The Hattrick Epidemic

[Superman=#54]

I would just like to know who is the monkey who started this virus known as Hattrick. This one well made game. Personally Hattrick has me sucked in I am thinking about becoming a supporter sometime in the future. I am a huge fan of european soccer fan and now I get to test my soccer knowledge on this well made game. Everyone should go play this game its pretty damn good.

[McSweeny]

aren't they going to start charging for it? that's what's been detering me

[Qwikshot]

Get it while its free...besides...I'm saving up for Champ Man 4, this will tide me over, and I can play against FOFC members, that rocks!!!

[McSweeny]

damn you qwikshot... i was only like 15 posts behind you 2 weeks ago

[samifan24]

Originally posted by McSweeny
aren't they going to start charging for it? that's what's been detering me

Really? Where did you hear that? I haven't heard that....I did hear that about HAM, though, and I'm hoping that's what you're talking about.

[Qwikshot]

Originally posted by McSweeny
damn you qwikshot... i was only like 15 posts behind you 2 weeks ago

I told you you wouldn't catch me...

btw I think you are thinking of Hattrick Assistant Manager which is now a pay to use item, but the game itself is free...as far as I know...

You can't catch me 'cause the rabbit done died
Yes It Did...

[damnMikeBrown]

I haven't heard a whisper about charging for Hattrick, either. As mentioned above, HAM has become shareware, and that has caused a rather large stir in the community.

I'd like maybe one more game a week, or something else in between. As it is, I just turn the thing on, and look at it. I go from screen to screen, not necessarly looking at anything, just needing to look.

[daedalus]

Y'know I can't remember who started us going to this game, either. Strange.

[McSweeny]

whoops looks like i was confused about what was free and what wasn't

[bbor]

I bet it was Ardent...he gets us all hooked on it and he leaves...the rat bastard :D

[vex]

Ardent, Horned, or DataKing would be my guess.

[samifan24]

Ardent fed me my crack-er-Hattrick addiction.

[HornedFrog Purple]

It wasnt me. I just remember someone posting about it so I signed up. I think ardent and I signed up at the same time. But it is amazing how many people are playing it now. Sometime around October we had like 12 people on the list and now its massive and the fed thing is up to 17 members now when before we scrapped to get the mininum of 6. :)

[vex]

I joined the last year around May or June, but then I forgot about hattrick, unfortunately.

[Poli]

Ahem, let me shed light on the subject. If my memory does not fail me...the one who got both Illini and myself started...is no other than NYFAN with a "hattrick.org?" post. I looked at it, thought, wow, a lot of people signed up for this...and signed up as well. Most of the original people who signed up dropped out...but a few of us...Illini, myself, Horned are still around. I don't remember if DK was part of the group.

However, I do feel responsible for the spread. I apologize to everyone. Wait, that's not right. I don't apologize. You will all have to suffer. Sorry, it's not my idea. Hattrick told me so.

[daedalus]

Good memory. I KNEW we kept you around for a reason. :)

If I'm not mistaken, bbor and myself joined in the first wave as well. He's a game fiend and I'm, well, nosy. [We were suffering withdrawal symptoms from CSMB at the time, I believe.]

[Poli]

I was previously kept around to help "even the odds" for the odd team in trivia bouts. However, I have since switched teams, and abstain from all sport trivia contests so that everyone else has a chance. I was just dominating and it was embarassing.

I felt like a Wig for a while. =-)

[daedalus]

Were you nifty or nasty? :)

[Poli]

I've yet to decide.

[bbor]

I have been around since the first "wave"....but my team STILL sucks :D

[The Afoci]

anyone for a friendly????

Fighting Crawfish (70798)

I just got my team yesterday, so i am no good...at least i think so

[JeeberD]

Alright, I'm off to hattrick.org to check this out. We shall see if the epidemic continues to spread or if I'm immune...

[illinifan999]

bbors, I fell ya man. My team sucks too. At least I am out of debt though. I have a felling in 2007 when HFP's team gets good, we might make a serious run at second place. ;)

[Poli]

Resistance if futile. You will all be assimilated.

[Craptacular]

Originally posted by The Afoci
anyone for a friendly????


Sounds like a bad pick-up line at the bar.

[Qwikshot]

Originally posted by The Afoci
anyone for a friendly????

Fighting Crawfish (70798)

I just got my team yesterday, so i am no good...at least i think so

I can't accept your challenge till the team returns from an international friendly "beating"

[Poli]

Originally posted by Qwikshot
friendly "beating"

Speaking of...still time in the first half...

GM-George Kansas City Cyclones 6, Ardent's North County Raiders 0. :(

[Easy Mac]

Woohoo, my first game as manager, and win 4-2. I'm so shocked I won, I didn't know it'd be this easy.

[moriarty]

I was up 3-0 in my friendly only to lose 3-4 (must be poor stamina). :(

Then again i was playing my scrubs ... or at least what I think were my scrubs.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Story of my hattrick career:

Horned seemed to suffer a certain amount of confusion about the organization of the team.

Horned appeared unsure on how to play.

[bbor]

Originally posted by moriarty
(must be poor stamina)

Stamina is overrated....uhh...so my wife keeps assuring me :D

[samifan24]

In the FOFC Consolation Round which just finished tonight, I won 3-2 in PKs. We were tied 1-1 for the full time and after an OT period, so we went into kicks and I won 3-2. A very exciting match to say the least!

[mrushh]

JeeberD, NNNOOOOOOO.

Don't succumb. I did, and look what happened to me.

[JeeberD]

Well, I signed up for a team. I guess I have to wait a few days before they actually give it to me though. We'll see then whether or not I get sucked in...

[mrushh]

Yeah, JeeberD, they ARE gonna give it to you. It may hurt the first time, though. : )

[bbor]

Why are "freindlies" not so freindly to me?

[Poli]

I lost 11-1! Sometimes, they're not so friendly to me, either.

[bbor]

Originally posted by ardent enthusiast
I lost 11-1! Sometimes, they're not so friendly to me, either.

O.K...i'll shut up now:D

you playing a team at your level?...or higher?

[Easy Mac]

1-0 so far in friendlies. Dacman better watch out next week, I'm coming for him.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Haha GM-George's scrubs could beat all of our teams combined 11 against 390. :D

[Poli]

I played Gm-George...I think he's the top team in D2.

[Poli]

Originally posted by HornedFrog Purple
Haha GM-George's scrubs could beat all of our teams combined 11 against 390. :D

Just surprised I got a goal in. Everyone was playing defensive! Imagine if I put my run and shoot out there. I may have got two goals, but I would have allowed three touchdowns!

[HornedFrog Purple]

My worst beating was against Isonet Toronto 7-0. I traveled there and made 18 cents in exchange-rate. :D

[moriarty]

Is there any advantage/disadvantage to accepting a friendly overseas? I just was offered a match in England (seems like since I'm in last place of the lowest series, I get a lot of offers to boot teams' morale).

Just wondering if the midweek travel overseas tires my players out, or if I potentially could make more $$ off the match.

