OT:GroupThink - Post Training Camp

[Bee]

<pre><font face=”courier” size=2>
Player # Pos Exp Overall RunBlck PassBlck BlckStr Endur

Pedersen, Tracy 70 LT 5 37/40 54/60 25/28 52 4
39/40 58/60 26/28 52 4
Wooldridge, Hardy 63 LT 2 30/64 16/56 19/68 86 34/38
35/64 22/56 25/68 86 35/38
Gaines, Calvin 74 LG 9 50/50 42 55 68 26
50/50 42 55 68 26
Penick, Andre 72 LG 7 39/53 51/78 15/25 62/63 45/48
42/53 57/78 17/25 62/63 46/48
McAfee, C.J. 67 LG 3 27/42 11/24 31/61 44 44/52
30/42 13/24 37/61 44 46/52
Cates, Clarence 50 C 6 42/45 42/43 52/61 36 20
46/46 46 58/61 36 20
Terry, Isaac 65 C 1 24/56 9/68 8/47 85 42/57
29/65 15/77 14/56 85 47/65
McGough, Claude 52 C 2 17/51 9/47 10/50 52/69 20/40
18/51 10/47 12/50 52/69 20/40
Meekin, Shaun 75 RG 6 55/55 40 86 17 80
55/55 40 86 17 80
Johnston, Blaine 69 RT 13 50/50 60 51 42 32
50/50 60 51 42 32
Goad, Bubba 66 RT 1 ?21/33? 3/13 9/37 93 15/18
23/35 4/15 12/42 93 16/20 </font></pre>
Post training camp numbers in red.

As expected, Isaac Terry and Hardy Wooldridge both had excellent camps. I'm pleased

with the progress that Bubba Goad made as well. Clarence Cates was somewhat of a

surprise in training camp. I didn't expect him to improve as much as he did.

[cthomer5000]

we should be fielding a pretty good offensive line. the holes should be there for the backs to run through!

[wade moore]

Prime... who is going to run cuts/preseason? I can if you want, although My time this weekend will be somewhat limited...

If you could run cuts and the preseason, i could run the first set of 4 games? (If we're doing it that way)..

[primelord]

Wade that will be fine with me.

Defensive coaches. I would like you to take a look at your positions and give me an opinion on who you would like to see start the pre season games at your position.

If you want to rotate people between games etc thats fine just let me know.

Also I saw wade had a starting lineup posted in the other thread I will use that unless I hear differently. Wade would you send me your settings for the offensive game plan?

[wade moore]

Sure, e-mail addy? PM it to me if you don't want it all over the place..

[primelord]

I am assuming everyone is anxious to get going with the games. So I am going to give my coaches a little more timw to weigh in then I am just going to go ahead and sim the first couple of games.

[wade moore]

Sounds good prime.. does the offense need to cut anyone/put anyone on the reserves? If it's just reserves, reserve anyone who is not in the depth chart..

I'm very interested to see how things pan out... one thing I would ask, if only 1 QB and/or RB is getting much PT in the first couple of preseason games, can you change it up so that the others see more action?

[wade moore]

Dola..

Once we start doing game reports... should that be in here or in the Dynasty forum? We seem to be hitting a grey area with that..

In addition, how much detail do you plan to give in your write-ups? One little thing I was considering is maybe we should use the MVP formula that QS and others developed to see how well it works..

[DolaBump]

Just a note, make sure to switch on the game logs and/or box scores before we start simming.

Also, in a standard cover two, each CB takes a side, rather than matching up the top corner against the top receiver. I prefer to play it that way, but whichever way we do it makes a difference on the depth chart.

[primelord]

Dolabump,

I was planning on having our corners just take a side.

[wade moore]

Btw - after Preseason I'll post more detail about the game plan, at the time I just didn't have the time to do it. .I'll probably post the screenshots just like I sent to prime and QS, because that is just a LOT of info to type out ;)

[QuikSand]

Sounds good to me... are we going to rotate some of the younger players a little over the preseason games? (Like the batch of DEs, perhaps to see who should get cut?)

By the way, wade, i agree with your call to start Pritchett at QB. His numbers in recent years have been pretty impressive. He desrves the first real shot, I think.

[DolaBump]

We're actually a fairly veteran group in the secondary, the youngest guy is Zo and he's going into his 4th year. That said, I'd like to see what our back-ups can do, see how much we can afford to switch things up.

I was kinda unclear in my previous post, I prefer giving each corner a side to play in Cover 2. With that in mind:

At LCB, I'd like to split the time essentially equally between LaRiche and Dennis, LaRiche as the tentative starter. I'm not sure exactly what settings to use in the preseason to achieve this, but I would think a playing time setting of 1 or 2 should accomplish it.

At RCB, Zo's the man, though he doesn't need an enormous amount of time in the preseason and I'd like to see what kind of numbers Varner can put up -- h'es strong in the three categories I like for a Nickelback (Zone, INT and punishing hitter).

SS is Bridgeman, FS is Wetherbee, no real question there, though again, we should limit their PT somewhat early in the preseason.

Let's play the first two games with Dennis in the Nickel and Varner in the Dime and switch for the final two.


We should primarily be playing a 2 Deep Zone, mix in some Bump & Run and Man, plus a little bit of 3 and 4 Deep.

Also, I'd like to see some blitzing from our Secondary, particularly Bridgeman and the corners.

Otherwise we're pretty much set in the secondary.

[DolaBump]

Incidentally, since we seem to be w/out a special teams coach, we have no one to return punts. That said, we should probably put a back-up RB or WR back there who has a high avoid fumbles rating.

Just a note, Gabe Blow looks like a bust, so some decent playing tim in the preseason could give us a good idea about that sooner.

At LB, we have no SLB -- do we need to change some guys positions?

wow, I made it to Varsity on an on-topic post. How unusual.

[primelord]

At what point do I need to switch some of LB's to SLB? Was it before the preseason or before the regular season?

[DolaBump]

I would say regular season, since the idea behind preseason is getting an idea of where eveyone stands. Though it would be more of a challenge to do it now.

[wade moore]

Originally posted by QuikSand
Sounds good to me... are we going to rotate some of the younger players a little over the preseason games? (Like the batch of DEs, perhaps to see who should get cut?)

By the way, wade, i agree with your call to start Pritchett at QB. His numbers in recent years have been pretty impressive. He desrves the first real shot, I think.

My thoughts exactly. Maybe to a fault sometimes, I go by performance a bit more than some I think. I think some a scared by Pritchett's INT bar, but look at last year... 28/9 TD/INT numbers, I'll take that ratio every year and be ecstatic ;)

[primelord]

Ok I have all of the settings in on both offense and defense. I am about to start running the preseason games.

