Clarett just ran a 4.82 [Archive] - Front Office Football Central

Vinatieri for Prez

02-26-2005, 12:38 PM

I'm watching the combine right now on the NFL network and the RBs. Clarett just ran an unofficial 4.82!! His stock has got to be dropping fast. Even all the unknowns are getting under 4.6, so his time is real disappointing. There were some 250+ fullbacks even running 4.6 or so. Some RBs are running 4.4/4.38. So, it isn't necessarily a slow track.

I think he has one more run coming up.

INDalltheway

02-26-2005, 12:41 PM

:D I run a 4.92, and I'm a stiff, white boy!

Draft Dodger

02-26-2005, 12:41 PM

well, it's not like he had any time to prepare...

VPI97

02-26-2005, 12:43 PM

His second run was in the 4.75 range.

Meanwhile, Ronnie Brown just ran a 4.32

Comey

02-26-2005, 12:47 PM

Ronnie Brown ran a 4.32?

For the love of God, Philly, trade up!!!

Vinatieri for Prez

02-26-2005, 12:47 PM

His time was actually an official 4.89!!!! His second run was an unofficial 4.72.

Ronnie Brown of Auburn just ran 4.40 and 4.32 unofficial!!!That last number was pretty impressive. it will earn him $$$$.

Benson chose not to run. Disappointing.

Gary Gorski

02-26-2005, 12:48 PM

Don't worry he'll just have the timer change the time for him or someone else run it in his place...oh wait, he's not at OSU anymore. Too bad Mo - at least he's got that college education to fall back on...well, I'm sure there's a McDonalds back in Columbus. He can watch the kiddies in the playland and sign autographs for Buckeye fan.

Buccaneer

02-26-2005, 12:54 PM

Keep your eyes on his lawyers and his mother, they will place the blame elsewhere.

HomerJSimpson

02-26-2005, 01:05 PM

What about Cadillac?

bhlloy

02-26-2005, 01:06 PM

Ronnie Brown looks GOOD... he's my clear number one now. Not sure why Benson wouldn't run - pretty boneheaded move IMO.

Clarett hurt himself, but he's got nothing to worry about. Someone is going to take a flyer on him and he'll go higher than he should.

For the O-Lineman, Scott Young out of BYU put up some scary numbers and looks to have some serious upside. Great day for him. Jammal Brown looked good as well apparently with Alex Barron not working out, but I didn't see that bit of the program.

cthomer5000

02-26-2005, 01:10 PM

Clarett may have just moved himself into the 'undrafted' range

HomerJSimpson

02-26-2005, 01:14 PM

Clarett may have just moved himself into the 'undrafted' range

Naw, he'll run again and miraculously come in well under that time. There is a sucker born every minute, and many of them have input on draft day.

BigJohn&TheLions

02-26-2005, 01:16 PM

Clarett may have just moved himself into the 'undrafted' range

This was obviously intentional so that he can choose what NFL team he wants to play for. Maurice Clarett plays football for the love of the game, not for money. He has never been about money and never will be. He will sign with the Oakland Raiders and rush for 2,500 yards as a rookie. He will then bear Randy Moss' love child and appear on the Jerry Springer show.

HomerJSimpson

02-26-2005, 01:18 PM

I'm reading now that Williams didn't run. Even with that run from Brown, I think Caddy will be a better NFL RB. Not that either one is going to be bad, mind.

korme

02-26-2005, 01:52 PM

emmitt smith anyone? clarett was never about speed - it was his ability to make tacklers miss that made his star so bright at osu for one miraculous season.

cthomer5000

02-26-2005, 01:55 PM

emmitt smith anyone? clarett was never about speed - it was his ability to make tacklers miss that made his star so bright at osu for one miraculous season. Yeah, but you have to put this in perspective. These aren't bad times for an RB, they're terrible times for an RB.

All that talk about sneaking back into Day 1 is finished now, believe me. He's a very late round pick, if at all, IMHO.

This is barring some spectaculary turn-around at a personal workout.

