Tampa Radio Station says Meyer to UF

[Breeze]

Jax Times Union also reporting this.

[moriarty]

Sounds like the better move. Alot more talent to start with on the Florida team than on the Notre Dame squad. Antoher blow to ND's rep. assuming they were interested.

Wonder if Meyer will coach the BCS game.

[Breeze]

initial reports are $2 million a year.

[VPI97]

Wow. Notre Dame insiders were saying Meyer was a done deal for then just yesterday.

[Cuckoo]

Good. Maybe they'll leave my boy Stoops alone now. :)

Seriously, I think this is a good move. Meyer's the best out there, and they needed to grab him before ND did.

[Warhammer]

If ND let go of Willingham to get Meyer they are going to be feeling like fools. I really wish they would get rid of Kevin White...

[mckerney]

Wow. Notre Dame insiders were saying Meyer was a done deal for then just yesterday.

Which kind of makes it all worthwhile. :)

[rkmsuf]

Urban?

Hometown:
Ashtabula, Ohio

this is clearly a misnomer.

[SunDancer]

I though Meyer was meeting with ND today and yesterday? If Meyer goes to Florida, won't the Gators have to pay (I know he can bolt to ND at no cost) to buyout his deal with Utah?

[WSUCougar]

Urban?

Hometown:
Ashtabula, Ohio

this is clearly a misnomer.
Well, The Sticks Meyer sounded a little too weird for them.

[Easy Mac]

Urban?

Hometown:
Ashtabula, Ohio

this is clearly a misnomer.
He was named after one of the Popes of a similar moniker.

[albionmoonlight]

I though Meyer was meeting with ND today and yesterday? If Meyer goes to Florida, won't the Gators have to pay (I know he can bolt to ND at no cost) to buyout his deal with Utah?
If so, I can't see Florida balking at the cost.

[WSUCougar]

He was named after one of the Popes of a similar moniker.
That's what his brother Pius keeps saying anyway.

[Ksyrup]

I can just picture yesterday's meeting...


Meyer: "Sorry I couldn't get here any faster, getting flights out of Gainesville is a bitch. Which reminds me, you guys didn't fire Ty and automatically assume I'd take the job did you? Because I'm headed to UF."

ND Morons: "Uhhhhh....no. No, we didn't. We, uh, we value your opinion as a ND supporter, and we were just wondering what you thought of some of the candidates on our list to replace Ty. *Makes erasing motion* Here, what do you think of some of these guys?"

[scooper]

This isn't a done deal. The sources quoted by the article are UF sources. Both side's sources are claiming UM. This is from WNDU's website:

"Meyer is also coveted by Florida. The Times-Union newspaper in Jacksonville reported today that Meyer has been offered the Gators job and is expected to accept but two sources very close to the search process say that is not true and they fully expect Meyer to take the Notre Dame job if it's offered or if it already has been offered."

I'm not saying he won't end up at Florida, but until there is a press conference at either school, I wouldn't bet on anything.

[rkmsuf]

Get that boy over to the Mons Venus and wrap this puppy up.

[Ksyrup]

Well, usually, we all *know* well in advance of a press conference, but I agree that it's probably not a done deal from either side. Still, ND has a lot to lose if they don't get him, and I, for one, would laugh my ass off if he went to UF - even if that meant UF would get better.

I just hope that when Bowden retires, someone worth while is out there, and we won't be in the position of having to settle for a retread of lesser candidate.

[scooper]

Still, ND has a lot to lose if they don't get him
Yes and no. My understanding is he's not the only guy they've talked to, but he's the only one that has been a public spectacle and he is probably the first choice.

Get that boy over to the Mons Venus and wrap this puppy up.
Heck, if that's what it takes, I'll take the job.

[Swaggs]

Hopefully he will go the press conference wearing a Notre Dame cap and then announce at the last second that he is choosing Florida and switch caps. :)

[Huckleberry]

Meyer is playing Notre Dame like a fiddle. Ditto Stoops and Oklahoma.

Meyer is using the ND opening for a fatter contract from Florida. Stoops is using the Florida opening for a fatter contract from Oklahoma. Meyer will almost certainly move to Florida and Stoops has no intention of leaving OU.

Stoops is interested in getting a big raise this year because he doesn't feel they will be able to do as well next season. The Florida job opening just made his job easier.

[scooper]

Meyer is using the ND opening for a fatter contract from Florida. Apparently so, as the UF deal is reported to be up to $1 million per year richer than ND's.

