MOST RECENT SOLECISMIC RELEASE UPDATE (12/16/05)

[RedKingGold]

Not sure if anyone noticed on the Solecismic Website but this was on the front page:

Just in time for the 2005 Holiday Season, we are offering our products at a reduced price. Front Office Football 2004 is now available for $24.95 and The College Years is now available for $19.95. If you haven't tried these games before, download the free demo copies now and give them a look. (http://www.solecismic.com/index.php)

Not to start the latest conspiracy theories, but it is rather convenient for a sale to be done around the holidays to get rid of "older" inventory.


But wait....theres more!

While the last two years have been more family-focused, with no new products seeing release, 2006 will mark several changes for the company. We will release a fully updated version of one of our football games this year, though it will be a few months before a final decision is made as to which one. We will also move our office (and home) to Michigan to be closer to family. That's become more important as our two-year-old son, Gregory, continues to develop in his own manner. We will break ground on our new home in January. (http://www.solecismic.com/sole/index.php)

[albionmoonlight]

Not sure if anyone noticed on the Solecismic Website but this was on the front page:

Just in time for the 2005 Holiday Season, we are offering our products at a reduced price. Front Office Football 2004 is now available for $24.95 and The College Years is now available for $19.95. If you haven't tried these games before, download the free demo copies now and give them a look. (http://www.solecismic.com/index.php)

Not to start the latest conspiracy theories, but it is rather convenient for a sale to be done around the holidays to get rid of "older" inventory.
I don't know if the "inventory" angle makes sense, since both of these products are download only.

[albionmoonlight]

Still--a good find.

[RedKingGold]

I don't know if the "inventory" angle makes sense, since both of these products are download only.

Well, not physical inventory,...but possibly trying to sell as many older products before newer become available....

If they ever become available.

[cthomer5000]

Both are super-great bargains. Anyone who hasn't purchased either of them should.

[DaddyTorgo]

aaaah. see now that there is finally a scoop!

[VPI97]

Front Office Fully Updated Version of One of Our Football Games


Yippee!

[Bonegavel]

With the release of BBCF, if Jim is on the verge of releasing TCY2 he is now going to have to pull back and maybe make some additions or tweaks.

[Warhammer]

I want to be in on the beta test! I've got my credentials now!

[Hurst2112]

But wait....theres more!

While the last two years have been more family-focused, with no new products seeing release, 2006 will mark several changes for the company. We will release a fully updated version of one of our football games this year, though it will be a few months before a final decision is made as to which one. We will also move our office (and home) to Michigan to be closer to family. That's become more important as our two-year-old son, Gregory, continues to develop in his own manner. We will break ground on our new home in January. (http://www.solecismic.com/sole/index.php)

Compan information portion of website

I was just gonna post this!!!!

damn. Quite exciting news

[Hurst2112]

I hope it's not FOF4. That would suck. ;)

[KWhit]

How strange that he announces that there will be an update, but that he hasn't decided which one he'll release yet. I assume this means that he has been/is working on both of them?

[DaddyTorgo]

over/under on how long until we get a poll thread/two competing threads arguing for TCY2 over FOF2006??

and for how long until someone brings down the wrath of The SkyDog

[RedKingGold]

I'VE JUST BEEN STICKIED!!!!!

Thanks for the help Skydog

[albionmoonlight]

I'VE JUST BEEN STICKIED!!!!!
Good job! Your tag may say neophyte, but you will always be an effin' elitist to me.

[Hurst2112]

I'VE JUST BEEN STICKIED!!!!!
no pix plz, thnx.

[Bonegavel]

Isn't that copyright infringement to post his web site info here? :D

[rkmsuf]

How strange that he announces that there will be an update, but that he hasn't decided which one he'll release yet. I assume this means that he has been/is working on both of them?

How about one game encompassing both?

[Ben E Lou]

I'VE JUST BEEN STICKIED!!!!!Yup, and made some changes to your posts and the title.

[Antmeister]

How about one game encompassing both?

That is what I am hoping for.

[sovereignstar]

That is what I am hoping for.

pipe dream

[Hurst2112]

With the release of BBCF, if Jim is on the verge of releasing TCY2 he is now going to have to pull back and maybe make some additions or tweaks.

hmmm.

I can think that he is working on both, and will release FOF Updated. His TCY project (because of the amount of work) will be released later.

Although, he did mention that he was wanting to update TCY to fix things like conferences and the like. Perhaps this is what it's going to be.

Who knows. Good news either way I guess.

[st.cronin]

I don't know how I would feel about being 'stickied' by SkyDog.

