OOTP 6.5 Released

[Ben E Lou]

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/showthread.php?t=100509

[Eaglesfan27]

Darn it. I said I was going to wait for reviews, but I'm off today and "jonesing" for some good sim baseball. Time to get out the credit card ;)

[Ben E Lou]

I've uploaded a 100-year history with a 16-team league. This league was run with what was pretty much the release version of the game.

Check it out. (http://www.younglifenorthlake.com/ootp65)

[Eaglesfan27]

Skydog,

From your beta testing does it look like modifiers won't be needed for realistic player development. Just quickly glancing over the career leaderboard, it looks good.

[Ben E Lou]

The modifiers aren't nearly as necessary. Development is pretty realistic overall with the standard settings. The one development-oriented issue that he was unable to fully solve with this version (which, he says, will be revisited with OOTP7) is the AI usage of 33-36 year-olds over 23-26 year-olds with slightly-lower ratings in the starting lineup. There are far fewer of those annoying guys who show up in the lineup for the first time at age 31 and up, though, and even the 23-26-year-old issue has definitely improved. I personally would like to see a few more 40-year-olds productive than there are, but that's pretty minor in the big scheme of things.

As you also may have noticed already from the league I uploaded, batting stats have been reduced a good bit from 6.12, which is a good thing imho.

[stevew]

Financial Coefficient isnt in this version?

[MizzouRah]

TPB - EHM - OOTP??

Not enough time in the day.... :)


Thanks,

Todd

[jbmagic]

Skydog

how is waivers and trades by the computer teams now?

[MrBug708]

Does anyone else have the license servers as being down?

[DanGarion]

Does anyone else have the license servers as being down?
Seems to be a little hit and miss, but I got mine now... ;)

[Draft Dodger]

Financial Coefficient isnt in this version?

no

[Draft Dodger]

Skydog

how is waivers and trades by the computer teams now?

I think it's improved (I know this got a lot of attention in testing), but I still don't think it's where everyone would like it to be, nor do I think we're really close to that. there are just SO many variables that come into play here that it must be a gargantuan task to get right.

lots of steps in the right direction (the new team focus feature, for example), but I still will keep waivers off in my solo league

[MizzouRah]

but I still will keep waivers off in my solo league

That stinks...

[Draft Dodger]

That stinks...

not for me. :p

[jbmagic]

thanks draft dodger for being honest.

appreciate it.


i also been looking at skydog league testing and notice some of the trades dont look balance.

what your opinion on trades in 6.5?

[Ben E Lou]

That stinks...In the tests I've run for my own purposes (with high ratings evaluation), I'm not seeing nearly as many waivers, fwiw.

[jbmagic]

skydog

what evaluation weight your using please?

[Ben E Lou]

not for me. :pYou don't like using waivers, or they aren't just a big deal?

[jbmagic]

why does Skydog always ignore me? :(

[stevew]

With you, its easy.

Add jbmagic to your Ignore List
Add jbmagic to your list?

However, he will not accept an Ignoring.


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[Draft Dodger]

You don't like using waivers, or they aren't just a big deal?

when 6 came out, I HATED the way waivers and such was handled, so I just got into the habit of not using them. to me, you get more competitive team AIs with it off, so (outside of testing) I've kept them off.

[MizzouRah]

In the tests I've run for my own purposes (with high ratings evaluation), I'm not seeing nearly as many waivers, fwiw.
That's why I'm waiting a week or so to get serious. I figured you would do some extensive testing to figure out some good fictional settings.

Thanks,

Todd

[Draft Dodger]

what your opinion on trades in 6.5?

we got to see a bit into the logic behind the AI moves in testing. Without divulging stuff that I can't, I think the area that needs to be fine-tuned the most is the way that the AI evaluates talent. As that gets better in future iterations of the game, I think the trading (and, honestly, probably a lot of the waiver moves and stuff) will improve.

[miked]

Here is our favorite person...


It won't let me buy the license for the game ootp6.5. I tried using my ootp6 license but I'm out of orders and then I go to pay for ootp6.5 and it says Cannot use credit card or whatever. It's really gay. What do I do?

Anyone want to give him their credit card number?

[Ragone]

Its just sad really. i wanted to get this.. yet, i cannot get my licensing information back from elicense people.. ah well.. guess that saves me 15 bucks

[CraigSca]

why does Skydog always ignore me? :(I don't think he's ignoring you, it's just that trades and waivers are a difficult part of the game to post an opinion on so early in the process. Usually issues with trades and waivers come out little by little as the initial release date fades off into oblivion.

