NHL™ Eastside Hockey Manager™ 2007 faces off for the new hockey season

[riz]

http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6461934525/m/5662006642


Pad up, sharpen your blades and prepare for the puck drop, Hockey’s most immersive management game returns for the new season.

LONDON & SAN FRANCISCO (August 8th, 2006) – SEGA Europe Ltd and SEGA of America Inc., are proud to announce NHL™: Eastside Hockey Manager™ 2007 for the PC and Mac. Developed by Sports Interactive, creators of the acclaimed Football Manager™ series, NHL™: Eastside Hockey Manager™ 2007 will be available exclusively via digital download from www.eastsidehockeymanager.net (http://www.eastsidehockeymanager.net) from September 22nd 2006 across Europe and America.

NHL™: Eastside Hockey Manager™ 2007 is an authentic ice hockey management game which offers an enhanced simulation experience and a brand new 2D game engine, bringing you even closer to the action of each nail biting game. New tactical settings now give you even greater control over your side’s playing style, with a plethora of additional options.

Will you take advantage of new tactical options for breakouts, forechecking and implementing zone systems to steer your franchise to Stanley Cup™ glory? Or will you place your faith in your designated playmakers and face-off takers to carry your team to World Championship victory?

“With over 20 playable leagues and a comprehensive player and team database, NHL™: Eastside Hockey Manager™ 2007 is an ideal way for you to prepare for your fantasy hockey season”, commented Marc Duffy of Sports Interactive. “We’re incredibly keen to ensure that as many hockey fans as possible have access to the game, which is why we are delighted to make the game available via digital download.”

Sports Interactive has been working to create a new and improved look and feel to the 2007 edition, with a new cutting edge interface to make navigation far simpler. NHL™ Eastside Hockey Manager™ 2007 allows you to manage your own franchise in leagues from around the world, including the NHL, AHL, DEL and Swedish leagues.

The database has been vastly expanded since last year, now boasting an incredible 45,000 players and staff at your disposal, with a shot stopping total of 3,000 teams from around the globe!

Key Features:
• Fantasy draft - build your very own dream team, fantasy-hockey style
• Brand new real-time 2D engine for coaching your games and reviewing the crucial highlights
• Improved draft recommendations from your staff, allowing you to make the most of your all-important draft selections
• New tactical options and the introduction of sliders, allowing you more variations to your tactical settings, giving you more control over your side’s playing style than ever.
• More variation and detail from your staff in their scouting reports to help you find the hottest young talent
• Additional trade options and feedback now available, allowing you full control at the negotiation table
• No excuses for not balancing the books with greater salary cap control and more information on individual cap hits

NHL™: Eastside Hockey Manager™ 2007 is slated for release across Europe and North America in September 2006 and is officially licensed by the National Hockey League and the National Hockey League Players’ Association.


There. Good things come to those who wait :)

[sabotai]

ugh, FINALLY...geez...


:D

[klayman]

is it ready yet?

is it ready yet?

is it ready yet?

[riz]

Some new screens up here aside from the textual information:
http://www.eastsidehockeymanager.net/index.php

[duff88]

This is wonderful and was worth the wait!!!

The site is slow though; screenshots are only downloading a 8ko seconds so it will take 10 minutes to download 4mo. :(

[General Mike]

Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HomerSimpson]

Any chance 2007 will feature a more web friendly MP version? Looking for a turn based offline Multi Player game.

Thanks.

[sachmo71]

oh, this is great news!

[MJ4H]

So the 2d-view will flow smoothly like in FM? If so, this is an auto-buy for me.

[King of New York]

Rock on, Riz.

The screenies look sweet. I can't wait to give the new 2D game engine a whirl, and to find out what the new leagues/teams are!

With EHM 2005, I won one championship in sixteen years with a Norwegian team (Bergen), and in eleven years with the Regina Pats, I never made it past the second round of the playoffs (although I did develop a satisfyingly brutal rivalry with Saskatoon, which resulted in a few memorable bench-clearing brawls.) I'm hoping for a big breakout with EHM 2007 :) But even if I don't have one, I'll keep playing.

[riz]

So the 2d-view will flow smoothly like in FM? If so, this is an auto-buy for me.

The 2D is real-time, simulating the action in 1/5th of a second slices and fiddling with the action speed controls, I'm sure you'll find a setting that suits your own taste. It's not right up to FM in the slice rate (1/8th of a sec) but we do have something they don't.....collision detection ;)

[Young Drachma]

I had a lot of fun with this last year, so I'm looking forward to it.

[scooter]

Riz, have you lined up your digital download partner yet? Are you staying with the old one or are you going to switch to something like eLicense **hint, hint, nudge, nudge, wink, wink**

[Pumpy Tudors]

Well, it's good to know that I have 6 more weeks with NCAA 2007 and will have a month with Madden before I surrender the rest of my year to SI.

gg guys

[Bea-Arthurs Hip]

Looks great! Very surprised to see the real time 2d engine.

Silly question for you Riz...Playing the newer versions of FM and the last version of EHM with the time elapsed 2d engine and even with the FM real time 2d. I think it would be a cool cosmetic feature to add spectators and stands to the graphics. I am not asking for an animated crowd but perhaps something to add flavor. Only reason I ask is I play out all my FM and EHM games which sometimes feel as though I am playing in an empty arena/stadium.....For lower divisions in FM and smaller leagues in EHM it could be one graphical display perhaps with fewer people shown and for the EPL/NHL etc...staduim/arena would be full.....

Silly I know but I am a sick man heavily addicted to FM/EHM and I think about wacky things like this.

[Marc Duffy]

Riz, have you lined up your digital download partner yet? Are you staying with the old one or are you going to switch to something like eLicense **hint, hint, nudge, nudge, wink, wink**
We're using Elicense for PC and Esellerate for Mac.

[moriarty]

Wow, screen shots look really good. I didn't see one with the 2d view yet (is it out there and I just missed it)?

I think with FM they released a short little video file showing the 2d view in action. I wouldn't mind seeing something like that as a little teaser. :)

[scooter]

We're using Elicense for PC and Esellerate for Mac.

Thank you for the quick answer. I'm really looking forward to this one!

[MizzouRah]

Wow, screen shots look really good. I didn't see one with the 2d view yet (is it out there and I just missed it)?

I think with FM they released a short little video file showing the 2d view in action. I wouldn't mind seeing something like that as a little teaser. :)

Still baffles me why more text sims don't have a 2d display to coincide with their game?

[moriarty]

Still baffles me why more text sims don't have a 2d display to coincide with their game?