[bbor]

Originally posted by moriarty
Is there any advantage/disadvantage to accepting a friendly overseas? I just was offered a match in England (seems like since I'm in last place of the lowest series, I get a lot of offers to boot teams' morale).

Just wondering if the midweek travel overseas tires my players out, or if I potentially could make more $$ off the match.

If ya have money to burn it's o.k...but i have NEVER made money on an international freindly.

[NevStar]

The big disadvantage is the $6000 travel fee you have to pay to play an away international friendly. This probably means that you'd lose money unless they drew LOTS of fans.

The advantage is that your players earn double experience, but it's still 5 times less than what they'd earn playing in a league match.

[moriarty]

Ouch. The 6k sounds like a rough deal (especially when no one in their right mind would come see my misfits play).

One more quick question, what is the impact of firing a player? Or bascially, if I can't get anyone to bite on the transfer wire, is there a reason why I shouldn't fire the player to avoid the wage hit?

[SplitPersonality1]

Just want you all to know - that I officially hate you guys for talking up hattrick and getting me hooked.

[Poli]

Was it 6k for traveling? I thought it was less than that. At any rate, if you get a team that draws well for friendlies, it's not that bad. I was pulling in about 6 to 8k for international friendlies...I thought that was covering the trip cost...maybe I was wrong!

[NevStar]

From the rules:

Obviously, flight tickets and hotels are expensive stuff, so you need to pay 6.000 US$ (or whatever equivalent in your own currency) for each International friendly. Friendlies withing your own country are still free though. On the other hand, International friendlies tend to attract more spectators than regular friendlies.


About firing:

I know immediately firing a youth pull has no adverse effects. If you fire an established player, there may or may not be a small spirit decrease.

[Poli]

Shoot. I'll have to average out my last couple of international friendlies to see if I can still issue the guarantee to receive your travel money back.

[daedalus]

You sort of have to be careful who you accept overseas games with. You COULD make a small amount of money if the weather is acceptable and the team is sufficiently popular. I think I did, uhhh, once. Made US$100 or something like that for my drubbing.

Oh . . . and my worst loss beats yours, Horned: 10-0 about 3 weeks ago. In a league game. Ow.

We could sit comfortably for a couple of weeks.

[Poli]

Did you have every player possible playing defensive? I did!

[DataKing]

Hmmm...it appears that my worst loss ever was a 6-nil drubbing at the hands of the Crap Daddies (fun team names in this game). That was in last season's Windy City Cup. There are some high-quality teams in Chicagoland, let me tell ya!

Oh, and I am not to blame for this phenomenon. RavenHawk is the one who got me hooked in the first place.

[Poli]

It's all NYFAN's fault.

Horned and I did our best to spread the crack around, and by golly, it worked really well!

[Poli]

My goal at the moment is to get the good old Skydog assimilated.

After that, maybe I'll work on Ryan.

[illinifan999]

I'm tied for worst drubbing. Daedelus killed me 7-0, and ardent at least allowed a goal for a 8-1 loss on my part. :( We will be good........Soon........I hope......

[RPI-Fan]

You guys are all wrong. It costs six dollars for a friendly. (6.000, right?)

Duh!!!

[Poli]

Thought of another person I need to assimilate: Chief Rum.

[dacman]

Originally posted by Easy Mac
1-0 so far in friendlies. Dacman better watch out next week, I'm coming for him.

You talk big for someone in last place in Div. V.

[PilotMan]

Well I have a couple of announcements:

1) The Midwest Ice Storm FC are officially supporters with a app in to the FOFC Fed.

2) Looking to add to our Fan Club - The Blizzard Bunch

3) Still hoping to get a shot at promotion...last match if the year is against the #1 team, and we are tied in pts...but his squad is way better in paper.

4) Currently in the middle of a 10 match win streak.

5) Still hoping to beat Ardent in the FOFC Cup and move to the Semi's, although without getting a big head happy to be in the Quarters.

6) Looking for a friendly for this week.

7) If you want another game to get you sucked in that is not quite as time addictive. Try Simulated Sports College BBall game. Pretty simple and a good challenge as you play against 250+ other teams in a mock world.

http://209.196.45.56/bask/

8) Last but not least.....has anyone noticed that both the North Country Raiders and Screamin' Seamen are in the top 15 in Fan Club Support. Way to go!!

Midwest Ice Storm FC (70500)

[DataKing]

Originally posted by PilotMan
8) Last but not least.....has anyone noticed that both the North Country Raiders and Screamin' Seamen are in the top 15 in Fan Club Support. Way to go!!

Midwest Ice Storm FC (70500)

I had no idea! Very cool! That's something I had never noticed before.

Don't tell ardent though. The last thing we want is for his head to get any bigger than it already is. :D

[bbor]

And...

My team STILL sucks

[Poli]

Too late! I'll have to go check that out!

[PilotMan]

How many goalies does the average team carry?

What ability level?

Keep in mind I am hovering around the $0 dollar mark waiting for my youth squad to pull in some cash.

[Poli]

I carry one. Most teams carry two, and I've heard of teams with three.

Most carry 2 so that they can protect the starter from friendlies...or that they train keepers. That's fine.

I have had only one keeper for a long time now. I haven't had an injury to any keeper yet either.

If I do, I'll simply buy another off the market. There's sure to be one that is at least somewhat useable for purchase before the next match.

That way I avoid paying the salary of an additional keeper, which are kind of high priced.

[PilotMan]

How many does the typical team carry on a roster?

[Poli]

I'd say 2. I'd suggest one =-)

[bbor]

i have 2....one passable ...one inadequete.....who i will sell once he gets trained up to passable.

Then i will start all over again and buy another Inad keeper.

[HornedFrog Purple]

That reminds me, does anyone have some webspace to put the fed logo? I had it on one of those free ebay auction picture sites. :D

Oh yeah I challenged 79 teams this week. Beat that!

[vex]

I have 2, a solid one (excellent form) and a passable one(solid form).

[bbor]

Originally posted by HornedFrog Purple


Oh yeah I challenged 79 teams this week. Beat that!

Bored??

:D

[HornedFrog Purple]

See I am working on international relations. I boosted Mexico's economy last week so I turned my attention to Poland. All 79 teams were online Polish teams. :D

[Poli]

I'd say you could boost my economy, but my fans don't like your Horned Toad groupies, and therefore boycott every time you come up to North County.

It's sad, but I've learned to deal with it.

[PilotMan]

Originally posted by PilotMan
How many does the typical team carry on a roster?

oops I ment players....how many players does everyone typically carry?

[DataKing]

I carry 22 players typically, my starting squad and my second team. The second team plays in friendly matches and act as backups for the starters.

[Poli]

20-21. One less because of the lack of a second keeper. I sometimes start one player at a different position for both games...in that case, I'll have 20 or even less.

[QuikSand]

I'm still in building mode, so my roster varies wildly... an hour agi I had about 31 players, but I think three just sold off. I am aggressively churning players just to make money... it's the economist in me screaming for an exploitable market. I cannot stop.

