Werewolf XII: Mafia Returneth

[Neon_Chaos]

Hmmm. Let's do this one more time. This time, a much more simpler game of Werewolf/Mafia (or is it!?!?). :) If there are any beginners, it would be nice if you joined up. (so we can screw with your minds) :)

Players: 15-20

Roles:

Mafia - The Don has died. You are among the last of his soldiers. You have lived with these simple village folk for as long as you can remember, but now a message has come from Palermo. The Don's long lost son is living in your village, you are to recruit him and have him join your side. Each night you may choose one person to kill.

The Don's Son - You do not know that you are the Don's long lost son. However, if you are selected by Mafia, you will automatically join them. As long as you have not been selected by the Mafia, you will still count as a villager and be viewed as a villager by the Seer.

Retired Officer - You are a retired police officer, living your life out in this small village. Thanks to your police training, you are skilled in the ways of gunslinging. You may choose to protect one person each night from being killed by the Mafia. You may choose yourself, but cannot choose the same person in consecutive nights.

Newspaper Investigator - You have been assigned to this village for so many years. You have always known that the Don's son is here, but you could not pinpoint who he was. Each night, you have a chance to determine the role of a given player.

Regional Magistrate - You are the Regional Magistrate, and have decided to go on vacation on this small village, as an escape from the hectic life in the City. You may choose to prevent someone from being lynched, and have someone else lynched instead. This is a one time power.

Rules:

There will be two turns per day, a Day Turn (Where you cast your votes and lynch someone.) and a Night Turn (When the Night Actions happen). Day Turn deadline will be at 9PM EDT. Night Turn deadline will be at 9AM EDT. The game will begin with a Day Turn, so no first night lead for the Seer.

Tied votes will be determined by the last valid vote made.

Like the previous game, there might be several secret roles in this one. :)

Roles will be revealed upon Death.

Missing two nights of voting will cause you to be removed from the game and replaced by an alternate.

Just post below if you want in. ;)

Current Players:
1. dubb93
2. ardent enthusiast
3. SackAttack
4. Fouts
5. <STRIKE>RealDeal</STRIKE> - Villager, Lynched Day 1
6. Bearcat729
7. illinifan999
8. MrBug708
9. SnDvls
10. <STRIKE>Mr. Wednesday</STRIKE> - Witness, Killed By Mafia Night 1
11. digamma
12. bek
13. <strike>Aesyrqwe</strike> - Villager, Lynched Day 2
14. Shorty3281
15. pennywisesb
16. Schmidty
17. Blade6119
18. jeff061

[dubb93]

i'm game

[Poli]

In like Flynn.

[Blade6119]

im in!

[kingfc22]

I want Mr. W and his family DEAD!! :D

Yea, I'm in

[RealDeal]

im in

[Bearcat729]

Alright I'll try to play this game. I'm in

[illinifan999]

I'll try this one.

[MrBug708]

I know it asks for new guys, but I enjoyed all of the twists

[SnDvls]

put me in

[Mr. Wednesday]

In.

(Unless you have a new guy who wants a place, then I'll gladly slide over to alternate.)

[Neon_Chaos]

New guys, old guys... it doesn't matter. :) 15-20 to join! :)

[digamma]

Sounds good to me.

[Bek]

Im in

[Aesyrqwe]

I'll give it a go.

-Aes

[korme]

You got that? All I have in this world is my balls and my word and I don't break them for no one.

[MrBug708]

"Now the leg, huh?"

[Superman=#54]

What?!

No serial killer. I'm disapointed Neon. ;)

I <3 Werewolf games. Count me in. Don't get in my way carebears.

[MrBug708]

I bet I will be a lowly villager this time though. :(

[pennywisesb]

Can I join still? Sorry about being late...these games seem pretty fun though.

[Schmidty]

I'll play.

[MrBug708]

I think having a serial killer would be just another twist. ;)

[Fouts]

I'll join if you need more.

[SackAttack]

Guess I'll give it a shot.

[Schmidty]

Just noticed that RealDeal is in this one. I'm going to have to withdraw my name in that case.

[Blade6119]

Just noticed that RealDeal is in this one. I'm going to have to withdraw my name in that case.

Im out as well, i cant play with someone who holds no respect for the others playing

[Neon_Chaos]

What's up with RealDeal? Care to drop the 411 on me?

[hoopsguy]

See the other WW game - ugly dispute between Real/Blade.

[Poli]

I've got a stack of chill pills if you guys want them.

[Neon_Chaos]

Blade6119, Schmidty, I'd understand if you didn't want to play. I'm going to leave the sign-up open for one more day, and then we can begin.

[kingfc22]

Neon, I won't have time to play at all next week. So please take me off the list. Sorry.

[Schmidty]

I've got a stack of chill pills if you guys want them.

I'm chill as chill can be. :)

I just don't feel like playing with people I honestly don't like. Like you, AE. ;)

[Poli]

Schmidty, stay in this game. I won't know who to vote for otherwise.

[Poli]

Don't make me order you to.

[Schmidty]

Schmidty, stay in this game. I won't know who to vote for otherwise.

Fine, but only because I can't resist the urge to spar with my favorite Werewolfer - Shorty. ;)

[RealDeal]

I had no problems in WW X (although it was a short game), and no one except one person has had any problem with me in WW IX.

[dubb93]

I really wish Blade would reconsider as well, he's alot of fun in these games.

[Bek]

I really wish Blade would reconsider as well, he's alot of fun in these games.


I would have to agree, blade should think long and hard about coming back.

[Blade6119]

I had no problems in WW X (although it was a short game), and no one except one person has had any problem with me in WW IX.

Im not going to bring controversy here, but i wasnt the first to withdraw from this game due to you

[Blade6119]

I really wish Blade would reconsider as well, he's alot of fun in these games.

I would have to agree, blade should think long and hard about coming back.

I appreciate both of your support...i think i owe it to dubb alone for duking him 2 games back to play thi one so he can get me back...i just want to say up front any grudges ive held in last game will stay there...i hope we can have an amiable and fun game, everyone included... :)

[Fouts]

I would have to agree, blade should think long and hard about coming back.

Introduction? New guy? Welcome to the boards.

[Neon_Chaos]

I appreciate both of your support...i think i owe it to dubb alone for duking him 2 games back to play thi one so he can get me back...i just want to say up front any grudges ive held in last game will stay there...i hope we can have an amiable and fun game, everyone included... :)
Not to mention the fact that you duked out TWO villagers in that game. Still won, and SURVIVED. ;)

[RealDeal]

If Blade wants to play, I will also agree to put aside the issues from WW IX. Assuming that what happened in WW IX was a one time thing, of course.

[jeff061]

So as long as nobody wrongly accuses(as he claims) RealDeal, and who wrongly accuses people in a WW game, he won't be a dink.

Sounds fair guys. :rolleyes:

[RealDeal]

So as long as nobody wrongly accuses(as he claims) RealDeal, and who wrongly accuses people in a WW game, he won't be a dink.

Sounds fair guys. :rolleyes:

That's not really a fair characterization of what happened at all, Jeff, and you know it. I don't want to let you dredge up the whole thing again. I'll say merely that the game thread speaks for itself.

[jeff061]

I'll say merely that the game thread speaks for itself.

Not a problem with that at all. I'm not sure you would get as many supporters as you suspect.

[RealDeal]

I'm fully aware that people can read the thread and come up with different conclusions than I did. The thread says what it says.

[pennywisesb]

I can't wait to get this started. Just be easy on me guys, this is my first game :) I've had a ton of fun reading through the others though and trying to figure out strategies.

[dubb93]

BUMP, anyone else interested?