MacroGuru

02-26-2005, 02:05 PM

I run a 4.76 and I am an overweight white guy playing ball....damn, I should be at the combine!

Draft Dodger

02-26-2005, 02:17 PM

emmitt smith anyone? clarett was never about speed - it was his ability to make tacklers miss that made his star so bright at osu for one miraculous season.

Emmitt Smith ran a 4.75?

Vinatieri for Prez

02-26-2005, 02:28 PM

I agree speed is not everything, but for a guy who won't have played in 2 seasons, and with all the baggage, he really needed to "impress" to improve his draft position. Not saying he won't be good in the NFL, just that he won't be drafted high at all.

Glengoyne

02-26-2005, 02:31 PM

emmitt smith anyone? clarett was never about speed - it was his ability to make tacklers miss that made his star so bright at osu for one miraculous season.
So Bright? I mean I looked at him in College, and all I saw was Kijana Carter or any one of many other Running backs that had success with a big time program. After watching three quarters of Steven Jackson, I was saying "Maurice who? It doesn't matter if he gets into the draft this year at all. He isn't fit to carry this guys jock".

Ryche

02-26-2005, 02:36 PM

Brown may end up the top running back taken with that time. One big thing he has over Benson is wear and tear. Brown only has about 500 carries for his carrier at Auburn while Benson started all 4 years and had 3 times as many carries.

Eaglesfan27

02-26-2005, 02:44 PM

I really wish I could see the NFL combine without having the NFL network.

TazFTW

02-26-2005, 02:48 PM

Emmitt Smith ran a 4.75?
Emmitt was in the 4.5s.

One big thing he has over Benson is wear and tear. Brown only has about 500 carries for his carrier at Auburn while Benson started all 4 years and had 3 times as many carries.
There's also some personality problems with Benson. He's been in trouble for marijuana possession and criminal trespassing and when asked about that he said, "Who makes it through 4 years of college without anything on their record!" Haven't seen a picture of him recently but I heard he cut his dreads off because he didn't want any team to associate him with that other dreadlocked RB from Texas.

vex

02-26-2005, 02:55 PM

Can anyone tell me how Jamaal Brown of OU looked yesterday?

ISiddiqui

02-26-2005, 02:56 PM

LOL... this is pretty damned funny. I wonder what round Clarett is taken... if at all.

BigJohn&TheLions

02-26-2005, 03:02 PM

I heard he cut his dreads off because he didn't want any team to associate him with that other dreadlocked RB from Texas.

Yeah. No other former Texas RB recently cut his dreads off...

vex

02-26-2005, 05:04 PM

Yeah. No other former Texas RB recently cut his dreads off...
Good point.

Crapshoot

02-26-2005, 05:09 PM

The hatred towards Clarett never fails to astound me. He's not someone I'd want to be friends with and may not be a particularly redeeming character, but my god, start telling some facts about the hypocrisy that is college football....

gottimd

02-26-2005, 05:17 PM

Can anyone tell me how Jamaal Brown of OU looked yesterday?
My fiance thought he was cute.

vex

02-26-2005, 05:22 PM

My fiance thought he was cute.
lol, I asked for that.

Icy

02-26-2005, 07:56 PM

Is there any website to see the combine results, etc?

TazFTW

02-26-2005, 09:46 PM

Can anyone tell me how Jamaal Brown of OU looked yesterday?
He ran a 5.08 40. That's the only number I've seen concerning him.

Ragone

02-26-2005, 10:30 PM

its hard to run fast when you are worried about your cd collection in your car being stolen

Vinatieri for Prez

02-26-2005, 10:54 PM

I think Emmitt was a little higher than the 4.5's.

I didn't see Jamaal Brown, but the commentators named him among the top 3 that impressed people.

JonInMiddleGA

02-26-2005, 10:56 PM

Ditto on Icy's question about anywhere to find detailed results online. The only places I've found by Googling are pay sites, and my interest isn't that high. (But I'd like to see how Odell Thurman did in order to do a little write-up for his/my local newspaper.)

