MySpace question...

[Ben E Lou]

If I remove someone from my "Friends" list, do they get a notification that I've done so?

[TLK]

I'm almost a 100% sure that the answer is no.

[Franklinnoble]

You're about to shatter the frail ego of a 14 year old girl, aren't you?

[Anthony]

listen, i can take a hint. you don't have to drop these veiled threads. i know where we stand.

[Ben E Lou]

You're about to shatter the frail ego of a 14 year old girl, aren't you?Close. 17-year-old, and that's precisely what I'm wondering. I just discovered that some time today, she posted a wholly inappropriate--and perhaps even illegal, given her age--picture as her *profile* pic, which was therefore appearing in my friends list. I want to be known as a "friend of sinners," to be sure, but I am not interested in going to jail, either.

As for the original question, after posting here, I called SWMBO to help me test it out. SWMBO created an account, added me as a Friend, and then took me off, and no, I received no notification.

[Ben E Lou]

listen, i can take a hint. you don't have to drop these veiled threads. i know where we stand.:D

[MikeVic]

Close. 17-year-old, and that's precisely what I'm wondering. I just discovered that some time today, she posted a wholly inappropriate--and perhaps even illegal, given her age--picture as her *profile* pic, which was therefore appearing in my friends list. I want to be known as a "friend of sinners," to be sure, but I am not interested in going to jail, either.


You just had to post this description, didn't you.

[Ben E Lou]

You just had to post this description, didn't you.Well, FN asked, and, quite frankly, it is incredibly sad and disturbing.

[SackAttack]

Close. 17-year-old, and that's precisely what I'm wondering. I just discovered that some time today, she posted a wholly inappropriate--and perhaps even illegal, given her age--picture as her *profile* pic, which was therefore appearing in my friends list. I want to be known as a "friend of sinners," to be sure, but I am not interested in going to jail, either.

It's MySpace.

It's par for the course.

If this surprises you, you probably shouldn't have a Friends list there.

[MikeVic]

Well, FN asked, and, quite frankly, it is incredibly sad and disturbing.

What's the ruling on things like this? Can Myspace get in trouble if she is under-age for wherever she's from (including if that eans a country that has an age level of 21 or something)?

[Ben E Lou]

It's MySpace.

It's par for the course.

If this surprises you, you probably shouldn't have a Friends list there.I've seen hundreds (probably thousands?) of pics on Myspace, and plenty of over-the-line ones, but I've never run across one like this one.

[stevew]

How inappropriate are we talking? Would you put her in the penalty box here for posting it? With of course the obligatory 7/18ths vote of current moderators here, and the inevitable 16 page bitchfest thread that would result.

[Ben E Lou]

How inappropriate are we talking? Would you put her in the penalty box here for posting it? With of course the obligatory 7/18ths vote of current moderators here, and the inevitable 16 page bitchfest thread that would result.I've caught one straight-up hardcore porn pics posted here briefly, but other than that, this one would rank as the most obviously NSFW pic ever posted at FOFC, I'm pretty sure. It would be an easy automatic boxing here, with no bitchfest whatsoever, the only comments being of the "what-the-hell-what-that-guy-thinking-posting-that" variety.

[cthomer5000]

link pls k thx

[Ben E Lou]

link pls k thxI'm stunned that it took this long.

[Solecismic]

Wow. That girl sure needs to learn about red-eye removal tools. You'd think that would be second nature for the younger generation.

[Blade6119]

Wow. That girl sure needs to learn about red-eye removal tools. You'd think that would be second nature for the younger generation.
Jim did some net searching it seems

[Anthony]

it couldn't have been that good of a pic if the only thing Jim has to comment on is her red-eyes.

[Ben E Lou]

Wow. That girl sure needs to learn about red-eye removal tools. You'd think that would be second nature for the younger generation.:eek:

I bow to your searching capabilities, sir, but you gotta PM me and tell me how the heck you did that.

[duckman]

Before we start asking for "links pls k thx," we should be asking the fundamental question here: is she hot? :D

[Franklinnoble]

Ben - as a youth pastor, don't you think it'd be better to counsel this girl about this photo?