[SplitPersonality1]

Originally posted by QuikSand
I'm still in building mode, so my roster varies wildly... an hour agi I had about 31 players, but I think three just sold off. I am aggressively churning players just to make money... it's the economist in me screaming for an exploitable market. I cannot stop.

Quiksand, I am with you 100%. I am trying to find the secret in making money via player turnovers. I will probably end up carrying somewhere between 25 and 35 players until the end of this season, since I am completely out contention anyway.

At the start of season 19, I may settle down to a more reasonable number. I'm playing by ear.

[vex]

Right now I have 20, but I'm looking to have 22.

[daedalus]

It's a soccer sim, it's an RPG, it's an economic sim! Like the Ginzu knife, Hattrick does it all! :)

Hey, it's versatile!

[Chief Rum]

Originally posted by ardent enthusiast
Thought of another person I need to assimilate: Chief Rum.

I just went and applied a few minutes ago. I figured that there is no way in Hell I am not getting Champ Man 4, so I might as well get into soccer mood a little early.

What's really funny, ardent, is that I didn't even read the above quote until after I had joined. I read this thread because I figured I better start reading hattrick threads so I know WTF is going on. :D

Hopefully I will hear from the people that run the site soon. I applied for a team in California (in USA, duh) and my chosen name is the Stonecutters.

My username, not surprisingly, is Chiefrum.

Chief Rum

[Superman=#54]

I have been beaten pretty bad in a friendly by Blade's Bombers 5-1. I only made about a 1000 dollars from the game only 550 people showed up.

[Blade6119]

thats why when i challenged ardent, i chose to go to his place thinking we might get a few more fans to show up. But 5-1 wins are always acceptable in my book.

[bbor]

I...Still suck

[HornedFrog Purple]

Originally posted by daedalus
It's a soccer sim, it's an RPG, it's an economic sim! Like the Ginzu knife, Hattrick does it all! :)

Hey, it's versatile!

Great, thanks for reminding me how many ways I suck at this game.

[Poli]

Originally posted by Chief Rum
I just went and applied a few minutes ago. I figured that there is no way in Hell I am not getting Champ Man 4, so I might as well get into soccer mood a little early.

What's really funny, ardent, is that I didn't even read the above quote until after I had joined. I read this thread because I figured I better start reading hattrick threads so I know WTF is going on. :D

Chief Rum

One down, one to go. SkyDog is next.

Welcome Chief, I'm sure you'll find it interesting, to say the least.

[Chief Rum]

Hey, should I be concerned that my password doesn't work?

I realize I don't have my team yet, but it seemed to allow me to log-in before. It made me think there was stuff I could do, even though I don't have a team, such as check out conferences or talk to people and what not.

Anyway, now it doesn't. I changed my password, so I thought that might be it. But when I went through lost password, the one it sent me was what I expected. And then I went back to the site, and it still didn't work. I was very careful about what username and password I put in (the correct ones, of course).

I certainly hope that this gets cleared up when I get a team.

ardent, I look forward to checking it out. It looks like fun from what little I have been able to understand so far.

Chief Rum

[Easy Mac]

Originally posted by dacman
You talk big for someone in last place in Div. V.

Don't look at me, I just took over this week before the friendlies, so I couldn't control how badly they sucked. I'm 1-0 so far in friendlies, so watch out man.

[Easy Mac]

dola, CR,

are you making sure to keep everything thats capitalized capitalized. I think it would let me in earlier because I forgot to capitalize a letter or 2. Best i can think of.

[Poli]

Chief,

I've heard of user problems like that before. Perhaps you could send a message to one of the hattrick guys if you're still having problems accessing it. If you can, I'd write GM-George.

I've never had problems logging in so I'm afraid I can't help you there.

[samifan24]

Alright, Hattrick breathren, I have a question for you. One of my defenders is suspended. It says he is suspended on his player page and he has a little red card next to his picture. However, when I go to set defenders for my match tomorrow, his name is not greyed out or anything and I'm able to set him into my lineup.

Is this a bug? Will he automatically be replaced by someone else when gametime arrives? I thought players who were suspended were forced to miss one league match. What gives?

[DataKing]

Originally posted by samifan24
Alright, Hattrick breathren, I have a question for you. One of my defenders is suspended. It says he is suspended on his player page and he has a little red card next to his picture. However, when I go to set defenders for my match tomorrow, his name is not greyed out or anything and I'm able to set him into my lineup.

Is this a bug? Will he automatically be replaced by someone else when gametime arrives? I thought players who were suspended were forced to miss one league match. What gives?

Do not put him in your line-up. Even though he is not grayed-out or anything, he still cannot play in your next league match. I believe that, if you did list him as a starter, you would play the entire match short a man.

Best just to list a different defender as your starter.

[samifan24]

Thanks for the heads up. I'll go make the change now.

[The_herd]

Anyone want to take an educated guess as to how many weeks of training this guy might be from passable keeping? And also, how the hell does powerful affect a keeper?

Erauso Lestón
120 000 US$, 23 years, weak form
Has wretched experience and wretched leadership abilities [Powerful]

Stamina: passable Keeper: inadequate
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: wretched Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: passable

[JeeberD]

Dammit, I still haven't recieved my team. I'm getting kinda anxious here...

[Eilim]

You people are evil... Just had to keep talking about it, didn't you. Hmmm, 79th on the waiting list. I guess that will give me time to read up and learn the game though.

Look forward to being made to look silly by all you guys once I do get a team. ;)

[Airhog]

Once you learn the basics of the game, its really easy and addictive to play.

[bbor]

I'm starting to think that Hattrick should be paying us royalties for all the customers we are bringing them :D

either that or sueing us for crashing their servers :eek:

[Poli]

Originally posted by bbor
I'm starting to think that Hattrick should be paying us royalties for all the customers we are bringing them :D

either that or sueing us for crashing their servers :eek:

I think I should be GM-Ardent. :cool:

[vex]

I heard there might be a 6th league in the USA next year, they might be making you wait until next season.

[Airhog]

hmm if that is the case, how will it work? will they reduce the number of people in the 5th division? who will be relegated? Would 5th leaguers be making more money from sponsers and such?

[mrushh]

Yeah, baby, YEAH.

With the latest weekly update, my Youth Squad has made it to Passable.
And, FYI, if you are wondering, as I did, it only took 3 weeks to go from Inadequate to Passable.

[samifan24]

Speaking of good news from the youth squad, mine just cranked out a solid 19 yr old defender. Exactly when I needed one too. Sure, my team is abysmal, but at least they make it interesting for me. :D

[daedalus]

Originally posted by The_herd
Anyone want to take an educated guess as to how many weeks of training this guy might be from passable keeping?

I'd imagine a fair bit of time since he's already 23. If you want one to train up to passable, I would look for one under 20.

And also, how the hell does powerful affect a keeper?

I would guess little to no effect. The biggest effect seems to be that they'd tire out more in sunny weather at positions where they run around a lot and more able to handle the slippery of rain a bit better. But, they don't run around a lot. So, I'd imagine little or no effect.