[Solecismic]

Not bad. Twelve minutes from updating the web site to a new item here, and another ten for a sticky.

I see this as a compromise solution. The "no news whatsoever" tact worked fine as long as I was releasing games fairly frequently. However, it has become too much of a distraction in and of itself.

I have been working on updates to both games. I have not fully focused on either and don't have anything close to release. I have also taken a lot of time off in the last couple of years, I've been helping design our new home as completely as possible. And before that, I just needed some time off, so I only worked on patches and tried a couple of new things (one of which is the free ftp program on my site).

For the next couple of months, I'm going to work on interface stuff. I just received my copy of Visual Studio 2005, and that will open up a few new things for me. Hopefully, by the end of February, I will make my choice, contract necessary artwork, and continue with the intensive programming. I do not have a perspective release date, though I do know that we intend to move sometime around October 1, so I will try and avoid that time period for the heavy work (or Angela will kill me).

[DaddyTorgo]

Not bad. Twelve minutes from updating the web site to a new item here, and another ten for a sticky.
you tease. so you did that deliberately to try to see how often someone was checking the website eh?

[Ben E Lou]

Not bad. Twelve minutes from updating the web site to a new item here, and another ten for a sticky.Yeah, the sticky took a while, due to un-stickying other stuff and reading your site for myself. :p

[jbmagic]

great news

FOF have been my favorite sport sim game.

[RedKingGold]

Not to kill my sleuthing skills, but coming across that was blind luck.

For some reason, I couldn't get access to the forums temporarily. So, I decided to use the "reacharound" and get in through Jim's site.

Low and behold, I came across the holiday sale. That made me do a little bit more searching.

So, not to break the hearts of all you people, but I was not one of the people to hit refresh on the Solecismic website every 10 seconds to get news.

[cthomer5000]

Front Office Fully Updated Version of One of Our Football Games


Yippee!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTT!1111111!!!!!

[CraigSca]

Cool, Jim - I look forward to the update, whatever it may be (crossing my fingers for TCY 2, however).

[the_meanstrosity]

Great to hear you're getting back to the coding, Jim. What language (or languages) will you be using and any chance of getting some xml outputs for 3rd party utilities?

[FBPro]

Sweet, very good news and works for me.

[SegRat]

Give me a new version of Front Office Football.

[Gallifrey]

Wow, this is interesting. TCY2? Could it be?

Really doesn't matter to me...Jim has the best sim engine second to none.

I challenge you Jim to bring on TCY2 so I can crush Michigan with Duke!

[Antmeister]

pipe dream

Just let this man-child dream, damn it. :mad: Grrrrrr...I'm mad!

[sachmo71]

we get to sit and wait for months to find out which one. whoot.

[Crapshoot]

Pro man - pro. The college game is simply not as interesting (IMO) from a simulation perspective.

That being said, its going to be 10 months or so until either one - so we'll see.

[Darkiller]

Great news !
Glad it's a Football game update (I would guess TCY 2 since FOF2004 is rock n rolling and doing real well in multiplayer leagues ?).

On the Solecismic website frontpage, remember it still says "Solecismic Software is an entertainment software company dedicated to producing cutting-edge career football simulations"

That's a really good thing that Jim continues on the Football side of text-based sims.

[Gallifrey]

Yes, good that it is football. Otherwise I wouldn't care.

[Raiders Army]

Yes, good that it is football. Otherwise I wouldn't care.
I'd probably buy a nerd-sim from him...wait, isn't that what FOFC is?

[Airhog]

I am tempted to buy the game for 20 bucks. Even though I don't think I would like it all that much. :D

[Dutch]

I just received my copy of Visual Studio 2005

Higher Resolutions. Larger screens for more data, ability to expand size of all windows in game. Moddable backgrounds and images. Player images. Team Logos.

And all without having to sacrifice the sim engine we know and trust.

This is gonna be good.

[Eaglesfan27]

Great news. Ditto what Dutch said. I can't wait to buy it whichever game it ends up being.

[Buccaneer]

Hmmmpppf, I can't get VS2005 installed until the pointy-haired geeks in IT Support approve the corporate migration to XP SP2.

[Emiliano]

Great news!!! Can't wait for the next game from Jim.

[Anthony]

'bout time Jim. now i got no complaints.

was that so hard?

[vex]

TCY2...please,please,please.

[Dutch]

'bout time Jim. now i got no complaints at this very moment in time.

was that so hard?

Well....that moment in time is over. I now wish to piss on your carpet.

Fixed it for you. :)

[govols]

Does the Photo with the word VOTE mean anything? If for some strange reason it does..... TCY2 is my VOTE!!!

