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Eaglesfan27
06-02-2006, 11:33 AM
I just needed to get some thoughts out, and this is a safe place to do so. I kept trying to meet with my boss in his office, but he is very busy and wanted to do it while walking in the hallways, even though I told him it was very important. He told me that I was betraying his mentorship and that he desperately needed me at work now, but he couldn't even come close to matching the financial terms that I was offered at this other job.

I shouldn't be feeling guilty, but he is a psychiatrist as well, and he did a heck of a job laying a guilt trip on me. I do feel bad that I'm leaving academic medicine as this was something I wanted to do, and I love teaching. I also feel bad leaving New Orleans as I know that 70-80% of the docs have left and their is a need for psychiatrists in the city.

However, I've asked for a raise several times and have been told no. I've been told that there was a chance my salary would be cut down. I've taken on growing number of responsibilities and titles in the last year, but no compensation has come with them. Therefore, I started looking around.

I found another public sector job (which was very important to me since my mom relied on public sector medicine to treat myself and her when I was little.) However, this other public sector job is offering substantially more money per year to me. Also, this job unlike the university job doesn't put a limit to my seeing a few (or many if I want to work many hours per week which I don't; 48-50 will probably be my limit) private sector patients on the side if I choose to do so. This will raise my salary even more should I choose to do so, but it will be my choice. Right now, I can't do that because of the way the University negotiates all of their employees contracts.

I shouldn't feel guilty because I'm doing what is best for my family while still serving an important function to a community of underprivlidged people. However, I still do feel a bit guilty (although less than when I started writing this.) Anyway, my thoughts are a bit of a jumble now, but just wanted to put some of them down somewhere.

Butter
06-02-2006, 11:36 AM
Good luck, EF27. I know the last year has been a roller coaster. Hope things work out for you.

Lathum
06-02-2006, 11:36 AM
You shouldn't feel guilty at alland shame on your boss for trying to make you feel that way. You should be happy you are making the change because this obviously isn't the kind of person you want to be working for.

AZSpeechCoach
06-02-2006, 11:40 AM
EF27, given everything that you have been saying for the past 9 months about how these people have been treating you, it is clear that they do not really value and respect you. Money is only one small part of it. You need this change and you deserve to work in an environment where you can be appreciated.

Draft Dodger
06-02-2006, 11:41 AM
I hope you get the guilt in check - it sounds like they've taken much more advantage of you than vise versa.

ironically, my father-in-law just retired Wednesday from his psychiatric job to go work at a private practice.

DaddyTorgo
06-02-2006, 11:41 AM
EF27, given everything that you have been saying for the past 9 months about how these people have been treating you, it is clear that they do not really value and respect you. Money is only one small part of it. You need this change and you deserve to work in an environment where you can be appreciated.

what he said

KevinNU7
06-02-2006, 11:42 AM
Personally I would talk to the new job and see how early you can start. Then I'd tell the old boss to eat it and shorten my notice. But I can be a bit of a dick about these things.

Emiliano
06-02-2006, 11:45 AM
Best of luck Brian, you made the right decision.

CamEdwards
06-02-2006, 11:46 AM
It's always tough to leave a job when you have empathy for the people that will be affected. That being said, you still have to do what's best for you and your family.

Where will you be moving to (I apparently missed any earlier threads dealing with you leaving)?

Samdari
06-02-2006, 11:50 AM
I think you owe your employers nothing but the time they pay for, unless you signed a contract acknowledging that you would owe them X years of service due to the extremely high value of their mentorship.

Any mentorship he provided probably did make you a better psychiatrist. But, here's a secret, he did that for his benefit, the fact that it benefitted you as well was an unfortunate, unintended consequence.

Icy
06-02-2006, 11:51 AM
Take the new job, your familly is always the first thing. Also for what you have been writing, they didn't respect you enought in the past. If i remember correctly, they even kicked you out of your own office room because they had other areas more important than your psychiatry.

Franklinnoble
06-02-2006, 11:52 AM
http://images.forbes.com/images/2002/09/13/gordon.jpg
Greed is good.

:D

finketr
06-02-2006, 11:55 AM
Did your pay structure get bumped down since you've turned in your resignation?

JeeberD
06-02-2006, 11:56 AM
You did the right thing, Doc...

Swaggs
06-02-2006, 12:09 PM
The fact that he tried to make you feel guilty about leaving should be enough to tell you that you are making the right move. I think anything beyond a "We're sorry to see you go.." or "We will certainly miss having you here..." is pretty unprofessional. If he is making your decision to move your family into a better situation as a personal betrayal, then that should show you that he is far more concerned with himself, and his situation, than you and yours.

