Maximum Football???

[cartman]

Does anyone know if this will be available on 5-1/4" or will I need to upgrade?

I was also wondering if it was going to be EGA compatible, or just Tandy 16 color compatible.

[Antmeister]

How could you not preorder it back then? When all we heard about growing up was this great game of the future, Maximum Football. Why I remember when I was a kid and my Dad said, "One day son, not too far off now we will get Maximum Football for our new Intelivision system. I think you will like it more then Pitfall."

Nice!

[Butter]

I just got mine!

It's a cartridge though?!?!!??!?!

Mine too. It's bundled with River Raid.

[Antmeister]

I was also wondering if it was going to be EGA compatible, or just Tandy 16 color compatible.

C'mon now. You can hook it up with your television, but you have to load it off a cassette tape.

[A-Husker-4-Life]

C'mon now. You can hook it up with your television, but you have to load it off a cassette tape.

Ohh man, I remember that crap... It was speedtastic...

[Antmeister]

Ohh man, I remember that crap... It was speedtastic...

Yep it was such a joy when the tape would wear out and you spent the last 20 minutes loading a game only to discover there was an error at the very end of the whole process.

[Toddzilla]

10 PRINT "WELCOME TO MAXIMUM FOOTBALL"
20 GOTO 10

[cartman]

LOAD "MAXFB",8,1

[miked]

Maybe we should start a Maximum Football FOFC league. Seemed to work well for the progress of BBCF...

[Toddzilla]

100 PRINT "PLEASE ENTER THE CUSTOMIZATIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO USE"
110 PRINT "(1) AMERICAN FOOTBALL"
120 PRINT "(2) CANADIAN FOOTBALL"
130 PRINT "(3) CHINESE FOOTBALL"
140 PRINT "(4) TELEPORTATION"
150 PRINT "(5) BEER TENT EXTRAVAGANZA"
160 PRINT "(6) 60-ON-1 MAXIMUM BLITZ"
170 PRINT "(7) MARCUS VICK ARMED-AND-READY"
180 GET I$

[cartman]

Todd, you've gotta get a GOSUB in there somewhere. GOSUBs rock!

[KWhit]

Ummm....

Did this thread jump the shark?

[KWhit]

Dola -

And yes, I know that the phrase "Jump the Shark" jumped the shark, so you don't need to point it out to me.

[Antmeister]

100 PRINT "PLEASE ENTER THE CUSTOMIZATIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO USE"
110 PRINT "(1) AMERICAN FOOTBALL"
120 PRINT "(2) CANADIAN FOOTBALL"
130 PRINT "(3) CHINESE FOOTBALL"
140 PRINT "(4) TELEPORTATION"
150 PRINT "(5) BEER TENT EXTRAVAGANZA"
160 PRINT "(6) 60-ON-1 MAXIMUM BLITZ"
170 PRINT "(7) MARCUS VICK ARMED-AND-READY"
180 GET I$

We need QOTM for reasons like this. Nice job!

[CraigSca]

Yeah, I put it on my Diner's Club card. Hope that's still good.
I can't seem to remember if I used my MasterCharge or BankAmericard to pre-order. I'll have to look at my thermal transfer printout of the order.

[QuikSand]

Maybe we should start a Maximum Football FOFC league. Seemed to work well for the progress of BBCF...

Good call.

Dibs on a team of 300-foot robots with lightning bolts for feet and orange uniforms with tiger stripes.

I heart customization!

[st.cronin]

What is 'chinese' football? Is it like chinese checkers, where you can have five teams playing at once?

[Coffee Warlord]

Good call.

Dibs on a team of 300-foot robots with lightning bolts for feet and orange uniforms with tiger stripes.

I heart customization!

I call giant yaks that shoot penguins out of their mouth!

[DaddyTorgo]

oh wow. so the game has been released?

[QuikSand]

What is 'chinese' football? Is it like chinese checkers, where you can have five teams playing at once?

Six. And the guys all have to wear jerseys with 2,400 characters on them to describe not only their names but their complete family histories. It's awesome.

[cartman]

My team will consist of 11 tiny Ditkas.

I win!!!

:D

[jbmagic]

Good News

You can play this game on the Commodore 64 :)

[sovereignstar]

It's Tuesday night and everyone has different ways of coping with such an anticipated release. Some can't even bare to open their eyes.

http://biology.queensu.ca/~snets/Pitchfork.JPG

[digamma]

The natives are getting restless over there. One dude claims he took a vacation day to play the game.

Nice work, boys.

[st.cronin]

My team will consist of 11 tiny Ditkas.

I win!!!

:D

My team will consist of 11.3 tiny Ditkas. You are PAWNED.

[cthomer5000]

I *am* anticipating this game.

[QuikSand]

The natives are getting restless over there. One dude claims he took a vacation day to play the game.

He took tomorrow off?

[sovereignstar]

He took tomorrow off?

No. Apparently he took tonight off. Or rather, HE TOOK TONIGHT OFF!!1!

[QuikSand]

Ah, of course... was giving him way too much credit there.

[cthomer5000]

He took tomorrow off?
He has a floating vacation day that is automatically triggered when the game is released. Been waiting for that day since 1999.

[cthomer5000]

by the way, someone over there in the Suggestion/Wishlist forum has already asked if they're working on Maximum Football 2.

[sovereignstar]

by the way, someone over there in the Suggestion/Wishlist forum has already asked if they're working on Maximum Football 2.

Now that is fucking ridiculous. That should've been posted in the general discussion forum.

[digamma]

by the way, someone over there in the Suggestion/Wishlist forum has already asked if they're working on Maximum Football 2.
That posting style seems very familiar.

[QuikSand]

by the way, someone over there in the Suggestion/Wishlist forum has already asked if they're working on Maximum Football 2.

The developer has already started talking about how certain features are going to have to be put off for M-F2. That's rich.

[sovereignstar]

That posting style seems very familiar.

Yeah, it's kind of all over the internet.

[Bee]

The developer has already started talking about how certain features are going to have to be put off for M-F2. That's rich.
There's only so much you can put into a game with such a short development cycle...

[Toddzilla]

He has a floating vacation day that is automatically triggered when the game is released. Been waiting for that day since 1999.1999:
Sucker: "Um, boss? My, er, grandma is coming into town to visit me and I need to pick her up at the airport, so can I have next Monday off?"
Boss: "Sure."

2006:
Boss: "So, when's that Granny of yours gonna show up?"
Sucker "Um, any day now I think. Her colitis is still acting up..."