I honestly hated the idea of a 2d view when FM first announced it (I felt it would ruin the immersion or something) ... now after several million hours of FM later, I feel very very foolish about that. :D

[Pumpy Tudors]

No teasers, no teasers, no teasers. I want this game too badly already, and if I want it much more, I'm going to have to go hurt somebody to release my aggression. :(

[MizzouRah]

I honestly hated the idea of a 2d view when FM first announced it (I felt it would ruin the immersion or something) ... now after several million hours of FM later, I feel very very foolish about that. :D

Watching those players in FPS Football games (albeit a bit more than 2d) were the best years of my gaming life. :(

[SackAttack]

Any chance 2007 will feature a more web friendly MP version? Looking for a turn based offline Multi Player game.

Thanks.

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[sabotai]

Still baffles me why more text sims don't have a 2d display to coincide with their game?

It's a pretty big task for a solo programmer to make a system that accurately displays what is happening on a 2D plane in real time. And pretty much impossible if the game doesn't use a physics based system when simulating the game (I'm 99% sure that FOF is not).

Not only does it take time to develop, every instance where AI breaks down or you need to fudge the physics in order to get realistic stats will be visible for all of your customers to see. That would pretty much kill most people's immersion in the game.

[moriarty]

It's a pretty big task for a solo programmer to make a system that accurately displays what is happening on a 2D plane in real time. And pretty much impossible if the game doesn't use a physics based system when simulating the game (I'm 99% sure that FOF is not).

Not only does it take time to develop, every instance where AI breaks down or you need to fudge the physics in order to get realistic stats will be visible for all of your customers to see. That would pretty much kill most people's immersion in the game.

Yeah, but as Mizzourah said if FPS could do it 10 years ago in an acceptable format (and maybe I'm remembering this through rose colored glasses) it's suprising more games don't have it now.

Anyways, just another reason why SI is the place for sports sims.

[Izulde]

Are we locked into the 1-20 rating scale or can we switch to a 1-100 rating scale?

[MizzouRah]

Yeah, but as Mizzourah said if FPS could do it 10 years ago in an acceptable format (and maybe I'm remembering this through rose colored glasses) it's suprising more games don't have it now.

Anyways, just another reason why SI is the place for sports sims.

Yeah, pretty much what I was saying.

[mooreadamc]

So this means that my FM2006 career will end September 22nd. Good news, can't wait for the 2D!

[riz]

Are we locked into the 1-20 rating scale or can we switch to a 1-100 rating scale?

It's been a config file option to turn on 1-100 ratings previously. This time it will also be in the game preferences inside the game itself.

[AgustusM]

Wow, screen shots look really good. I didn't see one with the 2d view yet (is it out there and I just missed it)?

I think with FM they released a short little video file showing the 2d view in action. I wouldn't mind seeing something like that as a little teaser. :)

I concur.

[DeToxRox]

Riz - I won';t be canceling the Dudesons now.

[Sweed]

The 2D is real-time, simulating the action in 1/5th of a second slices and fiddling with the action speed controls, I'm sure you'll find a setting that suits your own taste. It's not right up to FM in the slice rate (1/8th of a sec) but we do have something they don't.....collision detection ;)

Last year was my first year to buy EHM. To tell the truth I felt I would continue to play it for another year or two before buying another version. However
the sceenshot of the new 2d and knowing it will now be a smooth game, with collision detection to boot, is making this a must buy.

[Sweed]

We're using Elicense for PC and Esellerate for Mac.

Another reason this becomes an easy decision.

[MJ4H]

I am anxious to see a video of how smooth it is at 1/5 second slices as opposed to 1/8 second in FM. If it is irritating to watch that may be a problem. Is this difference noticeable to the eyes, riz? Is it choppy at all?

[riz]

I am anxious to see a video of how smooth it is at 1/5 second slices as opposed to 1/8 second in FM. If it is irritating to watch that may be a problem. Is this difference noticeable to the eyes, riz? Is it choppy at all?

It depends bit on your speed settings. Obviously, watching it on slow-mo will be a bit choppy, not like the old tactical board though, but personally I've found the normal 1x speed quite watchable, although I prefer 2x speed myself when watching a game live. Replays I watch on 1x speed afterwards if needed.

[Izulde]

It's been a config file option to turn on 1-100 ratings previously. This time it will also be in the game preferences inside the game itself.

Fantastic news! :) I know it's a small thing to most people but games are so much more enjoyable to me when I can have a 1-100 rating scale.

[Easy Mac]

Is the TM after every team going to be in the game. I think we as a consumer are smart enough to know who does and doesn't own the rights to names and what not. Not really a shot at you guys, its just something that would annoy me if I played.

[DaddyTorgo]

dammit riz. way to deliver on the real-time 2d. now i'm going to have to buy when i was thinking of skipping a year!

[MJ4H]

I agree the TM has always annoyed me too.

[Karim]

I've already received a question from other hockey fans: Will the salary cap fluctuate up and down depending on league revenues?

[NoSkillz]

I agree the TM has always annoyed me too.

I'm quite certain there will be an editor out that allows you to delete the trademark symbol. That's what I did last year, in addition to changing the team names to the city name from the nickname.

[Joe Canadian]

I've already received a question from other hockey fans: Will the salary cap fluctuate up and down depending on league revenues?

I believe they've already said that it will not fluctuate...

[Joe Canadian]

Any chance we might see better reports... like the one's I tried to make with last years version? http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=804047&postcount=21

[riz]

I've already received a question from other hockey fans: Will the salary cap fluctuate up and down depending on league revenues?

A fluctuating cap based on revenues is all fine and dandy in real life when the life span of the CBA is only a couple of years, before they can revise things to compensate for escalating salaries, inflation etc. Even if we could model all the revenue streams for NHL clubs to calculate realistic league wide finances, it would be quite a task to try and come up with a financial model that would be realistic enough over a span of say a 100 seasons to allow for a dynamic cap that would fluctuate in reasonable amounts over time while also effecting dynamically on the player salary fluctuation. Yes, it'd be easy to make it go up/down randomly every few years, but I don't really see the point in that. Naturally some people would love to have the cap go up a bit every year, so they would not face heavy decisions on which of their budding young stars to keep when they start asking for more dough :)

[Capital]

A fluctuating cap based on revenues is all fine and dandy in real life when the life span of the CBA is only a couple of years, before they can revise things to compensate for escalating salaries, inflation etc. Even if we could model all the revenue streams for NHL clubs to calculate realistic league wide finances, it would be quite a task to try and come up with a financial model that would be realistic enough over a span of say a 100 seasons to allow for a dynamic cap that would fluctuate in reasonable amounts over time while also effecting dynamically on the player salary fluctuation. Yes, it'd be easy to make it go up/down randomly every few years, but I don't really see the point in that. Naturally some people would love to have the cap go up a bit every year, so they would not face heavy decisions on which of their budding young stars to keep when they start asking for more dough :)
Good call...as an individual thinking heavily about buying this product, I think this is a smart decision. That way, one can fine tune the AI to accurately manage their teams based upon one model. It should increase the AIs ability.

