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vtbub
03-31-2005, 09:05 AM
Honolulu Blue has this at the end of the poll thread, but she died today at 41.

She's in a lot better place than she was.

Anthony
03-31-2005, 09:08 AM
about time. time for the next "important national issue".

Ragone
03-31-2005, 09:09 AM
about time. time for the next "important national issue".

according to the nation.. that will be her cremation.. But the public wake should be a circus

Anthony
03-31-2005, 09:11 AM
according to the nation.. that will be her cremation.. But the public wake should be a circus

dammit, just won't go away.

stevew
03-31-2005, 09:21 AM
She is now more powerful than we possibly can imagine.

The Afoci
03-31-2005, 09:23 AM
Well, my guess is that if I truly wanted to die, I could have done it in less time than her. Hope her husband has a great time the rest of his life.

Tigercat
03-31-2005, 09:24 AM
Well, my guess is that if I truly wanted to die, I could have done it in less time than her. Hope her husband has a great time the rest of his life.

Everytime The Afoci makes a serious post a kitten cries.

Blackadar
03-31-2005, 09:24 AM
Well, my guess is that if I truly wanted to die, I could have done it in less time than her. Hope her husband has a great time the rest of his life.

:rolleyes:

Haven't gotten it yet, have you? She had no wants, which would indicate conscious thought.

Loki
03-31-2005, 09:25 AM
I heard that a little white girl was made fun of in her elementry school.

Someone alert the media!

Huckleberry
03-31-2005, 09:28 AM
Well, my guess is that if I truly wanted to die, I could have done it in less time than her. Hope her husband has a great time the rest of his life.Wow.

I watched my mother starve to death with stomach cancer. She knew she was dying and didn't want to prolong the grief for my family. She told me as much.

Once she was no longer able to take any nutrition at all it still took weeks to die.

You are ignorant. Perhaps now that you know this, you won't bother "guessing" in the future.

tategter
03-31-2005, 09:29 AM
It's about time.

Anthony
03-31-2005, 09:30 AM
*warning, offensive remark below*

lol, my friend said he overheard "Feed a fever....Starve a Schiavo". hahahaha, i love being a New Yorker.

The Afoci
03-31-2005, 09:47 AM
I got nothing.

Raiders Army
03-31-2005, 09:52 AM
The post intentionally left blank.

Anthony
03-31-2005, 10:14 AM
this was passed on to me by a FOFC member who shall remain nameless. too good to keep to myself:

YAY! It's Terry Schiavo! (http://www.steelernation.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=4411&stc=1)

CHEMICAL SOLDIER
03-31-2005, 10:21 AM
If we thought this was a circus think of the battle for the carcass and the Shindler's being ''advocates'' for a certain right wing political party for the next 4 years.

Cap Ologist
03-31-2005, 10:27 AM
I wonder if her parents will now file a wrongful death suit against her husband.

Ksyrup
03-31-2005, 10:44 AM
*warning, offensive remark below*

lol, my friend said he overheard "Feed a fever....Starve a Schiavo". hahahaha, i love being a New Yorker.
One of those bad taste t-shirt companies has a shirt that says, "To Hell With Terry Schiavo, Stop Feeding Kirstie Alley."

CHEMICAL SOLDIER
03-31-2005, 11:21 AM
When my brother heard she died he said: ''The Constitution has been saved once more.''

tategter
03-31-2005, 12:01 PM
When my brother heard she died he said: ''The Constitution has been saved once more.''

Gotta agree with that remark. No matter how much the President, Congress, and Gov Jeb wanted to bend the law the constitution won-out.

duckman
03-31-2005, 12:07 PM
Is it a bad thing that I keep hearing Another Bite The Dust by Queen after reading this thread?

Franklinnoble
03-31-2005, 12:20 PM
Is it a bad thing that I keep hearing Another Bite The Dust by Queen after reading this thread?

I dunno... but now that you've said that, I'M hearing that every time I see this thread...

HomerJSimpson
03-31-2005, 12:21 PM
Is it a bad thing that I keep hearing Another Bite The Dust by Queen after reading this thread?


Yoda the Baptist preacher says:

In Hell you will burn.

BigJohn&TheLions
03-31-2005, 12:36 PM
One of those bad taste t-shirt companies has a shirt that says, "To Hell With Terry Schiavo, Stop Feeding Kirstie Alley."
That would be tshirthell... Laughed my arse off when I saw it.

RIP Terri.

Anthony
03-31-2005, 01:12 PM
i wonder if the media knows that in many circles - Terri Schiavo is a running joke (well, i don't know about the running part, ba-dump-bump). in fact, i'd be willing to put money down that says contrary to the mass saturation of "All-Terri, All the time" coverage and pro-Terri protestors, they are actually in the minority and that the country has become numb to the circus.

SackAttack
03-31-2005, 03:19 PM
The couple had begged to be with their firstborn while she drew her last breath, but police denied their request, said Brother Paul O'Donnell, a spokesman and spiritual adviser for the Schindlers.

Michael Schiavo, Terri's guardian, controlled who could visit her and when.