[scooper]

And from what I just heard, it worked. Possibly a presser this afternoon.

[Lathum]

I think it's a crappy move at the time. I know there is alot of money there and he needs to get to work at Florida, but such a big deal is being made of what Utah has accomplished this year and this completly takes away from that.

[DeToxRox]

Urban Meyer starts in the recreation of my two dads, starring Notre Dame and Flordia.

Notre Dame has to be Paul Reiser

[scooper]

I'm conceeding.

UM to UF.

I like the next rumored target, more than I would have liked Meyer, actually, but I think they have no prayer.

And I bet Kevin White loses his job this time.

[Desnudo]

That it just deserts.

[scooper]

More info: He really was ND's to lose and they lost him. Money was somewhat important, but ND also would not make a few exemptions on academic/recruiting issues.

[fflix]

who is the next rumored target?

I'm conceeding.

UM to UF.

I like the next rumored target, more than I would have liked Meyer, actually, but I think they have no prayer.

And I bet Kevin White loses his job this time.

[DeToxRox]

if i am notre dame i go for butch davis

[ISiddiqui]

They could try and make a play for Tedford, down at Cal.

[DeToxRox]

Norm Chow?

[scooper]

who is the next rumored target?
I'm not going to name that target because I think ND will fall on their face, but my money on the eventual hire is Hawkins at Boise St. No real info here, just a guess. I see him as kind of an Urban Meyer Light. Very Light.

[Cuckoo]

Norm Chow?

I'm betting Norm Chow doesn't leave USC. Just a guess, but he seems like a guy who enjoys being a coordinator more than he'd like to be a head coach. Who knows though.

[scooper]

They could try and make a play for Tedford, down at Cal.
The name's come up and I'd actually prefer him to Meyer, but with the lowball offer they gave Meyer, I think he's a pipe dream with his new extension at Cal.

I think they can still get a good coach, but it won't be a name that makes anybody go "wow. they are serious about this"

[rkmsuf]

Charlie Weiss

[CHEMICAL SOLDIER]

The name's come up and I'd actually prefer him to Meyer, but with the lowball offer they gave Meyer, I think he's a pipe dream with his new extension at Cal.

I think they can still get a good coach, but it won't be a name that makes anybody go "wow. they are serious about this"
Lou Holtz.

[scooper]

Charlie Weiss
It's being thrown around. He's an ND grad. But after the Bob Davie debacle, I think they need somebody with head coaching experience.

[MacroGuru]

I'm betting Norm Chow doesn't leave USC. Just a guess, but he seems like a guy who enjoys being a coordinator more than he'd like to be a head coach. Who knows though.
Norm is interviewing with Stanford within the week.

[DeToxRox]

Whats Rick Paulis doing these days

[rkmsuf]

It's being thrown around. He's an ND grad. But after the Bob Davie debacle, I think they need somebody with head coaching experience.


Doesn't mean they think that. Seems like they want an offensive mind.

[DeToxRox]

I actually think Gruden would be the best fit.

He just seems like he could be the ultimate recruiter.

[moriarty]

Gruden?

Edit - beat me to it.

[DeToxRox]

Jeebers here: Mike Price to ND

[scooper]

I actually think Gruden would be the best fit.

He just seems like he could be the ultimate recruiter.
In 2001, Gruden to ND was closer to reality than people think. It was real close. But that ship has sailed.

[Desnudo]

Doesn't mean they think that. Seems like they want an offensive mind.

I would imagine Weiss would prefer an NFL head job since he seems to pop-up on the short list.

[scooper]

Jeebers here: Mike Price to ND
The strippers in South Bend are too ugly.

[Cuckoo]

Norm is interviewing with Stanford within the week.

Yeah, I've heard that. I just think he may be one of the few who feel more comfortable as a coordinator. It may come down to the salary difference. Carroll would make sure USC made a competitive offer for a coordinator, but they wouldn't match the head coach money he'd get elsewhere.

Again, it's just a guess. It just seems to me like USC works so well with Carroll as the enthusiastic and charismatic head coach and Chow as the "brains behind the operation" as it were.

[moriarty]

I'm not going to name that target because I think ND will fall on their face, but my money on the eventual hire is Hawkins at Boise St. No real info here, just a guess. I see him as kind of an Urban Meyer Light. Very Light.

Wait a minute. If it's a 'rumoured' target, why can't you just name it?

ND already fell on their face a while ago.

[scooper]

Wait a minute. If it's a 'rumoured' target, why can't you just name it?