Eaglesfan27
06-02-2006, 12:10 PM
I'll start working at a public mental health clinic in Baton Rouge at the beginning of July, Cam. I've known I was going to move for a few months, but couldn't give notice because past employees who have done so have had their salary cut in half by the university. Therefore, I purposefully waited until after my May (we get monthly checks) check cleared. My new job is about 15 miles from my new home, and the new job has made it abundantly clear that I was valued and respected. They have been recruiting me for over a year and were willing to sign me a to a contract in March but wait for me to start in July. I did this because I wanted to be honorable and serve out my contract which was signed last year and lasted until the end of June 06. I didn't want to leave mid contract like many of the university's doctors did. As far as my salary getting cut, I haven't been told that would be the case yet, but given the fact that EVERY other employee who has given notice has had their salary cut in half, I will be shocked if it isn't cut when I get my June paycheck.

albionmoonlight
06-02-2006, 12:12 PM
You have to do what it right for your family and your career going forward.

And, like you said, you are not giving up public sector work just to go make as much money as possible. You are still contributing to the community.

Good luck with the new job.

Franklinnoble
06-02-2006, 12:16 PM
I'll start working at a public mental health clinic in Baton Rouge at the beginning of July, Cam. I've known I was going to move for a few months, but couldn't give notice because past employees who have done so have had their salary cut in half by the university. Therefore, I purposefully waited until after my May (we get monthly checks) check cleared. My new job is about 15 miles from my new home, and the new job has made it abundantly clear that I was valued and respected. They have been recruiting me for over a year and were willing to sign me a to a contract in March but wait for me to start in July. I did this because I wanted to be honorable and serve out my contract which was signed last year and lasted until the end of June 06. I didn't want to leave mid contract like many of the university's doctors did. As far as my salary getting cut, I haven't been told that would be the case yet, but given the fact that EVERY other employee who has given notice has had their salary cut in half, I will be shocked if it isn't cut when I get my June paycheck.

I still don't get how that pay cut scam is legal. I'd really be inclined to speak to an attorney on that issue.

DaddyTorgo
06-02-2006, 12:19 PM
I still don't get how that pay cut scam is legal. I'd really be inclined to speak to an attorney on that issue.

i was just about to post the same thing. especially if you are under contract i would think there would be provisions against that.

Raiders Army
06-02-2006, 12:21 PM
You shouldn't feel guilty at alland shame on your boss for trying to make you feel that way. You should be happy you are making the change because this obviously isn't the kind of person you want to be working for.
Exactly. Your boss should look out for your welfare no matter what...even if it means you don't work for him.

JediKooter
06-02-2006, 12:23 PM
You have to do what is good for you, not him. Is he going to help pay your bills if you stay there and they cut your salary? I'm thinking he won't.

I say, good move on your part and hope you the best of success.

BrianD
06-02-2006, 12:59 PM
I can understand the boss being disappointed, but don't let it get you down. He should do what is best for the business and you should do what is best for you and your family. If he was doing what is best for the business, he would have done what was necessary to keep you. Since he didn't do that, you have to look out for yourself.

JonInMiddleGA
06-02-2006, 01:04 PM
... EVERY other employee who has given notice has had their salary cut in half,

Dude, right there is the end of the line for any guilt trip this boss tried to lay on you.

I know there's often some self-induced guilt with leaving a lot of jobs, there's a lot of emotional investment that goes with certain jobs & places, seems natural that there'll be some guilt connected to the separation from people that you've been in the trenches with.

That said, you really ought to try reading some of the things you've written about your job situation. Good Lord man, there's more screwing of employees going on in that environment than your average whorehouse. You have NO obligation to wait around to be the next person they take carnal knowledge of (i.e., I don't believe it's a matter of IF they fuck you over, it's just a matter of WHEN they fuck you over).

The other thing I wish you would try to read from a third person p.o.v. is what you said about your desire & willingness to stay in the public service side of the business. That's NOT a decision, or even a priority, for the vast majority of people in the world. AFAIC, you've earned more than enough "moral equity" ,or whatever phrase you prefer, to alleviate any need for any guilt just by that being a part of your decision making process.

MalcPow
06-02-2006, 01:08 PM
Congrats on the new job EF27, this sounds like a great thing all around. The guilt tripping and frustration is usually the first response when someone you see as valuable is unexpectedly leaving, I've been guilty of it myself before. It will blow over.

WSUCougar
06-02-2006, 01:22 PM
Yup, congrats on the new job, and don't spend a whole lot of time looking back. Clearly your "mentor" recognized you as a bargain (good employee, paid on the cheap) and doesn't want to lose that. That's understandable. Jobs inevitably boil down to what you are willing to take for the work you perform, and vice-versa from the employer's perspective. It sounds like the employer, in this case, came out way ahead on you as an employee.