[daedalus]

Originally posted by samifan24
Speaking of good news from the youth squad, mine just cranked out a solid 19 yr old defender. Exactly when I needed one too. Sure, my team is abysmal, but at least they make it interesting for me. :D

*sigh*, I hate you all. Another inadequate SOB for me. Hoo-ray!

[JeeberD]

I've got my team!!! Time for the Dallas Donut Kings to start taking shape. Hell yeah...

[Airhog]

I just cranked out an 18 yo that is indaquete at defense, playmaking, and set pieces. He is passable at scoring. Im gonna keep this guy, and train him up next season on scoring, he looks to be my best scorer with some help.

[Chief Rum]

Originally posted by JeeberD
I've got my team!!! Time for the Dallas Donut Kings to start taking shape. Hell yeah...

So Jeeber, when did you apply for a team? Trying to get an idea when I will get one.

I also still haven't yet heard from anyone at hattrick regarding my inability to get into the site with my password and username. I emailed the USA guy, which is this GM-George you guys are talking about apparently. Hopefully I will hear from someone in the very near future.

Chief Rum

[Poli]

I imagine you will Chief, I get responses fairly quickly from him.

[bbor]

Originally posted by JeeberD
Dallas Donut Kings to start taking shape

Is this what they call an oxymoron? :D

[JeeberD]

Gotta get them into shape with a training table of nothing but the finest Krispy Kreams and milk. They should be the heaviest team in the league.

Oh, wait, this isn't American football...

[Eilim]

Chief, I've had the same thing happen to me on occasion. What seems to work for me is to make sure I'm at the "USA" page before trying to log in. (Note: I applied for a team in the "USA", if you applied for a team in another league would probably want to use that page.)

[JeeberD]

Originally posted by Chief Rum
So Jeeber, when did you apply for a team? Trying to get an idea when I will get one.

I applied for a team Wednesday night and got it a couple of hours ago...

[DataKing]

Originally posted by vexroid
I heard there might be a 6th league in the USA next year, they might be making you wait until next season.

This wouldn't surprise me at all. Presently we're at 2,543 teams in the U.S., and there's only room for 2,728. To give you guys an idea of how quickly this thing is growing, I've been keeping a rough track of the number of teams in the U.S.

9/20/02 - 1,601
11/4/02 - 1,801
12/10/02 - 2,135
1/4/03 - 2,206
1/26/03 - 2,326
2/22/03 - 2,543

At the rate the U.S. league is growing, we could feasibly run out of openings by the end of March.

[vex]

Hey, at least I wouldn't be on the bottom league anymore!

[bbor]

Hmm...i'm sure there will be some attrition at the end of this season

[Chief Rum]

Well, GM George fixed my log in. Yay!

Now, I'm back to just waiting for a team. If Jeeber's wait is any indication, I should get a team late tomorrow or sometime Monday. But then, when I first joined (yesterday), there were 42 teams ahead of me on the waiting list. Now there are just 14. So, maybe I will be in by midday tomorrow at this rate.

Chief Rum

[bbor]

Just don't call them the Mighty Ducks Chief :D

[daedalus]

Originally posted by Airhog
I just cranked out an 18 yo that is indaquete at defense, playmaking, and set pieces. He is passable at scoring. Im gonna keep this guy, and train him up next season on scoring, he looks to be my best scorer with some help.

This is just my opinion* so, y'know, grain of salt and all that, but I'd consider selling the kid to pad the bottomline. I've always had more luck with forwards with both scoring and passing than one with just scoring (ie, inadequate/passable versus passable scoring). I haven't had too much luck with good rating scoring forwards who doesn't have the passing to back it up. Mileage varying and all that.

*I'd, umm, solicit opinions from the more clued folks here before taking any of my advice with any seriousness. Heh. :)

[Airhog]

oops I didnt mention that his passing is weak.

[Airhog]

dola here, but my other scorers are not that much better, and both are getting to be pretty old at 28, actually my best scorer is now the third best after losing a rating after a nasty injury :(

[daedalus]

Wow. How bad was the injury?

Hrm. Weak isn't too bad, especially given his age. If you want to keep him and use him long term, I'd strongly consider training in passing for a bit. At Weak, he'd only be two spots away from passable there.

[Poli]

Both Jerome Bettis and Dave Sumner, my solid scorers, are weak passers.

Jerome led V.92 in scoring last season, and Sumner is my leading scorer this season.

[PilotMan]

Cry....sniff....wimper.

Just shelled out 180000 for a passable coach.

[PilotMan]

dola

I just pulled a forward by the name of Kong Foo-Foo.

10000 AV

Keep or dump?

[bbor]

Keep fim...just for the name

[bbor]

Originally posted by bbor
Keep him...just for the name :D

[daedalus]

Originally posted by ardent enthusiast
Both Jerome Bettis and Dave Sumner, my solid scorers, are weak passers.

Jerome led V.92 in scoring last season, and Sumner is my leading scorer this season.

Voila. Differing opinion. :)

None of my scorers are solid and I only play my wingers on offensive, so I don't know if that means anything. If I had a solid scorer on hand, maybe my opinion would be different. I mean, I probably wouldn't pass up a solid scorer/weak passer in favour of a inadequate passer/passable passer.

Of course, too each his own. :)

[Poli]

Bettis led the v.92 in scoring last year as a passable scorer. Passing may be somewhat important for mids, but I have my doubts as to the importance for my forwards.

[Easy Mac]

Damn, I'm really starting to like this game. Took over a last place team, and I'm actually winning (though I'll probably lose now). But dammit I can't stop spending $$$ on transfers.

[moriarty]

I know what you mean about the transfer market (freakin addictive).

BTW - Just won my first game 4-1. I'm no longer in last place of the bottom league. :)

[The_herd]

My team just failed to show up offensively against the 6th place team in my league, I ecked out a 1-0 win. My defense was incredible though:

Right Side Defence: excellent
Central Defence: formidable
Left Side Defence: excellent

pretty impressive I thought, although as usuall, my offense sucked so bad I wont even post it.

[Airhog]

wow, those are some good numbers, If my team could put those up, Id be in first place :D

[Poli]

Redeemed myself from the 11-1 shellacking with a 10-0 shutout.

Trevor Penn somehow scores a clean sheet.

[Easy Mac]

I banged out a 4-1 away win in my 1st league game. Problem is, my guy who scored 2 goals this game (named Garfield Hooker) got red carded in the 52nd. Best I could do was passable with my center D.

Overall I'm happy though, I kicked some ass, and moved from last to sixth. So far I'm 2-0 outscoring 8-3.

[samifan24]

I won 5-0 against my league's worst team. However, I am more excited that one of my players, Hector Li, recorded his first career hat trick and my left and central defense were rated "formidable," while my right defense was rated "solid." These were my first two "formidable" ratings, so although I'm $250,000 in debt, I have a reason to be proud.

Incidentally, how deep do you have to be in debt before Hattrick takes your team away from you? Obviously I'm not taking on payroll or anything and I'm doing my best to trim costs but should I be worried my team might be taken away from me?

