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bosshogg23

03-22-2005, 03:15 PM

rkmsuf

03-22-2005, 03:17 PM

Aren't many good 7 footers these days. I'll bet he's decent as a pro.

MacroGuru

03-22-2005, 03:18 PM

The kid can pass....he can move.....

He honestly has to work on his strength, but that will come in time..

He will be good in the NBA.

Suicane75

03-22-2005, 03:20 PM

Aren't many good 7 footers these days. I'll bet he's decent as a pro.

Hasn't this been said about 1 or 2 guys every year since about 1988?

rkmsuf

03-22-2005, 03:21 PM

Hasn't this been said about 1 or 2 guys every year since about 1988?

dis guy da bomb.

He good.

SirFozzie

03-22-2005, 03:21 PM

I'm sorry, Andrew Bogut should be stripped of his prize immediately. After all it is the AP All American Team.. and the goit's an Aussie!

JasonC23

03-22-2005, 03:58 PM

I'm amused that only two of the players on the first team are actually still playing.

Joe

03-22-2005, 04:00 PM

I'll bet he has a future playing in Slovenia with Rick Rickert.

Blackadar

03-22-2005, 04:01 PM

Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2019118)

Andrew Bogut was the leading vote-getter for the AP All American Team this year.

Seriously if this guy goes pro isnt he just replacing Cherokee Parks as the tall weird looking white guys who stinks as a pro in the NBA?

He's a heckuva lot better than Parks ever was.

Parks, during his Senior year, averaged 19 PPG and 9 RPG with 1.4 blocks and 1.5 assists.

Bogut, in his Sophmore year, averaged 20 PPG, 12 RPG, 2 blocks and 2.4 assists.

So my guess is that he will, at the very least, be a servicable NBA center. No one ever thought Parks would be.

Cringer

03-22-2005, 04:03 PM

racists! white guys can play ball just as good as the black man! stop hatin' :D

kurtism

03-22-2005, 04:08 PM

He's a heckuva lot better than Parks ever was.

Parks, during his Senior year, averaged 19 PPG and 9 RPG with 1.4 blocks and 1.5 assists.

Bogut, in his Sophmore year, averaged 20 PPG, 12 RPG, 2 blocks and 2.4 assists.

So my guess is that he will, at the very least, be a servicable NBA center. No one ever thought Parks would be.

Without disputing your contention that Bogut >> Parks, it is worth noting that Bogut played Mountain West teams and Parks played in the ACC. The calibre of competition might have been a tad different.

Joe

03-22-2005, 04:12 PM

the difference in stats is negligable

MacroGuru

03-22-2005, 04:32 PM

Without disputing your contention that Bogut >> Parks, it is worth noting that Bogut played Mountain West teams and Parks played in the ACC. The calibre of competition might have been a tad different.

He also got his stint at the Summer Games playing for the Australian national team..

Poli

03-22-2005, 04:33 PM

bosshogg23

03-22-2005, 04:35 PM

Shawn I think. Ya he is a great tall weird looking white guy who stinks as a pro in the NBA. Sadly I forgot about him.

Easily could have a thread on funny looking people in the NBA. It certainly wouldnt have to be just white people, hellllllllooooooooo Sam Cassell :D

MacroGuru

03-22-2005, 04:38 PM

Shawn I think. Ya he is a great tall weird looking white guy who stinks as a pro in the NBA. Sadly I forgot about him.

Sadly enough, the last 2 (Shawn and now Bogut) are coming out of Utah colleges.

At least Rafa looks mean....(oh, and he is Brazilian, I think)

sooner333

03-22-2005, 04:47 PM

Four Words: The Next Chris Mihm.

bosshogg23

03-22-2005, 04:50 PM

Four Words: The Next Chris Mihm.

*sigh* He is on one of my fantasy teams. I am shockingly in 8th place.

JeeberD

03-22-2005, 04:54 PM

I saw too much of Bogut last week, and the kid can play. He looked like an amazing passer, had very good low post moves, and hit at least a couple of threes on us.

I think he'll have a very nice pro career...

VPI97

03-22-2005, 04:58 PM

The fact is that he will get picked by the Hawks.

As a result, he will stink and the Hawks will continue to suck.