But the bottom line is that you do not need anyone - least of all him - to somehow sanctify your work ethic. You are obviously a very conscientious, quality person, and that stands on its own merits. Carry on.

stevew
06-02-2006, 01:27 PM
I still don't get how that pay cut scam is legal. I'd really be inclined to speak to an attorney on that issue.

If he was going to get cut for 2 months like he feared, then, yeah, it might be worth it to seek an attorney. At one month, it's probably better to just let it go, although I could see pressing it also. Which is not to say that he's made of money or anything, but it would seemingly be kind of hard to get an attorney of any decent skills to go after a relatively small amount of money. I think he said it was something like 4 or 6 grand. Plus you could end up burning up several work days, and tarnish your work reputation unneedingly.

And you did the right thing EF27, they were attempting to "friend" you into staying, and the fact that they make you feel like a dick about it isn't cool at all. I had a couple jobs I stayed at way too long, and felt guilty about leaving before. But after the situation passed i realized i was stupid to have cared, because there was no mutual caring going on, they were just being selfish.

Definately made the right call here.

Eaglesfan27
06-02-2006, 01:29 PM
Thanks guys. Your words are making me feel better. As far as the whole legality of the pay cutting issue, it would take years to fight the state, and even if someone won, the state can cry poor and not pay. Yes, it will be a significant hit financially this month if they cut my pay in half, but attorneys fees and the lengthy process are going to preclude my fighting it as I imagine has been the case for former employees to leave this year.

stevew
06-02-2006, 01:30 PM
You should have just said

"Due to past injustices, I am unwilling to stay with your team."

Eaglesfan27
06-02-2006, 01:36 PM
You should have just said

"Due to past injustices, I am unwilling to stay with your team."


I was thinking of that right before the conversation ;)

JonInMiddleGA
06-02-2006, 01:51 PM
"Due to past injustices, I am unwilling to stay with your team."

I can see it now.
The boss goes off his rocker trying to figure out what this cryptic comment means ... and then he goes to EF's private practice to pay for help sorting it all out.

It's really a win-win if you think about it :D

judicial clerk
06-02-2006, 01:58 PM
Hey Eaglesfan27, don't lose too much sleep over this. The first time you sell-out is always the toughest. Pretty soon you will find selling out (along with back-stabbing, under cutting, and corporate shilling) is as easy as sliding into a warm bath. Welcome to the good life my white, suburban, McMansion brother.

Just kidding. Crongratulations on your move. It is never fun to work at an unstable job (ask ksyrup). A boss who will lay a guilt trip on you when you are making what is obviously the right decision is also the kind of boss who will leave you hanging when the next budget cut comes. Also, in a profession like yours, you are going to be helping people in need wherever you choose to work.

or maybe Im not kidding and I wish you would stop pushing your vodoo medicine on our society and do something productive with your life like making movies or working in a scientology re-education camp or something

I... I've said too much.

st.cronin
06-02-2006, 02:01 PM
I think everybody on the board knew this thread was coming. You can only keep a good man down for so long.

flere-imsaho
06-02-2006, 02:04 PM
You've made the right decision. Good luck!

Franklinnoble
06-02-2006, 02:16 PM
I'm just wondering about your boss' reaction and the whole loyalty-guilt-trip deal.

When you signed on a year ago (or whenever), were you given a signing bonus, or any other special financial consideration (payoff of school loans, whatever)?

If that's the case, then I'd say his feelings are a little more understandable. Otherwise, he's just being a jerk.

Eaglesfan27
06-02-2006, 02:18 PM
I'm just wondering about your boss' reaction and the whole loyalty-guilt-trip deal.

When you signed on a year ago (or whenever), were you given a signing bonus, or any other special financial consideration (payoff of school loans, whatever)?

If that's the case, then I'd say his feelings are a little more understandable. Otherwise, he's just being a jerk.\

No signing bonus. No other special financial consideration. It was a standard contract with a specification of a yearly salary for 40 hours/week of work with no call. The new job I took on after Katrina included Attending Call 6 days/week supervising residents. I asked for a raise since I was doing more work. I never got a raise.

finketr
06-02-2006, 02:19 PM
you should have pulled a TO and held out for more money...

however, it'd be interesting if they said "you signed a contract for $X so no raise" and then turn around and cut your pay even though you have acontract.

stevew
06-02-2006, 02:23 PM
Getting to see extra patients on the side would be pretty sweet for what I'm sure could be a mini financial boom for you.

This guy's got a lot of issues, he'll be here long enough to pay for an inground pool.