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ORIGINAL: Shaggyra

Maximum Lacrosse also


OMG, dats jus dumb, there wil be no sales, but if he makes that may
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ORIGINAL: frunky

He's gonna do Maximum Hockey next


DATS A WASTE OF TIME, I wpuld just make a CFL game again


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[QuikSand]

I almost can't see how this thread gets any better if/when there's an actual product.

[st.cronin]

I'm imaging a game called Maximum Field Hockey. My team would be 18 Anna Kournikovas. GIANT Anna Kournikovas.

[cthomer5000]

By the way, buried deep in a thread over there I read that the same PDF manual will come with both the download and boxed version. So the boxed version is simply the CD in a box I'm guessing, with no additional documentation. The box must be worth the extra $10, right? I mean if it was worth delaying the release over...

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Status: online http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/image/blank.gif </td> <td class="msg" bgcolor="#e1e1e1" valign="top" width="100%"> Just to clarify, if I pick the download version, I will also want the full manual, which I assume will be available as a pdf file in the download. I wouldn't mind ordering the box + download for the extra $10.00 but I don't want to wait for it.
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The download and the boxed version both have a PDF manual and they are identical "full manuals" in both versions.

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[ahbrady]

The natives are getting restless over there. One dude claims he took a vacation day to play the game.

Nice work, boys.

Most optimistic guy ever.

[Bee]

So...there's about 30 people in the Maximus Football Forum on release night (counting myself). One is Jennifer Winters (whom I'm assuming is the developers wife). I'm guessing based on the numbers reading this thread about 5-6 are people watching the train wreck. That leaves about 24 people who are looking to download the game. That's at least 3 times the number I was expecting. This may be a runaway success...

[johneh]

Wow check out the latest screenshot:

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drool!

[Dutch]

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CFL_fan: relax, go for a walk, learn how to type, etc.

That's what happens when you type with your palms.

The Maximum Lacrosse always intrigued me. Outsides of a very poor release from Acclaim a few years back, this is one sport that has been woefully underserviced. It may be more of a 'niche' following, but it's one I'd definitely buy.
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[Bee]

So, you'd like to know about the release? - 2/22/2006 2:11:18 AM
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I won't go into details (because I'll probably get yelled at), but the beta forums have been ripe with activity today.
Patience, my pet. Patience.



I can't imagine this game having any issues the day of the release...:D

[Bee]

And it keeps getting better:


Matrix didn't tell you to take a vacation

there is no guarantees in the gaming industry

There's alot of people here
I think if this game turns out to be a good it might actually give Madden a little shove


That would explain the extra 10 people in the forum...they're EA guys checking out the competition! :D

[Dutch]

Patience, my pet. Patience.
Does anybody else picture the sweaty Star Wars Kid typing that?

[KWhit]

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there is no guarantees in the gaming industry

There's alot of people here http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/image/s11.gif
I think if this game turns out to be a good it might actually give Madden a little shove

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That Madden comment is great.

Edit: Doh! Bee beat me to it.

:)

[cartman]

So there is a lot of activity on the beta forums of a game that has gone gold, on the day the game is supposed to be released. That is certainly an encouraging sign.

[KWhit]

So there is a lot of activity on the beta forums of a game that has gone gold. That is certainly an encouraging sign.
I just commented on that in the MF forum (before I read your post).

:D

[stevew]

We could take this game, combine it with courside challenge basketball, and have the ultimate vaporware sim game. Courtside Football.

[cthomer5000]

We could take this game, combine it with courside challenge basketball, and have the ultimate vaporware sim game. Courtside Football.
Get Duke Nukem Forever involved and we have a winner.

[Buccaneer]

R U OLD ENOUGH OT TELL WUT 2 DO, CUZ OBVIOUSLY U DUNNO I'M IN DA EAST TIME ZONE!!!
Sorry Pumpy, but this dude is my new hero.

[cthomer5000]

Release should be any day now
.

[ice4277]

I saw three new pages to this thread since I last checked here, and thought the game was released.

May have been the stupidest thought I've ever had.

[cthomer5000]

I saw three new pages to this thread since I last checked here, and thought the game was released.

May have been the stupidest thought I've ever had.
Things are really starting to get a little testy over there.

[hoosierdude]

Can you see if this game is delayed a little? A tester posting that there was a lot of activity today on the testers forum... Does this mean good or bad?

I am ready for the first big issue(s) (I believe there will be more than one with the game...seeing how it is playing out and how Winter reacts to criticism.) and see how Matrix and D. Winter handle the masses and their complaints.

Should make for an entertaining week. :)

[KWhit]

They just announced that they are delaying the release a year so that they can add a custom option for the rouge to count 12 points!!111!!!1!!

OMFG!!!!!11!!!!!


:eek:

[stevew]

shit, threads on this game go back to 2003 in the archives. That's hilarious.

[KWhit]

shit, threads on this game go back to 2003 in the archives. That's hilarious.
And there (evidently) was another forum that dated before then.

[sovereignstar]

Oh boy.

I think if this game turns out to be a good it might actually give Madden a little shove

[Poli]

http://www.c64gg.com/Images/W/Worlds_Greatest_Football_Game_intro.gif.

[sovereignstar]

shit, threads on this game go back to 2003 in the archives. That's hilarious.

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=11039

LOL

Edit: Post #11 Post #11!!

[ice4277]

They just announced that they are delaying the release a year so that they can add a custom option for the rouge to count 12 points!!111!!!1!!

OMFG!!!!!11!!!!!


:eek:
Ya know...I had to actually pause and really think about this for a second. Only then did I decide it is a joke. I think. Maybe.

[KWhit]

shit, threads on this game go back to 2003 in the archives. That's hilarious.
Ah, you meant our archives.

That makes more sense.

[sovereignstar]

Hey Erik, we see you on the board...

!!!!!!!

[sovereignstar]

Ping: Thornbird (Our Matrix insider)

What are your current thoughts on the situation?

[KWhit]

Ping: Thornbird (Our Matrix insider)

What are your current thoughts on the situation?
I didn't realize we had a guy on the inside.

[sovereignstar]

I didn't realize we had a guy on the inside.

Well, he is because I say he is. He's actually related to coolroy.

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I was hoping to have better news, so I put off posting for a while, apologies for that. We are working overtime to sort something out here. Those of you who need sleep or have jobs in the morning, I would suggest that you go to bed and check in the morning for more info. We will post something official on the timing in the forum later tonight, sorry I don't have more specific info at the moment. Keep cool until the official post please.

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[KWhit]

Whoops.

[VPI97]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum-Football

[KWhit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum-Football
That's awesome.