[Icy]

Looks really nice, and finally using elicense, it means a secure purchase from me.

[Johnny93g]

A fluctuating cap based on revenues is all fine and dandy in real life when the life span of the CBA is only a couple of years, before they can revise things to compensate for escalating salaries, inflation etc. Even if we could model all the revenue streams for NHL clubs to calculate realistic league wide finances, it would be quite a task to try and come up with a financial model that would be realistic enough over a span of say a 100 seasons to allow for a dynamic cap that would fluctuate in reasonable amounts over time while also effecting dynamically on the player salary fluctuation. Yes, it'd be easy to make it go up/down randomly every few years, but I don't really see the point in that. Naturally some people would love to have the cap go up a bit every year, so they would not face heavy decisions on which of their budding young stars to keep when they start asking for more dough :)


I personally would think it is cool to see the cap go up and down randomally in this game. As long as it works right. None the less, im looking forward to giving this a spin as always. I may even buy this version!!!

[GoldenEagle]

I think this will be my first version of EHM to purchase.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Excellent news! A nice thing to come back to after a short vacation.

Can't wait.

[riz]

The official website has now gone fully live at:
http://www.eastsidehockeymanager.net/

We're doing some developer blogs, researcher articles and naturally new screenshots on the website, so keep your eyes open ! :)

[riz]

Six new screenshots up now, detailing some of the new tactical options for example:

http://www.eastsidehockeymanager.net/screenshots.php?view=all&gid=24&&m=09&y=2006

[Honolulu_Blue]

Lookin' good, rizzo.

[Icy]

The new startegies screen looks great, reminds me the old "with/without ball" tactics screen in CM where you setup where do you want your players depending on where is the ball (puck in this case). Looking forward to buy this one, the 2D view must be fun to watch, any chance of making a small video of it in action Riz?

[Joe Canadian]

Riz or Marc,

Will there be a preorder special with EHM 2007 like there was with OOTP?

[Galaril]

Demo soon?

[Joe Canadian]

Demo soon?

It's gonna be digital download this year... so the game will be "Try & Buy" like OOTP on release day.

[bhlloy]

Very interesting (from the screenshots I assume anyway) that defining the positioning of your players when the puck is in different areas of the ice is in the game. I seem to remember the same concept pretty much ruining the tactical aspect of Championship Manager one year as a) it was completely exploitable and b) if you didnt' want to sit down and program every players moves in every area of the pitch your team didn't play to it's potential.

I'm hoping this isn't the exact same implementation, because I'm not looking for a game that goes into that much detail. For me, the reason EHM is such a great sim is that I can put so much time into scouting and developing players, and don't have to worry about tactics so much. If my good team is going to suck unless I make 30 minutes of tactical changes every two weeks then my interest in the game goes way down.

Of course, if I can just be the GM this year and turn the tactics over to my coach without him making crazy decisions, EHM would be my favourite sports sim ever. No game has even come close in the scouting and development and building a system departments.

[riz]

Very interesting (from the screenshots I assume anyway) that defining the positioning of your players when the puck is in different areas of the ice is in the game. I seem to remember the same concept pretty much ruining the tactical aspect of Championship Manager one year as a) it was completely exploitable and b) if you didnt' want to sit down and program every players moves in every area of the pitch your team didn't play to it's potential.

I'm hoping this isn't the exact same implementation, because I'm not looking for a game that goes into that much detail. For me, the reason EHM is such a great sim is that I can put so much time into scouting and developing players, and don't have to worry about tactics so much. If my good team is going to suck unless I make 30 minutes of tactical changes every two weeks then my interest in the game goes way down.

Of course, if I can just be the GM this year and turn the tactics over to my coach without him making crazy decisions, EHM would be my favourite sports sim ever. No game has even come close in the scouting and development and building a system departments.

It's not the exact same implementation. See the zonal setting dropdowns below that rink ? That's the stuff that controls the player positioning :)

[bhlloy]

OK... a visual representation of your settings then? That's a pretty cool feature.

Any word on how improved the coach AI is going to be? :)

[riz]

OK... a visual representation of your settings then? That's a pretty cool feature.

Any word on how improved the coach AI is going to be? :)

Yeah, you select the tactics and can observe their effects on the player movement/placement at the top.

As for the coaching AI, I've tried to hone it this year and am still in the process of honing it even more. This weekend I've been playing with the Swedish Allsvenskan (second tier) and just GM'ing and setting the lines, leaving the coach to handle coaching while I just watch the games and curse/rejoice :) In the shared lead of the league after first ten games and nothing major to complain about my coaches doings so far.

[bhlloy]

Sounds very promising - screenshots look great.

[dervack]

It's gonna be digital download this year... so the game will be "Try & Buy" like OOTP on release day.
Well, OOTP's demo wasn't out on release day, so let's hope this one is.

[Galaril]

Well, OOTP's demo wasn't out on release day, so let's hope this one is.

Yeah, why does the games distribution method matter to when a demo for it can be out? I remember demo's out before release FM and EHM or maybe I am mistaken.

[Marc Duffy]

Riz or Marc,

Will there be a preorder special with EHM 2007 like there was with OOTP?
Yep, should be up next week.

[Marc Duffy]

Yeah, why does the games distribution method matter to when a demo for it can be out? I remember demo's out before release FM and EHM or maybe I am mistaken.
With digitally distributed games, we dont put out a demo unless it's wrapped to allow for a purchase. In the old days, when all we had was boxed product this was not an issue.

Plus of course with boxed product the game is gold mastered around a month before the game actually comes out but with digital this gap is a lot lot less.

[jbmagic]

Is the demo going to have a time limit like ootp is?

[Galaril]

With digitally distributed games, we dont put out a demo unless it's wrapped to allow for a purchase. In the old days, when all we had was boxed product this was not an issue.

Plus of course with boxed product the game is gold mastered around a month before the game actually comes out but with digital this gap is a lot lot less.

Thanks for that.

[Marc Duffy]

Is the demo going to have a time limit like ootp is?
Yep

[jbmagic]

Yep


how many days wil the demo last?

[Izulde]

Yeah, you select the tactics and can observe their effects on the player movement/placement at the top.

As for the coaching AI, I've tried to hone it this year and am still in the process of honing it even more. This weekend I've been playing with the Swedish Allsvenskan (second tier) and just GM'ing and setting the lines, leaving the coach to handle coaching while I just watch the games and curse/rejoice :) In the shared lead of the league after first ten games and nothing major to complain about my coaches doings so far.

