NFL Week 2 Discussion

[cthomer5000]

Please let the Jets actually show up today.

[Coffee Warlord]

Orton throws for 300 and 4 td's.

You heard it here first.

(And probably last.)

[DeToxRox]

Rob .. Aren't you pumped we got Buck and Aikman to announce?

It just shows Detroit gets some respect. No more Tim Green and Kurt Menfee for us!

[korme]

Go Bengals!

[Darkiller]

49ers upset the Eagles in Philly and go 2-0

[RendeR]

Bengals in a shootout over the Vikes.

[cthomer5000]

Jets are the late game and Giants are on Monday night, so we'll get at least one good game for a change!

New England @ Carolina on CBS... not sure if FOX is showing a game yet.

edit: bleh... San Fran @ Philly on FOX

[Tekneek]

Please let the Jets actually show up today.

Go Dolphins!

Panthers over Patriots, hopefully!

[DeToxRox]

Yes. Detroit area gets Colts/Jag as our CBS game.

Too bad our only afternoon game is Green Bay vs Cleveland. Hopefully the Bray plays more for our benefit.

[Bearcat729]

Well the Bengals started quick

[DeToxRox]

Ugh. Nice play by Scott. Lucky bounce for the INT but nice deflection to start it.

[CHEMICAL SOLDIER]

Tim Rattay's qQuest for Immortality starts now!

[Antmeister]

Drew Brees throws 3 touchdowns and Ladanian Tomlinson rushes for 2 touchdowns as the Chargers destroy the Broncos to redeem themselves from week 1's loss.

[DeToxRox]

YES! TOUCHDOWN ROY!

[DeToxRox]

Beautiful pass. First play after a TD, amazing.

[Cringer]

VIKINGS SUCK! Woohoo!! 14-0 Bengals

Detroit even with, nice.

[Solecismic]

Brady looks a bit shaky against Carolina. This could be a better game than anticipated.

[Bearcat729]

I really wish I had direct tv and NFL sunday ticket

[HomerJSimpson]

Brady looks a bit shaky against Carolina. This could be a better game than anticipated.

You didn't expect a good game? These are the two teams that many people believe will be playing Superbowl Sunday.

[Cringer]

So the Bills wearing these uniforms all year? I thought it was just a one week thing. Cool, I like them.

[Coffee Warlord]

Doug Brien just gained a bunch of brownie points in Chicago. Nice 48 yarder.

[Passacaglia]

Rob .. Aren't you pumped we got Buck and Aikman to announce?

It just shows Detroit gets some respect. No more Tim Green and Kurt Menfee for us!

While I get what you mean, it's hard to get excited about Buck and Aikman.

[Solecismic]

You didn't expect a good game? These are the two teams that many people believe will be playing Superbowl Sunday.

I don't see it. The Panthers have a weak offensive line, questions at running back, and a very suspect secondary. Add the Jenkins injury, and I was figuring they'd be a .500 team.

[Cringer]

Taylor fakes a pitch to Matt Jones, and then does it later on the run for a fumble. Lucky Jones recovered it. Looks like a designed play though, Fred Taylor was looking for the pitch the whole time.

Getting tricky with Matt Jones. maybe one of my favortie players right now in the league.

[Bearcat729]

Bengals have a TD called back on a holding penalty

[cthomer5000]

HUGE play by Troy Brown just now. Caught a pass in the flat and no-one was near him. Must have been a 70 yard gain before being knocked out at the 1.

edit: yeah, 71 yard play.

[Passacaglia]

ooh, Benson in.

[Cringer]

HUGE play by Troy Brown just now. Caught a pass in the flat and no-one was near him. Must have been a 70 yard gain before being knocked out at the 1.

He was running his ass off. Nice blown coverage.

[HomerJSimpson]

Taylor fakes a pitch to Matt Jones, and then does it later on the run for a fumble. Lucky Jones recovered it. Looks like a designed play though, Fred Taylor was looking for the pitch the whole time.

Getting tricky with Matt Jones. maybe one of my favortie players right now in the league.



I think he is going to be what "Slash" should have been....a great reciever with add threats.

[Schmidty]

Stupid Sunday Ticket isn't tuning in any of the FOX games, including the Lions. Not only that, but DirecTV won't answer their phones. :mad:

[HomerJSimpson]

I don't see it. The Panthers have a weak offensive line, questions at running back, and a very suspect secondary. Add the Jenkins injury, and I was figuring they'd be a .500 team.


I honestly hope your right, but I think you might be under-estimating them a bit.

[Passacaglia]

Dude, someone stole Brien's brownies.

[DeToxRox]

Big missed FG for Chicago.

Lions need to get this going. It's been one big play but thats it.

[Coffee Warlord]

Ouch. Ogunleye is down.

[cthomer5000]

Nice grab by Tecmo Proehl in the Panthers game.

[Icy]

WOW McNabb and Owens and going to give me huge points in the euro fofc fantasy this week!

[Coffee Warlord]

Thank GOD that was called back, but damn was that a helluva catch.

[Passacaglia]

Crappy call on Mike Williams.

[HomerJSimpson]

Proehl makes a good catch, which makes me think...anyone see the Fox erport on how Proehl was talked out of retiring by Smith? Smith says he is a great player/coach for him. He went so far as begging Proehl's wife to talk gim into staying.

[Cringer]

Thank GOD that was called back, but damn was that a helluva catch.

