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druez
07-30-2004, 03:45 PM
Get the muslims to call a Jihad.

Get the christians to call a crusade.

Let them both cancel / wipe each other out.

Then the pagans and atheists i.e. (the intelligent free thinkers in life) can live in peace and harmony and have all the oil to ourselves.

SirFozzie
07-30-2004, 03:47 PM
Jason, I know I called a truce with you..

but..

Why don't you insult the Jewish faith, and make sure you get EVERYBODY mad at you?

Not cool.

Qwikshot
07-30-2004, 03:48 PM
Ah, God isn't the answer, atheists are!

druez
07-30-2004, 03:49 PM
Jason, I know I called a truce with you..

but..

Why don't you insult the Jewish faith, and make sure you get EVERYBODY mad at you?

Not cool.

I didn't insult any faith. I just simply used terms that are part of those individual religions that deal with punishing heathens and reclaiming the holy lands or holy wars....

Qwikshot
07-30-2004, 03:52 PM
I didn't insult any faith. I just simply used terms that are part of those individual religions that deal with punishing heathens and reclaiming the holy lands or holy wars....
Friday is a slow day.

Maple Leafs
07-30-2004, 03:54 PM
Druez, it's a nice effort but your timing is off. It's a Friday afternoon in summer. People will be heading outside for the weekend. Not exactly prime time for this sort of thing.

Next time, try posting your wisdom around 10 a.m. on a Tuesday. A few well-timed bumps and you've got most of the week for everyone to get offended and fired up and start a big flamewar. You know, while you sit in front of your screen clicking "refresh" with a big smile and your hand down your pants.

Just some advice.

SirFozzie
07-30-2004, 03:54 PM
No, you just stated that if you were Catholic or Muslim, you were neither a free-thinker, nor intelligent.

druez
07-30-2004, 03:54 PM
Friday is a slow day.

aye it is and I'm trying to kill the last hour and a half of work....

SirFozzie
07-30-2004, 03:55 PM
Druez, it's a nice effort but your timing is off. It's a Friday afternoon in summer. People will be heading outside for the weekend. Not exactly prime time for this sort of thing.

Next time, try posting your wisdom around 10 a.m. on a Tuesday. A few well-timed bumps and you've got most of the week for everyone to get offended and fired up and start a big flamewar. You know, while you sit in front of your screen clicking "refresh" with a big smile and your hand down your pants.

Just some advice.

Damnit. Are you reading my mind again?

(puts on tinfoil hat)

druez
07-30-2004, 03:57 PM
No, you just stated that if you were Catholic or Muslim, you were neither a free-thinker, nor intelligent.

Not catholic, christians in general. What I actually said though was the pagans and atheists are the intellegent and free thinkers in life. That isn't saying that muslims or christians aren't intellegent or free thinkers.

I believe there are many intelligent christians and muslims, but then they aren't free thinkers. I also believe there are many christians and muslims that are free thinkers, but aren't intelligent.

SirFozzie
07-30-2004, 04:00 PM
Let's try this again, druez..

can you try that again, WITHOUT contradicting yourself within 10 words?

Ksyrup
07-30-2004, 04:06 PM
It's been a couple of months since the computer game review fiasco threads, and I desperately need more attention
At least you're being honest now.

SirFozzie
07-30-2004, 04:07 PM
I don't think this thread has turned out the way he expected it.

druez
07-30-2004, 04:11 PM
Let's try this again, druez..

can you try that again, WITHOUT contradicting yourself within 10 words?

Ok here is the problem. If you are intellegent and still believe in christianity or muslismism you can't be a free thinker.

If you are a free thinker but believe in christianity or muslimism then obviously you can't be intelligent to believe that the crusades and jihad are good things that god would of wanted of his people.

EagleFan
07-30-2004, 04:11 PM
Get the muslims to call a Jihad.

Get the christians to call a crusade.

Let them both cancel / wipe each other out.

Then the pagans and atheists i.e. (the intelligent free thinkers in life) can live in peace and harmony and have all the oil to ourselves.