Good to hear, since I prefer Pure GM-style mode.

[Marc Duffy]

There is no limit on the demo, you can play six months in-game as many times as you wish

[jbmagic]

There is no limit on the demo, you can play six months in-game as many times as you wish

Thanks. Thats good news. I hope OOTP will go that direction in the future too.

[riz]

Seven new screenshots today:

http://www.eastsidehockeymanager.net/screenshots.php?view=all&gid=24&&m=09&y=2006

[sachmo71]

Is anyone else having very slow download times for the images on the eastside site?

[Honolulu_Blue]

Is anyone else having very slow download times for the images on the eastside site?

Yes.

[Sweed]

Is anyone else having very slow download times for the images on the eastside site?

Yes, me too. I start a tab for each in firefox and then save them to disk so I can look at them whenever without having to go back through the d'load prodedure.

[sachmo71]

Well that sucks. I also want to point out that the slowness frustrated me enough that I stopped trying to mess with it. You guys already will get my money for this, so no harm done, but for the fringe purchasers, you might want to stick the images on a faster server.

[dervack]

Yeah, I gave up after trying to load the first picture.

[lynchjm24]

Looks like it might be good, I'll never find out for myself though due to my dissatisfaction with OOTP.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Looks like it might be good, I'll never find out for myself though due to my dissatisfaction with OOTP.

A shame. This is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[lynchjm24]

A shame. This is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

It might be, but I think at this point all I can do is talk with my wallet. I can't support SI until they live up to their promises on OOTP. Buying this game is only continuing to support a company I'm very disappointed in.

[Marc Duffy]

lynchjm24 : you lose nothing by trying a free demo.

[Marc Duffy]

Our servers are taking a hammering at the moment due to some FM2007 stuff going on.

I'll see what I can do.

[Icy]

Our servers are taking a hammering at the moment due to some FM2007 stuff going on.

I'll see what I can do.

You should talk with your hosting techs to setup different servers on different pipelines for the SI website, forums, for the downloads, screenshoots, etc so if you have a big traffic day after a release or after posting some new screenshoots, you won't have your whole website down.

A good configured server is more than enought just for the main website (separate from downloads and images). I have some sites with over 300,000 visitors per day and zero downtime using a setup like that.

[Icy]

Crap, i see i just used my 2000 post for that comment, i wanted it something special for it, will need to wait until 3000 now :D

[sachmo71]

You should talk with your hosting techs to setup different servers on different pipelines for the SI website, forums, for the downloads, screenshoots, etc so if you have a big traffic day after a release or after posting some new screenshoots, you won't have your whole website down.

A good configured server is more than enought just for the main website (separate from downloads and images). I have some sites with over 300,000 visitors per day and zero downtime using a setup like that.

This post was more important than you can possibly imagine. Congrats on 2k! :)

[Sweed]

Looks like it might be good, I'll never find out for myself though due to my dissatisfaction with OOTP.

A shame. This is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

It might be, but I think at this point all I can do is talk with my wallet. I can't support SI until they live up to their promises on OOTP. Buying this game is only continuing to support a company I'm very disappointed in.

I'm not trying to be a smartass, this is an honest question.

You buy and play PureSim from Matrix games who took money for Maximum Football.

But you won't let yourself buy EHM, though you seem to think you would like it, because SI takes money for OOTP.

Am I missing someting here?

[jbmagic]

I'm not trying to be a smartass, this is an honest question.

You buy and play PureSim from Matrix games who took money for Maximum Football.

But you won't let yourself buy EHM, though you seem to think you would like it, because SI takes money for OOTP.

Am I missing someting here?

lynchjm24 was a betatester for Puresim.

[MizzouRah]

If I used that same reasoning, I guess I won't get NHL 07 or any other EA game ever again.

Jeez.....

[sabotai]

Crap, i see i just used my 2000 post for that comment, i wanted it something special for it, will need to wait until 3000 now :D

Ahhh, 2000 posts. I can't even remember when I was that young. :D

[sabotai]

I'm not trying to be a smartass, this is an honest question.

You buy and play PureSim from Matrix games who took money for Maximum Football.

But you won't let yourself buy EHM, though you seem to think you would like it, because SI takes money for OOTP.

Am I missing someting here?

To play devil's advotcate, all Matrix did was publish PureSim and Maximum Turdball, and didn't have a role in the developement of either title at all. While SI had more of a role in the developement of OOTP (but aside from handing over a bunch of code to Markus and his crew to play with, I'm not sure if they really had much of a hand in the actual developement of OOTP7).

[Sweed]

To play devil's advotcate, all Matrix did was publish PureSim and Maximum Turdball, and didn't have a role in the developement of either title at all. While SI had more of a role in the developement of OOTP (but aside from handing over a bunch of code to Markus and his crew to play with, I'm not sure if they really had much of a hand in the actual developement of OOTP7).


I thought about that but don't both companies make money off the games? To carry on the arguement I could say that Matrix pimped someone's POS game knowing it sucked and had no chance of getting better to make money while SI is selling something they have made (with Markus and his regular ootp crew doing the coding) that has a track record of being a very good game.

But what I am really trying to get at is this "I won't buy a game A from FirmX becasue they also produce game B". I really don't understand this at all. It was the same with PS and Max Football. Some said they wouldn't buy PS because of Max. The real person getting hurt is Shaun while you are doing nothing to hurt Winters(?) and missing a good game in the process.

Same thing here if lynchjm24 doesn't like what oopt has become or how it has slighted him. In my mind he's missing what may be a great game (his loss), taking sales away from Riz (Riz's loss) and not hurting Markus in anyway since his salary is based on ootp sales (my assumption).

I'm not saying he shouldn't buy from Matrix, I'm trying to understand why he won't buy from SI when both firms have games he wants and both make money off games he thinks (again my assumption) don't live up to what the companies said they should be.

Maybe I'm missing something?

[riz]

Aaaand in other news:

The first part of my little blog about the development of the 2D engine has been set up on the website now. It offers a little look back on the road we've travelled with the game engine through the years:

http://www.eastsidehockeymanager.net/the_locker_room.php?news=view&id=1245

More stories and screenshots are coming, and if there is something about the screenshots already up there that you want to ask about, just shoot :)

[Pumpy Tudors]

I refuse to even look at the screenshots because I'm not receiving a paycheck for a month, so I won't be able to afford the game when release day comes. I'll be purchasing in October, though! :D

[jbmagic]

Maybe I'm missing something?

Again lynchjm24 was a betatester for Puresim. He received the game for free for betaesting.

