View Full Version : Colt Brennan for Heisman! 2007 edition . Word.
k0ruptr
10-15-2006, 07:02 PM
2007 Edition
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Game 1 Northern Colorado @ Hawaii 63-6 Win
34-40 416 yards 6tds 3 rushes for 23 yards
Broke NCAA Record for highest completion % with 40 or more attempts :)
Game 2 Hawaii @ La Tech 45-44 Win(OT)
43-61 548 yards 4 tds 1 int, 1 rushing td (most attempts by brennan ever in a game) also a come from behind clutch win on the road
Game 3 Hawaii @ UNLV 49-14 Win
26-32 298 yards 2 tds passing 0 ints , 19 rushing yards and 3 rushing tds (most rushing tds ever by Colt)
Season Stats so far - 103 - 133 77% 1262 yards 12 TDS 1 int, 4 rushing TDs and 34 rushing yards.
Colt Brennan Heisman Promotion Vid -
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Reads the blitz to perfection!
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This is a Pretty throw
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Galaxy
10-15-2006, 07:13 PM
Doesn't Hawaii pretty much run a passing run-and-shoot offense?
k0ruptr
10-15-2006, 07:16 PM
Yes.
Dr. Sak
10-15-2006, 07:16 PM
Thanks for the stat update. I will definately take a close look at him when I send my weekly heisman votes to CSTV.com.
k0ruptr
10-15-2006, 07:18 PM
Although this year Hawaii's offense is much more balanced, our RB is averaging 8 ypc and has gone over 100 yards rushing in a game twice.
Klinglerware
10-15-2006, 07:19 PM
Yes, the numbers Brennan are putting up are incredible (the completion % is especially impressive)--but after Andre Ware, I don't think the Heisman voters are likely to vote for another Run and Shoot quarterback (especially from a mid-major school).
Not being a hater here, I am a June Jones fan and read the Scout and the Sports Hawaii boards regularly...
Galaxy
10-15-2006, 07:19 PM
Hawaii has a legit chance to win out , finish 11-2 and in the top 25. He deserves to be considered in the heisman race. Especially since bowl game stats count, so he really could have over 5000 yards passing and 50+ TD's
The bowl games don't count for the Heisman, since it's awarded before bowl season. Problem with Hawaii is they aren't playing great competition.
Who's Hawaii's top receiver? I remember seeing that he is an amazing player for a sophmoore.
SackAttack
10-15-2006, 07:26 PM
We need Hawaii vs Texas this year.
Just because of the Colt factor.
sooner333
10-15-2006, 09:50 PM
I think Andre Ware won a Heisman is a better argument than Jason White.
st.cronin
10-16-2006, 02:13 PM
Somebody should start a Troy Smith for Heisman thread.
Eaglesfan27
10-16-2006, 02:37 PM
Somebody should start a Troy Smith for Heisman thread.
None is needed. It's common sense that he will win it, barring some bad performances down the road.
Galaxy
10-16-2006, 02:45 PM
Will Smith be a high pick? He's on the short side.
Eaglesfan27
10-16-2006, 03:29 PM
Will Smith be a high pick? He's on the short side.
I don't think he will be top 10, but I still think he will win the Heisman. I think if he continues to have a great season, he will go somewhere in the middle of the 1st round. As you mentioned, his height isn't ideal and he isn't as fast as some of the recent scrambling QB's to go highly.
IMetTrentGreen
10-16-2006, 08:38 PM
I think Andre Ware won a Heisman is a better argument than Jason White.
YOU DO!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!!?!?!?!??!?!?
IMetTrentGreen
10-16-2006, 08:39 PM
also, you're wrong. only one of them played well enough to fool nfl scouts
sooner333
10-16-2006, 09:23 PM
Ware never won a SWC championship for Houston, White played for two national championships. White went 27-4 as a starter and that doesn't include the '01 game where he came in and led OU on the only offensive TD drive of the game. White won a Heisman and came in third the following season.
True, White didn't ever make the NFL...but I don't think that this argument has anything to do with who is going to be a better QB in the pros as Colt Brennan hasn't made it there yet.
Izulde
10-16-2006, 09:26 PM
Timmy Chang put up great numbers too.
I'm just saying.
k0ruptr
10-16-2006, 11:52 PM
Timmy Chang put up great numbers too.
I'm just saying.
actually this is wrong. He put up GOOD numbers but he choked in every big game of his career, ever single one! He threw way way way too many interceptions in 3 of 4 seasons. Timmy Chang is nothing compared to Colt.
k0ruptr
10-16-2006, 11:56 PM
dola , in espn's most recent heisman expert poll or whatever they call it Colt got 1 point, a vote for 5th, which is the same amount of points Chris Leak got for whatever its worth.
Vince
10-17-2006, 02:54 AM
Although this year Hawaii's offense is much more balanced, our RB is averaging 8 ypc and has gone over 100 yards rushing in a game twice.
Wow. That's one heck of a run 'n shoot, if the RB is getting less than 13 carries a game.
k0ruptr
10-21-2006, 08:40 PM
Wow Hawaii is really running the ball a lot today, interesting.
anyway, our new favorite Heisman Candidate is having oh you know just a normal day, hes only 16/21 (2 have been dropped) 235+ yards 3 TDs and no picks at the half.
Galaxy
10-21-2006, 09:07 PM
Wow Hawaii is really running the ball a lot today, interesting.
anyway, our new favorite Heisman Candidate is having oh you know just a normal day, hes only 16/21 (2 have been dropped) 235+ yards 3 TDs and no picks at the half.
Who's "Our"? :)
Galaxy
10-21-2006, 09:07 PM
Wow Hawaii is really running the ball a lot today, interesting.
anyway, our new favorite Heisman Candidate is having oh you know just a normal day, hes only 16/21 (2 have been dropped) 235+ yards 3 TDs and no picks at the half.
Who's "Our"? :)
k0ruptr
10-21-2006, 10:36 PM
FOFC!
Anyway, seriously Colt Brennan DESERVES an invite to the Heisman.. tonight he was 22/31 330 yards 5 TDs and 0 ints.
Eaglesfan27
10-21-2006, 10:50 PM
FOFC!
Anyway, seriously Colt Brennan DESERVES an invite to the Heisman.. tonight he was 22/31 330 yards 5 TDs and 0 ints.
I doubt he will get it. He's seen as too much of a product of the system (Timmy Chang put up big numbers not too many years ago) and also the fact that Hawaii isn't playing many high quality opponents.
k0ruptr
10-21-2006, 11:23 PM
yea, he probably won't get it. but I'm definetly willing to bet the house that his numbers at the end of this season will surpass changs best season by so much that it won't even be funny. Chang's best season was his senior year, but I will wait till the end of the season to make a comparison. It won't be close.
TazFTW
10-21-2006, 11:37 PM
Who better than Brennan?