This person is really okay, but they insist on coming back despite my suggestions, I guess she'll pay for the PS3.

etc etc.

st.cronin
06-02-2006, 02:25 PM
you should have pulled a TO and held out for more money...

however, it'd be interesting if they said "you signed a contract for $X so no raise" and then turn around and cut your pay even though you have acontract.

Actually, they probably would have just changed his position to punter, and cut him.

Franklinnoble
06-02-2006, 02:40 PM
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No signing bonus. No other special financial consideration. It was a standard contract with a specification of a yearly salary for 40 hours/week of work with no call. The new job I took on after Katrina included Attending Call 6 days/week supervising residents. I asked for a raise since I was doing more work. I never got a raise.

Yeah, then your boss is just being an ass. And I still think you should talk to a lawyer if they slash your pay, just on principle.

BrianD
06-02-2006, 02:44 PM
I think everybody on the board knew this thread was coming. You can only keep a good man down for so long.

I know I was secretly hoping to see this thread. This will be a well-deserved move and hopefully it will lead to much happiness.

gkb
06-02-2006, 03:01 PM
Congrats on the new job and good luck. I haven't kept up with everything that's happened to you in your current position, but based on other's posts in this thread it seems to me like you're doing the best thing for you and your family.

oliegirl
06-02-2006, 03:08 PM
Congrats on the new job, it sounds like it's a great move for you and your family. I'm sure the guilts will pass and you'll give your boss the finger as you pull out of the parking lot for the last time :)

Fonzie
06-02-2006, 03:34 PM
Congratulations EF! And I'd echo the sentiments of the others here - in no way should you allow your old boss to make you feel guilty. That he's attempting to do so reflects very poorly on him and speaks to his unprofessionalism.

Best wishes in your new job!

Lorena
06-02-2006, 04:07 PM
he did a heck of a job laying a guilt trip on me.

What a relief it must be to not work for him anymore... what an ass.


However, I've asked for a raise several times and have been told no. I've been told that there was a chance my salary would be cut down. I've taken on growing number of responsibilities and titles in the last year, but no compensation has come with them.

Anytime a company adds more responisiblity with no extra pay, it lowers morale. The job I had in Phoenix was just like that: 4 people left in a span of 6 months and were never replaced; those responsibilities were given to the rest of the department (about 10 employees)... no one was happy and because of that, production was down.


I shouldn't feel guilty because I'm doing what is best for my family while still serving an important function to a community of underprivlidged people.

It's always tough to leave a place when you've invested so much of yourself... feeling guilty is completely natural. Hell, I've given numerous notices and it's never easy. As it gets closer to your last day, the guilt will wear off.

Good for you!! I'll be looking for your *today is my last day* thread to find out how it went :)

Best of luck EF27!!

Eaglesfan27
06-02-2006, 05:51 PM
My boss just came into my office at the end of the work day (I'm just about to leave.) He told me what a terrible mistake I'm making. He told me that they are only using grant money to hire me and that it will dry up in 18 months. It is true that I'm being hired with grant money, but they have assured me that they want me for the long term, and they will reallocate funds when the grant money dries up to keep me. He told me that I'm going to be screwed when the grant money runs out next year and I have no where to work. He told me that I could still rescind my resignation and stay.


All of the guilt I was feeling was just lifted from my shoulders. I can't wait to start the new job in July.

DaddyTorgo
06-02-2006, 06:03 PM
My boss just came into my office at the end of the work day (I'm just about to leave.) He told me what a terrible mistake I'm making. He told me that they are only using grant money to hire me and that it will dry up in 18 months. It is true that I'm being hired with grant money, but they have assured me that they want me for the long term, and they will reallocate funds when the grant money dries up to keep me. He told me that I'm going to be screwed when the grant money runs out next year and I have no where to work. He told me that I could still rescind my resignation and stay.


All of the guilt I was feeling was just lifted from my shoulders. I can't wait to start the new job in July.

tell your old boss to blow it out his ass. obviously. hell i wouldn't stay there now even if they paid me more (if i was you)

digamma
06-02-2006, 06:05 PM
Congrats and best of luck on the new gig.

Will you have the opportunity/ability to take a week or so in between gigs?

MizzouRah
06-02-2006, 06:12 PM
Missed this thread. Congratulations and good luck on your new job!!

I wish nothing but great things for you in the future EF. :)

Franklinnoble
06-02-2006, 06:40 PM
tell your old boss to blow it out his ass. obviously. hell i wouldn't stay there now even if they paid me more (if i was you)

Ditto. What a jackass.