[illinifan999]

Damn this game. I just had my starting keeper get hurt for three weeks. Now I must decide if I want to spend 150,000 on a keeper to play until he is back. :(

[Easy Mac]

Pretty sure its 500,000. Then you get a stern warning or something. You pretty much have to sell off al your players.

[The_herd]

At $500,000 they take it from you.

[NevStar]

if you get to ($500,000), you have 5 logins to fix it, THEN they take it from you.

[mrushh]

I tied the #1 team in my series, 1-1. Last time they beat me, 5-0, so I am VERY pleased.

[Doug5984]

I just got a team, and the first thing i did was make a little bitty mistake...The guy listed as my backup keeper was Wretched in Keeper so i decided to put him on the market...his value was $29,000 so i asked for $20,000....Now after reading up on the game some more These are his ratings:

Stamina: Wretched Keeper: Wretched
Playmaking: Poor Passing: Inadequate
Winger: Inadequate Defending: Wretched
Scoring: Inadquate Set Pieces: Poor

From the looks of his ratings he should be playing forward but I listed him on the transfer wire as a Keeper, is there anyway to change this? Can i take him off of the transfer wire? Is $20,000 asking way to much for this guy, to low?

If one of you would like to pick him up...his name is Xavi Matas, 25 years.

[NevStar]

Don't worry too much about it. Most usually search by ratings & completely ignore the position they're listed under.

I'm guessing he probably won't get any bids, as he's too old to train, and only useful as a stopgap starter.

If he does get bids, you can always outbid that team & buy him back. In this case, all you'd pay is the agent fees (3% of the buying cost, I think). Good luck!

[Coffee Warlord]

Muah. 8-0 PIC (play it cool), with a formidable/excellent/solid attack line. Still pissed Ardent beat me out on goals scored though. We had a great competition going. :)

FEAR ME! Next week we MOTS the #1 team in the series. I almost feel bad for him, as he's a real nice guy, and is in a big race to the finish with the 2nd place team. I get the role of the spoiler.

[Poli]

We certainly did. To be honest, it wasn't until I was doing my write up that I noticed Bettis got in a last second shot!

[HornedFrog Purple]

The team is undefeated for 11 competition games and has 2 wins in a row :cool: :cool: :cool:

[Poli]

Originally posted by HornedFrog Purple
The team is undefeated for 11 competition games and has 2 wins in a row :cool: :cool: :cool:

I'm going to go on the record as saying Horned and the 451 are pathetic. Win big, or don't win at all :D

Love ya Horned.

edit, dang socks.

[vex]

3-5-1?

[Chief Rum]

I just got my team!

I am the Stonecutters in USA.IV (I think I have that right). Is that good?

Anyway, I can't seem to be able to tell what position anyone is. And I welcome any suggestions for what I should familiarize myself with first. I look forward to my first match (the time of which I also don't know but hope to discover soon).

Chief Rum

[Poli]

Originally posted by vexroid
3-5-1?

aggh...horned's team confused me...it was the socks!

[HornedFrog Purple]

No, he is just used to one of my guys getting a red card.

[Poli]

I wouldn't flatter yourself. It's the socks, man. Buy a washing machine; those things are rotting!

[Easy Mac]

Originally posted by Chief Rum
I just got my team!

I am the Stonecutters in USA.IV (I think I have that right). Is that good?

Anyway, I can't seem to be able to tell what position anyone is. And I welcome any suggestions for what I should familiarize myself with first. I look forward to my first match (the time of which I also don't know but hope to discover soon).

Chief Rum

There are 5 divisions in the US, so you're in the next to last division, I'd say most people get teams in division 5.

There are not positions per se. Rather, players have specific abilities, and it is up to you to determine by these abilities where each person should play. There seems to be a pretty good run down of this in the about link, but I didn't look at it but for a second. Basically, try to find players with certain abilities that look to go well with certain positions (i.e. defending, wing, and stamina for the wing; defending, passing and stamina for the center d)

Hope that helps.

edit: Matches are played around 8 pm eastern (5 pacific I guess) on Sundays and Wednesdays I think. Lineups 15 minutes prior for each.

[PilotMan]

I think its a 4-5-1.....I too play a 4-5-1. Check this out:

The team is undefeated for 10 competition games and has 10 wins in a row


AHHHHHH YYYYAAAAAAAAA. Can you feel it?

[Coffee Warlord]

You freaks and your 4-5-1's.

Run and Shoot is where it's at, boys. Defense is for wimps. :)

edit: And as proof of the power of the 3-5-2 run and shoot, 2 of my players are tied for the top scorers in the series, and I have another on the top 10 list.

Goal differential of 40-32. Yessir, just keep the ball away from my defensive front and we rock.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Chief since you have an idea of positions from CM I would download this:

http://www.lokesoftware.dk/osr/hattrick/ham/index.htm

Its Hattrick Assistant Manager, it will download your team file and label your guys in their best position.

I would also strongly recommend reading this page. There is a ton of info in there.

http://www.databased.at/hattrick/index.asp

[Poli]

Originally posted by PilotMan
I think its a 4-5-1.....I too play a 4-5-1. Check this out:

The team is undefeated for 10 competition games and has 10 wins in a row


AHHHHHH YYYYAAAAAAAAA. Can you feel it?

I can feel it, but it's about to make me throw up :(

:)

[HornedFrog Purple]

Goals are for wimps.

[Poli]

Originally posted by Coffee Warlord
You freaks and your 4-5-1's.

Run and Shoot is where it's at, boys. Defense is for wimps. :)

edit: And as proof of the power of the 3-5-2 run and shoot, 2 of my players are tied for the top scorers in the series, and I have another on the top 10 list.

Goal differential of 40-32. Yessir, just keep the ball away from my defensive front and we rock.

My protege...I'm so proud of you! But you do need to score more!

[PilotMan]

Defense is definately good for me... How about this record since I took over:
Matches GF-GA Points
Midwest Ice Storm FC 7 24 - 2 21

Its not 10 goals per match though.

[Poli]

Originally posted by HornedFrog Purple
Chief since you have an idea of positions from CM I would download this:

http://www.lokesoftware.dk/osr/hattrick/ham/index.htm

Its Hattrick Assistant Manager, it will download your team file and label your guys in their best position.

I would also strongly recommend reading this page. There is a ton of info in there.

http://www.databased.at/hattrick/index.asp

I'd suggest staying away from Horned and his socks. I'd also suggest a high flying, exciting offense. Should you trust a guy who's going on his fourth year in D5 :D ?

Love ya Horned!

[HornedFrog Purple]

My status is legendary. I will show the world 4-5-1 is the system. Not sure when but it will happen someday and then all you scoring meglomaniacs will want the secret!

Check back on this post in 2007. I warned you now.

[Poli]

Is that when you plan on advancing to D4?

[PilotMan]

I was thinking that we should try and raise the power of FOFC in hattrick by getting all the current teams to supporter status and build our fed.