[Sweed]

Again lynchjm24 was a betatester for Puresim. He received the game for free for betaesting.


No, he didn't get it for free. He had to "work" to get the game.

So the question still applies..

I'm not trying to be a smartass, this is an honest question.

You buy (or provide free labor to get) and play PureSim from Matrix games who took money for Maximum Football.

But you won't let yourself buy EHM, though you seem to think you would like it, because SI takes money for OOTP.

But what I am really trying to get at is this "I won't buy a game A from FirmX becasue they also produce game B". I really don't understand this at all. It was the same with PS and Max Football. Some said they wouldn't buy PS because of Max. The real person getting hurt is Shaun while you are doing nothing to hurt Winters(?) and missing a good game in the process.

Same thing here if lynchjm24 doesn't like what oopt has become or how it has slighted him. In my mind he's missing what may be a great game (his loss), taking sales away from Riz (Riz's loss) and not hurting Markus in anyway since his salary is based on ootp sales (my assumption).

I'm not saying he shouldn't buy from Matrix, I'm trying to understand why he won't buy from SI when both firms have games he wants and both make money off games he thinks (again my assumption) don't live up to what the companies said they should be.


Am I missing someting here?

[lynchjm24]

I'm not trying to be a smartass, this is an honest question.

You buy and play PureSim from Matrix games who took money for Maximum Football.

But you won't let yourself buy EHM, though you seem to think you would like it, because SI takes money for OOTP.

Am I missing someting here?

I think it's a very different situation. Matrix seems to me to just be a loose band of individual developers who have come under the same distribution umbrella. Matrix isn't influencing the development of the game. SI might have brought in 2 outside independent developers but they are clearly developing the games in their mold.

Now, I agree that Matrix did take money on Maximum Football, but anyone who followed the game at all and still ponied up should see a doctor. If someone bought that game without doing any research then they have a right to be upset, if you read one post anywhere and bought it then you probably have to look in the mirror.

I have just grown tired of paying for incomplete games which have oversold features a la OOTP 2006. Until the consumers talk with their money nothing is going to change. I know that me not buying this game is a drop in the bucket, but to me it's the right thing to do and I'm done buying these games until they are finished.

[lynchjm24]

If I used that same reasoning, I guess I won't get NHL 07 or any other EA game ever again.

Jeez.....

If enough people used that reasoning none of this would have happened. As long as people buy games like NFL Coach nothing is going to change.

[scooter]

For those that are interested in purchasing the game, the pre-order is now active on the game's website:

http://www.eastsidehockeymanager.net/main.php

I am wondering if there will be a pre-order discount though (like they did with OOTP). Maybe one of the SI guys could enlighten us. As it stands right now, it's $34.99.

[sachmo71]

For those that are interested in purchasing the game, the pre-order is now active on the game's website:

http://www.eastsidehockeymanager.net/main.php

I am wondering if there will be a pre-order discount though (like they did with OOTP). Maybe one of the SI guys could enlighten us. As it stands right now, it's $34.99.

sounds like $5 off to me...didn't someone say $39.99 at some point?

[Icy]

Again different price for us europeans or same than in USA? i must admit it really pissed me of to pay more for OOTP2k6 that i would have if lived in USA.

[Icy]

Dola, just checked it: Price: € 29.99

So more or less the same, i won't complain this time when OOTP2k6 is 39.99€

[Icy]

Double dola.

Shit, i'm a text sims addict, just preordered it :)

[FrogMan]

Double dola.

Shit, i'm a text sims addict, just preordered it :)


LOL!!! :D

Aren't we all?

FM

[FrogMan]

dola, I'm tempted to preorder FM2007 only by starting reading their development blog and I've never preordered anything before in my life. Damn, release is about 3 months away!!!

FM

[Icy]

dola, I'm tempted to preorder FM2007 only by starting reading their development blog and I've never preordered anything before in my life. Damn, release is about 3 months away!!!

FM

I hope there will be an elicense version too, i hate to wait until the game is at the shops in Spain. FM is a secure purchase by me every year since CM97-98.

[Sweed]

I think it's a very different situation. Matrix seems to me to just be a loose band of individual developers who have come under the same distribution umbrella. Matrix isn't influencing the development of the game. SI might have brought in 2 outside independent developers but they are clearly developing the games in their mold.

Now, I agree that Matrix did take money on Maximum Football, but anyone who followed the game at all and still ponied up should see a doctor. If someone bought that game without doing any research then they have a right to be upset, if you read one post anywhere and bought it then you probably have to look in the mirror.

I have just grown tired of paying for incomplete games which have oversold features a la OOTP 2006. Until the consumers talk with their money nothing is going to change. I know that me not buying this game is a drop in the bucket, but to me it's the right thing to do and I'm done buying these games until they are finished.

Thanks for the reply. I still think that just not buying OOTP gets your point across, obviously you don't agree. And as they use to say on Seinfeld "there's nothing wrong with that":)

It just seems to me if you tried the ehm demo and if you found it enjoyable and a comlete game in the end you really hurt yourself and Riz,a gamemaker that IS puting out a "finished"(at least for the sake of this discussion, we won't really know until sept 22) game . Too me in all honesty I don't see where either SI or Matrix fit in on making any decision on what to buy. Too me we should reward the gamemaker that puts out a good product.

Anyway thanks again for the reply, we'll have to agree to disagree. I do understand what you are getting at and there's nothing wrong with sticking to what you think is the "right thing to do".

[Sweed]

Is anyone else having very slow download times for the images on the eastside site?

Just checked it out today and the speed is much improved. I'm on high speed cable and pictures are loading in about 4-5 seconds. Not great but viewable and I'll bet they were taking over a minute a couple of days ago.

[lynchjm24]

Thanks for the reply. I still think that just not buying OOTP gets your point across, obviously you don't agree. And as they use to say on Seinfeld "there's nothing wrong with that":)

It just seems to me if you tried the ehm demo and if you found it enjoyable and a comlete game in the end you really hurt yourself and Riz,a gamemaker that IS puting out a "finished"(at least for the sake of this discussion, we won't really know until sept 22) game . Too me in all honesty I don't see where either SI or Matrix fit in on making any decision on what to buy. Too me we should reward the gamemaker that puts out a good product.

Anyway thanks again for the reply, we'll have to agree to disagree. I do understand what you are getting at and there's nothing wrong with sticking to what you think is the "right thing to do"..

One other difference is that Markus is an employee of SI, Shaun doesn't work for Matrix.

I'm a big talker though, so if the game is getting raves here I'm not going to stay away. I'm not getting this one until it's finished though, I fell for the TRTR and I'm not going to do that again....

