OT: The FOFC Comedy Draft

[Maple Leafs]

The rosters:
DeToxRoxDVHStyle
1.1 George Carlin (standup)
2.10 Sam Kinison (standup)
3.1 John Belushi (sketch)
4.10 Sarah Silverman (standup)
5.1 Dennis Leary (standup)
6.10 Chris Farley (sketch)
7.1 Vince Vaughn (movies)
8.10 Craig Kilborne (talk show/variety)
9.1 Ed O'Neill (sitcom)
10.10 Christina Applegate (movies)

sachmo71
1.2 Steve Martin (standup)
2.9 Lenny Bruce (standup)
3.2 Bill Murray (movies)
4.9 Billy Crystal (talk show/variety)
5.2 Lily Tomlin (sketch)
6.9 Mel Brooks (movies)
7.2 Eddie Izzard (standup)
8.9 Jean Stapleton (sitcom)
9.2 Jack Black (standup)
10.9 Dave Foley (sketch)

Schmidty
1.3 Jerry Seinfeld (sitcom)
2.8 Groucho Marx (movies)
3.3 Woody Allen (standup)
4.8 Jon Stewart (talk show/variety)
5.3 Mark Twain (standup)
6.8 Madeline Kahn (sketch)
7.3 Gene Wilder (movies)
8.8 George Burns (standup)
9.3 Catherine O'Hara (standup)
10.8 Eugene Levy (sketch)

Maple Leafs
1.4 Richard Pryor (standup)
1.7 Johnny Carson (talk show/variety)
3.4 Steven Wright (standup)
4.7 Whoopi Goldberg (movies)
5.4 Mike Myers (movies)
7.4 Mitch Hedberg (standup)
8.7 Will Ferrell (sketch)
9.4 Adam Sandler (sketch)
10.4 Phyllis Diller (standup) via trade
10.7 Rowan Atkinson (sitcom)

oliegirl
1.5 Robin Williams (standup)
2.6 Eddie Murphy (movies)
3.5 Gilda Radner (sketch)
4.6 Jim Carrey (movies)
5.5 Mary Tyler Moore (sitcom)
6.6 Jeff Foxworthy (standup)
7.5 Dana Carvey (sketch)
8.6 Arsenio Hall (talk show/variety)
9.5 Tim Allen (standup)
10.6 Henny Youngman (stand up)

sabotai
1.6 Bill Hicks (standup)
2.5 Dave Chapelle (sketch)
3.6 Conan O'Brien (talk show/variety)
4.5 Roseanne (standup)
5.6 Jerry Lewis (movies)
6.5 Lewis Black (standup)
7.6 Dane Cook (standup)
8.5 Ted Danson (sitcom)
9.6 Leslie Nielsen (movies)
10.5 Molly Shannon (sketch)

kcchief19
2.4 David Letterman (talk show/variety)
2.7 Jay Leno (standup) via trade
3.7 Ricky Gervais (sitcom)
4.4 Phil Hartman (sketch)
5.7 Ellen Degeneres (standup)
6.4 Christopher Guest (movies)
6.7 Goldie Hawn (movies) (via trade)
7.7 Damon Wayans (sketch)
8.4 Milton Berle (standup)
9.7 Albert Brooks (standup)

vtbub
1.8 Bob Hope (standup)
2.3 Chris Rock (standup)
3.8 Carol Burnett (talk show/variety)
4.3 Tim Conway (sketch)
5.8 Ted Knight (sitcom)
6.3 John Candy (movies)
7.8 Chevy Chase (movies)
8.3 Jan Hooks (sketch)
9.8 Buddy Hackett (standup)
10.3 Bernie Mac (standup_)

albionmoonlight
1.9 Charlie Chaplin (movies)
2.2 Lucille Ball (sitcom)
3.9 John Cleese (sketch)
4.2 Redd Foxx (standup)
5.9 Andy Kauffman (standup)
6.2 Dan Akroyd (movies)
7.9 Jane Curtin (sketch)
8.2 Don Rickles (standup)
9.9 Tom Smothers (talk show/variety)
10.2 Cedric the Entertainer (standup)

Swaggs
1.10 Bill Cosby (standup)
2.1 Rodney Dangerfield (standup)
3.10 Bob Newhart (sitcom)
4.1 Benny Hill (sketch)
5.10 Howard Stern (talk show/variety)
6.1 Tracey Ullman (sketch)
7.10 Bud Abbot (movies)
8.1 Lou Costello (movies)
9.10 Wanda Sykes (standup)
10.1 Ray Romano (standup)

We've done a few draft threads over the years at FOFC. At one point a few years ago there was a new one sprouting up every few days (including the infamous video game draft). They were a pretty mixed bag in terms of success, but I've seen them do quite well on other forums so let's give it another shot.

So... Welcome to the FOFC Comedy Draft.

How to play:
If you want to play, PM me. If there's a lot of interest, I'll randomly select ten players. If there's not much interest, we'll just go with the first ten.

The draft will be conducted via the foum, in this thread. When it's your turn to draft, you post, ideally with a brief note about the reason for your choice. If you won't be around, you PM someone else your picks in advance to keep things moving.

The draft is a serpentine draft, which is a fancy way of saying that the order reverses each round. Draft order will be determined randomly before we start.

How to win:
The fun here comes more from the draft itself than from actually winning, but just in case it matters: Once the draft is done, we'll hold a vote and let FOFC choose the winner.

The teams:
You will draft a "team" of performers. The idea is to assemble the best possible roster, using your keen sense of humor as well as your crafty drafting skills. Trades are allowed, as long as they don't slow down the action (the idea is to keep things moving as quickly as possible).

Your team will consist of ten funny people, at the following positions:
- Four standup comedians
- Two sketch comedy actors
- Two movie actors
- One sitcom actor
- One variety and/or talk show personality

In addition, at least two members of your team must be female.

It is up to you to decide which position to slot someone in. For example, you can choose Bob Saget as a sitcom actor or a standup comedian. You don't even need to be technically correct -- if you want to draft Carrot Top as a movie actor, go ahead -- but expect to be mocked by observers and penalized by the voters for it.

Any performer may only be selected once. So if someone has picked Dana Carvey as a sketch actor, you can't choose him as a movie actor no matter how much you enjoyed "Master of Disguise".

Edit: You can pick any real person, living or dead. Your choices should be based on the person's body of work, not just right now.

Edit: You are drafting individuals only. If you want to choose a duo or a troupe, you're welcome to -- but you must choose each memeber individually, and others can use their picks to take the remaining members at any time.

Edit: The people you pick for the actor categories do not necessarily have to be comedians or even comedy specialists. If you think all of Arnold Schwarzenegger's comedies were hilarious, go ahead and take him. But be aware that others might not agree.

A few notes:
The draft is open to everyone -- observers are welcome. Discussion of picks is encouraged.

In general, it's considered very poor form to suggest picks during the draft -- the equivalent of being the guy who doesn't play poker but sits at the rail and shouts out to get attention. However, it will happen. If you're the sort of person who thinks you'd be really, really bothered by this, do yourself a favor and don't play.

A final note:
If the idea of doing a just-for-fun draft strikes as you as stupid and/or pathetic, but you're the type of person who likes to post about text sims on an internet forum... well, you may want to give this a miss until your sense of irony develops a little more.

[Mustang]

PM sent...

Did you know... the only comedy acts I've paid actual money to see are - Carrot Top, Dennis Miller and Pauly Shore...

I sense a mocking coming...

[oliegirl]

I'll give it a shot...never done anything like this before so be patient if I have stupid questions please :)

[Barkeep49]

PM will be sent shortly and a clarification.

Some actors could fit more than 1 category. For instance, if I so desired, could I use Eddie Murphy in either the movie or sketch comedy category?

[DeToxRox]

PM will be sent shortly and a clarification.

Some actors could fit more than 1 category. For instance, if I so desired, could I use Eddie Murphy in either the movie or sketch comedy category?

Only if its Eddie Murphy: Movie Star post 1995.

[Maple Leafs]

Some actors could fit more than 1 category. For instance, if I so desired, could I use Eddie Murphy in either the movie or sketch comedy category?
Yes, but only one, and you must declare it when you make the pick.