Nobody!
k0ruptr
10-21-2006, 11:54 PM
Sorry, but I had to do it. I just looked at Chang's stats from his senior year. Eaglesfan27 you should really look at his stats from any year, and even compare Brennan last year (as a sophmore). It's not even really close. chang had more TD's but his rating is soooo much lower. heh
Chang was a system QB, I admit it. But Brennan is not.
Eaglesfan27
10-22-2006, 12:25 AM
Sorry, but I had to do it. I just looked at Chang's stats from his senior year. Eaglesfan27 you should really look at his stats from any year, and even compare Brennan last year (as a sophmore). It's not even really close. chang had more TD's but his rating is soooo much lower. heh
Chang was a system QB, I admit it. But Brennan is not.
Ok, his stats are better than Chang's. However, he still has the issue that the Run and Shoot is considered to seriously inflate stats. Also, he is playing inferior competition. I think he has to have all huge games the rest of the way and get a few guys to stumble to even get an invite. He also can't lose any more games. Three loss teams don't usually get their guys invited to the Heisman presentation.
Guys that will almost certainly get invites:
1. Troy Smith - Clearly the favorite to win it and he is putting up huge numbers against superior competition. Top 5 in efficiency. 17 passing TD's. His team is #1 and undefeated.
2. Ray Rice - After tonight's performance he is going to be in the top #3 in the nation in rushing and will probably finish in the top 3 especially since Adrian is out injured. Also among the top 5 in TD's and his team is undefeated.
From here, I think it becomes less certain but all of these guys are more likely than Brennan to get an invite:
3. Erik Ainge - QB of a 1 loss top 10 team. 7th in the nation in efficiency. 11th in passing yardage. Playing much more talented teams.
4. Michael Hart - Top 10 in the nation in rushing on a top 3 team that is undefeated.
5. Steve Slaton - Top 5 in the nation in rushing on a top 5 team.
Others that merit consideration before Brennan off the top of my head:
Colt McCoy (being a Freshman will probably penalize him some), P.J. Hill, Chris Leak (if Florida doesn't lose any more games and Leak continues to throw a few TD's per game.)
I'm not saying Brennan's season isn't statistically spectacular, it is just too bad we aren't seeing if he can do this against some tougher competition, and I think Heisman voters will penalize him for it and he won't get an invite.
st.cronin
10-22-2006, 12:29 AM
PJ Hill!
k0ruptr
10-22-2006, 02:36 AM
Ok, his stats are better than Chang's. However, he still has the issue that the Run and Shoot is considered to seriously inflate stats. Also, he is playing inferior competition. I think he has to have all huge games the rest of the way and get a few guys to stumble to even get an invite. He also can't lose any more games. Three loss teams don't usually get their guys invited to the Heisman presentation.
Guys that will almost certainly get invites:
1. Troy Smith - Clearly the favorite to win it and he is putting up huge numbers against superior competition. Top 5 in efficiency. 17 passing TD's. His team is #1 and undefeated.
2. Ray Rice - After tonight's performance he is going to be in the top #3 in the nation in rushing and will probably finish in the top 3 especially since Adrian is out injured. Also among the top 5 in TD's and his team is undefeated.
From here, I think it becomes less certain but all of these guys are more likely than Brennan to get an invite:
3. Erik Ainge - QB of a 1 loss top 10 team. 7th in the nation in efficiency. 11th in passing yardage. Playing much more talented teams.
4. Michael Hart - Top 10 in the nation in rushing on a top 3 team that is undefeated.
5. Steve Slaton - Top 5 in the nation in rushing on a top 5 team.
Others that merit consideration before Brennan off the top of my head:
Colt McCoy (being a Freshman will probably penalize him some), P.J. Hill, Chris Leak (if Florida doesn't lose any more games and Leak continues to throw a few TD's per game.)
I'm not saying Brennan's season isn't statistically spectacular, it is just too bad we aren't seeing if he can do this against some tougher competition, and I think Heisman voters will penalize him for it and he won't get an invite.
you said it. Totally agreed with what you said.
its too bad tho right?
TroyF
10-22-2006, 03:02 AM
Agree with your list outside of a couple guys at the end Eagles. Colt won't get a Heisman invite. Not only is he a frosh, but Texas lost the biggest game of their year and he only threw for 108 yards in the OU game. His numbers are impressive, but he lacks the hype or the signiture game to make it happen. The Auburn game will come back to kill Chris Leak. I'm not sure Florida winning out would even get him the invite.
You also left out one name that will almost certainly get an invite, even with how horrible he's looked at times this year. Brady Quinn will end up with 4000+ yards passing and 40 TD's at Notre Dame. I just don't see a way he doesn't get an invite. Not sure he deserves it, but it's Notre Dame, right?
k0ruptr
10-22-2006, 05:14 AM
yo... this thread is about the better Colt. so fuck McCoy
Eaglesfan27
10-22-2006, 11:57 AM
Agree with your list outside of a couple guys at the end Eagles. Colt won't get a Heisman invite. Not only is he a frosh, but Texas lost the biggest game of their year and he only threw for 108 yards in the OU game. His numbers are impressive, but he lacks the hype or the signiture game to make it happen. The Auburn game will come back to kill Chris Leak. I'm not sure Florida winning out would even get him the invite.
You also left out one name that will almost certainly get an invite, even with how horrible he's looked at times this year. Brady Quinn will end up with 4000+ yards passing and 40 TD's at Notre Dame. I just don't see a way he doesn't get an invite. Not sure he deserves it, but it's Notre Dame, right?
I agree that Colt McCoy is unlikely to get it. Leak, I think might get it if others stumble just because there aren't that many impressive guys ahead of him. Then again, you are probably right and Brady Quinn will get an invite just because of the ND name, the national exposure, etc. I just don't think his statistics have been that impressive in their big games.
k0ruptr
10-22-2006, 04:03 PM
arg.
Galaxy
10-22-2006, 04:15 PM
PJ Hill!
This guy is a stud on NCAA Football! :D
k0ruptr
10-22-2006, 04:17 PM
heh.
k0ruptr
10-22-2006, 06:19 PM
Colt is now the top rated passer in the country, on pace to possibly break the passer rating record. Product of the system my fucking ass.
edit: he also has the best completion % in the country. Last I heard you have to be accurate to have a high completion %, and hes not just dumping off to the backs. This guy seriously deserves some / more respect.
st.cronin
10-22-2006, 06:22 PM
Colt is now the top rated passer in the country, on pace to possibly break the passer rating record. Product of the system my fucking ass.
I'm curious. Do you really believe he's a better QB than, say, Chad Henne, or Chris Leak, or even somebody like Will Proctor?
k0ruptr
10-22-2006, 06:25 PM
oh and 1 more thing... Hawaii WILL be in the top 20 when this season is over. they are getting votes in the 3 polls now and they are 5-2, the offense is unstoppable and I don't think they play a good Defense the rest of the way (which will hurt brennan, causing him to not get an invite im sure) but when they destroy Oregon St. and Purdue hopefully people give him, and Hawaii a little bit more respect. And maybe even a better bowl game then the gay ass Hawaii bowl.
k0ruptr
10-22-2006, 06:27 PM
I Believe he is better then Proctor, and Leak, maybe not Henne. I'm curious if you have ever seen him play?
st.cronin
10-22-2006, 06:33 PM
I Believe he is better then Proctor, and Leak, maybe not Henne. I'm curious if you have ever seen him play?