Nice guy. Just a real peach.

Karlifornia
03-31-2005, 03:26 PM
I bet Terri Schiavo would have eaten Wendy's chili.

Axxon
03-31-2005, 04:41 PM
Nice guy. Just a real peach.

Yep, horrible, horrible man wanting to be with his wife when she died. What scum. :rolleyes:

You do realize that by mutual agreement the two families will not be in the room with her at the same time?

This is simply more family propoganda. Nothing else.

SirFozzie
03-31-2005, 04:45 PM
Or the family authorizing the sale of the list of the names and addresses of people who funded their legal fight to Marketers and those who they believe would share similar viewpoints.

(From the NY Times)

WASHINGTON, March 28 - The parents of Terri Schiavo have authorized a conservative direct-mailing firm to sell a list of their financial supporters, making it likely that thousands of strangers moved by her plight will receive a steady stream of solicitations from anti-abortion and conservative groups.

"These compassionate pro-lifers donated toward Bob Schindler's legal battle to keep Terri's estranged husband from removing the feeding tube from Terri," says a description of the list on the Web site of the firm, Response Unlimited, which is asking $150 a month for 6,000 names and $500 a month for 4,000 e-mail addresses of people who responded last month to an e-mail plea from Ms. Schiavo's father. "These individuals are passionate about the way they value human life, adamantly oppose euthanasia and are pro-life in every sense of the word!"

CHEMICAL SOLDIER
03-31-2005, 05:14 PM
Now that she's dead will the Shindler family be allowed a few days to mourn over her. What I mean is: Will they have a viewing before handing the body back to Schiavo or will she be cremated and sent to Pennsylvania.

BrianD
03-31-2005, 05:19 PM
Now that she's dead will the Shindler family be allowed a few days to mourn over her. What I mean is: Will they have a viewing before handing the body back to Schiavo or will she be cremated and sent to Pennsylvania.

They had a viewing shortly after she died. They weren't allowed in the room while she died, but they were admitted in shortly after.

I wonder if the cremation plans will now be contested. Her parents didn't want that to happen either.

Blackadar
03-31-2005, 06:22 PM
I wonder if the cremation plans will now be contested. Her parents didn't want that to happen either.

They already tried suing over that and lost.

SackAttack
03-31-2005, 07:35 PM
Yep, horrible, horrible man wanting to be with his wife when she died. What scum. :rolleyes:

You do realize that by mutual agreement the two families will not be in the room with her at the same time?

and you're telling me that when all the challenges have been exhausted, when the Schindlers have admitted defeat, that Schiavo can't do the gracious thing and allow the parents in as she's drawing her last breaths? That they can't each set aside their grievances with one another for another time and place?

If that's true, then they're both schmucks - not that that mightn't be the case anyway.

JHandley
03-31-2005, 07:48 PM
and you're telling me that when all the challenges have been exhausted, when the Schindlers have admitted defeat, that Schiavo can't do the gracious thing and allow the parents in as she's drawing her last breaths? That they can't each set aside their grievances with one another for another time and place?

If that's true, then they're both schmucks - not that that mightn't be the case anyway.

There is no question they're both schmucks.

However, there is no possible way they can be in the same room, especially during her last moments. The family firmly believes that he is murdering their child. Could anyone be reasonably expected to not act when watching someone kill someone they love? I think it's entirely possible that they would physically attack him, try to kill him. This isn't some petty grudge, this isn't merely a grievance with each other. This man is in the act of killing their daughter. Regardless of your personal view of the act itself, that's what they believe and that's how people act.

Huckleberry
03-31-2005, 08:38 PM
Or the family authorizing the sale of the list of the names and addresses of people who funded their legal fight to Marketers and those who they believe would share similar viewpoints.

(From the NY Times)

WASHINGTON, March 28 - The parents of Terri Schiavo have authorized a conservative direct-mailing firm to sell a list of their financial supporters, making it likely that thousands of strangers moved by her plight will receive a steady stream of solicitations from anti-abortion and conservative groups.

"These compassionate pro-lifers donated toward Bob Schindler's legal battle to keep Terri's estranged husband from removing the feeding tube from Terri," says a description of the list on the Web site of the firm, Response Unlimited, which is asking $150 a month for 6,000 names and $500 a month for 4,000 e-mail addresses of people who responded last month to an e-mail plea from Ms. Schiavo's father. "These individuals are passionate about the way they value human life, adamantly oppose euthanasia and are pro-life in every sense of the word!"

So would that be the "Schindlers' List" they're selling?

Ouch. http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/redface.gif

stevew
03-31-2005, 08:49 PM
So would that be the "Schindlers' List" they're selling?

Ouch. http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/redface.gif


Sure seems to fit the Starvation and Concentration camp type themes that have been coming out of their camp.

ISiddiqui
04-01-2005, 12:00 AM
There is no question they're both schmucks.