[Mustang]

Ellen Degeneres is the Rob Mackowiak of this draft....

[ntndeacon]

sent my PM in too. this sounds fun.

[Wasabiak]

pm sent

[Raiders Army]

PMSed

[Desmond]

PM Sent.

[Ben E Lou]

In general, it's considered very poor form to suggest picks during the draft -- the equivalent of being the guy who doesn't play poker but sits at the rail and shouts out to get attention. However, it will happen. If you're the sort of person who thinks you'd be really, really bothered by this, do yourself a favor and don't play.Addendum: and if someone DOES suggest picks during the draft, don't PM, IM, e-mail, send me reported posts, call, use papyrus, snail-mail, smoke signals, text messages, courier, Pony Express, Fed-Ex, or use ANY other communication mode to ask for that person's head on a tray. I don't want to hear it. (Yes, someone went ballistic PM'ing, reporting posts, and even IM'ing me when someone suggested picks in one of these in the past. :rolleyes: )

[stevew]

I think someone said that Wig was trying to destroy the video game draft, IIRC.

[Ben E Lou]

I think someone said that Wig was trying to destroy the video game draft, IIRC.It was either video game or cartoon character. I'm not sure which one.

[Maple Leafs]

Addendum: and if someone DOES suggest picks during the draft, don't PM, IM, e-mail, send me reported posts, call, use papyrus, snail-mail, smoke signals, text messages, courier, Pony Express, Fed-Ex, or use ANY other communication mode to ask for that person's head on a tray. I don't want to hear it. (Yes, someone went ballistic PM'ing, reporting posts, and even IM'ing me when someone suggested picks in one of these in the past. :rolleyes: )
Or else he'll shoot you.

[cuervo72]

I'm not going to sign up...but do dead guys count?

[Maple Leafs]

Any individual is eligible, dead or alive, based on their body of work.

I have about 20 people who've expressed an interest. I will give until noon today (EST) to sign up, and then I'll draw names and we'll get started.

[Maple Leafs]

Could someone (anyone, doesn't have to be a participant) please visit http://random.org/sform.html and generate a sequence from 1 to 10 and post it here?

Thanks.

[stevew]

4
1
8
6
7
5
10
3
9
2

[Maple Leafs]

Thanks Steve.

The participants (selected from everyone who expressed interest) and draft order (based on order of signup) are as follows:
4 Maple Leafs
1 DeToxRoxDVHStyle
8 vtbub
6 sabotai
7 kcchief19
5 oliegirl
10 Swaggs
3 Schmidty
9 albionmoonlight
2 sachmo71

In other words:

1 DeToxRoxDVHStyle
2 sachmo71
3 Schmidty
4 Maple Leafs
5 oliegirl
6 sabotai
7 kcchief19
8 vtbub
9 albionmoonlight
10 Swaggs


Remember, we want to move quickly. If you are on the list but don't think you'll be around often and don't want to send your choices to someone else so they can pick for you, please let us know and we'll replace you with one of the (many) other folks who didn't get to play.

If you wanted to play but weren't selected, we may still ask you to step in for someone who has either changed their mind or who stops playing.

[kcchief19]

I might be interested in moving up a couple of notches if the person I want is available. I'd be willing to swap picks later in the draft.

[Maple Leafs]

The draft has begun.

There will be no time limit today, since it will take some time for people to realize they're picking. Once we get settled we'll add a time limit of some sort.

I can't stress this enough -- please send your picks in advance if you won't be around. You can send them to me, or to someone else who's pick isn't close to yours, or get someone else to choose for you. Please don't make everyone else wait all day just so you can announce your pick yourself. If you are consistently causing delays and not sending in picks, you may be removed.

Please re-read the rules at the top of the thread to make sure you're clear. I've added three rules based on questions I recieved.

Finally, when announcing your pick, remember to mention the position you're taking the person for.

1.1 DeToxRoxDVHStyle is on the clock!

[DeToxRox]

We select Stand Up Comedian/God George Carlin #1

[Maple Leafs]

He was #1 on my board. Good pick.

[Crapshoot]

Boo!!!!!!!!!! :D

[sabotai]

Not #1 on my board. :p

[Radii]

I also would not have taken him first, but I can't find any major fault with Carlin goign #1.

[timmynausea]

I'd say it was certainly a solid pick. I'm interested to see how the rest of the draft goes.

[Maple Leafs]

I think Carlin has to be #1 or #2 on any board -- there are really only two guys at the very top of the all-time list, and I'm assuming the other one goes next. But maybe I'm wrong...

[Crapshoot]

I think Carlin has to be #1 or #2 on any board -- there are really only two guys at the very top of the all-time list, and I'm assuming the other one goes next. But maybe I'm wrong...

You thinking Pryor, or what ? I'm somewhat curious.

[sachmo71]

#2 pick is Steve Martin as a stand-up comedian.

I remember listening to my sister's albums of him when I was a kid. His goofy comedy was a big influence on me, and his later work (Planes, Trains, and Automobiles, Father of the Bride, Parenthood) stands up well today. Definately my all-time favorite.

[Radii]

I think Carlin has to be #1 or #2 on any board -- there are really only two guys at the very top of the all-time list, and I'm assuming the other one goes next. But maybe I'm wrong...


There was a clear cut #1 in my mind, and it wasn't Carlin, but there were 6 guys I could see going in the first 3 that wouldn't suprise me at all in pretty much any order.

[Radii]

dola, and steve martin wasn't one of them! ;) i don't really like him very much though personally, curious to see what others think there.

[timmynausea]

Steve Martin was hilarious as a stand up comedian. I don't like a lot of his movies, but I like the pick.

[Bearcat729]

I think Carlin has to be #1 or #2 on any board -- there are really only two guys at the very top of the all-time list, and I'm assuming the other one goes next. But maybe I'm wrong...



I'm a big Carlin fan but Pryor, Hicks and Kinnison are all above him on my list.


And I think Martin would have been a better choice in the sketch actor or just actor positions rather than stand up.

[sabotai]

I think Carlin has to be #1 or #2 on any board -- there are really only two guys at the very top of the all-time list, and I'm assuming the other one goes next. But maybe I'm wrong...
#1 or #2 if we were limiting it to just Stand Up, which we're not. ;)

[Schmidty]

Jerry Seinfeld - Sitcom Actor

[jeff061]

There's a couple others I put above Carlin as well, but you need to play to the crowd to win, so Carlin was a good choice. I bet you could get away with picking Martin in the second round.

Good pick by Schmidty I think, everyone's head has been in standup.

[Maple Leafs]

With our 5000th post, and our first overall pick, the Maple Leafs are pleased to select:

Richard Pryor, standup

[Radii]

Seinfeld and Carlin were two of the top 6 I mentioned above, good pick Schmidty.

[Radii]

I'm pretty sure I know who Oliegirl wants but we threw around a few names so I'm not 100% sure. She should be back within 30 minutes though, probably less than that.

[Maple Leafs]

#1 or #2 if we were limiting it to just Stand Up, which we're not. ;)
Very true. My #3 was a non-standup, I wonder if you and I are on the same page.

Good pick by Schmidty I think, everyone's head has been in standup.
True, although the rules do put extra weight on the standup side (intentionally, since I think it's the purest form of comedy).

That said, I like the pick by Schmidty. I think sitcom is going to be a tough category to fill, and he gets a franchise player there. Not as sold on Martin, although he's still a solid first rounder.

[oliegirl]

For our first pick, we take Robin Williams for Stand Up.

[Radii]

My #1 overall is still out there, I guess that says something about my sense of humor huh? :)

[Ramzavail]

For our first pick, we take Robin Williams for Stand Up.

The Andre Ware pick of the draft.

[Maple Leafs]

Williams is a solid pick. What's interesting about both he and Steve Martin is that they could have gone in other categories -- both would be very strong movie picks, and Williams could be sitcom too. It will be interesting to see how it plays out in terms of which positions end up being hardest to fill.

[timmynausea]

The Andre Ware pick of the draft.

I actually thought about making that comparison. I'm not a Robin Williams fan.