None of us are high now, but imagine the possibilites when we develop our teams to that level. What if the FOFC fed had 50 supporters?

Just a thought. Albeit a cool idea.

[Easy Mac]

To join a fed you have to be a supporter, correct?

[PilotMan]

yes, about the price of a magazine subscription.

around $20

[Poli]

Originally posted by Easy Mac
To join a fed you have to be a supporter, correct?

Yep, I did it. Cost just over 20 bucks...for a year that's pretty cheap. I've got games I payed 50 for that I wish I hadn't...but this 20 I'm glad.

[Easy Mac]

Damn, why couldn't it be like SAAP where I paid 25 for lifetime updates... Guess I'll have to wait til after books next term.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Well to be perfectly honest, 99.9% of all discussion goes on in this board. The goal when ardent and I formed the fed was to get people in a more familiar surrounding and we tossed the idea back and forth about having a tournament. We didnt even know if we could pull the first one off.

Next season will be massive as we have 50+ teams on the list so a change in format to group play may be a necessity for the Cup. I have to ponder that pretty quickly.

Easy Mac, yeah but you dont have to be a supporter to play in the FOFC Cup or consolation rounds or anything.

Just in perspective, the lowest fed on the top-15 has 200-something members. I never dreamed we would be hitting 20 members by now.

[PilotMan]

You know whats expensive? Playing Sporting News Strat O Matic Online. Its a great game and a lot of fun. I fact I spent a lot of last summer playing it but at $25 per team, with a season lasting just a few weeks I am glad I have found some other equally entertaing and much easier on the pocketbook games. See my sig.

[Poli]

Originally posted by HornedFrog Purple
Well to be perfectly honest, 99.9% of all discussion goes on in this board. The goal when ardent and I formed the fed was to get people in a more familiar surrounding and we tossed the idea back and forth about having a tournament. We didnt even know if we could pull the first one off.

Next season will be massive as we have 50+ teams on the list so a change in format to group play may be a necessity for the Cup. I have to ponder that pretty quickly.

Easy Mac, yeah but you dont have to be a supporter to play in the FOFC Cup or consolation rounds or anything.

Just in perspective, the lowest fed on the top-15 has 200-something members. I never dreamed we would be hitting 20 members by now.

Those were the days, huh, Horned? It certainly didn't look like hattrick would get off the ground at first. Not that we cared...we liked hattrick anyway!

Horned, you can email me the ideas if you'd like. We'll definitely have to group it up next year I'm afraid. Yuck I hate group play. Single elimination...ya da ya da ya da 352...451...yeah I know...we never agree!

Easy, we had talked about just fed members...but we wanted everyone at fofc to have the opportunity to play. I don't want to exclude anyone (like you, for example) that can't afford supporter.
What's the fun in that?

[Easy Mac]

DOn't worry, eventually I was going to either do the supporter thing or the HAM reg. But I haven't really used HAM in a couple days, and I'd rather have a logo.

[DataKing]

Seems to be a little bragging going on this evening, so I think I'll join in.

<pre><font face=courier>
No. Team Played Goals Pts.
1. Screamin’ Seamen 11 45-11 29
2. Ramblers 11 57-7 28
3. Croats in Miami 11 36-15 27
4. Neon Genesis Evangelion 11 31-12 18
5. Farmer of Fire 11 15-20 14
6. Gazzaly FC 11 12-45 7
7. Cariocas 11 12-43 5
8. The Cheats 11 4-59 0
</pre></font>

There's no place like first place, baby. :D

[bbor]

4-5-1 UBER ALLES

Way to go Data.....Hang on for promption.

[vex]

I think I'm going to have to pay for HAM, I don't know that I could do without it.


As for supporter, you could always pay 5 or 6 bucks to get the 3 month subscription.

[vex]

Wow DK, that's pretty awesome. Sad thing is though, in just one week, you could be all the way down to 3rd.

[DataKing]

Originally posted by vexroid
Wow DK, that's pretty awesome. Sad thing is though, in just one week, you could be all the way down to 3rd.

Very true, and nothing is in the bag just yet. We just beat Ramblers to take over 1st place, and we have to play the 3rd and 4th place teams yet tbis season. It should be an interesting run.

Maybe I'm just greedy, but I want to be the first FOFC team to reach Division 3. :D

[Doug5984]

Which of these 2 keepers should I start? Fernandez was the listed keeper when i got the team, but in his first game her gave up 6 goals :(.


David Fernández (8440211)
28 years, solid form, healthy

A pleasant guy who is temperamental and honest.
Has poor experience and inadequate leadership abilities.


Speciality: Technical

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 24 000 US$
Wage: 680 US$/week
Owner: Louisiana Cyclones
Warnings: 0


Stamina: disastrous Goaltending: poor
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: wretched
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: inadequate



or


Curtis Moore (8373383)
21 years, passable form, healthy

A popular guy who is calm and honest.
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 17 000 US$
Wage: 600 US$/week
Owner: Louisiana Cyclones
Warnings: 0


Stamina: wretched Goaltending: poor
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: poor



They are both poor in goaltending...should I start Moore who is younger, and rated the same, or should I start Fernandez who is older has more experience, but gave up 6 goals...Should I get rid of the guy who is not going to start for me? And lastly Fernandez has [Technical] next to his information when I look at my players, what does this mean?

Also, is anyone up for a friendly this week, my team # is 72080.

[bbor]

Buy a new tender....make sure he is at least Passable...i would'nt start either of those guys unless it was in a friendly.

[DataKing]

I agree with bbor 100%. Those guys should be working the McDonalds drive-thru, not tending the net.

[PilotMan]

Passable is quite expensive to start, even if you were in a crunch, an inadequate goalie maybe better suited. Could be a 75000 price diff. I have been winning with one, in fact he just improved to passable.

I have one for sale on the transfer market now..

Peter Hastings
113 000 US$, 21 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities

Stamina: wretched Keeper: inadequate
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: weak

Currently going for 26000, ends in about 10 hrs.

I think most passable goalies will go near 100000, though you may find one a little cheaper. I also agree you will need to work toward a better keeper if you want your team to improve.

[Poli]

If you have to, start the one with solid form.

[dacman]

I picked up a passable keeper (21yo) with passable form for $115,000 a couple of weeks ago. Inadequate keepers usually run $25-35,000. I'd spend the money to get at least 1 inad. keeper.

In other news, I just got a passable coach with 1 try. I'm a lucky SOB.


Edit: wrong keeper age

[Doug5984]

Originally posted by dacman
I picked up a passable keeper (24yo) for $115,000 a couple of weeks ago. Inadequate keepers usually run $25-35,000. I'd spend the money to get at least 1 inad. keeper.

In other news, I just got a passable coach with 1 try. I'm a lucky SOB.


Thanks for all the help guys, I am going after a passable and an inadequate keeper...right now the passable is less but his price will probably skyrocket so I will more than likely try to get the inadiquate guy.

I got a passable coach with my first try also, this morning i saw my coach was poor so i fired him and luckly got a passable guy.