I believe he was the starter against Wisconsin last year, right?
k0ruptr
10-22-2006, 06:34 PM
word.
k0ruptr
10-22-2006, 06:35 PM
He has made a huge improvement this year, hopefully you can catch a game and see.
TazFTW
10-22-2006, 08:56 PM
Cool, Hawaii is ranked 37th in the BCS rankings.
He has made a huge improvement this year, hopefully you can catch a game and see.
Sad that the only game that will be televised nationally will be the bowl game.
k0ruptr
10-29-2006, 01:47 AM
DOLA , Colt only played a little less then 3 quarters, but finished 31/38 for 333 and 5 tds with no picks... these 5 td no pick games are becoming a common occurance.. COLT FOR HEISMAN!
k0ruptr
10-29-2006, 01:02 AM
not to mention his 63 yards rushing tonight.
k0ruptr
10-29-2006, 01:31 AM
best QB in the NCAA this year...
JeffW
10-29-2006, 01:44 AM
Timmy Chang put up great numbers too.
I'm just saying.
Was he efficient, though? When you're in a pass heavy system, it's even harder to put up solid Y/A, etc rates.
The main knock against Colt is competition, not system IMO.
k0ruptr
10-29-2006, 01:44 AM
Good call JeffW...
duckman
10-29-2006, 09:46 AM
Was he efficient, though? When you're in a pass heavy system, it's even harder to put up solid Y/A, etc rates.
The main knock against Colt is competition, not system IMO.
From my perspective, it is both the level of competition and the system he plays in. Look at the Texas Tech quarterbacks over the past couple of seasons. They have amazing stats and were never considered as serious Heisman candidates because of the system they played in. I think Colt playing better opponents would help get him into the top 5, but he would still have problems getting enough people to vote for him to win it all.
famatu
10-29-2006, 11:54 AM
Colt is amazing. I have watched him in person every home game this year.
He is a little like Donovan McNabb in one way - he pukes a lot - at least once a game!
k0ruptr
10-29-2006, 04:04 PM
From my perspective, it is both the level of competition and the system he plays in. Look at the Texas Tech quarterbacks over the past couple of seasons. They have amazing stats and were never considered as serious Heisman candidates because of the system they played in. I think Colt playing better opponents would help get him into the top 5, but he would still have problems getting enough people to vote for him to win it all.
He should get a shot at more national attention against Oregon St. and Purdue later in the season :)
TazFTW
10-30-2006, 02:01 PM
Colt has two more votes (a fourth place and a fifth) than last week on ESPN's "experts" poll.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/heisman06/index
k0ruptr
11-04-2006, 05:50 PM
Brennan threw for 413 yards 6 touchdowns, but he threw 1 pick :( , thats alright cause all those stats came in only 3 quarters! COLT FOR HEISMAN!
he honestly didn't have the greatest game today, and thats scary. Only completed 18/29 which is only 62% his worst game of the year, but probably the best as far as YPA.
Colt has also sat on the bench for OVER 5 quarters this year in blow out victories. thats about another 5 TDs and 350 yards ... lol
TazFTW
11-04-2006, 06:15 PM
Better to have the off game against Utah State than to have it against Purdue or Oregon State.
TazFTW
11-04-2006, 06:24 PM
w00t! Hawaii highlights on ESPN. Van Pelt, "If you haven't heard of Colt Brennan, WAKE UP!" Mark May, "He is 3rd on my Heisman list." The bandwagon is rolling.
cartman
11-04-2006, 06:28 PM
Unfortunately for Brennan, Andre Ware and Ty Detmer ruined the chances of QBs that put up ungodly numbers of winning the Heisman.
k0ruptr
11-04-2006, 06:29 PM
w00t! Hawaii highlights on ESPN. Van Pelt, "If you haven't heard of Colt Brennan, WAKE UP!" Mark May, "He is 3rd on my Heisman list." The bandwagon is rolling.
Awesome!
k0ruptr
11-04-2006, 06:29 PM
Unfortunately for Brennan, Andre Ware and Ty Detmer ruined the chances of QBs that put up ungodly numbers of winning the Heisman.
Not so awesome!
JeeberD
11-04-2006, 08:55 PM
Unfortunately for Brennan, Andre Ware and Ty Detmer ruined the chances of QBs that put up ungodly numbers of winning the Heisman.
How so?
cartman
11-04-2006, 08:57 PM
How so?
It put a stigma, rightly or wrongly, on QBs that are considered the product of a 'system'. It made it seem that the schemes put up the numbers, not the QBs.
Klinglerware
11-04-2006, 09:05 PM
How so?
I don't remember people using the term "product of the system" prior to Ware and Detmer.
Don't get me wrong, from my handle, you can probably tell that I am sympathetic to the run & shoot. But, with that being said, I think that voters have been influenced by Ware and Klingler's NFL performances. For better or worse, I think that a few voters are suspicious of run and shoot QBs because of this. Remember also that Houston was on probation during Ware's Heisman season, so voters could not see him and most voted on him almost purely on the basis of stats. I don't think voters are willing to do that these days.
famatu
11-04-2006, 09:10 PM
I don't remember people using the term "product of the system" prior to Ware and Detmer.
Don't get me wrong, from my handle, you can probably tell that I am sympathetic to the run & shoot. But, with that being said, I think that voters have been influenced by Ware and Klingler's NFL performances. For better or worse, I think that a few voters are suspicious of run and shoot QBs because of this. Remember also that Houston was on probation during Ware's Heisman season, so voters could not see him and most voted on him almost purely on the basis of stats. I don't think voters are willing to do that these days.
I think Brennan breaks out of this "product of the system" mold though. I say this because the all time leading passer in NCAA history is none other than a Hawaii quarterback who truly was a product of their run-n-shoot system - Timmy Chang.
Chang put up a lot of yards and some big numbers but he was never nearly as accurate or dominant as Brennan is. In addition, Chang never even broke 40 TD's passing in a season. Brennan is on pace to shatter all of Chang's records and he is doing it while playing or a very good Hawaii team and, like mention earlier, sitting out the end of many of their routs.
I really think Brennan should be invited to New York for the Heisman ceremony. In fact, I don't think there is another quarterback in America who should win the award ahead of him.
k0ruptr
11-04-2006, 09:12 PM
I think Brennan breaks out of this "product of the system" mold though. I say this because the all time leading passer in NCAA history is none other than a Hawaii quarterback who truly was a product of their run-n-shoot system - Timmy Chang.
Chang put up a lot of yards and some big numbers but he was never nearly as accurate or dominant as Brennan is. In addition, Chang never even broke 40 TD's passing in a season. Brennan is on pace to shatter all of Chang's records and he is doing it while playing or a very good Hawaii team and, like mention earlier, sitting out the end of many of their routs.