[sabotai]

For my first round pick, I will go with Bill Hicks Stand Up Comedian

[Schmidty]

I think people are way too rough on Robin Williams. He can be annoying, but he has his moments where he can be brilliant. I think it's just kind of fashionable to hate him.

[Maple Leafs]

Hicks is an interesting pick. Nowhere near as mainstream as the others, but just on ability he definitely belongs.

[Ramzavail]

I think people are way too rough on Robin Williams. He can be annoying, but he has his moments where he can be brilliant. I think it's just kind of fashionable to hate him.

I don't hate him (although he sweats like a pig on stage), I just think he was taken way way too high, ie. Andre Ware

Edit: Also, his best work has been in movies especially in non-comedy roles.

[Schmidty]

Edit: Also, his best work has been in movies especially in non-comedy roles.

I agree. He was amazing in "One Hour Photo" in particular.

[kcchief19]

Williams is a solid pick. What's interesting about both he and Steve Martin is that they could have gone in other categories -- both would be very strong movie picks, and Williams could be sitcom too. It will be interesting to see how it plays out in terms of which positions end up being hardest to fill.That's why I stunned to see Schmidty take Seinfeld as a Sitcom Actor. Easily one of the five greatest standup guys of all-time.

Carlin was an obvious choice, but to me he fits into a category of comedians -- Richard Pryor is in that group to, along with two others I expect to be selected at some point -- that rely too much on shock value and breaking tabboos for the humor. I'll admit I favor comedians who work a bit cleaner, although I'm sure I'll end up with one or two comedians who know how to drop a good f-bomb.

[oliegirl]

Edit: Also, his best work has been in movies especially in non-comedy roles.


I agree, though as a comedian, I think he is a genius and he is definitely my favorite comedian :)

[Maple Leafs]

That's why I stunned to see Schmidty take Seinfeld as a Sitcom Actor. Easily one of the five greatest standup guys of all-time.

Carlin was an obvious choice, but to me he fits into a category of comedians -- Richard Pryor is in that group to, along with two others I expect to be selected at some point -- that rely too much on shock value and breaking tabboos for the humor. I'll admit I favor comedians who work a bit cleaner, although I'm sure I'll end up with one or two comedians who know how to drop a good f-bomb.
See, I'd strongly disagree here. Seinfeld is a good comedian who had a great sitcom. Sure, he helped pioneer the observational humor form of standup, but even his best stuff is just sort... good. He's never been milk-out-the-nose, drive-off-the-road funny like others. I've actually argued that based on the fame from his show, he's actually one of the most over-rated standup comedians of all time.

But as a sitcom star, he's a great pick.

[Schmidty]

That's why I stunned to see Schmidty take Seinfeld as a Sitcom Actor. Easily one of the five greatest standup guys of all-time.

Although I can see where you're coming from, I think the majority of people know him from his sitcom. I, for one, don't find his stand-up nearly as funny as his show.

We'll see how it works out. I have a lot of stand-up guys in mind.

[Ramzavail]

I'm a huge Seinfeld fan both sitcom and standup, so I'm bias, but lets be honest, he's great pick no matter where you pick him however you only get one sitcom pick (I think thats right) and he's the Babe Ruth of the field.

Edit: Wishes he was in this draft now :p

[albionmoonlight]

With three picks to go, I feel really good about who is left on the board.

[kcchief19]

The commissioner will soon be stepping to the podium to announce our first trade.

kcchief is sending his first round pick and 10th round to Maple Leafs for his second round pick and sixth round pick. Discuss.

[sabotai]

I'm a huge Seinfeld fan both sitcom and standup, so I'm bias, but lets be honest, he's great pick no matter where you pick him however you only get one sitcom pick (I think thats right) and he's the Babe Ruth of the field.
That's what I was thinking, and why I had him #1 on my board for sitcom actor. He's much more valuable there than in stand up. There are lots of great stand up comedians to choose from, but the crowd is thin for truely great sitcom stars.

[timmynausea]

See, I'd strongly disagree here. Seinfeld is a good comedian who had a great sitcom. Sure, he helped pioneer the observational humor form of standup, but even his best stuff is just sort... good. He's never been milk-out-the-nose, drive-off-the-road funny like others. I've actually argued that based on the fame from his show, he's actually one of the most over-rated standup comedians of all time.

But as a sitcom star, he's a great pick.


That's pretty much exactly what I was thinking.

[Maple Leafs]

Trade to announce:

Team kcchief trades picks 1.7 and 10.7 to Team Maple Leafs for picks 2.7 and 6.7.

[Karlifornia]

Hicks was taken too early. No doubt that he was funny enough to be a first-rounder, but he would probably still be on the board in the second or third round.. Just my 2 cents.....

[Crapshoot]

eh - I think Cheers was better than Seinfeld, so I would have gone bold with Ted Danson in round 2 or 3 as my sitcom pick.

[sabotai]

Hicks was taken too early. No doubt that he was funny enough to be a first-rounder, but he would probably still be on the board in the second or third round.. Just my 2 cents.....
I was going to let him go to round 2, but someone mentioned him in a post so figured I should grab him now.

[Ramzavail]

Hicks was taken too early. No doubt that he was funny enough to be a first-rounder, but he would probably still be on the board in the second or third round.. Just my 2 cents.....

I agree, I mean pshh, I've never even heard him on XM Comedy.

Great trade for MapleLeaf, I just hope he's looking at who I am thinking about and then, he's the steal of the draft.

[sabotai]

Can people PLEASE stop mentioning possible picks?

[albionmoonlight]

Yeah--there were two guys who could have gone #1, IMO, and one of them is still on the board.

[Maple Leafs]

I'm not sure I have a good enough feel for this draft to know whether moving up is a good choice. It's very possible I just traded up to get a guy who would have been there for me in the second round. That said, I'm a believer in value-based drafting.

While there are some big names still available who would make excellent choices, I think there's only category in this draft that has a clear-cut, no-questions-asked leader. Ask a comedian for the name of the greatest standup performer or sitcom actor ever and they'll argue all night. But in this category, there's no debate.

With pick 1.7, the Maple Leafs take talkshow host Johnny Carson.

[Ramzavail]

Good pick and high value.

[vtbub]

U poopyhead Sean.

With the 8th pick, vtbub takes Bob Hope at standup

[Ramzavail]

U poopyhead Sean.

With the 8th pick, vtbub takes <b>Bob Hope</b>

what position?

[Bearcat729]

I agree, I mean pshh, I've never even heard him on XM Comedy.

Great trade for MapleLeaf, I just hope he's looking at who I am thinking about and then, he's the steal of the draft.


Then your missing one of the greats. I agree that Hicks would have been around in a later round, but he is more than deserving of being taken when he was.

[Radii]

My #1 is still out there.

[albionmoonlight]

With the 9th pick, I take Movie Actor Charlie Chaplin.

[Ramzavail]

Then your missing one of the greats. I agree that Hicks would have been around in a later round, but he is more than deserving of being taken when he was.

I've heard of him, but I know he's been dead for a while and I'm not saying that XM is the end all know all of comedy, but I listen to the station an hour a day and have never heard him once.

[vtbub]

what position?
Standup. His USO stuff was better then his later TV Specials, but he was funny at whatever he did.

[Ramzavail]

Standup. His USO stuff was better then his later TV Specials, but he was funny at whatever he did.

Wow, thats easily the wrong choice.

The clear cut choice, I thought would be movie actor.

[sachmo71]

I would have no problem taking Robin Williams at 2 as a stand-up as well. I almost went for another person, but I never really got into him. I've decided that this is all going to be my personal preference, and damn the masses! :)

[vtbub]

Wow, thats easily the wrong choice.

The clear cut choice, I thought would be movie actor.
I'm not sure there really is a clear cut choice for Hope. I went with what I thought most people would remember him for.

[sabotai]

I can't think of any Bob Hope movies. Doubt I've ever seen one he's been in.

[TazFTW]

I can't think of any Bob Hope movies. Doubt I've ever seen one he's been in.The 'Road to (insert place here)<INSERT here place>' films.

Example. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032993/

[ntndeacon]

Charlie Chaplin was an inspired pick in my opinion.

[ntndeacon]

I can't think of any Bob Hope movies. Doubt I've ever seen one he's been in.