[jeff061]

Sure I will.

[Neon_Chaos]

Player List:
1. dubb93
2. ardent enthusiast
3. SackAttack
4. Fouts
5. RealDeal
6. Bearcat729
7. illinifan999
8. MrBug708
9. SnDvls
10. Mr. Wednesday
11. digamma
12. bek
13. Aesyrqwe
14. Shorty3281
15. pennywisesb
16. Schmidty
17. Blade6119
18. jeff061

Your roles have been sent out.

The Don in Palermo has died. You all feel like you owe it to him to pay homage to the man who has protected your Village all your lives. Unfortunately, as you all wake up... you find the Don's most trusted servant, an old soldier by the name of Neon_Chaos, garroted; a thin rope wound tightly around his neck. Was he protecting something? Someone? Accusations are hurled... and tempers flare. You all know this, someone will be dead by the end of this day. There is a small slaughter-shed near the Village's center... with knives and cleavers... the perfect place for executions.

The game Begins with Day (1). Votes are due at 9PM EDT.

[korme]

As an innocent nobody, I am ready to start randomly pointing fingers on Day 1!

[RealDeal]

villager once again

[pennywisesb]

Fellow Villager checking in as well.

[illinifan999]

Damn no special power this time. :( Mafia's lucking I'm not the duke character, I could help us win it in the first 2 rounds again. :p

[pennywisesb]

I vote Illini for being arrogant. Just kidding ;)

[pennywisesb]

Since its so exciting around here, I'm gonna hit the sack. I'll be back on in the morning.

[illinifan999]

I vote Illini for being arrogant. Just kidding ;)
vampire, i mean mafia. http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Fouts]

Checking in. Interesting ruleset for this one.

[SackAttack]

Good times. I'll be around tonight and tomorrow morning to partake of the discussion and/or lynchings, but I work from 2:30 to 11 tomorrow night.

Don't hurt me.

[SackAttack]

Dola, that would be Pacific time.

[Blade6119]

hey guys, checking in...ill be in from about 4(pacific) to vote time...maybe for a few minutes in the morning, but i have work at 8 Am...ah well, lets see who tips their hand today(besides real, since we cant accuse him without "trying to bring the team down")

[Blade6119]

dola, that was meant as a joke, not an attack or a request for response from real..hopefully he took it as lighthearted as it was meant...

[Bek]

Hi all, just checking in to see whats going on...This looks like it could turn out to be an interesting game...just remember that its all in good fun..will be back to vote later

[MrBug708]

Checking in for right now...;)

[Poli]

4 bells, Ardent, arriving. I'm home with my wife for the weekend, so I'll be sporadically posting, except in the morning.

[jeff061]

Uh, so.

Vote Real Deal

[digamma]

Another villager checking in. I'll follow along as best I can today, but don't know my precise schedule.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Simple villager, checking in. The only good first-day vote I ever cast was as a mafioso for a policeman in the last mafia game, so you probably shouldn't pay any attention to my first-day vote. :p

[pennywisesb]

Hey fellow villagers, checking in. I have to work until noon today, so I'll be on most of the morning, but once I go home I'll probably be on sporadically after that throughout the day.
EDIT: grammar

[Schmidty]

Villager Schmidty reporting for duty.

[Neon_Chaos]

Bah. I'm spending the day with the folks and relatives. Looks like I might not be able to go online for the deadline, so I'm moving it back by a day. Sorry guys.

Vote Deadline is now Sunday, 9PM EDT.

[pennywisesb]

Villager Schmidty reporting for duty.


Apparently its just me and you on watch right now. :D

[dubb93]

Another villager checking in, with some luck we may be able to get the mafia as fast as we got the vampires :)

[SackAttack]

Nothing hopping yet? Aw.

[pennywisesb]

I'm leaning towards voting for Sack because of what his Dodgers are doing in the DKBL this year.

;)

[jeff061]

Yep, pretty quiet around here.

[digamma]

The Sunday deadline works better for me.

Absolutely nothing to go on. I'm thinking of joining jeff on the RD bandwagon.

[jeff061]

Yeah I'd like to reiterate a vote against Real Deal.

Maybe if he's a villager he'll call me a stupid asshole, demand an explanation and be happy that he is being vindicated, 14 times.

[Schmidty]

Yeah I'd like to reiterate a vote against Real Deal.

Maybe if he's a villager he'll call me a stupid asshole, demand an explanation and be happy that he is being vindicated, 14 times.

Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[RealDeal]

Yeah I'd like to reiterate a vote against Real Deal.

Maybe if he's a villager he'll call me a stupid asshole, demand an explanation and be happy that he is being vindicated, 14 times.

I don't want to get into a whole other pissing contest with another jerk, but I find it ironic that he was giving me crap about being upset about someone targeting me for reasons that had nothing to do with the game, and then he starts a brand new game by by doing exactly the same thing .

Like I said before, my intention is for everything that happened in WWIX to stay there, but this kind of behavior by Jeff is pretty disappointing to me. Why is he trying to drag the issues from that game into this one?

[jeff061]

I'm not going to argue with a child, anyone who doubts me only has to read the other wolf thread or do a search for your posts. It's another game, but his antics will still carry over.

[Fouts]

I'd rather not carry grudges from game to game, but that doesn't mean I won't vote for him. :)

[SackAttack]

I'm leaning towards voting for Sack because of what his Dodgers are doing in the DKBL this year.

;)

Funny, I was going to vote for Bug because of all the injuiries. :D

[digamma]

So, RealDeal, are you a villager?

[korme]

For no reason whatsoever jeff is going after RealDeal because of past experiences. Fishy.

Vote jeff061

[Blade6119]

i dont think you have to ask me if im down for voting for realdeal...if something better comes along, ill certainly change, but for now i just dont want the headache he causes

Vote Realdeal

[jeff061]

For no reason whatsoever jeff is going after RealDeal because of past experiences. Fishy.

Vote jeff061

I suspect you won't be the last with that line of thinking, which is fine, I may even be lynched. Historically I state my case of voting for the quiet ones on day 1 and do just that.

But I don't feel like dealing with a headahe for another few days.

[illinifan999]

Anyone want to transfer their duke like powers to me so I can get a mafia right away again? ;)

[SackAttack]

Don't really know anything about him, other than what I've seen in the other thread, but he was certainly a polarizing figure over there, and that's something the villagers can ill afford. For that reason, if for no other, I'll give Bug a pass (but vengeance is coming!), and

vote RealDeal

[dubb93]

Vote Realdeal

Even if he isn't involved with the mafia he isn't worth the headache. This is a game, in this game people accuse other people of being bad in order to flush them out, sometimes people are wrong. Realdeal can't seem to accept that someone may accuse him and when it happens he goes all diva and gives up over the course of about 500 posts to make his point. Not a person I want around very long.

[Schmidty]

Vote RealDeal

Go home little boy.

[Schmidty]

For no reason whatsoever jeff is going after RealDeal because of past experiences. Fishy.

Vote jeff061

Wrong, Shane. He's going after RealDeal because RD is a miserable baby who ruins the game for everyone else with his anitcs.

[illinifan999]

Well might as well just go, if any mafia's want to admit let me know and I'll change my vote.

Vote RealDeal

[RealDeal]

Here's my defense

1. I am a villagers, and it is definitely not in the villagers interest to kill me.

2. I understand that people are upset from the WW IX. In my defense, I can say, I've been on FOFC a long time. I've been involved in many dynasty threads, including GB's epic X-Com dynasty. No one has ever had a problem with me until Blade made me angry in the last thread.