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I was hoping to have better news, so I put off posting for a while, apologies for that. We are working overtime to sort something out here. Those of you who need sleep or have jobs in the morning, I would suggest that you go to bed and check in the morning for more info. We will post something official on the timing in the forum later tonight, sorry I don't have more specific info at the moment. Keep cool until the official post please.

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Color me shocked :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[ice4277]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum-Football
I must say, the box art is quite fetching.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Sorry Pumpy, but this dude is my new hero.I can't be mad about that. This guy IS a stud. :)

[duckman]

This thread is the greatest evah!

[DaddyTorgo]

wow. color me nieve but i actually thought they were going to hit this release date. WOW.

[Dutch]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum-Football


1. A Football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football) computer game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_game) developed by Wintervalley Software and published by Matrix Games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_Games) for Windows (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows)-based computers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computers). It was planned for release on February 21 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_21), 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006). The game features no licenses of any current Football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football) league, but allows the user customize the game to their taste. Players can choose to play a game under CFL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Football_League), American football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football), or Indoor football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indoor_football) rules, or create their own league with it's own unique rules. The game also allows complete customization of players and teams, as well as a deep play creation system.

2. Vaporware (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware)


That's awesome.

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</TD><TD class=msg vAlign=top width="100%" bgColor=#e1e1e1>Gentlemen,



I was hoping to have better news, so I put off posting for a while, apologies for that. We are working overtime to sort something out here. Those of you who need sleep or have jobs in the morning, I would suggest that you go to bed and check in the morning for more info. We will post something official on the timing in the forum later tonight, sorry I don't have more specific info at the moment. Keep cool until the official post please.

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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Will somebody tell them to change the box art to a *.png file. So it won't take so long to upload to the digital river server.

[Honolulu_Blue]

This is all going to end badly.

[DaddyTorgo]

I actually feel bad for Matrix in all of this. It appears that they're ending up with some degree of proverbial egg on their face as a result of this, which could well serve to drive away future sales of other games.

[sovereignstar]

I actually feel bad for Matrix in all of this. It appears that they're ending up with some degree of proverbial egg on their face as a result of this, which could well serve to drive away future sales of other games.

So your point is that it shouldn't? :confused:

[DaddyTorgo]

So your point is that it shouldn't? :confused:no. not at all. i suppose it should. my point is that i feel bad for them that they decided to sign to distribute this game. they made an error in judgement.

[ahbrady]

This is all going to end badly.

I don't think it will ever end.

[stevew]

How much does this thing alledgedly cost.

[duckman]

How much does this thing alledgedly cost.
They still haven't calculated it for 2006 figures yet.

[bbor]

How much does this thing alledgedly cost.

With or without a box?

[SFL Cat]

A box? We don't need no stinkin' box!

[cthomer5000]

I don't think it will ever end..


http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/icons/icon14.gif

[JeeberD]

It wasn't released? But what am I going to do with my day off tomorrow? :eek: :mad:

[Rizon]

OUCH.

[cthomer5000]

True story:

When it was first announced, if you had set aside the money to purchase this game in an interest-garnering account... you would own Microsoft.

[Tasan]

Everyone sing it with me now!

This is the dev that never ends
it keeps going on and on my friend
some people started making
not knowing if it was nfl or cfl
and they'll keep developing it forever
just because.....this is the dev that never ends

[SFL Cat]

It wasn't released? But what am I going to do with my day off tomorrow? :eek: :mad:


ummmm....underperform as a substitute GM in the f*ing elitist league. ;)

[JeeberD]

:mad:

I can't wait until my Cowboys meet your fake little Outlaws team on the GEFL field. It will be a slaughter for the ages...

[st.cronin]

It wasn't released? But what am I going to do with my day off tomorrow? :eek: :mad:

google image:

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[cthomer5000]

Who knows if the poor Colonials can ever dig out of the hole Jeeber put them in.

[SFL Cat]

:mad:

I can't wait until my Cowboys meet your fake little Outlaws team on the GEFL field. It will be a slaughter for the ages...

As much as it will pain me to do...I will have to give the Boys an a$$-whipping they won't soon forget.

[JeeberD]

Who knows if the poor Colonials can ever dig out of the hole Jeeber put them in.

Says the man whose team just tied the franchise record for longest losing streak... :rolleyes:

;)

[cthomer5000]

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Status: online http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/image/blank.gif </td> <td class="msg" bgcolor="#e1e1e1" valign="top" width="100%"> Ok, I just got off a conference call with David Heath and David Winter. We are going to play this by ear at the moment as we hope that the delay we are dealing with here will be minimal. We are planning for Thursday now, but we will be keeping you informed regardless. Our continuing testing of the final gold master found some OS-related issues that did not come up in prior testing. Our policy is to fix such issues before release and that's the decision we ended up making here together with David. David Winter has discussed things with us and we believe this can be addressed in a short period of time, hopefully tonight. We will be evaluating this tomorrow and as soon as we are sure that the issue is resolved, we will move forward with the release.

Everyone involved here is going to be pulling some long hours, so we ask for your understanding. Our goal is to make sure we deliver the best possible game, so if we have to slip a couple of days in the scheme of things to do that, we feel it's well worth the trade-off.

Regards,

- Erik

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[JeeberD]

*chortle*

[st.cronin]

If David Winters went to graduate school, how long would it take him to finish his dissertation?

[SFL Cat]

David Winter: Thursday, huh?! Crap...I guess I'd better actually start coding this game now. :cool:

[cthomer5000]

Gold Master. You keep on using that term. I do not think it means what you think it means.

[stevew]

I see his wife is out defending him in threads, that is always good for a laugh. And I'm thinking that my idea of a Gold Master and the one the Maximum guys have has gotta be vastly different.

[Tasan]

...it just keeps going on and on my friends...

[cthomer5000]

FWIW, this thread is now top 10 all-time in page views in the general discussion forum.

[Dutch]

FWIW, this thread is now top 10 all-time in page views in the general discussion forum.
We better get to posting, because the party is DEFINATELY OVER come Thursday. Guaranteed. :)

[SFL Cat]

FWIW, this thread is now top 10 all-time in page views in the general discussion forum.

Amazing, I might have to buy the game just for that reason.

*cough* if it's ever released *cough*

[Tasan]

We better get to posting, because the party is DEFINATELY OVER come Thursday. Guaranteed. :)Why do I not fear this in the least bit?

[JPhillips]

This is actually good news for me. I now have more time to design the uniforms for my Star Trek Universe league. The players are all starships and the field is the size of the galaxy. The ball is a torpedo filled with Spock's body.

I'm still looking for a coach for the Klingons, but be warned that all plays have to be coded in Klingon and Worf is by rule on the Federation team. If anyone's interested let me know after release.