I really think Brennan should be invited to New York for the Heisman ceremony. In fact, I don't think there is another quarterback in America who should win the award ahead of him.
I agree completely, and guess what? It looks like a lot of the voters are coming around, they were talking about Brennan ALL over espnnews, espn2 and espn today. At least 5 analysts said they are moving him up their Heisman list, and are definetly voting for him.
cartman
11-04-2006, 09:14 PM
There might be two Colts in New York at the ceremony. Colt McCoy was 23/29 for 343 yards and 3 touchdowns tonight. He will more than likely set the mark for TD passes by a freshman.
k0ruptr
11-04-2006, 09:15 PM
I'd love to see a Colt vs. Colt staredown contest. lol
k0ruptr
11-05-2006, 05:26 PM
OH HELL YES -
hxxp://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Nov/05/br/br1093254678.html
Hawai'i junior quarterback Colt Brennan has been named the National Offensive Player of the Week by the Walter Camp Football Foundation following his performance against Utah State on Saturday in Logan, Utah.
Brennan completed 18-of-29 passes for 413 yards and six touchdowns as Hawai'i defeated Utah State, 63-10.
Brennan threw scoring tosses of 29, 13, 60, 35, 12 and 18 yards increasing his season total to 39, a school record. Brennan has thrown for five or more touchdowns in six games this season. It was the sixth consecutive victory for the Warriors, now 7-2 overall, 5-1 in the WAC.
UH, which accepted an invitation to play in the Dec. 24 Sheraton Hawaii Bowl, plays host to Louisiana Tech Saturday at Aloha Stadium.
Toddzilla
11-05-2006, 06:01 PM
yo... this thread is about the better Colt. so fuck McCoyThe better Colt? He begs to differ....
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/0/00/250px-Billydeesign.jpg
k0ruptr
11-06-2006, 03:34 PM
LOL.
Anyway my friends, Colt Brennan has moved up to #5 on the ESPN Heisman list :) WOOHOO GO COLT! it's too bad hes 1 point behind the other gay Colt. oh well.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/heisman06/index
Klinglerware
11-06-2006, 03:53 PM
LOL.
Anyway my friends, Colt Brennan has moved up to #5 on the ESPN Heisman list :) WOOHOO GO COLT! it's too bad hes 1 point behind the other gay Colt. oh well.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/heisman06/index
So they're both gay?
Anyway, I'm a little surprised that Hawaii already accepted their bowl bid. I think I read somewhere that they are obligated to go play the Hawaii Bowl if they're bowl eligible, but Hawaii still has an outside chance of winning the WAC. What happens then?
cartman
11-06-2006, 03:54 PM
it's too bad hes 1 point behind the other gay Colt. oh well.
So you are saying both Colts are gay? Not that there's anything wrong with that...
:D
k0ruptr
11-06-2006, 03:55 PM
ARG, good catch you foos
k0ruptr
11-06-2006, 03:57 PM
So they're both gay?
Anyway, I'm a little surprised that Hawaii already accepted their bowl bid. I think I read somewhere that they are obligated to go play the Hawaii Bowl if they're bowl eligible, but Hawaii still has an outside chance of winning the WAC. What happens then?
I was pissed that they accepted that shitty bowl bid again, especially since the Hawaii bowl matchup will most likely be a top 25 Hawaii team vs a 6-6 Pac ten team :(
but the main reason is, basicall Hawaii never has a shot at a mainland bowl unless its BCS. because they are like the worst traveling fan base in the country, and we all know that Bowl games are all about money, instead of quality teams.
k0ruptr
11-06-2006, 04:01 PM
One question, do you guys really think he doesn't deserve the Heisman if he finishes with 56 touchdowns (a record, and which he is on pace for) 4800+ yards passing, 300 + yards rushing with 3 or 4 more tds on the ground. Also the record for passing effiency, and completion %.
And also finishing the season with wins over Purdue and Oregon St.
damn I really wish he hadn't sat out 5+ quarters already this season.
cartman
11-06-2006, 04:12 PM
One question, do you guys really think he doesn't deserve the Heisman if he finishes with 56 touchdowns (a record, and which he is on pace for) 4800+ yards passing, 300 + yards rushing with 3 or 4 more tds on the ground. Also the record for passing effiency, and completion %.
And also finishing the season with wins over Purdue and Oregon St.
damn I really wish he hadn't sat out 5+ quarters already this season.
Davey O'Brien yes, Heisman no.
The main reason are the relatively weak defenses he has faced. The highest ranked passing defense he has faced is Alabama, which is ranked #46, and Hawaii lost that game. Three of the pass defenses he has faced are ranked higher than #100.
For the Heisman, it takes more than gaudy numbers. People want to see how the candidates handle and overcome adversity. The numbers should win him the O'Brien award for best QB though.
TazFTW
11-06-2006, 04:15 PM
Anyway, I'm a little surprised that Hawaii already accepted their bowl bid. I think I read somewhere that they are obligated to go play the Hawaii Bowl if they're bowl eligible, but Hawaii still has an outside chance of winning the WAC. What happens then?
What k0 said about fans traveling. Hawaii has a tough enough time getting fans to home games.
With conference affiliations, the only bowls that Hawaii could go to would be the MPC (Boise), New Mexico (Albuquerque) and Hawaii (Honolulu). With those choices I think it'll be obvious to take the Hawaii bowl and play at home.
MylesKnight
11-06-2006, 04:20 PM
This kid is a CU transfer? Why the heck was he not starting for the Buffs?
GO BOWS!!
Klinglerware
11-06-2006, 04:23 PM
What k0 said about fans traveling. Hawaii has a tough enough time getting fans to home games.
With conference affiliations, the only bowls that Hawaii could go to would be the MPC (Boise), New Mexico (Albuquerque) and Hawaii (Honolulu). With those choices I think it'll be obvious to take the Hawaii bowl and play at home.
Ahh, I see now what the issue is--since the WAC doesn't have a true conference champion tie-in bowl, it doesn't matter if Boise State chokes because it appears that the three WAC affiliated bowls will pick among the same top teams no matter what (with Hawaii obviously preferring Hawaii).
TazFTW
11-06-2006, 04:24 PM
This kid is a CU transfer? Why the heck was he not starting for the Buffs?
GO BOWS!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Brennan
On January 28 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_28), 2004 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004), Brennan was arrested by campus police for entering a co-ed's room uninvited and refusing to leave. Brennan was intoxicated at the time of the incident and eventually pleaded guilty to charges of burglary and tresspassing, but a guilty verdict for unlawful sexual contact was vacated by the court because of shaky evidence. After the incident, which was caught up in the middle of the time when CU was flooded with other accusations of sex crimes and revelations of wild recruiting parties involving Colorado football players, Brennan was almost immediately kicked off the team.
k0ruptr
11-06-2006, 04:28 PM
This kid is a CU transfer? Why the heck was he not starting for the Buffs?
GO WARRIORS!!
fixed.