[Draft Dodger]

For those that are interested in purchasing the game, the pre-order is now active on the game's website:

http://www.eastsidehockeymanager.net/main.php

I am wondering if there will be a pre-order discount though (like they did with OOTP). Maybe one of the SI guys could enlighten us. As it stands right now, it's $34.99.

there's some info in SI's forums from Duffy.
http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=21019056&f=6461934525&m=8042038352&r=3952099352#3952099352

short answer - discount offers will be sent out this weekend. "Discount offers will only get sent to registered members of the SI website (who opt to get EHM info sent to them)." Note that registering on SI's website is different than registering on SI's forums.

[scooter]

Thanks DD. I've been hanging around over there most of the day - I saw that info too. I'm now trying to figure out if I checked the box to get info on EHM back 4 years ago when I registered. It sounds like I'll just have to wait and see if I get the "invite" email. If not, $35 is still reasonable for a game that, by going on the past versions, will get plenty of play ;)

[sachmo71]

there's some info in SI's forums from Duffy.
http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=21019056&f=6461934525&m=8042038352&r=3952099352#3952099352

short answer - discount offers will be sent out this weekend. "Discount offers will only get sent to registered members of the SI website (who opt to get EHM info sent to them)." Note that registering on SI's website is different than registering on SI's forums.

Yes, I had to re-register at the site, because when you log in, there are spaces that say you can click on them to change your profile and game interests, but there are no links. So hopefully others will figure it out, and their regs will go way up, making the game seem that much more popular! WHOOT! :D

[Marc Duffy]

Thanks DD. I've been hanging around over there most of the day - I saw that info too. I'm now trying to figure out if I checked the box to get info on EHM back 4 years ago when I registered. It sounds like I'll just have to wait and see if I get the "invite" email. If not, $35 is still reasonable for a game that, by going on the past versions, will get plenty of play ;)
Drop me a line with your details and I'll look you up.

[Icy]

there's some info in SI's forums from Duffy.
http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=21019056&f=6461934525&m=8042038352&r=3952099352#3952099352

short answer - discount offers will be sent out this weekend. "Discount offers will only get sent to registered members of the SI website (who opt to get EHM info sent to them)." Note that registering on SI's website is different than registering on SI's forums.

So i get penalized without discount for preordering it before the weekend? How nice, i thought it was a good faith act from me to preorder yesterday.
Not really important to save a few € as i get tons of fun from SI games, but not a really good decission imho to put the link to preorder and announce it and once some of us preorder then you announce a discount...lesson learned from me i guess.

[Pumpy Tudors]

So i get penalized without discount for preordering it before the weekend? How nice, i thought it was a good faith act from me to preorder yesterday.
Not really important to save a few € as i get tons of fun from SI games, but not a really good decission imho to put the link to preorder and announce it and once some of us preorder then you announce a discount...lesson learned from me i guess.
Maybe I'm remembering things incorrectly, but I think I've seen other people have similar complaints with SI about previous games (OOTP 2006 in particular, I guess). The timing of the discount offers just seems a little bit "off" to me. I'm not a marketing guy or anything, but that's my perception of the whole deal. Personally, I just figure that I'm going to pay full price for these games, and if I ever get to take advantage of a discount, I'll just consider myself lucky.

[Marc Duffy]

The product had to appear in the store in order for us to finalise the testing.

THe OOTP problem was due to the fact that the store went live and a mailshot went out but those who purchased before the mail arrived didnt get a discount (as they didn't have any code to enter). That was a little different.

[Pumpy Tudors]

The product had to appear in the store in order for us to finalise the testing.

THe OOTP problem was due to the fact that the store went live and a mailshot went out but those who purchased before the mail arrived didnt get a discount (as they didn't have any code to enter). That was a little different.
Regardless of the reasons, the timing of the discounts just unsettles me. If I remember correctly, there was a preorder discount for OOTP months before the game was released (maybe even months before a release date was set). Then, the game got moved up to full price and was apparently buggy as hell. in comes the All-Star break, the game has had a significant patch or two, and now there's another discount. It seems to me that the pricing scheme was very unfortunate for the people who didn't order many weeks in advance or who ordered while the game was going through its early bug-ridden post-release stage.

Anyway, this won't stop me from buying EHM 2007 or FM 2007 or maybe even OOTP 2007. The discounts just don't seem like a "bonus" to me. They only seem like the luck of the draw, and if I get lucky, so be it. It's like having a slot machine dispense a few quarters at me. It's nice to win, but I don't expect it.

[sachmo71]

Regardless of the reasons, the timing of the discounts just unsettles me. If I remember correctly, there was a preorder discount for OOTP months before the game was released (maybe even months before a release date was set). Then, the game got moved up to full price and was apparently buggy as hell. in comes the All-Star break, the game has had a significant patch or two, and now there's another discount. It seems to me that the pricing scheme was very unfortunate for the people who didn't order many weeks in advance or who ordered while the game was going through its early bug-ridden post-release stage.

Anyway, this won't stop me from buying EHM 2007 or FM 2007 or maybe even OOTP 2007. The discounts just don't seem like a "bonus" to me. They only seem like the luck of the draw, and if I get lucky, so be it. It's like having a slot machine dispense a few quarters at me. It's nice to win, but I don't expect it.

Pumpy, all I can say is that working at an internet company has really opened my eyes as to how discounting works. Granted, I work in a subscription business, but I think the same principles must hold true to some degree, and that is that often, discount offerings are not very standardized.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Pumpy, all I can say is that working at an internet company has really opened my eyes as to how discounting works. Granted, I work in a subscription business, but I think the same principles must hold true to some degree, and that is that often, discount offerings are not very standardized.
I understand. I suppose I'm not really surprised. I just wish for things, and they're not always possible. :)

[Icy]

The product had to appear in the store in order for us to finalise the testing.

But at least you could have told us to wait until the weekend to purchase it if it was just a test. I purchased it yesterday to give SI my full support and i see now that i should have waited 3 days to get a discount, do you see it fair? i don't. I don't mind when a discount is offered 2 months after i buy a game, it's a good marketing practice and i underestand it, but 3 days after i preorder? come on, you just are telling me that i was a stupid for doing it and that i shouldn't next time.

Again it's not about saving 5€ but that yesterday i felt proud of supporting a text sim company and today i feel a stupid for doing it.

[Marc Duffy]

It's not a test as such, it was just that we needed to finish up our side and had to put the product live in order to do that bit.

Your not stupid by any means. There will be many people who do not get the discount codes (there are sent only to our various databases)

Apologies for the problems.

[riz]

Some news from the good people at ECHL.com:

Newest SEGA Game Includes ECHL Players
http://www.echl.com/cgi-bin/mpublic.cgi?action=show_news&cat=1&id=8608

[Honolulu_Blue]

Good work, fellas.