Logan
06-02-2006, 07:09 PM
My boss just came into my office at the end of the work day (I'm just about to leave.) He told me what a terrible mistake I'm making. He told me that they are only using grant money to hire me and that it will dry up in 18 months. It is true that I'm being hired with grant money, but they have assured me that they want me for the long term, and they will reallocate funds when the grant money dries up to keep me. He told me that I'm going to be screwed when the grant money runs out next year and I have no where to work. He told me that I could still rescind my resignation and stay.


All of the guilt I was feeling was just lifted from my shoulders. I can't wait to start the new job in July.

I haven't followed your situation like many others on this board have, and you are clearly concerned about what would happen if your pay got cut in half...but if it was in any way financially plausible, I would tell him to fuck off and never go back. Enjoy a month long unpaid vacation. It'll be like you're a kid again.

Congrats on the new job. It's clear you're in a much better spot.

stevew
06-02-2006, 07:48 PM
My boss just came into my office at the end of the work day (I'm just about to leave.) He told me what a terrible mistake I'm making. He told me that they are only using grant money to hire me and that it will dry up in 18 months. It is true that I'm being hired with grant money, but they have assured me that they want me for the long term, and they will reallocate funds when the grant money dries up to keep me. He told me that I'm going to be screwed when the grant money runs out next year and I have no where to work. He told me that I could still rescind my resignation and stay.


All of the guilt I was feeling was just lifted from my shoulders. I can't wait to start the new job in July.

What a prick.

Eaglesfan27
06-02-2006, 08:05 PM
Congrats and best of luck on the new gig.

Will you have the opportunity/ability to take a week or so in between gigs?


I'm using 2 of my 4 unused vacation weeks the last 2 weeks of June. Also, the new job wants me to start at the beginning of a pay period, so I will be starting July 5th. So, I'll be off from June 17th until July 5th :cool:


Thanks to everyone for the kind words and well wishes :)

Franklinnoble
06-02-2006, 08:19 PM
I haven't followed your situation like many others on this board have, and you are clearly concerned about what would happen if your pay got cut in half...but if it was in any way financially plausible, I would tell him to fuck off and never go back. Enjoy a month long unpaid vacation. It'll be like you're a kid again.

Congrats on the new job. It's clear you're in a much better spot.

Problem is, EF27 won't stoop to that level... he's got patients he wants to take care of.

Logan
06-02-2006, 10:35 PM
Problem is, EF27 won't stoop to that level... he's got patients he wants to take care of.

Ah...forgot about the patient thing. Good man.

hoopsguy
06-02-2006, 10:49 PM
Sorry to hear that things are ending poorly. I've never had a job where the soon-to-be-former employer went out of their way to make things uncomfortable at the end like this person seems to be doing. Transitions are bumpy enough without that kind of acrimony thrown into the mix.

Hope you enjoy the stretch off between jobs and that the next gig is more satisfying for you than the last year has been.

Vinatieri for Prez
06-02-2006, 10:55 PM
The years of employee loyalty are long gone at the same time employer loyalty did. Employers mostly have no guilt letting people go, and you should have none letting them go. The simple fact is that your employer never offered you a contract for a certain period of time, but you were at will. It goes both ways. Your employer had the right to let you go at any time for no reason, and you are entitled to let them go at any time for no reason. That's the bargain. If they wanted security, they should have given you some. If they really wanted you to stay, then they should pay you and provide you benefits that will entice you to stay. If your employer won't, then you ought to leave. If they cut your salary, you should fuc#$in leave immediately. You're at will. For the most part, there is no requirement that you give any notice before leaving. And if they treat you like that in leaving, then rather than guilt, you should feel thrilled you're sticking it to them.

daedalus
06-03-2006, 08:35 AM
Nice solution with your vacation. Congratulations on the new job and the (seems to be) correct choice to take it. I'm glad you are able to keep the most important part to you (public sector) and still be able to switch job. Mrs EF27 should be plenty happy with this decision. :)

Okay, I'll be the one with the lack of class to say what some of us are thinking: Will this new job allow Alberto Flores to continue his exploit?!! :D :D :D

Flasch186
06-03-2006, 09:28 AM
im a little late to the party, but congrats EF!!!

TroyF
06-03-2006, 10:23 AM
I'm just wondering about your boss' reaction and the whole loyalty-guilt-trip deal.

When you signed on a year ago (or whenever), were you given a signing bonus, or any other special financial consideration (payoff of school loans, whatever)?

If that's the case, then I'd say his feelings are a little more understandable. Otherwise, he's just being a jerk.


I guess I fail to see the point of this. A signed contract is a signed contract. No matter what they offered or did, if EF fulfilled his bargain, who cares about what the guys feelings are? It's OK to be respectful or even have a little guilt then, but he'd be being a jerk regardless.

EF,

You needed to get the hell out of there for awhile now. Glad you finally cut bait. Best of Luck!!!