:rolleyes:

Warhammer
07-30-2004, 04:12 PM
Interesting, if you are a christian or muslim you cannot be an intelligent free thinker! :rolleyes:

GrantDawg
07-30-2004, 04:12 PM
I know pagans and athiest who are neither intellegent or freethinkers. Discuss.

druez
07-30-2004, 04:14 PM
Interesting, if you are a christian or muslim you cannot be an intelligent free thinker! :rolleyes:


Now you are grasping the theory. You can be one or the other, but not both....

The_herd
07-30-2004, 04:14 PM
While we're at it, lets take out everyone that starts a thread on a Text Sim message board dealing with religion.

druez
07-30-2004, 04:17 PM
I want to be like Druez, hence the reason I worship him.

Sorry Ksyrup there can be only one

Tom E
07-30-2004, 04:17 PM
Smoke another joint and go hug your pet tree...

druez
07-30-2004, 04:18 PM
While we're at it, lets take out everyone that starts a thread on a Text Sim message board dealing with religion.

Yeah because all we ever do here is talk about text sims right?

sabotai
07-30-2004, 04:18 PM
I don't have a pet tree, but I'll take the joint.

Ksyrup
07-30-2004, 04:19 PM
Sorry Ksyrup there can be only one
Lying, desperate-for-attention, hate-monger?

You're right, I see that job is taken.

The_herd
07-30-2004, 04:21 PM
Yeah because all we ever do here is talk about text sims right?

And all atheists are intelligent free thinkers?

I just figured I'd match you on unintelligent comments.

Castlerock
07-30-2004, 04:23 PM
Don't feed the troll.

SlapBone
07-30-2004, 04:24 PM
Druez works here in my office (8 feet from me) and I have to put up with this bullshit all day long. Interestingly enough he thinks this shit is real:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/12/captain_cyborg_conference/

Guess thats what he means by free-thinker.

Edited spelling

druez
07-30-2004, 04:26 PM
And all atheists are intelligent free thinkers?

I just figured I'd match you on unintelligent comments.

No, but they have the ability to be both intelligent and free thinkers at the same time.

There are many atheists that are unintelligent and aren't free thinkers, but that isn't the point. The point is only atheists have the ability to be both at the same time.

Lets take my good friend Slapbone "we share an office at work" He is a devout christian. He is very intelligent but is not a free thinker. In his momments where he becomes a free thinker, his blind faith over-rides his intelligence.

Ksyrup
07-30-2004, 04:26 PM
Druez works here in my office (8 feet from me)
I hope you work at ground level and are looking down.

The_herd
07-30-2004, 04:27 PM
The point is only atheists have the ability to be both at the same time.



May God bless you for helping me see the light.

druez
07-30-2004, 04:28 PM
Lying, desperate-for-attention, hate-monger?

You're right, I see that job is taken.

How about bored on a friday at work. Desperate for attention on a message board? Naaa don't think so.... Its a message board where I kill time.

Hate-monger? Now that is funny..... When was the last time an atheist declared a jihad or a crusade on another religion?

druez
07-30-2004, 04:29 PM
May God bless you for helping me see the light.

You are welcome my child.

SirFozzie
07-30-2004, 04:29 PM
Hmm.. the Pledge of Alleigance Brouhaha?

Slapbone, my condolences.

Ksyrup
07-30-2004, 04:29 PM
Hate-monger? Now that is funny..... When was the last time an atheist declared a jihad or a crusade on another religion?

Let them both cancel / wipe each other out.
About 45 minutes ago.

SFL Cat
07-30-2004, 04:32 PM
Ok here is the problem. If you are intellegent and still believe in christianity or muslismism you can't be a free thinker.

And if you are a pagan who worships elemental forces of nature or an athiest who doesn't really believe in anything supernatural, you're an empty thinker.

Might as well really get this thing rolling. :rolleyes:

druez
07-30-2004, 04:33 PM
Do you watch the news or keep up on current events? The terror cells in the area have called a Jihad against us. A general in our military basically called this a holy war. If you can't see that this is slowly turning into a holy war you are kidding yourselves......

I find it INCREDIBLE that people can't look at christianity over the last 2000 years and see all the wars fought in its name. The same can be said of the muslims or just about any other religion you can pick....

The_herd
07-30-2004, 04:33 PM
I think we all think too much.