ND already fell on their face a while ago.
Because it's rumored. If he in fact becomes a target, you'll find out.

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm so happy that ND fell on its face, only because I think Ty deserved better from them.

[moriarty]

Because it's rumored. If he in fact becomes a target, you'll find out.

So if we hear any name in the next few weeks that isn't already mentioned, you'll claim you knew it all along?

I call BS.

[Kodos]

These last years have been a beautiful time to hate Notre Dame. :)

[rkmsuf]

I would imagine Weiss would prefer an NFL head job since he seems to pop-up on the short list.

Perhaps but ND is big dough and he has been repeated passed over in the NFL.

[scooper]

So if we hear any name in the next few weeks that isn't already mentioned, you'll claim you knew it all along?

I call BS.
I've made my prediction. Is that a big enough limb for you? Like I said, I don't even know if this guy is a target. It's a rumor I've heard and I'm not in the business of posting rumors.

[MacroGuru]

Alright, I am pretty much thinking this is a done deal as it is now being reported in the news around here.

You know the scary thing is, if Urban takes the 3 guys he brought with him, and BYU hires Whittingham, it is more than likely Utah will be without a coaching staff.

[MacroGuru]

DOLA

5 year 12 million versus what Notre Dame offered of 5 year 7.5

[Franklinnoble]

Alright, I am pretty much thinking this is a done deal as it is now being reported in the news around here.

You know the scary thing is, if Urban takes the 3 guys he brought with him, and BYU hires Whittingham, it is more than likely Utah will be without a coaching staff.

Butch Davis is available.

[scooper]

I'm so happy that ND fell on its face, only because I think Ty deserved better from them.You watch too much ESPN.


Notre Dame has more consensus top 25 starters than USC, ffice:smarttags" /><?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:place>Tennessee</ST1:place></st1:State> and <st1:State><ST1:place>Michigan</ST1:place></st1:State>. * Phil Steele

Only one Notre Dame recruiting class was ranked below consensus #7. That is Ty's latest class.*Phil Steele Notre Dame has 15 Parade and USA Today first or second team All-Americans, including linebacker, wide receiver, defensive back, and every position along the offensive and defensive lines.



ND/USC starters and how they were ranked at their position by a composite of the top 6 recruiting services leaving high school or JC.

OFFENSE

ND - SC
QB Quinn (12) - Leinart (9),
BACKS Walker (13)/Grant (25)/P-Neal (36) - White (7)/Bush (5)/Webb (253)
WR Stovall (4)/McKnight (9)/Holiday (8)/Samardzija (22) - Smith (3)/Buchanan (23)/McFay (76)/Jarrett (4)
TE Fasano (8) - Holmes (5)
OL Sullivan (3)/LeVoir (4)/Morton (14)/Harris (18)/Stevenson (19) - Lutui (4)/Matua (12)/Baker (15)/Kalil (34)/Drake (113)

DEFENSE DL Abiamiri (1)/Pauly (4)/Landri (5)/Tuck (16) - Cody (1)/Jackson (6)/Patterson (140)/Rucker (Unranked)
LB Goolsby (4)/Curry (25)/Hoyte (29) - Grootegood (3)/Santz (23)/Tatupu (Unranked)
CB Campbell (18)/Ellick (Unranked)/Jackson (69) - Wyatt (25)/Nunn (165)
S Zbikowski (9)/Burrell (21) - Bing (4)/Leach (29)ffice:office" /><O:p></O:p>

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If Urban Meyer loses more 20+ point games in three years than Davie and Faust had in 10 combined years

If Urban Meyer suffers the single worst stretch of games at ND over the course of two seasons

If Urban Meyer's best stretch immediately follows the previous coach followed by a huge dropoff from which they never recover.

If Urban Meyer does these things and refuses to make the changes required by the administration

If Urban Meyer brings in the worst cumulative recruiting classes ever

If Urban Meyer only signs three offensive linemen over the course of two seasons

If Urban Meyer blows big leads at home to multiple Big East teams and gets blown out on the road by a Big East team with a losing record

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<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->Ty wasn't going to win there.

But now I'm not convinced the ND administration will do what it takes to get someone who will.

ND still has the tools to win but I'm not convinced they will make that committment. ND had the money to outbid Florida, by far and the precedent had been set in the past to give in a bit to the academic concessions Meyer wanted.

[SunDancer]

I've made my prediction. Is that a big enough limb for you? Like I said, I don't even know if this guy is a target. It's a rumor I've heard and I'm not in the business of posting rumors.

