]

Write in: Irvin and Tim Brown

[Fonzie]

I'm glad to see he's in 3rd place, but Don Hutson really shouldn't be such a distant 3rd place given his contribution to the position. In my opinion, of course.

[QuikSand]

I'm fascinated by:

(1) The number and variety of write-ins for this position. I guess listing five gives you a lot of latitude... but I'm really surprised at how many players are being named.

(2) The amount of love veing given to Steve Largent. Good heavens - more votes than Don Hutson? Twice as many as Charlie Joiner? Oh, dear.

[The_herd]

Rice
Hutson
Taylor
Largent
Carter

[Kodos]

I think there's probably some age bias here. I know that I only voted for players who I remember seeing play. (In this case, I voted for Rice and Largent.)

[Vince]

Rice
Hutson

Write-ins -
Swann
Harrison
Tim Brown

And I think Anthony Munoz is the only guy who comes close to Rice as exemplary of his position. After him, Montana and Jim Brown are probably the other two that are 'tops,' but even then there is tremendous dispute over who the top players at their position are.

[Vince]

Dola - I also agree with Quik...what's with the Steve Largent votes? He's good...but he's not that good.

[Fonzie]

Dola - I also agree with Quik...what's with the Steve Largent votes? He's good...but he's not that good.

I tend to agree that Steve is getting a bit too much love in this poll, but in his defense he held several major receiving records at the time of his retirement. Certainly one of the all-time bests, but I'd rank Hutson above him.

[Fonzie]

Dola - and Joiner, too.

[WSUCougar]

I watched Largent every Sunday for a good chunk of his career, and (IMO) he had few peers. Beyond the stats - which are pretty darn impeccable - he was simply a wizard at running patterns. Zorn or Krieg would go back to pass, move in the pocket, throw deep downfield, and there'd be Largent on a post or corner or deep out with the cornerback completely out of the picture.

So I have no issue with his votes (but voted for Rice and Hutson, too).

[ntndeacon]

other-- Art Monk

[Noop]

Fred Biletnikoff what he doesn't get Nole luv?

[vtbub]

Monk

[Eaglesfan27]

Other - Andre Reed

[AgPete]

Well it finally happened. Someone didn't vote for Jerry Rice.

[AgPete]

Write-ins so far:

Michael Irvin 4
Lynn Swann 4
Tim Brown 3
Marvin Harrison 3
Art Monk 3
Andre Reed 2
Bob Hayes 1
John Stallworth 1
Isaac Curtis 1
Sterling Sharpe 1
Randy Moss 1

[Ragone]

Write in..

Otis Taylor

[General Mike]

Biletnikoff
Largent
Lofton
Rice
Other - Sterling Sharpe

[oykib]

Sterling Sharpe is my other.

Jerry Rice
Lance Alworth
Don Hutson
Steve Largent

[oykib]

Dola--

So far three people have made a list of the five greatest recievers in NFL history and managed to not include Rice. Maybe they're members of the Pro Football Writer's Association.

[Sun Tzu]

Maybe they're members of the Pro Football Writer's Association.

Or the Cincinnati Bengals.

[AgPete]

Voting is closed. The FOFC All-Time NFL Team has been updated. Click here for the updated team page. (http://home.cfl.rr.com/wfldynasty/FOFCalltimeteam.htm)

Write-in totals:
Michael Irvin 4
Lynn Swann 4
Tim Brown 3
Marvin Harrison 3
Sterling Sharpe 3
Art Monk 3
Andre Reed 2
Bob Hayes 1
John Stallworth 1
Isaac Curtis 1
Randy Moss 1
Otis Taylor 1

FINAL PLACING:

1st - Jerry Rice
2nd - Steve Largent
3rd - Don Hutson
4th - Cris Carter
5th - Lance Alworth
6th - Fred Biletnikoff, Charlie Joiner
8th - James Lofton, Paul Warfield
10th - Charley Taylor
11th - Michael Irvin, Lynn Swann
13th - Elroy "Crazy Legs" Hirsch, Tim Brown, Marvin Harrison, Sterling Sharpe, Art Monk
18th - Andre Reed
19th - Bob Hayes, John Stallworth, Isaac Curtis, Randy Moss, Otis Taylor

FOFC ALL-TIME NFL TEAM WIDE RECEIVERS

Starters: Jerry Rice and Steve Largent
http://www.profootballhof.com/photos/1985rice.jpg
http://images.usatoday.com/news/gallery/2003/celebritypols/largent.jpg

Slot Receivers: Don Hutson, Cris Carter and Lance Alworth
http://www.sportsattic.com/nflphoto/photos4/Hutson,Don4.jpg
http://www.cnnsi.com/fantasy/football/news/2002/02/18/back_page/t1_carter_all.jpg
http://www.hickoksports.com/images/lance_alworth.jpg

Next up..... the big guys, the defensive and offensive tackles.

[fantastic flying froggies]

Is Don Hutson in any way related to Dean Houston ? :D