[SFL Cat]

Kewl! I'm in, but only if I can be the Gorns!

[Rizon]

David Winter: Thursday, huh?! Crap...I guess I'd better actually start coding this game now. :cool:

Thursday of what year?

[JeeberD]

And leave it up to Sui to ask the tough questions... :D

[cthomer5000]

And leave it up to Sui to ask the tough questions... :D
Which will be taken as trolling, no doubt.

[sabotai]

This seriously made me laugh out loud: "so if we have to slip a couple of days in the scheme of things to do that, we feel it's well worth the trade-off."

[Tasan]

Thursday of what year?You complete me.

[DaddyTorgo]

Which will be taken as trolling, no doubt.great question by Sui.

and let's not all forget...there won't be a demo for this game. so you'll be buying it on blind faith. blind faith for a game that has been 5 years in development and has been "days from release" for several years now.

yeahhhhhh i can't wait to see how that works out

no demo=no consideration from me. period

[Tasan]

This seriously made me laugh out loud: "so if we have to slip a couple of days in the scheme of things to do that, we feel it's well worth the trade-off."I guess when you actually count it up, lets see:
365 * 6 (We'll say they 'started' actual dev in 2000, give them 1999 as a concept year) = 2190.

2190+2 (for leap years) = 2192

2192 + 31 (for Jan) = 2223

2223 + 21 (for up til the 'release' date) = 2244

2244 total days from the start of 2000 working on this.

2 / 2244 (for the two days they are 'delaying') = .0000089%

I'd say thats not asking much








to get the best darn football game evern, doggoneit!

[DaddyTorgo]

and it has started. i don't have the skillz to do the pretty "pasting from the matrix forums" thing, but here ya go

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Status: online http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/image/blank.gif I'm sorry people but I have now completely given up on this product.The only smart move now is to wait for a month or so after release and see if the bugs are ironed out.No way the fisrt release can be worth its salt.

How did a well respected company like Matrix get involved in such a sloppy situation as Maximum Football??????

They maybe should have stuck with a legend like Steel Panthers.

[st.cronin]

And leave it up to Sui to ask the tough questions... :D

link?

[DaddyTorgo]

hxxp://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1067644

[SFL Cat]

It's almost like watching a train wreck in slo-mo. I feel kind of bad for DW and Matrix, but I just can't look away from the debacle.

[dawgfan]

My bad.

[SFL Cat]

ummm....

The gold or general availability release version of a product is the final version of a particular product. It is typically almost identical to the final release candidate, with only last-minute bugs fixed. A gold release is considered to be very stable and relatively bug-free with a quality suitable for wide distribution and use by end users. In commercial software releases, this version may also be signed (used to allow end-users to verify that code has not been modified since the release). The expression that a software product "has gone gold" means that the code has been completed and "is being mass-produced and will be for sale soon." Other terms for the version include gold master, gold release, or gold build.

The term gold anecdotally refers to the use of "gold master disc" which was commonly used to send the final version to manufacturers who use it to create the mass-produced retail copies. It may in this context be a hold-over from music production. In some cases, however, the master disc is still actually made of gold, for both aesthetic appeal and resistance to corrosion.

Microsoft and others use the term "release to manufacturing" (RTM) to refer to this version (as in, "Build 2600 is the Windows XP RTM release").

[dawgfan]

Whoops, mixed up release candidate and gone gold.

[Thornbird]

I just hope this game gets released soon cuz it's starting to get ridiculous. I know Dave can be arrogant at times but I'm still hoping this is a good game because this is the only PC football game with graphics that we're gonna see besides Madden. EA just keeps taking out features and adding crappy ones and they hose the PC version even worse.

If this game fails then NFL Head Coach and Division Rivals are the last hope http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/smilies/confused.gif Well actually just Division Rivals cuz EA will most likely put restrictions to the game.

[dawgfan]

I just hope this game gets released soon cuz it's starting to get ridiculous. I know Dave can be arrogant at times but I'm still hoping this is a good game because this is the only PC football game with graphics that we're gonna see besides Madden. EA just keeps taking out features and adding crappy ones and they hose the PC version even worse.

If this game fails then NFL Head Coach and Division Rivals are the last hope http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/smilies/confused.gif Well actually just Division Rivals cuz EA will most likely put restrictions to the game.
Hate to burst your bubble, but there's virtually no chance a developer the size of David Winter will be able to produce anything in the same area code as EA in terms of a 3D graphics football game. They just don't have the resources to compete in that arena.

[Thornbird]

Hate to burst your bubble, but there's virtually no chance a developer the size of David Winter will be able to produce anything in the same area code as EA in terms of a 3D graphics football game. They just don't have the resources to compete in that arena.
Yes I realize it can't possibly compete in the graphics department it is obvious in screenshots but graphics aren't everything.

[bbor]

Must stop refreshing this thread.....

[sovereignstar]

Yes I realize it can't possibly compete in the graphics department it is obvious in screenshots but graphics aren't everything.

You are correct. Graphics are NOT everything.

Customization is, chillld.

[MikeVic]

I've never heard of this game before, but from what I've skimmed in this thread, should be a winnar?

[dawgfan]

Yes I realize it can't possibly compete in the graphics department it is obvious in screenshots but graphics aren't everything.
OK, but I don't get your original point then. You say you hope it succeeds to give Madden some competition in the graphical PC football games market, but there's no chance this game can do that. Unless 2K decides to make a port of their sports games to the PC, you're going to be stuck with Madden for graphical football games on the PC that are worth a damn.

And really, since we can see that graphically this game is very primitive, Matrix is going to have to hope that the sim engine driving this thing is top-notch in order to draw any kind of audience. Do you have any confidence that this might be true?

Had Winter not been so wildly over-ambitious, he probably could've filled a nice niche by giving the text-sim market an FOF-style football sim that added simple, XOR Football type graphics to represent the action on the field. It would've been much easier for a developer of his resources to acheive and wouldn't have nearly as long to finish.

[Ragone]

I think i got Matrix Software's new slogan


Matrix Software - There is no Master

[JeffR]

Had Winter not been so wildly over-ambitious, he probably could've filled a nice niche by giving the text-sim market an FOF-style football sim that added simple, XOR Football type graphics to represent the action on the field. It would've been much easier for a developer of his resources to acheive and wouldn't have nearly as long to finish.

Maybe the thing to do would have been to aim it at the single-season replay niche, if there's even such a thing for football games. Forget career mode, just churn out a series of well-researched 'season disks' for single leagues and years and sell them via download for a few bucks each. That's the only market I can really see for this thing - the career-sim guys (i.e., us) aren't interested, and I can't imagine many Madden fans giving it a second look after seeing the graphics.