Again, I don't think he's ignoring you, I think he's just said "waivers don't occur as much" in this iteration of the program. Beyond that, I doubt he has much more information this early in the ball game.

[Draft Dodger]

oh no, he's ignoring him.

[Ben E Lou]

That's why I'm waiting a week or so to get serious. I figured you would do some extensive testing to figure out some good fictional settings.

Thanks,

Todd...and that's why I'm pre-simming 30 years before I dive in to control a team in my dynasty. :p

[MizzouRah]

...and that's why I'm pre-simming 30 years before I dive in to control a team in my dynasty. :p
Yeah.... well me too. :p

[MizzouRah]

Here is our favorite person...



Anyone want to give him their credit card number?
Would some say he hasn't got a klew?

[MizzouRah]

Its just sad really. i wanted to get this.. yet, i cannot get my licensing information back from elicense people.. ah well.. guess that saves me 15 bucks
You mean $10?

What's the issue.. email them and they'll get back to you. I never understand how people have so many issues with Viatech? They've been beyond great when I've used them for license emails.

Now I keep a folder in Outlook called, LICENSES just for this reason. Give them some time to get back to you Rago...


Todd

[CraigSca]

Here is our favorite person...



Anyone want to give him their credit card number?
Apparently it's "really gay". I'm out of ideas.

[CraigSca]

You mean $10?

What's the issue.. email them and they'll get back to you. I never understand how people have so many issues with Viatech? They've been beyond great when I've used them for license emails.

Now I keep a folder in Outlook called, LICENSES just for this reason. Give them some time to get back to you Rago...


Todd
Actually, I wrote to them over a month ago asking about a TCY license that I had on my now dead hard drive. Never heard back from them. Even followed that up with a "Anyone care to respond to this attached message?" and still have heard nothing. Fortunately, I found another license I purchased earlier, therefore there's no urgency. Admittedly, if I didn't find the license, I'd probably be writing/calling every 15 mins but haven't done so. Still, it's odd that I have received absolutely no response.

Bottom line is - I'm sure if I was a squeaky wheel, I'd get what I ask for. Ragone needs to be squeakier :)

[Ragone]

You mean $10?

What's the issue.. email them and they'll get back to you. I never understand how people have so many issues with Viatech? They've been beyond great when I've used them for license emails.

Now I keep a folder in Outlook called, LICENSES just for this reason. Give them some time to get back to you Rago...


Todd

I've been waiting for 3 weeks Mizzou... thats beyond enough time to type like 3 things into a database..

[jbmagic]

I've been waiting for 3 weeks Mizzou... thats beyond enough time to type like 3 things into a database..



be sure to check your bulk mail too?

did you email them your license #, so they can check your records?

[MizzouRah]

I've been waiting for 3 weeks Mizzou... thats beyond enough time to type like 3 things into a database..Something must have happened. I've had replies of 5-15 mins during working hours. Honestly. Do you have a junk email folder that is weeding messages like that out?

[email protected] ([email protected]) <-- is that the email address you are using?

866-723-3376 Headquarters inside USA <--- or call them

[kcchief19]

why does Skydog always ignore me? :( Have you tried sending him a private message? That always works for me.

[Draft Dodger]

I got my email within a couple hours. on a Saturday, no less.

[Eaglesfan27]

...and that's why I'm pre-simming 30 years before I dive in to control a team in my dynasty. :p

and that's why I'm going to play every game for the 1st year. Hopefully, that will give time for any kinks to be worked out.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Something must have happened. I've had replies of 5-15 mins during working hours. Honestly. Do you have a junk email folder that is weeding messages like that out?

[email protected] ([email protected]) <-- is that the email address you are using?

866-723-3376 Headquarters inside USA <--- or call them

I highly recommend trying the phone call, it has never failed me yet.
(nor has emailing them, but that usually does take longer - but never more than a couple of days)

[Bee]

Have you tried sending him a private message? That always works for me.

hehe...:D

Ok, in the FOFC pool who had kcchief as the next person to get banned? ;)

[valhalla]

I will be waiting for reviews before i even think about buying this one.. I have no trust in these guys after all the stuff that happened in the last release..