He pushed the DB back a little. Looks like flag material to me unfortunetly.

[DeToxRox]

I dunno what was more amazing. That catch or that horrible call.

[DeToxRox]

YES! REDEMPTION!

[Coffee Warlord]

He pushed the DB back a little. Looks like flag material to me unfortunetly.

Eh, even I'll admit that was a weak call.

However, just got themselves a free first on an equally shitty call. Piss.

[Solecismic]

Stephen Davis with the Charles White Rose Bowl Special.

[DeToxRox]

Eh, even I'll admit that was a weak call.

However, just got themselves a free first on an equally shitty call. Piss.

I'd take the first on the 44 yard gain over the first on a 5 yard gain.

[Coffee Warlord]

I'd take the first on the 44 yard gain over the first on a 5 yard gain.

Don't matter, cause Harrington's due for a fumble. :)

[Passacaglia]

Stephen Davis with the Charles White Rose Bowl Special.

Thanks for pandering to the midwestern crowd dominating this thread. :D

[Cringer]

Eh, even I'll admit that was a weak call.

However, just got themselves a free first on an equally shitty call. Piss.

I have seen guys called for less, and guys do more and not get called. So who knows I guess.

When he put that hand back though, you can see there was some force to it as the DB slowed and went back a touch. I dunno....

Nice phantom TD in Carolina.

[Cringer]

And since no one has mentioned these games....

Tennessee up 10-0 on Baltimore.

Bills-Bucs = 0-0

Jags-Colts = 0-0

Steelers up 17-0 already on Houston

[cthomer5000]

Might be time to let Capers go in Houston.

[HomerJSimpson]

Steelers up 17-0 already on Houston


Two td's to Ward already! Yeah, baby!

[Coffee Warlord]

Might be time to let Capers go in Houston.

I hear Wannestadt might be available soon. :)

[JeeberD]

I love seeing the Texans get spanked... :D

[HomerJSimpson]

I hear Wannestadt might be available soon. :)


That's just cruel.

[Solecismic]

I'm wondering if Ziggy Wilf is regretting trading Randy Moss yet.

[Bearcat729]

I wonder if this is really that the Bengals are very good on offense or that the Vikings are really that bad on defense.

[Coffee Warlord]

BOBBY WADE!

[Cringer]

Damn I hate the Bears. Punt return for a TD

[Schmidty]

Let the Orlovsky era begin in Detroit.......

[Coffee Warlord]

Hey, it's one way for Detroits defense to get more of a rest.

[Passacaglia]

Let the Orlovsky era begin in Detroit.......

And you accuse Michigan fans of being fair-weather.

[Cringer]

I would say Boller gets his job back when he is ready. Anthony Wright just stands there and gets nailed by Bullock. Wright is getting hammered.

[Solecismic]

Meanwhile, the quarterback lines in Philly:

Rattay, 1-6, 4 yds, 0 TD, 2 Int.
McNabb, 15-20, 244 yds, 4 TD, 0 Int.

The 49ers have settled back into reality.

[RendeR]

Wright is an aweful QB, Boller isn't much better. I'm glad the so-called Offensive Einstein in baltimore is having his pet projects shredded before his eyes. I never could stand Billeck or the Ravens for that matter.

[Darkiller]

Rattay is just awful so far.

[Schmidty]

And you accuse Michigan fans of being fair-weather.

I'm fair weather? I've been watching Harrington stink it up since 2002. He's had enough time, and I've supported him. Simply put, he's not accurate enough to be a starting NFL QB. Period.

[cthomer5000]

Outstanding INT by LB Will Witherspoon of Carolina.

[HomerJSimpson]

Amazing pluck by Witherspoon.

[Bearcat729]

Another fumble, glad I started the Bengals defense today on my fantasy team.

[Dutch]

Rattay, 1-6, 4 yds, 0 TD, 2 Int.

He's doing better than the Bills Lossman. Barely.

J. Losman 1/7 4 0 0

[cthomer5000]

By the way, for those who missed it, LB Gary Brackett was named defensive player of the week in the NFL. Undrafted 3rd year guy from Rutgers.

[cthomer5000]

two-run homer in Tampa.

[Cringer]

Damn, Tampa just scored a TD. Alstott runs it in from the one. I was hoping the Bucs could just hang on to the 2-0 lead they had for the rest of the game. lol

[sovereignstar]

I'm wondering if Ziggy Wilf is regretting trading Randy Moss yet.

What did Ziggy Wilf have to do with the trade? His name wasn't even mentioned as a possible owner until way after the trade.

[Passacaglia]

I'm fair weather? I've been watching Harrington stink it up since 2002. He's had enough time, and I've supported him. Simply put, he's not accurate enough to be a starting NFL QB. Period.

It's definitely not that simple. For him to be that accurate, the O-line needs to provide much better protection.

[Bearcat729]

What's going on in Indy. It's 0-0 in the second quarter?

[Northwood_DK]

That was 3 interceptions by Rattay. Will they use Smith today?

[cthomer5000]

The Eagles are beating the 49ers like they owe them money.

[RendeR]

Bengals shutting out Cuplepeper and the Vikings, who'd-a-thunk-it.....

[Schmidty]

It's definitely not that simple. For him to be that accurate, the O-line needs to provide much better protection.

Other QBs have had bad O-lines and have been much more accurate. I don't buy it.

[Cringer]

Roy Williams just screwed Harrington.