[Airhog]

where do we signup to beta test? :D

[WrongWay]

I thought for sure Solecismic would of released a "Gold" edition of their games by now. The Gold edition would contain both TCY and FOF2004 for one low price. But, maybe you can't do that with e-license games?

[korme]

fof 2006/07 please.

[Tekneek]

TCY, IMO, would seem the ideal candidate for a new release.

At any rate, it would seem we are probably 6 to 7 months away from learning anything substantive about this anyway, right?

[stevew]

Fixed it for you. :)

HA is a chinaman?

[Kodos]

:)

[Cringer]

Glad to hear some news on this. A nice welcome home from the work week for me. Now I can go ahead with what I have TCY wise for the Imperial League and not have to worry about cutting it short anytime real soon since it will be 6 months to a year it sounds like.

And I am surprised Jim isn't moving until October, I don't get to read everything so maybe that is wht I thought it was happening fairly soon.

[Raiders Army]

Doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but I vote for FOF as well.

[Coltfan Chris]

Just to chime in- I vote for FOF2006!! I just don't find college football that enjoyable, and I work at a University. Granted, we have a crappy team, but it's more than that. With the college game, players turn over every 3-4 years. You just settle on a starter and . . . he graduates or goes pro. Bummer. With the pro game, you get to take some chances on young, but promising talent and work on developing them for 5-6 years. That whole volatility thing is wonderful!! So, please Jim, FOF 2006. Please?

Cheers,
Coltfan Chris

[DaddyTorgo]

Just to chime in- I vote for FOF2006!! I just don't find college football that enjoyable, and I work at a University. Granted, we have a crappy team, but it's more than that. With the college game, players turn over every 3-4 years. You just settle on a starter and . . . he graduates or goes pro. Bummer. With the pro game, you get to take some chances on young, but promising talent and work on developing them for 5-6 years. That whole volatility thing is wonderful!! So, please Jim, FOF 2006. Please?

Cheers,
Coltfan Chris
i agree with this wholeheartedly. although i do find bbcf enjoyable. but there's no way i'd buy 2 college games (i say that now although i probably would). but i'd rather have a pro one

[ZXTT]

FOF - I just find pro football much more interesting.

[falios]

Shameless little plug, but I know a little town about 45 minutes west of Ann Arbor that is looking to grow and would be a great spot to raise your new son Jim. The town has been in the media a lot lately and would no doubt be a fine fit with plenty of land to develop. Anyways, just a shameless little plug.

[Mo.Raider]

I would vote for a pro version also. I tried the demo of TCY and Bowl Bound, and just can't get into them like the pros. Of course I have been stuck on FOF 2001 and haven't upgraded to FOF 2004. I downloaded the demo and think I will make the jump soon. I like the interface better in FOF 2001 plus expansion, but after playing the demo of FOF2004 I think enough changes have been to justify an upgrade at $24.95 (which is more of an attractive pricepoint for a downloadable text sim).

[bselig]

Was hoping for a new product, but probably makes too much sense for an independent studio to work on an existing code base. My vote is for the pros.

[Chubby]

TCY MP, k thx :D

[Cringer]

Was hoping for a new product, but probably makes too much sense for an independent studio to work on an existing code base. My vote is for the pros.

FOF and TCY have so much room to grow that I see no reason for Solecismic to depart from them.

[vex]

TCY MP, k thx :D
Word.

[Toddzilla]

It's gotta be TCY. Pro Football, for the most part, hasn't changed all that much since the last release. College Football, however, has had a major shift in the conference landscape which makes TCY way out of date and in most need of an update.

[Klinglerware]

It's gotta be TCY. Pro Football, for the most part, hasn't changed all that much since the last release. College Football, however, has had a major shift in the conference landscape which makes TCY way out of date and in most need of an update.

tru dat

[Dutch]

My guess is that FOF2k5 would be a less "painful" update than TCY2.

[TazFTW]

TCY NEEDS multiplayer.

[Qwikshot]

TCY NEEDS multiplayer.

MARS...NEEDS...WOMEN!!!!

[Toddzilla]

MARS...NEEDS...WOMEN!!!!

Mars Needs Guitars (http://guruvosity.tripod.com/mars.htm)

[Ben E Lou]

Bump. Un-stick. Linked in reference thread (post 12 for now...first post in thread will be updated at some point in the relatively near future)

[Chubby]

if it turns out to be FOF, there needs to be a MP league import function no matter how long it takes :)

[Northwood_DK]

Just saw this in the Bowl Bound Developer Chat.

Q: So whats the status of the pro football sim?
Arlie Rahn- Once I get through these update with BBCF, I will start looking at a pro football sim.