Im hoping this is worth the $10, and not simply a ploy to generate some quick revenue untill the next version is out.

[MizzouRah]

I will be waiting for reviews before i even think about buying this one.. I have no trust in these guys after all the stuff that happened in the last release..

Im hoping this is worth the $10, and not simply a ploy to generate some quick revenue untill the next version is out.
I haven't even really dug deep into it yet and I would say it's WELL worth $10 if you plan on playing ootp v6.12. Too many additions and bug fixes to pass up, imo.


Todd

[Mota]

Skydog, the #1 prospect in your league is named Pedro Pedro. I love it! My favorite new player name!

[bigdawg2003]

I bought it, and my opinion on waivers is that I still see too many really good prospects being left on waivers and lost. The A's put Huston Street on waivers and I got him when they never pulled him back. The AI does pull back players, but there are still too many 3 star and up prospects changing hands, especially relievers. Also, prospects who are out of options haven't made any appearances so far. Many times in prior versions, 4-5 star prospects that were out of options would be placed on irrevocable waivers and lost. Haven't seen that yet, but I haven't gotten very far along in a season

EDIT: Another thing that does not appear to have been fixed is the tendency of AI teams to convert starting pitchers to middle relievers and then putting them through waivers. Great way to build a young and cheap pitching staff however. Has that ever been reported to Markus?

[SackAttack]

Having a blast so far, but I can't believe none of the beta testers notice that minor league OPS and OBP aren't displaying properly, either in-game or in the HTML player report.

[jbmagic]

Having a blast so far, but I can't believe none of the beta testers notice that minor league OPS and OBP aren't displaying properly, either in-game or in the HTML player report.

did you report it in the ootp forum too.

[Draft Dodger]

Having a blast so far, but I can't believe none of the beta testers notice that minor league OPS and OBP aren't displaying properly, either in-game or in the HTML player report.

actually, this beta tester did notice it.
but notice that the OBP numbers are only screwed up for previous years - stuff simmed in the game works fine. I think this is a product of the creation of the roster set, related to the career/last-season stats being off kilter.

the roster creation tools are not very good...

[SackAttack]

jbmagic - reported it there before I did so here.

DD - I'm not using anybody's custom roster. This is the roster set the game generated when I created the league. Is it the default roster creation tools you're referring to, or...?

[Ben E Lou]

jbmagic - reported it there before I did so here.

DD - I'm not using anybody's custom roster. This is the roster set the game generated when I created the league. Is it the default roster creation tools you're referring to, or...?What kind of league, custom or standard?

[SackAttack]

Standard, with manager mode turned off.

[jbmagic]

the default roster that comes with 6.5 is halofan updated roster he did for 2005.

just Markus change the name to fictional to protect the innocent.

[Draft Dodger]

yep.
and my halofan roster set did the same thing under 6.12

[jbmagic]

i am in halofan online league and soon he going to release a real roster for ootp 6.5 version.

he said he will continue to update one for ootp 6.12 and one for 6.5

[MizzouRah]

Sack,

Generate a fully fictional league and you won't have that issue. I think I'm turning waivers off though.. like DD did.


Todd

[jbmagic]

I haven't even really dug deep into it yet and I would say it's WELL worth $10 if you plan on playing ootp v6.12. Too many additions and bug fixes to pass up, imo.


Todd

could not wait :)

same here Todd

[jbmagic]

6.5a news
Hey guys,

the beta-testing of the patch is almost done... so it'll be released soon.

The following things were fixed or enhanced:
- Added Team LOB to the boxscores
- Fixed boxscore saving options
- Fixed listing of retired players
- Fixed a couple of 7 day lineup bugs
- Fixed a rare AI depth chart bug
- Added player history entries for players entering the league from Japan or Cuba
- Fixed the HTML reports so that they work with Catobase (changes only start effecting the reports from the date you install the patch,
existing lines in reports are not changed.)
- Fixed projected stats report when using the master HTML report
- Fixed some AI glitches that had to do with career ending injuries
- BABIP for pitchers will now be tracked for retired players as well (only for seasons played with OOTP 6.5a)
- Fixed issues with players returning from retirement
- Fixed problems with tracking intentional walks
- Fixed some minor bugs

Cheers,
Markus


http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/showthread.php?t=101348

[korme]

sweet!

[21C]

The 6.5a fixes or you just talking to jbmagic again?