[Schmidty]

Another "accurate" throw by Joey. :rolleyes:

[dubb93]

What's going on in Indy. It's 0-0 in the second quarter?

Neither QB has any time to throw the ball.

[Solecismic]

What did Ziggy Wilf have to do with the trade? His name wasn't even mentioned as a possible owner until way after the trade.

Really? I would have figured these things take a long time behind the scenes. Usually, a perspective owner has some say. But I may be wrong in this case.

Kasay is a damn fine kicker.

[sovereignstar]

Really? I would have figured these things take a long time behind the scenes. Usually, a perspective owner has some say. But I may be wrong in this case.

Well the Moss trade went down when the whole Reggie Fowler situation was up in the air. If anything, he may have had an impact on the trade.

But probably not, because he made it well-known that he was against any Moss trade.

[Cringer]

Really? I would have figured these things take a long time behind the scenes. Usually, a perspective owner has some say. But I may be wrong in this case.

Kasay is a damn fine kicker.

Wilf came in at the last minute, long after the trade was done. The guy from AZ, can't remember his name but he was to be the first black owner, was the main guy. And even he had no say in it though it looked like he was buying the team. Prospective owners have no say pretty much.....

[Bearcat729]

Uh oh Chad Johnson just got up limping and then fell to the ground in Cincy

[dubb93]

And another sack for the colts...

[Coffee Warlord]

What in the holy hell was that little fiasco by the Bears O-Line.

"Oh. Yeah. We're supposed to actually block."

[Passacaglia]

And another sack for the colts...

Looks like they're at halftime. Was it on a hail mary?

[RendeR]

I heart Carson Palmer.

[Passacaglia]

Damn. Nice throw by Orton.

[Bearcat729]

Troy Williamson looks bad returning kicks

[cthomer5000]

76 yard punt return by Chris Gamble in the Panthers game, down to around the 12 yard line.

[Cringer]

I'm thinking I don't like this Orton guy.

[DeToxRox]

This is the worst I've seen the Lions play in a long, long time.

[cthomer5000]

I heart Carson Palmer.
He's doing me well in both my fantasy leagues today. Thank god I benched Pennington in favor of him.

[chinaski]

I hate the NW, all i get is this crappy Hou/Pitt game - Does Houston have the worst offense ever to take the field in the NFL? this shit is embarrassing!

[Coffee Warlord]

Wow. That was a damn strike by Orton.

Telling you, it's really starting to look like they found a quarterback in Chicago.

[Cringer]

This is the worst I've seen the Lions play in a long, long time.

Surely you jest. :p

[Bearcat729]

Does Houston have the worst offense ever to take the field in the NFL? this shit is embarrassing!


Nope Cleveland was worse last season.

[Solecismic]

That was 3 interceptions by Rattay. Will they use Smith today?

I think it would be a mistake. The Eagles have an aggressive defense, you don't want to hurt your future franchise player's confidence like that.

Smith didn't look good in the preseason. He has a way to go. Remember, he came from Utah, and the level of competition he faced in college was much lower than most top quarterbacks. His development will take a couple of years.

[Cringer]

http://espn.starwave.com/i/nfl/profiles/players/statsid/s6358.jpg

http://espn.starwave.com/i/nfl/profiles/players/statsid/s7282.jpg

Am I the only one who thinks these two look a little alike?

Hopefully Orton proves to have the same injury problem. :D

[Cringer]

Harrington is getting worse with each snap I think.

[Schmidty]

Orlovsky please.

Pass, are ya gonna defend this bum again?

[Dutch]

I think it would be a mistake. The Eagles have an aggressive defense, you don't want to hurt your future franchise player's confidence like that.

Smith didn't look good in the preseason. He has a way to go. Remember, he came from Utah, and the level of competition he faced in college was much lower than most top quarterbacks. His development will take a couple of years.

And don't forget the Eagles love their rookie QB's.

http://www.joncouture.com/EliSlam.jpg

[Poli]

Is that 31 points for Chicago?

[cthomer5000]

LOL. It's awesome that Mark Simoneau kicked the last extra point for Philly.

[INDalltheway]

Kyle Orton baby! I think I am going to have to become a Bears fan (my 2nd team) because he is from PURDUE!

The Colts offense is way too predictable today...

[Passacaglia]

Orlovsky please.

Pass, are ya gonna defend this bum again?

Nah. While I can see putting in Orlovsky today, I think naming him the starter for the rest of the season is throwing in the towel.

[Bubba Wheels]

Note to Joey Harrington: You are not the problem, so don't let the idiots that think a country boils down to only the President and a football team boils down to only a quarterback get you down. Relax, collect your paycheck and be content to get set down eventually for the next false-hope that attempts to play qb for the Chicago Cubs of the NFL.

[Tekneek]

The Colts offense is way too predictable today...

They didn't do too much in the first half against the Ravens, either. Let's see what happens now.

[Schmidty]

Nah. While I can see putting in Orlovsky today, I think naming him the starter for the rest of the season is throwing in the towel.

I think allowing the abortion that is Joey Harrington play any more snaps this season is throwing in the towel. He's a loser, plain and simple.

[INDalltheway]

Note to Joey Harrington: You are not the problem, so don't let the idiots that think a country boils down to only the President and a football team boils down to only a quarterback get you down. Relax, collect your paycheck and be content to get set down eventually for the next false-hope that attempts to play qb for the Chicago Cubs of the NFL.
:D The aren't the loveable losers though.. No one cares about the Lions outside of Lions fans... And they weren't one game from the championship recently..

