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kingfc22
02-10-2006, 03:47 PM
The game is 8 PM PST tonight in San Francisco. And I am going!!!http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
This will be the first time I have attended a US men's national team game. I hope we play some or majority of our A-squad tonight just because I'm selfish and want to see the best we have.
Eaglesfan27
02-10-2006, 03:48 PM
The game is 8 PM PST tonight in San Francisco. And I am going!!!http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
This will be the first time I have attended a US mens national team game. I hope we play some or majority of our A-squad tonight just because I'm selfish and want to see the best we have.
I'm so very jealous.
Enjoy the game. :D
TazFTW
02-10-2006, 04:04 PM
I hope we play some or majority of our A-squad tonight just because I'm selfish and want to see the best we have.
Nope. Here's the roster for the game.
Goalkeepers (3): Kevin Hartman (Los Angeles Galaxy), Matt Reis (New England Revolution), Zach Wells (Houston 1836)
Defenders (5): Bobby Boswell (D.C. United), Jimmy Conrad (Kansas City Wizards), Todd Dunivant (Los Angeles Galaxy), Heath Pearce (FC Nordsjælland), Eddie Pope (Real Salt Lake)
Midfielders (6): Brian Carroll (D.C. United), Clint Dempsey (New England Revolution), Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy), Chris Klein (Real Salt Lake), Ben Olsen (D.C. United), Kerry Zavagnin (Kansas City Wizards)
Forwards (6): Brian Ching (Houston 1836), Eddie Johnson (FC Dallas), Pat Noonan (New England Revolution), Chris Rolfe (Chicago Fire), Taylor Twellman (New England Revolution), Josh Wolff (Kansas City Wizards)
ice4277
02-10-2006, 05:50 PM
Have a good time. I had the opportunity to go to US/England last year and it was a lot of fun.
Desnudo
02-10-2006, 06:21 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing Eddie Johnson back in action.
RPI-Fan
02-10-2006, 08:25 PM
It's not TOO bad of a lineup, with one maybe defender on the WC roster (Pope), two definite middies (Donovan & Dempsey), two borderlines (Klein & Zavs), and potentially 4 forwards (Rolfe, Twellman, Wolff, Johnson).
I'd love to see Rolfe play w/ Johnson for at least 60 minutes tonight.
Sublime 2
02-10-2006, 09:30 PM
I hope Twellman made his case in the last friendly to keep around for Germany, I like the way he works hard and of course he's a New England boy.
DaddyTorgo
02-10-2006, 10:10 PM
3-6-1 for Japan?? that's a new look. should provide a nice challenge for these USA midfielders/defenders
MikeVick7
02-10-2006, 10:11 PM
Well I've found my new Hattrick formation, the 3-6-1. Say what? :)
TazFTW
02-10-2006, 10:11 PM
Japan is playing a 3-6-1. Interesting.
US starting 11
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/1258/startingxi7bi.jpg
RPI-Fan
02-10-2006, 10:27 PM
Early thoughts (20 mins gone)...
Klein: Terrible
Donovan: Very good
Wolff: Better than usual
Conrad: Don't trust him with the ball
Pope: Not very good
DaddyTorgo
02-10-2006, 10:29 PM
klein=not consistent enough with his passes
wolff=always a step behind, or just barely failing to keep control
donovan=spot on
DaddyTorgo
02-10-2006, 10:31 PM
dola
impressive possession spell by USA though.
haha. beautiful knockdown header by Twellman. and a goal for Pope!
MikeVick7
02-10-2006, 10:31 PM
More thoughts...Japan's wore themselves out with their pressing defense about 13 minutes in.
TazFTW
02-10-2006, 10:34 PM
The 3-6-1 is arse.
RPI-Fan
02-10-2006, 10:34 PM
That was a heck of a play by Twellman. When Dunivant hit that ball I thought for sure the keeper would be all over it.
RPI-Fan
02-10-2006, 10:35 PM
Lando + Confidence = wow
DaddyTorgo
02-10-2006, 10:35 PM
yeah i don't think japan has the defensive talent to play the 3-6-1 successfully. or the midfield defensive talent even
RPI-Fan
02-10-2006, 10:38 PM
What's interesting (and encouraging?) about this game is that Japan is a very similar team to us. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts, yadda yadda.
And we are smoking them, with them having more of an A-team out there than we do.
DaddyTorgo
02-10-2006, 10:38 PM
nice D by noonan there, coming back to cut that off.