Blackadar

03-22-2005, 05:14 PM

the difference in stats is negligable

5% more points, 25% more rebounds, 25% more blocks and almost 40% more assists isn't negligible. You can say he didn't play the same level of competition, but you can't say the stats aren't more impressive. Of course, he also did this as a sophmore vs. Parks as a senior.

st.cronin

03-22-2005, 05:15 PM

If he was really an exciting prospect, we wouldn't be comparing him to Cherokee Parks.

Blackadar

03-22-2005, 05:32 PM

If he was really an exciting prospect, we wouldn't be comparing him to Cherokee Parks.

Maybe you're right and maybe you're wrong.

This guy seems to be much more aware and fluid than parks. Parks was known as a stiff even back in college. In a way, he reminds me of a poor-man's Tim Duncan - not that he'll be anywhere near the play Duncan is.

rexallllsc

03-22-2005, 06:22 PM

Without disputing your contention that Bogut >> Parks, it is worth noting that Bogut played Mountain West teams and Parks played in the ACC. The calibre of competition might have been a tad different.

You could also say PArks had a better surrounding cast.

rexallllsc

03-22-2005, 06:24 PM

BTW, to everyone who is doubting him, check out his highlights this year. He'll probably be a top 5 pick, so we're not the only ones impressed.

Mr. Wednesday

03-22-2005, 07:23 PM

I've seen a comparison to Arvydas Sabonis, probably because of his passing.

mgadfly

03-22-2005, 07:29 PM

There is no sure thing, but from what I've seen I think he will make a very good pro player. He has all the tools and is strong in the post (someone thinks he needs to get stronger, and more strength couldn't help, but he already has superior strength to most of the other post men his age).

I don't see the big guys out east as much (except the ACC which plays a lot of games on FSN) but from what I've seen he'd be near the top of my draft board.

Easy Mac

03-22-2005, 10:04 PM

You could also say PArks had a better surrounding cast.
uhhh, this is your better surrounding cast?
Jeff Capel - So. (12.5 ppg)
Trajan Langdon - Fr. (11.3)
Erik Meek - Sr. (10.2)
Ricky Price - Fr. (8.1)
Kenny Blakeney - Sr. (5.4)
Steve Wojciechowski - Fr. (4.0)
Greg Newton - So. (4.0)
Chris Collins - Jr. (3.9)
Tony Moore - Jr. (2.7)
Carmen Wallace - So. (2.4)
Todd Singleton - Fr. (0.0)

Sublime 2

03-22-2005, 10:26 PM

Steve Wojciechowski - Fr. (4.0)

BRING BACK WOJO!
Is he an assistant for Coach K now?

BishopMVP

03-23-2005, 01:40 AM

Stick Nikoloz Tskitishvili, Darko Milicic, Frederic Weis, Robert Swift in the Mountain West Conference and they'd probably average 20 and 12 too. Watching his 2nd round game the announcers were ridiculous. Paraprashing - "Well, he's 1-6 from the field, has like 5 rebounds and a block, but 3 assists and HIS MERE PRESENCE IS WINNING THE GAME FOR UTAH!!!!" or "X misses an 18-footer. I really think he was blinded by the halo above Bogut's head there."

Somebody will pick him in the lottery, and he will have a journeyman career. If he's picked over Chris Paul or Marvin Williams I will laugh my ass off. Probably some HS'ers better prospects too.

HomerJSimpson

03-23-2005, 07:03 AM

"X misses an 18-footer. I really think he was blinded by the halo above Bogut's head there."

I don't really have an opinion on the subject, but that was a good line. Bravo.

JeeberD

03-23-2005, 09:32 AM

uhhh, this is your better surrounding cast?

Have you seen Utah's other players numbers?

MacroGuru

03-23-2005, 09:45 AM

uhhh, this is your better surrounding cast?
Jeff Capel - So. (12.5 ppg)
Trajan Langdon - Fr. (11.3)
Erik Meek - Sr. (10.2)
Ricky Price - Fr. (8.1)
Kenny Blakeney - Sr. (5.4)
Steve Wojciechowski - Fr. (4.0)
Greg Newton - So. (4.0)
Chris Collins - Jr. (3.9)
Tony Moore - Jr. (2.7)
Carmen Wallace - So. (2.4)
Todd Singleton - Fr. (0.0)

How many of these guys went on to play some in the NBA or overseas?

Right now, I don't see anyone else from the Ute Squad going on much further other than Bogut. But then again, I am not an NBA scout.