Vinatieri for Prez

02-26-2005, 11:12 PM

Young Drachma

02-26-2005, 11:15 PM

daedalus

02-27-2005, 12:48 AM

One thing that always bothered me about 40 times was I always thought they should be running them in pads.

JAG

02-27-2005, 08:43 AM

This from Len Pasquarelli. Tough times for Clarett. Interesting article though, because although Pasquarelli says Clarett quit the rest of the drills, I saw him doing the vertical leap on NFL Network. Maybe the 40 was after that (I was watching probably a repeat from earlier today.

Len is thinking he may go undrafted. Amazing what poor decisions in your life can do to you. Didn't he ever hear the proverbial "stay in school." I say this not really to dis the guy, but just as an observation about some bad decisions.

*I think the thing that hurts him as much as his times are that he quit the rest of the drills. That hurts him in two ways: 1. Supposedly he is more quick than fast, so doing some of the quickness drills could've really helped his cause whereas now no one knows how his quickness compares with other backs and 2. It speaks volumes to his character on the football field. Is he going to walk off the field after getting shut down for his first -2 yard carry? I wouldn't want to have a player on my team that gets so down on himself that he won't go out and compete his best even when things aren't going great. At this point, the only real selling point you could give me is that he's quite young and hasn't had many carries in his career.

* - Please take the above with a grain of salt, as I never saw a single carry from the guy.

MIJB#19

02-27-2005, 09:27 AM

One thing that always bothered me about 40 times was I always thought they should be running them in pads.Excellent point.

Celeval

02-27-2005, 10:56 AM

Ronnie Brown of Auburn just ran 4.40 and 4.32 unofficial!!!That last number was pretty impressive. it will earn him $$$$
Scout.com is implying in their grammar-challenged combine blog that Carnell Williams ran an even better time:

Carnell Williams (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=[SITEID]&p=8&c=1&nid=1338243) / RB / Auburn

- Ran well this morning , besting the times Ronnie Brown (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=211&p=8&c=1&nid=1338203) good catching workout.

They seemed to be pretty on-target with their assessments the last few days; that's where I first heard Clarett's times and Ronnie's times.

Celeval

02-27-2005, 10:59 AM

Dola...

Also says later that T.A. McLendon "struggled to get under 4.7", which isn't much of a surprise, but really puts Clarett's struggles in perspective.

Yesterday's fastest official 40 time for a RB/FB was J.J. Arrington out of Cal, with a 4.43 and a 4.41. Brown's official times were apparently 4.45 and 4.42. Deandra Cobb (MSU) was also sub-4.5 for both runs. That's including about half of the RBs who are working out (some are going today).

JeeberD

02-27-2005, 11:05 AM

Is there any website to see the combine results, etc?

I just found this today...

http://www.neworleansprofootball.com/022605nextlevel.html

Icy

02-27-2005, 11:24 AM

Scout.com is implying in their grammar-challenged combine blog that Carnell Williams ran an even better time:

They seemed to be pretty on-target with their assessments the last few days; that's where I first heard Clarett's times and Ronnie's times.

OT: Are you a subscriber? worths for the whole year as sports news source? Last year i subscribed to profootball weekly and now i'm thinking on where to subscribe this year, ESPN insider, scout.com or again PFW.

Sun Tzu

02-27-2005, 12:28 PM

Celeval

02-27-2005, 12:48 PM

OT: Are you a subscriber? worths for the whole year as sports news source? Last year i subscribed to profootball weekly and now i'm thinking on where to subscribe this year, ESPN insider, scout.com or again PFW.
I subscribe to berniesinsiders.com, which is the Browns-specific version of scout.com. Really, I do it for the premium boards and various stuff there, and it includes certain of the insiders columns.

sovereignstar

02-27-2005, 12:57 PM

Clarett will be a top 5 pick easy in 2004.

From what I have read in the papers the NFL does not have a leg to stand on legally. Wasn't this story on page 2, since page 1 was covered with the News that a 14 year old has just signed a multi-million dollor contract to play soccer? Now, if the NFL wants to make it an eductaional requirement and not an age requirement, they may have a chance in court. Of course requiring all NFL players to have a college degree would probably result in having to fire about 75% of the current players.