Paleface is pretty funny too.

[sabotai]

I watch a lot of movies from the 40's... (/sarcasm)

[Maple Leafs]

Hope is a very good pick.

Chaplin... wow, he never even occurred to me, but it's a very strong pick. "Inspired" is actually a good description, agreed here.

As we hit the end of the day, remember to send in advance picks. I don't pick again until round three, so I'm a good person to send your picks to -- I can't steal them for a while yet.

[albionmoonlight]

Thanks for the kind words about Chaplin. I was amazed that he fell to #9. I would have probably taken him at #1 overall.

[jeff061]

Hicks is my #1 guy over Carlin, I think I would of taken him in the late 1st or 2nd.

[jeff061]

Dola, he's the kind of guy you'll get 1st place votes for even if the rest of your lineup sucks ;).

[Schmidty]

Thanks for the kind words about Chaplin. I was amazed that he fell to #9. I would have probably taken him at #1 overall.

I think it's more about recognition as opposed to actually being funny. I've watched a few of his films on AMC, and they really weren't that funny. They were probably hilarious back 80 years ago, but I don't think they've aged well.

[Ramzavail]

I think it's more about recognition as opposed to actually being funny. I've watched a few of his films on AMC, and they really weren't that funny. They were probably hilarious back 80 years ago, but I don't think they've aged well.

He's the pong paddle of video games.

[Barkeep49]

Johnny Carson was my clear #1 had I been in this because of how far above everyone else he is. Charlie Chaplin was on my board as a sleeper. My #1 standup is still out there though. I was hoping he'd slip to round 2 ro 3, so I'll be interested to see when he gets taken.

[Swaggs]

Carson was my target at #10. He was far above the rest of the class in his category.

[Swaggs]

Okay, with pick 1.10 I will take Bill Cosby (standup).

He could fit in at a number of spots, notably at the sitcom or movie position, but his best work has been in clean standup. He will anchor the team.

[ntndeacon]

As good as Carson is. There is at least one other in that category that is in the same league. That person will be a good value for someone.

[ntndeacon]

Dola

I figured Cosby had to come off the board soon. Good Pick.

[Swaggs]

Alright, this is tough since I do not have another pick for 18 more spots and I have my eye on three people, but with pick 2.1 I will take Rodney Dangerfield (standup).

Legendary standup comedian with a few notable movie roles. He gets some respect here.

(edited to bold the pick)

[Ramzavail]

Alright, this is tough since I do not have another pick for 18 more spots and I have my eye on three people, but with pick 2.1 I will take Rodney Dangerfield (standup).

Legendary standup comedian with a few notable movie roles. He gets some respect here.

(edited to bold the pick)

About time.

[kcchief19]

Okay, with pick 1.10 I will take Bill Cosby (standup).

He could fit in at a number of spots, notably at the sitcom or movie position, but his best work has been in clean standup. He will anchor the team.I can't believe he slipped this far. If I hadn't traded my first rounder, I probably would have taken him.

[Barkeep49]

I think Cosby in standup is huge mistake. He is a sitcom pioneer and as good as his standup is, he is a clossal in that field. In terms of relative worth, as much as I love his standup (own all standup that's on CD) I would have slotted him in sitcom.

[ntndeacon]

Oh I think Stand up is the better place for Cosby. He would have also been good in sitcoms, but I think his stand up makes him a more than worthwhile first rounder.

[sabotai]

I was going to take Cosby for sitcom if he was still there for my next pick.

[vtbub]

I'd take Cosby at standup. The pilot for The Cosby Show was based on the stand-up concert "Bill Cosby Himself"

[timmynausea]

Cosby would be stand up for me, also, and it was a good pick.

[Barkeep49]

See I don't disagree that standup is Cosby's best art. But looking at the relative fields I feel he is a strong pick in sitcom than standup given the overwhelming strength of standup.

[Maple Leafs]

When I knew I'd be picking at 1.4, I went in with a top four (in order) of: Carlin, Pryor, Carson, Cosby.

I probably would have gone with Cosby at sitcom, since I think that's going to be a tougher spot to fill. Still, hard to argue either way.

[Maple Leafs]

albionmoonlight was kind enough to send in his pick:

At 2.2, albionmoonlight takes Lucille Ball (sitcom).

Personally, I love this pick. Albion is running a risk of going too old school for the voters, but he has two legends achoring his team right now.

[Maple Leafs]

As good as Carson is. There is at least one other in that category that is in the same league. That person will be a good value for someone.
Hold that thought until the person is taken -- I'd like to hear who it is once they're off the board. I can think of two -- one who'd I strongly disagree on, and one who you could make an argument for.

[vtbub]

<b>2.3 Chris Rock-Standup

[Barkeep49]

Lucille Ball. There's someone who wasn't on my draft board, but this is a wonderful pick. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a better comedian who is a woman and she is arguably the best pick in the sitcom genre. I just love what albion is doing early on here.

[Maple Leafs]

I love the Chris Rock pick. You open yourself to the old-timers who don't want to see any current generation guys go high, but I really think Rock has been the best standup comedian in the business for at least five years. He's this generation's Pryor. He doesn't have the longevity to be a first round lock, but this is a good spot to take him.

kcchief is up, and has two of the next four picks. Should be interesting to see what he does with it.

[timmynausea]

Chris Rock is a good pick. His newest special wasn't as good, but bring the pain and bigger and blacker were both great.

[kcchief19]

albionmoonlight was kind enough to send in his pick:

At 2.2, albionmoonlight takes Lucille Ball (sitcom).

Personally, I love this pick. Albion is running a risk of going too old school for the voters, but he has two legends achoring his team right now.I was hoping she might slip until the third round. Valuable to me because she's a comedy sitcom legend AND a woman, fulfilling another crucial criteria.

This is a homer pick, but I have to do it because this will be no fun if somebody else gets him.

David Letterman - Variety/Talk Show

My idol. My entire sense of humor was formed in the summer of 1980 watching the morning show. I had to do it.

[sabotai]

Dave Chapelle Sketch Comedy.

Chapelle's Show is one of Comedy Centrals biggest hits and Chapelle showed off just how funny he is at sketch comedy. In just two seasons, the show spawned more catch phrases than I can count.

[Radii]

Bill Cosby for standup was my #1, and to me it was the first person who popped into my head when I saw this. I mentioned earlier that I had a top 6 that I thought were pretty clearly head and shoulders above the rest of the field. Cosby, Carlin, Robin Williams, Jerry Seinfeld, Richard Pryor, and Johnny Carson, not necessarily in that order, though I would have quickly selected Bill Cosby #1.


Chaplain and Ball are great picks IMO, Lucille Ball had not crossed my mind at all.

[Maple Leafs]

My idol. My entire sense of humor was formed in the summer of 1980 watching the morning show. I had to do it.
No kidding. Staying up to watch Late Night on a Friday when I was a kid was the highlight of a week, and probably shaped my sense of humor more than anything I can remember.

That's why I get sad when I watch him now. He's still good, but the spark is gone. He's been mailing it in for the better part of a decade. I really think that losing the Tonight Show drained something out of him that hasn't come back.

[Radii]

Team Oliegirl selects Eddie Murphy for Movies

[Swaggs]

I had a tough time passing up my personal favorite for value with my first two picks. Hopefully that person will be there when I pick again.

[Maple Leafs]

I like the Murphy pick. Tough call as to where to put him, but I think movies will end up being the right call.

Reminder: kcchief has my second round pick, so he's on the clock.

[oliegirl]

I like the Murphy pick. Tough call as to where to put him, but I think movies will end up being the right call.

Reminder: kcchief has my second round pick, so he's on the clock.


I struggled with this one, there are 2 or 3 left out there that I really wanted to take, but in the end I decided Murphy was the best pick...thanks for the props :)

[kcchief19]

Sorry ... I left work and got home and had to track down a furnace guy to come in tomorrow and fix my blower motor. Thank goodness it's only going to be in the 30s tonight.

This pick is painful ...