[wade moore]

Yay! Too bad valentine's day starts soon, which means no checking between 4:30 EST and tomorrow!

[primelord]

Exhibition Game 1

Box Score: Little Rock at Providence
Providence, NY.

Exhibition Week 1, 1990

Attendance: 66,200 (79,700).


Weather: 67 degrees, fair.

1Q: 08:28 PRV - Les Mitchell 30 field goal.
1Q: 04:09 PRV - Blake Sjogren 35 pass from Heath Crute.
1Q: 04:09 PRV - Les Mitchell extra point.
1Q: 00:06 LTR - Wayne Hill 10 pass from Roger Pritchett.
1Q: 00:06 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.
2Q: 08:48 PRV - Les Mitchell 19 field goal.
2Q: 06:08 LTR - Duane Crawford 5 pass from Roger Pritchett.
2Q: 06:08 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.
3Q: 09:49 PRV - Johnnie Bell 5 run.
3Q: 09:49 PRV - Lamar Rose pass for conversion failed.
3Q: 05:55 LTR - Keith Baker 2 pass from Reuben Coleman.
3Q: 05:55 LTR - Keith Baker run for conversion failed.
3Q: 01:38 PRV - Les Mitchell 43 field goal.
4Q: 11:39 LTR - Wayne Hill 2 pass from Reuben Coleman.
4Q: 11:39 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.

Game MVP: PRV 18 Les Mitchell

Little Rock 7 7 6 7 - 27
Providence 10 3 9 0 - 22

Team Statistics LTR PRV

First Downs 21 23

Total Rushes 32 33
Rushing Yards 215 156
Yards Per Carry 6.7 4.7
Pass Attempts 26 28
Completions 16 19
Passing Yards 155 264
Yards Per Attempt 5.9 9.4
Sacked 0 2
Yards Lost 0 10
Interceptions 1 0
Fumbles/Lost 1/0 0/0

Total Plays 58 61
Total Yards 370 420
Yards Per Play 6.3 6.8

3rd Down Plays 8/12 3/10

Avg. YTG on 3rd 5.6 6.8

4th Down Plays 0/0 0/1

Penalties 7 2
Penalty Yards 55 10

Avg. Drive Start OWN 32 OWN 22
Time Of Possession 26:34 33:26

Little Rock Individual Statistics

Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD
49 Oksenberg 13 94 7.2 26 0
35 Crawford 8 49 6.1 24 0
36 Baker 6 63 10.5 51 0
2 Pritchett 2 10 5.0 7 0
16 Coleman 2 -2 -1.0 -1 0
45 Clancy 1 1 1.0 1 0

Passing Att Comp Yards Yd/Att Long TD Int Sckd
2 Pritchett 14 8 76 5.4 24 2 1 0
16 Coleman 12 8 79 6.5 37 2 0 0

Receiving Catch Yards Avg YAC Long TD
36 Baker 3 13 4.3 5 10 1
35 Crawford 3 47 15.6 48 37 1
87 Rose 2 41 20.5 0 24 0
49 Oksenberg 2 20 10.0 13 12 0
45 Clancy 2 7 3.5 7 4 0
11 Lane 2 15 7.5 7 10 0
19 Hill 2 12 6.0 1 10 2

Punt Returns Att Yards Avg TD

Kick Returns Att Yards Avg TD
36 Baker 3 67 22.3 0
87 Rose 1 24 24.0 0
18 Wallis 1 24 24.0 0

Punting Punts Yards Avg Long In20
9 Metz 4 187 46.7 50 2

Kicking FG FGA Long PAT Att
7 Bridges 0 0 0 3 3

Defense Tackle Assist Sack Int IntYds IntTD
57 Bell 7 6 0.0 0 0 0
42 Flynn 5 2 0.0 0 0 0
48 Bridgeman 5 0 0.0 0 0 0
71 Davison 4 0 1.0 0 0 0
51 Martinez 4 3 0.0 0 0 0
62 Strikwerda 3 3 0.0 0 0 0
59 Horn 3 3 0.0 0 0 0
58 Von Hagel 3 2 0.0 0 0 0
24 Varner 3 1 0.0 0 0 0
32 LaRiche 3 1 0.0 0 0 0
99 Mahoney 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
61 Shores 2 0 1.0 0 0 0
39 Carlson 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
33 Wetherbee 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
77 Blow 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
79 Wolfe 1 1 0.0 0 0 0
87 Rose 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
75 Meekin 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
49 Oksenberg 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
44 Armstrong 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
35 Crawford 1 0 0.0 0 0 0

Miscellaneous Fumb FForc Recov MiscTD KeyRBlk SckAlwd
75 Meekin 0 0 0 0 4 0
69 Johnston 0 0 0 0 3 0
45 Clancy 0 0 0 0 2 0
50 Cates 0 0 0 0 1 0
70 Pedersen 0 0 0 0 1 0
35 Crawford 1 0 0 0 0 0
19 Hill 0 0 1 0 0 0

Providence Individual Statistics

Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD
48 Bell 12 48 4.0 14 1
23 Shrader 10 56 5.6 19 0
38 Briggs 10 54 5.4 20 0
14 Crute 1 -2 -2.0 -2 0

Passing Att Comp Yards Yd/Att Long TD Int Sckd
11 Rose 17 9 117 6.8 27 0 0 2
14 Crute 11 10 147 13.3 41 1 0 0

Receiving Catch Yards Avg YAC Long TD
85 Middleton 5 90 18.0 19 41 0
81 Sjogren 3 57 19.0 3 35 1
23 Shrader 3 38 12.6 17 17 0
80 Walters 2 26 13.0 1 27 0
48 Bell 2 18 9.0 1 10 0
47 Witt 2 17 8.5 3 9 0
31 Von Hagel 1 15 15.0 2 15 0
38 Briggs 1 3 3.0 0 3 0

Punt Returns Att Yards Avg TD
85 Middleton 1 2 2.0 0

Kick Returns Att Yards Avg TD
81 Sjogren 3 65 21.6 0

Punting Punts Yards Avg Long In20
1 Cailleteau 3 124 41.3 49 1

Kicking FG FGA Long PAT Att
18 Mitchell 3 3 43 1 1

Defense Tackle Assist Sack Int IntYds IntTD
24 Ellard 5 1 0.0 0 0 0
35 Hancock 4 2 0.0 0 0 0
58 Crowell 4 0 0.0 0 0 0
41 Furman 3 1 0.0 0 0 0
92 Koontz 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
25 Woodson 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
95 Weber 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
98 Hutcheson 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
53 Wiggins 2 3 0.0 1 38 0
99 Sutter 2 4 0.0 0 0 0
46 Schwartz 2 2 0.0 0 0 0
22 Wendorff 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
96 Pearson 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
94 Sanford 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
34 Burroughs 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
83 Mathis 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
91 Walters 1 1 0.0 0 0 0
59 McNeil 1 1 0.0 0 0 0
47 Witt 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
33 Luongo 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
97 White 0 1 0.0 0 0 0

