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Ragone
01-26-2005, 01:57 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft05/news/story?id=1975310

:)

cthomer5000
01-26-2005, 05:47 AM
1. Great thread title. :)

2. This will be interesting. I always love to root for the position-chaning QBs, so I hope it works out.

Ben E Lou
01-26-2005, 08:04 AM
With his size and speed, he'll be a *huge* factor at WR if he's got the hands.

sachmo71
01-26-2005, 08:14 AM
With his size and speed, he'll be a *huge* factor at WR if he's got the hands.

Like Crouch?

Ben E Lou
01-26-2005, 08:17 AM
Like Crouch?Isn't he like a half a foot shorter than Jones? Further, I'm not sure he's any faster than Jones.

Breeze
01-26-2005, 08:21 AM
Isn't he like a half a foot shorter than Jones? Further, I'm not sure he's any faster than Jones.


Plus Crouch is about 45 lbs lighter.

I'd give Jones a shot if I were a GM.

sachmo71
01-26-2005, 08:22 AM
Plus Crouch is about 45 lbs lighter.

I'd give Jones a shot if I were a GM.
I don't trust white QB-turned-whatevers in the NFL.

Breeze
01-26-2005, 08:26 AM
Have there been many? ;)

albionmoonlight
01-26-2005, 08:28 AM
TE would be interesting. He's certainly tough enough. I've seen that guy pop right up from thoes hits that make everyone in the stadium involuntarially go "OHHHH"

Poli
01-26-2005, 09:11 AM
Have there been many? ;)

Crouch comes to mind. :) Frost, the other Nebraska QB, was moved to safety.

Bellisari from Ohio State I believe was tried out at safety as well, but I don't think he made it for the Rams.

DanGarion
01-26-2005, 09:19 AM
I don't trust white QB-turned-whatevers in the NFL.
Drew Bennett?

Huckleberry
01-26-2005, 09:20 AM
His size will be his biggest asset. He's slippery, but I don't think he's as fast as most believe.

Nice to see that the guy Gruden put in charge of answering any question Jones might have played at Texas. :D

VPI97
01-26-2005, 09:29 AM
Have there been many? ;) It's not exactly the same thing (senior starting college QB to NFL DB), but VT has had a couple of guys who were switched from QB to safety late in their college careers that have found homes in the pros...mostly for special teams, but both Kevin McCadam (Falcons) and Nick Sorenson (Rams) have played some in the secondary as well.

sachmo71
01-26-2005, 09:39 AM
Drew Bennett?
If that's true, then there is one.

Still don't trust 'em, though. They tend to flake. I think it's because they can't handle not being "the leader".

Balldog
01-26-2005, 09:46 AM
Steve Bellisari got drafted and played a little Safety for the Rams. He was better suited for Safety in college than he was for Quarterback anyway.

FBPro
01-26-2005, 09:56 AM
Drew Bennett?
I'd take another Drew Bennett, you could sure do worse at wideout.

Bearcat729
01-26-2005, 11:55 AM
Have there been many? ;)


Yeah I didn't notice the comment about white QB turned whatever. Never mind

TazFTW
01-26-2005, 11:56 AM
They're white???

primelord
01-26-2005, 12:49 PM
Crouch's issues weren't because he physically couldn't play the position. He was convinced he was a QB and he wasn't willing to play anything else. He probably would have done fairly well if he would have been willing to stick with it at wideout.

TazFTW
01-26-2005, 11:57 PM
Here's what the Great Blue North guys have said about Jones in practice.

In a week of interesting stories, one of the most intriguing has been the shift of former Arkansas QB Matt Jones to WR. The 6-6, 242-pound Jones lacks the twitch speed of the other receivers in camp, otherwise, though, he has hardly looked out of place. Indeed, today, Jones turned in not one, but two hilite reel type catches. On one he made a spectacular one-handed grab of a pass over his head; the other was a long TD reception in the end zone. Jones has been especially solid this week beating press coverage where he has been able to use his size to keep CBs away from the ball.

DanGarion
01-27-2005, 12:19 AM
John Lynch!

ahbrady
01-27-2005, 09:46 PM
If that's true, then there is one.

Still don't trust 'em, though. They tend to flake. I think it's because they can't handle not being "the leader".

