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jbmagic
03-01-2005, 02:03 PM
Amazing Race 7 Starts Tonight

i going to Tivo it.

i am so behind i have all of Amazing Race 6 Tivo, but not watch yet.

TazFTW
03-01-2005, 03:15 PM
Can't wait.

Boooo Ambuh and Boston Rob

rkmsuf
03-01-2005, 03:22 PM
Can't wait.

Boooo Ambuh and Boston Rob

that's kind of cool they are on that. I like them.

kingfc22
03-01-2005, 03:39 PM
that's kind of cool they are on that. I like them.
Gonna have to agree with ya.

General Mike
03-01-2005, 03:41 PM
Amazing Race 7 Starts Tonight

i going to Tivo it.

i am so behind i have all of Amazing Race 6 Tivo, but not watch yet.

I've only watched the last 2 seasons but TAR 6 was much worse than TAR 5.

Lathum
03-01-2005, 03:55 PM
Can't wait.

Boooo Ambuh and Boston Rob
They are the only reason I am going to watch. Boston Rob is my all-time favorite survivor ( based on skill, not looks). I thinki t is a brilliant move for the amazing race to put them on, think of the crossover they are going to get.

Barkeep49
03-01-2005, 04:02 PM
I've only watched the last 2 seasons but TAR 6 was much worse than TAR 5.

That's pretty much universally agreed.

And I am in the like Bahston Rob and Ambah category.

jbmagic
03-01-2005, 04:10 PM
They are the only reason I am going to watch. Boston Rob is my all-time favorite survivor ( based on skill, not looks). I thinki t is a brilliant move for the amazing race to put them on, think of the crossover they are going to get.


this will be the second time they took a cbs show and put them on amazing race.

the first one was amazing race 5 when they put one of the girl Allison that was on Big Brother with her Boyfriend.

TazFTW
03-01-2005, 04:12 PM
Allison and Donny. Now that was fun because that couple exploded.

atatange1
03-01-2005, 04:40 PM
Rob and Amber are the only reason I'm watching.

CraigSca
03-01-2005, 05:07 PM
I've read every book, attended every symposium and seen every play about Rob and Amber, so I'll be watching this, too.

Maple Leafs
03-01-2005, 06:53 PM
I've never watched before but may give it a try because of Boston Rob and whats-her-name.

But does this show give Rob any opportunity to lie, cheat and backstab? Or is it a pure competition of skill?

Pumpy Tudors
03-01-2005, 07:15 PM
Gee, they only won a ton of money on Survivor. Let's put them up against a bunch of non-celebrities and see if they can win a ton MORE money! Hurrah!

Actually, I don't really care one way or the other who wins, and it doesn't bother me that the two people from Survivor are on this show too. I just don't have the stomach for some of these reality shows. I know there are only one or two food challenges in each of the races, but if I want to watch people stuff their faces full of disgusting items and then puke it up, I'll just hang out at the cheapo liquor store down the street from my house. I don't really need to watch this kind of stuff around the time I'm trying to eat my dinner. Fuck The Amazing Race. Fuck The Amazing Race with a shovel.

Enjoy the show, guys. :D

General Mike
03-01-2005, 07:33 PM
I've never watched before but may give it a try because of Boston Rob and whats-her-name.

But does this show give Rob any opportunity to lie, cheat and backstab? Or is it a pure competition of skill?

He doesn't have as big an opportunity to lie, cheat or backstab, but there are small ways he can do it.

TazFTW
03-01-2005, 08:42 PM
The only parts they could lie in is by misleading a team. Like tell them the clue is in one direction when it is in the other direction. I know one team did that last season.

Teams can also try to get an advantage, like in last season one of the teams had a guy pretend he was mentally handicapped to get to the front of the line.

General Mike
03-01-2005, 10:16 PM
It was a pretty good episode, but these 2 hour long season premieres just seem too long to me.

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03-02-2005, 12:48 AM
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So far I'm obviously rooting for Rob and Amber and they had a good first leg. The gay kid belongs on survivor the way he's been lying to everyone. I hope him and his mom are eliminated quickly. Hopefully, the two female "friends" leave soon after them.

Nice to see that the blondes live up to their stereotype by almost getting into an accident while driving in LA.

TazFTW
03-02-2005, 01:16 AM
Nooooooooo






not the hillbillies! :( Oh well, at least the POW is still in it.

kingfc22
03-02-2005, 02:33 AM
Yea, the hillbillies would have been fun to watch during the race. Loved it when the pulled the rickshaw (sp?) past the girl's team.

wade moore
03-02-2005, 07:43 AM
I have never watched before, but as a Survivor fanatic I have been hooked by the Rob/Amber team.. Rob is one of my top 2 or 3 favorite survivor competitors and he held true to form last night...

I love that they found a fan and totally used him through half of the episode...

CraigSca
03-02-2005, 07:43 AM
Yeah, I'm disappointed the guys from South Carolina lost in round 1. They were easily the most intriguing of the group for me (from the get-go, when the one guy said, "I concur" they looked like they would surprise a few people). Unfortunately, they seemed just a little too laid-back.

Thomkal
03-02-2005, 08:04 AM
would have been good to see the rednecks stay in the game a while just for the comedy factor. Absolutely loved the fact that CBS ran subtitles whenever they spoke so you could understand what they said. Sadly as a SC transplant for a few years now, I could understand much of it. :) But if it had to be between them and the POW/beauty queen, then I glad they lost. I would have predicted the older couple to go out first, they seem like the weakest older couple ever in Amazing Race.

I understand why CBS put them in the game, but I'm not a fan of Rob and Amber being in the game. They've had their 15 minutes of fame already, let someone else had it. I'd rather see new people. Now if it was an "All-Star" version of Amazing Race, then it would be fine.

Other than the POW, I'm not sure I'm rooting for or against anyone at the moment-okay perhaps the guy who kept calling his partner weak I don't want to see win. I can see why they are a "on and off again" couple. This group seems bland overall so far. I think they need to shake up the rules a bit to generate new excitement for the game.

sachmo71
03-02-2005, 08:15 AM
I love that the female friends and the mom and son team have such hard ons to beat Rob and Amber.

Raiders Army
03-02-2005, 08:23 AM
Absolutely loved the fact that CBS ran subtitles whenever they spoke so you could understand what they said.

Agree. Those guys were my early favorites, as one of them looked like a shorter, fatter version of The Undertaker (of WWE/F Fame). They seemed to be reasonably smart and could've played it to the end. I think they just had some unfortunate luck.

Now, I'm rooting for the blondes. They have some big bazookas and are fun to watch.

My first thought of Rob and Amber receiving help because of their Survivor fame was that it was unfair. What if Britney Spears ran the race and received help because she was famous? Then after a little thought, I was okay with it. I think it was the same as if two hot chicks (blondes) received help because they're hot. You gotta use what you got!

CraigSca
03-02-2005, 08:29 AM
It's interesting the vitriol Rob and Amber are seeing - in the game and here. I admit I rarely watch Survivor (in fact, I knew they were from Survivor, but I didn't know they won). On the surface, you wonder why they'd be on another show with the potential to win another $1 million - it's rather distasteful. However, if I won $1 million and then a couple years later CBS called me to be on their show, I doubt I'd pass up the offer. As reality shows go, it's a blast and looks like a lot of fun. I think very few people would respond with, "No thanks, CBS - we've had our fun, let someone else have their chance."

If anything, dislike CBS for inviting them on the show. Don't blame them for not passing on an excellent opportunity.

gstelmack
03-02-2005, 08:36 AM
Amber made one comment early on that got me thinking: I think they're doing this as one last wild fun ride before finally getting married, settling down, and starting a family.