DaddyTorgo
02-10-2006, 10:40 PM
And we are smoking them, with them having more of an A-team out there than we do.i'm not THAT familiar with Japan's players, but they aren't playing any of their overseas players in this match, and they have at least as many overseas players that start for the national team as we do. so I don't know how much more of an A-team this is for them. but like i said, i'm far from an expert.
RPI-Fan
02-10-2006, 10:41 PM
i'm not THAT familiar with Japan's players, but they aren't playing any of their overseas players in this match, and they have at least as many overseas players that start for the national team as we do. so I don't know how much more of an A-team this is for them. but like i said, i'm far from an expert.
I thought they had fewer overseas guys than we do?
DaddyTorgo
02-10-2006, 10:43 PM
I thought they had fewer overseas guys than we do?well that was totally an educated guess by me. but the announcers did say they had "plenty" earlier.
RPI-Fan
02-10-2006, 10:45 PM
What a goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
TazFTW
02-10-2006, 10:45 PM
That was sweet.
RPI-Fan
02-10-2006, 10:46 PM
Twellman >= McBride ???
DaddyTorgo
02-10-2006, 10:48 PM
at this point i almost want to say that, but then again we have to keep in mind we havn't seen mcbride in a while.
but yes, twellman is on fire. and dempsey+noonan+twellman work so well together, which enhances that. whereas mcbride+reyna+donovan work so well together which enhances mcbride.
the homer in me wants to say twellman > mcbride, but it's too early
DaddyTorgo
02-10-2006, 10:49 PM
dola. that goal was beautiful though. laid off so well by twellman
RPI-Fan
02-10-2006, 10:51 PM
The three guys I'd love to see get a lot of time:
Johnson, Rolfe, and Pearce
ISiddiqui
02-10-2006, 10:56 PM
at this point i almost want to say that, but then again we have to keep in mind we havn't seen mcbride in a while.
but yes, twellman is on fire. and dempsey+noonan+twellman work so well together, which enhances that. whereas mcbride+reyna+donovan work so well together which enhances mcbride.
the homer in me wants to say twellman > mcbride, but it's too earlyAlso remember that McBride is tied for 8th in the EPL in goal scoring (though lower when you count cup games), and only 1 goal in the Prem behind Rooney.
I think it is way too easy to count Twellman as better than McBride from a couple meaningless friendlies.
Mr. Wednesday
02-10-2006, 10:57 PM
Twellman >= McBride ???I don't think so, personally -- McBride has been lighting up the EPL this season with Fulham. Either one of Twellman's assists is certainly in Brian's repertoire.
DaddyTorgo
02-10-2006, 11:01 PM
Also remember that McBride is tied for 8th in the EPL in goal scoring (though lower when you count cup games), and only 1 goal in the Prem behind Rooney.
I think it is way too easy to count Twellman as better than McBride from a couple meaningless friendlies.
exactly. i didn't know that mcbride was tied for 8th in the EPL. but the point is very true, it's easy to say that about twellman right now as the "flavor of the month" especially as we havn't seen mcbride in a USA jersey in a while now. but mcbride definately has the track record.
ISiddiqui
02-10-2006, 11:13 PM
Goal.
DaddyTorgo
02-10-2006, 11:14 PM
TWELLLLMANNNNNN
RPI-Fan
02-10-2006, 11:15 PM
I'll take the "flavor of the month", as long as it's in June. :)
DaddyTorgo
02-10-2006, 11:15 PM
gah. why does balboa want wolff in germany? wolff is no good! grrr
ISiddiqui
02-10-2006, 11:16 PM
I'll take the "flavor of the month", as long as it's in June. :)I have a feeling that Italy, Czech Republic, and Ghana are going to be a good deal better than Japan... and won't be playing a 3-6-1 ;).
ISiddiqui
02-10-2006, 11:16 PM
gah. why does balboa want wolff in germany? wolff is no good! grrrThen who's the 4th forward? Not like the 4th forward is really going to see much playing time anyway though.
RPI-Fan
02-10-2006, 11:19 PM
I get frustrated with Bruce's decisions as much and as fast as anyone, anywhere.
But I just think I'll give up questioning him. He is an amazing international manager.
MikeVick7
02-10-2006, 11:19 PM
So is Landon Donovan's last name really pronounced Done-ovan?
This play-by-play guy insists on pronouncing it that way.
Havok
02-10-2006, 11:20 PM
Of course im most impressed with Twellman.... i hope he continues to improve.