[Passacaglia]

:D The aren't the loveable losers though.. No one cares about the Lions outside of Lions fans... And they weren't one game from the championship recently..

92 wasn't THAT long ago. :p

[cthomer5000]

The Lions should get Vinny Testeverde, Jeff George, Elvis Grbac, Tim Couch, and anyone else available on the phone.

[jeff061]

The Pats offense has looked horrible. Drops and Brady missing wide open guys. Two games in a row Dillon's been a non factor.

[Passacaglia]

The Lions should get Vinny Testeverde, Jeff George, Elvis Grbac, Tim Couch, and anyone else available on the phone.

I bet Ty Detmer is available.

[cthomer5000]

I bet Ty Detmer is available.
By trade only. Isn't he the #2 in Atlanta?

[CHEMICAL SOLDIER]

The Cats d looks pretty touggh.

[Bubba Wheels]

:D The aren't the loveable losers though.. No one cares about the Lions outside of Lions fans... And they weren't one game from the championship recently..

Yes, that and the Lions don't have a Steve Bartman to blame it all on. :D

[Cringer]

See, here is why I was hoping Harrington and the Lions kicked the Bears' asses today.

I was hoping that if they put up a bunch of points on the Bears, then I could feel better about my Packers defense, who I thought played better then expected last week against the Lions. Now I have to think of a new reason to feel better....

[Cringer]

The Cats d looks pretty touggh.

Cats?

Would this be Panthers, Lions, or Bengals?

edit: or Jaguars?

[Tekneek]

By trade only. Isn't he the #2 in Atlanta?

The #3 in Atlanta.

[timmynausea]

The Lions should actually stick with Joey and ensure they get Leinart.

[Bubba Wheels]

The Lions should get Vinny Testeverde, Jeff George, Elvis Grbac, Tim Couch, and anyone else available on the phone.

Wouldn't matter if Joe Namath in his prime came along to play for the Lions, those blue shirts taking a Sunday afternoon nap in the three-point are supposed to be blocking.

[HomerJSimpson]

By trade only. Isn't he the #2 in Atlanta?


#3.


oops. Tek beat me.

[Eaglesfan27]

Why didn't I start Stephen Davis today in my fantasy league? :(

[Solecismic]

I've lost a lot of confidence in Harrington, but it's not all his fault. With all that receiving talent on the field at once, you need a very inventive set of plays to take advantage of constant mismatches.

[timmynausea]

It's 31-6 at the half. I don't know what Lions fans are so worried about. They could easily score 25 points... over the next month or so.

[kcchief19]

I'm assuming that it is because he is likable off the field and has some friends, but I've never understood why the NFL puts up with cheap shots of Rodney Harrison. He's not as bad as Bill Romanowski, but I have no respect for Harrison as great a player as he is because he's such a cheap shot artist. Ripping Davis' helmet off is just the icing on the cake.

[Solecismic]

Every time Harrison does something like that, the referees watch him a little closer.

By and large, he's tuned down the nasty stuff in New England, but every once in a while, he pulls a stunt like that.

He is always around the ball. Just freakish in that respect. That's why Belichick puts up with it. But the act did wear thin in San Diego. They never would have let him go otherwise.

[Tekneek]

He will get suspended this season. It's a tradition.

[WSUCougar]

Where are all the fans for the Carolina game? Looks like a Arizona Cardinals home game (no offense). Weird.

[korme]

I love this team.

I didn't know that 'since late November Carson Palmer is the NFL's Highest Rated Passer'

[Solecismic]

Just an inexcusable mistake by Delhomme.

[WSUCougar]

Jake should play for Georgetown.

[Easy Mac]

Vrabel goes on my asshole list. Runs over to the stands and get ready to throw the ball to the stands. Instead he stops and turns around. Seriously, your job is to play football, no taunt the fans. If this were Randy Moss, it would be all over TV the next week.

[kcchief19]

Well the Moss trade went down when the whole Reggie Fowler situation was up in the air. If anything, he may have had an impact on the trade.

But probably not, because he made it well-known that he was against any Moss trade. Odd, because the rumor outside Minnesota was that the prospective ownership wanted Moss gone and wanted it done on McCombs watch so that they wouldn't have to take the heat from the fans as part of the deal. That was during the timeframe of the aborted Fowler effort, I believe, but Fowler's still a part-owner, isn't he? But it makes you wonder exactly what involvement Wilf had or whether his private feelings are different than his public feelings.

Regardless, man the Vikings are sucking.

[Passacaglia]

I love this team.

I didn't know that 'since late November Carson Palmer is the NFL's Highest Rated Passer'

Who is it since early November?

[Solecismic]

Why didn't I start Stephen Davis today in my fantasy league? :(

Looks bad. This might have been your last chance. Or not. Didn't even miss a play.

[Tekneek]

Vrabel goes on my asshole list. Runs over to the stands and get ready to throw the ball to the stands. Instead he stops and turns around. Seriously, your job is to play football, no taunt the fans. If this were Randy Moss, it would be all over TV the next week.

I thought the Patriots were supposed be all class and not into theatrics?

[Passacaglia]

Nice job by the Lions on 4th and 1.

"You take it."

"No, you take it!"

[TroyF]

Just an inexcusable mistake by Delhomme.


Without a doubt. He had plenty of time in the pocket. He just cannot make that pass. Horrible.