CraigSca
03-02-2005, 08:42 AM
They have saline implants stuffed into an incision sometimes made around the areola and are fun to watch.

God, I hate implants.

Bo Jackson's Hip
03-02-2005, 09:20 AM
"Now, I'm rooting for the blondes. They have some big bazookas and are fun to watch."

I was thinking the exact same thing, BTW....

Bo Jackson's Hip
03-02-2005, 09:21 AM
Not that there's anything wrong with that, but how gay are those two guys. Very over the top. Very.

Miller Time
03-02-2005, 10:02 AM
I had a nice chuckle when the girl was complaining to her boyfriend/friend that she couldn't breathe when carrying the basket on her back....and his response to her was to "suck it up" :D

Raiders Army
03-02-2005, 10:26 AM
God, I hate implants.
Thanks for fixing that for me.

Lathum
03-02-2005, 11:41 AM
I have never watched before, but as a Survivor fanatic I have been hooked by the Rob/Amber team.. Rob is one of my top 2 or 3 favorite survivor competitors and he held true to form last night...

I love that they found a fan and totally used him through half of the episode...
Did anyone else get the feeling that CBS rigged this? Think about it. Rob and Amber are going to bring them ratings so they want to keep them around. They were in last place when this "fan" just happened to show up, seems like to much of a coincidence to me. Other than that I enjoyed the show.

sachmo71
03-02-2005, 11:44 AM
Did anyone else get the feeling that CBS rigged this? Think about it. Rob and Amber are going to bring them ratings so they want to keep them around. They were in last place when this "fan" just happened to show up, seems like to much of a coincidence to me. Other than that I enjoyed the show.
No. No reality show is rigged.

gstelmack
03-02-2005, 12:18 PM
Did anyone else get the feeling that CBS rigged this? Think about it. Rob and Amber are going to bring them ratings so they want to keep them around. They were in last place when this "fan" just happened to show up, seems like to much of a coincidence to me. Other than that I enjoyed the show.
They're well known, why is that such a coincidence? Also note that the "help" cost them extra money for that bus, and the other girls had a huge advantage with being able to speak Spanish.

sooner333
03-08-2005, 05:59 PM
Sorry my commentary is late, i finally watched episode 1 this afternoon.

I think if it were rigged, they would have told him how to open the trunk sooner.

Also, while I liked the SC guys too and were pretty amusing and smarter than you'd think, by not running over to the other flight, they really shot themselves in the foot and got what they had coming to them.

TazFTW
03-09-2005, 12:04 AM
lol at Meredith for speaking in the third person.

Nice job by the POW and the beauty queen to go from last to 2nd.

kingfc22
03-09-2005, 12:08 AM
Rob and Amber dominated this leg of the race as much as one team can dominate a leg. Rob is always one step ahead of the other teams and if keeps his info to himself, then they might be better off in the long run.

Thought that the 2 trip technique would cost some teams, but it didn't. Funny, how all the scales at the market were rigged. HEHE.

Glad to see the brothers survive even though next week it looks like they run into trouble on a task.

I hope the whiny kid and his mom are the next to go. Ugh, can't stand them.

LloydLungs
03-09-2005, 12:17 AM
Rob and Amber would win this thing if they weren't Rob and Amber.

kingfc22
03-09-2005, 01:09 AM
Rob and Amber would win this thing if they weren't Rob and Amber.
Yea, they are sure to be yielded twice if they make it that long.

stkelly52
03-09-2005, 01:29 AM
Yea, they are sure to be yielded twice if they make it that long.
It doesn't look like everyone hates them, just a lot of vocal ones. Plus you can't be yielded if you are in front.

kingfc22
03-09-2005, 01:54 AM
It doesn't look like everyone hates them, just a lot of vocal ones. Plus you can't be yielded if you are in front.
True, but if you know that someone already has $1M in the bank, then yea I'm going to yield them.

Bo Jackson's Hip
03-09-2005, 08:57 AM
As someone so eloquently posted earlier, the chicks with the bazookas are no more. :(

Raiders Army
03-09-2005, 09:00 AM
As someone so eloquently posted earlier, the chicks with the bazookas are no more. :(
This was a big disappointment for me. The carpet munching chicks just don't do it for me. Now all I'm doing is watching it to see the mom/son combo lose and watch Rob and Amber mess with the other contestants.

On a side note, the red-haired chick and blonde do seem to be more than just "lifelong friends." Whenever I talked about the Barbies (the team booted last night), I called them lesbians. My wife would correct me by saying, "They're not the lesbians." I'd reply with: "They are in my mind."

Don't know where I've heard that before, but I figured it was apropos.

gottimd
03-09-2005, 09:01 AM
As someone so eloquently posted earlier, the chicks with the bazookas are no more. :(
Damn, I can't find a pic anywhere. Anyone have a pic to post that shows the Bazooka's, that obviously Skynet won't put you in the box for?

Raiders Army
03-09-2005, 09:08 AM
Oh, the gay Carrot Top kid (is that redundant?), Patrick, really gets on my nerves. Looking at CBS' website, I see he went to Miami....the same college Ben Roethlisberger went to, not Ray Lewis.

Raiders Army
03-09-2005, 09:09 AM
Some stuff here:

hxxp://p085.ezboard.com/fsurvivorsucksfrm23.showMessage?topicID=4542.topic

The thread is titled, "The Tits of TAR7"

General Mike
03-09-2005, 10:01 AM
i hope the gay guys go home next. Or the Old people. They really bug me.

Bo Jackson's Hip
03-09-2005, 11:15 AM
I hate to be insensitive, but why besides demographics do these reality shows keep putting these 60+ year olds on these shows. They *never* do well and are not really competitive.

gstelmack
03-09-2005, 11:59 AM
I hate to be insensitive, but why besides demographics do these reality shows keep putting these 60+ year olds on these shows. They *never* do well and are not really competitive.
Rudy made it to the Final Three on the original Survivor, and the older couple on Amazing Race 6 actually made it pretty far in.

Wolfpack
03-09-2005, 12:33 PM
In a strange sense, I'm actually enjoying watching Rob being a total bastard to everyone. He definitely has brought his cutthroat mentality over from Survivor and it's been a hoot to watch him screw with everyone else. (Guess that speaks volumes of what I think of the other teams, really...none of the others seem that great to me for one reason or another....)

gstelmack
03-09-2005, 01:06 PM
In a strange sense, I'm actually enjoying watching Rob being a total bastard to everyone. He definitely has brought his cutthroat mentality over from Survivor and it's been a hoot to watch him screw with everyone else. (Guess that speaks volumes of what I think of the other teams, really...none of the others seem that great to me for one reason or another....)
He definitely is one of the first to actually "play" this game. His acknowledgement that bribery is a fact of life in many of these countries is turning in to a huge advantage. Closest anyone else has come was Jonathan in Amazing Race 6 being smart enough to hire tour guides in many of the cities to help him and Victoria get around.

I do love how he gathered money from several of the teams to bribe the bus driver, and then didn't throw any of his own into the pot http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

TLK
03-09-2005, 01:50 PM
I'd like to nominate Chyna & Sean Waltman for Amazing Race 8.... someone needs to make this happen....

Raiders Army
03-09-2005, 03:30 PM
I'd like to nominate Chyna & Sean Waltman for Amazing Race 8.... someone needs to make this happen....
I thought they broke up?

jbmagic
03-09-2005, 03:35 PM
next version of amazing race it will be a family of four teams

Subby
03-09-2005, 04:19 PM
Boston Rob is the effing kung-fu master of reality game shows.

Absolutely love watching him and Amber in action...

kingfc22
03-09-2005, 05:50 PM
I do love how he gathered money from several of the teams to bribe the bus driver, and then didn't throw any of his own into the pot http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
LOL. That had me rolling for a while when I saw that.http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

General Mike
03-15-2005, 09:09 PM
Half these people just need to STFU.