[Fouts]

I just pre-ordered EHM 2k7 and I'm not a real big hockey fan. I am a big fan of text sims, and multiple choices of where and how to use my GM skills.

[King of New York]

SI confirms that this year there is a license for the CHL (not to be confused with the ECHL):

hxxp://community.sigames.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6461934525/m/2072076552

Now we just need one for the UHL :)

But I'll manage to content myself with the following: in one week, I assume GM duties for the Bossier-Shreveport Mudbugs.

[Pumpy Tudors]

It's good to see the ECHL and CHL in. The UHL would be awesome, because that would get all of the "big" American minor leagues in. The ECHL and CHL are good enough, though. I guess I wouldn't need to GM the UHL's Missouri River Otters or Motor City Mechanics.

[Dutch]

SI confirms that this year there is a license for the CHL (not to be confused with the ECHL):

hxxp://community.sigames.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6461934525/m/2072076552

Now we just need one for the UHL :)

But I'll manage to content myself with the following: in one week, I assume GM duties for the Bossier-Shreveport Mudbugs.

Are you a Mudbug fan?

I spent the last few years living just down the road from the Mudbug stadium and absolutely loved watching games there. The Riverdogs (Memphis?) were in town and on the opening face-off a fight broke out. Both benches cleared in an all-out brawl and the penalty box was a no-sitting area for the first 5 minutes of the game. Good stuff. Lower level Ice Hockey is where it's at.

[Capital]

Are you able to simulate a week/month at a time in previous versions of EHM? I have not played previous versions of this game.

I'm considering making the purchase but having to play all 80+ games like you somewhat have to in FM series seems daunting in order to play a season. The soccer season has about half as many games so it's not quite so many.

[Joe Canadian]

Are you able to simulate a week/month at a time in previous versions of EHM? I have not played previous versions of this game.

I'm considering making the purchase but having to play all 80+ games like you somewhat have to in FM series seems daunting in order to play a season. The soccer season has about half as many games so it's not quite so many.

You have to sim through every day of the year one at a time, there is no "Sim Week" or "Sim Month" option. As daunting as that sounds, it really is a necessity with how the game works and doesn't feel daunting at all since there is something to do almost daily. I usually get through a month a day when I'm playing EHM regularly.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I have made my pre-order purchase.

[Icy]

I have a 10% discount cupon if any of you want it. I already preordered it at full price before receiving the email so i'll give it to the first one interested on preordering this weekend who sends me a PM.

[Hurst2112]

i got so excited about my pre-order, I posted a blog on my myspace.

[Joe Canadian]

This is a trade feature teaser posted by one of the testers on the SI Boards:

Posted 18 September 2006 16:51 Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
The NHL EHM 2007 trade engine may not generate as much hype as the new 2D tactical engine, but it is one of the most important aspects of an ice hockey management game. It’s also one of the more difficult areas to balance properly. GMs must be able to make trades and receive fair value for their assets, without being able to exploit the AI and build teams with all the best players.

There are several changes to the trade engine that are going to have a dramatic impact on the playability – and replayability – of NHL EHM 2007.

1. Immediate feedback

When making trades, both your Assistant General Manager and the other team’s GM provide immediate feedback on the proposed deal. This is absolutely invaluable. Before you even hit the offer button, you’ll know if the GM is willing to consider your offer or not. And let me tell you, if your offer is a joke, the other team won’t hesitate to tell you so. If the trade unfairly favors the other team, your AGM will voice his displeasure as well.

The other team may be willing to consider your offer, but that doesn’t mean the trade is a sure thing. Many factors come into play when accepting or refusing a trade. This prevents GMs from adding and subtracting from the offer until they find the perfect combination that guarantees a trade.

This feature should come with a warning: trading is now extremely addictive. The dev who designed the feedback system had a lot of fun with it. I've easily spent an hour just making trades and laughing at some of the GM comments.

2. The ability to lock parts of a trade offer

In previous version, when you tried to dump an unwanted player, the counter-offer frequently wouldn’t even include the player you wanted to trade. Those days are over. When making a trade, there are locks beside each asset in the offer screen. A simple click of a lock ensures the counter-offer includes that player or pick.

3. An “offer to all” button

The devs have added one of the most-requested features to NHL EHM 2007. You can now offer a player to every team in the league with a few simple clicks of a button. And let me tell you, this is one amazing feature. The response is immediate, which is exceedingly helpful and more than a little amusing. When testing this feature, I tried offering Ovechkin to all teams in the NHL. I immediately got 26 offers. It took me 5 minutes to stop laughing.

4. A much more friendly trade engine

It is now possible to trade for most players in the league – with the right offer, of course. It is extremely difficult to trade for superstar rookies and young players with tremendous potential, as it should be. Key players are also off-limits. Everyone else is fair game. This means that blockbuster trades like the Heatley-Hossa and Thornton trades are possible, IF you have the assets to trade. Brad Richards, for example, cost me 2 first line players and 2 prospects.

The changes to the trade engine have made the latest installment of the EHM franchise even more fun and even more addictive. I wasn’t a huge fan of the trade engine in NHL EHM 2005, but I absolutely love what the devs have done with trading in EHM 2007.

:drool:

[Pumpy Tudors]

One of my favorite things in EHM 2005 was making trade at the trade deadline. I thought the trading system was very good. I have to admit that it looks even better now, though. :)

[GoldenEagle]

Are you a Mudbug fan?

I spent the last few years living just down the road from the Mudbug stadium and absolutely loved watching games there. The Riverdogs (Memphis?) were in town and on the opening face-off a fight broke out. Both benches cleared in an all-out brawl and the penalty box was a no-sitting area for the first 5 minutes of the game. Good stuff. Lower level Ice Hockey is where it's at.

It is the Riverkings. The Mudbugs and Riverkings have always had a big rivalry between the two teams. I remember one game where there was a huge fight at the end of the game. Even the goaltenders went at it. It was pretty exciting.

[Honolulu_Blue]

One of my favorite things in EHM 2005 was making trade at the trade deadline. I thought the trading system was very good. I have to admit that it looks even better now, though. :)

I agree. I love the wheeling and dealing. It sounds like this system will make 10x's better. I often held off even trying to make a deal with other teams until around the deadline or right before the draft because those were the only times during the season you got immediate feedback. It was easier to keep making offers during those periods, as opposed to making an offer, waiting a few days, making a counter-offer, etc, etc.

This new trading system sounds sweeeeeet...

The fantasy draft sounds pretty wild. I assume you'll keep the farm system/prospects for whatever team you control and will have to take on all contracts (as is) for any player you draft. You want DiPietro, you've got him. For 15 years. It will be interesting to see how the AI treats this. I would be hard pressed to see any sensible AI willing to take on that Yashin contract.