Havok

03-23-2005, 10:34 AM

I've seen Bogut play twice on T.V. From what i saw, he moves EXTEREMLY well for a 7 footer, he looks much stronger then Yao already, he can shoot from anywhere and he's an excellent passer for a big man. Now im in noway a basketball expert, but he impressed me. I think writing him off just cause he's big and white is a mistake.

mhass

03-23-2005, 01:45 PM

I am not informed enough to state it, but it seems very rare that a team would go 30-1 or whatever Illinois is and not get a 1st team All-American. Have the other runaway #1 team's like UNLV, Loyola Marymount, Duke, etc. not been represented in this award?

JeeberD

03-23-2005, 01:47 PM

Runaway #1 team Loyola Marymount? Huh?

Back when they were good in the late eighties I don't think they ever got past the mid-teens (if that high)...

mhass

03-23-2005, 01:49 PM

Runaway #1 team Loyola Marymount? Huh?

Back when they were good in the late eighties I don't think they ever got past the mid-teens (if that high)...
Kansas then. Same difference.

bosshogg23

03-23-2005, 01:51 PM

Larry Johnson was definitely All American at UNLV.

Laettner, Bobby Hurley, G. Hill at Duke(im sure more).

Emeka Okafur of UCONN was last year.

Mateen Cleaves at Michigan State was as well I believe.

bosshogg23

03-23-2005, 01:52 PM

It doesnt seem too common to have a great record like Illinois and not have an All-American. Im sure it has happened though.

Mr. Wednesday

03-23-2005, 02:45 PM

Was anybody from St. Joe's selected last year?

henry296

03-23-2005, 02:46 PM

Was anybody from St. Joe's selected last year?

I think Jameer Nelson was 1st team last year. He was numerous people's POY.

Bomber

03-23-2005, 02:49 PM

He's going to be a Top 3 pick, most people think number 1. He can pass, rebound, shoot. This is as close to Sabonis in his prime as we've ever seen.

Bomber

03-23-2005, 02:55 PM

He averaged 14.8 points and 8.8 rebounds in the Olympics. The guy can play. He went for 11 and 8 against the United States, when he was matched up against Tim Duncan, and he's only improved since then.

rexallllsc

03-23-2005, 03:03 PM

kurtism

03-23-2005, 03:15 PM

Tracking the All-American discussion, while Illinois didn't have a first-teamer, they did have two second-teamers and one third-teamer... Not too shabby a performance, if you ask me.

Groundhog

03-23-2005, 05:37 PM

I'm an Aussie so I may be slightly biased… but let's also remember Bogut tore up the u/21s Internationals. He won't be a star in the NBA, but I think he'll be good for double-figure scoring and near double-figure rebounding as a pro.

But then, who really cares, the NBA is a god-awful boring league. I hope he stinks it up in the NBA and is lured back to Australia by an AU$80,000 contract to play in our pro league over here… :)

JeeberD

03-23-2005, 11:02 PM

How is former UTEP Miner Luke Martin doing back down under? :)

21C

03-24-2005, 06:38 AM

How is former UTEP Miner Luke Martin doing back down under? :)
He just finished the season with the Sydney Kings who won their third consecutive championship.
http://www.nbl.com.au/default.aspx?s=kings_playerprofile&profile=68