[wade moore]

Who knows if the poor Colonials can ever dig out of the hole Jeeber put them in.
http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/smilies/frown.gif

[Bee]

You have to really give props to the guys that have been following this game for 5 or 6 years and haven't given up on it yet. There aren't too many people faithful to their wives for that long...

[ahbrady]

You have to really give props to the guys that have been following this game for 5 or 6 years and haven't given up on it yet. There aren't too many people faithful to their wives for that long...
True, but wives aren't customizable.

[Bee]

True, but wives aren't customizable.

Not sure about customizable, but mine is pretty flexible. :D

[Bee]

Dola

Not surprising the game is having OS problems...since it was originally designed for DOS. :D

[JonInMiddleGA]

Dola

Not surprising the game is having OS problems...since it was originally designed for DOS. :D

If only this could have been released as intended.
It would have looked great on the TRS-80.
{sigh}
What might have been :(

[SFL Cat]

I just hope this game gets released soon cuz it's starting to get ridiculous. I know Dave can be arrogant at times but I'm still hoping this is a good game because this is the only PC football game with graphics that we're gonna see besides Madden. EA just keeps taking out features and adding crappy ones and they hose the PC version even worse.

If this game fails then NFL Head Coach and Division Rivals are the last hope http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/smilies/confused.gif Well actually just Division Rivals cuz EA will most likely put restrictions to the game.

Based on the screenshots and video captures I've watched, the graphics and animation don't even look as good as FPS in its prime, which I'm assuming is the market he's trying to capture. No way this thing gets close to Madden.

[John Galt]

Gold Master. You keep on using that term. I do not think it means what you think it means.

You have been on an unappreciated roll in this thread. :D

[Butter]

The sad part is, how many people have actually been lurking around there to check out if the game was released? 20? Slightly more or less? I can't say that's going to be a key to commercial success. Especially if this game has no positive buzz surrounding it, and by now I'd say that is BY FAR the case. How many possible sales have they lost on these boards alone? I'd say in the neighborhood of 50, based on a pure guess.

[Bonegavel]

You have to really give props to the guys that have been following this game for 5 or 6 years and haven't given up on it yet.That, or wonder about their mental condition.

[Arctus]

http://www.gamespy.com/articles/688/688964p3.html

GameSpy: A few years ago at all the game conventions you saw several "boutique" developers, small companies, working on MMOs with a small team. Do you think it's still possible in this market to succeed with a product from a small team?


Richard: Well, it was a few years ago, yes. But it definitely won't be a few years from now. We're in the transition right now.
GameSpy: So looking ahead a few years, you feel that only big teams will be able to compete in this space?


Robert: Right, it's the same sort of issue as if you said you were going to compete with John Madden Football. What sort of team would it take to compete with the technology that EA has spent fifteen years refining? It would take a lot of time, even if you had the license. And it would take a lot of money. I think we're in the same situation now, where we're [current industry leaders] developing a lot of technology, like client-server technology, that will make it harder and harder for small shops to emulate.

This is from an interview with Richard and Robert Garriot on the future of MMO's. They must not be aware of Maximum Football. :p

[Bee]

http://www.gamespy.com/articles/688/688964p3.html



This is from an interview with Richard and Robert Garriot on the future of MMO's. They must not be aware of Maximum Football. :p

or they're in denial of the awesomeness that is Maximus Football.

[JPhillips]

Sometimes its hard to be a woman
Giving all your love to just one man
But if you love him
Be proud of him
Cause after all he's just a man


I have been reading some of your more "constructive" posts. I would like to respond to them in this forum.

Firstly I would like to let you know - developing a game is not easy. If you feel that, by yourself, you could develop a better title, then go do it. This man has spent the last five years of his life trying to make you happy. So now, when they are working to make it the best possible game it can be, your complaining. If you've waited five years a few more days aren't going to kill you.

Secondly, as it has been mentioned in other forums, it is JUST a game. Sure, you're all excited, but it's not a sign of the impending Apocolypse if it takes a day or two to work out last minute issues and give you a great release.

Thirdly, I have seen you degrade into personal attacks on the developer of the game you've been salivating over. Perhaps you could voice your concerns in a more mature manner. Keep things in perspective. This game has truly been David's life over the last two years, and in turn, mine. I would appreciate you taking the time to think about how hard these people, both David here, but also Erik and David at Matrix games have been working to get this out the door and please all of you.

I felt a little perspective was needed here.

Now, I know, I have probably offended some of your sensibilities but someone has to rein you guys in.

If you feel like you have to post in response, here's a tip: take a breath, think long and hard about how you're going to say things, and if you feel you must respond, be mature about it.

I do realise that I now will be getting a ton of profane and threatening pms - but that's the price I'll pay if you just let David get this out the door for you.



_____________________________

Jennifer L. Winter
Media Relations
Wintervalley Software

STAND BY YOUR MAN

[wade moore]

I so wanted to reply to it, but held back...

These people need to understand they are running a BUSINESS. That they are making promises to CUSTOMERS. The product their BUSINESS has promised to deliver is about 3 years late. It is absurd to expect civility at more delays. They have no perspective on this issue whatsoever.

[gstelmack]

Not to mention all the slams coming from her husband against text sim developers...

[cartman]

I feel a bit sorry for Shaun Sullivan in all of this. Hopefully people won't equate Maximum Football with his baseball game, which actually does work and is a fine game. since they are both published by the same outfit.

[Butter]

Now THAT'S what I call media relations!

[Anthony]

why does anyone care though? the humor in this has eluded me since like page 12 or so. the game is obviously not gonna be worth anyone's time, not sure why people are taking off of work for this crap and crying about it.

[JeeberD]

the game is obviously not gonna be worth anyone's time, not sure why people are taking off of work for this crap and crying about it.


THAT'S the humor in it...

[cartman]

why does anyone care though? the humor in this has eluded me since like page 12 or so. the game is obviously not gonna be worth anyone's time, not sure why people are taking off of work for this crap and crying about it.

You mean you'd pass up a chance at a game where you could field a starting lineup of 11 Dean Houston's?

[rkmsuf]

what would you buy?

maximum football or a refurbished electric football game?

[Poli]

Dude, I need an electric football game.

[rkmsuf]

never really understood how to play electric football

[Senator]

Ok, I didn't read the thread cuz I am not that bored, but WHEN is this game coming OUT???????

I MUST KNOW!! CANNOT WAIT!!!

[Toddzilla]

True story: When it was first announced, if you had set aside the money to purchase this game in an interest-garnering account... you would own Microsoft.Hey! You stole my TCY2/BBCF joke :p

[Poli]

never really understood how to play electric football
Me either. I owned one 25 years ago, though.