3. I had a problem with Blade, and I've explained why. But I played the game straight up the whole time other with the fact that I want Blade held to accoutn for bringing out of game stuff into the game. I helped the villagers, made good votes, and supplied the villagers with completely honest information.

4. Despite my problem with Blade, I have pledged that I will not bring it in here. Everyone knows my issues with him, but that was that game, and I'm prepared to move on.

5. If you choose to kill me, I will not hold grudges. But you will find that I am a villager. This is a perfect opporunity for wolves to get a villager killed and have an excuse. Watch the votes closely and at least don't bandwagon so you get no information from my death.

[jeff061]

I had a problem with Blade, and I've explained why.

The only explanation I've heard from you is "He's stupid". I still don't get your problem with him, but from what I can see he didn't do anything you or anyone else won't do at some point. Make a incorrect accusation when there was very little to go on.

Despite my problem with Blade, I have pledged that I will not bring it in here

No you said you won't bring it here as long as no one acts like Blade did. Blade acted perfectly fine.

This is a perfect opporunity for wolves to get a villager killed and have an excuse

It always is the first day, someone will get lynched off for some dumb reason 100% of the time. This is the best reason I've seen in awhile.

[jeff061]

Let me add the thing that set me over the edge with you. I'll ask you this one question.

Why did you vote for yourself when you were innocent and why did you not even change it when you were around at the end of the day and you could of saved yourself? This action alone makes you harmful whether you are a villager or mafia.

[Fouts]

Let me add the thing that set me over the edge with you. I'll ask you this one question.

Why did you vote for yourself when you were innocent and why did you not even change it when you were around at the end of the day and you could of saved yourself? This action alone makes you harmful whether you are a villager or mafia.

Bingo. That is exactly what I was thinking. Why let yourself die? And that helps our village how? Just to discourage this type of play...

I vote RealDeal

[RealDeal]

Here's why i voted for myself:

If you look at WWIX, I didn't go looking for trouble with Blade. He picked me out from the start. That's OK, you got to vote for someone. But then he kept on about it, even when Digamma's PM's basically cleared me.

What I was disappointed in is that when I became angry, perhaps we both had some blame, but no one held Blade to account at all. Everyone was mad at me, and I felt like there was some blame the victim involved. If anyone had just even said, yeah RD, Blade's reasoning didnt make sense, I would have been ok. But the fact that Blade did what he did, and then I found myself taking the blame made me want to make it clear that I shouldn't have been blamed, at least not completely blamed for the problems. So at that point, I did want to get lynched to show that I was a villager.

Also, I didn't feel like it mattered much from a strategy perspective. I did, after all, get Blade killed, although i did think he was a wolf. The fact that he wasn't a wolf, made me madder, particularly when everyone was blaming me for something I didn't start.

So people weren't going to believe me anyway after I got a villager killed. But once it was revealed I was a villager, people would know that the info I gave about the CoA was true. And as it turns out, that information should be valuable to them in that game when dealing with RA.

I don't apologize for my feelings toward Blade, but I do feel bad for how it affected other people's enjoyment of that game. However, I never pulled the wrong way; I also helped the villagers, made the best votes I could, and gave true information when I had it.

It just never made sense to me why everyone ganged up on me and Blade came out smelling like roses. That upset me, but as I said before that's something that won't get brought into this game.

[Schmidty]

Here's why i voted for myself:

If you look at WWIX, I didn't go looking for trouble with Blade. He picked me out from the start. That's OK, you got to vote for someone. But then he kept on about it, even when Digamma's PM's basically cleared me.

What I was disappointed in is that when I became angry, perhaps we both had some blame, but no one held Blade to account at all. Everyone was mad at me, and I felt like there was some blame the victim involved. If anyone had just even said, yeah RD, Blade's reasoning didnt make sense, I would have been ok. But the fact that Blade did what he did, and then I found myself taking the blame made me want to make it clear that I shouldn't have been blamed, at least not completely blamed for the problems. So at that point, I did want to get lynched to show that I was a villager.

Also, I didn't feel like it mattered much from a strategy perspective. I did, after all, get Blade killed, although i did think he was a wolf. The fact that he wasn't a wolf, made me madder, particularly when everyone was blaming me for something I didn't start.

So people weren't going to believe me anyway after I got a villager killed. But once it was revealed I was a villager, people would know that the info I gave about the CoA was true. And as it turns out, that information should be valuable to them in that game when dealing with RA.

I don't apologize for my feelings toward Blade, but I do feel bad for how it affected other people's enjoyment of that game. However, I never pulled the wrong way; I also helped the villagers, made the best votes I could, and gave true information when I had it.

It just never made sense to me why everyone ganged up on me and Blade came out smelling like roses. That upset me, but as I said before that's something that won't get brought into this game.

You were a baby. Admit it, change your ways, and I think people might think better of you. Keep yapping with your same excuses, and I know that no one will respect you or want you involved in this stuff.

[jeff061]

Heh, no kidding. I wanted him to get a bit of a slap on the wrist and get voted out early here and let bygones be bygones next game. But if he really thinks his actions were justified...

Just admit you lost your cool for a stupid reason and you were a jerk suffering from martyritis and don't let it happen next time. Hell, just stop posting, you would still come off looking better.

[pennywisesb]

I'm gonna have to agree with the general populous here. In the other game you did a great job dividing the villagers with your antics RealDeal. I don't know you at all, but the attitude you showed in the last game makes me hesitant to keep you around....

[Mr. Wednesday]

This stuff is counterproductive. We're wasting a good day here.

Vote jeff061

[jeff061]

Ok. Show me a productive day 1 and I'll agree. I'd never do this 2 and beyond.

[Bearcat729]

Vote RealDeal

[RealDeal]

Like I said, I apologize to the players in WW IX for letting my feelings about Blade spill over into their enjoyment of the game. It was overboard, I admit. What I have set out is a not an excuse, but it is a reason, why I was angry:

I would never get angry at anyone simply for accusing me, let me make that very clear. That after all is the point of the game. I had followed or read all the previous WW threads and had never seen anything like what Blade did in WW IX. Everyone else seems to think I'm nuts, so maybe I am. What I saw from my perspective was a guy who misinterpreted a hint (which is OK), but then kept on it even after i made clear what the hint was (still an honest mistake?) and then piled on harder even after digamma's pm's went public (that's when I sort of went over the edge). It didn't appear to make any sense in the game, and that's what pissed me off. Then when I found out he wasn't a wolf, I really went off. Why a villager zero in on one guy like that with no evidence at all?

Then I got even more upset when I felt like everyone was mad at me, and no one even asked Blade for an explanation. It just didn't feel fair: why would every single person defend Blade? No one saw where I was coming from?

Like I said, it's a reason, albeit not an excuse. I just want to make clear I wasn't entering the game looking for trouble. If you look at WW X and even if you at WW IX up until I hit my tipping point, I wasn't trolling around or anything. In fact, I correctly identified some strange voting patterns on Day 1 with Qwik (as it turned out it was Jeff, the king, also a sorcerer, who was trying to save him)

Until I snapped, I was playing it straight, and even after I got pissed at Blade, I wasn't trying to undermine the team. My votes were real and my info was correct.

Even now, it's hard to believe that no one understands where I was coming from, but I accept it. If 15 different people each think that I didn't have any basis for being upset, I'll accept that.

If people want to register their displeasure with me by voting me out, I don't think it's right, because it's essentially doing the same thing over again by brining out of game stuff into another game, but I'll take my medicine and move on from there.

The one thing I would make clear is you are killing a villager and, at a minimum, the villagers would be well served by at least splitting the voting up some. Killing me in a bandwagon gets you nowhere in trying to win the game. You can still kill me in a way that gives you some information that doesn't leave you nowhere further along on Day 2 than you were on Day 1.