[jbmagic]

*** OOTP 6.5a patch released! ***
We have just released the OOTP 6.5a patch for the new expansion pack. You can download it here.

The following things were fixed or enhanced:
- Added Team LOB to the boxscores
- Fixed boxscore saving options
- Fixed listing of retired players
- Fixed a couple of 7 day lineup bugs
- Fixed a rare AI depth chart bug
- Added player history entries for players entering the league from Japan or Cuba
- Fixed the HTML reports so that they work with Catobase (changes only start effecting the reports from the date you install the patch,
existing lines in reports are not changed.)
- Fixed projected stats report when using the master HTML report
- Fixed some AI glitches that had to do with career ending injuries
- BABIP for pitchers will now be tracked for retired players as well (only for seasons played with OOTP 6.5a)
- Fixed issues with players returning from retirement
- Fixed problems with tracking intentional walks
- Fixed a problem with trading draft picks of the same round
- Fixed some minor bugs

Cheers,
Markus

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/showthread.php?t=101485

[sovereignstar]

How much does 6.5a cost?

[jbmagic]

How much does 6.5a cost?


its free if you pay for 6.5 expansion already.

if not then its 9.99 us price.

[MizzouRah]

With 6.5a, I'd have to say that ootp is now back at #1 in games played for me right now. Damn fine expansion pack for $10 and really has an unmatched immersion level as far as text sims go for me.

Just as I'm getting to EHM, I can't stop playing 6.5a, kudos to Markus for adding so much to this game. I honestly don't see me caring about v7 near as much now.. at least I can wait. :)

My top 5 now:
1. OOTP 6.5a
2. TPB (still playing the heck out of this gem)
3. EHM
4. FOF
5. bbmogul

[jbmagic]

Markus has release the Boxscores Screenshots for OOTP 7
and new Patch 6.5b release this week


*** OOTP 7 Boxscores Screenshot ***
Hey guys,

Aurelio and I just completed the coding of the OOTP 7 generatd boxscores, and we thought we'd like to share this with you

Here is a screenshot of boxscores from a game between the Blue Jays and the Brewers, back in 1983... pretty exciting game that was.

OOTP 7 generated boxscore

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/ootp/ootp7_boxscores.jpg

Hope you like it!

Oh, and some more stuff: If all goes well, then OOTP 7 will feature a webbrowser inside the game, which also interacts with the game, so when you click on a link, the requested report/page will be generated on demand. So basically you'll have a website of your league within your game Oh, and I looked into the Cato stuff a bit deeper... and something like that looks doable for OOTP 7. That's hardly a promise, though

PS: I'll begin coding the 6.5b patch this week..

Everything is template and CSS based, you can design your own stuff into the HTML outputs

[korme]

Holy crap, potential Catobase inside OOTP7

[Bo Jackson's Hip]

That boxscore layout is **sweet**. I'm really looking forward to OOTP 7.

[Bo Jackson's Hip]

Holy crap, potential Catobase inside OOTP7

For us non IT-types, what's a Cato database in Layman's terms?

[korme]

Basically, a baseball-reference for OOTP

[BigJohn&TheLions]

Markus has release the Boxscores Screenshots for OOTP 7
and new Patch 6.5b release this week
Aby new updates on 6.5b?

[jbmagic]

Aby new updates on 6.5b?


Markus said in the ootp forum a couple of weeks ago, he working on patch 6.5b.

that the last i heard.

[BigJohn&TheLions]

So should I just get 6.5a, or wait for 6.5b?

Also, will my current league (6.12) transfer over, or will I need to start over?

[jbmagic]

no need to start over.

best to update 6.5a prior to hitting the button "Proceed to next Season"

[MizzouRah]

6.51a released today

http://ootpdevfiles.com/ootp/ootp651a.exe

[MizzouRah]

a 4 month dola,

I've started a new career with the Cubbyfan roster set and I'd have to say, I'm deeper into 6.5 than ever before. Of course that's easy to say when you're 48-24 and was tied with the Cubs a few weeks ago, 13 wins in a row later, I'm now up 7 games. Rolen is having his best season ever hitting 22 homers and batting in 74 runs. He's 2 HR's and 20 RBI ahead of Pujols and clearly a front runner for MVP so far this season. On the other hand, Carpenter has won 8 in a row and is now 11-3 with a 2.02 ERA.

I forgot how much was added in 6.5 as I've spent hours just looking up various stats.