I got to agree with the first person. You make it sound like your the insider at ND.

[scooper]

I got to agree with the first person. You make it sound like your the insider at ND.
I'm not an insider. Anything I post here comes from ND boards or chats on ND boards. There is sort of a courtesy granted to folks who post things in the chat I was in that what is said in chat stays in chat. If you want that information, go find it. It's out there. But like I said, I will not post anything that I deam to be nothing more than rumor at this point.

There is enough ND bashing around here for me to throw you guys a bone such as a pipe dream head coach.

[MacroGuru]

I'm not an insider. Anything I post here comes from ND boards or chats on ND boards. There is sort of a courtesy granted to folks who post things in the chat I was in that what is said in chat stays in chat. If you want that information, go find it. It's out there. But like I said, I will not post anything that I deam to be nothing more than rumor at this point.

There is enough ND bashing around here for me to throw you guys a bone such as a pipe dream head coach.
Wow! Here comes Gruden! :rolleyes: J/K :D

[scooper]

Wow! Here comes Gruden! :rolleyes: J/K :D
Heh Heh. I wish. That wasn't it.

[MacroGuru]

I actually see it now being Boise States head coach.

[moriarty]

Like I said, I don't even know if this guy is a target. It's a rumor I've heard and I'm not in the business of posting rumors.

So when you said in another thread "By the way, it's looking more and more like Urban's a slam dunk and could be as soon tomorrow. Suposedly, he's on campus right now." ... you were stating this from first hand knowledge and not a rumor? :confused:

[scooper]

So when you said in another thread "By the way, it's looking more and more like Urban's a slam dunk and could be as soon tomorrow. Suposedly, he's on campus right now." ... you were stating this from first hand knowledge and not a rumor? :confused:
I was wrong about being on ND's campus it was the other way around, but many news outlets were reporting the meeting and an expected signing. And the rumors of the expected signing were also sitting there on boards for all the world to see, not in private chats.

[GrantDawg]

So when you said in another thread "By the way, it's looking more and more like Urban's a slam dunk and could be as soon tomorrow. Suposedly, he's on campus right now." ... you were stating this from first hand knowledge and not a rumor? :confused:
Rumor is a rumor when he says it's a rumor. If what he says is fact doesn't turn out to be fact then it is because reality is wrong.

[scooper]

Rumor is a rumor when he says it's a rumor. If what he says is fact doesn't turn out to be fact then it is because reality is wrong.
Reality is wrong. Question everything. Oh, and buy lots of aluminum foil. We're going to need it.

[Klinglerware]

ND still has the tools to win but I'm not convinced they will make that committment. ND had the money to outbid Florida, by far and the precedent had been set in the past to give in a bit to the academic concessions Meyer wanted.

Yes, Notre Dame used to take a few chances on academically risky recruits but that was over a decade ago. I doubt they would start now. If they wouldn't give an inch on academics to their alleged number 1 candidate, why would they do it for anybody else? This issue probably played a big role in ND's embarrassment of a coaching search last time, when it seemed like nobody wanted to touch the ND job with a 10 foot pole.

As the cliche goes, recruiting is the lifeblood of a college athletics program. Yes, Notre Dame is perceived to be a glamor job, but I could see why a lot of these high profile candidates won't take it. There is an expectation at Notre Dame that the football team should perform at an elite level year after year, while playing a national schedule, and with players that are at or near the top of the heap academically (at least relative to other athletes). Rightly or wrongly, it seems that a lot of these candidates have concluded that these expectations may not be realistic given that they may not be given the tools they need to succeed (recruiting, scheduling, etc), and consequently may not consider HC at Notre Dame a wise career move.

[moriarty]

Just as long as they don't take Tedford from Cal.

I actually think Butch Davis would be a good hire. If he can run a clean sucessful program at Miami, he could at ND. But I don't know if ND is interested in Davis especially since he got such a bad rap over at nearby Cleveland.

Edited b/c I cut and paste the wrong thing.

[scooper]

Yes, Notre Dame used to take a few chances on academically risky recruits but that was over a decade ago. I doubt they would start now. If they wouldn't give an inch on academics to their alleged number 1 candidate, why would they do it for anybody else? This issue probably played a big role in ND's embarrassment of a coaching search last time, when it seemed like nobody wanted to touch the ND job with a 10 foot pole.