Miscellaneous Fumb FForc Recov MiscTD KeyRBlk SckAlwd
70 Ribich 0 0 0 0 5 0
74 Carr 0 0 0 0 0 2
56 Rasmussen 0 0 0 0 4 0
65 Judkins 0 0 0 0 2 0
76 Farrell 0 0 0 0 1 0
31 Von Hagel 0 0 0 0 1 0
84 Hutchison 0 0 0 0 1 0
41 Furman 0 1 0 0 0 0
23 Shrader 0 0 0 0 1 0

Little Rock Drive Chart
Quar Began Poss From Plays Yards Result
1 15:00 1:30 OWN 43 3 -3 Punt
1 8:28 3:12 OWN 47 6 29 Interception
1 4:09 4:03 OWN 32 7 68 Touchdown
2 8:48 2:40 OWN 22 7 78 Touchdown
2 1:32 1:31 OWN 25 3 0 Punt
3 9:49 3:54 OWN 20 9 80 Touchdown
3 1:38 4:59 OWN 31 11 69 Touchdown
4 9:02 4:17 OWN 5 7 43 Punt
4 2:50 0:32 OWN 22 3 3 Punt
4 0:58 0:58 OPP 22 2 -2 Game

Providence Drive Chart
Quar Began Poss From Plays Yards Result
1 13:30 5:02 OWN 12 8 75 Field Goal
1 5:16 1:07 OPP 48 3 48 Touchdown
1 0:06 6:18 OWN 35 11 63 Field Goal
2 6:08 4:36 OWN 3 9 42 Punt
2 0:01 0:01 OWN 28 1 10 Half
3 15:00 5:11 OWN 22 9 78 Touchdown
3 5:55 4:17 OWN 27 7 47 Field Goal
4 11:39 2:37 OWN 20 5 30 Punt
4 4:45 1:55 OWN 12 4 17 Punt
4 2:18 1:20 OWN 15 6 7 Downs

[primelord]

There were no injuries after the first exhibition game. Well the good news of course is we won. The bad news is the defense didn't play very well. Although that was with a lot of backups in.

[primelord]

Exhibition Game 2

Box Score: Mazatlan at Little Rock
Little Rock, TX.

Exhibition Week 3, 1990

Attendance: 52,000 (69,500).


Weather: 68 degrees, fair.

1Q: 11:15 LTR - Kenny McAlister 5 pass from Roger Pritchett.
1Q: 11:15 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.
1Q: 06:06 LTR - Billy Hutchins 6 pass from Roger Pritchett.
1Q: 06:06 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.
1Q: 01:18 LTR - Terrell Bridges 45 field goal.
2Q: 10:22 MAZ - Jeff Smith 48 field goal.
2Q: 04:57 MAZ - Jeff Smith 28 field goal.
3Q: 07:38 LTR - Renaldo Clancy 3 pass from Reuben Coleman.
3Q: 07:38 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.
4Q: 02:30 LTR - Terrell Bridges 35 field goal.

Game MVP: LTR 2 Roger Pritchett

Mazatlan 0 6 0 0 - 6
Little Rock 17 0 7 3 - 27

Team Statistics MAZ LTR

First Downs 18 22

Total Rushes 22 37
Rushing Yards 124 145
Yards Per Carry 5.6 3.9
Pass Attempts 41 32
Completions 19 23
Passing Yards 206 212
Yards Per Attempt 5.0 6.6
Sacked 2 0
Yards Lost 15 0
Interceptions 2 1
Fumbles/Lost 0/0 0/0

Total Plays 63 69
Total Yards 330 357
Yards Per Play 5.2 5.1

3rd Down Plays 6/15 6/15

Avg. YTG on 3rd 6.6 5.5

4th Down Plays 0/0 0/1

Penalties 5 3
Penalty Yards 35 20

Avg. Drive Start OWN 21 OWN 34
Time Of Possession 25:55 34:05

Mazatlan Individual Statistics

Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD
43 Barber 10 71 7.1 22 0
30 Perkins 7 21 3.0 6 0
40 Pierce 2 11 5.5 6 0
4 Morton 2 15 7.5 11 0
21 Whitson 1 6 6.0 6 0

Passing Att Comp Yards Yd/Att Long TD Int Sckd
4 Morton 26 15 157 6.0 24 0 2 1
13 Wright 15 4 49 3.2 22 0 0 1

Receiving Catch Yards Avg YAC Long TD
84 Washington 6 76 12.6 3 24 0
85 Everett 5 62 12.4 3 17 0
82 Matthews 2 27 13.5 3 17 0
30 Perkins 2 28 14.0 6 22 0
43 Barber 2 8 4.0 11 6 0
40 Pierce 1 1 1.0 0 1 0
21 Whitson 1 4 4.0 7 4 0

Punt Returns Att Yards Avg TD

Kick Returns Att Yards Avg TD
48 Edgeworth 2 36 18.0 0
41 Stockland 1 16 16.0 0

Punting Punts Yards Avg Long In20
6 Shelton 6 205 34.1 43 0

Kicking FG FGA Long PAT Att
7 Smith 2 3 48 0 0

Defense Tackle Assist Sack Int IntYds IntTD
96 Mendoza 8 2 0.0 0 0 0
54 Hill 6 3 0.0 0 0 0
25 Terry 6 2 0.0 0 0 0
98 Goga 5 4 0.0 0 0 0
26 Tate 5 0 0.0 1 9 0
94 Wagner 4 1 0.0 0 0 0
39 Cassidy 4 0 0.0 0 0 0
48 Edgeworth 3 3 0.0 0 0 0
92 Lindsay 3 2 0.0 0 0 0
50 Ross 3 2 0.0 0 0 0
59 Fanning 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
23 Dennis 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
41 Stockland 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
73 Jarvie 1 1 0.0 0 0 0
79 Middleton 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
24 Brown 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
27 Barber 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
40 Pierce 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
4 Morton 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
85 Everett 1 0 0.0 0 0 0