That said, this is the second week in a row I'm watching Corey Dillon go down with touch tackles. It's also the second week in a row I'm watching NE not make any solid in game adjustements on the offensive side of the ball.

They are still the favorites and they are still a great team. . . but they are doing a lot of "little" things wrong that they haven't done the last few years.

[kcchief19]

Delhomme shows all the signs of getting ready to hand this game to New England. He's looking awful right now.

Can anyone with the Indy/Jacksonville game explain what's happening? I know it's not raining. As good as Jacksonville's defense looks like it maybe, it's unbelieveable that they could hold the Colts scoreless for the quarters.

[kcchief19]

Nice job by the Lions on 4th and 1.

"You take it."

"No, you take it!" I'll say it.

BRING BACK WAYNE FONTES!

[Northwood_DK]

49ers 3<SUP>rd</SUP> quarter:

18 pass attempts (10 completed)
2 run by Barlow for 3yds

[HomerJSimpson]

Peppers, don't celebrate while someone has his hands on you!

[HomerJSimpson]

Looks bad. This might have been your last chance.


Guess not. That was a good run there.

[TroyF]

Delhomme shows all the signs of getting ready to hand this game to New England. He's looking awful right now.

Can anyone with the Indy/Jacksonville game explain what's happening? I know it's not raining. As good as Jacksonville's defense looks like it maybe, it's unbelieveable that they could hold the Colts scoreless for the quarters.


It was said earlier in the thread. Neither QB has any time at all to throw the football. Jax is playing NE style football against them. Aggressive, bump and run coverage, not a lot of blitzing. There are seemingly seven white shirts on every tackle. To put it simply, the Jags D looks almost exactly like the Pats D of the last couple of years.

Colts are driving now, mostly on the strength of Edge. They'll score 6 in a sec.

[HomerJSimpson]

BTW, why wasn't that fumble challenged. It looked like the right call, but it was very close.

[RendeR]

Minnesota has run exactly THREE plays from the bengals side of the 50 yard line today.

Thats one swet defensive effort!

[miami_fan]

Delhomme shows all the signs of getting ready to hand this game to New England. He's looking awful right now.

Can anyone with the Indy/Jacksonville game explain what's happening? I know it's not raining. As good as Jacksonville's defense looks like it maybe, it's unbelieveable that they could hold the Colts scoreless for the quarters.

The Jags are playing out of their minds on D. They have been getting big time pressure on Manning. That said James has been running the ball right down there throat this drive.

[TroyF]

Colts 3rd and goal at the 5. Injury time out as Stroud is on the ground injured. I'm not sure how serious. That would be a devastating blow for Jax if it is serious.

[Solecismic]

Without a doubt. He had plenty of time in the pocket. He just cannot make that pass. Horrible.

That said, this is the second week in a row I'm watching Corey Dillon go down with touch tackles. It's also the second week in a row I'm watching NE not make any solid in game adjustements on the offensive side of the ball.

They are still the favorites and they are still a great team. . . but they are doing a lot of "little" things wrong that they haven't done the last few years.

I disagree. Belichick is the master of adjustment. Brady is just having a terrible game and Carolina is taking away the run. And Light just got beat - he's usually very solid.

Just call it an early wake-up call.

[kcchief19]

When I saw it live, I wasn't sure whether Peppers committed pass interference before he was tackled. On the replay, It seemed pretty one sided.

[cthomer5000]

stop the fade route! stop the madness people.

[TroyF]

17th play of the drive for the Colts, 3rd and 5, draw to Carthon, Touchdown.

[HomerJSimpson]

stop the fade route! stop the madness people.



And when they run it, they score.

[Schmidty]

Dirty play. Brown should get a long suspension. Bullshit.

[miami_fan]

Wow smashmouth drive by the Colts.

[Schmidty]

Now that bitch is smiling. I hope someone kicks his ass.

[Schmidty]

Dola

That hit was a perfect example of Harrington's terrible accuracy. He hangs his WRs out waaay too much.

[Poli]

The Lions should get Vinny Testeverde, Jeff George, Elvis Grbac, Tim Couch, and anyone else available on the phone.
Gary Hogeboom is apparently looking for work.

[bronconick]

Dola

That hit was a perfect example of Harrington's terrible accuracy. He hangs his WRs out waaay too much.
Bingo. Hey, another pick.

Nice throw off your back foot, Joey.

[Schmidty]

4 Ints for Harrington. Please cut his ass.

[timmynausea]

Drafting Joey Harrington was like opening the candy bar and getting a golden ticket to top ten draft picks for as long as you keep him around.

[INDalltheway]

OMG.. Leftwich... That was horrible.

[TroyF]

I disagree. Belichick is the master of adjustment. Brady is just having a terrible game and Carolina is taking away the run. And Light just got beat - he's usually very solid.

Just call it an early wake-up call.


Not saying he isn't Jim, but I'm just observing from the first two games of the year. IN both the Patriots offense has been MUCH better in the first half than the second. As the games have went along, the offense has gotten worse and worse.

Against the Raiders, I can understand it, the Pats were blowing them out and got a bit conservative. This week it's something they needed. Their first two drives of the second half netted 35 yards on 16 plays. That's not the adjustments I'm used to seeing out of them.

[AlexB]

Ouch - Leftwich just got crunched

[RendeR]

WHOOOOT, O'Neil picks it in the endzone to preserve the shutout!!!!

