IS THIS CHEATING? or a BUG?

[Joker]

Just a question if this is cheating or just a bug or what?
Anyone want to take the first shot?

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/1985bustinout/77765544443.jpg

[DaddyTorgo]

Just a question if this is cheating or just a bug or what?
Anyone want to take the first shot?

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/1985bustinout/77765544443.jpg

can you larger-ize the pic? I can't see anything, even when I save it and zoom in on my HD.

[Joe]

PFL?

[Joker]

try again...sorry
Look at Kelly Warren!

[Joker]

NOT PFL...

[Greyroofoo]

I would love to have a player like that except I usually have more of a running team

[Raiders Army]

He seems to be a pretty good pass blocker. He's 100 in pass protection and he hasn't yet scratched the surface of his potential.

[QuikSand]

So, instead of a future sxcout rating, he has the number 1536 instead. That's what I can gather from the very complicated graphic.

Sounds like a bug, though one I haven't seen before. Perhaps a result of some tinkering with the game files? I fail to see what else this is -- how do you reach the conclusion that this may evidence cheating?

[JeeberD]

Yeah, looks more like a bug to me than any evidence of cheating...

[Joker]

So, instead of a future sxcout rating, he has the number 1536 instead. That's what I can gather from the very complicated graphic.

Sounds like a bug, though one I haven't seen before. Perhaps a result of some tinkering with the game files? I fail to see what else this is -- how do you reach the conclusion that this may evidence cheating?

Perhaps quicksand, You might want to reread my 1st post?

Just a question if this is cheating or just a bug or what?
Anyone want to take the first shot?

[Joker]

Well he didn't have this rating during the draft or during Free Agency....
So I was wondering when and how this so-called bug ....showed up...

[JeeberD]

If you really want to know what the heck is going on I would suggest shooting off an e-mail to...

Support AT Solecismic.com

They're usually pretty good at getting back to you quickly.

[sovereignstar]

Can we get an IP check is aisle 5?

[Raiders Army]

Whutta JOKER.

[st.cronin]

deja vu

[stevew]

Can we get an IP check is aisle 5?

Pretty plz, k, thx

[QuikSand]

Perhaps quicksand, You might want to reread my 1st post?

Just a question if this is cheating or just a bug or what?
Anyone want to take the first shot?

It was hard to pick that up amidst all your SHOUTING ABOUT CHEATING.

[sovereignstar]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/1985bustinout/77765544443.jpg

http://primetime-football-league.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=6778&highlight=#6778

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/1985bustinout/867545456.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/1985bustinout/867545456.jpg

[sovereignstar]

Good night.

Fucking timestamp!

[sovereignstar]

http://primetime-football-league.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=961

[Joker]

This information is from another league not PFL....but the picture is interesting

[Joe]

LOL

[DaddyTorgo]

It's maximum customizability making an appearce in FOF guys. Duhhhh.

[cthomer5000]

So, instead of a future sxcout rating, he has the number 1536 instead. That's what I can gather from the very complicated graphic.

He also has a future pass block rating of 4181.

[Subby]

This information is from another league not PFL....but the picture is interestingThe only interesting thing is how unbelievably pathetic you are...

[Joker]

Can you tell me why its pathetic?
Its just a question about a game I enjoy playing...
When I find something I think is weird I bring it here.

[Antmeister]

Okay, I am totally confused. Who is JOKER and why the links to PFL? Someone please fill me in.

[Joker]

If you really want to know what the heck is going on I would suggest shooting off an e-mail to...

Support AT Solecismic.com

They're usually pretty good at getting back to you quickly.
thanks for the info I sent it...

[cthomer5000]

Okay, I am totally confused. Who is JOKER and why the links to PFL? Someone please fill me in.

The screenshot above and the picture posted by Shane McGuire of the PFL come from the same photobucket account.

[Joe]

The screenshot above and the picture posted by Shane McGuire of the PFL come from the same photobucket account.

and he was banned. that is clown2 I believe.. so Joker and that guy are the same person

[Cuckoo]

The screenshot above and the picture posted by Shane McGuire of the PFL come from the same photobucket account.


D'oh!

:D

Paging one of our many mods...

[Antmeister]

The screenshot above and the picture posted by Shane McGuire of the PFL come from the same photobucket account.

Thanks...very interesting. When is the Dark Council going to investigate this matter? :eek:

[DaddyTorgo]

Thanks...very interesting. When is the Dark Council going to investigate this matter? :eek:

PMed our MoD

[Buccaneer]

PMed our MoD

But Jeeber was already here. Oh wait...

[DaddyTorgo]

actually PMed Blade as Jeebs wasn't on (what is the world coming to...are you alright Jeebs??). And then Jeeby-man arrived

[JeeberD]

As far as I can tell he's OK.