Franklinnoble
06-03-2006, 10:50 AM
I guess I fail to see the point of this. A signed contract is a signed contract. No matter what they offered or did, if EF fulfilled his bargain, who cares about what the guys feelings are? It's OK to be respectful or even have a little guilt then, but he'd be being a jerk regardless.

EF,

You needed to get the hell out of there for awhile now. Glad you finally cut bait. Best of Luck!!!

The point is, I know there are cases where teachers get considerations like this to take jobs in inner city areas in exchange for having their loans paid off, etc. I could sort of understand an employer feeling a little distraught over someone like that bolting at the first opportunity. I'm not saying he'd be any less of a jerk - a deal's a deal - but if that were the case, it would at least be somewhat easier to understand the guy's point of view.

sterlingice
06-03-2006, 11:19 AM
EF27, given everything that you have been saying for the past 9 months about how these people have been treating you, it is clear that they do not really value and respect you. Money is only one small part of it. You need this change and you deserve to work in an environment where you can be appreciated.

Echoing this one and good luck :)

SI

Eaglesfan27
06-03-2006, 12:57 PM
Nice solution with your vacation. Congratulations on the new job and the (seems to be) correct choice to take it. I'm glad you are able to keep the most important part to you (public sector) and still be able to switch job. Mrs EF27 should be plenty happy with this decision. :)

Okay, I'll be the one with the lack of class to say what some of us are thinking: Will this new job allow Alberto Flores to continue his exploit?!! :D :D :D

Not at work. In fact, I probably be on much less during the day time. However, I've been unhappy for a few months because of stuff at work. Hopefully, being more happy (I'll already feel almost giddy today), will lead to more playing of FM. As it has been, I've found myself searching for new and more challenging games to distract myself the last few months. So, indirectly, I think this job will allow me to continue the exploits of Flores :D

Axxon
06-03-2006, 01:25 PM
He told me that I was betraying his mentorship and that he desperately needed me at work now, but he couldn't even come close to matching the financial terms that I was offered at this other job.


I'd have told him that I was indeed showing the fruits of his mentorship. He desperately wants you to work for him but he made money more important than your services.

You desperately want to work for him but as he taught you, money is more important than working for him.

Then thank him for all the lessons he's imparted and say he's a wonderful mentor then hit him up for a loan. :D

terpkristin
06-03-2006, 01:30 PM
Congrats, Doc, on making a difficult decision and going through with it. I can't imagine being in your position, with loyalties and patients grabbing you on both sides.

In reading this thread and recalling your problems over the last year or so, even if you feel a bit guilty about it (and you shouldn't), I really do think you made a great decision
and I wish you the best of luck as you wind down from this job and move on to the next. :)

/tk

Eaglesfan27
06-03-2006, 01:31 PM
I'd have told him that I was indeed showing the fruits of his mentorship. He desperately wants you to work for him but he made money more important than your services.

You desperately want to work for him but as he taught you, money is more important than working for him.

Then thank him for all the lessons he's imparted and say he's a wonderful mentor then hit him up for a loan. :D


:D


Thanks again to everyone for the kind words and well wishes :)

Vinatieri for Prez
06-03-2006, 03:19 PM
The point is, I know there are cases where teachers get considerations like this to take jobs in inner city areas in exchange for having their loans paid off, etc. I could sort of understand an employer feeling a little distraught over someone like that bolting at the first opportunity. I'm not saying he'd be any less of a jerk - a deal's a deal - but if that were the case, it would at least be somewhat easier to understand the guy's point of view.

Nah, usually if this happens, the employee is required to agree to work for a certain period of time (like a year or two), so that is usually the consideration the employer gets for offering this.

Eaglesfan27
06-16-2006, 05:31 PM
Only 30 more working minutes at this job. I'm sure they are going to drag :(

After that, I start 2 weeks of vacation time. So far, I still haven't gotten notice that my pay is being cut in half. Everyone else who gave notice was told within 72 hours of giving notice that their salary was being cut. This gives me a tiny bit of hope that my salary might not be cut after all. In any case, I like a lot of my co-workers and will miss them, but otherwise I can't wait to be out of here :)

DaddyTorgo
06-16-2006, 05:35 PM
WHOOOO!!!! Hooray EF27!! Bet you can't wait, hopefully the last half hour flies by instead of drags.

AlexB
06-16-2006, 05:36 PM
Glad to see you're giving your all until the final whistle, and not slacking on some internet message board ;)

sabotai
06-16-2006, 05:53 PM
Some of the happiest days of my life have been the days where I told my jackass boss at a shitty job to go fuck himself and walked out.

I don't put them down on my job resume, though...

Pyser
06-16-2006, 08:59 PM
going anywhere for the 2 weeks, or working on the new house?

congrats, either way.