[EagleFan]

Wow, wopuld love to see a TCY update with MP. That would get me back in the sim league mode. Just think about having a fully functional pro and college sim league running simultaneously with players progressing from college into the pros. That makes me need a kleenex.

[sooner333]

pretty amazing i missed this the first time around...good stuff.

[JeeberD]

Whoa, an EagleFan sighting!

[Dutch]

My favorite part of the news.

As we enter 2006, Solecismic Software remains strong. Our goal is to provide cutting-edge sports simulations with clean, simple interfaces. We're not going to waste valuable development time with expensive graphics. We will continue to work on presenting as much information as humanly possible on each game screen, in ways that are clear and easy to understand.

[Ben E Lou]

My favorite part of the news.Word.

[Buccaneer]

One of the industry standard rule of designing user interfaces that are clear and easy to understand is to not to present as much information as humanly possible. :)

[Dutch]

One of the industry standard rule of designing user interfaces that are clear and easy to understand is to not to present as much information as humanly possible. :)

It all depends on how organized the information is. If it's cluttered, yeah, too much info is bad. But if it's a spreadsheet, there is definately room for improvement over FOF2k4.

[CraigSca]

My favorite part of the news.
Agree wholeheartedly. Keep the game engine as incredible as it is without kludging it up by having 3-D buttons and animations that are merely a distraction.

And don't make it take 25 years to sim a day.

[Schmidty]

Yay. Another spreadsheet game. Woohoo.

FOF2006: Brought to you by Microsoft Excel. :(

[Poli]

Shameless little plug, but I know a little town about 45 minutes west of Ann Arbor that is looking to grow and would be a great spot to raise your new son Jim. The town has been in the media a lot lately and would no doubt be a fine fit with plenty of land to develop. Anyways, just a shameless little plug.
I remember reading this post and wondering what the story was of the little town. I got the rest of the story yesterday. :)

[Shkspr]

Yay. Another spreadsheet game. Woohoo.

FOF2006: Brought to you by Microsoft Excel. :(

Don't worry, Schmidty. There's bound to be some other football simulation produced someday with 3D graphics and customizability and stuff.

[Schmidty]

Don't worry, Schmidty. There's bound to be some other football simulation produced someday with 3D graphics and customizability and stuff.

Heh. Maximum sarcasm.

I don't want all that crap though. I just want a game that doesn't make it feel like working. I see enough spreadsheets at work, that by the time I get home, I have no desire to fire up a game that feels more like a inventory list than an inventory list does.

I know that the guts of FOF are awesome and I still love it and will always support it, but I don't think it has to be so spartan. Heck, I'm not even asking for interfaces like GD puts out (although I like them), I just want something half-way pleasant.

[Shkspr]

I'd kill for a little XOR-style action in my FOF too, I have to admit.

[Poli]

I'd kill for a little XOR-style action in my FOF too, I have to admit.
No doubt. I've been waiting all my life for one of these.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electronic/ietron/xor.gif

[Shkspr]

No doubt. I've been waiting all my life for one of these.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electronic/ietron/xor.gif

:p :p :p

http://pcfootball.net/images/Games/NFL%20Challenge.bmp

[Poli]

You would have to get specific, wouldn't you? :)

[Passacaglia]

I remember reading this post and wondering what the story was of the little town. I got the rest of the story yesterday. :)

What was the story?

[Poli]

What was the story?
I'm afraid I can't share that, though it is impressive and interesting.

[Passacaglia]

I'm afraid I can't share that, though it is impressive and interesting.

Well at least tell me the name of the city!! Don't let a Michigan guy down only a few days after his birthday!!

[JeeberD]

but I don't think it has to be so spartan.

I'm amazed that the UM guys haven't jumped all over this...

[Poli]

No doubt. I've been waiting all my life for one of these.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electronic/ietron/xor.gif
This was on my advancement test. Good thing I posted it. :)

[RedKingGold]

Not bad. Twelve minutes from updating the web site to a new item here, and another ten for a sticky.

I see this as a compromise solution. The "no news whatsoever" tact worked fine as long as I was releasing games fairly frequently. However, it has become too much of a distraction in and of itself.

I have been working on updates to both games. I have not fully focused on either and don't have anything close to release. I have also taken a lot of time off in the last couple of years, I've been helping design our new home as completely as possible. And before that, I just needed some time off, so I only worked on patches and tried a couple of new things (one of which is the free ftp program on my site).