SlapBone
07-30-2004, 04:33 PM
Hmm.. the Pledge of Alleigance Brouhaha?

Slapbone, my condolences.


Yea, that why its been relatively silent lately. I let him out from under my desk and look what he does.

Next stop is surely the whole Yankee/South diatribe he likes to go off on.

Ksyrup
07-30-2004, 04:34 PM
I think we all think too much.
Except one of us.

druez
07-30-2004, 04:34 PM
Yea, that why its been relatively silent lately. I let him out from under my desk and look what he does.

Next stop is surely the whole Yankee/South diatribe he likes to go off on.

LOL

Warhammer
07-30-2004, 04:35 PM
And all atheists are intelligent free thinkers?

Isn't this the atheist corrollary to Druez's Law?

druez
07-30-2004, 04:36 PM
Druez, it's a nice effort but your timing is off. It's a Friday afternoon in summer. People will be heading outside for the weekend. Not exactly prime time for this sort of thing.

Next time, try posting your wisdom around 10 a.m. on a Tuesday. A few well-timed bumps and you've got most of the week for everyone to get offended and fired up and start a big flamewar. You know, while you sit in front of your screen clicking "refresh" with a big smile and your hand down your pants.

Just some advice.


Thanks for the advice. You were pretty much 100% on target with this, except for the hands down the pants thing. Thats slapbones job because in case you haven't figured it out yet he is my bitch.

Warhammer
07-30-2004, 04:41 PM
You know what really cracks me up is when people say they believe in a single supreme being, but it is not God. Isn't that the definition of God?

SlapBone
07-30-2004, 04:41 PM
42 posts in an hour. If there is one thing we count on Druez for, it's post count.

In case no one has noticed, I am really trying to hijack this thread without subtracting from it comedic value. The first post by Maple Leaf is probably the funniest.

SunDancer
07-30-2004, 05:03 PM
And if you are a pagan who worships elemental forces of nature or an athiest who doesn't really believe in anything supernatural, you're an empty thinker.

Might as well really get this thing rolling. :rolleyes:


You were thinking what I was thinking. So if athesist have no beliefs, then how are they free thinkers if they only think they are the only thing in existence? So if attacking the Muslims and Christians, aren't you declaring a "holy war" on those faiths?

Desnudo
07-30-2004, 05:06 PM
Yea, that why its been relatively silent lately. I let him out from under my desk and look what he does.

Next stop is surely the whole Yankee/South diatribe he likes to go off on.

I think we can all safely agree that all Yankees must die. So he has a point there (we are talking about the baseball team right?)

JeeberD
07-30-2004, 05:07 PM
I thought druez's solution was going to be this...



http://www.matthawkins.co.uk/guts-se/graphics/end_credits/bomb.jpg

Franklinnoble
07-30-2004, 05:09 PM
Hmm... I used to be an atheist, and it was my intelligent free-thinking that led me to the conclusion that there is indeed a God.

Learning to humble yourself before Him doesn't diminish your intelligence or free will at all.

SlapBone
07-30-2004, 05:10 PM
I thought druez's solution was going to be this...



http://www.matthawkins.co.uk/guts-se/graphics/end_credits/bomb.jpg


Done Deal. Just put Druez in a room with "The Button" with a sign on it that says "Do not push this button". I think it's safe to assume that nuclear holocaust would follow.

druez
07-30-2004, 05:11 PM
You were thinking what I was thinking. So if athesist have no beliefs, then how are they free thinkers if they only think they are the only thing in existence? So if attacking the Muslims and Christians, aren't you declaring a "holy war" on those faiths?

Actually athesists do have beliefs. They just don't believe there is some god listening or sitting in judgement of us. Nor do they think a god commands us to goto war against all the infidels or do we believe that we need to reclaim a holy land.



http://www.mwillett.org/atheism/atheism1.htm

good page if you are interested.....

SlapBone
07-30-2004, 05:15 PM
Actually athesists do have beliefs. They just don't believe there is some god listening or sitting in judgement of us. Nor do they think a god commands us to goto war against all the infidels or do we believe that we need to reclaim a holy land.
On a more serious note wouldn't this HAVE to be the cornerstone of the "Atheist Faith". I mean, the first thing that an atheiest would have to contend with is that there is possibly a God sitting in judgement. Hell, This is what makes atheism so worth-while right?