Eaglesfan27
06-16-2006, 10:10 PM
going anywhere for the 2 weeks, or working on the new house?

congrats, either way.

Doing stuff around the new house and hopefully enjoying Head Coach.

Izulde
06-16-2006, 10:14 PM
Congratulations, EF27! :)

Grammaticus
06-16-2006, 10:49 PM
Only 30 more working minutes at this job. I'm sure they are going to drag :(

After that, I start 2 weeks of vacation time. So far, I still haven't gotten notice that my pay is being cut in half. Everyone else who gave notice was told within 72 hours of giving notice that their salary was being cut. This gives me a tiny bit of hope that my salary might not be cut after all. In any case, I like a lot of my co-workers and will miss them, but otherwise I can't wait to be out of here :)
Good luck. Maybe the others got their salary cut because they broke their contract. Since you are completing yours, you may not have to deal with the pay cut at the wire.

Either way, when you move to Baton Rouge, please don't be an LSU fan.

Galaxy
06-16-2006, 10:53 PM
Nice. Are you in the new house?

Eaglesfan27
06-16-2006, 10:56 PM
How can I be an LSU fan when I root for USC. We were national champions ;)

Yes, I'm in the new house. We moved in mid May and I've been commuting 50 plus miles each way. Glad the commute is over :)

Grammaticus
06-16-2006, 11:07 PM
Alright, just checking on the LSU thing. But you cannot live in SEC country withoug supporting someone in the conference. So you may as well support Ole Miss, since we took Orgeron.

Galaxy
06-16-2006, 11:18 PM
Must of missed the new house thread.

Eaglesfan27
06-16-2006, 11:34 PM
Must of missed the new house thread.


Yup, it was posted about 2 months ago with an update about a month ago.

As far as supporting anyone in the SEC, not going to happen. I'll keep rooting for the Pac-10 to do well to make sure USC's strength of schedule is nice and high.

ShaefIllini
06-17-2006, 02:42 AM
congrats EF27

Eaglesfan27
06-30-2006, 01:05 PM
I'm extremely surprised and happy to find out that my previous place of employment (as of midnight tonight) did not cut my last month's salary as I feared they would do. There is a pending electronic deposit for my full salary according to my online banking right now :)

The only difference I can figure out between myself and the last 3 or 4 people that quit is that I served out the length of my full contract. Perhaps, that is why my salary wasn't cut in half for the last month. Whatever the reason, I have some extra money that I wasn't counting on.

Barkeep49
06-30-2006, 01:24 PM
I'm extremely surprised and happy to find out that my previous place of employment (as of midnight tonight) did not cut my last month's salary as I feared they would do. There is a pending electronic deposit for my full salary according to my online banking right now :)

The only difference I can figure out between myself and the last 3 or 4 people that quit is that I served out the length of my full contract. Perhaps, that is why my salary wasn't cut in half for the last month. Whatever the reason, I have some extra money that I wasn't counting on.
That seems like a fairly significant difference, actually. Whatever the reason (maybe your boss liked you better?) it's great news.

MizzouRah
06-30-2006, 02:30 PM
I'm extremely surprised and happy to find out that my previous place of employment (as of midnight tonight) did not cut my last month's salary as I feared they would do. There is a pending electronic deposit for my full salary according to my online banking right now :)

The only difference I can figure out between myself and the last 3 or 4 people that quit is that I served out the length of my full contract. Perhaps, that is why my salary wasn't cut in half for the last month. Whatever the reason, I have some extra money that I wasn't counting on.

Good for you!!

Young Drachma
06-30-2006, 02:33 PM
Good luck on the new job!

duckman
06-30-2006, 02:41 PM
Very good news, EF.

stevew
06-30-2006, 05:37 PM
More money for beer and strippers!

terpkristin
06-30-2006, 05:56 PM
More money for beer and strippers!

Or Grey Goose. ;)

Though you could also spend your money on Ciroc instead and make grape martinis. :) They are SOOOOOOOO good. :D

/tk

Eaglesfan27
06-30-2006, 05:58 PM
More money for beer and strippers!

Actually, we are going out to a comedy club tonight where I'm sure there will be plenty of beer and alcohol. Depending upon the wife's mood, maybe there will be strippers too ;)


Actually, I was going to put this in a new thread about the comedy club, but it ties in. I don't know if any of you watch Last Comic Standing, but we are going to see Chris Porter, who I think has been the funniest comedian on the show so far this season. I'm excited to be able to see more than just 3 minutes of his material.

Eaglesfan27
06-30-2006, 05:59 PM
Or Grey Goose. ;)

Though you could also spend your money on Ciroc instead and make grape martinis. :) They are SOOOOOOOO good. :D

/tk

I just bought another bottle of Grey Goose last night.