[PilotMan]

You guys both suck it cost me 180000 to get my passable coach.

[vex]

I spent $400,000 trying to get an upgrade from my passable coach. After $400,000, I settled for another passable coach:(

[Poli]

I suppose the solid coach will be my next venture after the solid keeper.

[Easy Mac]

I'm thinking about changing my coach as he's wretched with poor leadership. But right now my team is composed and has strong confidence. Should I get the better coach and take a hit in confidence and spirit, or should I ride this one out until the stuff goes down.

[Poli]

I'd get the better coach immediately.

[Easy Mac]

Would you guys say this coach is OK?

Lloyd Elrod (8486894)
34 years, disastrous form, healthy

A inadequate coach who goes all out
A pleasant guy who is temperamental and honest.
Has excellent experience and passable leadership abilities

Now everytime I look at him I'm going to be thinking of Lord Elron for some reason... then it will lead me to the Matrix... " I'm going to enjoy watching you die Mr Anderson"..."My name, is Neo"

[Poli]

Two more types of coaches are better....
Passable coach that goes all out
Solid Coach that goes all out.

It's up to you to determine if you want to go further. Since you're just beginning...you may not want to fork any more money over.

[DataKing]

Elrod looks like he should be able to get the job done for you, at least for the time being. While only an inadequate coach, he's got good experience and leadership abilities, as well as a pretty good personality.

I'd say keep him for the time being. Wait until you have a season or two under your belt (and are hopefully in Division IV) before going for another one.

[Easy Mac]

Thanks guys. Now time to find players

[DataKing]

I was just going to dola-post. You're probably better off right now spending on players. :)

[Easy Mac]

oh yeah, and if my player gets a red in a league game (2 yellows, but whatever), is he out for the next league or the next friendly, or both?

[Poli]

Just the league match.

[Doug5984]

Originally posted by DataKing
You're probably better off right now spending on players. :)

How much should I start off spending right away? Currently I have bought 2 very cheap guys ($1,000 & $2,000) and 1 expensive (atleast to me) keeper for $28,000. This is my first week with the team and I don't want to put them into debt right away...So how much money should I devote to trying to find some good players for my roster?


Edit: What would you guys suggest I do with this guy:
Lou Lynch
145 000 US$, 28 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and solid leadership abilities

Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: passable
Winger: wretched Defending: passable
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: poor

He is passable in defending, passing, and scoring...I am thinking I will be running the 4-5-1 since my coach likes a defensive game, should I use him as a mid-fielder? Forward? Defender?

[Coffee Warlord]

I'd play him as a midfielder, depending on the rest of your team. If you have a lot of playmakers on your team, he'd also make a good choice for an offensive central defender.

And, as for how much to spend...

Don't get 350,000 in debt like I am right now. 'Nuff said. :)

[DataKing]

Doug5984: Like Coffee Warlord mentioned, it depends on what other sorts of players you have. Lou looks like he'd be best played at either forward or defender. If you have a better option at one of those positions, then consider playing him at the other one.

I do see one problem with having Lou on your team, however. I see that he has the highest leadership rating on your club, which means that he is automatically the team "clown." This means that he is sort of the "locker room leader" of the team. Combine that with his "nasty" personality, and he may have a detrimental affect on your team's spirit and confidence.

Now, having said that, don't run right out and sell him. He's the most highly valued player on your team, and has some talent. Just be aware of the fact that he may be having detrimental "side-effects."

[Neuqua]

Ugh.

This thread got me. I just signed up for a team. I'll let you guys know when I get a chance to play.

Neuqua

[samifan24]

We should all be getting royalties for this thread. It's like Hattrick propoganda.

[DataKing]

I wonder if there is any single on-line community out there that has more active Hattrick managers than FOFC.

[Doug5984]

Another question...

I noticed that you can just Fire players...Is firing a player better than trying to just sell him off for $1,000? Is there penalty for firing a player? I have a 3rd string Keeper on my team who is valued at $2,000 should I try and sell him for $1,000 or just fire him?

[samifan24]

The penalty for firing a player is $1,000 I believe. As you noted, $1,000 is also the listing fee, so if you think you can get something for the guy, then go ahead a list him but if you really think he's a dud, just get rid of him.

[vex]

Firing a player is free.

[illinifan999]

No it does cost you 1,000. If it doesnt, then I wonder where that money has been going when I fire a player. Maybe he steals it. The bastard. ;)

[mrushh]

Doug5984, the first things I did when I got my team were:

1) find a passable keeper
2) put youth squad to 20k
3) sell ALL my players 27 years old or older, no matter what (especially the good ones)

Of course, when I got the team, we were in last place, so I figured, what the hell difference if I lose. Well, with the money I got, I now have ALL starters passable and am in 4th place (fairly handily) with 7 games in a row won or tied. It amazes me I beat people in my series. I think some Hattrickers are just stupid (I know that is hard to believe).

Anyway, the point is, if you aren't moving up in the standings, get $$$ for old players while you can (rules say players start to slide at age 27, I think). Build for the future, and listen to those on the board who are much better than I. That's what I did, and they always steer me straight.

[Doug5984]

Originally posted by mrushh
Doug5984, the first things I did when I got my team were:

3) sell ALL my players 27 years old or older, no matter what (especially the good ones)


Is this one really a good thing to do? If players start declining after 27, will anyone even buy them? I have 10 players that are 27 or older, 6 of them are on my starting roster, and 1 on the reserve. My team is currently # 4 in my league division whatever thing...Is it really a good idea to just get rid of so many starting players?

[Coffee Warlord]

I'm 99% sure firing a player is free. Transfer listing him is 1000, youth pull is 2000.

[vex]

It costs $1,500 to fire a specialist, maybe that's what you all were thinking of.

[mrushh]

Doug5984, if you are #4 in your series, I would NOT sell ALL the oldsters. As i said, I was in last place when I did it and had no idea I could go undefeated for 7 straight. If you are top 4 in series, I believe there is no chance of worry about relegation whatever level you are.

In that case I would sell the worst of your old guys. You will eventually be quite surprised at the stupidity of some Hattrickers and what they pay at times. Remember, dozens of newbs come into the game EVERY DAY and lots have no clue about transfers. They see a passable and bid without looking at other important stuff.

Again, if I was in 4th, I would sell only marginal oldies and then sell others as you clinch upper half of series. Ask other FOFC folks to see what they say. That is how I did it, and it has worked so far.

[Airhog]

I see older players selling all the time. It can be quite a good move to pick up an older impact player cheap for just one season, or until his ratings go down. Also older players usually are experienced, and can also have high leadership.

[mrushh]

For those of you confused (or not), my point was, IF IN REBUILDING MODE, sell your older players.

I, too, have purchased an old dude as stopgap for, as an example, when I had a player go down for 4 weeks. He WAS cheaper, though I planned to sell him in the week when my guy came back.

[robbgmaier]

mrushh,

if you finish 5th or 6th in your division, you will have to play a match against a lower division winner to avoid relegation. Half of those teams automatically move up, the other half play a qualification match, against the 5th or 6th of a higher division. All 7th and 8th finishers go down unless they are already in the basement.