Miscellaneous Fumb FForc Recov MiscTD KeyRBlk SckAlwd
67 Cutting 0 0 0 0 2 2
64 Zordich 0 0 0 0 2 0
55 Yarmak 0 0 0 0 1 0
75 Springer 0 0 0 0 1 0
77 Heffernan 0 0 0 0 1 0
21 Whitson 0 0 0 0 1 0

Little Rock Individual Statistics

Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD
49 Oksenberg 16 89 5.5 17 0
35 Crawford 9 24 2.6 8 0
36 Baker 7 26 3.7 10 0
16 Coleman 3 -2 -0.6 1 0
2 Pritchett 1 7 7.0 7 0
85 McAlister 1 1 1.0 1 0

Passing Att Comp Yards Yd/Att Long TD Int Sckd
2 Pritchett 19 12 138 7.2 36 2 1 0
16 Coleman 13 11 74 5.6 15 1 0 0

Receiving Catch Yards Avg YAC Long TD
45 Clancy 4 13 3.2 0 8 1
35 Crawford 4 38 9.5 23 16 0
19 Hill 4 77 19.2 7 36 0
49 Oksenberg 3 36 12.0 18 15 0
47 Hutchins 3 19 6.3 7 8 1
85 McAlister 3 25 8.3 6 10 1
36 Baker 1 4 4.0 6 4 0
38 Stone 1 0 0.0 0 0 0

Punt Returns Att Yards Avg TD

Kick Returns Att Yards Avg TD
36 Baker 2 50 25.0 0
18 Wallis 1 31 31.0 0

Punting Punts Yards Avg Long In20
9 Metz 5 208 41.6 62 2

Kicking FG FGA Long PAT Att
7 Bridges 2 2 45 3 3

Defense Tackle Assist Sack Int IntYds IntTD
39 Carlson 5 1 0.0 0 0 0
71 Davison 4 0 0.5 0 0 0
44 Armstrong 4 2 0.0 1 0 0
48 Bridgeman 4 1 0.0 0 0 0
57 Bell 4 1 0.0 0 0 0
95 John 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
51 Martinez 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
59 Horn 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
42 Flynn 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
87 Rose 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
62 Strikwerda 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
99 Mahoney 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
33 Wetherbee 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
79 Wolfe 1 2 1.0 0 0 0
77 Blow 1 1 0.5 0 0 0
32 LaRiche 1 1 0.0 1 0 0
24 Varner 1 1 0.0 0 0 0
27 Dennis 1 1 0.0 0 0 0
82 Howard 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
58 Von Hagel 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
19 Hill 1 0 0.0 0 0 0

Miscellaneous Fumb FForc Recov MiscTD KeyRBlk SckAlwd
75 Meekin 0 0 0 0 5 0
63 Wooldridge 0 0 0 0 2 0
65 Terry 0 0 0 0 2 0
74 Gaines 0 0 0 0 1 0
50 Cates 0 0 0 0 1 0
70 Pedersen 0 0 0 0 1 0
67 McAfee 0 0 0 0 1 0
38 Stone 0 0 0 0 1 0

Mazatlan Drive Chart
Quar Began Poss From Plays Yards Result
1 11:15 1:11 OWN 20 3 4 Punt
1 6:06 1:44 OWN 19 3 -6 Punt
1 1:18 1:27 OWN 12 3 4 Punt
2 13:22 1:03 OWN 20 3 7 Punt
2 11:07 0:45 OPP 36 3 5 Field Goal
2 8:07 3:10 OWN 34 6 55 Field Goal
2 1:58 1:58 OWN 3 8 64 Half
3 15:00 2:15 OWN 20 6 39 Missed FG
3 7:38 2:57 OWN 29 6 7 Punt
3 3:39 7:12 OWN 2 15 83 Interception
4 5:24 1:27 OWN 20 4 11 Punt
4 2:30 1:00 OWN 20 5 32 Interception

Little Rock Drive Chart
Quar Began Poss From Plays Yards Result
1 15:00 3:45 OWN 30 8 70 Touchdown
1 10:04 3:58 OWN 45 8 55 Touchdown
1 4:22 3:04 OWN 47 5 25 Field Goal
2 14:51 1:29 OPP 47 3 8 Punt
2 12:19 1:12 OWN 30 3 6 Interception
2 10:22 2:15 OWN 26 3 4 Punt
2 4:57 2:59 OWN 33 5 25 Punt
3 12:45 5:07 OWN 48 10 52 Touchdown
3 4:41 1:02 OWN 33 3 3 Punt
4 11:27 6:03 OWN 9 12 59 Punt
4 3:57 1:27 OWN 40 6 42 Field Goal
4 1:30 1:30 OWN 20 4 13 Game

[primelord]

DT R.J. Strikwerda is a questionable for the next 3 weeks.

Well again we won and the defense did better in terms of points allowed, but we are still allowing more yards than I was hoping for.

[primelord]

Should I finish the final pre-season games or do we want to give people time to look over the results?

[Bee]

2 games and no sacks allowed. I'm satisfied. :D

[wade moore]

Well... for right now, I'm freakin ecstatic with my setup and don't know that there is anything to possibly change, beyond making sure that our key players (the ox, pritchet, mcallister) don't get hurt..

Wow.. I'm VERY VERY ecstatic with how the offense is performing, it is doing exactly what I had hoped. I'm a little concerned about Pritchett's INTs, but with everything out it can't be a huge worry..

Unless someone disagrees, I say just roll with this making sure those 3 players don't see any PT so they don't get hurt, I think we know they're the real deal...

[wade moore]

And TONS of KRBs from all over, which makes ME happy with my OLine coach Mr. Bee ;)

[primelord]

Here are the updated files with the first two exhibition games.

Here's the first file.

[primelord]

Here is the 2nd file.

[primelord]

I have to go take care of something. I should be back in about an hour. That should give people some time to review the first two games and then I will finish the last two games.

[DolaBump]

Just a reminder, could you swap Varner into the Nickel position and Dennis into the Dime?

GAME 1
Varner: 0 Caught 2 Defensed 16 pass plays
Dennis: 0 Caught 1 Defensed 20 pass plays

GAME 2
Varner: 1 Caught 2 Defensed 33 pass plays
Dennis: 1 Caught 0 Defensed 29 pass plays

Dennis is playing just fine, but I like what I see from Varner.

[primelord]

Exhibition Game 3

Box Score: Little Rock at Norfolk
Norfolk, DC.

Exhibition Week 4, 1990

Attendance: 71,300 (80,100).


Weather: 68 degrees, fair.