[Northwood_DK]

Detmer just went on a 9/9, 94yds drive to make it 42-3

[Cringer]

Ouch - Leftwich just got crunched

he walked off though, thats good I hope.

that was nasty

[AlexB]

Detmer just went on a 9/9, 94yds drive to make it 42-3

Thank God for that - McNabb is killing my Carson Palmer performance in my FL

[Solecismic]

Not saying he isn't Jim, but I'm just observing from the first two games of the year. IN both the Patriots offense has been MUCH better in the first half than the second. As the games have went along, the offense has gotten worse and worse.

Against the Raiders, I can understand it, the Pats were blowing them out and got a bit conservative. This week it's something they needed. Their first two drives of the second half netted 35 yards on 16 plays. That's not the adjustments I'm used to seeing out of them.

No question they're not getting it done in the second half. I think they've called the right plays, though. I've never seen Brady so flustered and inaccurate. Schmidty would be calling for Harrington to replace him if he were a Pats fan. This is the worst game I've seen him play, period.

[Schmidty]

The way the Lions have simply given up on defense as well doesn't reflect well on Mooch either. This team has shown no heart, no character, and no fire. That goes back to the coach in my opinion. If the season continues like this, it's time to cut Mooch and his overly-conservative ways loose.

[cthomer5000]

I'll tell you, this Harrington kid is going to be something special.

[Schmidty]

Schmidty would be calling for Harrington to replace him if he were a Pats fan. This is the worst game I've seen him play, period.

That's true, but only because he went to U-M. ;)

[kcchief19]

And the Alex Smith Era begins in San Francisco.

[Northwood_DK]

1-10-SF 23 (3:37) #11 Alex Smith in at QB for San Francisco. K.Barlow right end to SF 26 for 3 yards (D.Wynn).

[Cringer]

So the Vikings blow again this week. As much joy as this gives me, I am sad because Tice is one week closer to being fired. Maybe the new owner will bring in Rich Kotite. Otherwise I want Tice to stay.

[Solecismic]

That's true, but only because he went to U-M. ;)

Somewhere in your past, a Wolverine alum stole the true love of your life, didn't he?

[Schmidty]

5 INTS. WOOOHOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Poli]

Someone get a call the fire department. Harrington's on fire!

[TroyF]

No question they're not getting it done in the second half. I think they've called the right plays, though. I've never seen Brady so flustered and inaccurate. Schmidty would be calling for Harrington to replace him if he were a Pats fan. This is the worst game I've seen him play, period.


Can't argue with you there and if this were the first game of the year, I'd just chalk it up to a poor game by Brady. But the two things I took out of the first game they played this year was:

1) Dillon looks horrible.
2) The offense got worse as the game progressed against a pretty horrific defense.

Therefore those were the two things I had my eye on today. And bad game by Brady or not, I really expected improvement on both counts today. game isn't over and they can surprise me, but I'm not seeing a lot of open WR out there, I'm not seeing a running game and I'm not seeing this team adjust at all to the defensive schemes Carolina are throwing at them.

We'll see how all of these things look next week. I'm not saying they won't be fixed and I'm not saying the Pats won't end up winning it all off of just this. . . but it't really striking to me how bad they really look.

One more thing. . . while we know Brady won't be that bad all year, what's going on with Dillon? He looks horrible.

[AlexB]

Leftwich is a tough kid - he's coming back in: I thought he done most of his lower leg in that last hit... He is limping pretty heavily, but gotta admire his guts

[TroyF]

Jax down 7 to Indy. 1:44 left, a hobbled Leftwich starting on his own 28. will the comeback kid be golden again, or will the Colts crush him?

I like Leftwich, but I'm betting on the Colts here.

[Poli]

Friggin Chicago cable. I have Bears/Lions and my only option for the next game is the Packers game.

[HomerJSimpson]

Leftwich is a tough kid - he's coming back in: I thought he done most of his lower leg in that last hit... He is limping pretty heavily, but gotta admire his guts


Tell me when his lineman start carrying him to the line of scrimmage again.

[miami_fan]

Indianapolis Comp Att Yds Pct Y/A Sack YdsL TD Int
P. Manning 13 28 122 46.4 4.4 0 0 0 1

And the Colts are one stop away from winning the game. This just might be the year no matter how much I hate them. The defense looks awfully impressive

[AlexB]

Leftwich deserves a day or two off: just had his head nearly taken off by Freeney but still made the big play

[TroyF]

Down to 51 tics and the Jags have a 3rd and 18. Own 34 yard line. 0 timeouts. And he makes a miraculous pass as he's getting nailed. I can't believe the throw I jsut watched.

Simply amazing. Jags ball on the Colts 45, 25 tics left.

[Schmidty]

Somewhere in your past, a Wolverine alum stole the true love of your life, didn't he?

The thing is, I can't really explain my hatred for U-M, other than the smarminess of their fans. I remember when I was like 6 or 7, my mom took me to the store to get some clothes, and for some reason she got an MSU shirt and a U-M shirt for me (I don't think she knew any better). When we got home, I quickly put on the MSU shirt since green was my favorite color. When my dad got home from work, he went ballistic. He told me to take the ugly shirt off and told me how horrible MSU was. Being the stubborn kid that I was (and still am), I decided to keep it on. The rest is history. :)

[AlexB]

3rd 15 ont IND 47, 20 secs left

[HomerJSimpson]

It is so annoying that when a punt returner takes the time to get blocking for a good return, there is always going to be a holding/clipping.