Jay Leno, standup

Two reasons:

Before he became evil by selling his soul to Helen Kushnick and stabbed in the back the man who gave him his break when Carson didn't like him, Leno was the best standup in the biz. During the 1980s, I don't think there was a better standup. He still has moments, they are just too few and far between. But during the 1980s, he was one of maybe five people for whom I would sneak past my bedtime and stay up late to watch Dave on a school night.

Reason No. 2: I figure the variety/talk show host category will get thin with Carson, Letterman and Leno off the board. If I have him at standup, somebody else will need to dip a bit deeper in the pool for a talk show guy.

[kcchief19]

I struggled with this one, there are 2 or 3 left out there that I really wanted to take, but in the end I decided Murphy was the best pick...thanks for the props :)I double prop. I think Eddie Murphy is well on his way to being the next Bill Cosby. Their careers have many parallels, although Murphy has been more successful on film than Cosby was. But when the rose was off Cosby in the '80s, he reinvented himself as a family comedy star -- a path that Murphy is following now. It's just a matter of time before Eddie Murphy ends up with a top-rated sitcom on NBC Must See TV Thursday Night.

[kcchief19]

BTW, my next few picks will be really wacky unless somebody beats me to them. :)

[Schmidty]

Groucho Marx - Movies.

This one was easy.

[timmynausea]

I like Groucho, and I wouldn't have thought of that one. Good pick.

[Maple Leafs]

Before he became evil by selling his soul to Helen Kushnick and stabbed in the back the man who gave him his break when Carson didn't like him, Leno was the best standup in the biz. During the 1980s, I don't think there was a better standup. He still has moments, they are just too few and far between. But during the 1980s, he was one of maybe five people for whom I would sneak past my bedtime and stay up late to watch Dave on a school night.

I pretty much agree with this 100%. I had Leno on my list, also as a standup instead of talkshow host. People forget how good he was back then. He's good now too -- still among the hardest working standup comedian in the business.

The only downside to the pick is that some people have such a negative reaction to him (usually because they're big Letterman fans) that you may lose votes on name value alone.

[Swaggs]

Without giving much away, I am interested to see how the sketch comedians fill out. I think a lot of them will come from one show in particular, but there are a lot of very successful comedians that have participated in short-lived sketch shows.

[Maple Leafs]

Without giving much away, I am interested to see how the sketch comedians fill out. I think a lot of them will come from one show in particular, but there are a lot of very successful comedians that have participated in short-lived sketch shows.
To me, the sketch category feels like the centers in an FOF draft. So much talent to choose from that you feel like you can get somebody late -- but the top guys are so good it's hard to resist.

[sachmo71]

Ok, at 2.9 I will take another stand-up comedian...Lenny Bruce.

Lived hard, but he influenced everyone you love today.

[Schmidty]

Ok, at 2.9 I will take another stand-up comedian...Lenny Bruce.

Lived hard, but he influenced everyone you love today.

Damn you.

[DeToxRox]

At 2.10 I take Sam Kinison (Stand Up)

[DeToxRox]

At 3.1 I take John Belushi (Sketch)

[oliegirl]

At 3.1 I take John Belushi (Sketch)


Damn You detox!!! I was going to take him, but in movies...

[DeToxRox]

Damn You detox!!! I was going to take him, but in movies...

I don't think anyone on SNL will ever top what he did on there.

[Radii]

I don't think anyone on SNL will ever top what he did on there.

I was actually making the case to take Eddie Murphy in sketch with Oliegirl's last pick.

[DeToxRox]

I was actually making the case to take Eddie Murphy in sketch with Oliegirl's last pick.

Well if anyone is close to Belushi it's Eddie.

I agree, he's better on SNL then in Movies.

[sachmo71]

at 3.2, I'll take one of my all-time favorites, Bill Murray. I'll stick him in as a movie actor.


From Stripes to The Royal Tannenbaums, he is a versatile comedian who has gotten better with age, IMO. Welcome to my team, Bill.

[Schmidty]

Woody Allen - Stand-up


I know, I know, he's mostly known for his movies, but he was a very popular stand-up in the 1960's. Also, I need to start thinking about filling my stand-ups with quality players.

[Maple Leafs]

I may regret not taking a sitcom or movie pick here, but this guy was my favorite comedian as a kid and I don't think he'd be around in the next round. Not every day you can pick a standup legend who also has an Oscar.

Steven Wright, standup

[timmynausea]

Steven Wright is funny. Bill Murray was a steal at 3.2, though. He is better than several first round picks in my opinion.

[Radii]

Oliegirl gave me her list since she's unavailable this morning. She selects Gilda Radner for sketch comedy with pick 3.5.


edit: bolded the pick.

[albionmoonlight]

Oliegirl gave me her list since she's unavailable this morning. She selects Gilda Radner for sketch comedy with pick 3.5.


edit: bolded the pick.
There are three women who, IMO, are head and shoulders above the rest for this draft. I got one. And Oliegirl just got another. Great pick in what will be a need catagory for a lot of teams.

[Maple Leafs]

While we all wait for sab to make his pick, now would be a good time to send in some advance picks if you know you won't be around. You don't have to send them to me if I pick near you -- anyone else is fine too.

[kcchief19]

I may regret not taking a sitcom or movie pick here, but this guy was my favorite comedian as a kid and I don't think he'd be around in the next round. Not every day you can pick a standup legend who also has an Oscar.

Steven Wright, standupDo you have the other half of this amulet? I have four comedy albums in my collection, and his "I Have a Pony" is one of the four. Seinfeld and Cosby are two others, and I can't mention the fourth because I don't believe he's been selected yet.

Wright was off-kilter in a way that cracked me up. I used one of his jokes just yesterday when Mrs. kcchief19 asked me if I slept OK and I said, "No, I made a few mistakes."

[sabotai]

Conan O'Brian Talk Show

[Maple Leafs]

kcchief sent in his pick. He gets a cookie.

He chooses Ricky Gervais, sitcom

[vtbub]

<b>Carol Burnett</b> Variety

[rkmsuf]

Pauley Shore is a steal now. Can't believe he's lasted this long.

[oliegirl]

Good Pick vtbub! I hadn't thought of her...

[sabotai]

Ugh, I was hoping Burnett would fall to the next round. Good pick.

[Maple Leafs]

For page four:

The picks as of 3.8, with albion on the clock.

The rosters:
DeToxRoxDVHStyle
1.1 George Carlin (standup)
2.10 Sam Kinison (standup)
3.1 John Belushi (sketch)

sachmo71
1.2 Steve Martin (standup)
2.9 Lenny Bruce (standup)
3.2 Bill Murray (movies)

Schmidty
1.3 Jerry Seinfeld (sitcom)
2.8 Groucho Marx (movies)
3.3 Woddy Allen (movies)

Maple Leafs
1.4 Richard Pryor (standup)
1.7 Johnny Carson (talk show/variety) via trade
3.4 Steven Wright (standup)

oliegirl
1.5 Robin Williams (standup)
2.6 Eddie Murphy (movies)
3.5 Gilda Radner (sketch)

sabotai
1.6 Bill Hicks (standup)
2.5 Dave Chapelle (sketch)
3.6 Conan O'Brien (talk show/variety)

kcchief19
2.4 David Letterman (talk show/variety)
2.7 Jay Leno (standup) via trade
3.7 Ricky Gervais (sitcom)

vtbub
1.8 Bob Hope (standup)
2.3 Chris Rock (standup)
3.6 Carol Burnett (talk show/variety)

albionmoonlight
1.9 Charlie Chaplin (movie)
2.2 Lucille Ball (sitcom)

Swaggs
1.10 Bill Cosby (standup)
2.1 Rodney Dangerfield (standup)

[Bearcat729]

<b>Carol Burnett</b> Variety


I would have went for two other people on her show, but it's not a bad choice.

[albionmoonlight]

Burnett was the other of the "top three" women to whom I was referring.

For my next pick, I go with John Cleese (sketch comedy).

[sachmo71]

kcchief sent in his pick. He gets a cookie.

He chooses Ricky Gervais, sitcom


oooh...nice pick.

[Swaggs]

Is it my pick(s)? Between the trades, I'm a hair confused... :)

[albionmoonlight]

Is it my pick(s)? Between the trades, I'm a hair confused... :)
3.10 is up, and I am pretty sure that that is you.