1Q: 09:28 NOR - Winfred Raymond 11 pass from Christian Josiah.
1Q: 09:28 NOR - Raymond Frederick extra point.
1Q: 03:49 NOR - Darnell Phares 38 pass from Christian Josiah.
1Q: 03:49 NOR - Raymond Frederick extra point.
2Q: 10:49 NOR - Raymond Frederick 25 field goal.
2Q: 07:16 LTR - Terrell Bridges 26 field goal.
2Q: 02:21 NOR - Raymond Frederick 36 field goal.
3Q: 06:08 LTR - Terrell Bridges 37 field goal.
4Q: 14:32 NOR - Raymond Frederick 40 field goal.
4Q: 08:41 LTR - Terrell Bridges 43 field goal.
4Q: 02:34 LTR - Quentin Flynn 86 interception return.
4Q: 02:34 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.
4Q: 01:16 LTR - D.J. Howard 32 pass from Danny Rhodes.
4Q: 01:16 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.
4Q: 00:28 NOR - Raymond Frederick 41 field goal.

Game MVP: NOR 9 Christian Josiah

Little Rock 0 3 3 17 - 23
Norfolk 14 6 0 6 - 26

Team Statistics LTR NOR

First Downs 16 15

Total Rushes 29 33
Rushing Yards 159 128
Yards Per Carry 5.4 3.8
Pass Attempts 27 27
Completions 15 17
Passing Yards 222 244
Yards Per Attempt 8.2 9.0
Sacked 2 4
Yards Lost 12 21
Interceptions 2 1
Fumbles/Lost 0/0 0/0

Total Plays 56 60
Total Yards 381 372
Yards Per Play 6.8 6.2

3rd Down Plays 1/11 0/13

Avg. YTG on 3rd 8.2 7.9

4th Down Plays 0/0 0/0

Penalties 4 8
Penalty Yards 22 63

Avg. Drive Start OWN 32 OWN 34
Time Of Possession 30:27 29:33

Little Rock Individual Statistics

Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD
36 Baker 11 35 3.1 23 0
23 Dawkins 7 41 5.8 14 0
16 Coleman 5 20 4.0 12 0
35 Crawford 4 58 14.5 47 0
15 Rhodes 1 2 2.0 2 0
38 Stone 1 3 3.0 3 0

Passing Att Comp Yards Yd/Att Long TD Int Sckd
15 Rhodes 16 9 163 10.1 46 1 1 1
16 Coleman 11 6 59 5.3 24 0 1 1

Receiving Catch Yards Avg YAC Long TD
82 Howard 4 100 25.0 9 45 1
45 Clancy 3 20 6.6 8 11 0
19 Hill 3 76 25.3 19 46 0
87 Rose 2 13 6.5 1 7 0
84 Graham 2 2 1.0 1 2 0
36 Baker 1 11 11.0 0 11 0

Punt Returns Att Yards Avg TD
82 Howard 3 48 16.0 0
87 Rose 2 7 3.5 0

Kick Returns Att Yards Avg TD
36 Baker 4 101 25.2 0
18 Wallis 1 25 25.0 0

Punting Punts Yards Avg Long In20
9 Metz 7 356 50.8 58 2

Kicking FG FGA Long PAT Att
7 Bridges 3 3 43 2 2

Defense Tackle Assist Sack Int IntYds IntTD
51 Martinez 8 1 0.5 0 0 0
57 Bell 7 0 0.0 0 0 0
32 LaRiche 6 1 1.0 0 0 0
42 Flynn 5 0 0.0 1 86 1
39 Carlson 5 1 0.0 0 0 0
44 Armstrong 5 0 0.0 0 0 0
71 Davison 3 2 1.0 0 0 0
61 Shores 3 1 1.0 0 0 0
99 Mahoney 3 4 0.0 0 0 0
82 Howard 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
48 Bridgeman 2 2 0.0 0 0 0
33 Wetherbee 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
79 Wolfe 1 1 0.5 0 0 0
59 Horn 1 2 0.0 0 0 0
58 Von Hagel 1 1 0.0 0 0 0
24 Varner 1 1 0.0 0 0 0
87 Rose 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
69 Johnston 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
74 Gaines 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
84 Graham 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
38 Stone 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
77 Blow 0 2 0.0 0 0 0

Miscellaneous Fumb FForc Recov MiscTD KeyRBlk SckAlwd
63 Wooldridge 0 0 0 0 0 1
74 Gaines 0 0 0 0 1 1
69 Johnston 0 0 0 0 2 0
70 Pedersen 0 0 0 0 1 0
45 Clancy 0 0 0 0 1 0
84 Graham 0 0 0 0 1 0
67 McAfee 0 0 0 0 1 0

Norfolk Individual Statistics

Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD
23 Keith 11 30 2.7 6 0
24 Raymond 9 53 5.8 18 0
49 Bradford 8 27 3.3 11 0
9 Josiah 4 15 3.7 4 0
85 Saddler 1 3 3.0 3 0

Passing Att Comp Yards Yd/Att Long TD Int Sckd
9 Josiah 25 17 244 9.7 55 2 0 3
13 Stephenson 2 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 1

Receiving Catch Yards Avg YAC Long TD
45 Hitchcock 3 10 3.3 6 4 0
84 Covington 2 38 19.0 34 27 0
82 Phares 2 55 27.5 3 38 1
24 Raymond 2 22 11.0 15 11 1
22 Davison 2 10 5.0 8 6 0
23 Keith 2 22 11.0 1 11 0
86 Irwin 2 65 32.5 19 55 0
49 Bradford 2 22 11.0 3 15 0

Punt Returns Att Yards Avg TD
88 Rhodes 3 71 23.6 0

Kick Returns Att Yards Avg TD
42 Shapiro 2 49 24.5 0
37 Gordon 2 64 32.0 0

Punting Punts Yards Avg Long In20
5 Connell 8 341 42.6 50 2

Kicking FG FGA Long PAT Att
17 Frederick 4 4 41 2 2

Defense Tackle Assist Sack Int IntYds IntTD
37 Gordon 5 0 0.0 0 0 0
91 Ehret 4 0 2.0 0 0 0
96 Crane 4 1 0.0 0 0 0
44 Rice 4 0 0.0 0 0 0
93 Cuellar 4 0 0.0 0 0 0
41 Clanton 3 2 0.0 1 20 0
42 Shapiro 3 2 0.0 0 0 0
52 Roberts 3 1 0.0 0 0 0
50 Curtis 3 1 0.0 0 0 0
92 England 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
90 Lee 2 5 0.0 0 0 0
72 Benoit 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
98 Clancy 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
28 Freeman 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
86 Irwin 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
99 Box 1 0 0.0 1 38 0
73 Iversen 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
85 Saddler 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
51 Bridges 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
80 Simmons 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
97 Cleaver 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
22 Davison 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
45 Hitchcock 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
68 Nader 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
27 Nichols 0 2 0.0 0 0 0
48 Reese 0 1 0.0 0 0 0