[Poli]

Were votes due tonight?

[MrBug708]

Tomorrow

[Blade6119]

ill agree that a bandwagon doesnt help, and some people are voting for jeff as well...but to address your biggest complaint

GO THROUGH THE DAY YOU GOT MY LYNCHED AFTER I ACCUSED YOU...I LISTEDA LIST OF 5 OTHER SUSPECTS, AND GAVE REASONING FOR ALL...VINCE REPEATEDLY BACKED YOU AND SAID IT WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH EVIDENCE....

I MYSELF AGREED WITH VINCE THAT IT WAS FLIMSY EVIDENCE, BUT STATED AT THE TIME THAT THAT WAS THE BEST EVIDENCE WE HAD TO GO ON...instead of presenting evidence on anyone, you voted back at me since you claimed i was stupid as your reasoning...now, in your defense, no one else posted any evidence either...if i had to better to go off of, i would have...thats why i didnt vote for you on day 2 or three, so dont give me this zero in on you crap...i had you on my suspect list, and on a day when there was nothing to go on i called you out...you not only didnt give me evidence to defend yourself besides your word(which, in warewolf games, no one's word means a damn thing until proven that they are a seer, which you didnt), you had a come-from behind vote switch with no real argument against me other then i voted for you(wolves love saving one of their own, so it added to my suspicions)...sorry, i wasnt out to get you, and you gave me no reason not to other then a claim to have the coat of arms...which frankly, doesnt mean anything until its proven by a trusted source..sorry you feel you were slighted, but i dont see how you were...all you did was retaliate against self-proclaimed flimsy evidence...instead of helping the team and giving a better option, you went off cursing and being a prick...im sorry, i dont see how you were slighted in any way..and you wanted someone to recognize my claims were weak, well all along i said they were...want me to go find it and qoute it for you??? If not, then stop whining and play the damn game with class like the rest of us.

[Schmidty]

ill agree that a bandwagon doesnt help, and some people are voting for jeff as well...but to address your biggest complaint

GO THROUGH THE DAY YOU GOT MY LYNCHED AFTER I ACCUSED YOU...I LISTEDA LIST OF 5 OTHER SUSPECTS, AND GAVE REASONING FOR ALL...VINCE REPEATEDLY BACKED YOU AND SAID IT WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH EVIDENCE....

I MYSELF AGREED WITH VINCE THAT IT WAS FLIMSY EVIDENCE, BUT STATED AT THE TIME THAT THAT WAS THE BEST EVIDENCE WE HAD TO GO ON...instead of presenting evidence on anyone, you voted back at me since you claimed i was stupid as your reasoning...now, in your defense, no one else posted any evidence either...if i had to better to go off of, i would have...thats why i didnt vote for you on day 2 or three, so dont give me this zero in on you crap...i had you on my suspect list, and on a day when there was nothing to go on i called you out...you not only didnt give me evidence to defend yourself besides your word(which, in warewolf games, no one's word means a damn thing until proven that they are a seer, which you didnt), you had a come-from behind vote switch with no real argument against me other then i voted for you(wolves love saving one of their own, so it added to my suspicions)...sorry, i wasnt out to get you, and you gave me no reason not to other then a claim to have the coat of arms...which frankly, doesnt mean anything until its proven by a trusted source..sorry you feel you were slighted, but i dont see how you were...all you did was retaliate against self-proclaimed flimsy evidence...instead of helping the team and giving a better option, you went off cursing and being a prick...im sorry, i dont see how you were slighted in any way..and you wanted someone to recognize my claims were weak, well all along i said they were...want me to go find it and qoute it for you??? If not, then stop whining and play the damn game with class like the rest of us.

Damnit, let it go. The guy's might be a jerk, but all you're doing is encouraging him. Shit.

[Mr. Wednesday]

If you want a productive whole voting record, look at the last mafia game. Surely, part of that was an unprecedented amount of early identification of who was what (thanks in part to Neon having the normal villagers know each other and a couple of villagers dying very quickly). I can't say with certainty, but I think there was some useful voting information there even from the first day.

[Bek]

This may just be new guy craziness and all but im going to say it anyways...there seems to be only one way to end this constint fight between these two..vote them both off...realdeal the first night and blade the second...then they will have had time to think about what they have done and come into the next game with clear and happy thoughts...so following that
Vote RealDeal

[jeff061]

Heh. First off its one way bickering. Blade was cool even has he was being called stupid and a moron for 3 days. Second off this can't carry through to the second day, no matter who gets voted the first night.

[pennywisesb]

Whats up guys. Just checking in real fast. I'm gonna head down south for the day and see the family so I might not be back until after the votes are due. If thats the case I better vote now, so I vote RealDeal. I wish I had some more info to go on, but since its the first day and all, thats who I'm voting for.

[Poli]

1st day vote always goes to Schmidty. I can't see jumping on the RealDeal bandwagon, and I just don't have time to read through the thread right now. I'll be on my way back to Chicago tonight when the voting ends, so I have to cast my vote now.

At least it's not going to knock you out of the game. :)

VOTE Schmidty

[RealDeal]

Well it's clear here that I'm going to be sacrificed here as a result of the Blade incident. I'm OK with that, but I would suggest that right now the bandwagon votes gives you no information to work with at all when you go into Day 2. You can kill me just as well and still get something to work with on Day 2.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I already complained about that, in fewer words, but it seems like they're more worried about getting you out than having any information to use down the road. :(

(Then again... it would be a good cover if a couple of the ringleaders were mafia, no?)

[korme]

This is a group of idiots

[Schmidty]

This is a group of idiots

Excuse me, rookie?

[dubb93]

I would have been on last night but my god. Bought a gallon of Jim Beam for myself, a buddy and two chicks we met at the park. Woke up next to one of them that wanted a commitment from me, the dumb bitch. Had to kick her ass out and noticed all the Beam was gone......now onto getting rid of this headache. I can say one thing, high school chicks are freakin stupid.

[Schmidty]

I would have been on last night but my god. Bought a gallon of Jim Beam for myself, a buddy and two chicks we met at the park. Woke up next to one of them that wanted a commitment from me, the dumb bitch. Had to kick her ass out and noticed all the Beam was gone......now onto getting rid of this headache. I can say one thing, high school chicks are freakin stupid.

...

[MrBug708]

I echo that thought...

[illinifan999]

Wait it's probably a hint about his job.

[RealDeal]

vote Jeff061

Just want to make clear that I'm not voting for Jeff for any personal reasons relating to bringing the WW IX stuff over here. I just

don't want anyone saying that I'm improperly trying get myself killed and Jeff is the only guy other than me with one than one vote. This is my best vote of self-preservation.

As I've said before, a vote that's spread out a bit helps everyone a lot more than piling on. You want to get a voting record on people. Someone has to die the first turn, and it might as well be me, but don't let yourself get sidetracked from the point of the game, which is to get info that will help you kill wolves.

[dubb93]

eh, its the truth, not married and the chicks were 18 and i'm only 20 so it ain't bad except the hangover.

[digamma]

Odds are that RealDeal isn't in the mafia. It's also almost a truism that day one votes are meaningless in terms of gaining information on future votes.

I vote Fouts. I know it's the weekend, but he's typically pretty active in these games and we haven't really heard anything from him yet.

[SnDvls]

didn't realize we started yet with my fantasy draft and all. Not much to go on but the RealDeal bandwagon. I guess I'll throw one out as well even though it looks like it's a done deal with or without me.

vote Shorty

since he was the first to say he's a villager.

[Fouts]

I did post and there isn't much to go on. I'm gonna try and stay lowkey for these things since I get killed off early all the time now.