Klinglerware
11-06-2006, 04:36 PM
This kid is a CU transfer? Why the heck was he not starting for the Buffs?
Haha, the answer to why he is no longer at CU is the same answer to "Is Colt Brennan Gay? (Not that there's anything wrong with that)". (Don't mean to hate on CB, k0, just thought I'd have a little fun :D )
k0ruptr
11-06-2006, 04:42 PM
It's all goooood. Gay or not, he better get an invite to NY.
MylesKnight
11-06-2006, 04:44 PM
k0, I am still not happy about the forced name change at UH. Rainbow Warriors is what it should be.
Klinglerware
11-06-2006, 04:46 PM
k0, I am still not happy about the forced name change at UH. Rainbow Warriors is what it should be.
Agreed. Never was a big fan of the name change...
k0ruptr
11-06-2006, 04:47 PM
Ok Joe Moore
k0ruptr
11-06-2006, 04:47 PM
just imagine how much fun you could have calling Colt gay and his team nickname is the rainbows. lol I'm just makin fun. I could care less if we are the warriors or the bows or the rainbow warrior fairy men.
Anyway I just looked up next weeks opponent, Louisiana Tech. and unfortunately, they are the WORST rated total defense in the country. lol
Eaglesfan27
11-06-2006, 04:48 PM
Davey O'Brien yes, Heisman no.
The main reason are the relatively weak defenses he has faced. The highest ranked passing defense he has faced is Alabama, which is ranked #46, and Hawaii lost that game. Three of the pass defenses he has faced are ranked higher than #100.
For the Heisman, it takes more than gaudy numbers. People want to see how the candidates handle and overcome adversity. The numbers should win him the O'Brien award for best QB though.
What he said. He still hasn't faced more than one good defense and when he has faced somewhat decent defenses, he hasn't elevated his team to wins. I don't think he should even be invited to the Heisman ceremony unless he continues to put up stellar numbers EVERY single game. A big game against Purdue won't impress me considering they are 98th in the NCAA in passing defense and are giving up over 230 yards per game. Oregon State's pass defense is rated 70th. If he was playing Oregon and put up a big game (6th rated pass defense), then I would be impressed. However, his lack of competition severely impairs his chance to win the Heisman and I think it should.
k0ruptr
11-06-2006, 04:53 PM
It's too bad Hawaii has to play in the wac. I think he could put up numbers against a lot of higher ranked teams.
Im assuming you mean Alabama as one of the decent Defenses. not sure there ranking tho, but I'm pretty sure Colt is the only QB to put up over 300 yards against them.. 350 I think it was.
ahh never mind Ainge did it a couple weeks ago.. 302. to go along with 3 ints, and a 60% completion compared to Colt's 68%
TazFTW
11-06-2006, 04:54 PM
Didn't like the name/color change when it happened but it does seem to reflect the attitude of June Jones/the team nicely. Truth be told the name change has helped with recruiting as there were recruits that did not want to be called a Rainbow anything.
Eaglesfan27
11-06-2006, 05:09 PM
Since I'm bored (lots of no-shows due to bad weather):
Colt's stats by teams: 30 of 44 for 350 yards 2 TD's and a game costing INT against Alabama which was one of the better defenses (rated 29th against the pass currently.)
Next is UNLV (currently 104th against the pass) in which he was 24 of 35 for 296 yards with 2 TD's 2 INT's.
Then his big game against Boise State: 25 of 36 for 388 yards with 5 TD's and 1 INT. Too bad they are 85th against the pass currently.
Then they drub Eastern Illinois(!?!) and Colt completes 30 of 41 for 409 yards with 5 TD's 1 INT. Of course, Eastern Illinois is not even ranked since they aren't a 1A team.
They have a close game with Nevada in which Colt passes for 419 yards on 36 of 47 passing with 4 TD's 0 INT's. Nevada is currently 53rd against the pass which seems like it is attributable in part to their competition, but still this is one of Colt's more impressive performances from a purely statistical standpoint.
He follows that up with a monster game against the 89th ranked Fresno State Pass Defense: 32 of 39 for 409 yards with 5 TD's 0 INT's.
Then a 22 of 31 for 330 yards with 5 TD's 0 INT's against New Mexico State. New Mexico's defense is currently 94th against the pass.
Then, a 31 of 38 for 333 yards with 5 TD's 0 INT performance against Idaho. Too bad Idaho is 109t against the pass (out of 119.)
Finally, the most recent game which was 18 of 29 for 413 yards with 6 TD's 1 INT against the might Utah State team. They rank an underwhelming 111th against the pass.
The remaining opponents:
Louisiana Tech is 84th against the pass.
San Jose State is a respectable 43rd.
Purdue as aforementioned is 98th and Oregon State is 70th.
Sorry, but strength of the defenses has to figure into the equation, and therefore I definitely think that Colt Brennan does not deserve the Heisman.
Eaglesfan27
11-06-2006, 05:12 PM
Dola -
All pass rankings are current as of 11/4/06.
k0ruptr
11-06-2006, 05:15 PM
Nice work. I guess you should also mention that in more then half of those games he played only 3 quarters.
and possibly the fact that Hawaii is ranked 100/119 in time of possesion, while holding the ball less then 30 minutes a game at 28:23
Eaglesfan27
11-06-2006, 05:20 PM
Nice work. I guess you should also mention that in more then half of those games he played only 3 quarters.
Actually, from the recap screens it looked like he was out that early only in a few of those games. But, does it matter? He is playing some of the worst pass defenses in the nation, it wouldn't change my mind as a voter if he threw another few hundred yards or even an extra thousand yards and a few TD's against those same pathetic defenses.
cartman
11-06-2006, 05:24 PM
Nice work. I guess you should also mention that in more then half of those games he played only 3 quarters.
and possibly the fact that Hawaii is ranked 100/119 in time of possesion, while holding the ball less then 30 minutes a game at 28:23
A guess the next fun exercise would be to prorate out what the backup's stats would be if they played the full game and see how much different they would be that Brennan's. If similar, that would be another strike against Brennan, that the system and not the QB is responsible for the stats.
k0ruptr
11-06-2006, 05:25 PM
Eastern Illinois and UNLV - less then 3 quarters
UTAH St. Idaho and Fresno St. 3 quarters in each
New Mexico St. 3 1/2 quarters.
k0ruptr
11-06-2006, 05:26 PM
Hawaii's Backup QB is a solid solid player
Eaglesfan27
11-06-2006, 05:29 PM
A guess the next fun exercise would be to prorate out what the backup's stats would be if they played the full game and see how much different they would be that Brennan's. If similar, that would be another strike against Brennan, that the system and not the QB is responsible for the stats.
That would be interesting, but presumably they are trying to run at least a bit more once they have the game so in hand that they are bringing in the backups.
k0ruptr
11-06-2006, 05:29 PM
DOLA - I dunno I can't place him as a system QB, unless all of a sudden this year the "system" made some kind of crazy leaps and bounds. Timmy Chang I admit was a system QB. Brennan just clobbers him in every statistical category.
and the fact that this is the best running game we have had since June Jones brought the run and shoot here.