I hated Rob during Survivor All Stars, but he is taking this game over.

Joe
03-15-2005, 09:12 PM
I watched this show for the first time last week (well part of it) and have a few questions... first, how do you win? It looks like they just do stupid shit. Second... why do the teams travel together? Doesn't that take the race part out of the amazing race?

LloydLungs
03-15-2005, 10:33 PM
I'm finding myself getting quite irritated with the Lynn/Alex team's pathological and irrational hatred of Romber. Just shut up and run your race, you knuckleheads. There are two types of reality show assholes -- those you love to hate and those who are just obnoxious and unpleasant to watch. These two are the latter.

kingfc22
03-16-2005, 12:01 AM
Agreed on the Lynn and Alex point LloydLungs. I was also happy to see the two teams I dislike the most get lost while driving and come in last and 2nd to last. :)

Rob is outsmarting people again.

TazFTW
03-16-2005, 12:04 AM
I'm surprised that the son was able to finish that meal.

Still hate Rob.

ShaqFu
03-16-2005, 12:22 AM
I watched this show for the first time last week (well part of it) and have a few questions... first, how do you win? It looks like they just do stupid shit. Second... why do the teams travel together? Doesn't that take the race part out of the amazing race?

It is a race around the world, where the teams travel point-to-point until they cross the finish line. On each leg of the race the teams complete challenges. There are usually two challenges each leg: detour and road block. Teams must complete their challenge before moving on or they are penalized (as several teams were tonight).

Teams sometimes travel together due to the nature of flight schedules, opening times at the various venues, and for the simple purpose of forming alliances. It's not unusual for teams to end up being bunched together and I think the producers want it this way. You don't want to have a team showing up to the finish line hours ahead of others. Plus, having a close race makes for interesting television.

It's definately a race. Finishing a leg in first place typically gets you a travel reward. Finishing in last may get you eliminated. It's important to finish at the top of the list, because departure times are determined by your finish time. Teams must rest for 12 hours between legs, so if you finish a leg 12 hours behind another team, you could end up being even further behind.

Rob clearly knows how to play this game. Besides he and Amber handling the language barrier, Rob knows how to work the competition. He did a great job tonight in the road block.

Cap Ologist
03-16-2005, 12:24 AM
Well, you know those homosexuals are always at the gym, working out and stuff. I'm sure they work up appetites.

stkelly52
03-16-2005, 01:28 AM
The big thing that I have thought as I have been watching this season is that Rob really know how to play the game. He kept in mind the #1 strategy, which is: don't be last. Secondly he understands the value of reading and knowing the rules and using them to his advantage. Thirdly he is incredibly good dealing with people. Everyone out there hates him, and yet he was able to sweet talk several of them into giving up on the challenge like he did. Rob is brilliant.

Thomkal
03-16-2005, 08:19 AM
My favorite quote from last night...

"oh look there's the ocean" (when they were supposed to be driving through the Andes Mountains for those who didn't see it)

And as much as I hate Rob and wish he wasn't in this game, I have to bow to his continued good play. I had my hopes up when the teaser showed he was quitting, leave it to him to use quitting to his advantage.

sachmo71
03-16-2005, 08:31 AM
Who got booted?

henry296
03-16-2005, 08:41 AM
Who got booted?

SPOILER ALERT:














The female friends: Debbie and Bianca :( They got really lost driving to the Andes.

sachmo71
03-16-2005, 08:47 AM
SPOILER ALERT:














The female friends: Debbie and Bianca :( They got really lost driving to the Andes.

Good! Thanks for the info.

Wolfpack
03-16-2005, 01:46 PM
Watching Rob in this thing is like watching a shark swimming with guppies. The guy has a staggering amount of gall at times, but also has a staggering amount of charisma to convince others to do his bidding. He'd make a great politician at the rate things are going. (Whether that's a good or bad comment on him is up to the reader)

Subby
03-16-2005, 01:55 PM
I just don't understand the hatred of Rob. That guy is just PWNING these other clowns. His gambit last night was just unbelievable.

And stealing the cab, while harmless - was a nice touch :)

Lathum
03-16-2005, 02:04 PM
Does anyone else find it funny that the gay guy had no problem eating 4 pounds of meat?

General Mike
03-22-2005, 08:54 PM
With all due respect, bitches gotta go home. Every single one of the following people grates my nerves:

Lynn and Alex
Gretchen
Susan and Patrick

chrisj
03-22-2005, 10:05 PM
How is Ray not on that list?

General Mike
03-22-2005, 11:38 PM
How is Ray not on that list?

He's getting there. I can block him out tho because he doesnt have the pure asshattedness of Colin from TAR 5 or Jonathan from TAR 6.

TazFTW
03-23-2005, 12:00 AM
He's getting there. I can block him out tho because he doesnt have the pure asshattedness of Colin from TAR 5 or Jonathan from TAR 6.
Yep.


Next episode looks interesting with Gretchen getting bloodied and the two guys flipping their car over.

kingfc22
03-23-2005, 03:23 AM
With all due respect, bitches gotta go home. Every single one of the following people grates my nerves:

Lynn and Alex
Gretchen
Susan and Patrick
Amen! Once again, let me say "Rob is the man". At the start of the leg he wanted to check other team's cars to see who had the most gas and then take that vehicle. Classic.

General Mike
03-29-2005, 09:57 PM
Lynn and Alex are such bitches.

Great hustle by Brian and Greg at the end.

Ray gets the asshat of the week award.

TazFTW
03-30-2005, 01:00 AM
Finally a foot race! Nice job by the brothers. Nice job by Gretchen for taking the fall in stride.


Good job by Phil (and the Amazing Race editing crew) for making Rob look like an even bigger asshole than he usually is.

kingfc22
03-30-2005, 01:03 AM
I would have probably done the exact same thing Rob did, but maybe not for the same reason. If I saw that another team had already stopped then I would certainly have kept on driving.

Now if only Lynn and Alex would be eliminated my dislike list would be complete.

LloydLungs
03-30-2005, 02:38 AM
I think Rob's more of an immature jackoff than an outright asshole. Subtle difference.

Not stopping at the accident site... eh. Whatever. There's absolutely zero help he could have provided. It would have been completely for show. I couldn't care less that he has no time for symbolic gestures.

Now, whining like a bitch because Lynn/Alex wouldn't let him in the cab... come on, Rob. He would have enthusiastically done the same thing had the situation been reversed (and essentially did do this to the old couple in episode one). You dish it out, you better be able to take it.

I still hate Lynn/Alex way more, though.

gstelmack
03-30-2005, 08:32 AM
Now, whining like a bitch because Lynn/Alex wouldn't let him in the cab... come on, Rob. He would have enthusiastically done the same thing had the situation been reversed (and essentially did do this to the old couple in episode one). You dish it out, you better be able to take it.
Bah, he was having a bad day and was in a bad mood and they caught it on camera. I'm still laughing that Amber is shopping in a market in Soweto, South Africa, and gets recognized and then dragged around by a local woman who knows the market inside and out.

Lathum
03-30-2005, 08:43 AM
Rob is gonna open up a can of whoop-ass and get some serious revenge.

I'm glad the on-again off-again couple lost, that guy is a dick and she can do much better.

Gretchen was a trooper but her stupid jokes are getting annoying.

I agree with gstelmac, how many different ways can they come up with to help Rob and Amber. Although South Africa is a very modern so maybe they do get survivor over there.

sachmo71
03-30-2005, 08:55 AM
Finally a foot race! Nice job by the brothers. Nice job by Gretchen for taking the fall in stride.


Good job by Phil (and the Amazing Race editing crew) for making Rob look like an even bigger asshole than he usually is.