For the next couple of months, I'm going to work on interface stuff. I just received my copy of Visual Studio 2005, and that will open up a few new things for me. Hopefully, by the end of February, I will make my choice, contract necessary artwork, and continue with the intensive programming. I do not have a perspective release date, though I do know that we intend to move sometime around October 1, so I will try and avoid that time period for the heavy work (or Angela will kill me).

And it is now April...............................................

[Celeval]

And it is now April...............................................

Which likely means Jim has made his choice.

He doesn't typically announce these things. ;)

[RedKingGold]

Which likely means Jim has made his choice.

He doesn't typically announce these things. ;)

I know...but its fun to stir up the crazies every once in a while....the jbmagic's of the world (pre-Quiksand-tutoring)

And I can't forget about the clowns and those who go the wrong way in life on this forum.

Michelle Wie Haters Unite!

[Solecismic]

I thought I'd fire up the old TRS-80 and work on my graphics tonight. Nice to know people still care.

[Ben E Lou]

the old TRS-80Dang. JG just took a brutha back to 7th grade!

[cartman]

I thought I'd fire up the old TRS-80 and work on my graphics tonight. Nice to know people still care.

If you can replicate the cool 3-D effects of a monochrome Zaxxon, I'm all for it!

:D

[Franklinnoble]

Thanks for stickying the thread and getting us all excited that there was some actual news.

[Joe]

Thanks for stickying the thread and getting us all excited that there was some actual news.

there is news. you just have to read between the lines.

[JeeberD]

I thought I'd fire up the old TRS-80 and work on my graphics tonight. Nice to know people still care.

Oh my god, GWB is right! FOF it is!!1!

[Celeval]

I thought I'd fire up the old TRS-80 and work on my graphics tonight. Nice to know people still care.

http://nitros9.lcurtisboyle.com/football.gif
http://nitros9.lcurtisboyle.com/football.html

:eek:

[Raiders Army]

Dang. JG just took a brutha back to 7th grade!
Ummm...that was 2nd grade for me. :)

[Comey]

http://nitros9.lcurtisboyle.com/football.gif
http://nitros9.lcurtisboyle.com/football.html

:eek:

That's a sweet Civil War sim right there.

[Antmeister]

Can someone explain to me why this is stickied again. I think I must have missed something.

[Ben E Lou]

Can someone explain to me why this is stickied again. I think I must have missed something.It seems like every couple of weeks or so, someone comes on the board and asks if FOF2006 and/or TCY2 are coming out this year. I thought I'd just sticky this sucker, and the next time there's new info, just update the first post.

[Antmeister]

It seems like every couple of weeks or so, someone comes on the board and asks if FOF2006 and/or TCY2 are coming out this year. I thought I'd just sticky this sucker, and the next time there's new info, just update the first post.

Okay.....well I am going to go with the conspiracy theory that you have some inside information that will soon be revealed to us and that is why you stickied this sucker. If you are beta testing the game, you better give us some hints in a way that is not breaking any NDA. I hope this comment is in the spirit of this thread.

And why do I feel like I am trying to crack the Da Vinci Code everytime I read a post from Solecismic?

[Deattribution]

The real truth is its to apply the strong-arm to Jim, so that everytime he visits the forum he too gets excited that there is a new announcement only to be disappointed, ultimately deciding that it is time for an announcement.

[WSUCougar]

That's a sweet Civil War sim right there.
*snicker*

[MizzouRah]

It's kind of sad how starved we are for a "Gindin" sim. :(

[Vinatieri for Prez]

Alright conspiracy theorists. I posted in this thread yesterday stating that TCY2 and FOF2006 were in production and scheduled for release in September 2006. I also stated that Jim would not deny this so it must be true.

Interestingly, that post was mysteriously deleted. Hmmm . . . .

[Deattribution]

Alright conspiracy theorists. I posted in this thread yesterday stating that TCY2 and FOF2006 were in production and scheduled for release in September 2006. I also stated that Jim would not deny this so it must be true.

Interestingly, that post was mysteriously deleted. Hmmm . . . .


Do ya still have your edit button? ;)

[Franklinnoble]

Dang. JG just took a brutha back to 7th grade!

Lostsa "bruthas" gettin' down on the T-to-the-R-to-the-S-to the-Eight-O back in the day?

[Vinatieri for Prez]

Alright conspiracy theorists. I posted in this thread yesterday stating that TCY2 and FOF2006 were in production and scheduled for release in September 2006. I also stated that Jim would not deny this so it must be true.

Interestingly, that post was mysteriously deleted. Hmmm . . . .

Damn, I now realize I posted that in a different thread, and it's still there. There goes my conspiracy theory.

[Dutch]

Everytime you styicky a thread, God kills one of Hell Atlantic's brain cells...