[jeff061]

You only get killed off early cause a seer spots you :D.

[pennywisesb]

(Then again... it would be a good cover if a couple of the ringleaders were mafia, no?)

This quote got me thinking, and I understand the odds that RealDeal is probably actually a villager. So, Unvote RealDeal and for the simple fact that he hasn't said one thing since he signed up for the game, Vote Aesyrqwe

[Aesyrqwe]

vote jeff061, was no need to carry the drama over from one game to another

-Aes

edit: first WW game, forgot to bold

[jeff061]

Certainly was. He's not going to act like that again(I don't think), even if he lasts til the end of this game and I'm out the first night. Plenty worthwhile for this game and games in the future.

[jeff061]

You need to bold your vote Aes, so Neon doesn't over look it. There's a vote for Real somewhere on here that's not bolded as well.

[Poli]

Wooh! That was the fastest I've ever made the trip!

[Neon_Chaos]

Votes:

RealDeal - jeff061, Blade6119, SackAttack, dubb93, Schmidty, illinifan999, Fouts, Bek
jeff061 - Shorty3281, Mr. Wednesday, RealDeal, Aesyrqwe
Schmidty - ardent enthusiast
Fouts - digamma
Shorty3281 - SnDvls
Aesyrqwe - pennywiseweb
No Votes - MrBug708, BearCat729

With a majority vote, you all corner RealDeal inside the slaughter shed. He pleads with you, saying that he's nothing more but a simple villager and that you're making a very big mistake. Blade6119 would have none of it, and quickly grabs a cleaver. jeff061, the first to accuse, is also the first to stab. Soon enough, everyone grabs something sharp and starts cutting up RealDeal. His screams did not last long... someone cut his throat, and all you could hear now is the gurgling sound of a dying man.

You then head to his room... look around, and see nothing of note. RealDeal was a villager!

Current Players:
1. dubb93
2. ardent enthusiast
3. SackAttack
4. Fouts
5. <STRIKE>RealDeal</STRIKE> - Villager, Lynched Day 1
6. Bearcat729
7. illinifan999
8. MrBug708
9. SnDvls
10. Mr. Wednesday
11. digamma
12. bek
13. Aesyrqwe
14. Shorty3281
15. pennywisesb
16. Schmidty
17. Blade6119
18. jeff061

It is now Night (1), those of you with Night Actions, kindly send them as soon as possible. Deadline for Night Actions is at 9AM EDT.

[Poli]

:(

[RealDeal]

Medicine duly taken. Good luck villagers!

[illinifan999]

Well I guess that was kind of expected, so now we really get to see some people's analysis.

[MrBug708]

Damn, I missed the vote guys...

[SackAttack]

Well I guess that was kind of expected, so now we really get to see some people's analysis.

Agreed. Sucks that he was an innocent villager, but after seeing what happened last time and knowing that the animosity between the involved parties hasn't calmed at all, better to avert the turmoil now so the issue isn't confused when we're really getting down to the nitty-gritty.

That would be absolutely the last thing we need.

[Neon_Chaos]

You all wake up, and gather around the Village square... you notice that one man is missing. You head for Mr. Wednesday's room... he's not there. You all look around, and someone spots something in a back-alley. It is Mr. Wednesday, his body mangled, you see the marks of something that was wound tightly around his neck. What was Mr. Wednesday doing out of his house anyway?

You go back to his room, and look around. Binoculars? A notebook? You read through it... he was paranoid, apparently, and was going to look for someone, or something. He wanted to nail the Mafia, at least identify one of them. Mr. Wednesday was the Witness!

Secret Role Description:
Witness - You may choose to view a Mafia kill. If you do so, the Mafia will know who you are, and you will know the identity of one of the Mafia. This is a one-time power only.
Two innocents dead... you don't know how many they are. You do know, however, that another must die today... you can hope you get one of the Mafia today.

Current Players:
1. dubb93
2. ardent enthusiast
3. SackAttack
4. Fouts
5. <STRIKE>RealDeal</STRIKE> - Villager, Lynched Day 1
6. Bearcat729
7. illinifan999
8. MrBug708
9. SnDvls
10. <STRIKE>Mr. Wednesday</STRIKE> - Witness, Killed By Mafia Night 1
11. digamma
12. bek
13. Aesyrqwe
14. Shorty3281
15. pennywisesb
16. Schmidty
17. Blade6119
18. jeff061

Day (2) has begun! Votes due at 9PM EDT!

[Blade6119]

wow, thats crappy...losing a key role like that will make this day even more important...he voted for jeff, but couldnt have known anything on the first day...so where do we go?

[jeff061]

Yeah that sucks. I'll go back and look over the first day in a bit, see if anything jumps out.

[Poli]

FYI, I start Naval Leadership school today. Today is supposed to be the long day of the school. I don't think I'll have net access for most of the day. When I get back in, I'll review the thread and make my decision then.

Hopefully, there are two witnesses or maybe some other hidden role that helps us out here.

[illinifan999]

Wow that could be possibly the worst secret role to lose so early on. :( We really need to get lucky today and nab a mafia.

[jeff061]

Well, this is what I was going to go back and check out, just don't have time at the moment. Maybe it'll kick some discussion off.

This early I'm thinking people who were around early, though they waited a little while to vote to lose themselves in the masses. Could also be people who didn't show up until Sunday, I'm aware there are legitimate reasons for this. I don't think it would be one of the initial votes Saturday. I don't know how many Mafia there is, maybe three. I'm thinking two went against Real and one against myself.

I'll post more thoughts as I get them.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Well, that sucks. Good luck, villagers.

[jeff061]

Well doing a quick skim by what I said earlier I see Bek, Aesyrqw and Fouts(quietness is a catch-22 :)).

Bearcat did not post and did not vote...

I'm certainly no where near sure any of these guys are mafia, just trying to spark some reasoning and discussion.

[digamma]

That is a major blow. Add to that, we have almost nothing to go on for this vote. Arrghhh.

[jeff061]

Should add I looked at Pennywise and Ardent strongly, but they both ended up being the lone vote for someone. Which drops them down a peg on my suspicion scale.

[pennywisesb]

Wow. Thats a huge kill for the Mafia. Well guys, we are already two villagers down, and if we fail to lynch a mafia member today, we'll go two more down once they kill tonight. We need to get the odds back in our favor.

[MrBug708]

Doh! 2 villagers out so far. Not a good start...

[jeff061]

Heh, well 2-4 villagers to start out is fairly normal and not alarming. It's losing the witness that is a killer.

[pennywisesb]

Did Mr. Wed. give off any signs that he was a seer, or was it just a lucky kill by the mafia?

[jeff061]

Only reason I can see to kill him, other than random, is to give legitimacy to this quote:

Then again... it would be a good cover if a couple of the ringleaders were mafia, no?

Though I don't see how making yourself stand out and drawing votes is a good cover.

[illinifan999]

This is gonna be like a day 1 vote just on day 2. :(

[SnDvls]

Well we're back to square one again. down 2 with nothing to go on. hopefully someone saw someting last night

[MrBug708]

No real reason to this vote but I need to go and cant miss another day voting.

vote - Aesyrqwe

[Bearcat729]

Well doing a quick skim by what I said earlier I see Bek, Aesyrqw and Fouts(quietness is a catch-22 :)).

Bearcat did not post and did not vote...



I did vote, just didn't realize that I needed to bold my vote.

[pennywisesb]

I did vote, just didn't realize that I needed to bold my vote.

Which is exactly what a Mafian would say :p ....