Gretchen is a tough lady.

gstelmack
03-30-2005, 09:33 AM
I agree with gstelmac, how many different ways can they come up with to help Rob and Amber. Although South Africa is a very modern so maybe they do get survivor over there.
Remember, though, it also cost them a bit that last leg. Instead of a couple of minutes to get directions at the hospital, they got held up being greeted by fans.

Flasch186
03-30-2005, 09:37 AM
the foot race at the end was classic television, i was rooting for those guys so hard....fuck Ray he's an Asshat.

Wolfpack
03-30-2005, 10:48 AM
This was the first time I got annoyed with Rob during the competition. The first bit with the money to the old couple I could understand. I'm a generous type, so yeah, I would've kicked in for them, but I can understand that as part of the competition why Rob would not want to help another competitor. However, the tasteless remarks about the fall being "planned" and the unwillingness to at least check on the wreck were bad. In my mind, the competition is all well and good, but getting hurt (unlike, say, football or similar contact sports) isn't part of the deal in this competition. I'm not saying he should have stopped and waited like Lynn and Alex did (which is all they could have done since they weren't medically trained), but at least check in with them to make sure they are alright. There's being a bastard and being an ass, and last night, he was an ass.

ShaqFu
03-30-2005, 11:06 AM
South Africa, given its ties to the UK (home of Survivor guru Mark Burnett), probably does get episodes of the reality show to air on its national networks. This is probably why Bruckheimer wanted them. In the US, they probably wouldn't get a second look. In another country, they are looked at as if they are celebrities.

That Ray guy was a real prick. His insulting attitude towards the senior couple disgusted me. Rob hasn't been so nice either. His comments last not about Gretchen were in poor taste.

I wouldn't have stopped either, other than to perhaps roll down the window. That is still pushing it. This is a race after all. They don't stop on the tracks to help out at Nascar.

Rob simply knows how to play games like this. That's why he did so well the two times he was on Survivor.

I'm glad the brothers made it through. They were real troopers last night.

At this point, I'm rooting for Gretchen/Meredith and Uchenna/Joyce (because they were the most gracious to G/M last night).

stkelly52
03-30-2005, 12:41 PM
As someone who has lived overseas, I know that US shows are commonly shown, internationally. Survivor was on of those shows.

As for stopping, why would you stop? When Rob and Amber drove past the two teams were just standing there, they were not doing anything to help out. If Rob were to stop, he would just be standing there as well. What good does that do anyone?

TazFTW
03-30-2005, 12:49 PM
I'm not saying he should have stopped but he could have at least slowed the fuck down, rolled down a window, and checked.

Even Ray did that.

Subby
03-30-2005, 01:25 PM
"It's a race, Phil."

His decision not to give money to "The Oldsters" may backfire though...

No reason not to give them money - they aren't a threat and it helps a little with the karma.

Should've poked his head out of the window, too - but I think you have to take the good with the bad with Rob - part of his edge is his insane competitive nature. Remember how he pretty much owned most of the physical challenges on All-Stars, despite the presence of arguably better athlets like Colby and Ethan? His need to compete and win is what makes him so good - and that will expose character flaws in anyone...

stkelly52
03-30-2005, 03:34 PM
His decision not to give money to "The Oldsters" may backfire though...

No reason not to give them money - they aren't a threat and it helps a little with the karma.
That is a foolish attitude. One of Rob's strengths is that he understands that everyone is a threat. You never know what is going to happen to you and freak events can happen in a race like this. I would not help any team out unless they were also helping me.

SteelerFan448
03-30-2005, 07:55 PM
Rob and Amber, especially Rob know how to play the game as it has been pointed out. I personally like their team and hope they win because it is being played so well, plus Rob provides some good comedy and Amber is very easy on the eyes. I can't wait for those gay guys to get eliminated. Their dislike for Rob and Amber yet willingness to help all other teams is flat out annoying and very dumb.

Subby
03-30-2005, 09:16 PM
That is a foolish attitude. One of Rob's strengths is that he understands that everyone is a threat. You never know what is going to happen to you and freak events can happen in a race like this. I would not help any team out unless they were also helping me.
If you honestly think the oldsters are any kind of a threat, then you are crazy. :)

I am the biggest Rob and Amber supporter around - love the way they play the game. I just think he makes unnecessary hardass mistakes sometimes (like when he voted off Big Tom in All Stars and probably cost himself a million).

Honestly, it won't matter either way in the long run, though...

kingfc22
04-05-2005, 11:54 PM
Rob and Amber with another win.

I really didn't want to see the brother's leave as they were entertaining to the very end.

jbmagic
04-06-2005, 03:07 AM
Rob and Anber are doing great.

only way to slow them down is if someone uses the Yield

Raiders Army
04-06-2005, 07:29 AM
If you honestly think the oldsters are any kind of a threat, then you are crazy. :)

Bwahahaha! They crack me up but they aren't a threat. 10-1 they go home next week. I liked the one team (can't remember who they were) who said, "Meredith is the guy."

The faggots bug me and need to go. They are very racist and stereotypical, which is surprising for the usual butt pirate. Last night they said the black team should do well at the balancing detour because "their people are good at it." I think last week they made another racial slur as well.

Flasch186
04-06-2005, 07:46 AM
Bwahahaha! They crack me up but they aren't a threat. 10-1 they go home next week. I liked the one team (can't remember who they were) who said, "Meredith is the guy."

The faggots bug me and need to go. They are very racist and stereotypical, which is surprising for the usual butt pirate. Last night they said the black team should do well at the balancing detour because "their people are good at it." I think last week they made another racial slur as well.


BUTTTTT, Uneche said the same thing about themselves? what does that mean?

sachmo71
04-06-2005, 08:15 AM
The faggots bug me and need to go. They are very racist and stereotypical, which is surprising for the usual butt pirate. Last night they said the black team should do well at the balancing detour because "their people are good at it." I think last week they made another racial slur as well.


Was this intentional irony?

Raiders Army
04-06-2005, 09:47 AM
Was this intentional irony?
Affirmative.

ShaqFu
04-06-2005, 11:59 AM
BUTTTTT, Uneche said the same thing about themselves? what does that mean?

Well, blacks can call each other n****r, but a white person can't say that to a black and expect to be treated nice. Same thing applies to Uchenna's comments.

Subby
04-06-2005, 12:29 PM
All I can remember from last night's episode was the juxtaposition of Ron milking the goat and the gratuitous shots of Kelly's enormous jugs..

General Mike
04-06-2005, 05:09 PM
I missed it last night :(

Who was eliminated?

Raiders Army
04-06-2005, 05:24 PM
The brothers.

jbmagic
04-06-2005, 06:25 PM
It's on tonight again

there going to show all this season highlights they did so far.

so its a good chance to get caught up.

sachmo71
04-07-2005, 08:42 AM
Affirmative.


Gotcha. Nice job.

kingfc22
04-12-2005, 11:39 PM
Funniest line EVER!!!

Alex, "Ow, my butt hurts".

HAHAHAHAH

Wolfpack
04-13-2005, 10:55 AM
Was it me or was Phil looking slightly devilish when he revealed that the stop on top of the roof was not actually the Pit Stop? You can tell he took some delight in ambushing Rob and Amber with that news. I can only imagine the horror the other teams will have finding out.

General Mike
04-13-2005, 11:02 AM
when;s the season finale?

Subby
04-13-2005, 12:34 PM
Funniest line EVER!!!

Alex, "Ow, my butt hurts".