At the very least, you need to tell her parents about it.

[oliegirl]

I thought the fundamental question was to ask SkyDog for a link to his MySpace page!

[Blade6119]

:eek:

I bow to your searching capabilities, sir, but you gotta PM me and tell me how the heck you did that.
Its really easy on myspace to find someone if you know their e-mail..from there he just scanned your friends list id imagine...

[Airhog]

I just put in Ben e lou, and it took me right to ya. Guess you already removed the pic though...

[Ben E Lou]

Ben - as a youth pastor, don't you think it'd be better to counsel this girl about this photo?1. For the 3598829489th time, I'm not a youth pastor. It woudl be a very rare church indeed that I would work for, to be honest.

2. Before I ever asked the question here, I took the first step toward making sure that she gets an appropriate and loving conversation about this. It would be best coming from a female, I think.

3. Without going into detail, it is rare for a kid to get to this point at her age without having some seriously screwed-up parenting going on to begin with. :(

[Ben E Lou]

Its really easy on myspace to find someone if you know their e-mail..from there he just scanned your friends list id imagine...But I took it off of my friends list before I ever posted here. Is it still there?

[Airhog]

But I took it off of my friends list before I ever posted here. Is it still there?


Maybe Jim saw it before you removed it...

[Ben E Lou]

Maybe Jim saw it before you removed it...As in he was checking out my MySpace profile randomly before I ever started this thread??? I guess that's possible, but what are the odds?

[cartman]

A friend of a friend...

[Blade6119]

But I took it off of my friends list before I ever posted here. Is it still there?
I just went through and its not, though "slam dunk the funk" is a hottie(shes my age, no worries)

[Solecismic]

No. I saw your profile later. And listened to a little music. I liked it, hadn't heard it before.

I'll shut up now if you prefer. She's obviously had a tough life, and probably doesn't need dirty older men ogling her. But I'd give her a 6, maybe a 6 1/2. Maybe knowing how easy that picture was to find for a forum full of 30-something football fans just based on a tiny bit of information would help your wife (or whoever you are asking to talk with her) realize how stupid it was to post it.

[jbmagic]

Why the hell a grown man join MySpace?

That place is mostly teens that join and go there now.

[Solecismic]

You'd be surprised. There are more than 40 million profiles on MySpace already. It's definitely captured the 20-something set already.

I've thought about creating an FOF profile, sort of a blog for development. But I don't like giving development updates on a regular basis.

[Anthony]

i'm on MySpace, you have to be in order to send messages to the people.

[Ben E Lou]

Why the hell a grown man join MySpace? Originally, because hundreds of my kids and former kids are members. What's interesting is that over a short time I've discovered that MySpace and Facebook are great ways of mass-communicating with kids (we have over 100 kids in our "group" on Facebook that we send announcements to every week about our meetings), getting new kids involved, and even of having significant conversations with them (as was mentioned in this thread (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=46905&highlight=facebook)). For example, I posted the following message to the profiles of all of the high school kids that I have in my MySpace friend list:

2/5/2006 10:10 AM

SUPER BOWL PARTY!!!

It is happening at Briarcliff United Methodist Church, and there's going to be the Super Bowl on a 52-inch screen plus LOTS MORE!!!! We've got great food (chili, wings, yummmmm), great friends, and lots of fun stuff going on if you're not that interested in the game. Here's a list of what will be available to do:

* LOTS of food (come hungry, 'cause there will be wings, chili, desserts, snacks, drinks, you NAME it!)
* The Super Bowl on a 52-inch TV screen! (Make sure to cheer for my good buddy Mack Strong, the Seahawks' long-suffering fullback.)
* full-court basketball
* ping-pong
* pool
* foosball
* board games
* TONS of high school people from LHS and THS

ALSO, don't forget that today is the deadline to get the price break for the Castaway Club trip. If you're not signed up, DO IT TODAY!!! Go to http://tuckeryl.younglife.org for more information.Several kids who weren't previously involved saw the announcement on their friends' profiles, and showed up. Two of those kids who showed up for the first time to the Super Bowl Party have remained involved since then.