I'll have to try those grape martinis some time :)

CraigSca
06-30-2006, 06:03 PM
Sweet! Meet us back in the "Ping: Drunk Guy" thread later :D

Galaxy
06-30-2006, 06:54 PM
I've always picture doctors as very "old-school". Not you. :)

Galaxy
06-30-2006, 06:55 PM
Actually, we are going out to a comedy club tonight where I'm sure there will be plenty of beer and alcohol. Depending upon the wife's mood, maybe there will be strippers too ;)



Giggity, giggity, giggity.

cschex
06-30-2006, 07:16 PM
Yup, it was posted about 2 months ago with an update about a month ago.

As far as supporting anyone in the SEC, not going to happen. I'll keep rooting for the Pac-10 to do well to make sure USC's strength of schedule is nice and high.


Missed this earlier, but if you aren't going to root for my Tigers, good choice on not rooting for Old Miss. Damn Rebels...

You should try and attend a few games in Tiger Stadium, though. Congrats on the new job.

MizzouRah
06-30-2006, 07:54 PM
I just bought another bottle of Grey Goose last night.

I'll have to try those grape martinis some time :)

Ahhh.. the memories...

No more indo, gin and juice
I'm on my way to Chino, rollin on the grey goose
Shackled from head to toe
25 with an izzl, with nowhere to gizzo, I know
them niggaz from the other side recognize my face
Cuz it's the O.G. D-O-double-G, L-B-C
Mad doggin niggaz cuz I don't care
Red jumpsuit with two braids in my hair
Niggaz stare as I enter the center
They send me to a leval 3 yard, that's where I stay
Late night I hear toothbrushes scrapin on the floor
Niggaz gettin they shanks, just in case the war, pops off
Cuz you can't tell what's next
My little homey Baby Boo took a pencil in his neck
And he probably won't make it, to see twenty-two
I put that on my momma, I'ma ride for you Baby Boo

Eaglesfan27
06-30-2006, 08:03 PM
Missed this earlier, but if you aren't going to root for my Tigers, good choice on not rooting for Old Miss. Damn Rebels...

You should try and attend a few games in Tiger Stadium, though. Congrats on the new job.

Actually, I do plan on watching a few games at least in Tiger Stadium. One of my best friends is related to Skip, and he can get us EXCELLENT seats :)

Eaglesfan27
07-01-2006, 01:21 AM
Chris Porter is HILARIOUS! The best live comic I've ever seen. He had great material and he also improved with the audience very well including this one girl next to me in the 1st row who looked like a stripper/hooker. Speaking of which, I forgot how great the scenery is at a college bar. Although, I did feel a bit skeevy being a 31 year old guy in a college bar. At least, the act was a good reason to be there. Chocolatinis (sp?) are dangerous dangerous drinks. So smooth, I don't care if they are considered a chick drink, they were delicious. Wife and Wife's best friend wanted to do taco bell afterwards, which was a great night to finish off the night.

MizzouRah
07-01-2006, 10:17 AM
Oh yeah.. crunch wrap surpreme baby!!

stevew
07-01-2006, 10:34 AM
Oh yeah.. crunch wrap surpreme baby!!


That new spicy chicken one rocks

Galaxy
07-01-2006, 11:23 AM
Chris Porter is HILARIOUS! The best live comic I've ever seen. He had great material and he also improved with the audience very well including this one girl next to me in the 1st row who looked like a stripper/hooker. Speaking of which, I forgot how great the scenery is at a college bar. Although, I did feel a bit skeevy being a 31 year old guy in a college bar. At least, the act was a good reason to be there. Chocolatinis (sp?) are dangerous dangerous drinks. So smooth, I don't care if they are considered a chick drink, they were delicious. Wife and Wife's best friend wanted to do taco bell afterwards, which was a great night to finish off the night.


What's a Cocolatini?

MizzouRah
07-01-2006, 11:42 AM
That new spicy chicken one rocks

Indeed, although sometimes I crave that imitiation taco beef.

Eaglesfan27
07-01-2006, 01:51 PM
What's a Cocolatini?

A chocolatini (sp?) has chocolate vodka, godiva chocolate liqueur, and some other good stuff that I forget. I drank way too many of them last night, but it was a fun night. I forgot how amazing the scenery can be at a college bar. I stand by my statement that Chris Porter was hilarious even if a few of his bits we had already seen on Last Comic Standing. A fun night out :)


As far as Taco Bell, I regret that slightly since it kept me up for a few hours, but not too much since I was able to sleep in until 1:00 (although that makes me regret missing the England-Portugal match) but oh well :)