Eaglesfan27
11-06-2006, 05:32 PM
DOLA - I dunno I can't place him as a system QB, unless all of a sudden this year the "system" made some kind of crazy leaps and bounds. Timmy Chang I admit was a system QB. Brennan just clobbers him in every statistical category.
Doesn't mean his stats aren't seriously inflated by the system. He clearly runs the system better than Chang, but I'm almost certain that his stats wouldn't be nearly so gaudy in a non run and shoot offense.
k0ruptr
11-06-2006, 05:35 PM
I hate the fact that we won't ever know on the college level :(
k0ruptr
11-09-2006, 03:15 AM
I'm bumping this to add this Colt Brennan highlight video :) its important, as Hawaii is launching their Colt Brennan for Heisman website in the next 2 days!
http://www.khnl.com/Global/Video/WorldnowASX.asp?os=&vt=v&clipid=1049218
I don't know how long this will be available for so check it out while you can.
k0ruptr
11-09-2006, 03:17 AM
stupid double post.
k0ruptr
11-09-2006, 03:42 AM
DOLA added some you tube videos of Colt.
Julio Riddols
11-09-2006, 07:23 AM
I'm pretty sold on him looking like a heisman candidate and even a possible 1st rounder in that video. With the improvement of Alex Smith, a quarterback considered a "system QB" can still be extremely highly regarded on draft day, and it looks like this guy is similar in his mobility, and has a live arm with excellent accuracy in the pocket or on the run. He also seems to make his progressions well, looking for and finding his receivers and getting the ball out quick. Good pocket awareness as well, and was that a faked shovel pass he used in the one highlight where the two guys were right on top of him almost as soon as the ball was snapped and he rolled out and scrambled for about 15yards? If my eyes didnt deceive me, that is just plain slick.
k0ruptr
11-09-2006, 01:58 PM
yea that fake shovel was a beauty :)
SunDevil
11-09-2006, 02:03 PM
pretty good video. He throws side arm it looks like, so there is a good chance that the DL can deflect/block them in the NFL. Also the throwing lanes that his OL open for him to see the field, will not be happening in the NFL.
I do think he should be invited to NY for the heisman and he should get drafted, but there are things that are a concern, and considering how Alex Smith is playing in the NFL, I would not try to compare the two. :D
k0ruptr
11-12-2006, 12:53 AM
Colt goes 27/40 for 406 , 4 TDs and 1 pick tonite in LESS then 3 quarters. 60 yards rushing as well.
I FUCKING hate this 3 quarter or less Bullshit.
larrymcg421
11-12-2006, 01:01 AM
With those numbers and a 54-10 lead, why should he keep playing?
If I was the opposing coach and they kept running up the score in that situation, I'd have my D blitz on every play and hit him as hard as possible. I doubt I'm the only one who thinks that way so it's probably a good thing he was taken out.
k0ruptr
11-12-2006, 01:06 AM
With those numbers and a 54-10 lead, why should he keep playing?
If I was the opposing coach and they kept running up the score in that situation, I'd have my D blitz on every play and hit him as hard as possible. I doubt I'm the only one who thinks that way so it's probably a good thing he was taken out.
well, the last 3 games the teams we have played HAVE blitzed every play, but they still can't hit Brennan :) watch some highlights, hes mobile, and we have an A+ Oline. also though, yes I'm glad hes been taken out, but thats 7 1/2 quarters he hasn't played, thats like 8 td's and 500 yards. I really want him to get a Heisman invite ya know.
Blade6119
11-12-2006, 01:13 AM
well, the last 3 games the teams we have played HAVE blitzed every play, but they still can't hit Brennan :) watch some highlights, hes mobile, and we have an A+ Oline. also though, yes I'm glad hes been taken out, but thats 7 1/2 quarters he hasn't played, thats like 8 td's and 500 yards. I really want him to get a Heisman invite ya know.
I understand what you want, but realize his heisman rests much like Boise and the BCS. 1 loss and your done, 2 and you have to laugh. Doesnt hawaii have 2 losses. Its a shame, but thats how it is, regardless of if he puts up those extra stats.
famatu
11-12-2006, 01:15 AM
Colt goes 27/40 for 406 , 4 TDs and 1 pick tonite in LESS then 3 quarters. 60 yards rushing as well.
I FUCKING hate this 3 quarter or less Bullshit.
I just got home from the game. I left when it was 54-10. You know, I'm all over the Colt for Heisman bandwagon but he didn't look that great tonight. I know, his numbers were sick good but when compared to what I've seen in previous games I think he had an off night. He missed a couple guys deep that would have scored for sure. I still think he'll break the season record for TD passe in a season though. I hope he gets the Heisman.
Klinglerware
11-13-2006, 07:57 AM
Looking at Hawaii's performance this year, I would have to say that Jerry Glanville is probably the real MVP of that program. It looks like he's finally turning the defense around. While Hawaii's defense isn't exactly shut-down elite level, it is still almost like night and day how improved it is compared too last year's version.
Sure, everyone knew the offense would be great. But the fact that the defense is no longer a sieve is at the heart of what Hawaii is accomplishing this year.
k0ruptr
11-19-2006, 01:19 AM
Well Hawaii's D played awesome again tonight. 54-17 win over San Jose St. yea the same San Jose St. that played Boise to a 23-20 game last week! lol there is night and day for ya.
Colt was 28-39 402 yards, 5 tds through the air and 1 rushing TD.
k0ruptr
11-19-2006, 01:24 AM
he really continues to amaze me.
k0ruptr
11-26-2006, 01:35 AM
IF HE DOESNT GET A HEISMAN INVITE , its going to be a travesty, I'm sure vegas vic agrees.
33/48 434 yards passing, 3 tds 1 pick, and 59 yards rushing.
Colt in a pressure situation. CHECK
Colt Dominant on offense. CHECK
Warriors in the top 25. CHECK
if thats not a Heisman candidate , then no one should be.
INDalltheway
11-26-2006, 01:36 AM
he's dog shit
k0ruptr
11-26-2006, 01:43 AM
WTF?? asshole.
k0ruptr
11-26-2006, 02:16 AM
answer BISH?
or you to drunk?
INDalltheway
11-26-2006, 01:14 PM
answer BISH?
or you to drunk?
I don't even know where to start.. I just laugh when reading this.
k0ruptr
11-26-2006, 01:42 PM
damn, I was wasted last night, mah bad lmao.
k0ruptr
11-26-2006, 03:21 PM
Obviously the hawaii and brennan posts arn't coming off well to you guys. you can go ahead and close this thread mods. and delete any posts if you want. I won't update anymore.
TazFTW
12-07-2006, 01:10 AM
There's always next year.
http://cfn.scout.com/2/598419.html
1. Colt Brennan, QB Hawaii
Get ready for an assault on the record books. Brennan is expected to be considered a second round draft pick by the NFL advisory board, but he loves Hawaii and is expected to return to make a run at sixty touchdown passes. All the top receivers are coming back, and the Warriors still play in the WAC.
