View Full Version : Why I KNOW The Eagles Will Lose
Pyser
01-25-2005, 11:31 AM
just didnt want this buried in another thread, for selfish reasons.
i know the eagles will lose because they paraded the wrong damn trophy around the stadium. they were WAY too happy to just get to the big game.
in hockey, no one will even TOUCH the conference champion trophy, let alone parade it around.
and yes, i know terry bradshaw told them to do it, but still...who does what bradshaw says? i mean, its the wrong freakin' trophy.
defend it all you want, but running that trophy around the field was their kiss of death, and the eagles will lose.
rkmsuf
01-25-2005, 11:33 AM
how stupid was that when Bradshaw told him to take a lap of the stadium. I don't even think they wanted to.
Eaglesfan27
01-25-2005, 11:34 AM
McNabb definitely doesn't sound happy just to be there. He sounds like a man determined to win the Super Bowl. I think he will keep the team focused as well (not that they need it.) It did not look like the Eagles wanted to run that trophy.
FBPro
01-25-2005, 11:39 AM
Pats in a cake-walk.
EagleFan
01-25-2005, 11:44 AM
Pats in a cake-walk.
Sooner or later you'll get one of these predictions right.
FBPro
01-25-2005, 11:46 AM
True
EagleFan
01-25-2005, 11:50 AM
dola: They're not even allowed to enjoy the moment? That is somehow the kiss of death? That's pure BS. If they lose, it'll be because they are outplayed by the Patriots, whether they were happy to win the NFC or not.
Hell, by that logic the Red Sox shouldn't have won the World Series because of how happy they were to win the ALCS.
Life is too short to allow idiotic superstitions to rule your life. Enjoy the dam moment because you never know what life will bring your way in the future and if you will ever get the chance to celebrate again.
JimboJ
01-25-2005, 11:55 AM
Sorry, but I just don't buy this "happy to be there crap". Of course, they will be happy to be there, and they'll enjoy all the pre-super bowl hype probably more than the Patriots. But what does that have to do with their performance on the field when its time to kick off? If you know anything about Andy Reid, you know he will have his team as prepared to play as the Pats.
If they lose, it won't be beacuse they are happy to be there.
Pyser
01-25-2005, 12:03 PM
i dont really care WHY they lose. and if i were a philly fan, id think this thread was just dumb.
and i know it looks ridiculous to say, but i personally have no doubt they will lose because of their victory lap with the wrong trophy.
Suicane75
01-25-2005, 12:05 PM
i dont really care WHY they lose. and if i were a philly fan, id think this thread was just dumb.
and i know it looks ridiculous to say, but i personally have no doubt they will lose because of their victory lap with the wrong trophy.
What are the lottery numbers gonna be tommorow?
EagleFan
01-25-2005, 12:09 PM
i dont really care WHY they lose. and if i were a philly fan, id think this thread was just dumb.
and i know it looks ridiculous to say, but i personally have no doubt they will lose because of their victory lap with the wrong trophy.
So you're guaranteeing something that can never be proven? They may lose because they just aren't good enough but to you it's ONLY because of the victory lap? .............. Strange, just strange..................
rkmsuf
01-25-2005, 12:09 PM
So you're guaranteeing something that can never be proven? They may lose because they just aren't good enough but to you it's ONLY because of the victory lap? .............. Strange, just strange..................
that's the genius of it
EagleFan
01-25-2005, 12:11 PM
In that case, I am guaranteeing that I will not win the lottery tonight because it snowed over the weekend. Dammit, if it weren't for that snow I would be rich!!!!! I hate mother nature, that bitch!!!!
Pyser
01-25-2005, 12:51 PM
call it a jinx, if you will..
rkmsuf
01-25-2005, 12:51 PM
I christen thee The Pyser Principle.
Pyser
01-25-2005, 12:53 PM
hehe.
just dont play with the wrong trophy. simple as that.
Ajaxab
01-25-2005, 01:35 PM
just didnt want this buried in another thread, for selfish reasons.
i know the eagles will lose because they paraded the wrong damn trophy around the stadium. they were WAY too happy to just get to the big game.
in hockey, no one will even TOUCH the conference champion trophy, let alone parade it around.
and yes, i know terry bradshaw told them to do it, but still...who does what bradshaw says? i mean, its the wrong freakin' trophy.
defend it all you want, but running that trophy around the field was their kiss of death, and the eagles will lose.
I have always thought that the hockey tradition of not touching the conference champion trophy is one of the best in sports. Sure there are those out there who remember conference champions, but they would be the exception rather than the rule. It would be great if teams in other sports would follow suit in not touching the trophy. No one should be happy just to get there.
Pyser
01-25-2005, 01:37 PM
all the best traditions are in hockey.
every sport should do playoff beards. they are so badass.
Suicane75
01-25-2005, 01:38 PM
This is such a dumb...no, not dumb, but superstitious belief, i don't really understand the reasoning.
