Somewhat humorous FOF confession

[Ben E Lou]

I've realized something that's pretty funny about myself with regard to FOF/TCY. Back in the day before TCY, I identified my players with the colleges that the game generated, and I paid attention to what college was listed. Since TCY was released, however, I don't pay attention to it at all unless they are imported from TCY. Somehow, my internal, uh, "logic," is telling me that now that there's a TCY, the FOF-generated colleges aren't their "real" colleges.

In short, I'm perfectly fine with my fake football players coming from fake colleges, but ONLY if those fake colleges are generated from another fake football game. I am NOT ok with my fake football players having FAKED fake colleges, dadgummit! http://66.29.116.228/fof-ihof/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_rant.gif (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:emoticon%28%27:rant:%27%29)











:p

[JonInMiddleGA]

You gotta get out more ;)

[Poli]

What if they're injured in high school? :)

[Dutch]

I identified my players with the colleges that the game generated, and I paid attention to what college was listed.

I always hoped Jim could somehow make this relevant. Even in the sense of team chemistry. Maybe just provide a way to make most of the amateur draft qualified players come from the bigger schools.

[Ben E Lou]

I always hoped Jim could somehow make this relevant. Even in the sense of team chemistry. Maybe just provide a way to make most of the amateur draft qualified players come from the bigger schools.It would help me if their home towns matched up with their colleges. My research tells me that even the so-called "national" recruiting schools have 50-65% of their guys coming from in-state or nearby states. The major schools in hotbed states like California, Texas, Georgia and Florida run in the 75-85% home state players, and pretty much 95% coming from either in-state or nearby states. In the FOF logic, they come from all over the country. That certainly doesn't help me. Non-elite D1 schools in hotbed states (think Central Florida) are stocked 90% or more from home state, and it is quite rare for kids from outside the home region to go places like that.

[Dutch]

Those numbers are pretty amazing, considering I assumed that all the good players in Mississippi (for instance) go play football at Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, or LSU before signing on with the lowly schools in state.

[Ben E Lou]

[JonInMiddleGA]

Non-elite D1 schools in hotbed states (think Central Florida) are stocked 90% or more from home state, and it is quite rare for kids from outside the home region to go places like that.

That might have been a bad example to use.

Of the 85 players on the UCF roster:
Georgia - 9
Louisiana - 4
SC, PA, CA, and Canada - 2 each
NY, OH,WA,TX,MS,NC,IL,AL

That's 29 of 85, or 34% of the roster, being from out of state.
with more than 10% of the roster from outside the Southeast region.

Now, why on earth did I count this up? Because I remembered similar findings from one or the other of the college basketball games in the past, which basically showed that out-of-state/ out-of-region players were significantly more common than we usually perceive them to be.

It surprised me a little when I looked at it then, it didn't surprise me at all when I looked it up this morning.

Just to see if UCF was really a fluke, I checked the North Texas roster.
19 of their 113 players are from out of state (17%), but only 4 of 113 are out of region (just 3.5%)

And, just in case anybody wondered about states with fewer total prospects, 78 of 111 players (70%) on the Middle Tenn State roster are from out of state.

[Ben E Lou]

That might have been a bad example to use.

Of the 85 players on the UCF roster:
Georgia - 9
Louisiana - 4
SC, PA, CA, and Canada - 2 each
NY, OH,WA,TX,MS,NC,IL,AL

That's 29 of 85, or 34% of the roster, being from out of state.
with more than 10% of the roster from outside the Southeast region.Heh. That's funny. Bad example, but the point still holds to some degree: 90% of their players from the SE, 66% from Florida.

Now, why on earth did I count this up? Because I remembered similar findings from one or the other of the college basketball games in the past, which basically showed that out-of-state/ out-of-region players were significantly more common than we usually perceive them to be.In basketball, that's absolutely true. In football, though, I don't think so.

Just to see if UCF was really a fluke, I checked the North Texas roster.
19 of their 113 players are from out of state (17%), but only 4 of 113 are out of region (just 3.5%)Yeah, that makes more sense.

And, just in case anybody wondered about states with fewer total prospects, 78 of 111 players (70%) on the Middle Tenn State roster are from out of state.Yup. That's generally true for that kind of state. Without looking, though, I'd guess that at least 75% are from no more than two states away. (Going to look now...)

[JonInMiddleGA]

Without looking, though, I'd guess that at least 75% are from no more than two states away. (Going to look now...)

I could save you the trouble. Their roster looks like a GA-FL high school (3rd tier) all-star game.

edit to add: Meanwhile, South Florida looks like a much better example of what you were saying.
Only 9 of 90 are from out of state, with 4 from outside the region.

And, on another hand, Cincinnati is somewhere in between (which kind of makes sense), 46 of 114 are from out of state (40%), 26 of 114 from out of region (23%).

[Ben E Lou]

Yup. That's generally true for that kind of state. Without looking, though, I'd guess that at least 75% are from no more than two states away. (Going to look now...)I was sandbagging a bit, to account for guys from Ohio. I didn't need to, and there was no need to count up all the details. I only see six players from outside the SE on their roster.

[Ben E Lou]

And, on another hand, Cincinnati is somewhere in between (which kind of makes sense), 46 of 114 are from out of state (40%), 26 of 114 from out of region (23%).And even so, you'll never see a TCY roster or FOF draft class that reflects anything remotely resembling 60% in-state and 77% in-region, and therefore will never approach anything like UGA's 64% in-state and 92% in-region.

[Ben E Lou]

...you'll never see a TCY roster or FOF draft class...Let me rephrase that one: it hasn't been that way in the past. I am holding out hope that this will be more accurately depicted in future versions of the games.

[Grammaticus]

Those numbers are pretty amazing, considering I assumed that all the good players in Mississippi (for instance) go play football at Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, or LSU before signing on with the lowly schools in state.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

[Grammaticus]

Maybe now Blake Barnes will wish he went to Ole Miss. Or maybe not, but he probably will not start at Georgia.

[cthomer5000]

I know Rutgers is like 60% New Jersey guys, 25% Flordia guys, 15% other.

[lighthousekeeper]

Not to get off topic, but i can't believe there's a 371 pound sophomore. When I was a sophomore in college, I think I weighed 130.

[timmynausea]

Here's the breakdown for West Virginia:

PA - 30
FL - 19
WV - 17
OH - 13
VA - 8
MD - 6
AL - 4
NY - 4
LA - 3
NJ - 2
TX, GA, NC, SC, MS - 1 each

Just under 85% (94/111) from out of state, and that is skewed as probably less than 9 or 10 of the in state guys are actually on scholarship. Still, around 70% are from within a state or two.

[Subby]

emphasis on somewhat

[Toddzilla]

I know Rutgers is like 60% New Jersey guys, 25% Flordia guys, 15% other.Virginia Tech is about 90% Virginia, and then a few players each from NC, DC, MD, NJ (Thanks for Adjepong!), and a player or 2 from FL, SC, GA, MA, TN, and OH.

[yabanci]

I suppose I can live with the cities being random. But when the #1 overall pick comes from a tiny liberal arts college that shut down its football program a few years ago, that bugs me.