As the cliche goes, recruiting is the lifeblood of a college athletics program. Yes, Notre Dame is perceived to be a glamor job, but I could see why a lot of these high profile candidates won't take it. There is an expectation at Notre Dame that the football team should perform at an elite level year after year, while playing a national schedule, and with players that are at or near the top of the heap academically (at least relative to other athletes). Rightly or wrongly, it seems that a lot of these candidates have concluded that these expectations may not be realistic given that they may not be given the tools they need to succeed (recruiting, scheduling, etc), and consequently may not consider HC at Notre Dame a wise career move.
You pretty much nailed it.

[scooper]

Just as long as they don't take Tedford from Cal.

I actually think Butch Davis would be a good hire. If he can run a clean sucessful program at Miami, he could at ND. But I don't know if ND is interested in Davis especially since he got such a bad rap over at nearby Cleveland.

Edited b/c I cut and paste the wrong thing.
Honestly, from day one, Tedford would have been my first choice, even over Meyer. But I don't think he's a realistic candidate, especially given his new contract.

I agree Butch Davis may be a good choice, but with his supposed anxiety attack before the Bengals game, I think he may be headed for a year off from coaching.

[Warhammer]

I just hope the ND alumni get their heads out of their asses and force Kevin White out. He has not exactly shined with his football head coach decisions. Also, the alumni need to realize that 9-3/8-3 is a pretty good year.

[scooper]

Per CNNSI

"It looks like we're not going to know anything until next week," UF spokesman Steve Orlando said. "The coaching search goes on."
I'm sure it's still UF, but I wish everyone would just get it over with.

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

It's time for me to go home and spend a couple days holding my 7 week old son. There's better things for me to do than hang on every word of this fiasco.

[dawgfan]

The name's come up and I'd actually prefer him to Meyer, but with the lowball offer they gave Meyer, I think he's a pipe dream with his new extension at Cal.

Tedford hasn't signed any extension with Cal yet. The AD there, Sandy Barbour, has been hitting up a bunch of wealthy Cal boosters to pony up $50K or more a piece to bring Tedford's salary up to $2M or more, but it's not a done deal by any means. And the facilities upgrades there are still far from finalized in terms of planning and University and community approval, and principle funding for it is still a long ways off.

I expect by Sunday that Washington will have officially contacted Tedford and will offer $2.5M or more as well as show him their progress on plans to renovate Husky Stadium. There's no guarantee he'll leave Cal at this point, but the UW will make if very hard for him to say no.

[Eaglesfan27]

You watch too much ESPN.

Ty wasn't going to win there.

But now I'm not convinced the ND administration will do what it takes to get someone who will.

ND still has the tools to win but I'm not convinced they will make that committment. ND had the money to outbid Florida, by far and the precedent had been set in the past to give in a bit to the academic concessions Meyer wanted.
I don't need to watch ESPN or listen to Rome to see that Ty conducted himself in a classy manner.

[CHEMICAL SOLDIER]

I heard ND will hire a necromancer and raise Knute Rockne George ''gipper'' Gipp and all 4 hoursemen from the grave. Return to Glory Baby!!!!!

[SunDancer]

I'm not an insider. Anything I post here comes from ND boards or chats on ND boards. There is sort of a courtesy granted to folks who post things in the chat I was in that what is said in chat stays in chat. If you want that information, go find it. It's out there. But like I said, I will not post anything that I deam to be nothing more than rumor at this point.

There is enough ND bashing around here for me to throw you guys a bone such as a pipe dream head coach.

Just curious, what stems the ND bashing? I just get the feeling that you try to make it "secret", yet later in your last post try to spin it as to the hell with this.

[scooper]

Just curious, what stems the ND bashing? I just get the feeling that you try to make it "secret", yet later in your last post try to spin it as to the hell with this.

Nothing's secret. If I had found more sound info on which to substantiate the name, I would have probably posted it.

Now the names thrown out there are Petrino (who apparently was ready to leave for Florida if Meyer turned them down) Hawkins or Weiss.

Also, it's reported now that ND didn't lowball Meyer, the deals were similar. It came down to ND not giving in as much as he wanted on academics, his wife wanting Florida, and advice from his father and Earl Bruce.

The ND administration was willing to give somewhat on academics, but not at the level UM wanted.

[scooper]

I heard ND will hire a necromancer and raise Knute Rockne George ''gipper'' Gipp and all 4 hoursemen from the grave. Return to Glory Baby!!!!!

Go Navy. ;)

[Eaglesfan27]

Most media outlets are saying that Florida offered 5 million more than ND. I'd be interested in hearing your sources Scooper.

