First Ever College Football VIB Rankings Released (Grey Dog)

[Northwood_DK]

From the Grey Dog web page

http://www.greydogsoftware.com/news.php?id=125

November 8, 2004 - The College Football VIB Rankings are an objective measure of the relative strength of College Football teams. The rankings are a personal project of Scott Vibert and will be updated once weekly through the rest of the college football season.

[Icy]

Do i smell Total College Football? :)

[FBPro]

Sounds good to me.

[Noop]

This poll is bunk. Florida State way to high and so is Virgina...Wisconsin should be alot higher on the list.

[Blackadar]

Yea, those ranking look WAY off.

When you have a 2 loss FL St. team in front of an undefeated Wisconsin, something is wrong.

[ScottVib]

Yea, those ranking look WAY off.

When you have a 2 loss FL St. team in front of an undefeated Wisconsin, something is wrong.
I would agree... except that's just the way the equations came out, (I'm still tweaking them as I do it).. but everything I try keeps Wisconsin too low. The problem for Wisconsin is that the Big Ten isn't looking strong this year, and their performance relative to the strength of schedule is good, but for whatever reason, not good enough to get the equations to come out with them higher. (I do expect that to change in the coming weeks)

For what its worth Wisconsin's computer average in the BCS rankings places them 9th... the 12th place in my rankings isn't that far off from what the consensus of the BCS computers is saying.

Before people read too much into it, it's something I do on my own time, as a personal interest type thing, I will undoubtedly continue tweaking it, but figured it was interesting enough to finally pull it out and really start tracking it.

Thanks for the feedback. :) (I'm just happy someone took the time to check them out)

[Blackadar]

Don't get me wrong - the attempt is admirable. Better than I could do, that's for sure.

[Gary Gorski]

Yeah until Wisconsin plays a real team like Michigan (too bad they don't) I call fraud and they should be ranked as low as Scott can rank them :)

[ScottVib]

Yeah until Wisconsin plays a real team like Michigan (too bad they don't) I call fraud and they should be ranked as low as Scott can rank them :)
Keep in mind they are still ahead of Michigan in my rankings :p

[John Galt]

I think Bowling Green over Iowa and LSU is a little odd (given that they are all 2 loss teams). And this was Bowling Green's schedule:

Sep 4 at Oklahoma L, 40-24
Sep 11 vs SE Missouri State W, 49-10
Sep 24 at Northern Illinois L, 34-17
Oct 2 at Temple W, 70-16
Oct 9 at Central Michigan W, 38-14
Oct 16 vs Ball State W, 51-13
Oct 23 at Ohio W, 41-16
Oct 30 vs Eastern Michigan W, 41-20
Nov 6 vs Western Michigan W, 52-0

I'm guessing point differential figures prominently in the ratings (and the OK loss counts a bit too).

[Arles]

Another thing is that this is simply a computer ranking. A "BCS" type system would also implement a few human polls which may help correct some of this - esp with Wisconsin.

[KWhit]

SEC only the 4th best conference? I'm definitely biased, but I think the consensus is that it's probably the toughest conference this year and the Big 12 is down.

[ScottVib]

SEC only the 4th best conference? I'm definitely biased, but I think the consensus is that it's probably the toughest conference this year and the Big 12 is down.
The SEC's top end is tough... but the bottom end is being dragged down by Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, and Mississippi; this counter balances the good that Auburn and Georgia are doing for their ranking.

In the Big XII's case while the Big XII north is weak, the teams aren't coming through as truly terrible, just mediocre, so they don't provide as much drag on the rankings of Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M.

FWIW the Sagarin ratings put the SEC 6th

[KWhit]

Yeah, I can understand that. It's so hard to compare conferences anyway since teams don't play enough quality games out of conference.

[JeeberD]

#27 UTEP

#20 UTEP

I like the new guys rankings better... ;)

[mckerney]

Yeah until Wisconsin plays a real team like Michigan (too bad they don't) I call fraud and they should be ranked as low as Scott can rank them :)

This is why it was a bad thing that more power was given to human polls in the BCS. In the case of the Big Ten, the computers seem to generally be getting it right.