[SackAttack]

Not really sure where to go here. My first thought was that it might have been just a random selection from the group that voted for jeff, and since RealDeal got lynched on the first day, taking out Mr. Wednesday reduces that group to two.

My second thought was, well, wait, no: killing somebody who voted for someone who actually IS a mafioso simply draws attention to their target. So I'd be inclined to think, at least until better information presents itself, that jeff is probably okay.

Just some initial thoughts.

[Bek]

Hey checking in before I'm off to work for the evening...which means im going to miss the vote...so I really have nothing to go off of so I'm going to stick to what I said earlier...and

Vote Blade

And to Jeff...i think ive been pretty talkative too..

[jeff061]

I did vote, just didn't realize that I needed to bold my vote.

Ah sorry, remembered the post forgot your name.

And to Jeff...i think ive been pretty talkative too..

I wasn't judging on post count.

[Fouts]

Well, just got online and I'm not sure where to vote today. After reviewing the thread, I have no information to go on besides last nights votes. Going to think about it some more.

[Aesyrqwe]

Hmm not much to go on for day two either..

I'll have my vote posted in a little bit, still need some time to think

-Aes

[SnDvls]

still not much to go on, anyone leaning one way or the other. Maybe our newspaper boy could give us a subtle hint

[pennywisesb]

Yeah, right now any information would be greatly appreciated so we don't keep lowering our numbers here villagers....

[illinifan999]

It just sucks that it feels like a day 1 vote except we already lost 2 people. :(

[pennywisesb]

Another thought, anyone hiding behind the "vote realdeal and then blade" in the first two days would be a candidate to me for being part of the mafia. Since they know who the other mafia members are, and if Blade is actually a villager, it would be a good scheme to hide behind as "trying to get rid of any drama" while taking out two villagers in the process. Just some thoughts though.

[Schmidty]

That sucked.

[Bearcat729]

I have nothing to go on, but I have got to make an official vote, and I doubt that I am going to be around before the end of the voting.

So I Vote SackAttack

[dubb93]

Should add I looked at Pennywise and Ardent strongly, but they both ended up being the lone vote for someone. Which drops them down a peg on my suspicion scale.

I don't think so, it is the perfect way to blend in. No one else that can be linked to them as far as voting patterns go, and it looks like a completely random vote. It really is the perfect way to deflect attention this early on, I always look strongly at the "lone" voters on day one.

[SnDvls]

I have nothing to go on, but I have got to make an official vote, and I doubt that I am going to be around before the end of the voting.

So I Vote SackAttack


interesting. I think Sack is actually helping us. Why would you throw a vote his way. I'd guess he's a villager with what he's given us so far. So with that being said.

Vote Bearcat729

[Poli]

I've been hoping someone could give us something to go on. I've been delaying my vote hoping to hear something of substance. I've got flag football coming up at the top of the hour, though I'm not sure we'll hear anything in the next couple of hours.

I'm going to go with blade6119. I really don't have a reason, but no one has come up with anything better thus far.

VOTE Blade6119

[digamma]

I've still got very little to add from a discussion point of view.

No real feeling on anyone thus far.

To be consistent, I'll repeat my vote from yesterday.

Vote Fouts.

I'm definitely able to be persuaded, though.

[illinifan999]

Right now I'm leaning towards bearcat for voting for Sack who seems to be helping, but I'll hold off on an official vote till a little later on to see everyone's views.

[dubb93]

What is the deal with protecting Sack? Am I missing something here? All I can see that he has done to "prove" he is a villager is Vote Realdeal, threaten Bug, say it sucks that Realdeal was just a villager, but that we are probably better of without him(agreed). And not much else. So how exactly is Sack appearing to be a villager. I highly suspect Sack, Illinifan, and Sndvls at this point.

Vote SackAttack

Something just doesn't seem right here.

[SnDvls]

My second thought was, well, wait, no: killing somebody who voted for someone who actually IS a mafioso simply draws attention to their target. So I'd be inclined to think, at least until better information presents itself, that jeff is probably okay.

Just some initial thoughts.


this is the info I was basing my "helping us" on. I think both he and jeff are a big help now with what little info we have. That's what makes me want to protect him.

[Fouts]

After thinking on it for awhile, I'm gonna vote for the quietest person in the game. I'll give everyone an hour to start posting some thoughts. How else are we going to target the right person?

Even though we lost a witness, we still have more important roles out there (and maybe another witness). I would suggest you hold your roles close to the vest, we don't want to lose another important role this early.

[jeff061]

I was considering whether or not to vote for you for the same reason, get ya to start yapping :).

[dubb93]

I'm leaving my vote on Sack and heading out for the night. I have CPR class from 6-10 so I'll be on then. Hope we get the right guy tonight, whoever that is.

[illinifan999]

It seems pretty suspect that dubb is so eager to get rid of someone who is trying to help, whatever little amount that may be especially since a lot of people are being quiet, myself included because it's pretty much anyone can be a mafia right now. I don't think we should be trying to off people who are helping. I'm really suspicious of that. But dubb is helping by so I don't want to vote him off because we could lose a potentially helpful villager so....

I'm gonna have to vote bearcat

[SackAttack]

What is the deal with protecting Sack? Am I missing something here? All I can see that he has done to "prove" he is a villager is Vote Realdeal, threaten Bug, say it sucks that Realdeal was just a villager, but that we are probably better of without him(agreed). And not much else. So how exactly is Sack appearing to be a villager. I highly suspect Sack, Illinifan, and Sndvls at this point.

Vote SackAttack

Something just doesn't seem right here.

You're right in that I haven't done a thing to prove I'm a villager (although I am).

However, for the sake of clarification:

My vote for RealDeal was solely based on the drama going on in Werewolf IX and having no desire to see something similar spill over into my first Werewolf experience.

As for Bug...I've been threatening him for weeks, even before I joined Werewolf. That's more of an inside joke between him and me than anything else. ;)

So your suspicion of me is based on a vote for RD - in which I'm not alone - and my griping at Bug because my Dodgers came perilously close to choking away a 21-game lead.

Pretty flimsy basis for suspecting me of mafia ties.

[digamma]

Pretty flimsy basis for suspecting me of mafia ties.
On the other hand, for whom is there really solid basis for suspicion?

[illinifan999]

I'm gonna back off bearcat, seems like it was just a random vote.

unvote bearcat
vote dubb

He just seems way to focused on getting someone who is trying to help out of the game.

[SackAttack]

On the other hand, for whom is there really solid basis for suspicion?

True, but that's like trying to prove a negative. "I can't prove you aren't one, so I'm going to vote for you."

I have to run off and try to conduct an interview for my journalism class. I hope to be back to read the analysis before the final deadline, and my vote may certainly change between now and then, but in the interests of self-preservation:

Vote Bearcat729.

Nothing personal.

I may be back in 20 minutes, I may be back in 3 hours. Hopefully it'll be somewhere in between.

[jeff061]

Don't believe you should be posting PM's. Generally the mod will yell at you for that :).

[SackAttack]

Don't believe you should be posting PM's. Generally the mod will yell at you for that :).

Sorry. Like I said, first-timer here. Still feeling my way around. :)

[jeff061]

No problem. I think I was the first one guilty of doing that on FOFC ;).

[digamma]

In the interests of fairness, can we get a synopsis of the pm posted?

[jeff061]

I'll delete this if Neon asks. But in fairness...

It was a quote of the villager description.

[SackAttack]

In the interests of fairness, can we get a synopsis of the pm posted?

Was just trying to confirm my villagerhood is all. I have no special role of any kind.

[Blade6119]

sackttack is currently leaning towards being a villager in my mind, and bearcat doesnt seem to see it...hence

Vote Bearcat

[SackAttack]

Dola,

My interview attempt was a whiff (the professor's office is next door, but she wasn't in, so I'm around for the duration).