Ben E Lou
07-30-2004, 05:21 PM
Dang, Jason. I think you just became the first person to draw my attention to the very thread that got himself suspended by reporting a post to me from that thread. If you'd not alerted me to your trolling yourself, you might have gotten away with it. See ya next Friday! :p

This is an easy one, since he pretty much admitted to trolling right in the thread...

Franklinnoble
07-30-2004, 05:26 PM
You should have banned him until Tuesday at 10 am...

SlapBone
07-30-2004, 05:27 PM
See ya next Friday! :p



Can you come to Texas and ban him from my office? :)

JonInMiddleGA
07-30-2004, 05:30 PM
Can you come to Texas and ban him from my office? :)

Methinks you're setting your sights too low ... if you're gonna ask anyway, why not go for the whole state?
;)

SirFozzie
07-30-2004, 05:44 PM
Dang, Jason. I think you just became the first person to draw my attention to the very thread that got himself suspended by reporting a post to me from that thread. If you'd not alerted me to your trolling yourself, you might have gotten away with it. See ya next Friday! :p

This is an easy one, since he pretty much admitted to trolling right in the thread...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

He got penalty Boxed.. for a post he reported?

That's funny shit :D

(now granted, it wasn't his post.. but I think it's major style points to get suspended by his own tactics :D)

SlapBone
07-30-2004, 05:47 PM
Methinks you're setting your sights too low ... if you're gonna ask anyway, why not go for the whole state?
;)


Ummm... he's gone now. You baiting me? :)

EagleFan
07-30-2004, 05:51 PM
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

He got penalty Boxed.. for a post he reported?

That's funny shit :D

(now granted, it wasn't his post.. but I think it's major style points to get suspended by his own tactics :D)

lol :D

Kind of blows a hole in his theory of "intelligent people like himself".

The_herd
07-30-2004, 05:55 PM
Why do we hold the intelligent, free thinkers down?

Noop
07-30-2004, 05:57 PM
It is because of religion the twin towers fell down. It is because of religion people are losing their lives in the middle east. It is because of religion alot of the worst things on earth are done. Get the theme? People would kill, riot and other wise go crazy for religion. But they won't help a fellow human being in the name of religion... In conclusion religion = seems to serve a mostly evil purpose.

*No offense... just my point of view*

EagleFan
07-30-2004, 06:03 PM
That's the biggest flaming pile of horse crap that I've read since druez's initial post.

Replace religion with "Islamic fanatics" and it makes a little more sense.


It's because of something being MASKED AS RELIGION.


It was because of religion that I was aided by two different churches when I was havnig trouble finding work. It was because of religion that this country was formed. It was because of religion that we have numerous charities helping under-priviledged.

Try getting your head out of your ass before you say something so stupid.

Qwikshot
07-30-2004, 06:03 PM
It is because of religion the twin towers fell down. It is because of religion people are losing their lives in the middle east. It is because of religion alot of the worst things on earth are done. Get the theme? People would kill, riot and other wise go crazy for religion. But they won't help a fellow human being in the name of religion... In conclusion religion = seems to serve a mostly evil purpose.

*No offense... just my point of view*
Partially true, partially wrong, it is oil and influence of power that is also the culprit. Bin Laden wants Saudi Arabia, why?, because it has the oil.

And secondly you can get rid of religion but it won't stop violence, people will replace religion with something else, like patriotism, nationalism, communism, facism, consumerism...etc.

Noop
07-30-2004, 06:09 PM
That's the biggest flaming pile of horse crap that I've read since druez's initial post.

Replace religion with "Islamic fanatics" and it makes a little more sense.


It's because of something being MASKED AS RELIGION.


It was because of religion that I was aided by two different churches when I was havnig trouble finding work. It was because of religion that this country was formed. It was because of religion that we have numerous charities helping under-priviledged.

Try getting your head out of your ass before you say something so stupid.
So my opinion is stupid? Fine I can and will accept that. Religion is not masked at all we can go back to something such as slavery when the slave owners were supposed bible lovers. Again I respect your view without trying to attack you in anyway I would atleast like the same.