Prediction: After blowing away his critics at the 2004 combine Clarett will be selected 3rd overall by the Detroit Lions.

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showthread.php?t=18534

Edit: Worst. Prediction. Ever. .

CHEMICAL SOLDIER

02-27-2005, 01:03 PM

Maybe the crew didnt have the proper set up. It could also be that his shoes werent hard enough.

dixieflatline

02-27-2005, 05:41 PM

Deandra Cobb (MSU) was also sub-4.5 for both runs. That's including about half of the RBs who are working out (some are going today).

I think he could be an interesting player. I started to pay attention to him after he put up 205 yards at michigan. Super fast and averaged 7.6 YPC but only got the ball 96 times. 5'10" but only 200 lbs. he probably isn't an everydown back but if he learned how to catch he could be a real sleeper.

cthomer5000

02-27-2005, 09:36 PM

A brief overview of Maurice Clarett:

Has played one season of college football
Hasn't played in two years
Had legal and academic problems while in school
Ran incredibly slow at the combine

Again, i'll be stunned if he goes before the 7th round (unless he looks like a different guy in his personal workout).

Logan

02-27-2005, 09:44 PM

Heard on another board that QB/WR/TE prospect Matt Jones of Arkansas ran a 4.42 and a 4.39. Not bad for a guy who's 6'6", 240.

Honolulu_Blue

02-27-2005, 09:49 PM

How fast do you think Barry ran the 40? I use to call him "the fastest, smallest, most elusive fullback in the game" because he would always get caught from behind. Not comparing Clarret to Barry in any way shape or form...just wondering.
You really need to go back and watch some old film on Barry if you think he always got caught from behind... He wasn't a blazing back with amazing speed, but he broke plenty of long touchdown runs without ever getting caught from behind.

VPI97

02-27-2005, 09:53 PM

How fast do you think Barry ran the 40? I use to call him "the fastest, smallest, most elusive fullback in the game" because he would always get caught from behind. Not comparing Clarret to Barry in any way shape or form...just wondering. Sanders ran a 4.37 coming out of Oklahoma State

http://admin.profootballhof.com/hof/release.jsp?release_id=1206

Blade6119

02-27-2005, 10:54 PM

Heard on another board that QB/WR/TE prospect Matt Jones of Arkansas ran a 4.42 and a 4.39. Not bad for a guy who's 6'6", 240.

Thats amazing to me...he outran basically all the running backs, and certainly the TEs and what not. For this guy to be a QB in college and be 6'6 240 running sub 4.4 is stunning to me. He even did long snapping in the senior bowl. Seems like the kind of kid who will be a force in a few years due to his heart more then anything.

TazFTW

02-28-2005, 12:21 AM

Heard on another board that QB/WR/TE prospect Matt Jones of Arkansas ran a 4.42 and a 4.39. Not bad for a guy who's 6'6", 240.
Wow. Mike Williams ran a 4.6.

According to that site Jeeber linked to, the two fastest times were;

South Carolina junior wide receiver TROY WILLIAMSON ran between 4.25 and 4.36 in the 40, according to most watches, which were hand-held times. The overall range of his times were 4.25 to 4.38.

Hampton U. senior wide receiver/return man JEROME MATHIS ran between 4.25 and 4.33 in the 40 today, which would set a new Combine record if it holds up.

sovereignstar

02-28-2005, 12:23 AM

Wasn't Mike Williams going to wait to run until his personal workout?

TazFTW

02-28-2005, 12:27 AM

He changed his mind. As did Cadillac Williams (4.43-4.5), Alex Smith (4.7-4.74), and Aaron Rodgers (4.71-4.8).

(well they ran, not sure if the QBs participated in the drills, Cadillac did.)