[Pumpy Tudors]

One of these days, my wife and I will go see the Riverkings play. We're not in Memphis very often, but we'll try to make this happen sometime during the 2007-2008 season (it ain't happening this year).

[Draft Dodger]

I do like the trading in EHM, although I hope the frequency has been dialed down a little bit. There's way too many trades in 2005, seeming every one involving a 2nd round draft pick. Too many waivers of good players, for that matter (Mats Sundin was just waived in my game)

[sachmo71]

I do like the trading in EHM, although I hope the frequency has been dialed down a little bit. There's way too many trades in 2005, seeming every one involving a 2nd round draft pick. Too many waivers of good players, for that matter (Mats Sundin was just waived in my game)

Agreed. You have to create some house rules pretty quickly because of this.

[riz]

The trading levels have been tweaked again, and last I did a comparsion between the game and real life trade counts month-by-month, things were looking a lot better than last year.

[riz]

BTW, If anyone is interested, the final part of the 2D development blog is now online on the site:
http://www.eastsidehockeymanager.net/the_locker_room.php?news=view&id=1254

[Icy]

BTW, If anyone is interested, the final part of the 2D development blog is now online on the site:
http://www.eastsidehockeymanager.net/the_locker_room.php?news=view&id=1254

I'm as excited about playing this game as i was when i first heard of your free shareware one a few years ago, than ended being my first multiplayer sport sim experience when the only other text sim i knew those days was CM. I'm really looking forward this Friday for the release.

[Galaril]

I'm as excited about playing this game as i was when i first heard of your free shareware one a few years ago, than ended being my first multiplayer sport sim experience when the only other text sim i knew those days was CM. I'm really looking forward this Friday for the release.


Yeah, me too. I am trying to get my 40 hours of chargeable hours for the accounting firm I work for before Friday so I can spend the day playing this at home:) BTW any idea what time US time zones , that we are looking at for this being out Morning, afternoon or evening time? I know the UK is about 5 hours ahead of us so I am guessing around noon or late morning?

[Fouts]

I'd like some pre-release day hype. Please?


This Friday right? I'm clearing my schedule so I can rule the hockey world!

[Honolulu_Blue]

SI Folks,

To put my mind at ease...

I placed a pre-order last Saturday, but never got a confirmation e-mail. Is that normal? Should I just be expecting an email sometime tomorrow giving me the download info?

Thanks.

[scooter]

I received my confirmation email within 24 hours of my purchase. Did you print anything out, like the purchase screen? I'm talking about the "Thank you for ordering from the SI Web Store", "Your order ID is:" screen? That order ID number is the same one you will need to activate the e-license.

If you don't have anything, I would suggest contacting Elicense to see if they received your order. You may also want to check with your credit card company to see if a charge went through.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I received my confirmation email within 24 hours of my purchase. Did you print anything out, like the purchase screen? I'm talking about the "Thank you for ordering from the SI Web Store", "Your order ID is:" screen? That order ID number is the same one you will need to activate the e-license.

If you don't have anything, I would suggest contacting Elicense to see if they received your order. You may also want to check with your credit card company to see if a charge went through.

Thanks.

I received nothing and didn't print anything out.

I'll have to check the credit card to see if it went through.

[Icy]

I received an email just after preordering, i would ask them if iwere you Honolulu just to make sure all went ok.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Ok. Not to sound like an idiot (though I will), I checked my credit card and I was charged, but still never received a confirmation e-mail.

Who should I get in touch with exactly?

[Icy]

Elicense support i would say ([email protected]) as they should be able to find your order by your credit card number, but probably anybody from SI should be able to help you out too. This is the email i received just after purchasing (edited to hidde my personal data).

Date : 9/6/2006 11:03:47 AM (GMT)
Order ID: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

To : XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Address : XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Address 2 : XXXXXXX
City : XXXXXX
State/Prov. : XXXXX
Postal Code : XXXXX
Country : XXXXXXXXXXXX

Company :
E-mail : XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

A charge from ViaTech Inc. for the amount below will appear on your credit card statement.

You have purchased product(s) from Sports Interactive Ltd for the total amount of EUR 29.99

This is a list of item(s) you purchased:

NHL Eastside Hockey Manager 2007 Windows ME/XP/2000/2003 download 1 EUR 29.99 EUR 29.99


Subtotal: EUR 29.99
Tax/VAT: EUR 0.00
Total: EUR 29.99

[Simms]

My e-mail was titled "Confirmation of Purchase" and the sender was listed as SIGames Web Store ([email protected])<[email protected]></[email protected]>

So I suspect it's the eLicense folks you need to contact.

[Honolulu_Blue]

My e-mail was titled "Confirmation of Purchase" and the sender was listed as SIGames Web Store ([email protected])<[email protected]></[email protected]>

So I suspect it's the eLicense folks you need to contact.

Thanks again. I just sent the email out. We'll see what they say.

[Marc Duffy]

Email me with the email address you provided when you ordered and I'll look it up and resend.

[Hurst2112]

Isn't it friday somewhere?

[Joe Canadian]

I find this really funny... apparently the contract DiPietro signed couldn't be fully included in EHM, since EHM only allows 10 year contracts... so that's what he'll have in the game. :)

[riz]

I find this really funny... apparently the contract DiPietro signed couldn't be fully included in EHM, since EHM only allows 10 year contracts... so that's what he'll have in the game. :)

We set the game to support 10 year contracts only because of the Yashin deal. At that time, everyone thought that 10 year contracts would be the most insane thing anyone would ever do.....guess everyone was wrong then :)

[Galaril]

So I see the countdown clock for the game release is at 9:30 minutes until release on the EHM 07 site. That means release will occur around 11:00 am tomorrow EST.

[Icy]

We got the answer now at SI forums:

Originally posted by Marc Duffy:
If you visit www.eastsidehockeymanager.net (http://www.eastsidehockeymanager.net) (you should have this bookmarked by now) and view a news item you'll see a countdown clock

Release to pre-orderers should be around 1pm UK time (given that we are waiting for signoff)

Release to everyone else should be five-six hours after this.

[Hurst2112]

We set the game to support 10 year contracts only because of the Yashin deal. At that time, everyone thought that 10 year contracts would be the most insane thing anyone would ever do.....guess everyone was wrong then :)

So, there are Super Models in the game?! Do said Super Models have a button to have them go on sindicated radio shows as well?

:D

[Hurst2112]

We got the answer now at SI forums:

great....

I'm trying to sleep now. I have less than 5 hours till 1pm UK time - 6 hours. Looks like I will be starting my career at work. :D