[TroyF]

Wow, incredible throw and catch again. Last play of the game coming up. Three second left, ball at the twenty.

[AlexB]

spiked - 2nd & 10 on IND 23 with 3 seconds to go

[Easy Mac]

Brady whines to the ref... Seriously, people think Manning is the baby, its nice to see Brady lose his cool.

[WSUCougar]

The Bills rack up a potent 80 total yards in their loss to the Bucs.

[TroyF]

That was a clear PI call. I can't believe they didn't call that.

[AlexB]

Pass broken up, but should have been interference called. Tough break - Leftwich played tough, and nearly pulled it off...

[kcchief19]

Why is it that no kicker can fall over without hurting himself?

[Cringer]

Leftwich deserves a day or two off: just had his head nearly taken off by Freeney but still made the big play

My respect for Leftwich just shot up after that drive. It didn't get them a win, but damn did he keep it going as best as he could and made that great throw when he got nailed by Freeney.

[TroyF]

Harrison just speared Delhomme in the Pats/Panthers game, I can't believe that wasn't called either. He's playing incredibly cheap today, as has been mentioned earlier in this thread.

[AlexB]

Tell me when his lineman start carrying him to the line of scrimmage again.

They've just made reference to what you're talking about - I never heard this before. Thought you were dissing my play by play - I apologise for my verbals!

[Cringer]

Pass broken up, but should have been interference called. Tough break - Leftwich played tough, and nearly pulled it off...

PI? I suppose, i see the arguement for it. If it didn't happen he still had no chance because the defender was flying in front of the ball about 2 or 3 yards in front of him.

[Easy Mac]

Harrison just speared Delhomme in the Pats/Panthers game, I can't believe that wasn't called either. He's playing incredibly cheap today, as has been mentioned earlier in this thread.
He hit Smith on a third down earlier with his helmet and there was no call... The Patriots are God's team.

[cthomer5000]

Harrison just speared Delhomme in the Pats/Panthers game, I can't believe that wasn't called either. He's playing incredibly cheap today, as has been mentioned earlier in this thread.
Yeah, I'm most sick of watching his matcho staredowns after every tackle, and bumping into the guy 2-3 times while he tries to get up.

[HomerJSimpson]

They've just made reference to what you're talking about - I never heard this before. Thought you were dissing my play by play - I apologise for my verbals!


No, it is probably one of the best scenes of a guy who just would not give up.

[TroyF]

PI? I suppose, i see the arguement for it. If it didn't happen he still had no chance because the defender was flying in front of the ball about 2 or 3 yards in front of him.


I agree Cringer, the ball wouldn't have been completed anyway, but you can't allow the CB to just run over the WR while the ball is in the air. That should have been called.

[Solecismic]

The thing is, I can't really explain my hatred for U-M, other than the smarminess of their fans. I remember when I was like 6 or 7, my mom took me to the store to get some clothes, and for some reason she got an MSU shirt and a U-M shirt for me (I don't think she knew any better). When we got home, I quickly put on the MSU shirt since green was my favorite color. When my dad got home from work, he went ballistic. He told me to take the ugly shirt off and told me how horrible MSU was. Being the stubborn kid that I was (and still am), I decided to keep it on. The rest is history. :)

So, basically, you hate Michigan because your dad didn't like your tee-shirt.

There's a Lifetime Movie of the Week in here somewhere. Judith Light can play your mom and Gerald McRaney can play your dad.

[Tekneek]

He hit Smith on a third down earlier with his helmet and there was no call... The Patriots are God's team.

I used to wonder if I was the only person who saw this stuff happening.

[AlexB]

PI? I suppose, i see the arguement for it. If it didn't happen he still had no chance because the defender was flying in front of the ball about 2 or 3 yards in front of him.

I made the post before the replay - in retrospect it was accidental tangling of legs - no PI.

[Dutch]

PI? I suppose, i see the arguement for it. If it didn't happen he still had no chance because the defender was flying in front of the ball about 2 or 3 yards in front of him.

Tangling up a receiver and defenders legs has been called incidental contact for a couple years now. No Pass Interference. It has too be hands or intentional contact before the ball gets there for the ref to call it.

I thought Leftwich was done for the year when he bent back like that, amazing that he stayed upright. I thought they should have pulled him for Gerard, but he played well enough I suppose--even if it was against a prevent defense.

I'm just glad the guy is okay! I'm sure Jacksonville fans are just happy he survives to play another game.

[INDalltheway]

I agree Cringer, the ball wouldn't have been completed anyway, but you can't allow the CB to just run over the WR while the ball is in the air. That should have been called.
I'm a Colts fan, but the contact seemed incidental... Their feet got tangled and the corner ended up on top of the reciever making him look guilty.. (that may sound funny) :eek:

[Easy Mac]

where was that holding? that flag took 10 seconds

[TazFTW]

I love Ben Watson.

[TroyF]

Lets see if Harrison does something stupid here.

[kcchief19]

Not really about week 2 of the NFL, but am I the only one creeped out by the Burger King mascot in those silly commercials?

And it's Burger King. Not BK. Good grief.

<end rant>

[Cringer]

Packer time.

Today is the day Favre goes over 50,000 yards passing.

To bad Green fumbles on the first play from scrimmage. DOH!!

[TargetPractice6]

WHO DEY

[sabotai]

Pennington fumbles the snap (looks like he covered it though)....BAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Edit: Defensive offsides cancels it out.