[Franklinnoble]

I've thought about creating an FOF profile, sort of a blog for development. But I don't like giving development updates on a regular basis.Tell us something we DON'T know. http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Blade6119]

Skydog, if i take trip to GA would you mind hooking me up with one or two of those ladies? Best leave FOFC out of it though, chicks dont tend to love it

[Ben E Lou]

You'd be surprised. There are more than 40 million profiles on MySpace already. It's definitely captured the 20-something set already.

I've thought about creating an FOF profile, sort of a blog for development. But I don't like giving development updates on a regular basis.Yeah, there's definitely a significant out-of-college-to-age-30 presence there. I've reconnected with quite a few former YL kids through it and Facebook as well. One day, I'm going to systematically go through and do a search of graduating classes of the schools I've been connected with.

[Blade6119]

Yeah, there's definitely a significant out-of-college-to-age-30 presence there. I've reconnected with quite a few former YL kids through it and Facebook as well. One day, I'm going to systematically go through and do a search of graduating classes of the schools I've been connected with.
Ok, how are you on facebook...thats college only, and last time i checked you were not 20 :confused:

[ScottVib]

That's the thing in the news here in CT there have been several sexual assaults that are happening with 20/30 something year old guys going after the teens they "meet" on myspace.

[CamEdwards]

:( looking at some of these kids makes me really depressed. My only hope is that the pendelum will swing back towards the 1950's by the time Catherine hits dating age.

[Karlifornia]

Man, what about "Amy" she's hawt. Click on the chick with big blue eyes in Ben's top 8, and Amy is like the first or second comment on hers. The last two pics in her "View More Pics". Niiiice.


Is 22 old enough to qualify as a "Dirty Old Man"?

[cartman]

http://images.ucomics.com/comics/bo/2006/bo060306.gif

:D

[SackAttack]

Man, what about "Amy" she's hawt. Click on the chick with big blue eyes in Ben's top 8, and Amy is like the first or second comment on hers. The last two pics in her "View More Pics". Niiiice.


Is 22 old enough to qualify as a "Dirty Old Man"?

Yes. Yes, it is.

[Blade6119]

Man, what about "Amy" she's hawt. Click on the chick with big blue eyes in Ben's top 8, and Amy is like the first or second comment on hers. The last two pics in her "View More Pics". Niiiice.


Is 22 old enough to qualify as a "Dirty Old Man"?
I looked, i could not find....alas, i am sad now

[JonInMiddleGA]

That's the thing in the news here in CT there have been several sexual assaults that are happening with 20/30 something year old guys going after the teens they "meet" on myspace.

I believe we had something less serious but in that vein happening locally here as well. MySpace was the subject of a "parents, be sure you know what your kids are doing online and who they are talking to" letter from my son's school a couple of weeks back.

The site has now been banned from access on school computers & I got the impression that some additional disciplinary action was being taken against some specific high school students who were involved in something ... I dunno, "unsavory", through the site.

(Keep in mind, I live about a half an hour from those legendary "Lost Children of Rockdale County" so pretty much anything isn't beyond the realm of believability)

[Neuqua]

We gotta make an FOFC Group on facebook. All the cool people would flock to it.

[JeeberD]

We gotta make an FOFC Group on facebook. All the cool people would flock to it.

I've seriously considered making an FOF or Text Sim Fans group on MySpace before. How dorky am I?

[Neuqua]

myspace is the AA affiliate of Facebook.

[Karlifornia]

Whoops..her name isn't amy...it's Lisa....The hot one is Lisa

hxxp://www.myspace.com/lisainwonderland

Can I get boxed for this link?

[SirFozzie]

Myspace, otherwise known as a Dirty Old Man (I can't use the term I want to use)'s paradise. It's like a shopping mall for online predators. The amount of information that folks on there give to potential stalkers is mind boggling.. (I usually hear one or two stories a week on the news about myspace. If I ever have kids, myspace.com will=127.0.0.1 on any computer in the house.

[sabotai]

Anyone seen the "myspace - THE MOVIE" video on youtube? Thought it was decently funny.