HAHAHAHAH Top 10 reality series quotes of all time. Hard to do it justice without delivering it in the whiney, effiminate tone that Alex did...

gstelmack
04-13-2005, 01:35 PM
Was it me or was Phil looking slightly devilish when he revealed that the stop on top of the roof was not actually the Pit Stop? You can tell he took some delight in ambushing Rob and Amber with that news. I can only imagine the horror the other teams will have finding out.
But Amber noticed that the wording was different and didn't say "Pit Stop". I think they were hopeful but nervous when they ran up there. Nice twist, though.

General Mike
04-19-2005, 10:49 PM
Thank God.

TazFTW
04-20-2005, 12:04 AM
Props to Joyce, although I figured out of all the teams she would be the most likely to go through with cutting her hair. Maybe Meredith and Gretchen as they already have short/little hair.

Interesting comment by Kelly in the previews,

K- "blah, blah, you have a fear of commitment"
R - "I commited to the military."
K - "but you got out of that"
R - "how?"
K - "by being a POW"

:rolleyes:

ShaqFu
04-20-2005, 12:58 AM
Props to Joyce, although I figured out of all the teams she would be the most likely to go through with cutting her hair. Maybe Meredith and Gretchen as they already have short/little hair.

Those are my two favorite teams. I would love to see one or both of them in the race to the finish.

Interesting comment by Kelly in the previews,

K- "blah, blah, you have a fear of commitment"
R - "I commited to the military."
K - "but you got out of that"
R - "how?"
K - "by being a POW"

:rolleyes:

If I was Ron I would drop that bitch as soon as the race was over. A comment like that is way over the top.

I predict:

Non-elimination next week
Rob/Amber go home after that
Final three: Uchenna/Joyce; Ron/Kelly; Gretchen/Meredith

dubb93
04-20-2005, 01:07 AM
Gretchen pisses me off. Always blaming other people, bitching at Meredith, and giving up on tasks when the solution isn't obvious. I wish the best for Meredith, but I really can't stand them as a team b/c of her.

ShaqFu
04-20-2005, 01:13 AM
Gretchen pisses me off. Always blaming other people, bitching at Meredith, and giving up on tasks when the solution isn't obvious. I wish the best for Meredith, but I really can't stand them as a team b/c of her.

They are the oldest couple to make it this far. And, I love Meredith. She's the typical grandma. This race isn't designed for the elderly, but they seem to hold their own and are doing great.

sooner333
04-20-2005, 08:44 PM
They are the oldest couple to make it this far. And, I love Meredith. She's the typical grandma. This race isn't designed for the elderly, but they seem to hold their own and are doing great.

I think every other team gets this confused, which adds to the viewer confusion, but I believe Merideth is the guy. I like this team because I think they end up going through the most adversity. But, in the end, I'm rooting for Rob and Amber and Ron and Kelly because the former is really good at the game aspect, and because I respect Ron from the military and think he's good at some tasks because of it. All in all, I really don't have a problem with any of the teams.

ShaqFu
04-20-2005, 10:18 PM
I think every other team gets this confused, which adds to the viewer confusion, but I believe Merideth is the guy. I like this team because I think they end up going through the most adversity. But, in the end, I'm rooting for Rob and Amber and Ron and Kelly because the former is really good at the game aspect, and because I respect Ron from the military and think he's good at some tasks because of it. All in all, I really don't have a problem with any of the teams.

My bad, I meant Gretchen.

EagleFan
04-21-2005, 12:25 AM
What sucked about the last episode is that the winning team didn;t et a trip or something like every other leg. After what she had to do, they deserved something.

Oh, and that old couple has got to go. Can they get any luckier? Plus her whining is really getting on my nerves.

Did anyone notice the hypocrites who lost this leg. They were complaining Rob and Amber the whole time and acting like they were "holier than thou" but seemed to have no problem telling their driver to just run over the elephant that the old couple was pushing.

Overall, I want to see Joyce and her husband (not even attempting the name) win the show. Rob and Amber have enough already but they are entertaining so I want to see them final three. Kelly is such a spoiled little priss that I don't know if I can root for that team to win. I do have a world of respect for Ron (even though he became a POW just to get out of the service ;) ).

henry296
04-21-2005, 07:52 AM
I've noticed that more than one leg this season has not had a trip. I believe the leg that Lynn/Alex won they didn't get one either.

Subby
04-21-2005, 07:57 AM
Joyce looked a million times better with that rat's nest taken off her head.

She and Uchena have grown on me a ton...I would love to see them, Rob & Amber, and The Oldsters in the final three...

wade moore
04-21-2005, 07:59 AM
Joyce looked a million times better with that rat's nest taken off her head.

She and Uchena have grown on me a ton...I would love to see them, Rob & Amber, and The Oldsters in the final three...


i said the exact same thing to my g/f about Joyce...

As for what I would like to see happen..

I'm torn.. Part of the problem is I've never watched before, so I do not know how the end works.. but I'm a little said that there is not a chance of drama between the gay guys and Rob/Amber in the finals.... but Rob/Amber and Kelly/Ron seems to have the biggest chance for getting ugly in the end...


In the long run, I root for Rob/Amber.

gstelmack
04-21-2005, 09:20 AM
If I was Ron I would drop that bitch as soon as the race was over. A comment like that is way over the top.
I'm going to hold off until I see context and his reaction (like is this some sort of inside joke), but that comment sure sounds pretty darn unforgivable without some sort of major pennance on her part (and I'm not talking about the Franklinnoble kind of pennance, I mean a real honest-to-goodness heartfelt apology).

jbmagic
04-21-2005, 11:31 AM
I've noticed that more than one leg this season has not had a trip. I believe the leg that Lynn/Alex won they didn't get one either.


it seems only when Amber and Rob win the leg, they get a trip, others dont.

EagleFan
04-21-2005, 11:38 AM
it seems only when Amber and Rob win the leg, they get a trip, others dont.


This has been the only leg without a reward. Lynn and Alex got a trip, to Aruba I believe, the female team got a cash prize, I think one team got cars. This has been the only week without a trip (or was there a prize but due to some sort of contractual thing was it just not shown).

TazFTW
04-21-2005, 11:39 AM
This has been the only leg without a reward. Lynn and Alex got a trip, to Aruba I believe, the female team got a cash prize, I think one team got cars. This has been the only week without a trip (or was there a prize but due to some sort of contractual thing was it just not shown).
Not true. This was like the second or third time it has happened this season.

jbmagic
04-21-2005, 11:53 AM
This has been the only leg without a reward. Lynn and Alex got a trip, to Aruba I believe, the female team got a cash prize, I think one team got cars. This has been the only week without a trip (or was there a prize but due to some sort of contractual thing was it just not shown).

Rob and Amber got like 3 trips so far.

EagleFan
04-21-2005, 12:07 PM
Leg One: Debbie and Bianca $10,000 each
Leg Two: Rob and Amber trip
Leg Three: Lynn and Alex trip
Leg Four: Rob and Amber trip
Leg Five: Ron and Kelly trip
Leg Six: Rob and Amber trip
Long Leg Seven: Uchenna and Joyce nothing?

Only episode 7 which was the first part of leg seven had no reward because it was not the end of a leg.

Lathum
04-21-2005, 12:13 PM
Was anyone else annoyed at the fact that the entire show from the previous week was completely pointless? They raced the whole week just to get to a train where they had to wait to get on and all the teams began even again. Stupid, utterly stupid to the point of where I didn’t even want to watch anymore. I though the object of a race was to be rewarded for having the lead, not having to stop and let everyone catch up.

That being said, Gretchen is an annoying, whiney moron. WTF was she thinking riding on the 600lb elephant they are trying to push? She reminds me of a bad Saturday night live character.

I hope Rob and Amber win. They work awesome together and are by far the most entertaining.

Wolfpack
04-21-2005, 12:42 PM
If you've watch Amazing Race enough, just about every leg at some point will curiously "develop" a bottleneck so that all the teams cluster again. Usually, it happens within the first couple of clues of a leg, simply because leaders typically are departing in the dark and the clue is on the other side of some business or museum door that has to be opened in the morning. It's almost predictable.