[Swaggs]

3.10 is up, and I am pretty sure that that is you.

Okay... looks like it to me, too.

My next pick is kind of a risk, but I am such a big fan of his that it would upset me to see him on another team.

With pick 3.10, I pick Bob Newhart. I'm tempted to use him in standup, but I think I will stick him in the sitcom role for now.

His standup album beat out Elvis's album and the Sound of Music soundtrack in sales upon its release and won a Grammy. He had two successful sitcoms with the Bob Newhart Show (that lasted 6 years) and Newhart (that lasted 9 years). He is now an occassional cast member on Desperate Housewives.

Another clean comedian and one of my favorites. I considered taking him early, but thought that he might be somewhat forgotten and would last. He is one of my clear cut favorite entertainers.

[albionmoonlight]

Okay... looks like it to me, too.

My next pick is kind of a risk, but I am such a big fan of his that it would upset me to see him on another team.

With pick 3.10, I pick Bob Newhart. I'm tempted to use him in standup, but I think I will stick him in the sitcom role for now.

His standup album beat out Elvis's album and the Sound of Music soundtrack in sales upon its release and won a Grammy. He had two successful sitcoms with the Bob Newhart Show (that lasted 6 years) and Newhart (that lasted 9 years). He is now an occassional cast member on Desperate Housewives.

Another clean comedian and one of my favorites. I considered taking him early, but thought that he might be somewhat forgotten and would last. He is one of my clear cut favorite entertainers.
Awesome value pick. I totally forgot about him. He should have gone in the first two rounds.

[vtbub]

Well done Charlie.

[sabotai]

Just FYI, in case you forgot, but I think you have the 4.1 pick as well (unless I missed a trade)

[Swaggs]

Just FYI, in case you forgot, but I think you have the 4.1 pick as well (unless I missed a trade)

I'm on it. :)

Another potential risk, as I should probably start looking to fill the female roles, but I am going to try to hit a different demographic with this pick.

With selection 4.1, I will take Benny Hill and use him in the sketch role.

He may not be as popular among the under 30ish crowd, but as a slapstick comedian he ruled for a long, long time and was very popular around the world. His career kind of slowed down as he got older and political correctness came into vogue, but he worked well into his 60s.

Plus, he looked like this :) :

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/29/BennyHill.jpg/200px-BennyHill.jpg

I believe albion is back on the clock.

[Maple Leafs]

Nice run of picks...

The best of the bunch, I think, was Newhart. Not only is the guy hilarious in general, but he achored two of the all-time great sitcoms. Fantastic pick.

I was wondering where Cleese would go. He was a guy I was half hoping would slip further since he was part of a group, but he's a very solid pick here.

Benny Hill isn't a bad choice, although I didn't have him on my list anytime soon. I'm not sold on Gervais, though. I like his work, but he feels like a reach in the third round given some of the other sitcom performers who are still available.

[albionmoonlight]

It kills me that I can't use him in sitcom, but I think that he also works in standup--where he had a lot of success and was a pioneer both in "Blue" Comedy and for every black comedian who came after him. And, because of his sitcom power, there is no way he is lasting until I pick again:

Redd Foxx (standup).

[sabotai]

Damn you albion!! Nice pick.

[albionmoonlight]

I was wondering where Cleese would go. He was a guy I was half hoping would slip further since he was part of a group, but he's a very solid pick here.
I know that I lost some value here because other Monty Python guys will get picked later, and he will look like just one of the Python guys once people vote.

But, in my mind he is the best of the bunch and the most recognizable, so I wanted to make sure that I locked him down.

[Schmidty]

Just as an FYI to Maple Leafs, I selected Woody Allen as a stand-up.

[vtbub]

I would have went for two other people on her show, but it's not a bad choice.There were three solid choices from that show. Since she was the host, I could slide her into my variety slot and take <b>Tim Conway</b> for my sketch pick.

[Maple Leafs]

Just as an FYI to Maple Leafs, I selected Woody Allen as a stand-up.
Thanks... fixed.

kcchief is up.

[albionmoonlight]

There were three solid choices from that show. Since she was the host, I could slide her into my variety slot and take Tim Conway for my sketch pick.
And if you had not taken her, I would have, so you certainly picked the right order.

[sabotai]

*guesses kccheif didn't leave a long enough list to make another pick....*

[Maple Leafs]

*guesses kccheif didn't leave a long enough list to make another pick....*
That's why he only got one cookie.

[kcchief19]

Continuing my streak of off-beat selections ...

Phil Hartman, sketch comedy

Tempted to take him as a sitcom actor for NewsRadio and The Simpsons, but I think his work on SNL is more well known than NewsRadio. Some others I should have probably taken, but again a sentimental choice for me.

I would have taken Bob Newhart next in a heartbeat. I should have taken him on my last pic.

[sabotai]

I sent ML my next pick, but I'm here so here it is.

Roseanne Barr Stand Up

May not be the most popular and I'm not sure if many here are fans of her comedy. In fact, I'm not much of a fan of her's either. This pick is more out of repect for what her stand up career did. It revolutionized female stand up comics. Not to mention, she was named the 9th best stand up ever by Comedy Central.

[sabotai]

Haha, beat you! :D

Phil Hartman was high on my list, but I needed a female and thought Hartman would slip to next round...

[albionmoonlight]

Sab sent his pick, with description:

Roseanne Barr, stand pp

May not be the most popular and I'm not sure if many here are fans of her comedy. In fact, I'm not much of a fan of her's either. This pick is more out of repect for what her stand up career did. It revolutionized female stand up comics. Not to mention, she was named the 9th best stand up ever by Comedy Central.
Rosanne Barr stands to pee-pee?

I knew it! She always seemed a bit mannish.

[sabotai]

Rosanne Barr stands to pee-pee?

I knew it! She always seemed a bit mannish.
Wouldn't surprise me. :)

[Radii]

Oliegirl is once again away, and sabotai picked just in time, as i'm leaving too.

Oliegirl selects Jim Carrey, pairing him with Eddie Murphy in movies, hopefully to become the strongest Movie tandem out there.

[kcchief19]

Excellent pick on on Roseanne. I was wondering how far she would slip. Woman will be tough to come by. I think that Comedy Central list had less than 10 women on it. Again, I also took her instead of Hartman.

I'm stunned Jim Carey fell so far. I wouldn't take him because I'm not a fan, but I projected him as a second rounder.

[Maple Leafs]

OK, here's the deal...

I had Roseanne slotted in for this round (was going to put her in the sitcom spot). I think she'd be a fantastic value here on merit alone, and with two women per team required she's an outright steal.

My backup plan was Phil Hartman. One of the greatest sketch comedians of all time. If that didn't work out, it was going to be Jim Carrey, to get started on the movie category.

I hate you all.

Anyways, now I'm stuck taking someone who I'm actually not a huge fan of. I think she's marginally over-rated as a standup, and to make matters worse I'm going to squeeze her into the movie category instead. On the other hand, she's a very recognizable name with mainstream appeal, has had several movie hits and is a big enough comedy star that she's hosted the Oscars. And I need to draft a broad. So I guess that's OK for round four.

With pick 4.7, I take Whoopi Goldberg (movies)

[sabotai]

I was thinking of Jim Carey, but to be honest, there are a lot of comedies of his style that had pretty good comedy movie careers. If the one I have in mind slips (and no ML, it's he's not on the list I sent you :p), I'll take him soon. Maybe next pick, but I think he's under the radar and could slip a couple of more rounds.

[albionmoonlight]

I don't like Rosanne, but I think that she had to go where she did.

It's interesting trying to balance your personal like for people with their popularity with their "legendary" status.

[kcchief19]

With pick 4.7, I take Whoopi Goldberg (movies)Dear, God.

[sachmo71]

run on goils

[kcchief19]

Seriously ... dear, God.

[kcchief19]

My overall strategy from the very beginning was "Whatever I do, don't end up taking Whoopi Goldberg."

Dear, god. Oh, the humanity.

[sabotai]

My overall strategy from the very beginning was "Whatever I do, don't end up taking Whoopi Goldberg."