[Poli]

Anyone know the release date of Football Pro '99?

[rkmsuf]

Me either. I owned one 25 years ago, though.

me too. the usual was to set the guys up once, turn it on, stare at them for a few minutes and then leave it out on the floor for days until someone yelled at me to clean it up.

[Bee]

Here are some words from a Beta Tester.

1. It was the first time i have tested a game and it was or better is an unique experience. You learn how complex the game is what all can happen when you change "little" things.

2. I have played Micropose (?) Ultimate Football 94 and 95, all sierra titels since FPS 95 and some others. The state of MF is now better than all the other games i have mentioned (even after they were patched). When i had to choose between MF (e.g. yesterday-version) FPS sports vers. 1.08 i would choose MF. Despite the basic career mode for MF it was very hard to achieve relatistic results with FPS 98 (i think some have forgotten this). FPS 98 was a nice experience but it has till to the end some serious problems. It was the community who made the game so great.

3. quote:

In other words, if I watch a CPU/CPU season (all 16 games for one team), will the statistics be similar to a completely simmed season?

I did not such a test but i played or watched league games and compared it with stats from sim games. There should be no significant differences.

BTW. Gambler - Your approach is very realistic.


So what I take from this post is that it's better than a couple football games from 95-96 although doesn't have as deep of a career mode...and the beta tester seems to really struggle with the English language.

edit: And no I didn't run the original post through a jbmagic translator.

[JeeberD]

Me either. I owned one 25 years ago, though.


Ised to line up my players in a 3x3 block with the extra players on the front end and the ball carrier in the middle of the mass. There was no way to stop that brutal running game, and thank goodness my big brother didn't care about actual football rules.

[Poli]

I tried to make a Christmas tree formation or something. I also held the quarterback up to eye level to try and throw the ball.

My favorite was to put stuff on top of the field and turn the knob so everything rattled.

My mom must have hated me.

[Toddzilla]

"Your account has not been activated.

You need to find out the registeration confirmation e-mail sent to you when you registered and then follow the instruction to activate your account."

Wow - even their forums have Maximum Spelling Customization!

[Senator]

I tried to make a Christmas tree formation or something. I also held the quarterback up to eye level to try and throw the ball.

My favorite was to put stuff on top of the field and turn the knob so everything rattled.

My mom must have hated me.

If you tried to run the statue of liberty play you would just vibrate out of bounds for a loss.

[Bonegavel]

never really understood how to play electric footballI think you had to put up a barrier between Off/Def, set up your play, then remove the barrier and turn on the juice.

The lifting of the piece of paper (or whatever you used) was always a great moment.

[st.cronin]

So, will the game be out by Friday?

[rkmsuf]

What would be cool is if someone could hack their board and everytime you enter it plays Benny Hill music.

[duckman]

What would be cool is if someone could hack their board and everytime you enter it plays Benny Hill music.
LOL! :D

[bbor]

What would be cool is if someone could hack their board and everytime you enter it plays Benny Hill music.

Best post in this thread.LOL:D

[Toddzilla]

Over on the MFer forum, the main dude is telling the nay-sayers to wait until the game is released before being critical. No wonder the game isn't out yet.

[Sweed]

So what I take from this post is that it's better than a couple football games from 95-96 although doesn't have as deep of a career mode...and the beta tester seems to really struggle with the English language.

edit: And no I didn't run the original post through a jbmagic translator.

That's what I got from it. He forgot to mention that he hasn't played Madden, any 2k game, or FOF because anything released after 1999 doesn't count :)

[Anthony]

You mean you'd pass up a chance at a game where you could field a starting lineup of 11 Dean Houston's?

there can only be one.

[Sweed]

Sometimes its hard to be a woman
Giving all your love to just one man
But if you love him
Be proud of him
Cause after all he's just a man




STAND BY YOUR MAN

DW is just a man? I was under the impression he was the second coming, thanks for bursting that bubble :rolleyes:

[DeftRevisited]

It's amazing they are going to release football game that doesn't have FOF play design capabilities and doesn't limit itself to an NFL style league. I don't know what they are thinking. It would be horrible if anyone tried to do anything different than what is already available.

[rkmsuf]

It's amazing they are going to release football game

:D

[Toddzilla]

What would be cool is if someone could hack their board and everytime you enter it plays Benny Hill music.Ask and ye shall receive....well, sort of:

Maximum Hilarity (http://maxfoot.ytmnd.com/)

[rkmsuf]

Ask and ye shall receive....well, sort of:

Maximum Hilarity (http://maxfoot.ytmnd.com/)


BRILLIANT! You magnificient bastard!

[MrBigglesworth]

Ask and ye shall receive....well, sort of:

Maximum Hilarity (http://maxfoot.ytmnd.com/)
That. Is. Awesome.

[SFL Cat]

HATERS!!!


*cough* awesome job Toddzilla *cough*

[cthomer5000]

*drys a tear from his eye*

[rkmsuf]

I guess posting that over there would be considered piling on.

[duckman]

It's amazing they are going to release football game that doesn't have FOF play design capabilities and doesn't limit itself to an NFL style league. I don't know what they are thinking. It would be horrible if anyone tried to do anything different than what is already available.
David, is that you?

[wade moore]

wow.

my tumby hurts.

I haven't laughed that loud with no one else around in a LONG time..

[KWhit]

David, is that you?
Be nice. It's his wife, dude.

[duckman]

Be nice. It's his wife, dude.
Sorry, I can't tell them apart. :D

[Bee]

I wonder how many threads on their board have 900+ posts? Heck, I wonder if their board has 900+ posts...

:D

[Toddzilla]

David, is that you?Hey, come on now, this guy hasn't posted since September of 2004 and now when he...does....you...

...

(Hmmmm, September 2004? The original release date for Maximum Football? Coincidence?)

...

...never mind.

[bbor]

I wonder how many threads on their board have 900+ posts? Heck, I wonder if their board has 900+ posts...

:D


We must all be secretly pining for this game ;)

[Toddzilla]

It's amazing they are going to release football game that doesn't have FOF play design capabilities and doesn't limit itself to an NFL style league. I don't know what they are thinking. It would be horrible if anyone tried to do anything different than what is already available.I'd consider pushing a release date back almost 4 years very different, but not in a good way. So, in that case, it is horrible. Touche!

DeftRevisited - 1
FOFC - 0

Now run along, you've got some more potential customers to deceive.

[JPhillips]

I thought this was interesting.

The Homepage for Wintervalley Software.