Miscellaneous Fumb FForc Recov MiscTD KeyRBlk SckAlwd
63 Pruitt 0 0 0 0 0 1
68 Nader 0 0 0 0 0 1
60 Moreland 0 0 0 0 1 1
79 Brodbelt 0 0 0 0 3 1
51 Bridges 0 0 0 0 3 0
54 Danskin 0 0 0 0 1 0
45 Hitchcock 0 0 0 0 1 0

Little Rock Drive Chart
Quar Began Poss From Plays Yards Result
1 12:43 2:03 OWN 21 3 0 Punt
1 9:28 3:34 OWN 38 5 19 Punt
1 3:49 1:51 OWN 20 3 7 Punt
1 0:08 1:37 OWN 25 4 3 Punt
2 10:49 3:33 OWN 41 6 50 Field Goal
2 5:44 0:50 OPP 35 2 -3 Interception
2 2:21 2:21 OWN 7 4 77 Half
3 15:00 2:56 OWN 24 5 18 Punt
3 9:20 3:12 OWN 2 7 78 Field Goal
3 4:05 1:14 OWN 44 3 0 Punt
3 1:03 0:11 50 1 0 Interception
4 14:32 5:51 OWN 31 9 43 Field Goal
4 6:34 0:45 OWN 21 3 -5 Punt
4 1:41 0:25 OPP 32 2 32 Touchdown
4 0:28 0:28 OWN 29 1 45 Game

Norfolk Drive Chart
Quar Began Poss From Plays Yards Result
1 15:00 2:17 OWN 35 5 9 Punt
1 10:40 1:12 OWN 30 3 70 Touchdown
1 5:54 2:05 OWN 20 6 80 Touchdown
1 1:58 1:50 OWN 25 4 11 Punt
2 13:31 2:42 OPP 27 5 19 Field Goal
2 7:16 1:32 OWN 20 3 0 Punt
2 4:54 2:33 OWN 35 6 46 Field Goal
3 12:04 2:44 OWN 20 7 30 Punt
3 6:08 2:03 OWN 38 3 -17 Punt
3 2:51 1:48 OWN 11 3 3 Punt
3 0:52 1:20 OPP 25 3 2 Field Goal
4 8:41 2:07 OWN 25 3 4 Punt
4 5:49 3:15 OWN 41 7 43 Interception
4 2:34 0:53 OWN 7 3 -3 Punt
4 1:16 0:48 OPP 32 3 8 Field Goal

[primelord]

Exhibition Game 4

Box Score: Kitty Hawk at Little Rock
Little Rock, TX.

Exhibition Week 5, 1990

Attendance: 52,000 (69,500).


Weather: 68 degrees, fair.

1Q: 05:37 KYH - Colin Morris 8 run.
1Q: 05:37 KYH - Jose Farrell extra point.
2Q: 12:21 LTR - Renaldo Clancy 8 pass from Reuben Coleman.
2Q: 12:21 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.
2Q: 01:53 KYH - Jose Farrell 21 field goal.
3Q: 09:15 LTR - Ed DeWalt 2 pass from Reuben Coleman.
3Q: 09:15 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.
4Q: 14:54 KYH - Alan Babic 11 pass from Daniel Wolf.
4Q: 14:54 KYH - Jose Farrell extra point.
4Q: 06:34 LTR - Terrell Bridges 47 field goal.
4Q: 01:50 LTR - Duane Crawford 1 run.
4Q: 01:50 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.
4Q: 00:23 LTR - Terrell Bridges 38 field goal.

Game MVP: LTR 16 Reuben Coleman

Kitty Hawk 7 3 0 7 - 17
Little Rock 0 7 7 13 - 27

Team Statistics KYH LTR

First Downs 12 18

Total Rushes 28 36
Rushing Yards 153 92
Yards Per Carry 5.4 2.5
Pass Attempts 33 29
Completions 15 22
Passing Yards 77 262
Yards Per Attempt 2.3 9.0
Sacked 1 0
Yards Lost 6 0
Interceptions 1 0
Fumbles/Lost 2/0 2/1

Total Plays 61 65
Total Yards 230 354
Yards Per Play 3.7 5.4

3rd Down Plays 4/14 4/14

Avg. YTG on 3rd 6.0 6.7

4th Down Plays 0/1 0/0

Penalties 4 4
Penalty Yards 25 20

Avg. Drive Start OWN 31 OWN 30
Time Of Possession 27:41 32:19

Kitty Hawk Individual Statistics

Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD
29 Buysse 7 63 9.0 27 0
37 Morris 6 33 5.5 10 1
36 McKenzie 6 20 3.3 9 0
4 Fisher 3 12 4.0 7 0
17 Wolf 3 8 2.6 4 0
39 Armagost 2 15 7.5 14 0
87 Babic 1 2 2.0 2 0

Passing Att Comp Yards Yd/Att Long TD Int Sckd
4 Fisher 18 9 47 2.6 13 0 1 0
17 Wolf 15 6 30 2.0 11 1 0 1

Receiving Catch Yards Avg YAC Long TD
39 Armagost 5 21 4.2 2 10 0
43 Page 3 6 2.0 5 3 0
87 Babic 2 19 9.5 1 11 1
85 Kaplan 2 18 9.0 3 13 0
80 Barlow 1 3 3.0 0 3 0
29 Buysse 1 1 1.0 0 1 0
88 Robbins 1 9 9.0 3 9 0

Punt Returns Att Yards Avg TD
27 Hammond 2 3 1.5 0

Kick Returns Att Yards Avg TD
27 Hammond 2 38 19.0 0
82 Daniels 2 32 16.0 0
42 McLellan 1 15 15.0 0

Punting Punts Yards Avg Long In20
7 Cerqua 8 348 43.5 49 2

Kicking FG FGA Long PAT Att
18 Farrell 1 1 21 2 2

Defense Tackle Assist Sack Int IntYds IntTD
34 Reynolds 8 1 0.0 0 0 0
59 Starks 5 1 0.0 0 0 0
95 Gates 5 1 0.0 0 0 0
75 Brady 5 1 0.0 0 0 0
72 Swift 3 1 0.0 0 0 0
30 Amaya 3 1 0.0 0 0 0
46 Sadowski 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
40 Upshaw 2 3 0.0 0 0 0
51 Norton 2 2 0.0 0 0 0
23 Patterson 2 2 0.0 0 0 0
76 Foley 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
27 Hammond 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
42 McLellan 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
77 Long 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
98 Hoffman 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
54 Lethridge 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
22 Suzuki 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
57 Furrer 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
97 Brady 1 1 0.0 0 0 0
79 Samuels 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
69 Humphries 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
87 Babic 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
93 Ng 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
89 Rosenkrantz 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
68 Newton 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
96 Sargent 0 1 0.0 0 0 0