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align="center">9</td><td align="center">10</td><td align="center">8</td><td align="center">8</td><td align="center"></td><td align="center">2</td><td align="center">6</td><td align="center">24</td><td align="center">1</td><td align="center">1</td><td align="center">3</td></tr><tr class="b1"><td> 2005</td><td></td><td>Sydney</td><td align="center">5</td><td align="center">34</td><td align="center">12</td><td align="center">35%</td><td align="center">15</td><td align="center">3</td><td align="center">20%</td><td align="center">20</td><td align="center">12</td><td align="center">60%</td><td align="center">2</td><td align="center">13</td><td align="center">15</td><td align="center">15</td><td align="center">21</td><td align="center">1</td><td align="center">2</td><td align="center">16</td><td align="center">39</td><td align="center">3</td><td align="center">4</td><td align="center">8</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#000000"><td colspan="7"><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td><td colspan="3"><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td><td colspan="3"><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td><td colspan="3"><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td><td colspan="5"><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td><td colspan="3"><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td></tr><tr class="b1"><td align="center" colspan="3"> </td><td align="center">12</td><td align="center">59</td><td align="center">20</td><td align="center">34%</td><td align="center">25</td><td align="center">7</td><td align="center">28%</td><td align="center">28</td><td align="center">16</td><td align="center">57%</td><td align="center">3</td><td align="center">22</td><td align="center">25</td><td align="center">23</td><td align="center">29</td><td align="center">1</td><td align="center">4</td><td align="center">22</td><td align="center">63</td><td align="center">2.0</td><td align="center">2.5</td><td align="center">5.5</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#000000"><td colspan="33"><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td></tr><tr><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="1" height="10" /></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#000000"><td rowspan="2"><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="32" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="5" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="10" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="32" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="32" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="32" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="42" height="1" /></td><td rowspan="2"><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="32" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="32" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="42" height="1" /></td><td rowspan="2"><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="32" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="32" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="42" height="1" /></td><td rowspan="2"><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="32" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="32" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="32" height="1" /></td><td rowspan="2"><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="32" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="32" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="32" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="32" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="32" height="1" /></td><td rowspan="2"><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="32" height="1" /></td><td rowspan="2"><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="42" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="42" height="1" /></td><td><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="42" height="1" /></td><td rowspan="2"><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td></tr><tr class="b1"><td align="center" colspan="3">CAREER</td><td align="center">96</td><td align="center">527</td><td align="center">219</td><td align="center">42%</td><td align="center">193</td><td align="center">70</td><td align="center">36%</td><td align="center">176</td><td align="center">117</td><td align="center">66%</td><td align="center">34</td><td align="center">132</td><td align="center">166</td><td align="center">168</td><td align="center">232</td><td align="center">6</td><td align="center">50</td><td align="center">169</td><td align="center">625</td><td align="center">1.7</td><td align="center">2.4</td><td align="center">6.5</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#000000"><td colspan="33"><img src="_content/s.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td></tr></table></td></tr></table>

JeeberD

03-24-2005, 10:37 AM

Cool, good to see that he's contributing to a very good team. I wish we had been able to keep him around longer than one season, but I don't blame him for trying to escape the tyranical rle of former coach Jason Rabadoodoo...

Eaglesfan27

03-24-2005, 02:19 PM

I'd like to see Bogut become a Hornet. Hopefully, he'll still be around when the Hornets pick.

miami_fan

03-24-2005, 08:29 PM

Being in this time zone, I actually got an opportunity a few times this season. I don't know if he will be a superstar but he (hold on to your seats) KNOWS how to play the game! You really have to watch how he plays. IMO he is the anti-usual NBA high draft pick

Breeze

03-24-2005, 09:11 PM

The fact is that he will get picked by the Hawks.

As a result, he will stink and the Hawks will continue to suck.

Wow I couldn't have summed it up better. Of course I guess there is a chance the Hawks take Chris Paul and ruin his career instead.

Coffee Warlord

03-24-2005, 09:46 PM

Don't be hatin' on the Aussie big men.

Luc Longley was the real reason the Bulls won all those championships. :)

JeeberD

03-25-2005, 05:52 AM

But he was a friggin' Lobo. I hate Lobos almost as much as I hate Tech... :mad:

TargetPractice6

03-26-2005, 03:29 PM

I was pretty impressed with how well Bogut moved for his height, but he was obiously bothered by our bigger centers. He was still a monster on the boards in the first half when he was fresh though. I think he'll be a pretty good pro, but he didn't really strike me as a world beater. Perhaps if he had a better supporting cast...

dubb93

03-27-2005, 01:28 AM

Don't be hatin' on the Aussie big men.

Luc Longley was the real reason the Bulls won all those championships. :)

No, it was Will Purdue. Look at what he did for San Antonio later in his career.

Easy Mac

03-27-2005, 08:53 AM

Have you seen Utah's other players numbers?
Yes.
NAME PTS
Andrew Bogut 20.4
Marc Jackson 10.7
Bryant Markson 10.4
Justin Hawkins 8.5
Richard Chaney 7.8
Tim Drisdom 4.7
Jonas Langvad 4.0
Chris Jackson 2.0
Casey Iverson 1.5
Chris Grant 1.0
Jermaine Calvin 0.9
Jake Schmidt 0.0

Bogut's team scored better.

Easy Mac

03-27-2005, 08:55 AM

How many of these guys went on to play some in the NBA or overseas?

Right now, I don't see anyone else from the Ute Squad going on much further other than Bogut. But then again, I am not an NBA scout.
Just 1 went NBA (Langdon) Capel, Wojo and Collins are currently coaches. I seriously doubt if the others went overseas (to a real league), but its not too difficult to go international anyway.