[Airhog]

I found the one you were talking about Skydog. Very inappropriate for a 17yo. My kid would not see the light of day for until they were 18 for posting something like that

[duckman]

Whoops..her name isn't amy...it's Lisa....The hot one is Lisa

hxxp://www.myspace.com/lisainwonderland

Can I get boxed for this link?
She looks like a 12 year old. :eek:

[cthomer5000]

Wow, the profile is like "how many illegal activities can we get on this one page?"

[wade moore]

Tell us something we DON'T know. http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
I was thinking of replying along the lines of, "understatement of the millenium"... ;)...

[SackAttack]

If she's 17 and this photo is as bad as it sounds, wouldn't that mean that any of you who've looked for and found her profile have broken some laws? Age of majority in her state may not be the same as in others.

[Rizon]

We had a woman come in to work and talk about what she found on her 15 year olds Myspace. There were pictures of drugs and all that junk that teenies love to yack about. Her daughter claimed someone "hacked" her Myspace and added them there, and how she trusted her daughter, etc etc and believed her etc etc blind parent mumbo etc.

I had to wait for her to leave the room before I pissed myself laughing.

[Hurst2112]

I was into myspace for a bit, then ditched it. I'm back up again for the networking of bands and stuff. It's great for an engineer because even bands that don't have a decent website can post stuff for free. I've gotten gigs because of myspace. I do have a few chicks on there, but for the most part, it's all rock n roll.

[Ben E Lou]

Ok, how are you on facebook...thats college only, and last time i checked you were not 20 :confused:You can get on it through an alumni account. I'm connected to tons of former kids who are in their mid-to-late 20's and are on Facebook.

[Ben E Lou]

We had a woman come in to work and talk about what she found on her 15 year olds Myspace. There were pictures of drugs and all that junk that teenies love to yack about. Her daughter claimed someone "hacked" her Myspace and added them there, and how she trusted her daughter, etc etc and believed her etc etc blind parent mumbo etc.

I had to wait for her to leave the room before I pissed myself laughing.She's not unusual, Rizon. I could tell you some mind-boggling stories of the crap that parents will believe.

[Cap Ologist]

Originally, because hundreds of my kids and former kids are members. What's interesting is that over a short time I've discovered that MySpace and Facebook are great ways of mass-communicating with kids (we have over 100 kids in our "group" on Facebook that we send announcements to every week about our meetings), getting new kids involved, and even of having significant conversations with them (as was mentioned in this thread (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=46905&highlight=facebook)). For example, I posted the following message to the profiles of all of the high school kids that I have in my MySpace friend list:
Several kids who weren't previously involved saw the announcement on their friends' profiles, and showed up. Two of those kids who showed up for the first time to the Super Bowl Party have remained involved since then.


Do I need a sleeping bag?

[amdaily]

Whoops..her name isn't amy...it's Lisa....The hot one is Lisa

hxxp://www.myspace.com/lisainwonderland

Can I get boxed for this link?
god yes! ban this fucker! (hot@!!_

[Anthony]

She looks like a 12 year old. :eek:

i don't understand, what's so wrong about it? and she's very attractive.

i don't see anything innappropriate if this is the chick that SD is referring to.

[Ben E Lou]

i don't understand, what's so wrong about it? and she's very attractive.

i don't see anything innappropriate if this is the chick that SD is referring to."Lisa" (who they are referring to) is not the one I'm referring to. I don't think I've met Lisa. Trust me when I say that you'll immediately know what I'm talking about if you see it.

[TazFTW]

Whoops..her name isn't amy...it's Lisa....The hot one is Lisa

hxxp://www.myspace.com/lisainwonderland

Can I get boxed for this link?
Lisa is 18 and she has two more years of high school?

[Anthony]

well, her friend Tosha Nicola is rather hot and risque for a 17 year old, but nothing that would get you automatically boxed.

jeez, musta missed a doozie. oh well. hope it's just for attention (whatever this chick was doing) and not an indicator of something else.

[Eaglesfan27]

I could tell you nightmare stories about the pics some of my patients have posted on myspace (as reported to me by their parents that busted them.)