Dear, god. Oh, the humanity.
You should be happy. Your strat worked. :D

[Maple Leafs]

My overall strategy from the very beginning was "Whatever I do, don't end up taking Whoopi Goldberg."

My strategy was "since you need to take two women, don't be the one who gets stuck with Paula Poundstone in round eight".

[Schmidty]

Jon Stewart - Talk show/Variety

I figured that I better grab him while I still can.

[sachmo71]

Oy, can I get a ruling?

Can we count the Oscars as a variety show?

[Maple Leafs]

Oy, can I get a ruling?

Can we count the Oscars as a variety show?
You could count the CBS Evening News as a variety show if you wanted to. The voters may not, though.

(But personally, yes, I'd say Oscar hosting duties could count for variety.)

[sabotai]

Oscars as a variety show? That's quite a stretch....if anything, it's a stand up gig. (EDIT: But I'm not runnign this thing, so ML has the word on it. :p )

[Maple Leafs]

Oscars as a variety show? That's quite a stretch....if anything, it's a stand up gig. (EDIT: But I'm not runnign this thing, so ML has the word on it. :p )
I believe that Oscar hosting is eligible for an Emmy in the variety/musical category, so I think it fits.

Again, some voters may not, so you take your chances.

(Edit: Of course, it helps if your pick is more of a singing/dancing host, which I suspect they will be in this case...)

[sachmo71]

I'm going with the commish here...

4.9 Billy Crystal Variety\Talk Show personality


I've been a fan of his since I saw him on Soap. Some of his stuff on Comic Relief was classic, he's a very good actor, and his standup is some of the funniest stuff I've ever seen. If you've ever seen his bit about his family's home movies, you know what I'm talking about. He was also one of my favorite Academy Awards hosts...never afraid to stir up the hollywood crowd.

[sachmo71]

Oscars as a variety show? That's quite a stretch....if anything, it's a stand up gig. (EDIT: But I'm not runnign this thing, so ML has the word on it. :p )


ah, there's singing and dancing, so I'm going for it. They are even in skits on the show, usually. :)

[sabotai]

I thought he was going to take Crystal after he asked that question. Honestly surprised he slipped to the 4th round. Would have also been a great pick for movies.

[sabotai]

ah, there's singing and dancing, so I'm going for it. They are even in skits on the show, usually. :)
I guess it shows that I don't watch the Oscars. :D

[sachmo71]

I thought he was going to take Crystal after he asked that question. Honestly surprised he slipped to the 4th round. Would have also been a great pick for movies.


I have other plans for the movie slot...muhahaha!

[kcchief19]

My strategy was "since you need to take two women, don't be the one who gets stuck with Paula Poundstone in round eight".As long as we're making the decision-making process transparent, I'll admit that I was wondering weight the pros and cons of the next tier of funny women: some are bitchy, some are accussed child molesters, some are alcoholics. I know which two women I want -- one I think will be gone within less than a round, the other will probably drop to where ever I want to take her.

I've just never understood the dearth of women comedians. There are plenty of funny women, but I guess the glass ceiling keeps them down.

[Swaggs]

Roseanne Barr was a very good choice. I really considered her with my last set of picks, but thought that she probably turns as many people off as she attracts. Still, as a standup, I think she is a strong pick.

[DeToxRox]

4.10 - Sarah Silverman (Stand Up)

[DeToxRox]

5.1 Denis Leary (Stand Up)

[Maple Leafs]

Interesting picks.

I never really "got" Silverman, but enough people tell me she's brilliant that I'm willing to admit it's probably just me. Leary is very good -- did anyone not own "no cure for cancer" in college? -- although it always sort of bothered me that many of his fans don't know that he's ripping off Hicks.

Detox now has all four of his standup slots filled... interesting strategy, could pay off nicely.

[DeToxRox]

Interesting picks.

I never really "got" Silverman, but enough people tell me she's brilliant that I'm willing to admit it's probably just me. Leary is very good -- did anyone not own "no cure for cancer" in college? -- although it always sort of bothered me that many of his fans don't know that he's ripping off Hicks.

Detox now has all four of his standup slots filled... interesting strategy, could pay off nicely.

Silverman is just sick. I give her a lot of credit, she is good at ripping at herself especially.

Leary is kind of out of the stand up forefront as of late but his classic material is just that; classic.

[Maple Leafs]

As long as we're making the decision-making process transparent, I'll admit that I was wondering weight the pros and cons of the next tier of funny women: some are bitchy, some are accussed child molesters, some are alcoholics. I know which two women I want -- one I think will be gone within less than a round, the other will probably drop to where ever I want to take her.

I think there are the really good female picks left, although one of those would probably be disputed, along with one oddball pick that I'd love to see made. Given how many spots there are left to fill, I made the panic pick on Goldberg to avoid being stuck.

Edit: And yes, I'm blatantly trying to artifically start a run on the females right now.

[Barkeep49]

Okay... looks like it to me, too.

My next pick is kind of a risk, but I am such a big fan of his that it would upset me to see him on another team.

With pick 3.10, I pick Bob Newhart. I'm tempted to use him in standup, but I think I will stick him in the sitcom role for now.

His standup album beat out Elvis's album and the Sound of Music soundtrack in sales upon its release and won a Grammy. He had two successful sitcoms with the Bob Newhart Show (that lasted 6 years) and Newhart (that lasted 9 years). He is now an occassional cast member on Desperate Housewives.

Another clean comedian and one of my favorites. I considered taking him early, but thought that he might be somewhat forgotten and would last. He is one of my clear cut favorite entertainers.
Newhart was my projected 3rd round pick. I agree he is a top performer at either the standup or sitcome position. Great pick-up I think.

[Radii]

Sarah Silverman is the hottest comedian I know of, so great pick.

[kcchief19]

Sarah Silverman is the hottest comedian I know of, so great pick.If Celebrity Poker Showdown every does a table with her, Sara Rue, Lauren Graham, Maura Tierney and Heather Graham, the lights are going down and the pants are going off.

She's a tad obscure; she's very funny, but every once in a while she gets into some "shock" ethnic comedy that gets her into trouble.

[Swaggs]

If Celebrity Poker Showdown every does a table with her, Sara Rue, Lauren Graham, Maura Tierney and Heather Graham, the lights are going down and the pants are going off.

She's a tad obscure; she's very funny, but every once in a while she gets into some "shock" ethnic comedy that gets her into trouble.

HA?!?! :confused:

[Maple Leafs]

Morning bump... sachmo71 is on the clock. I have no picks from anyone today so please be prepared to make your selections as quickly as possible.

[sachmo71]

I don't know if she'll last...at least among the olds around here, so I'm going to take her now.

At 5.2, I'll take Lily Tomlin, in sketch comedy.

From Laugh In to Flirting with Disaster, Lily Tomlin is a comedic chameleon. She can play anything, and is usually brilliant at in. Glad to have her on the team. :)

[Maple Leafs]

Good pick. I'm assuming you're taking her as a standup?

[sachmo71]

Good pick. I'm assuming you're taking her as a standup?


Sketch comedy. Sorry.

[albionmoonlight]

Post lunch bump.

[oliegirl]

Whose turn is it?

[Schmidty]

I think it's mine, but I need to think a bit more on who to pick. Give me like 15 minutes.

[Schmidty]

Ok, I might suprise a few of you with this pick, but I am going to take who many people credit as the father of standup comedy:

Mark Twain - Standup (monologues)

Twain was highly sought after as a humorous speaker and lecturer. His monologues are said to have been quite similar to modern standup, and that the art form has it's roots in Mr. Twains comedic speeches. In fact, the major comedy award is called "The Mark Twain Prize for American Humor".

I have to actually pat myself on the back with this pick. :)

[Ramzavail]

I think thats the only pat you are going to get around here.

[oliegirl]

Ok, I might suprise a few of you with this pick, but I am going to take who many people credit as the father of standup comedy:

Mark Twain - Standup (monologues)

Twain was highly sought after as a humorous speaker and lecturer. His monologues are said to have been quite similar to modern standup, and that the art form has it's roots in Mr. Twains comedic speeches. In fact, the major comedy award is called "The Mark Twain Prize for American Humor".