Havok

02-28-2005, 12:42 AM

Hampton U. senior wide receiver/return man JEROME MATHIS ran between 4.25 and 4.33 in the 40 today, which would set a new Combine record if it holds up.

now thats freaking fast

ISiddiqui

02-28-2005, 01:15 AM

Heard on another board that QB/WR/TE prospect Matt Jones of Arkansas ran a 4.42 and a 4.39. Not bad for a guy who's 6'6", 240.
Seeing him play in a few games this past year, that number definetly DOESN'T suprise me. The guy was the fastest person on the field for plenty of those games.

wade moore

02-28-2005, 05:56 AM

Hampton U. senior wide receiver/return man JEROME MATHIS ran between 4.25 and 4.33 in the 40 today, which would set a new Combine record if it holds up.

This is legit... We played HU in the first round of the I-AA playoffs and I saw him play live... this guy is a burner.. their basic offensive gameplan was to tell him "go long" and chuck the ball down the field...

rkmsuf

02-28-2005, 08:02 AM

Wow. Mike Williams ran a 4.6.

According to that site Jeeber linked to, the two fastest times were;

South Carolina junior wide receiver TROY WILLIAMSON ran between 4.25 and 4.36 in the 40, according to most watches, which were hand-held times. The overall range of his times were 4.25 to 4.38.

Hampton U. senior wide receiver/return man JEROME MATHIS ran between 4.25 and 4.33 in the 40 today, which would set a new Combine record if it holds up.

Mike Williams at 4.6 is terrible.

KWhit

02-28-2005, 08:18 AM

I heard this morning that former University of Georgia QB David Greene ran a faster 40 than Clarett.

Now that's funny.

ISiddiqui

02-28-2005, 08:20 AM

Mike Williams at 4.6 is terrible.
Yep, but we've seen him faster... he's got some time to improve that number.

Blackadar

02-28-2005, 08:32 AM

By the way, look at these 40 times with a grain of salt. They're just a relative measure of speed.

I remember a few years ago someone timed Joey Galloway at like 4.19 or something like that. A professor went back looked at the Olympic sprinters (100 meters) in their first 40 yards - and said if Galloway did run a 4.19, he would have been significantly faster than those Olympic sprinters.

As far as Clarett goes...couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. I hope he likes playing in the CFL (which is where he should have gone last year).

Blackadar

02-28-2005, 08:33 AM

Mike Williams at 4.6 is terrible.

Williams isn't known as a burner anyway. He's faster in pads, but he's not a human torch. His strengths are running good routes and having good hands.

rkmsuf

02-28-2005, 09:04 AM

Yep, but we've seen him faster... he's got some time to improve that number.

Yeah on his own turf. Guy had all year.

What did he weigh?

Eaglesfan27

02-28-2005, 09:29 AM

Mike Williams at 4.6 is terrible.
Anaquin Boldin's times really made him a bad receiver. Mike will be very good as a pro.

rkmsuf

02-28-2005, 09:31 AM

Anaquin Boldin's times really made him a bad receiver. Mike will be very good as a pro.

Numbers aren't absolute, it happens.

Huckleberry

02-28-2005, 12:42 PM

http://img159.exs.cx/img159/8161/clarrettoldman8fl.jpg

rkmsuf

02-28-2005, 12:51 PM

gold!

gstelmack

03-03-2005, 08:46 PM

The excuses have started. From http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft05/columns/story?id=2004345 (about Clarett not being allowed to work out at Ohio State):
He had originally bulked up to impress the scouts that week, but was too heavy, and, after a crash diet, ran disappointing times of 4.82 and then 4.72.

stevew

03-03-2005, 09:22 PM

Interesting, i should go see his workout in Youngstown, i bet its closed to the public tho.

Blackadar

03-04-2005, 06:11 AM

I think it's funny as hell.

Clarett threw Ohio State under the bus and then wanted them to let him work out on Pro Day. Laughable.

I cannot imagine any NFL team drafting this no-talent ass clown.

HomerJSimpson

03-04-2005, 01:12 PM

I think it's funny as hell.

Clarett threw Ohio State under the bus and then wanted them to let him work out on Pro Day. Laughable.

I cannot imagine any NFL team drafting this no-talent ass clown.

Lawerence Phillips went in the first round.