[Anthony]

yeesh. i gotta use my myspace a little more. it's unbelievable the amount of completely hot chicks there are out there. unfortunately i'm married (and apparently 10 years too old).

i still don't see this myspace thing as the phenominom it's made out to be. i guess it's for this generation what AOL chatrooms were for my generation.

[Ben E Lou]

Lisa is 18 and she has two more years of high school?She's probably not 18. There's an age cutoff where others can't see your profile if you're below a certain age. If she's a soph, she's probably 16. They increase their ages if they're at or below the age limit, so that everyone can see their profile, I assume. (Again, I'm guessing here. I'm fairly certain I've never met Lisa.)

[vex]

I could tell you nightmare stories about the pics some of my patients have posted on myspace (as reported to me by their parents that busted them.)
But they didn't really do it...they were hacked, HACKED I SAY!!!

[Ben E Lou]

oh well. hope it's just for attention (whatever this chick was doing) and not an indicator of something else.My best guess is that it's for attention, AND an indicator of something else.

[amdaily]

She's probably not 18. There's an age cutoff where others can't see your profile if you're below a certain age. If she's a soph, she's probably 16. They increase their ages if they're at or below the age limit, so that everyone can see their profile, I assume. (Again, I'm guessing here. I'm fairly certain I've never met Lisa.)agreed, i've seen this phenonemon before, you click on an 18 year old in the search, but right in the profile is says 16 or lwer!

[Ben E Lou]

i still don't see this myspace thing as the phenominom it's made out to be. i guess it's for this generation what AOL chatrooms were for my generation.I don't know about that. It seems to be changing the way that some communicate. As I mentioned in the other thread, a significant percentage (if not a majority) of the deeper questions I've gotten from kids in the last few months since I've joined Facebook and MySpace have been through those two mediums, even though every one of the ones who have contacted me that way have my e-mail address, mobile phone number, and know where I live. I don't fully understand it myself, but there's definitely *something* to it.

[wade moore]

Pretty sure I found the profile that SD was referencing...

Really bad for a 17 year old to post that... To me it's probably very borderline for FOFC boxing if it was an 18+ female... so maybe I don't have the right one ;)...

[wade moore]

Pretty sure I found the profile that SD was referencing...

Really bad for a 17 year old to post that... To me it's probably very borderline for FOFC boxing if it was an 18+ female... so maybe I don't have the right one ;)...
The more I look at this page, the more I think it is definately the right one and the more questionable I realize that pic is...

[Anthony]

hey Dawg, do you know this guy, apparently he knows you and put you in his song:

http://www.allenlevi.com/change/shoes.html

[wade moore]

hey Dawg, do you know this guy, apparently he knows you and put you in his song:

http://www.allenlevi.com/change/shoes.html
Might want to read all of the Dogger's myspace page.

[Anthony]

d'oh...i haven't seen his page. nevermind then.

[Ben E Lou]

hey Dawg, do you know this guy, apparently he knows you and put you in his song:

http://www.allenlevi.com/change/shoes.htmlAbsolutely. Levi (no one calls him Allen) is a mentor of mine and a very dear friend. He gave me my first guitar when I was 18 years old and wanting to learn to play. We went to the same relatively small church and I was the youngest member of the college/career small group, and he was the oldest, so he took me under his wing. He's a simply AMAZING song-writer. Dat boy's metaphors sound so good...

Early in the morning of our wedding day, we had a worship service in the small chapel on Levi's property. He sang several of his songs there.

I love stuff like this that he does:

http://www.allenlevi.com/lyrics/where.html

Where the People Walk Backwards

(December 3, 1999) -- As I was reading one morning, this story popped into my mind. I'm not sure if it is a song or a childrens' story, but, either way, it's an attempt to understand what happened when God became One of us on that long ago night in Bethlehem.