[Celeval]

So, instead of a future sxcout rating, he has the number 1536 instead. That's what I can gather from the very complicated graphic.

Sounds like a bug, though one I haven't seen before. Perhaps a result of some tinkering with the game files? I fail to see what else this is -- how do you reach the conclusion that this may evidence cheating?

I tinkered with a local game file just now and made something similar happen. Doesn't mean anything now - the rating is way out of range, no real idea whether someone edited that to happen or if it happened because of some odd bug.

[Joker]

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There's definitely a corrupted bit of data there. Never been a bug report of that kind before, though. I think it probably is a bit translation error from the upload process. There's also a player on the Chicago team with a similar error in his salary. Given they're both 3rd-year players, I wouldn't be surprised if those errors are very close to each other in the player file</TT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[Julio Riddols]

duuude.. the f'n plot thickens..

[IwasHere]

If you were Chicago would you keep that player?

He is set to make a little over 3 Billion Dollars this year in salary alone. :)

[rkmsuf]

clearly there is GMac-ing going on

[gottimd]

http://www4.ncsu.edu/~jdorner/bug.jpg

Cheating or a Bug?

[Raiders Army]

Punch bug white, no givebacks!

[Antmeister]

Punch bug white, no givebacks!

Isn't it called Slug Bug?

[stevew]

Punch Bug around here(and in Virginia).

[gstelmack]

Definitely "Punch Bug".

[rkmsuf]

maybe the brothas call it slug bug

[Antmeister]

maybe the brothas call it slug bug

lol....

I always remembered it as Slug Bug. Punch bug doesn't even rhyme.

[rkmsuf]

slug bug sounds harder than punch bug

you say punch bug in the hood and you are asking for trouble

[stevew]

I don't think this is a bug, but rather it's simply Maximum Customization, Baby. You want a player with 42 times the highest pass protection any mere mortal has, you can get it here. This guy looks at the Nose Guard and he turns into a pancake.

[Antmeister]

Damn,

I know it was Slug Bug. Plus you got two extra punches if you were the first one to catch a gold one. Someone back me up. I can't be the only one.

[stevew]

Damn,

I know it was Slug Bug. Plus you got two extra punches if you were the first one to catch a gold one. Someone back me up. I can't be the only one.

Gold volkswagen? Who raised you? :) It's yellow.

[cuervo72]

We called it punch buggy, and I think it was two hits for a VW van.

[Antmeister]

No...not yellow...Gold. Dammit, you got 3 punches for gold and 2 for silver. Every other color got only one punch. I mastered this game on long trips with track and field team back in the day. Punch bug doesn't sound right.

[Eaglesfan27]

We called it punch buggy too.

[Cuckoo]

I'm with you Ant. It was always slug bug here. I never heard punch buggy until the Simpsons.

[cartman]

We called it punch buggy, and I think it was two hits for a VW van.

Same here. And if you happened to spot a VW Thing that was 10 points:

http://wolfpacks.com/images/thing.jpg

or if you spotted the ultra-rare VW trucks, it was 25 points:

http://www.dropgates.com/spec1.jpg

[Antmeister]

Well at least I have Cuckoo on my side. Cmon, are there any other Slug Bug backers?

[stevew]

It's the thing! I've only seen one of those ever. I believe that was amphibious maybe, as well?

[path12]

Well at least I have Cuckoo on my side. Cmon, are there any other Slug Bug backers?

Always was slug bug for me.

[stevew]

nevermind, not amphibious.

The myth that 181s are amphibious vehicles probably comes from their resemblance to the Schwimmwagen, a vehicle tested by the German military during World War II.

[ice4277]

Always was slug bug for me.

Ditto. Always had to call "no slugbacks" for some reason also, but I don't remember why.

[gottimd]

Slug Bug vs. Punch Bug, I think we need a poll.

[Franklinnoble]

It's "Punch Buggy."

Not "Slug Bug." Not "Punch Bug." Punch Buggy.

So let it be written; so let it be done.

[Antmeister]

It's "Punch Buggy."

Not "Slug Bug." Not "Punch Bug." Punch Buggy.

So let it be written; so let it be done.

Punch Buggy sounds worse that Punch Bug. In fact, I will go so far to say Punch Buggy sounds very girly. Now Slug Bug is a man's game and if you are a true man you will say Slug Bug with me.

[Franklinnoble]

Punch Buggy sounds worse that Punch Bug. In fact, I will go so far to say Punch Buggy sounds very girly. Now Slug Bug is a man's game and if you are a true man you will say Slug Bug with me.

To be perfectly candid, whatever you call it, it's a child's game.

Not to threadjack the threadjack (and this is already a great threadjack), but when I was in high school, and the perpetual designated driver (because I never drank), I'd actually drive around looking for VW's, because the guys in the car would play "Chug Bug."