I. J. Reilly
12-07-2006, 08:45 AM
So kOruptr, is a quarterback who can’t complete an open 12 yard out with the game on the line really deserving of a trip to New York? An inquiring Beaver fan wants to know.
Eaglesfan27
12-07-2006, 08:47 AM
No trip to NY for Colt. Apparently, they are only inviting the top 3. I wonder if Colt will even finish in the top 5 in voting. My guess is no: I think Ray Rice and Slaton are ahead of him at the very least.
k0ruptr
01-07-2007, 09:05 AM
hxxp://blogs.honoluluadvertiser.com/index.php?blog=9&title=brennan_says_it_s_50_50&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
Brennan says its 50/50 he will leave early. I think hes gone IMO. January 15th is gonna be a sad day for us Warrior fans me thinks. booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
k0ruptr
01-15-2007, 03:41 AM
So..... Anyway, Colt has filed the paperwork for the NFL Draft. He has 72 hours from Monday to rescind. He said he is still undecided. Yea Right. heh.
Izulde
01-15-2007, 03:42 AM
Any idea on where he's projected to go?
k0ruptr
01-15-2007, 03:51 AM
Well , He said if he was going to enter, he would only enter if he was a projected 1st rounder, So I gotta think the scouts must be saying good things.
k0ruptr
01-15-2007, 03:52 AM
Dola- Also I think he will come back if Brohm announces he is entering, Brohm's press conference is scheduled for 9 am eastern time. Right now I'm really really praying Brohm enters the draft :D
TazFTW
01-15-2007, 11:06 AM
FU Brian Brohm!
So when do we start the Tyler Graunke for heisman thread? :p
Logan
01-15-2007, 04:14 PM
I think he's going to have to have a monster combine to be a 1st rounder.
Young Drachma
01-15-2007, 06:48 PM
He should still be a first day pick by somebody, no? I think he probably would've helped himself going back to Hawaii, when you figure the system they run. But...I figured after that bowl game that he might sip the NFL Kool-Aid and I think it's a bet when people might say that he could "fall off the radar" or talk to him about how he could always get hurt.
Logan
01-15-2007, 07:02 PM
He might actually sniff the 1st round because the QB class is very top heavy. With Brohm out of the mix, there isn't really a guy who could be the late-1st round QB besides Brennan. So if a team chooses to make that position their priority, he might get lucky.
stevew
01-15-2007, 08:50 PM
He might actually sniff the 1st round because the QB class is very top heavy. With Brohm out of the mix, there isn't really a guy who could be the late-1st round QB besides Brennan. So if a team chooses to make that position their priority, he might get lucky.
I'm really having a hard time figuring out who exactly is going to be taking a QB in the later half of the first round....hell the first round period. I think at most 9 teams have any sort of day one QB need. I do think the top half of the second could see a few QB's like Brennan taken though, maybe someone like Cleveland will trade into the late first round trying to bypass the Lions and Raiders of the world.
1 Oakland Raiders Most Likely
2 Detroit Lions Doubtful
3 Cleveland Browns possible
4 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Possible
5 Arizona Cardinals 5-11 No
6 Washington Redskins 5-11 No
7 Minnesota Vikings 6-10 No
8 Houston Texans 6-10 Maybe
9 Miami Dolphins 6-10 No
10 Atlanta Falcons 7-9 No
11 San Francisco 49ers 7-9 No
12 Buffalo Bills 7-9 Not Likely
13 St. Louis Rams 8-8 No
14 Carolina Panthers 8-8 No
15 Pittsburgh Steelers 8-8 No
16 Green Bay Packers 8-8 Maybe
17 Jacksonville Jaguars 8-8 Maybe
18 Cincinnati Bengals 8-8 No
19 Tennessee Titans 8-8 No
20 New York Giants* 8-8 No
21 Denver Broncos 9-7 No
22 Seattle Seahawks* 9-7 No
23 Dallas Cowboys* 9-7 No
24 Kansas City Chiefs* 9-7 Maybe
25 New Orleans Saints* 10-6 No
26 New York Jets* 10-6 No
27 Philadelphia Eagles* 10-6 No
28 New England Patriots* 12-4 No
29 Indianapolis Colts* 12-4 No
30 Chicago Bears* 13-3 No
31 Baltimore Ravens* 13-3 No
32 San Diego Chargers* 14-2 No
JPhillips
01-15-2007, 09:07 PM
Depending on who's available I think Carolina could go QB. They aren't thrilled with Delhomme and they have nobody to back him up. I don't think they'd take Brennan, but if Russell or Quinn somehow slides I think they'd pull the trigger. They're this years Broncos.
TazFTW
01-17-2007, 07:11 PM
Brennan stays!!!!!!!!! :cool:
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Jan/17/br/br6720185934.html
JeeberD
01-17-2007, 07:32 PM
Great news! I'm sure he and the 'Bows will do the WAC proud next year!
Klinglerware
03-01-2007, 10:27 AM
Glanville leaves to take the HC job at Portland State. Mouse is expected to take the OC job there as well. That would be great for Mouse: almost like coming full circle. As one of the gurus of the pure run and shoot, I thought he was a little under-utilized in Hawaii...
I wonder how this move will impact Hawaii's D. Glanville has turned the unit around, but they are by no means shut down yet and still have a ways to go. A lot of the newer recruits came to play for him...
k0ruptr
08-19-2007, 04:39 PM
I'm bumping this because I just read a really good article on the QB from Hawaii.
hxxp://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/preview07/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=2981338
Klinglerware
08-24-2007, 02:31 PM
Another personal interest story on Brennan in the Times. Weird that it's dated for the 26th.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/26/sports/ncaafootball/24colt.html
As an aside, as someone partial to the R&S I'm not complaining, but has anybody noticed how much ESPN loves televising Hawaii home games in the past few years (even during the mediocre seasons)? The amount of coverage doesn't really seem proportional to national interest. Is it because of the need to fill the late timeslot? Something else?
larrymcg421
08-24-2007, 03:00 PM
Another personal interest story on Brennan in the Times. Weird that it's dated for the 26th.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/26/sports/ncaafootball/24colt.html
As an aside, as someone partial to the R&S I'm not complaining, but has anybody noticed how much ESPN loves televising Hawaii home games in the past few years (even during the mediocre seasons)? The amount of coverage doesn't really seem proportional to national interest. Is it because of the need to fill the late timeslot? Something else?
Free trip to Hawaii for the lower tier production staff covering that level of game is a nice way to boost morale.
Klinglerware
08-24-2007, 03:14 PM
Free trip to Hawaii for the lower tier production staff covering that level of game is a nice way to boost morale.
That makes sense...
k0ruptr
08-24-2007, 05:35 PM
The sports Illustrated story on him this week was also a great read.
one of the quotes from Brennan after being asked if he is a system QB
"Damn right I am, and I love this system"
hahaha I love it.
k0ruptr
08-24-2007, 05:54 PM
His official Heisman DVD is up on youtube now , I'll post the links in a few.