Yay, I just banged Elle MacPherson and get to move on to the "seduce Cindy Crawford" version of the game. Hell yeah i'm gonna be excited.
rkmsuf
01-25-2005, 01:39 PM
I'll bet you there are a ton of those hockey guys that wished they touched the trophy.
CHEMICAL SOLDIER
01-25-2005, 01:44 PM
Pats win this one .
Pyser
01-25-2005, 01:47 PM
I'll bet you there are a ton of those hockey guys that wished they touched the trophy.
well, again, thats the wrong goal.
i still love that rob neidermeyer hasnt touched the stanley cup, even though his brother has brought it home 3 times. some things are worth waiting for.
rkmsuf
01-25-2005, 01:48 PM
well, again, thats the wrong goal.
i still love that rob neidermeyer hasnt touched the stanley cup, even though his brother has brought it home 3 times. some things are worth waiting for.
So it's kind of like I ain't kissing you unless we are going to f-ck.
Suicane75
01-25-2005, 01:50 PM
well, again, thats the wrong goal.
i still love that rob neidermeyer hasnt touched the stanley cup, even though his brother has brought it home 3 times. some things are worth waiting for.
Romance is for the bedroom.
Pyser
01-25-2005, 02:00 PM
id f-ck the stanley cup.
rkmsuf
01-25-2005, 02:01 PM
id f-ck the stanley cup.
what if your brother brought it over?
Pyser
01-25-2005, 02:04 PM
well, that depends. am i a professional hockey player, too?
if i drank enough beer out of the top, id do lots of nasty things to it.
somehow, though, i feel our conversation has taken the thread off topic...
rkmsuf
01-25-2005, 02:05 PM
well, that depends. am i a professional hockey player, too?
if i drank enough beer out of the top, id do lots of nasty things to it.
somehow, though, i feel our conversation has taken the thread off topic...
I don't know. I'm currently disturbed by the mental imagery of your suggestion.
Pyser
01-25-2005, 02:06 PM
its the holy grail, man. plus, once i shaved off my beard, i looked so damn good in the reflection of the cup....
which is why the eagles will lose!
Desnudo
01-25-2005, 04:34 PM
I don't think there's any harm in parading a trophy around in front of your fans since it's the last time you'll see them at home that season.
EagleFan
01-25-2005, 05:08 PM
So if you and your wife's goal is to have a kid, you can't enjoy the sex along the way that makes that happen?
I guess the 1980 hockey team was a bunch of morons for celebrating their win over Russia?
I guess in your line of work you can't enjoy any promotion that you receive until you become the CEO?
Those poor stupid NASCAR drivers, they actually celebrate winning an individual race.
This is one of the dumbest things that I have ever heard, it figures that it's a bunch of hockey players that started it.
SackAttack
01-25-2005, 05:19 PM
i still love that rob neidermeyer hasnt touched the stanley cup.
I hope the bastard never does.
No, really, I'm not a disgruntled Panthers fan. Honest. :D
Draft Dodger
01-25-2005, 05:23 PM
the Eagles will get beat, but it has nothing to do with the trophy parade. they just are up against a better team.
Draft Dodger
01-25-2005, 05:25 PM
although, the Eagles DO deserve to lose just because of that asshat Freddie Mitchell wearing the dorky boxing belt.
Pumpy Tudors
01-25-2005, 06:06 PM
To all you folks getting defensive over Pyser's original post, it's just superstition talk, people. I guess hockey players (and fans) are more superstitious than football people, but he was just saying. For the Eagles fans, you obviously want your team to win the game, but is there any reason to dismiss the superstition so vehemently?
It's true that NHL teams generally don't touch the conference championship trophy when they win it (although Scott Stevens immediately grabbed the Prince of Wales Trophy in 2003, and his team went on to win the Stanley Cup that season). There's a reason that they won't touch it: it's not what they're playing for. I think that many football players and fans (not necessarily the fans on this board) don't quite understand that concept. Yes, they know that they want to win the Super Bowl, but there's a difference. Football players and fans aren't in it for the Vince Lombardi Trophy. They're in it so they can be called Super Bowl champions. NHL players are in it for the Stanley Cup. It's not all about the title. It's about being literally etched into their sport's history for eternity. The actual trophy means a hell of a lot more to NHL people than it does to NFL people.
I can't speak for Pyser, but I got the impression that he was emphasizing the trophy far more than most football fans would. I don't have a problem with that.
hhiipp
01-25-2005, 06:14 PM
So if no players from either team in hockey touches the trophy before the Stanley Cup Finals how do they determine a winner? What a stupid superstition.
Pumpy Tudors
01-25-2005, 06:37 PM
So if no players from either team in hockey touches the trophy before the Stanley Cup Finals how do they determine a winner? What a stupid superstition.
Either you're joking or you don't get it.
Pyser
01-25-2005, 08:54 PM
pumpy-
thank you very much. you explained it better than i can. i'm a big hockey fan, so i just took that superstition and applied it to football. well done.