There's a land where the people all walk around backwards
They walk around backwards everywhere they go
They are bumped, they are bruised, they are scarred and broken
And why they walk around backwards, they don't know
They stumble and they stagger into one another
They trip and they tumble and they all fall down
There's a dangerous cliff that they cannot see
And a lake at the bottom where the people drown

It seems they've always walked around backwards
They were backwards born, they are backwards grown
The little children learn it from their mommas and their poppas
And they're reluctant to leave what they've always known
Some did worse, some did better
They all got by in their backward town
They all feared the cliff and the lake below
But the people would fall and the children would drown

Then a stranger came to town and, to them, He walked .. Backwards
Strangest sight you'd ever see
But He had no bumps, so scars, no bruises
And He said this is how you were meant to be
If you'll just follow me, if you'll just turn around
You will see where you're going, you will not fall down
And you'll have no fear of the cliff and the lake
And you'll not tumble in and you will now drown

But the people got afraid and the people got angry
When He said come follow, everyone refused
They all got together and they did away the stranger
And they still get broken and scarred and bruised
But some, it is said, heard the things He told them
You can recognize their footprints in the town
And they stand at the cliff with the words of the stranger
You'll do fine if you'll just turn around

There still is a land where the people walk backwards
They walk around backwards everywhere they go

[Buccaneer]

I guess there is something to be said about us aging baby boomers who kinda keep private things to themselves?

[wade moore]

The story about the first guitar is on his myspace page fwiw ;).

[Ben E Lou]

The story about the first guitar is on his myspace page fwiw ;).It is also mentioned in my bio at benelou.com. ;)

[Ben E Lou]

We had a woman come in to work and talk about what she found on her 15 year olds Myspace. There were pictures of drugs and all that junk that teenies love to yack about. Her daughter claimed someone "hacked" her Myspace and added them there, and how she trusted her daughter, etc etc and believed her etc etc blind parent mumbo etc.

I had to wait for her to leave the room before I pissed myself laughing.FWIW, my wife just LOLed when she read this.

[samifan24]

Anyone seen the "myspace - THE MOVIE" video on youtube? Thought it was decently funny.

The kid who made that just got a movie deal with MTV's films division...there was an AP wire article about him last week.

[Noop]

I wanna see this myspace... someone pm me her site.

[Rizon]

I wanna see this myspace... someone pm me her site.

And me too.

[Hurst2112]

i still don't see this myspace thing as the phenominom it's made out to be.generation.

Refer to post #59.

[vex]

Refer to post #59.
Link pls.

[Hurst2112]

Link pls.

hmmm? I was referring to the post earlier in the thread that I wrote.

Link in my sig.

www.myspace.com/daryllhurst as well

[Noop]

I don't see what was wrong with her site.

[Samdari]

I don't like giving development updates on a regular basis.

Jim, I think you should put this in your signature

[Celeval]

The more I look at this page, the more I think it is definately the right one and the more questionable I realize that pic is...Agreed on both counts. Heh.

[vex]

hmmm? I was referring to the post earlier in the thread that I wrote.

Link in my sig.

www.myspace.com/daryllhurst (http://www.myspace.com/daryllhurst) as well

;)

[JonInMiddleGA]

It's like a shopping mall for online predators.

http://apnews.myway.com//article/20060325/D8GITIEO3.html

Colo. Police Use MySpace to ID Suspects
Mar 25, 6:58 PM (ET)

BOULDER, Colo. (AP) - Detectives used profiles posted on the MySpace social networking Web site to identify six suspects in a rape and robbery that began when a party turned violent, leaving blood "in almost every room of the house," officials said.

Six men were arrested in connection with the Feb. 23 rampage, and a seventh suspect was being sought, Detective Ali Bartley said Friday.

The victim, whose name was withheld, became acquainted with the suspects through MySpace, authorities said.

The group met for a party. "At some point, the victim was no longer aware of what was happening, and she was sexually assaulted," Bartley said.

She knew only their first names but their pictures were posted on MySpace.

"Primarily, we pulled up her friends list. It helped us identify some of the players," said Bartley.

The men face charges ranging from sexual assault to felony theft. Some $40,000 in electronics, jewelry, clothing and other items were taken, authorities said. About $13,000 worth of stolen goods have been recovered.

"There was blood in almost every room of the house," she said. "There were broken pictures and statues. They stole stereo equipment. The media center was bare."

Nicolas Brison, 18, was charged with rape. The five other men ranged in age from 18 to 20. They were charged on March 7 and hearings are set for April 6.

MySpace drew 28 million visitors in December.