I have to actually pat myself on the back with this pick. :)


Interesting pick. Can't say it's someone I would have thought of, or even picked myself, but it could prove valuable in the long run.

[kcchief19]

Interesting idea. I'm not sure what to say. I suppose the only drawback would be that none of his know what his monologues where like. That might not have been that funny, although Hal Holbrook's recreation of them is quite funny.

It does offer up a fine line. Will other people who are predominately writers but "perform" from time to time qualify as standup? I'd hate to drop any names of people that would fit into this category, so I'm hesitant to use a modern example.

[Schmidty]

I think thats the only pat you are going to get around here.

That's ok. I'm happy with the pick. If anyone has read Twain himor, they know that he's f'ing hilarious.

[albionmoonlight]

Ok, I might suprise a few of you with this pick, but I am going to take who many people credit as the father of standup comedy:

Mark Twain - Standup (monologues)

Twain was highly sought after as a humorous speaker and lecturer. His monologues are said to have been quite similar to modern standup, and that the art form has it's roots in Mr. Twains comedic speeches. In fact, the major comedy award is called "The Mark Twain Prize for American Humor".

I have to actually pat myself on the back with this pick. :)
Certainly out of left field. I'll give you props as a fan of the Old School. And I love Twain, personally.

[Maple Leafs]

I have a disturbing lack of Canadians on my squad so far.

Given that, let's go with a guy who could fit in either the sketch or movie category. Since he's been the star of two of the most popular movie franchises of this generation, I'll put him there.

I take Mike Myers, movies.

[Schmidty]

Certainly out of left field. I'll give you props as a fan of the Old School. And I love Twain, personally.

Yeah, I've gone a bit old school on some of my picks. I just wanted to avoid the "look at comedy central's top 100 list and pick the highest rated" thing that I assume a lot of others are doing. I wanted to put some thought into it and pick people that I really like and one's that, preferably, were classic personalities. Making weird picks like this might not get me the win, but I'm having fun doing some research and making my picks. :)

[sabotai]

Nice pick on Myers. I was thinking of taking him this round if the guy I want was picked....one more to go.

[oliegirl]

This is someone I was thinking of taking last round, but decided it would be better to take Jim Carrey...I am glad no one else took her as she fills 2 slots - a master comedienne in sitcom, and fulfills my requirements for female picks.

Team Oliegirl selects Mary Tyler Moore for sitcom.

[sabotai]

Jerry Lewis Movies

[Schmidty]

2 GREAT picks. I was about to take Jerry Lewis, but then decided on Twain. I probably should have waited much later to pick Twain. Oh well.

[albionmoonlight]

Jerry Lewis Movies
I never "got" Jerry Lewis. But, I think that--like Rosanne in this draft--he was a good value pick where he was taken, despite my personal dislike.

[Bad-example]

This was a fun idea. Judging by some of the names not yet selected, I am thinking that one could assemble a very good Isle of Misfit Toys team that could do well in the final standings.

[albionmoonlight]

This was a fun idea. Judging by some of the names not yet selected, I am thinking that one could assemble a very good Isle of Misfit Toys team that could do well in the final standings.
The roster limits do constrain the teams a bit. I keep thinking of really funny people, and then realizing that they are sitcom actors/actresses, a category in which I am already full. And my idea of picking a movie duo failed once Chaplin fell unto my lap and I had to pick him.

[kcchief19]

Speaking of someone I'm sure people will dislike but I think is a great value pick:

Ellen Degeneres, standup

Hit sitcom, emergy talk show, Comedy Central's No. 16 standup of all-time and the No. 2 woman on the list. And I'd have hit a three-way with her and Anne Heche back in the day.

[Bad-example]

The roster limits do constrain the teams a bit. I keep thinking of really funny people, and then realizing that they are sitcom actors/actresses, a category in which I am already full. And my idea of picking a movie duo failed once Chaplin fell unto my lap and I had to pick him.

Good point. Also, with the draft only half completed, my statement was probably premature.

[kcchief19]

The roster limits do constrain the teams a bit. I keep thinking of really funny people, and then realizing that they are sitcom actors/actresses, a category in which I am already full. And my idea of picking a movie duo failed once Chaplin fell unto my lap and I had to pick him.To a certain degree, there are so many possibilities out there that at the end of the day you could certainly still put together a really good team of the people we don't draft. If I had to make one change to the rosters, I would have added another slot for sitcom actor.

[albionmoonlight]

Speaking of someone I'm sure people will dislike but I think is a great value pick:

Ellen Degeneres, standup

Hit sitcom, emergy talk show, Comedy Central's No. 16 standup of all-time and the No. 2 woman on the list. And I'd have hit a three-way with her and Anne Heche back in the day.
You took one of my two upcoming picks. She's funny.

[vtbub]

Am I up?

[Schmidty]

yep

[Swaggs]

Mary Tyler Moore and Ellen were great picks. I had a feeling that kcchief would nab Ellen, since he didn't have a woman yet. I am going to half to reach to get a female now.

[vtbub]

MTM was a great pick.

<b>Ted Knight (Sitcom)</b> was pretty damn funny too.

[Schmidty]

I am going to half to reach to get a female now.

Not really. I have a bunch of really good ones in mind. I think people are limiting themselves to thinking of the standup women. Meh, maybe I'm wrong there though.

By the way, I'm going out to lunch and a movie (Narnia) soon, so I won't likely be around for my next pick. I don't think I can safely PM my pick to any of you guys (no offense ;) ), so if any non-playing observers want to help a brotha out, let me know and I'll PM my picks to you if I haven't left yet.

[Maple Leafs]

Speaking of someone I'm sure people will dislike but I think is a great value pick:

Ellen Degeneres, standup

Hit sitcom, emergy talk show, Comedy Central's No. 16 standup of all-time and the No. 2 woman on the list. And I'd have hit a three-way with her and Anne Heche back in the day.
You chirp me for Whoopi Goldberg and then take Ellen Degeneres?

Actually, I think she's excellent. The only time she wasn't funny was when her sitcom decided to become a political statement. That whole situation seemed to drain a lot of her humor away.

[Maple Leafs]

By the way, I'm going out to lunch and a movie (Narnia) soon, so I won't likely be around for my next pick. I don't think I can safely PM my pick to any of you guys (no offense ;) ), so if any non-playing observers want to help a brotha out, let me know and I'll PM my picks to you if I haven't left yet.
If you can't find anyone, let me know. I don't have another pick for two rounds so I'm on the sidelines for a while.

[Schmidty]

If you can't find anyone, let me know. I don't have another pick for two rounds so I'm on the sidelines for a while.

Ah, ok. I'll just send them to you then.

[albionmoonlight]

Sorry guys. I've been here; just didn't realize that it was my turn.

Andy Kauffman (standup).

He was weird, and not everyone got him, but he managed to pull off a brand of humor so unique that no one has really been able to follow him.

[sachmo71]

maple leafs,

just a note...you have pick 5.7 listed for both kcchief19 and vtbub

[albionmoonlight]

Unless there's been a trade, Swaggs is up.

[kcchief19]

You chirp me for Whoopi Goldberg and then take Ellen Degeneres?

Actually, I think she's excellent. The only time she wasn't funny was when her sitcom decided to become a political statement. That whole situation seemed to drain a lot of her humor away.I knew that was coming. ;)

Agreed on all counts. That show did jump the shark when she came out. I've always thought she was funny, and she's been great hosting the Emmys. I've caught here talk show a few times and it's definitely better than most.

[Swaggs]

With pick 5.10, I will pick the King of All Media, Howard Stern to fill my talk show/variety slot.

He is very well known, has had a long and distinguished career in radio, but has also made a huge dent in in film, book sales, and television. And, is going to be a big factor in the future of satelite radio.

[albionmoonlight]

I'm off to go (ugh) work out (freaking New Year's resolutions).

Maple Leafs has my pick.

[Swaggs]

With pick 6.1, we will round our sketch comedy team with (surprisingly) a second non-SNL member. I pick Tracey Ullman.

She has been the creative mind behind two different Emmy winning sketch shows, the first of which spawned a little cartoon known as the Simpsons.

[Maple Leafs]

Albion sent his pick:

Dan Akroyd (movies)