Pyser
01-25-2005, 08:55 PM
dola
as a big devils fan, i do remember stevens picking up the trophy. he posed for a picture, and put it right back down. people were suprised he even did that much.
EagleFan
01-25-2005, 10:13 PM
dola
as a big devils fan, i do remember stevens picking up the trophy. he posed for a picture, and put it right back down. people were suprised he even did that much.
I guess the Devils lost the Stanley Cup that season? They obviously didn't deserve to win since a team member touched the 'wrong' trophy.
Oh, and for the record, I would have this same opinion no matter which team was being talked about. It's just an idiotic hockey tradition. As was asked earlier but never really answered, if neither of the teams touch the Conference Trophy than historically your odds of winning by not touching is 50 percent. With Scott Stevens touching the trophy we know that the odds of winning when touching are at least one for one. I guess this is like the other hockey tradition of orally pleasing a moose after drinking a case of molson before a big game. ;)
Pumpy Tudors
01-25-2005, 10:20 PM
So this is all just a big potshot at hockey?
Nobody's saying that avoiding the trophy is any kind of guarantee that you'll win a championship. It's all about knowing what you're playing for. I could try to say more, but it'd essentially be a repeat of what I said before.
EagleFan
01-25-2005, 10:32 PM
So being happy about what you've done so far somehow means that you don;t know what you're playing for? That's a pretty sad way to look at life, especially in terms of sports careers that are short. If you don't take the time to stop and smell the roses at each step, you may never get there again to have that chance.
Suicane75
01-25-2005, 10:43 PM
It has nothing to do with Hockey, i'd call you all nuts if you told me not to walk in front of a black cat or under a ladder. You can't throw out a superstition and then get defensive when people tell you you are nuts.
Pumpy Tudors
01-25-2005, 11:02 PM
So being happy about what you've done so far somehow means that you don;t know what you're playing for? That's a pretty sad way to look at life, especially in terms of sports careers that are short. If you don't take the time to stop and smell the roses at each step, you may never get there again to have that chance.
See, I respectfully think that the point still isn't getting across. Not touching the conference championship trophy in the NHL is a superstition, yes. We also understand that there are no cosmic forces that affect whether touching the trophy will change the outcome of the Finals.
I do not mean to imply that conference champions in the NHL or NFL shouldn't be happy or proud of what they've already accomplished. Be happy. Be proud. Enjoy it. When Pyser brought up the trophy thing, I think it was just using that superstition in good fun (which is what most sports superstitions really are, I would hope).
When I said that it's all about knowing what you're playing for, let me again stress that the NHL players are playing for a trophy. They are playing for temporary possession of a physical, tangible object. If you offer them other objects along the way, they will generally refuse. I don't think the same thing applies to NFL players, so applying an NHL superstition to them is a bit silly, but I think that was sort of the point.
Pumpy Tudors
01-25-2005, 11:03 PM
It has nothing to do with Hockey, i'd call you all nuts if you told me not to walk in front of a black cat or under a ladder. You can't throw out a superstition and then get defensive when people tell you you are nuts.
Then you would be nuts. Thanks! :p
EagleFan
01-25-2005, 11:07 PM
It has nothing to do with Hockey, i'd call you all nuts if you told me not to walk in front of a black cat or under a ladder. You can't throw out a superstition and then get defensive when people tell you you are nuts.
What if they were walking under a ladder while holding the trophy and a black cat walked past them? ;)
Pumpy Tudors
01-25-2005, 11:09 PM
Sorry, maybe I'm starting to take all of this too seriously now (my reply to Suicane75 excepted). Perhaps I should just go back to posting pictures of myself in random threads. Look for 'em.
Pyser
01-26-2005, 12:10 AM
I guess the Devils lost the Stanley Cup that season? They obviously didn't deserve to win since a team member touched the 'wrong' trophy.
theres a big difference between touching a trophy for 3 seconds, and running laps around a stadium with it.
but i think the point has been made.
weinstein7
01-26-2005, 12:41 AM
So it's kind of like I ain't kissing you unless we are going to f-ck.
Well, look at it this way....if your ultimate goal is to get some sex, and you start doing your happy dance after getting to first base, well....things probably aren't going to end well. Wait till you've consumated the relationship, and THEN run around the room celebrating as your fans cheer you on. (was that last part over the top?)
rkmsuf
01-26-2005, 08:51 AM
Well, look at it this way....if your ultimate goal is to get some sex, and you start doing your happy dance after getting to first base, well....things probably aren't going to end well. Wait till you've consumated the relationship, and THEN run around the room celebrating as your fans cheer you on. (was that last part over the top?)
So whipping it out at first base is a bad thing?
Samdari
01-26-2005, 09:11 AM
in hockey, no one will even TOUCH the conference champion trophy, let alone parade it around.
And yet, fully half those teams lose in the Stanley Cup.
Pyser
02-06-2005, 04:54 PM
just a polite bump. lets see if my "theory" is right!
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