[RunnerJD]

I'd be interested in learning more about this game and maybe buying it, but I can't find any contact info on their website. There's no phone number, address or even email. That's rather odd and makes me suspicious. Can someone help me out here? I did download the demo, which I'm about to install.

[JeeberD]

Why would you need the company's phone number and/or address?

[Franklinnoble]

I'd be interested in learning more about this game and maybe buying it, but I can't find any contact info on their website. There's no phone number, address or even email. That's rather odd and makes me suspicious. Can someone help me out here? I did download the demo, which I'm about to install.

The company is located in Nigeria... it'd be a long distance phone call. You're better off just making the purchase online, and not worrying about it.

















(kidding)

[AlexB]

I'd be interested in learning more about this game and maybe buying it, but I can't find any contact info on their website. There's no phone number, address or even email. That's rather odd and makes me suspicious. Can someone help me out here? I did download the demo, which I'm about to install.

Dam, your cleverererer than us iddiyots. Wee only joyned this bord becoz wee payed are munny, and hav been trying too get are munny bak eva sinz

[RunnerJD]

Why would you need the company's phone number and/or address?

maybe because I don't trust buying something over the internet from a company with no phone number or address listed. you might, but I sort of like to know it's a real business with real people. you buy something on Amazon or yahoo or a million other places, you've got an address and phone number.

[AlexB]

For Jim's sake I apologise for the previous post: don't want to scare off a potential purchase.

There is nothing to worry about: the very fact that this board has so many members, so many posts about the game should be reassurance enough for you?

[duckman]

For Jim's sake I apologise for the previous post: don't want to scare off a potential purchase.

There is nothing to worry about: the very fact that this board has so many members, so many posts about the game should be reassurance enough for you?

Don't forget longevity as well. I've been a customer of Jim's games since early 2000.

[Deattribution]

maybe because I don't trust buying something over the internet from a company with no phone number or address listed. you might, but I sort of like to know it's a real business with real people. you buy something on Amazon or yahoo or a million other places, you've got an address and phone number.

Umm it's sold through e-license (viatech), if you really wanted to contact them look through elicense.com


Kind of stupid to come to a community with almost 5000 (and easily 1500 purchases minimum of said game) members and hint that the game the forum is based on might be a fraudalant company though.

[cuervo72]

Why would you need the company's phone number and/or address?

To relay it to their van driver.

[RunnerJD]

Umm it's sold through e-license (viatech), if you really wanted to contact them look through elicense.com


Kind of stupid to come to a community with almost 5000 (and easily 1500 purchases minimum of said game) members and hint that the game the forum is based on might be a fraudalant company though.

I don't know how many people are here. All I wondered is how to contact them. It's odd that they have no contact info on their website. I have heard good things about the game. But when I found its website, it didn't look like something that inspired me to purchase. I came here looking for info and reasons to buy from experienced users, not to be insulted for asking. I think it's reasonable to wonder. The internet is full of scams, and how would I know how many are here?

[Joe]

aren't you afraid that the demo might have a virus in it? why are you installing it?

[Franklinnoble]

Yeah... I'm thinking that the special brand of customer service that FOFC dishes out isn't gonna help Solecismic too much.

Anyhow... contact the programmer, Jim Gindin, here via PM (his ID is Solecismic). Or read the FAQ page at solecismic.com: http://www.solecismic.com/faq/index.php


Can I ask additional questions about the games?
Absolutely. But please read this F.A.Q. completely and check the game's help file (press F1 from any screen) before sending your questions. If you are reporting a bug, please make sure you have the latest patch installed before writing, and please include details about your computer, your operating system and the version of the game you are running.
Our email address is support AT solecismic.com. Please do not send file attachments, as email with attachments will automatically be deleted before we read it. If your question is about the installation of the game or about the electronic licensing, you'll probably get a much faster and more accurate answer from ViaTech (support AT elicense.com).

[RunnerJD]

aren't you afraid that the demo might have a virus in it? why are you installing it?

Good point. In fact, that's probably the first good point from anyone named George W Bush.

Thanks for the welcome. Wow, what a great community. I come here looking for assurance that my purchase is a wise one from those who've bought, hoping to learn the pros and cons, and I get abused. Thanks a bunch. see ya!

[DaddyTorgo]

hey Runner does have a legit point though. I love Jim and his games are top-notch, but when I first visited the website it scared me off buying the game for a good period of time (couple months at least).

[Deattribution]

I don't know how many people are here. All I wondered is how to contact them. It's odd that they have no contact info on their website. I have heard good things about the game. But when I found its website, it didn't look like something that inspired me to purchase. I came here looking for info and reasons to buy from experienced users, not to be insulted for asking. I think it's reasonable to wonder. The internet is full of scams, and how would I know how many are here?