Miscellaneous Fumb FForc Recov MiscTD KeyRBlk SckAlwd
69 Humphries 0 0 0 0 5 0
79 Samuels 0 0 0 0 2 1
89 Rosenkrantz 0 1 1 0 0 0
55 Dennis 0 0 0 0 1 0
27 Hammond 1 0 0 0 0 0
34 Reynolds 0 1 0 0 0 0
96 Sargent 0 0 1 0 0 0
65 Fatafehi 0 0 0 0 1 0
39 Armagost 1 0 0 0 0 0
68 Newton 0 0 0 0 1 0
23 Patterson 0 0 1 0 0 0

Little Rock Individual Statistics

Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD
23 Dawkins 14 54 3.8 9 0
36 Baker 13 16 1.2 7 0
35 Crawford 6 9 1.5 3 1
16 Coleman 2 6 3.0 3 0
15 Rhodes 1 7 7.0 7 0

Passing Att Comp Yards Yd/Att Long TD Int Sckd
16 Coleman 23 16 176 7.6 36 2 0 0
15 Rhodes 6 6 86 14.3 48 0 0 0

Receiving Catch Yards Avg YAC Long TD
19 Hill 6 132 22.0 35 48 0
45 Clancy 5 29 5.8 7 13 1
82 Howard 3 37 12.3 11 19 0
89 DeWalt 3 23 7.6 2 15 1
36 Baker 2 9 4.5 8 5 0
84 Graham 1 22 22.0 5 22 0
35 Crawford 1 7 7.0 0 7 0
23 Dawkins 1 3 3.0 2 3 0

Punt Returns Att Yards Avg TD
82 Howard 2 4 2.0 0
87 Rose 1 5 5.0 0
18 Wallis 1 -2 -2.0 0

Kick Returns Att Yards Avg TD
18 Wallis 2 41 20.5 0

Punting Punts Yards Avg Long In20
9 Metz 8 268 33.5 50 2

Kicking FG FGA Long PAT Att
7 Bridges 2 2 47 3 3

Defense Tackle Assist Sack Int IntYds IntTD
58 Von Hagel 6 0 0.0 0 0 0
59 Horn 5 2 0.0 0 0 0
32 LaRiche 5 0 0.0 0 0 0
61 Shores 3 0 1.0 0 0 0
48 Bridgeman 3 0 0.0 1 49 0
71 Davison 3 1 0.0 0 0 0
57 Bell 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
39 Carlson 2 2 0.0 0 0 0
44 Armstrong 2 2 0.0 0 0 0
99 Mahoney 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
33 Wetherbee 2 1 0.0 0 0 0
95 John 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
42 Flynn 2 0 0.0 0 0 0
77 Blow 1 2 0.0 0 0 0
62 Strikwerda 1 1 0.0 0 0 0
18 Wallis 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
27 Dennis 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
89 DeWalt 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
35 Crawford 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
23 Dawkins 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
11 Lane 1 0 0.0 0 0 0
79 Wolfe 1 0 0.0 0 0 0

Miscellaneous Fumb FForc Recov MiscTD KeyRBlk SckAlwd
70 Pedersen 0 0 0 0 3 0
99 Mahoney 0 0 1 0 0 0
50 Cates 0 0 0 0 1 0
18 Wallis 1 0 0 0 0 0
32 LaRiche 0 1 0 0 0 0
63 Wooldridge 0 0 0 0 1 0
35 Crawford 0 1 0 0 0 0
11 Lane 0 0 0 0 1 0
19 Hill 1 0 0 0 0 0

Kitty Hawk Drive Chart
Quar Began Poss From Plays Yards Result
1 13:02 2:19 OWN 25 5 18 Punt
1 9:02 3:25 OWN 38 8 62 Touchdown
1 1:51 0:53 OWN 9 3 1 Punt
2 12:21 1:42 OWN 22 3 9 Punt
2 8:31 3:44 OWN 23 6 19 Punt
2 4:05 2:12 OPP 24 4 20 Field Goal
2 0:24 0:24 OWN 34 1 2 Half
3 15:00 1:11 OWN 20 3 5 Punt
3 10:49 0:23 OPP 34 2 -5 Interception
3 9:15 1:37 OWN 24 3 -2 Punt
3 6:25 6:31 OWN 19 13 81 Touchdown
4 13:31 1:17 OWN 35 3 4 Punt
4 6:34 1:46 OWN 34 3 4 Punt
4 1:50 0:55 OWN 27 4 2 Downs
4 0:23 0:23 OWN 13 1 -6 Game

Little Rock Drive Chart
Quar Began Poss From Plays Yards Result
1 15:00 1:58 OWN 20 3 8 Punt
1 10:43 1:41 OWN 28 3 -4 Punt
1 5:37 3:46 OWN 20 8 41 Punt
1 0:58 3:37 OWN 43 7 57 Touchdown
2 10:39 2:08 OWN 23 4 19 Punt
2 4:47 0:42 OWN 11 2 13 Fumble
2 1:53 1:29 OWN 23 3 8 Punt
3 13:49 3:00 OWN 30 5 19 Punt
3 10:26 1:11 OPP 38 3 38 Touchdown
3 7:38 1:13 OWN 32 3 5 Punt
4 14:54 1:23 OWN 20 3 9 Punt
4 12:14 5:40 OWN 19 11 51 Field Goal
4 4:48 2:58 OWN 23 7 77 Touchdown
4 0:55 0:32 OPP 29 3 8 Field Goal

[primelord]

Injuries

SE Everett Rose Doubtful, 2weeks
LDT R.J. Strikwerda Probable, 1 week
WLB Rufus Horn Probable, 4 weeks
WLB Alan Martinez Doubtful, 4 weeks

[primelord]

So we are down to cut down day. We need to cut 7 players from the squad. Any recommendations?