Qwikshot - I don't mean to do away with religion that is not my intent. Religion can help people get thru life for this I am glad it is here because it gives hope to those without it. However, religion has shown that it can rear its ugly head.

Franklinnoble
07-30-2004, 06:10 PM
Just because men have often committed gross atrocities under the false pretense of divine motivation does not make religion bad.

Although I'd prefer to call myself spiritual, and not religious... I'm simply a non-denominational Christian who considers the Lord his only authority, not some man-made institution.

randal7
07-30-2004, 09:53 PM
It is because of religion the twin towers fell down. It is because of religion people are losing their lives in the middle east. It is because of religion alot of the worst things on earth are done. Get the theme? People would kill, riot and other wise go crazy for religion. But they won't help a fellow human being in the name of religion... In conclusion religion = seems to serve a mostly evil purpose.

I don't know if you mean this the way I read it, but I firmly agree (except change the last sentence to "...seems to OFTEN serve..."). Religion is not the same as truly serving God. Religion divides us into groups bickering about interpretations when we should all consider ourselves part of the body of Christ. Many devoutly religious people would not know Jesus if he sat down beside them, and various religious beliefs have done great harm to Jesus' message over the years. Unfortunately, people tend to confuse what one particular religion believes with what Jesus himself says, and to paint all of Christianity with that brush.

Leonidas
07-30-2004, 09:58 PM
It is because of religion the twin towers fell down. It is because of religion people are losing their lives in the middle east. It is because of religion alot of the worst things on earth are done. Get the theme? People would kill, riot and other wise go crazy for religion. But they won't help a fellow human being in the name of religion... In conclusion religion = seems to serve a mostly evil purpose.

*No offense... just my point of view*

If by religion you really mean a belief system wildly manipulated by a certain minority to achieve their own hidden agendas (usually to gain power, influence, or mainly financial advantage) using God as a recruitment tool, then I can probably agree with you.

pennywisesb
07-30-2004, 10:17 PM
If you are a free thinker but believe in christianity or muslimism then obviously you can't be intelligent to believe that the crusades and jihad are good things that god would of wanted of his people.

Did anyone else find it interesting that a guy who thinks of himself as intelligent and a free thinker would refer to Islam as Muslimism? Oh Druez, you are too cute. :rolleyes: Sorry, I obviously got into this thread alittle late.

SlapBone
07-31-2004, 01:27 AM
I'm simply a non-denominational Christian.

Like those people in Florida who stick themselves to the floor and bark like dogs non-denominational?

Noop
07-31-2004, 10:56 AM
If by religion you really mean a belief system wildly manipulated by a certain minority to achieve their own hidden agendas (usually to gain power, influence, or mainly financial advantage) using God as a recruitment tool, then I can probably agree with you.
That is my point. Religion is not used as a way of serving God but their own agendas, and this has grown over the years to the point atleast in my opinion to make religion null invoid. I personally believe in God but religion that claim to love and serve got seem to be demonic in nature. Just my opinion....

PsychoCop
07-31-2004, 11:47 AM
I think there is a big difference between Religion and Faith. Religion, being as Leonidas explained, with Faith being a deep personal belief that there is someone... or something governing everything. Doesn't matter if you're an aethist or a christian or a muslim... everyone has Faith. Faith in a supreme being... or faith in a specific set of physics that define our existence.

Religion has, and I probably think will always be used as a manupulatory tool.

Jihads and Crusades are called forth by Religious leaders, usually to forward a personal cause completely unrelated to the said religion... it is Religious fanaticism by the believers of said religions that fuels these Jihads and Crusades.

Seriously, when was the last time a Crusade was ever called? It's because people aren't the sheep they were back in the middle-ages.

As for Jihads... who calls Jihads? Religious Fanatics and Extremists. As a majority, most Moslems would rather have peace.

Crusades and Jihads, IMHO, have always been used as a tool... to serve a purely humane purpose and not a divine one... and to actually presume that Christians and Moslems are not free-thinkers nor intelligent... is absolutely absurd.

Remember, the foundations of the United States of America, and the freedom that it supposedly believes in and protects were built on mostly Christian values.