On the one hand, I understand that it would make better TV if a race didn't turn into a romp by, say, the third or fourth leg, but it does seem to imply to me that the best way to win the race is not to go recklessly hard because the "racing" is rather pointless. The races are usually won or lost in how quickly teams complete tasks more than trying to get from point A to point B, though there are incentives for early arrivals, such as getting tickets on an earlier flight or bus. Usually, those sorts of things get evened out and if you play smartly, rather than quickly, you should still be able to contend without serious risk of injury from trying to get somewhere in a hurry.

TazFTW
04-21-2005, 01:03 PM
Leg One: Debbie and Bianca $10,000 each
Leg Two: Rob and Amber trip
Leg Three: Lynn and Alex trip
Leg Four: Rob and Amber trip
Leg Five: Ron and Kelly trip
Leg Six: Rob and Amber trip
Long Leg Seven: Uchenna and Joyce nothing?

Only episode 7 which was the first part of leg seven had no reward because it was not the end of a leg.
Don't know where you got that list from but I remember watching the episode where Lynn and Alex won and they did not show Phil giving them a prize. I remember this because I post at the weekly Amazing Race thread at DVD Talk and there was a discussion about this. It is backed up by Tvtome.com's recap



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The teams receive a clue telling them to travel 150 miles from their Pit Stop in Saro, Santo Lucia to a bridge in Argentina. Spurred by a warning about an upcoming Yield, the teams finagle for transportation, with one team earning hostility by snatching another team's cab. The teams make their way to Nortes Sur and one team goes dangerously off-track. Eventually, the teams reach both the Yield (which none choose to use) and a Detour: Paddle or Pedal. Most teams choose Paddle, which involves rafting seven miles with professionals, but one falls behind after getting a flat tire while doing the biking task --- Pedal. Later, the teams reach a Roadblock that involves eating four pounds of traditional Argentine food. One team-member, feeling that there's no way he can complete this, decides to take a four-hour penalty, and then convinces others to do it as well. It comes down once again to a rather close and somewhat surprising finish.
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NOTE: The teams finished in the following order: #1. Lynn and Alex. #2. Uchenna and Joyce. #3. Brian and Greg. #4. Ron and Kelly. #5. Rob and Amber. #6. Ray and Deana. #7. Meredith and Gretchen. #8. Susan and Patrick. #9. Debbie and Bianca (ELIMINATED) There was no Fast Forward available in this episode. The first of three Yields was made available in this episode, but no team chose to use it.
This episode is the first time in at least a couple seasons that a prize was not awarded to the team finishing first on anything other than the final legs.
This episode features the first instance where a team choses not complete a Roadblock task as a strategy and then attempts to and successfully convinces other teams to follow suit. The new procedure is that a team that quits a task takes a four-hour penalty that begins once another team arrives at the task.
During his opening prattle, Phil does not make the usual reference to teams having to "solve clues found in sealed envelopes."
Phil does not mention what time Rob & Amber arrived at the previous episode's Pit Stop, which he normally does for the first team to leave the Pit Stop at the beginning of a new leg. It is normally 12 hours before they leave, but some possible time penalities or credits might have been given to the team, although no explanation is given. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Your list is also missing Ray and Deena winning two Rav4s. This also lists Ron and Kelly winning nothing.



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In a two-hour episode, the teams travel from the Pit Stop at a polo club called The Martina to Johannesburg, South Africa. Once there, they take part in a Detour that involves either rappelling into and then searching an underground cavern or collecting five items and giving them to the appropriate tribes. Later, the teams do a Roadblock that requires them to search a market for five items and then deliver them to a local orphanage. As the teams race to complete these tasks, one pulls ahead with a Fast Forward, while one team-member suffers a nasty injury. It ends up being a tight finish, but all teams continue onwards for the next leg. This leg sees the teams traveling to a nature reserve, where they one of two scheduled shuttles and feed lions. Later, the Roadblock involves throwing spears. Afterwards, the teams ride Humvees and choose between a Detour task of grinding corn or filling ostrich eggs with water. One team crashes their vehicle and falls behind, but the race to the Pit Stop is very close, culminating in a tense foot-race.
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NOTE: The teams finished in the following order in the first leg of this episode: #1. Ray and Deana (Fast Forward, Prize: Two 2005 Toyota RAV4s) #2. Ron and Kelly. #3. Brian and Greg. #4. Lynn and Alex. #5. Rob and Amber. #6. Uchenna and Joyce. #7. Meredith and Gretchen (Stripped of possessions, receive no money for next leg) The teams finished in the following order in the second leg of this episode: #1. Ron and Kelly. #2. Rob and Amber. #3. Uchenna and Joyce. #4. Lynn and Alex. #5. Meredith and Gretchen. #6. Brian and Greg. #7. Ray and Deana (ELIMINATED) The first of two Fast Forwards was made available and it was used by Ray and Deana. Rob and Amber also tried to go for the Fast Forward, but were unable to complete it because Ray and Deana successfully completed the Fast Forward Chance. There was no Yield available on either leg of this episode. Only one has previously been available --- on the third leg --- but it was not used.
This special episode of The Amazing Race was two hours long and covered Legs 5 and 6.
This is the first episode in which cars were awarded as a prize for finishing first in a leg. This episode also introduced a new penalty for finishing in last on a non-elimination leg --- complete stripping of everything except passports and the clothes the team is currenly wearing, plus no money received for the next leg.
This is the first time previews are shown of the next two episodes, as Phil describes the next week's normal episode and special Wednesday recap/unseen footage episode (using the standard "On the next episode of The Amazing Race..." for the standard episode and using "And on a special episode, one week from tomorrow night..." for the recap episode's description).
According to The New York Times, this episode scored the highest ratings for the series in three years.
As some have noted, Phil makes a point of telling Meredith and Gretchen that they must start the leg with no money, which means that they can't beg for funds during their allotted eight hour Pit Stop time.
Phil told USA Today about taking everything of Meredith and Gretchen's possesions after her accident, "That was the meanest thing I've ever done on TV," Keoghan says. "She's got this huge cut on her head, and I take everything." </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

jbmagic
04-21-2005, 01:09 PM
Leg One: Debbie and Bianca $10,000 each
Leg Two: Rob and Amber trip
Leg Three: Lynn and Alex trip
Leg Four: Rob and Amber trip
Leg Five: Ron and Kelly trip
Leg Six: Rob and Amber trip
Long Leg Seven: Uchenna and Joyce nothing?

Only episode 7 which was the first part of leg seven had no reward because it was not the end of a leg.


Ron and Kelly leg five did not win a trip. they won nothing.

EagleFan
04-21-2005, 03:05 PM
I'm near 100% certain that Lynn and Alex won a trip because of a comment that I made to my wife about not wanting to know what is going on in THAT hotel room. Maybe it's in my imagination. Either way, I wanted to see Uchena and Joyce win a trip. I would like to see them to win the whole thing.

Oh well, however it boils down, I'm not winning a trip so I guess it doesn't have the same impact on me. ;)

General Mike
04-26-2005, 09:07 PM
Good episode tonight IMO. Go Rob and Amber.

gstelmack
04-26-2005, 09:08 PM
Good episode tonight IMO. Go Rob and Amber.
Rob's cockiness almost cost him. Good thing he kept Ron and Kelly close enough that he could beat them...