Welcome to Wintervalley

For over 12 years Wintervalley Software has been providing custom software solutions for a wide range of requirements.

From industrial machine applications, product license tracking, accounting & invoicing, to multimedia and entertainment products, Wintervalley has the skills and knowledge to take your needs and turn them into a software solution.

We take the time to understand your needs to serve you better.
We use the latest in software engineering techniques and development tools to bring your solution to completion on time or faster.
Competitive rates.
At Wintervalley Software, we provide you with the software solutions you need to grow your business.

[Bee]

That's hilarious. :D

[DeftRevisited]

The expected release on the page also says 2002. They should have done a better job of managing customer expectations but, the tone of the posts around here reminds me of why we haven't had a decent non-text football sim in 7 years.

[wade moore]

The expected release on the page also says 2002. They should have done a better job of managing customer expectations but, the tone of the posts around here reminds me of why we haven't had a decent non-text football sim in 7 years.
Dude.

Seriously.

The game is FIVE YEARS LATE and has had a rolling expectation every few months...

How can you expect for anyone to take them seriously or give them respect or benefit of the doubt with anything they say. They are the definition of a joke.

[Eaglesfan27]

What is the world coming to?

Druez actually has a good post in the thread started by David's wife.

[Eaglesfan27]

The expected release on the page also says 2002. They should have done a better job of managing customer expectations but, the tone of the posts around here reminds me of why we haven't had a decent non-text football sim in 7 years.
Every sign points to the fact that we will be waiting longer than 7 years.

[Bee]

The expected release on the page also says 2002. They should have done a better job of managing customer expectations but, the tone of the posts around here reminds me of why we haven't had a decent non-text football sim in 7 years.

yes, it's fear of being ridiculed by FOFC that has kept football games down since the fiasco of NFL Football 99. FEAR THE FOFC! :D

[Buzzbee]

The expected release on the page also says 2002. They should have done a better job of managing customer expectations but, the tone of the posts around here reminds me of why we haven't had a decent non-text football sim in 7 years.Aha!!! It isn't because of box art, adding a career mode, lack of programming resources, insanely ambitious release dates, or just plain stupidity that the game hasn't been release yet. It is because of the tone of the posts around here. Maybe if we change our tone the game will be completed faster. Maybe if we had a positive tone all along it only would have taken 4 years for someone to publish a decent non-text football sim.

EDIT: Bee is obviously quicker than Buzzbee.;)

[JAG]

We didn't want to announce a new estimate until we could discuss in detail with David. Since he's three hours behind us and works a day job

...which I hope he's not planning on quitting...

[MrBigglesworth]

The expected release on the page also says 2002. They should have done a better job of managing customer expectations but, the tone of the posts around here reminds me of why we haven't had a decent non-text football sim in 7 years.
If I had to say yesterday one thing that this thread lacked, it would be a YTMND set to Benny Hill music. If I had to say two things it lacked, first would be the YTMND set to Benny Hill music, and second would be a Maximum Football supporter to act as a foil for the various FOFC members to pile on to.

/goes off to make popcorn

[KWhit]

Does anybody else find it odd that Matrix couldn't get in touch with David to talk about this release-delaying problem because he was at his other job?

[Neuqua]

There's no topping Toddzilla's post in this thread.

[VPI97]

Does anybody else find it odd that Matrix couldn't get in touch with David to talk about this release-delaying problem because he was at his other job?When everything about a game and it's developer is odd, something like that isn't all that surprising.

[Tasan]

Odd? No, not one bit. I hope he doesn't have his resignation letter all typed up either. I hope he's there putting in overtime, bucking for a promotion.

[Izulde]

What would really be funny is if he did quit his day job, thinking MF was going to set him for life :D

[Bonegavel]

I am changing my opinion from "the game may get released some day" to "never getting released." Even at this hour (especially when the matrix web site has the words "Release Date : February 15, 2006" next to the game).

Matrix is going to get this elusive Gold Master and realize there is no game here. I think it will turn out to be, at most, a hobbist play tool (an excercise in 3d modelling, if you will).

Matrix Games has published a lot of good titles over the years and I don't see any way that this game can be up to their standards.

[Izulde]

it. This man has spent the last five years of his life trying to make you happy.

This game has truly been David's life over the last two years, and in turn, mine.



_____________________________

Jennifer L. Winter
Media Relations
Wintervalley Software

So the first three years were just idle masturbation?

[Coffee Warlord]

So the first three years were just idle masturbation?

The first three years was merely box art development.

[Toddzilla]

So the first three years were just idle masturbation?
BRILLIANT chice of words :D

[Bee]

Aha!!! It isn't because of box art, adding a career mode, lack of programming resources, insanely ambitious release dates, or just plain stupidity that the game hasn't been release yet. It is because of the tone of the posts around here. Maybe if we change our tone the game will be completed faster. Maybe if we had a positive tone all along it only would have taken 4 years for someone to publish a decent non-text football sim.

EDIT: Bee is obviously quicker than Buzzbee.;)

quicker, but I liked your take better. :D

[Bee]

There's no topping Toddzilla's post in this thread.

No offense to Toddzilla, but we've thought that before about other posts and yet they keep getting better. :D

[Apathetic Lurker]

It still won't be as bad a total control football(?). You know, the one with Cowher on the cover

[Izulde]

It still won't be as bad a total control football(?). You know, the one with Cowher on the cover

I actually liked that one. The only problem I had with it was you had no baseline to go off of as far as contracts go and it was really easy to hose your team.

[astrosfan64]

What is the world coming to?

Druez actually has a good post in the thread started by David's wife.


It is pretty bad when his wife comes out to defend him......

[QuikSand]

If you feel that, by yourself, you could develop a better title, then go do it.

This is, without a doubt, my favorite argument of all, anywhere. If certainly fits here just as comfortably as it does in the whole milieu of sports, politics, etc. NO - you can't complain about Jerramy Stevens dropping three passes... unless YOU yourself are a NFL-caliber tight end. NO, you can't complain about the decision by the Supreme Court, unless YOU yourself are a legal scholar on individual property rights. Fantastic!

[Gary Gorski]

Congrats, you now have my full undivided attention. This is your heads up notfication. The Matrix Games forums have rules and policies and they apply to all users, in all forums and at all times. The first one being that insults and personal shots are a no-go at this station. Period.

Roffle. Maybe Vic should clarify the fine print on those Matrix rules. They must state that as long as its the developer insulting the work of other developers that's ok just as long as nobody on the forums insults David.