However, there is no possible way they can be in the same room, especially during her last moments. The family firmly believes that he is murdering their child. Could anyone be reasonably expected to not act when watching someone kill someone they love? I think it's entirely possible that they would physically attack him, try to kill him. This isn't some petty grudge, this isn't merely a grievance with each other. This man is in the act of killing their daughter. Regardless of your personal view of the act itself, that's what they believe and that's how people act.
That, and if I were Michael, I'm not sure I'd want to be in the same room as a bunch of people who accused me of beating my wife to brain damage, being in it just for the money, etc, etc.

Ragone
04-01-2005, 12:52 AM
I like how to the end they were fighting over anything

Family"Micheal wasn't in the room"

Micheals lawyer" Micheal was too in the room"

Family"was not"

Micheals lawyer"was too"

Family"not"

Micheals lawyer"too"

Family"notnotnotnotnotnotnotnot"

Lawyer"tootootootootootoo"

you get the point

paperstreetsoap
04-01-2005, 01:47 AM
well, whatever. rest in peace.

Blackadar
04-01-2005, 07:17 AM
and you're telling me that when all the challenges have been exhausted, when the Schindlers have admitted defeat, that Schiavo can't do the gracious thing and allow the parents in as she's drawing her last breaths? That they can't each set aside their grievances with one another for another time and place?

If that's true, then they're both schmucks - not that that mightn't be the case anyway.

After everything they accused him of, I wouldn't have given them permission to see her at all unless ordered by a court of law.

Ragone
04-01-2005, 08:20 AM
After everything they accused him of, I wouldn't have given them permission to see her at all unless ordered by a court of law.

I tend to agree with blackadar.. besides, i could see the family trying to manually insert a tube into terri to try and save her or something equally futile

Blackadar
04-01-2005, 08:37 AM
I tend to agree with blackadar.. besides, i could see the family trying to manually insert a tube into terri to try and save her or something equally futile

I was just thinking that I wouldn't want to be around their unpleasantness. After all I've learned about this case, I really think the Schindlers are bad, bad people.

Subby
04-01-2005, 08:42 AM
I think it is pretty difficult to judge either the parents or the husband, to be honest. I can see myself acting the same way if it was a) my child or b) my spouse.

The only bad, bad people here are the ones making jokes at Terry Schiavo's expense...

Ragone
04-01-2005, 08:43 AM
I was just thinking that I wouldn't want to be around their unpleasantness. After all I've learned about this case, I really think the Schindlers are bad, bad people.

I'll avoid the easy and obvious micheal shiavo making schindlers list reference.. What are they gonna do now that their way overdrawn 15 minutes(years?) of fame are up.. You think they'll try and sue micheal shiavo or even the united states of america in a wrongful death civil suit? really wouldn't put it past them at this point..

duckman
04-01-2005, 10:25 AM
After all I've learned about this case, I really think the Schindlers are bad, bad people.
You have a right to your opinion, but I have to respectfully disagree. The truth is we don't know either Michael Shiavo or the Shindlers.

duckman
04-01-2005, 10:27 AM
You think they'll try and sue micheal shiavo or even the united states of america in a wrongful death civil suit? really wouldn't put it past them at this point..
I expect them to file a wrongful death suit against Michael Schiavo. However, there is not enough (if any) evidence that he caused her condition and/or death.

Blackadar
04-01-2005, 10:29 AM
You have a right to your opinion, but I have to respectfully disagree. The truth is we don't know either Michael Shiavo or the Shindlers.

As you have a right to yours. I just have come to that conclusion by looking at all the undisputed evidence - timelines of when things occured, their own statements, actions confirmed by both sides, etc.

miked
04-01-2005, 10:30 AM
Well, considering their litigation is basically free since they have the backing of some major lobbyists and sold their list, I expect plenty of suits. I could see them as being satisfied only when he's used all his money to fight their frivolous suits. They are playing with house money.

Masked
04-01-2005, 10:35 AM
I think the Shindler's were emotional distraught over the impending death of their daughter which allowed them to be taken advantage of by others, such as a couple of doctors, lawyers, the priest, etc who were seeking to exploit the situation for their gain.

HomerJSimpson
04-01-2005, 10:44 AM
I think the Shindler's were emotional distraught over the impending death of their daughter which allowed them to be taken advantage of by others, such as a couple of doctors, lawyers, the priest, etc who were seeking to exploit the situation for their gain.


I hope that is true, but they still seem angry enough to keep fighting.

st.cronin
04-01-2005, 10:51 AM
We need Congress to pass some legislation so we can remove the tube from this thread's mouth.

Simms
04-01-2005, 12:28 PM
This is, um...interesting.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/kgtv/20050329/lo_wkmg/2648050

yabanci
04-01-2005, 03:08 PM
I expect them to file a wrongful death suit against Michael Schiavo. However, there is not enough (if any) evidence that he caused her condition and/or death.

I wouldn't put it past them because they are (a) insane and (b) have some of the worst lawyers I've seen, but the statute of limitations on any such claims expired long time.

duckman
04-01-2005, 11:42 PM
I wouldn't put it past them because they are (a) insane and (b) have some of the worst lawyers I've seen, but the statute of limitations on any such claims expired long time.
I'm not certain, but I don't think the statue of limitations has run out on the civil part of the case.