[Fouts]

It has been an hour and the deadline is coming up, so I'm gonna vote for the quietest guy. Assuming the bad guys wanna stay low in the first couple days to avoid suspicion.

I vote Aesyrqwe

Jeez, hard name to type. Is that on purpose?

[SackAttack]

What is the deal with protecting Sack? Am I missing something here? All I can see that he has done to "prove" he is a villager is Vote Realdeal, threaten Bug, say it sucks that Realdeal was just a villager, but that we are probably better of without him(agreed). And not much else. So how exactly is Sack appearing to be a villager. I highly suspect Sack, Illinifan, and Sndvls at this point.

Vote SackAttack

Something just doesn't seem right here.

I've done some reflecting, and now I'm curious here. You're citing my vote for RealDeal, but after looking at the list, you voted for his lynching as well.

So other than my jibe at Bug, what logical reason exists for you to vote for me?

unvote Bearcat729.

Gonna hold off casting my final vote for a while longer.

[jeff061]

At least we got some discussion going, some of which we can possibly look back at tomorrow.

Not sure who I want to vote for yet.

[Fouts]

It is pretty clear that Sack is a villager. Makes me wonder why people haven't moved their vote off him. And makes me suspicious of them.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Don't believe you should be posting PM's. Generally the mod will yell at you for that :). &lt;rise from the grave&gt;
It's particularly unfair with role-describing PMs in a game which is indicated to have some unrevealed twists. Part of the fun is for there to be a possibility of people faking roles. If you're to prove yourself, you need to use game events, voting, and similar arguments to do it.
&lt;return to the grave&gt;

[SackAttack]

It is pretty clear that Sack is a villager. Makes me wonder why people haven't moved their vote off him. And makes me suspicious of them.

I appreciate the support.

For whatever it's worth, I believe one or possibly two of them posted earlier that they were AFK for a while, so I don't know if I'd hold that against them without knowing whether they'd change it if they were here to do so.

[jeff061]

Well here's the problem we are going to run into during the coming days, especially without the Witness(which I have been assuming is a seer role).

2 or 3 days from now there is probably going to be a couple mafia members with VERY little dirt on them and they may be active. Someone may vote them on a hunch, non mafia members should do their best not to jump over this guy.

Only reason I say this is because if people are to scared to post their hunches, for fear of being bandwagoned against, then all we will vote on pretty much is voting record and quickness to vote against an ally. I've seen bad guys ace this test(Fozzie comes to mind), this can't be the only thing to rely on.

Just wanted to get that out there, it's not meant to be a commentary on today at all.

[Aesyrqwe]

Jeez, hard name to type. Is that on purpose?
After about 20 minutes trying to come up with a name that wasnt taken for an online game, I hit the keyboard in anger.

I've been out all day, so not too much time to think things over sadly.

vote illinifan999

All I have is that youre quite quick to defend sack, which is a bit suspicious to me.

-Aes

[illinifan999]

I'm quick to defend anyone who seems to be helping our cause by putting ideas out there. :( Except for dubb who was way to quick on sack for helping.

[SackAttack]

After about 20 minutes trying to come up with a name that wasnt taken for an online game, I hit the keyboard in anger.

I've been out all day, so not too much time to think things over sadly.

vote illinifan999

All I have is that youre quite quick to defend sack, which is a bit suspicious to me.

-Aes

Your 2nd and 4th sentences seem to reflect one another quite nicely. :)

[Aesyrqwe]

Your 2nd and 4th sentences seem to reflect one another quite nicely. :)

Wait the "ive been out all day" and the reasoning to my vote? I skimmed through the posts before I made my decision

-Aes

[jeff061]

eh.

Vote Fouts

He's playing a rather careful game. Decent amount of posts, not much substance.

[illinifan999]

eh.

Vote Fouts

He's playing a rather careful game. Decent amount of posts, not much substance.
You described me to a T. :( I'm not much of an analyst. Just a lucky duke. http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

[SackAttack]

Wait the "ive been out all day" and the reasoning to my vote? I skimmed through the posts before I made my decision

-Aes

An hour and a half to go, and you're going to skim rather than read carefully before deciding who to lynch, though?

I'm not accusing you of anything, but it seems weird that you would vote to lynch based on illini defending me without reading through to see what's happened since.

[jeff061]

I'm not really thinking analytically when I say substance. Really more about taking some sort of stance, either against someone or for someone.

[illinifan999]

Gotcha.

[Aesyrqwe]

An hour and a half to go, and you're going to skim rather than read carefully before deciding who to lynch, though?

I'm not accusing you of anything, but it seems weird that you would vote to lynch based on illini defending me without reading through to see what's happened since.
I've only got about 15 minutes on the computer before I go out and eat, I don't know when I'll be back so I had to vote for someone. I do wish I had more time to read up on things and make my vote closer to the deadline though.

-Aes

[Fouts]

eh.

Vote Fouts

He's playing a rather careful game. Decent amount of posts, not much substance.

Survival? I'd like to stick around for awhile this time. If not, that's cool.

[jeff061]

Yeah I know, it sucks. The guys that bandwagon look for the things I generally ignore :).

[SackAttack]

vote dubb93

The way I see it, his vote for me goes one of three ways:

1) He's a mafioso, and playing like one: targeting the active voices to intimidate others into staying quiet rather than risk being a target.

2) He isn't one, and like the rest of us, he's grasping at straws.

3) He IS a mafioso, but is trying to seem like he's grasping at straws to deflect attention.

I hope #2 isn't the case, but absent any more likely candidates so far, I'm going to cast my ballot in his direction and hope #1 or #3 are the case.

[Fouts]

Well, I'm pretty sure jeff and sack are villagers, but I don't see anything compelling me to change my vote. Without anything substantial, we're all grasping at straws.

[jeff061]

With a lack of a seer we need to spark confrontation, I think.

[pennywisesb]

It has been an hour and the deadline is coming up, so I'm gonna vote for the quietest guy. Assuming the bad guys wanna stay low in the first couple days to avoid suspicion.

I vote Aesyrqwe

Jeez, hard name to type. Is that on purpose?

I agree, I voted for him yesterday and I'm gonna stay consistent today Vote Aesyrqwe

[Blade6119]

With a lack of a seer we need to spark confrontation, I think.

Just ask, apparently im quite good at that ;)

[Bearcat729]

Unvote Sackattack

Vote Shorty3281

Edited to add a reason.

My first vote for Sack was based on no real information, and this vote for Shorty is based on no information either, but he called us a group of idiots earlier so I think he's a little fishy.

[SackAttack]

Time to go to my final class of the day, a 3 hour Shakespearean interlude.

Mondays are gonna suck this semester. :(

Hope we get a Mafioso tonight!

[dubb93]

Alright, back early, my saying that you voted for Realdeal and threatened Bug had nothing to do with my suspecision of you. It was the fact that you had done very little so far, yet when someone voted for you 2 other people came up fast asking how someone could vote for you when you had proved you were a villager.

When I read that I went through and read again b/c to be honest I hadn't remembered a single one of your posts, so I went through, seen you had said little of note and assumed that the 2 people covering for you that you were obviously a villager were backing you for little reason. I MAY be just grasping at straws, but 3 people banding together and claiming that one of them is obviously a villager at a point when I see nothing to prove it smells fishy to me. That is the reason for the vote Sack, not anything you have done so far.

[SackAttack]

Alright, back early, my saying that you voted for Realdeal and threatened Bug had nothing to do with my suspecision of you. It was the fact that you had done very little so far, yet when someone voted for you 2 other people came up fast asking how someone could vote for you when you had proved you were a villager.