Even if you don't care at all, I think its an excellent watch .
PArt 1 - hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYMXvusyd3A
Part 2 - hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PPsKR7OIIs
Part 3 - hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brtXhNPKUbA
Part 4 - hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BXnOzhUvO8
Part 5 - hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVcBAJ-_7Bg
Part 6 - hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEkWx_cskSU
Part 7 - hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TCBB-xbyNk
Part 8 - hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuh9cfe4w38
Part 9 - hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C1_dVjnK0Q
stevew
08-24-2007, 10:02 PM
He's going to have to significantly re-work that throwing motion to succeed in the NFL. Right now I have him going 2(7) to the Buccaneers in my early 2008 mock draft.
k0ruptr
08-24-2007, 11:22 PM
can we please change it to anyone but the buccs, k thx.
cartman
08-24-2007, 11:43 PM
What better Colt,
Brennan or McCoy?
How the AI with June Jones?
Wishbone is best college offense. Just make a poll, you will see.
k0ruptr
08-30-2007, 06:05 PM
Colt Brennan doesnt give a fuck what ya think.
his new hair cut.
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/leilawai/colthair.jpg
what better dreads or Islands?
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/08/26/sports/26hawaii.1.600.jpg
I love this guy hahahaha.
cartman
08-30-2007, 06:10 PM
The islands haircut looks like he met Sen. Craig in a public bathroom, and the cops used a black light on Colt's head to look for evidence.
JeeberD
08-31-2007, 11:36 AM
Colt Brennan is a druggie!!1!1!! ;)
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2985678
k0ruptr
09-03-2007, 06:53 AM
Colt Brennan is a druggie!!1!1!! ;)
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2985678
lol, ok stop cuz we dont want this being brought up during Hawaii's greatest year.
anyway, CB is the greatest, and Hawaii has a slim chance to go to the BCS this year, how can you not root for em? well unless your a TCU fan.
wade moore
09-03-2007, 07:39 AM
Can you really go to the BCS and get the Heisman with two I-AA teams on your schedule on top of a lot of bad I-A teams?
Logan
09-03-2007, 09:24 AM
No.
wade moore
09-03-2007, 09:36 AM
No.Shew, I was worried the world had gone topsy-turvy.
duckman
09-03-2007, 11:00 AM
Mark my words: Colt will not win the Heisman.
k0ruptr
09-03-2007, 06:17 PM
Mark my words: Colt will not win the Heisman.
they are marked.
Groundhog
09-03-2007, 06:28 PM
Mark my words: Colt Brennan will throw at least 2 more TD passes this season.
k0ruptr
09-03-2007, 06:44 PM
lets hope you haven't jinxed him and he gets hurt after tossing 1 more.
Groundhog
09-03-2007, 06:51 PM
Yes. That's the kind of off-the-wall remark that tends to come back and hurt you. :(
bbgunn
09-04-2007, 07:04 PM
Will Smith be a high pick? He's on the short side.
Nah, but not because of that. What's really killing him are those Fresh Prince reruns.
k0ruptr
09-18-2007, 01:50 AM
yea, im gonna update this now .
oh and Groundhog you were almost right, I mean he got hurt Friday before the unlv game. still managed 298 yards and 5 combined tds on a sprained ankle.
Pumpy Tudors
09-18-2007, 08:09 AM
OK, I'm going out on a limb here. Tulane will run the table from here, head out to Hawaii, and smack the Warriors in the Hawaii Bowl. It'll be great fun, just like it was when J.P. Losman led the Wave to the same result back in 2002.
MikeVic
09-18-2007, 08:53 AM
Nah, but not because of that. What's really killing him are those Fresh Prince reruns.
Hahahahahaha!
k0ruptr
09-27-2007, 09:15 PM
Espn cover story article, really excellent read, even if you arn't a fan.
hxxp://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3038443
highfiveoh
10-12-2007, 10:47 PM
Word.
JeeberD
10-12-2007, 11:51 PM
Seventy-five pass attempts?!? You must be shitting me!
mauchow
10-13-2007, 12:00 AM
The coach is going to ruin this kid's arm if he doesn't control him a little bit! Can you say Tommy John Surgery or they might actually rename it Colt Brennan Surgery.
I. J. Reilly
10-13-2007, 10:51 AM
I wonder if they have Brennan on a pitch count, if he had hit 80 attempts would they have had to go to the bullpen?
And this just in; June Jones is a complete ass. Is there another college coach whose accomplishments and sense of greatness are further apart? His quote after the game, “if the conditions had been better we would have scored at least 60.” Yep coach, and if you had been playing even a competent defense you would have been picked off six or seven times, twice in the end zone.
k0ruptr
10-13-2007, 01:55 PM
well June Jones shouldn't of said that, I agree those were tasteless comments. But hes a great coach, and he's been great for Hawaii. He is definitely not a complete ass.
I. J. Reilly
10-13-2007, 02:09 PM
well June Jones shouldn't of said that, I agree those were tasteless comments. But hes a great coach, and he's been great for Hawaii. He is definitely not a complete ass.
Geez, no fair responding to my hyperbole with a reasoned and level headed comment. Since you’re going to be like that, I’ll say that Brennan’s 4 picks aren’t bad at all when you consider that he attempted 3 games worth of passes in one night
k0ruptr
10-13-2007, 02:13 PM
hahahahaha.
that was great. I'm gonna have to use that now.
Klinglerware
10-14-2007, 12:05 AM
And this just in; June Jones is a complete ass. Is there another college coach whose accomplishments and sense of greatness are further apart? His quote after the game, ?if the conditions had been better we would have scored at least 60.? Yep coach, and if you had been playing even a competent defense you would have been picked off six or seven times, twice in the end zone.
He's no John Jenkins...
sooner333
10-14-2007, 12:10 AM
Graham Harrell > Colt Brennan.
duckman
10-14-2007, 12:27 AM
Graham Harrell > Colt Brennan.
Word.
JeeberD
10-14-2007, 12:31 AM
Anything Texas Tech < Everything Else
k0ruptr
10-14-2007, 12:32 AM
I wish Colt had that kind of talent surrounding him, but maybe it wouldnt make a difference, Harrell still was a 4 star QB out of highschool. Colt was only a walk on at Hawaii after getting kicked off a bad Colorado team.
Man hes greater then Colt for sure.
DOWN WITH COLT BRENNAN.
sooner333
10-14-2007, 10:32 AM
I wish Colt had that kind of talent surrounding him, but maybe it wouldnt make a difference, Harrell still was a 4 star QB out of highschool. Colt was only a walk on at Hawaii after getting kicked off a bad Colorado team.
Man hes greater then Colt for sure.
DOWN WITH COLT BRENNAN.
Colt Brennan was a 4 star JUCO recruit who had to walk onto Hawaii because he had personal problems. He's a great player with a good arm, but tries to do too much. But he's undefeated and props to him...I know it's always been tough for UH when they go to the mainland without staying there for a week and that's totally understandable.
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