Also, Lando is just such a stud. Dam fun watching him create chance after chance and his passes/Free Kicks are so freaking accurate.
RPI-Fan
02-10-2006, 11:21 PM
So is Landon Donovan's last name really pronounced Done-ovan?
This play-by-play guy insists on pronouncing it that way.
That's the left-back, Done-i-vint. (Dunivant)
Donovan is Don-uh-vinn, or as I prefer, Don-oh-vinn. :)
ISiddiqui
02-10-2006, 11:21 PM
I get frustrated with Bruce's decisions as much and as fast as anyone, anywhere.
But I just think I'll give up questioning him. He is an amazing international manager.I've always wondered why anyone bothered questioning Arena in the first place. What? You want to back to Sampson?
MikeVick7
02-10-2006, 11:22 PM
That's the left-back, Done-i-vint. (Dunivant)
Donovan is Don-uh-vinn, or as I prefer, Don-oh-vinn. :)
Ahhh...my bad. I'm not familiar with the other dude.
DaddyTorgo
02-10-2006, 11:22 PM
Then who's the 4th forward? Not like the 4th forward is really going to see much playing time anyway though.well if that's the case why not give it to Rossi? (sarcasm). or shit...adu (less sarcasm but not serious).
you're right...the 4th forward isn't going to see much if any playing time, but you might as well make it a productive spot.
then again...In Bruce We Trust
Havok
02-10-2006, 11:23 PM
Eddie Johnson in the game now... if he can stay healthy i see no reason why he shouldn't be playing somewhere in Europe.
RPI-Fan
02-10-2006, 11:23 PM
After a slow start, Noonan has realy found a groove up and down that left flank tonight.
ISiddiqui
02-10-2006, 11:24 PM
BAD! BAD DEFENSE! BAD!
RPI-Fan
02-10-2006, 11:25 PM
Klein pretty much wore out his (albeit slim) WC chances tonight. Worst performance by a U.S. player this calander year, IMO.
ISiddiqui
02-10-2006, 11:26 PM
well if that's the case why not give it to Rossi? (sarcasm). or shit...adu (less sarcasm but not serious).
you're right...the 4th forward isn't going to see much if any playing time, but you might as well make it a productive spot.
then again...In Bruce We TrustI think Adu needs to learn some humility, IMO. He's a great talent, but sometimes he just seems to drift out of games. Let him know that we expect a full 90 minutes from him.
And I'd rather have Wolff than Ching, I think.
ISiddiqui
02-10-2006, 11:37 PM
This defense is starting to look pitiful.
Blade6119
02-10-2006, 11:50 PM
i really dont like ching...god help us if he ever plays in the WC
Galaxy
02-10-2006, 11:51 PM
Eddie Johnson in the game now... if he can stay healthy i see no reason why he shouldn't be playing somewhere in Europe.
He actually got a $5 million transfer offer (well, the MLS did) from one of the top Portugal teams. He'll likely go after the WC. I got a feeling the MLS wants to build up his value in the Cup.
Blade6119
02-10-2006, 11:54 PM
why bring in pearce in the 90th?....i dont get that
Blade6119
02-10-2006, 11:55 PM
dola, but i like the 1-2 minutes he did play
TazFTW
02-10-2006, 11:59 PM
I love Balboa doing commentary.
PBP dude - "He's got a bright future."
Balboa - "No he doesn't."
Blade6119
02-11-2006, 12:01 AM
I love Balboa doing commentary.
PBP dude - "He's got a bright future."
Balboa - "No he doesn't."
It was hilarious, but i agreed. The kid had a nice rookie season in the MLS, but why does that make him a future USA star? It was funny, but true...he explained it perfectly
DaddyTorgo
02-11-2006, 12:02 AM
piss poor defending in the latter part of the 2nd half there by the USA, but a bunch of that can be attributed to all the changes. and the fact that it was our B-/C+ defense and probably at this point our C goalkeeper means that i'm not THAT worried about that.
kingfc22
02-11-2006, 01:43 AM
Just got home from the game and here are a few things I noticed. We started slow (first 10 minutes or so) and finished poor as well (last 12-15 minutes).
Hartman looked awful. Wolfe was nowhere to be seen.
Donovan played very solid and had some very nice corners tonight. Taylor freaking Twellman just dominated Japan. He seemingly won every ball in the air inside the 18. Eddie Pope also played well.
As far as the subs go, only Johnson seemed to do anything positive.
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