When I read that I went through and read again b/c to be honest I hadn't remembered a single one of your posts, so I went through, seen you had said little of note and assumed that the 2 people covering for you that you were obviously a villager were backing you for little reason. I'm MAY be just grasping at straws, but 3 people banding together and claiming that one of them is obviously a villager at a point when I see nothing to prove it smells fishy to me. That is the reason for the vote Sack, not anything you have done so far.

The claims of obvious villagerhood came after I posted a PM,which I didn't realize I was supposed to do, and quickly retracted. The retraction is why you don't see anything pointing to that.

But the fishy smell is probably just my clothes. I'm just a simple villager, after all!

Later, everybody!

[dubb93]

The claims of obvious villagerhood came after I posted a PM,which I didn't realize I was supposed to do, and quickly retracted. The retraction is why you don't see anything pointing to that.


That would probably be it, can anyone else back up what he is saying here?

[jeff061]

Just look a page back, the PM itself gone, but the situation is still there.

[illinifan999]

I never claimed he was a villager, I just said we shouldn't be quick to vote off someone who was helping our cause.

[illinifan999]

dola

I never saw the PM so I can't honestly tell you, I just think we need to keep on people who throw out some discussion.

[dubb93]

Alright can anyone come up with the vote count real quick and are we past the deadline?

If not

Unvote Sackattack

Vote Bek

He's done nothing.

[korme]

jeff just isn't sounding very safe. He made that first vote of the entire thing and argued that it didn't matter if we lost an innocent villager because he had a personality.

For conduct detrimental to the villagers, I vote jeff061

[dubb93]

Aesyrqwe(3)- MrBug708, Fouts, Pennywisesb
Blade(2)- Bek, Ardent
Bearcat729(2)- SnDvls, Blade
Fouts(2)- Digamma, Jeff061
Dubb93(2)- Illinifan999, SackAttack
Illinifan999(1)- Aesyrqwe
Shorty3281(1)- Bearcat729
Bek(1)- Dubb93
Jeff061(1)- Shorty3281

[jeff061]

Sigh.

What you just said is not what happened and not what I said. Think it through a little Shorty. Real had just as much chance of being mafia as anyone else. If I had a bead on anyone else, anything at all I would of gone after them. If I knew that Real was a villager I would of picked someone else, likely randomly.

It's day one voting. There is no good reason to vote on anyone.

And, the deadline passed 45 minutes ago.

[dubb93]

And, the deadline passed 45 minutes ago.

Thats what I was looking for, so 9 EDT, would be 8 here. Thanks.

[jeff061]

But I understand what you're thinking, I have a similar attitude about that kind of thing ;).

[Schmidty]

Vote Shorty

[Fouts]

Aesyrqwe(3)- MrBug708, Fouts, Pennywisesb
Blade(2)- Bek, Ardent
Bearcat729(2)- SnDvls, Blade
Fouts(2)- Digamma, Jeff061
Dubb93(2)- Illinifan999, SackAttack
Illinifan999(1)- Aesyrqwe
Shorty3281(1)- Bearcat729
Bek(1)- Dubb93
Jeff061(1)- Shorty3281

One thing this vote tells me is, we have no idea and no cohesion. I think we're going to need some help dividing the people up.

[Neon_Chaos]

Deadline was at 9PM EDT. Votes later than that will not count.

Aesyrqwe - MrBug708, Fouts, pennywiseweb
Blade6119 - Bek, ardent enthusiast
SackAttack - dubb93
Bearcat729 - SnDvls, Blade6119
Fouts - digamma, jeff061
dubb93 - illinifan999, SackAttack
illinifan999 - Aesyrqwe
Shorty3281 - Bearcat729

Uncounted votes:
dubb93 switches from SackAttack to Bek
Shorty3281 votes for jeff061
Schmidty votes for Shorty3281

You all argue about who to kill today. Until at the end of the day, you finally decide to gang up on Aesyrqwe. It is a bloody sight as his screams fill the slaughter shed. Soon, all that's left of him is ke-bob. You all head to his room... look around, and see that he's nothing suspicious. Aesyrqwe was a Villager!

Current Players:
1. dubb93
2. ardent enthusiast
3. SackAttack
4. Fouts
5. <STRIKE>RealDeal</STRIKE> - Villager, Lynched Day 1
6. Bearcat729
7. illinifan999
8. MrBug708
9. SnDvls
10. <STRIKE>Mr. Wednesday</STRIKE> - Witness, Killed By Mafia Night 1
11. digamma
12. bek
13. <strike>Aesyrqwe</strike> - Villager, Lynched Day 2
14. Shorty3281
15. pennywisesb
16. Schmidty
17. Blade6119
18. jeff061

Night (2) has begun! Kindly send in your night actions as soon as possible. Deadline is 9AM EDT.

[Fouts]

Damn, there goes my theory of bad guys laying low. Sorry about that Aesyrqwe.

[illinifan999]

So yet again back to square 1 with very little to go on. :(

[MrBug708]

Damn, there went a villager...

[pennywisesb]

Damn, there goes my theory of bad guys laying low. Sorry about that Aesyrqwe.

Damnit. I ditto this comment. I figured the best thing the mafioso could do would be to lay low. Apparently I've been fooled.

[MrBug708]

Who says they aren't laying low? The voting was spread out enough that we won't be able to tell further until a few days later...

[Schmidty]

Poopy.

[Poli]

:(

[dubb93]

Well that was a mess, now who wants to admit they are with the mafia?

[illinifan999]

^^^

That's my line! :D

[Neon_Chaos]

You all wake up, dreading what could be waiting for you in the morning. Who would be dead? As you all head to the village square, you see that everyone is still alive. You feel uneasy... noone died last night? This could be a portent of good things, or bad things. The Mafia is among you, you know this... and so you must kill one more today.

Current Players:
1. dubb93
2. ardent enthusiast
3. SackAttack
4. Fouts
5. <STRIKE>RealDeal</STRIKE> - Villager, Lynched Day 1
6. Bearcat729
7. illinifan999
8. MrBug708
9. SnDvls
10. <STRIKE>Mr. Wednesday</STRIKE> - Witness, Killed By Mafia Night 1
11. digamma
12. bek
13. <STRIKE>Aesyrqwe</STRIKE> - Villager, Lynched Day 2
14. Shorty3281
15. pennywisesb
16. Schmidty
17. Blade6119
18. jeff061

Day (3) has begun! Votes are due at 9PM EDT.

[Blade6119]

You all wake up, dreading what could be waiting for you in the morning. Who would be dead? As you all head to the village square, you see that everyone is still alive. You feel uneasy... noone died last night? This could be a portent of good things, or bad things. The Mafia is among you, you know this... and so you must kill one more today.

Day (3) has begun! Votes are due at 9PM EDT.

Sounds like we got bribing going on...crap, now we could have as many as four...im hesitent to post my views though because ill get lynched afterwards like last game

[Blade6119]

especially without the Witness(which I have been assuming is a seer role).

The witness could one time only view the night killing and discover the indentity of one mafia member...on the downside, they would all know who he was...he wasnt our seer, but he was useful

[illinifan999]

There's bribing? Maybe someone had a special event where they cancelled out the kill?

[Poli]

Sounds like we got bribing going on...crap, now we could have as many as four...im hesitent to post my views though because ill get lynched afterwards like last game
I was thinking they found the lost son..though a bribe fits. Wasn't there bribes in the last game?

[SackAttack]

Or else the Mafia figured "Hell, they aren't onto us yet anyway, why risk exposing ourselves? Let 'em do it themselves."

(Can they do that?)