[DolaBump]

Well, Clavell is the obvious first cut

Other cuts:
Lyle (DE) or Armendariz (DE), I would vote Lyle
I'd be willing to cut one of the FS if necessary, but I'd want to look at the coverage stats.
A QB? We probably don't need 4

Side note:
Rhodes, 9-16 163 Yds 1 TD 1 INT
6-6 86 Yds 0 TD 0 INT

Not bad, though probably against the back-ups

[primelord]

I have cut Clavell, Lyle, and Linegar from the roster.

If I were going to pick 4 more people to cut I would probably say QB Houston, RB Dawkins, Fl DeWalt, and MLB Terrell.

[DolaBump]

I would agree on Houston and probably DeWalt, though wade might want to weigh in.

I kind of like Dawkins, but there is something of a glut at RB.

[primelord]

Normally I would like Dawkins too, but we only have so many spots and with the 3 other RB's we have I don't see how Dawkins is going to get any playing time.

With that being said though if anyone has any other suggestions please let me know. I am not going to make any cuts to the offense until either wade or Quik have weighed in. But I will go ahead and but LB Terrell.

[wade moore]

I'll try to weigh in in the morning, off for valentine's now..

[QuikSand]

Hmmm... unless there's a strong reason, I don't think I'd cut a QB here. If we have only 3, and one gets listed as out, we'd then have to go and fish out a rookie bum to sign. Plus, we'd take a bit of future cap hit by cutting any of our veteran QBs. I think we have plenty of stiffs on the team to find other cuts. Just my thought.

[Doug5984]

Originally posted by QuikSand
Hmmm... unless there's a strong reason, I don't think I'd cut a QB here. If we have only 3, and one gets listed as out, we'd then have to go and fish out a rookie bum to sign. Plus, we'd take a bit of future cap hit by cutting any of our veteran QBs. I think we have plenty of stiffs on the team to find other cuts. Just my thought.

Those are my thoughts also, I do not have the game in front of me (and won't until sunday night) but I would think we could find someone else on the team to cut and just have 1 QB inactive.

[primelord]

If we cut anyone else from the defense we are going to be pretty thin on D. Personally I would rather sign a rookie bum to play 3rd string QB than a rookie bum to play 2nd string DT.

[Bee]

I don't see Dawkins gettting much playing time this year. He looks like a prime candidate to be released.

[BigDPW]

How about see what you can get for Dawkins on the Trade market??? Maybe a late pick???

BTW - I would love to be the special teams coach and just look on the FA Market and in the Draft for Special Team contributors to our Little Rock team... I just got the game today in the mail and would love to participate in the Group Think!

Also being from NC I love the Kitty Hawk team name!

[strait8]

My 7 cuts would be:

Clavell
Armanderez and Lyle
Karl monahan- no reason for 3 FB's
Ray Grier-We will take a cap hit of 750K for this and next season
but he is not as good as any other LB. Try trading him maybe worth a 6 0r 7 rd. choice.
Clifton Wallis WR
Claude McGough Try trading Him

[strait8]

How do you post up the statistical reports like that?

[primelord]

MLB Terrell is a better candidate to be cut. Grier is a better run defender and a better zone defender than Terrell. Plus we don't take a cap hit for releasing Terrell.

[wade moore]

My thoughts on who can be cut on the offense:

RB - Bayless or Dawkins.. not sure why everyone wants Dawkins over Bayless, when Dawkins seems to be as good if not better and Dawkins costs less..

FB - Karl Monahan - We have 4 FBs .. we don't need that and he can't block for anything... if we have to cut another one, I say axe .. Idano.. Clancy maybe?

WR - if we have to axe someone, I guess wallis... I actually think I may like him better than Howard, but Howard would give us a cap hit..

OL - I'd rather not get rid of any of these guys...

[QuikSand]

wade, I don't think you have the latest game files... RB Bayless is already gone...

[wade moore]

oh.. haha.. ok, i'll have to go check the files i missed then, thanks for the headds up.. I'm about to go out and be out for most of the day, feel free to make cuts without me, so that I do not hold things up.. If i have the file tomorrow, I can run the first set of games if prime has made the cuts and put his defensive stuff in...

[primelord]

So Quik I think we are looking to you to make the final call on the cuts. I think enough people have weighed in with their opinion.

We still need to cut 4 guys.

[DolaBump]

REal quick, we need to keep Wallis, he's one of our few decent return men.

[QuikSand]

My thinking would be that we cut:

RB Dawkins
WR Howard
FB Monahan
LB Terrell

I like Howard a bit better overall than Wallis, but Wallis has some slight return skills, and since we did nto plan well there, I guess we keep him and let him return kicks...sigh.

[wade moore]

Note to self: Return men next year..

Honestly, I don't think we had a lot of options there.. any WR I looked at, really didn't have much...

Prime.. lemme know when you've got the files and i'll run the games..

[BigDPW]

As I said earlier I don't know if you have a special teams coach but I could devote my eyes to that alone and try to help the team out...

[Bee]

Originally posted by BigDPW
As I said earlier I don't know if you have a special teams coach but I could devote my eyes to that alone and try to help the team out...

We definitely need the help in that area. It seems to have gotten by us a little bit this first year.

[QuikSand]

Originally posted by BigDPW
As I said earlier I don't know if you have a special teams coach but I could devote my eyes to that alone and try to help the team out...

You're hired! Not necessarily for "that alone" - you're welcome to offer advice on everything, as we all are... but please help us keep an eye on having adequate returners, along with a handful of reserves with at least decent ST skills. Great help (we obviously need it).

[wade moore]

prime? you alive man?

[Mike47]

Hey guys, this was posted in one of Group 2's threads. I think he got us mixed up:

GRID IRON: "Sadly, I think someone else should take over as the AFC/NFC West Scout. Suddenly, I've got a trial set each week for the four weeks.

I will, however, observe and chime in when I'm not trying to lock up a bad guy."

[BigDPW]

Glad to be the Special Teams Coach... I will re d/l all of the files and get started trying to figure some stuff out now... Just one other suggestion...

Can we pin a central post with links to all of the Group Think threads on the top of the board... I think that would make keeping up with everything much easier and would make it easier for me to "catch up" on all of the previous decisions...

[primelord]

Ok sorry I have been a little busy this weekend. I have made th final cuts and adjusted the Defensive starting lineups.

Here is the 1st of the updated files.

[primelord]

Here is the 2nd file.

[Doug5984]

Has anyone else had problems downloading the files? I keep getting a "No files to extract" message

[BigDPW]

no problem here...

I am curious however if I missed the cities being renamed file or if we are doing that manually???

[Booj]

I didn't have a problem either

[Doug5984]

That was really wierd...I tried downloading it a few times and I kept getting the same error message...then after a few minuts I decided to try again and it worked....