[dervack]

Roffle. Maybe Vic should clarify the fine print on those Matrix rules. They must state that as long as its the developer insulting the work of other developers that's ok just as long as nobody on the forums insults David.
sounds about right. Isn't that the same at GDS? :D

[sovereignstar]

It's funny how Ben singles out the actions of Druez and Suicane as if they are the only guilty parties involved with Max-bashing. Puh-leeeeeeeeeeeeeez

[Ben E Lou]

It's funny how Ben singles out the actions of Druez and Suicane as if they are the only guilty parties involved with Max-bashing. Puh-leeeeeeeeeeeeeezI really thought you were brighter than that. I'm waiting on the inevitable response to move in for the kill. In these sorts of things, it is generally best to think two posts ahead.

[FrogMan]

so, I stay away from FOFC for one day, three pages have been added to the thread here... so what's the news, has this been released yet?

FM

[Poli]

Yep, you hadn't heard? :)

[cartman]

I really thought you were brighter than that. I'm waiting on the inevitable response to move in for the kill. In these sorts of things, it is generally best to think two posts ahead.

The "Smack Down Fu" is strong in this one

[sovereignstar]

I really thought you were brighter than that.

Really? I'm surprised you even remember who I am, even though I just posted a few moments ago.

[cartman]

Guten tag, Tullius!

[Ben E Lou]

Really? I'm surprised you even remember who I am, even though I just posted a few moments ago.You're the guy who hacked HA's board, right?

[BigJimSlade]

Hey guys, I'm new here. I would like to know what David Winter has said about other text based developers. I was planning on buying this game until I heard about his attitude.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Uh oh! It's BIG JIM SLADE!

(I haven't seen The Kentucky Fried Movie in years, but the Big Jim Slade entrance always sticks in my mind)

[sovereignstar]

You're the guy who hacked HA's board, right?

No, I'm the guy who was given the master password to Hell Atlantic's site by Hell Atlantic and then accused of hacking when I used it. Fuck, I remember telling you about that, but it looks like you forgot. Hell Atlantic's the guy who mocked the rape and beating of a little girl on these boards, right?

[BigJimSlade]

and the capital of Nebraska is Lincoln...

[Eaglesfan27]

Hey guys, I'm new here. I would like to know what David Winter has said about other text based developers. I was planning on buying this game until I heard about his attitude.
You can read his threads on there or look earlier in this thread, but he has said several insulting/condescending things about other developers in an attempt to promote his own work.

[st.cronin]

Can anybody confirm that there actually was a beta process?

[stevew]

Maximus was a beta tester.

[st.cronin]

Maximus was a beta tester.

Isn't he the guy that faked his own death?

[Pumpy Tudors]

Isn't he the guy that faked his own death?Isn't this the game that faked its imminent release?

[st.cronin]

Isn't this the game that faked its imminent release?

Well, I guess it's a perfect marriage. What if he didn't fake his own death, but was framed by Matrix, and had to go into hiding, because he knew all the beta secrets ...

[Antmeister]

I still can't believe this game is $40. While I realize that the game is customizable (to some extent), there is no career play, no draft options, trading, etc. If you are going to spend that much money on a game, I would suggest getting Madden 2005 from the bargain bin (about $5 to $10 dependeping on where you buy it). If you want to do Pop Warner, you could buy Backyard Football for about $15 and last year's EA college title can be found in the bargain bin as well.

At max, you would be spending $35 dollars and have a much deeper playing experience than this. But maybe it is just me.

I guess I left out that whole Canadian rules football. Maybe that is the only drawback.

[Pumpy Tudors]

You know, I think I'm going to play EA Sports Arena Football right now. It's actual Arena Football, not "indoor football" like Maximum Football is supposed to have.

[Poli]

I still can't believe this game is $40. While I realize that the game is customizable (to some extent), there is no career play, no draft options, trading, etc. If you are going to spend that much money on a game, I would suggest getting Madden 2005 from the bargain bin (about $5 to $10 dependeping on where you buy it). If you want to do Pop Warner, you could buy Backyard Football for about $15 and last year's EA college title can be found in the bargain bin as well.

At max, you would be spending $35 dollars and have a much deeper playing experience than this. But maybe it is just me.

I guess I left out that whole Canadian rules football. Maybe that is the only drawback.
Free your mind. The rest will follow.

[Izulde]

Free your mind. The rest will follow.

Free your mind... Arrest your body!

[Ben E Lou]

Sucker.

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Status: online image/blank.gif </td> <td class="msg" bgcolor="#e1e1e1" valign="top" width="100%">My guess is everyone with Erik and David completing the final tests I am willing to guess that the release that is available to us will be extremely solid if not perfect. I truely believe this. </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" bgcolor="#d8d8db" width="100%"> <table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="100%"> <tbody> <tr> <td>image/emailToAuthor.gif (#) image/pm.gif (#) image/address.gif (address.asp?memID=14801&mode=addindividual) image/block.gif (address.asp?memID=14801&mode=block&pg=tm&m=1068423)</td> <td align="right">Post #: 1 (#) image/asc.gif (#)</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody> </table> <!-- Message Ends Here --> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="98%"> <tbody> <tr> <td align="middle" bgcolor="#336699"> <table border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" width="100%"> <tbody> <tr bgcolor="#336699"> <th align="middle">Page: [1] </th></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody> </table>

[cthomer5000]

Oh, and from that same guy SkyDog:

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To focus our attention elsewhere to other things instead of bothering David and Erik has anyone read the Football For Dummies book by Howie Long? I picked it up last weekend some of the introductory reading seems decent.
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[Buccaneer]

Firstly I would like to let you know - developing a game is not easy. If you feel that, by yourself, you could develop a better title, then go do it. This man has spent the last five years of his life trying to make you happy. So now, when they are working to make it the best possible game it can be, your complaining. If you've waited five years a few more days aren't going to kill you.

Secondly, as it has been mentioned in other forums, it is JUST a game. Sure, you're all excited, but it's not a sign of the impending Apocolypse if it takes a day or two to work out last minute issues and give you a great release.
How can it be that whenever a game is about to be released (or alledgedly), there are those so dying to get it that they lose all sense of perspective and use of brain cells. We've seen this in every single forum out there. Is it some cartel of immature morons that goes around and posts that if they don't get the game NOWw, they will blow up the world? There can't be that many morons out there, can there?

[Ben E Lou]

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</td></tr></tbody> </table>Wow. Just wow. :D

[wade moore]

How can it be that whenever a game is about to be released (or alledgedly), there are those so dying to get it that they lose all sense of perspective and use of brain cells. We've seen this in every single forum out there. Is it some cartel of immature morons that goes around and posts that if they don't get the game NOWw, they will blow up the world? There can't be that many morons out there, can there?
that was a rhetorical question, right?