You might've wanted to read the FAQ while you were trying to be inspired by the site, but as stated the email to contact is there - and also as I said , the only way to contact the 'sales' area by phone would be through Elicense, as Solecismic doesn't get any of your personal informations (credit cards ect) through the purchase.. It's all ran through Elicense.

If all you wanted was assurance, that's what you should have asked - instead of 'maybe you buy someone without knowing, but I don't , I'm very suspicious'.

People have bought 5 different versions of the game spanning several years, including two versions published through Electronic Arts, which FOF use to be affiliated with. Eventually Jim (the games only developer) decided to go back to releasing the game independently through his site, and now through elicense which also deals with dozens of other reputatable companies selling their products via electronic distribution. I've never once heard of anyone being ripped off of their money by purchasing any product from them.

[stevew]

This dude is probably a troll. If he's not, then I apologize. But people have acted similarly in the past and then tried to say the community was bogus, and it was just cause they had an issue or something.

[Joe]

too bad it wasnt this easy to get rid of jbmagic

[RunnerJD]

You might've wanted to read the FAQ while you were trying to be inspired by the site, but as stated the email to contact is there - and also as I said , the only way to contact the 'sales' area by phone would be through Elicense, as Solecismic doesn't get any of your personal informations (credit cards ect) through the purchase.. It's all ran through Elicense.

If all you wanted was assurance, that's what you should have asked - instead of 'maybe you buy someone without knowing, but I don't , I'm very suspicious'.

People have bought 5 different versions of the game spanning several years, including two versions published through Electronic Arts, which FOF use to be affiliated with. Eventually Jim (the games only developer) decided to go back to releasing the game independently through his site, and now through elicense which also deals with dozens of other reputatable companies selling their products via electronic distribution. I've never once heard of anyone being ripped off of their money by purchasing any product from them.

Thanks. That's all I wanted to know.

[Franklinnoble]

This dude is probably a troll. If he's not, then I apologize. But people have acted similarly in the past and then tried to say the community was bogus, and it was just cause they had an issue or something.

Yep. He needs a good 500+ posts before he's allowed to criticize anyone or anything around here.

[Dutch]

Oh, I almost forgot....lamest.sticky.ever. :)

[JeeberD]

The thing that confuses me is that a simple Google search could have proven that Solecismic is a legit company. What good is the company address going to do?

[Vinatieri for Prez]

The funny part is any company that was bogus would make sure to have an address and phone number, even if phony, so as to appear legit. Basing a decision on this is not too bright. That said, the reaction to his question seemed harsh.

[MizzouRah]

I've been in such a sports sim lull lately.

I want the good 'ol days when Jim would announce his next sim and we'd have a Q & A about the game.

I would sit at work thinking about how I plan to take the Rams back to the Super Bowl, wondering how hard it would be, and dreaming about the new features.

Lets go Jim! :)

This sounds good: Front Office Football 2006

[Dutch]

I'm guessing we are still a ways away from a release. September/October. (5-6 months)

[MizzouRah]

I'm guessing we are still a ways away from a release. September/October. (5-6 months)

Nooooooooooo!!!! Think positive!!

[sachmo71]

Can we get this thread unstickied? I recognize the attempt, but I think it sows more confusion than it helps.

[Raiders Army]

This sounds good: Front Office Football 2006
Wouldn't that be FOF 2007?

[MizzouRah]

Wouldn't that be FOF 2007?

He could call it 'Booger Eating 3000' and I wouldn't care.

[Blade6119]

He could call it 'Booger Eating 3000' and I wouldn't care.
Thats becuase you would surely stop your dynasty about it right when its getting good ;)

[SFL Cat]

Everytime you styicky a thread, God kills one of Hell Atlantic's brain cells...

Obligatory "you mean there are brain cells left to kill?"

[Anthony]

Everytime you styicky a thread, God kills one of Hell Atlantic's brain cells...

hey, i have gatrillions of brain cells.

[Dutch]

hey, i have Brazillians of brain cells.

Fixed it. :)

[DaddyTorgo]

DAMMIT PEOPLE STOP POSTING IN THIS THREAD AND GETTING MY HEART-RATE UP!

[AlexB]

Ok

[Dutch]

Did you hear the latest? Wow. Stunning development if I say so myself.

[Dutch]

:)

[Izulde]

You're all a bunch of bastards.

[WSUCougar]

I'd just like to point out that Michigan lost their opener at Oklahoma in the BBCF/FOFC multiplayer league.