That wouldn't be a problem with Jones. I'm pretty sure he would prefer not to be "the leader".

Blade6119
01-27-2005, 10:19 PM
What about the pitt WR from indiana??? That guy is a huge star for them now, and he was the QB for idiana

primelord
01-27-2005, 10:40 PM
What about the pitt WR from indiana??? That guy is a huge star for them now, and he was the QB for idiana
I am pretty certain the discussion was centered around white college QBs that made the switch to something else.

primelord
01-27-2005, 10:41 PM
Dola,

And it is a bad idea to mention Randel El in thos thread. We run the very high risk of Kodos seeing this and blabbing on for days about how Crouch stole the heisman from him. :)

sachmo71
01-28-2005, 08:21 AM
What about the pitt WR from indiana??? That guy is a huge star for them now, and he was the QB for idiana

Randal El is a huge star?

INDalltheway
01-28-2005, 03:00 PM
Randal El is a huge star?
Yeah, he's a big star, and he likes caviar before he performs every night.

Country music is teh shit. :D

Ben E Lou
03-01-2005, 07:03 AM
OK at 6' 6" 240+ lbs and a 4.4 40...Now I know I'll take a chance on this guy. Last I heard his workouts have likely moved him into the 3rd round.He'll be a great value in Round 3.

Breeze
03-01-2005, 07:04 AM
OK at 6' 6" 240+ lbs and a 4.4 40...Now I know I'll take a chance on this guy. Last I heard his workouts have likely moved him into the 3rd round.

Huckleberry
03-01-2005, 08:31 AM
His size will be his biggest asset. He's slippery, but I don't think he's as fast as most believe.
The 6-6, 242-pound Jones lacks the twitch speed of the other receivers in camp, otherwise, though, he has hardly looked out of place.
Man, I was wrong on the 40 time. But I still don't think he's as fast on the field as that 40 time represents. Dak Pearson of Texas walked him down last year without much problem. Pearson is fast, but he's not 4.2 fast.

Either way, Jones is definitely a very nice prospect.

QuikSand
03-01-2005, 08:51 AM
If Jones really is tight end big and running a legit 4.4... he won't be there for anyone in round three. He'll be one of those guys with a big up arrow by his name come draft day, and he'll get picked in the middle of round two or earlier, even if he has no position.

Tigercat
03-01-2005, 08:54 AM
Man, I was wrong on the 40 time. But I still don't think he's as fast on the field as that 40 time represents. Dak Pearson of Texas walked him down last year without much problem. Pearson is fast, but he's not 4.2 fast.

Either way, Jones is definitely a very nice prospect.

I would have agreed on 40 time(was surprised to see the 4.4 times) but i disagree with his field speed. First, his field speed is deceptive at first glance, hes a long strider and looks like hes going much slower than he is. As far as being caught from behind, he has a patient style at times, because he does make some stop and go moves as a runner. He does need to learn to hit the jets a little more with the ball in his hands when he has the opporitunity. That being said, I have seen him burn too many speedsters in the SEC to agree with him not having high end field speed. When he turns the burners on, he can outrun CBs that have very favorable angles on him. Didn't he once burn Texas for a 80 yard TD?

Ben E Lou
03-01-2005, 09:00 AM
First, his field speed is deceptive at first glance, hes a long strider and looks like hes going much slower than he is. As far as being caught from behind, he has a patient style at times, because he does make some stop and go moves as a runner. He does need to learn to hit the jets a little more with the ball in his hands when he has the opporitunity. That being said, I have seen him burn too many speedsters in the SEC to agree with him not having high end field speed. When he turns the burners on, he can outrun CBs that have very favorable angles on him. Didn't he once burn Texas for a 80 yard TD?Bingo. This kid outran defenders in the SEC, even against Auburn, Florida and Georgia--teams known for having some pretty serious team speed.

MJ4H
03-01-2005, 09:03 AM
Man, I was wrong on the 40 time. But I still don't think he's as fast on the field as that 40 time represents. Dak Pearson of Texas walked him down last year without much problem. Pearson is fast, but he's not 4.2 fast.

Either way, Jones is definitely a very nice prospect.

He was injured that week.

Breeze
03-01-2005, 09:21 AM
Man this guy could cause some serious match up problems, especially if he goes to a team that likes to throw to backs - who's the safety going to cover - the back or Jones?