General Mike
04-26-2005, 09:23 PM
Is next week the season finale?

henry296
04-26-2005, 10:23 PM
2 more weeks. Season finale is May 10... 2 hours

TazFTW
04-27-2005, 12:06 AM
That didn't turn out that bad for Ron and Kelly. They'll get better fed and have a better rest than at the pit stop and if you're going to have to beg for money, the Four Seasons is a good place to beg at.

gstelmack
04-27-2005, 08:32 AM
That didn't turn out that bad for Ron and Kelly. They'll get better fed and have a better rest than at the pit stop and if you're going to have to beg for money, the Four Seasons is a good place to beg at.
Except that they were told they had to START the leg with no money. Phil made sure to point that out and emphasized it. In other words, no begging at the Four Seasons.

Subby
04-27-2005, 08:47 AM
I thought for sure Gretchen wouldn't be able to do the climbing roadblock...be interesting to see how close Rob and Amber are to the first two teams when they start next week.

rafini
04-27-2005, 09:48 AM
Except that they were told they had to START the leg with no money. Phil made sure to point that out and emphasized it. In other words, no begging at the Four Seasons.

What they need to do is just get people set up to give them money as soon as the race starts. They can spend their down time getting everything set up, then they won' t lose any time once the race starts. People will wait around to give them money because it's a chance for them to get on TV.

gstelmack
04-27-2005, 12:27 PM
What they need to do is just get people set up to give them money as soon as the race starts. They can spend their down time getting everything set up, then they won' t lose any time once the race starts. People will wait around to give them money because it's a chance for them to get on TV.
If they can get all those people with them to the starting line, that would be a great move on their part.

jbmagic
05-05-2005, 09:53 PM
Rob and Amber is in the final 3. i hope they win.

i surprise others dont ask the locals to help them out like Ron and Amber does.

i think next season they need to make a new rule, that you cant ask anyone for help. you have to find your way around on your own.

gstelmack
05-06-2005, 06:46 AM
Rob and Amber is in the final 3. i hope they win.

i surprise others dont ask the locals to help them out like Ron and Amber does.

i think next season they need to make a new rule, that you cant ask anyone for help. you have to find your way around on your own.
Never work. You need to at least be able to ask for directions. And other teams have received help, they're just not bold enough to ask most of the time. Jonathan (of Jonathan and Victoria fame) was good at this tactic as well, even though it didn't help him win.

BrianD
05-06-2005, 08:46 AM
Was anyone else annoyed at the fact that the entire show from the previous week was completely pointless? They raced the whole week just to get to a train where they had to wait to get on and all the teams began even again. Stupid, utterly stupid to the point of where I didn’t even want to watch anymore. I though the object of a race was to be rewarded for having the lead, not having to stop and let everyone catch up.


In one of the earlier seasons, they didn't have all of these catch-up points. This left one team in a different country when the winning team crossed the finish line. I don't think they were a whole pit-stop behind, but they were certainly still in a different country. I remember somebody stopping the team during a challenge because the race was already over.

I'm sure this is the reason they always have a catch-up point in every race. Really, every episode is a new race. It doesn't tend to matter how you did before, you just have to keep avoiding last place.

stkelly52
05-06-2005, 09:50 AM
In one of the earlier seasons, they didn't have all of these catch-up points. This left one team in a different country when the winning team crossed the finish line. I don't think they were a whole pit-stop behind, but they were certainly still in a different country. I remember somebody stopping the team during a challenge because the race was already over.

I'm sure this is the reason they always have a catch-up point in every race. Really, every episode is a new race. It doesn't tend to matter how you did before, you just have to keep avoiding last place.

That was during the first season, and they did still have all of the equilizers. One of the teams wound up falling 24 hours behind though (after taking the fast forward no less), Once you are 24 hours behind you can never catch up.

Wolfpack
05-06-2005, 10:02 AM
Is this the first time the race has actually retrograded in its course? Usually, they go one way around the world (with a lot of north-southing), but this is the first time I can recall them going halfway out, then looping back rather than going further. Judging by the preview, it looks like they're going to the Caribbean next leg, followed by the wind-up leg in the US.

gstelmack
05-06-2005, 10:22 AM
Is this the first time the race has actually retrograded in its course? Usually, they go one way around the world (with a lot of north-southing), but this is the first time I can recall them going halfway out, then looping back rather than going further. Judging by the preview, it looks like they're going to the Caribbean next leg, followed by the wind-up leg in the US.
I noticed the same thing. They got to India, then turned around. Maybe the tsunami made it difficult to find another destination travelling in that direction?

Wolfpack
05-06-2005, 10:27 AM
I wouldn't think so. They could have had a leg in China or Japan or Australia and been fine.

jbmagic
05-11-2005, 02:48 AM
Wow the final was great.

anybody see the season Final?

Rob and Amber lost. i was hoping they win it all. they came in 2nd.

Barkeep49
05-11-2005, 06:56 AM
Well it looks like the bettors were right again. It was a somewhat enjoyable final, but just a bit too much bunching at the end for my liking. Glad that Ron and Kelly lost and am happy for Uchina and Joyce who grew on me over the course of the show, but I too was rooting for Rob and Amber.

Jon
05-11-2005, 08:26 AM
I noticed the same thing. They got to India, then turned around. Maybe the tsunami made it difficult to find another destination travelling in that direction?

The tsunami happened after they stopped filming (December 24), so I really don't know why they did it this way either.

I thought Rob and Amber had the best strategy until the end, when they didn't use their own tactics. If this were based on overall performance throughout the race, then they deserved to win. But, it's not. I'm glad Joyce and Uchenna won. They were deserving.

Flasch186
05-11-2005, 08:47 AM
Well it looks like the bettors were right again. It was a somewhat enjoyable final, but just a bit too much bunching at the end for my liking. Glad that Ron and Kelly lost and am happy for Uchina and Joyce who grew on me over the course of the show, but I too was rooting for Rob and Amber.


what was even better is that they started the race on the verge of a divorce and now, becuase of this race, they couldn't be stronger...and will have an awesome life. That is a great story.

gstelmack
05-11-2005, 08:51 AM
I thought Rob and Amber had the best strategy until the end, when they didn't use their own tactics. If this were based on overall performance throughout the race, then they deserved to win. But, it's not. I'm glad Joyce and Uchenna won. They were deserving.
Yeah, Rob and Amber looked set, but did not have ANY luck finding someone to help them in Miami. Uchenna and Joyce got the two HUGE breaks (the airline letting them on the flight, and a cabbie who knew the Cuban community), but the thing I'll remember most is Uchenna doing the right thing and making sure the cabbie got paid, even if it was going to cost him a million dollars (and almost did). They are a great story.

And apparently Rob and Amber are having their wedding plans televised, so I don't think they're coming out of this too empty-handed http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

Flasch186
05-11-2005, 09:02 AM
Yeah, Rob and Amber looked set, but did not have ANY luck finding someone to help them in Miami. Uchenna and Joyce got the two HUGE breaks (the airline letting them on the flight, and a cabbie who knew the Cuban community), but the thing I'll remember most is Uchenna doing the right thing and making sure the cabbie got paid, even if it was going to cost him a million dollars (and almost did). They are a great story.

And apparently Rob and Amber are having their wedding plans televised, so I don't think they're coming out of this too empty-handed http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif


I thought that they had to pay the cabbie before moving on, couldnt steal or something like that.

Wolfpack
05-11-2005, 09:13 AM
That was a tough thing to do, I'm sure. I'd have been saying, "Hey, man, let me do this one thing right quick. If you hear some loud cheering, you know I'm good for a million dollars."

Also, something about the last-second boarding of the plane bothered me. I can't help but feel there was something odd about it. If Rob and Amber had gotten away, they would have had a two-hour head start and would have won going away. Not something ideal for ratings, particularly as Rob and Amber are a polarizing couple. I can't suggest anything underhanded on CBS's part, mind you, because I wouldn't know how CBS could influence things, but it just seemed terribly odd to have the American workers tell Uchenna and Joyce "No, you can't, it's too late," "No, you can't, it's too late," "Oh, wait, yes, you can get on the plane."