[miami_fan]

Time for the late games!

[Tekneek]

Not really about week 2 of the NFL, but am I the only one creeped out by the Burger King mascot in those silly commercials?

He is not nearly as creepy in those as the ones where he shows up in the bed.

[Schmidty]

So, basically, you hate Michigan because your dad didn't like your tee-shirt.

There's a Lifetime Movie of the Week in here somewhere. Judith Light can play your mom and Gerald McRaney can play your dad.

Actually, it would be more like Sally Field and Colm Meany (less a few pounds).




I spent way too long trying to find an actor who looks like my dad.

[Bubba Wheels]

Nothing wrong with the Lions other than Offense, Defense and Special Teams. Should be an easy fix.

[TroyF]

Denver looking good on drive one. Picked up a big first down on a third and long. Going to be a about a 3rd and 3 from the Charger 47.

Rams off to a quick start, up 7 on the Cards.

[timmynausea]

Moral victory for the Lions: They did score more points than Harrington threw interceptions 6-5.

[Cringer]

Nice long run after the catch by Driver. TD Packers. Nice.

My wife said it for me, 'big year.' Meaning I said last week how I felt Driver is in for a big year. I felt he would do better then Walker, which I guess is easy now.... Anyways, I hope this is the start.

[Schmidty]

Nothing wrong with the Lions other than Offense, Defense and Special Teams. Should be an easy fix.

The problem is:

1. Joey Harrington's lack of ability

2. Steve Marriucci's lack of creativity or testicles


That is all.

[TroyF]

Denver with a 13 play drive that eats up almost 7 minutes off of the clock and Mike Anderson fumbles the ball on the one yard line. SD ball.

Anderson won the starting job in part because he doesn't fumble and they wanted a goal line back. That's a great way to lose the job for good there.

[TazFTW]

Not really about week 2 of the NFL, but am I the only one creeped out by the Burger King mascot in those silly commercials?

And it's Burger King. Not BK. Good grief.

<END rant>
No.

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[TazFTW]

Yay, Favre's back! Maybe my fantasy team can score some points now.

[Cringer]

Boldin has a great catch in AZ. Hope they beat the Rams. Rams up 7-0 already though,.

[TroyF]

Denver makes the stand and forces the punt. They get the ball back on their own 45.

6 minutes left in Q1, Denver has had the ball for 7 minutes, the Chargers for 1 minute. need another time consuming drive here, one that picks up points. This altitude is not a good place to leave your D on the field for a long time.

[TroyF]

Denver just spreading the Charger defense out. Lots of 3 and 4 WR sets, spreading the Chargers out. The O-Line looks strong. Plummer is sharp. Tis early, really early, but they look better than last week.

Ron Dayne gets his first carry as a Bronco, 1 yard. Giants fans remember a lot of that, huh?

[Cringer]

Lets see, the Lions really sucked today, and now the Browns are moving the ball on he Packers and may score here.

Ok, I guess I will believe the Packers defense blows. :(

[TroyF]

Chargers hold, field goal attempt coming up. 45 yarder. Got it. Denver 3, Chargers 0.

[CHEMICAL SOLDIER]

Who won The SF/Eagles match?

[Cringer]

Dilfer with the TD pass. No one covering some guy named Steve Heyden. Way to go defense.

[Cringer]

Who won The SF/Eagles match?

Koy Detmer

[TroyF]

Charles Lee drops a TD pass by Warner. Cards kick a FG to make it 7-3 Rams. Under three mintues left in the first of the Broncos/Chargers game. So far LT hasn't touched the ball once, Denver has had the ball for 11 minutes, the Chargers 1 minutes. And it's only 3-0 Denver.

Happy about the TOP, but this should be a 10-0 game right now, at least.

[cthomer5000]

The Jets offensive line seems to have reverted to 2003 form (cannot run block, can pass protect).

[Celeval]

Dilfer with the TD pass. No one covering some guy named Steve Heyden. Way to go defense.
Heiden had 28 receptions for 5 TDs last season. But keep not covering him in the red zone, we don't mind.

Hey Brett - thanks for the pick.

[cthomer5000]

They need to check Chad Pennington for a Futurama-style Brain Slug. He's just not the same QB.

[AlexB]

The Jets offensive line seems to have reverted to 2003 form (cannot run block, can pass protect).

Excellent news! From the numbers Frerotte looks to have started well again? And our stupidly overpaid kicker misses from 21 yards - I could make that with a fag in one hand and a beer in the other :mad:

[TroyF]

How fast are the Bronco LB's? Chargers just lined up in a 4 WR set (with Gates as the fourth wideout) and the Broncos stayed in a base defense. Gates with a 12 yard catch on thrid down, first down Chargers.

Another big third down catch by Gates to end the quarter. Chargers in Denver territory as Q1 ends.

[Cringer]

Hey Brett - thanks for the pick.

Not really Favre's fault in the way of a bad throw. It was a great defensive play.

[cthomer5000]

Excellent news! From the numbers Frerotte looks to have started well again? And our stupidly overpaid kicker misses from 21 yards - I could make that with a fag in one hand and a beer in the other :mad:
Frerotte looked alright until the red zone. The kick wasn't really Mare's fault. It was an awful hold, he had to kind of stutter-step and delay to get the kick off, then just didn't have enough leg into it because of his slowed-down approach.

[Fouts]

Nice pitch! SD 7, DEN 3.