We'd invariably arrive at our destination, with everyone pretty well smashed and hardly able to walk. It was a delicate balance... taking long enough to get everyone drunk enough for my own amusement, but not taking so long as to have guys resorting to urinating or puking in the car (although, I always insisted on driving someone else's car, for precisely that contingency).

[Cringer]

Punch Buggy? WTF is that crap? It's a Bug, not a buggy.

this is a buggy...

http://www.seats4cars.com/vehicles/buggy/buggy.jpg

And it is not even punch bug. It is Slug Bug.

[Antmeister]

To be perfectly candid, whatever you call it, it's a child's game.
... "Chug Bug."...


Okay, you got me there. That sounds way better and I have never played it, especially since I don't drink, but it would have been fun seeing my friends make fools of themselves.

[Passacaglia]

slug bug here

[Antmeister]

Ok where's Kodos? He needs to make this poll official.

[Vince]

I'll back up Slug Bug. And three hits for a 'Slug...Bug...Van!', each getting progressively harder.

[dawgfan]

Slug bug. Punch bug just doesn't roll off the tongue the same way, and punch buggy is, um, not very masculine.

[Raiders Army]

In any case, I said no givebacks.

[Celeval]

White-punch-buggy-no-punch-backs

[GrantDawg]

Popeye! No punch backs.

[JeeberD]

Slug bug all the way!

"Slug bug, red bug, no slug back!"

[IwasHere]

We'd invariably arrive at our destination, with everyone pretty well smashed and hardly able to walk. It was a delicate balance... taking long enough to get everyone drunk enough for my own amusement, but not taking so long as to have guys resorting to urinating or puking in the car (although, I always insisted on driving someone else's car, for precisely that contingency).
You should of spent more time looking inside the car when you were out cruising.

Convertable Bugs were always filled with the hottest girls on the strip.

[Raiders Army]

Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays.

[Joker]

Its nice to see this thread take on a personality of its own.

[stevew]

Isn't Clown2 banned, so this Joker guy should be banned also. Since they are the same individual?

[Blade6119]

Isn't Clown2 banned, so this Joker guy should be banned also. Since they are the same individual?
Skydog agreed to let him come back if he didnt cause any trouble...so far he hasnt caused any that i can see

[JeeberD]

I solemnly swear to never cheer for Lee Mays

http://www.fof-ihof.com/upload/JeeberD/stern.gif

[Antmeister]

Skydog agreed to let him come back if he didnt cause any trouble...so far he hasnt caused any that i can see

Thanks for the info, Dark Council Member.

[Joker]

Steve what quality do you look for in a QB when you draft one?
I look at sense rush.

[Joker]

Skydog agreed to let him come back if he didnt cause any trouble...so far he hasnt caused any that i can see
I don't make trouble unless your a cheater...
MY JOB...
to locate and kill cheaters.....Don't fear the joker

[Antmeister]

Hi JOKER, there is a rumor that you're a clown2. Welcome back and when you go back to the dark side, could you tell me why WrongWay is gone. I missed that whole scenario somehow. He may have deserved it, but I just don't know.

[DaddyTorgo]

Hi JOKER, there is a rumor that you're a clown2. Welcome back and when you go back to the dark side, could you tell me why WrongWay is gone. I missed that whole scenario somehow. He may have deserved it, but I just don't know.

I believe WrongWay was hit with the ban-stick for making fun of Michelle Wie?? But I think it was pretty much a lifetime achievement bannination too.

[Antmeister]

I believe WrongWay was hit with the ban-stick for making fun of Michelle Wie?? But I think it was pretty much a lifetime achievement bannination too.

See that is where I get confused. Was there things in the past that I never paid attention to that was considered trolling? And why did a Michelle Wie hatred take it over the top?

[Joker]

Who's wrongway?.....
and all my conversation are being taped for the next blooper show so...
How to get banned in 30seconds so...shhh

[Antmeister]

Who's wrongway?.....
and all my conversation are being taped for the next blooper show so...
How to get banned in 30seconds so...shhh

You sure you don't know him, he plays is your league with the Steelers.

[DaddyTorgo]

See that is where I get confused. Was there things in the past that I never paid attention to that was considered trolling? And why did a Michelle Wie hatred take it over the top?

just search the forum for michelle wie or something. there was a whole big discussion about it. i'm not willing to speak about it out here where the dark jedi council can observe all.

basically same as most other bannings...some felt that it was targeted and over-the-top, some didn't.

[Joker]

I hate him...I can't beat him....8 years in a row...Champ...
Don't get me started...I really do hate him.

[Franklinnoble]

http://www.cinefantastico.com/images/batman2.jpg

[IwasHere]

I thought WrongWay was banned for his Elmo Post.