Regardless, I am glad they won anyway, if only after reading this little blurb in a news article this morning:

Uchenna, an energy broker who once worked for Enron, and Joyce, a sales manager who once worked for WorldCom, plan to use their earnings for "bills, bills, bills" and to take their family on their own amazing trip. The Agus, who've tried unsuccessfully to have a child in the past, also said they would use their $1 million prize toward a baby.


How unfortunate do you have to be in life to be employed by two of the biggest disasters of the tech bubble?

gstelmack
05-11-2005, 09:30 AM
I thought that they had to pay the cabbie before moving on, couldnt steal or something like that.
That would be a new rule. They've had near fights in the past over how much a cab ride should have been, and have left cabbies who thought they were stiffed. Uchenna said some things that made it clear he was going to do the right thing by the guy.

rafini
05-11-2005, 09:38 AM
Also, something about the last-second boarding of the plane bothered me. I can't help but feel there was something odd about it. If Rob and Amber had gotten away, they would have had a two-hour head start and would have won going away. Not something ideal for ratings, particularly as Rob and Amber are a polarizing couple. I can't suggest anything underhanded on CBS's part, mind you, because I wouldn't know how CBS could influence things, but it just seemed terribly odd to have the American workers tell Uchenna and Joyce "No, you can't, it's too late," "No, you can't, it's too late," "Oh, wait, yes, you can get on the plane."

I thought the exact same thing. As soon as that happened I said the show's producers probably pulled every string they had to get Uchenna and Joyce on that plane so there would be a race to the finish.

Barkeep49
05-11-2005, 10:01 AM
what was even better is that they started the race on the verge of a divorce and now, becuase of this race, they couldn't be stronger...and will have an awesome life. That is a great story.

I know they said this, it's just so hard for me to believe. There's no doubt they grew together over the course of the race, but I'm just amazed as even at the beginning they worked together more than I would expect from a team on the rocks. Look at Deanna and whatever her jerk's name was; they clearly were a team on the rocks and it showed. All around, U&J are a lovely story.

As for the flight, I wouldn't have been suspcious at all if it weren't American who as we know from the rewards are a sponsor of the show. Now I have to admit that I find that a little suspicious.

jbmagic
05-11-2005, 10:30 AM
Rob and Amber key mistake was not finding the place for Amber to jump into the water.

LloydLungs
05-11-2005, 10:56 AM
Rob and Amber key mistake was not finding the place for Amber to jump into the water.

Naah, that didn't matter -- they still got to the airport first, and with all the bunching going on, none of the tasks really mattered much. I don't like bunching, but I understand the need for it *between* legs for dramatic purposes, to ensure that no team opens up a multiple day lead. However, MID-LEG bunching completely screws with the integrity of the race. What was the point of watching everyone go through that onion task? What was the point of watching everyone go through the golf task?? They were all going to be bunched up at the end of the day no matter how far they fell behind on those tasks! It's a complete waste of my time.

This was my first season watching TAR and will be my last. It's a neat concept for a show and extremely interesting from a travel perspective, but the excessive mid-leg bunching ruins it, especially the ending. Basically the whole season came down to who got the smarter cabbie on the ride from the Miami airport. Stupid.

ShaqFu
05-11-2005, 11:23 AM
I'm sure could they have crossed the finish line and went back to pay the cabbie. Heck, I would have invited the cabbie to go to the finish with us and than when I got my million, I would have asked for an advance.

I'm just glad they won. They were the most gracious team throughout and showed more class than any of them.

The bunching doesn't bother me. If they were spread out too much, the show would be a bore. Keep in mind, that teams probably aren't as close as they appear. I remember hearing that the show is edited for effect.

As to the airline thing, I think if you begged and cried enough, they would let you board. I've had airlines do strange things for me in the past.

NAIWF
05-11-2005, 12:56 PM
I thought the exact same thing. As soon as that happened I said the show's producers probably pulled every string they had to get Uchenna and Joyce on that plane so there would be a race to the finish.

Add me to the list of people who believes that the producers (inadvertantly) gave Uchenna & Joyce the million with this decision. As soon as they showed Rob & Amber celebrating on the plane, and then the woman saying she'd talk to the pilot I felt that the producers flexed their muscles a bit in order to have the race be somewhat close at the end. I also hated the way that a 7 hour deficit on the final leg could easily be made up at the checkpoint where they all had to wait until the morning to continue. There's really no incentive to get a huge lead on the show most times. Having said all of that, I was happy that the right team won the money.

Kodos
05-11-2005, 01:18 PM
I'm sure could they have crossed the finish line and went back to pay the cabbie. Heck, I would have invited the cabbie to go to the finish with us and than when I got my million, I would have asked for an advance.

I'm just glad they won. They were the most gracious team throughout and showed more class than any of them.

The bunching doesn't bother me. If they were spread out too much, the show would be a bore. Keep in mind, that teams probably aren't as close as they appear. I remember hearing that the show is edited for effect.

As to the airline thing, I think if you begged and cried enough, they would let you board. I've had airlines do strange things for me in the past.


I think the presence of cameras probably had a lot to do with the airline allowing them on. Free good publicity.

Jon
05-11-2005, 02:24 PM
With respect to Joyce and Uchenna getting on the plane, I've actually been on several flights when the gangway was pulled back toward the plane, primarily when there are empty seats. So, the good publicity, coupled with the extra cash, that may be why they did it.

EagleFan
05-11-2005, 11:48 PM
Glad to see them win it. Wanted Rob and Amber in untli the end for entertainment but did not want them to win another million. I can't see the producers putting pressure for them to get on the plane. Too big of a risk for negative publicity that could have the potential to kill the entire show. Who wouldn't believe that Rob would sue if he got the slightest sniff of that happening? Add the extremely negative press and it could be lights out for the show, which would be a shame.

wade moore
05-12-2005, 08:59 AM
Put me in the camp that was very irritated with the bunching..

We're on the final leg, with the three final teams... and the only task that mattered was the cigar task... and perhaps getting the flight to miami... beyond that, nothing else mattered... the bunch at the gate just ruined this episode to me...

stkelly52
05-12-2005, 09:47 AM
You know, TAR has been one of my favorite shows, but it seems like every season they have a HUGE amount of bunching in the final leg, and it ruins what should be the best episode. I don't know that I will watch another season.

Lathum
05-12-2005, 05:13 PM
This show is stupid! It is the first season I have watched it and it is so fixed it is ridiculous. They used Rob and Amber for ratings plain and simple. Every time they fell too far behind somehow they got help. Every time they got to far ahead the show found a way to let everyone catch up. Then in the end they fuck them over and let Joyce and her husband on the plane so Rob and Amber wouldn’t win because CBS didn’t want the bad publicity from Rob and Amber winning. Total bullshit.

stkelly52
05-12-2005, 05:24 PM
I think that it is a huge stretch to say that it was fixed in Rob & Amber's favor. Quite simply, Rob was good a getting people to help him. Other people have done that in the past, but they were better at it than anyone else. Part of that is the fame that they had from Survivor, part of it is the fact that Rob is a very likable person (when he is not competing against you), and part of it is that Rob was willing to ask for help from strangers.

As for it being fixed to not let Rob & Amber get too far ahead, that is true, but not just for them. That was true for everyone. They like the race to be close and they don't want to let anyone get too much of a lead, so it is designed to equalize them all every leg.

Joe
05-12-2005, 05:45 PM
anyone else think it was funny that Rob kept saying they'd win the race because "they won survivor"? Neither he or Amber won survivor on their original seasons, and only Amber won it on All-Stars. He didn't win anything.