[Noop]

I found this on the Cane board pretty funny....

1. No one cares anymore
2. No one who wants to win will play there anymore
3. No coach who wants to win will coach there anymore
4. We always hated those repainted helmets
5. Where exactly is the school ???
6. Time to give it up when the ghosts of past teams could
open a can of whop ass on ya
7. Because the best sporting goods store is on 3rd and 44
8. Even the Pope bets against your team
9. Boston College wants you off their OCC schedule so they
can have a strength of schedule upgrade
10. Because your football program should be renamed after a
hit TV show ........ "Desperate Housewives" or "Lost" ....

No offense to ND fans it is just humor...

[Noop]

GOD made Notre Dame #1.......

MIAMI MADE THEM #2......

Bob Davie made them # 56

Ty Willingham made them # 37

Urban Meyer just flat out laughed at them...

by the way, did anyone know who Urban Meyer was 10 years ago, I think Notre Dame is headed down the Penn State path

[scooper]

In the orlando sentinal, Meyer's father said the contracts were identical. This wasn't about money. It was about ND not being willing to give in on academic recruiting restrictions. And about his family preferring ND. His father said in the article he told him to go to UF.

By the way, at the ND Michigan game, Sean McDonough just mentioned the rumor I was discussing earlier. Since it's been mentioned on national TV now- I heard they would make a run at Ferentz. I doubt they have any chance.

I still think it will be Hawkins Petrino or Weiss.

[dawgfan]

By the way, at the ND Michigan game, Sean McDonough just mentioned the rumor I was discussing earlier. Since it's been mentioned on national TV now- I heard they would make a run at Ferentz. I doubt they have any chance.

I still think it will be Hawkins Petrino or Weiss.

Does he have an out-clause for Notre Dame? Because otherwise, the extension he just signed with Iowa would make it very expensive for any school to pluck him away. Husky fans were very interested in him up until he signed that extension after the win over Wisconsin...

[Swaggs]

NEXT IRISH HEAD COACH?

BOBBY PETRINO (Louisville Head Coach) 2:1 +$200
BUTCH DAVIS (Former Browns Head Coach) 4:1 +$400
NICK SABAN (LSU Head Coach) 5:1 +$500
RICH RODRIGUEZ (West Virginia Head Coach) 6:1 +$600
PHILLIP FULMER (Tennessee Head Coach) 7:1 +$700
KIRK FERENTZ (Iowa Head Coach) 8:1 +$800
JON GRUDEN (Buccaneers Head Coach) 12:1 +$1200
BOB STOOPS (Oklahoma Head Coach) 14:1 +$1400
JEFF TEDFORD (California Head Coach) 16:1 +$1600
DAN HAWKINS (Boise St Head Coach) 18:1 +$1800
LOU HOLTZ (Former S Carolina Head Coach) 25:1 +$2500
FIELD (Any Other Not Listed Above) 1:1 EVEN

From: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041204/sfsa002_1.html

[HerRealName]

Ferentz is a great coach but I can't see him leaving behind his son (starting Center) before his senior season. I see Ferentz in Iowa for a long time.

On an unrelated subject, how long before Miami fans start begging for Butch Davis to return?

[JonInMiddleGA]

So Mariucci tells ND "no" too?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1938575

Okay,it seems the current number might be two -- anybody seen an over/under line for ND rejections?

[Mr. Wednesday]

Someone claiming inside knowledge posted at Sons of Sam Horn (a Red Sox board with a general sports section) that ND matched UF on money but Meyer made some kind of other demands. The source apparently thinks that the demands were such that he knew they wouldn't be met, which suggests to me that it goes beyond just a small number of admissions waivers, if true.

As far as Mariucci goes, the same source indicates that ND called a number of coaches to gauge interest, and Mariucci is just the only one to take it public.


I think Charlie Weis might be a good choice.

[Bubba Wheels]

Butch Davis is the man the Irish want. He would follow in the same mold as previous Irish coaches Lou Holtz and Dan Devine. Something about college coaches leaving to coach in the Pros, even with mixed results, makes for a good bet when they take over at ND. Davis rebuilt the Miami program and his track record in college speaks for itself.

Cleveland talk is that Davis was told he MUST win Cincinnati game to keep his job. Obviously that didn't happen, but would explain his anxiety attack. Davis was also blamed by the fans and media in Cleveland for the departure of Carmen Policy and others. Bottom line is that the fans turned against him, and Owner Randy L. and no one else to fire. Notre Dame would be different situation.