If that doesn't motivate Jim to polish TCY2 up quicker, nothin' will. :D

[Cuckoo]

I'd just like to point out that Michigan lost their opener at Oklahoma in the BBCF/FOFC multiplayer league.

http://www.united-baseball.org/forums/html/emoticons/dancefool.gif

[Solecismic]

So, maybe an unsticky and a new title is in order here?

Though, knowing that I'm not a fan of custom graphics and that people are still viewing this item is encouraging to me. At some point, if reviewers continue to insist that you guys can't play a game that uses the same basic interface design as the world's most useful programs - Word and Excel - I am going to have to make an honest living for a change.

[Passacaglia]

http://www.united-baseball.org/forums/html/emoticons/dancefool.gif

Tune-up game. We'll see you in the playoffs, boyee!

[NYURDRMS]

So, maybe an unsticky and a new title is in order here?

Though, knowing that I'm not a fan of custom graphics and that people are still viewing this item is encouraging to me. At some point, if reviewers continue to insist that you guys can't play a game that uses the same basic interface design as the world's most useful programs - Word and Excel - I am going to have to make an honest living for a change.


Graphics are overrated. Game Engine that is realistic is what I am looking for.

My vote, FOF, please, I would think there is a a bigger market for FOF.

Any chance we can hear your decision?

[Schmidty]

So, maybe an unsticky and a new title is in order here?

Though, knowing that I'm not a fan of custom graphics and that people are still viewing this item is encouraging to me. At some point, if reviewers continue to insist that you guys can't play a game that uses the same basic interface design as the world's most useful programs - Word and Excel - I am going to have to make an honest living for a change.

I just don't understand why you can't have a useful interface that has elements of Excel, yet has a more appealing look to it. Is that such a horrible thing? I'm not asking for a Porsche, or even BMW. I'd be happy with a Saturn, because right now the interface is like Pinto with a V10 500hp Viper engine inside. It's runs unbelievably well, but it's so freaking ugly, it's a huge distraction.

[gstelmack]

I just don't understand why you can't have a useful interface that has elements of Excel, yet has a more appealing look to it. Is that such a horrible thing? I'm not asking for a Porsche, or even BMW. I'd be happy with a Saturn, because right now the interface is like Pinto with a V10 500hp Viper engine inside. It's runs unbelievably well, but it's so freaking ugly, it's a huge distraction.

What's wrong with the look? There are *features* I'd like to see tweaked in the UI (more modeless dialogs so I can keep my roster window up while setting my depth chart, a useful initial layout for all the windows so I don't have to open them all and reposition them every time I start playing a game, etc), I'm VERY happy with the current look and feel. It's functional without adding a bunch of graphical glitz that gets in the way of what I'm trying to do.

[Franklinnoble]

Yeah... pretty graphics = harder to play at work and get away with it.

If FOF looks like Excel, I'm cool with that.

[Schmidty]

I'm VERY happy with the current look and feel. It's functional without adding a bunch of graphical glitz that gets in the way of what I'm trying to do.

I'm not saying that the functionality should be changed, I'm just saying make it look less.....ugly. Or at least make the font larger.

I look at Excel all day, so why in the world would I want to come home and play a game that looks the same way? I just don't understand why everyone acts as if the world would end if the game was less spartan. I don't think you have to sacrifice functionality for a more appealing UI.

Having said all that, I will always buy games that Jim makes (if he ever will again).

[MizzouRah]

What's wrong with the look? There are *features* I'd like to see tweaked in the UI (more modeless dialogs so I can keep my roster window up while setting my depth chart, a useful initial layout for all the windows so I don't have to open them all and reposition them every time I start playing a game, etc), I'm VERY happy with the current look and feel. It's functional without adding a bunch of graphical glitz that gets in the way of what I'm trying to do.

There is a thread that has a way to make it so you DON'T have to re-size the windows everytime. It used to be in the reference thread at the top.

[yabanci]

...I'm VERY happy with the current look and feel. It's functional without adding a bunch of graphical glitz that gets in the way of what I'm trying to do.

This is my view as well.

So, maybe an unsticky and a new title is in order here?

This is my view as well.

[flere-imsaho]

There are *features* I'd like to see tweaked in the UI (more modeless dialogs so I can keep my roster window up while setting my depth chart,

Yes. MODELESS DIALOGS PLZKTHXBYE!!!!!1111oneoneone

Yes, I'm serious.

[Sully]

Has anyone been working on new NFL rosters for 2006 Draft

[Emiliano]

Has anyone been working on new NFL rosters for 2006 Draft
If you mean the draft file, go here (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=48733).