So, unless they are well clear of 5th, they can still be relegated.

rob

[mrushh]

Thanks, rob. I guess I could read all the rules, but I am REALLY too lazy to do that. It is kinda pitiful, but I'm too old to worry about it now. Just a cross I must bear with as much dignity as I can muster. :)

[Radii]

I just signed up for a team. Hooray.

[bbor]

I heart this thread

[Poli]

Originally posted by bbor
I heart this thread

I wondered if I would ever see that line here!:)

[Doug5984]

What is the lowest division? Right now I am # 4 in V.237, should I be worried about falling to Div VI? do they even have that? I was planning on going younger on my team this season in the hopes that in the next season or the season after that I will have a very good young team.

[McSweeny]

i've been reading through several hattrick threads and now i can't wait to play... wish they'd hurry up and give me my team dammnit!

[Poli]

No worry needed Doug. D5 is the lowest.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Doug5984, if you ever want to know the lowest division, just check out my team they will most likely be there. Seriously though right now the US has 5 divisions.

[DataKing]

There is the possibility of Hattrick adding a 6th division in the U.S. at the end of the coming season. But if they did this, I don't think bottom-feeder teams in Division 5 would be threatened with relegation to Division 6 this season.

[sterlingice]

Don't worry too much about it. Most usually search by ratings & completely ignore the position they're listed under.
They have positions on the transfer market? ;)

I am the Stonecutters in USA.IV (I think I have that right). Is that good?
Wow- that's pretty impressive. I won't be seeing IV until at least next season if not 2 from now.

You freaks and your 4-5-1's.
Run and Shoot is where it's at, boys. Defense is for wimps.
I try to mix it up, I run a 3-5-2 but with a winger and middie always playing offensive.


Defense is definately good for me... How about this record since I took over:
Matches GF-GA Points
Midwest Ice Storm FC 7 24 - 2 21
5. Houston Hippopotami 7 25 - 8 18
I'll take my record but my 4-0 defeat at the hands of the league leader last week was pretty sobering.

Which of these 2 keepers should I start? Fernandez was the listed keeper when i got the team, but in his first game her gave up 6 goals .
Just echoing what most people said: get an inad goalie. You should be able to get a young one for about $20K if you are patient. Passables are nice but they'll go for close to $100K.

Now everytime I look at him I'm going to be thinking of Lord Elron for some reason... then it will lead me to the Matrix... " I'm going to enjoy watching you die Mr Anderson"..."My name, is Neo"
At least I'm not the only one half expecting: "And you, too, shall be in the Fellowship, Mr Anderson" in that voice of his. I figured that was a voice for the Matrix but if LotR is any indication, he actually speaks like that.

Edit: What would you guys suggest I do with this guy:
Lou Lynch
He's a forward, easily since he's good at both passing and scoring unless you really need a defender. Actually, if it were me, I would sell him since he's 28 and start training young guys you can afford with his cash.

Doug5984, if you are #4 in your series, I would NOT sell ALL the oldsters. As i said, I was in last place when I did it and had no idea I could go undefeated for 7 straight. If you are top 4 in series, I believe there is no chance of worry about relegation whatever level you are.
Might want to wait until after the season or early next season since 4th place nets you some cash at the end of the season.

SI

[DataKing]

Defense is for wimps? Pardon me?

Screamin' Seamen League Records

League Matches: 25
-Wins: 22
-Draws: 3
-Losses: 0

-Goals Scored: 101
-Goals Allowed: 18 (0.72 per game)

-Clean sheets for goalkeepers: 13


Yeah...defense is for wimps. :rolleyes: ;)

[sterlingice]

That's right! Wimps! If you can't stand a little exciting 5-5 match now and again, you're just a little sissy! That's right, I'm talking to you. You, team... in... div IV... in 1st place... no less. I'll let Coffee Warlord handle this.

SI

[HornedFrog Purple]

Offense wins chicks, defense wins games. It is just where your priorities lie. :D

[vex]

All about the offense:)

[DataKing]

LMAO!

Chicks dig the long ball, I know. But I think chicks dig rich owners of Major League teams even more.

Not that I'm one of those, mind you (yet).

:D

[vex]

I'm the next Kansas City Wizards. In 25-30 seasons that is.

[DataKing]

I know it would take forever and a day, if it were possible at all, but it would be really sweet if the Major League was occupied by nothing but FOFC teams.

Someday...maybe...just after hell freezes over. :cool:

[vex]

I would settle for one.

[QuikSand]

Ugh. I've made 47 transfers in the month of February. I've even given up on assigning jersey numbers.

Here's the puzzle? How many of my players are currently on the transfer list?

2/3, of course. Heh.






help me.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Hehe don't worry Quiksand. This guy is the undisputed king of the transfer market:

From Sweden:

fumpen (38794)

Total Purchases 318 338 886 US$
Total Sales 360 443 244 US$
Difference 42 104 359 US$

Average (bought) 254 264 US$
Average (sold) 293 521 US$
Average (bought + sold) 16 978 US$

2475 transfers!

Edit: Today for instance, he bought 4 players and sold 8!

[vex]

I'm guessing that he doesn't feel that the team spirit drop affects him.

[PilotMan]

Two things

1) He is head of the "Daytraders" Fed.

2) He has way to much time on his hands.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Hehe yeah. When I used to read the boards on occasion he would get flamed constantly. So then some people got together to try and run "daytraders" out of the game and they would send reports to the GM's for the littlest thing about a transfer. It was quite funny to read.

Anyways that little group made so many bogus charges I think they were disbanded but there is still a small group that will just police all day.

I have absolutely no problem with a daytrader buying a youth pull from me because:

1. Most of them suck. karate is good at what he does though.
2. The more times they sell my player the more money I get for originally owning him, so I get free money for their hit-or-miss gambling.

[Airhog]

man now that is alot of cash. His cash is probably in the 20 or 30 millions.

[McSweeny]

ok i signed up for a team today but i might have to wait until next season and pick up a div 6 team. how much longer will that be?

and...

i was just reading about this thing called assistant manager and how great it is supposed to be. Is it? Is it worth 7 pounds?

[Easy Mac]

Originally posted by McSweeny
ok i signed up for a team today but i might have to wait until next season and pick up a div 6 team. how much longer will that be?

and...

i was just reading about this thing called assistant manager and how great it is supposed to be. Is it? Is it worth 7 pounds?

Next season is about 5 weeks off.

HAM is pretty good, it helps to organize things, and makes it simpler to understand. I'm going without it for a while to see how I do, as once you get the feel for the game, its not as necessary. Probably more of a help with a large squad, as its hard to manage all the players. Good for newbies.

[bbor]

I STILL heart this thread...even though my 4-5-1 team sucks worse than Horned's:)

[Easy Mac]

bbor said:
I STILL heat this thread...even though my 4-5-1 team sucks worse than Horned's

Yeah, this thread gets me in heat too

[bbor]

Originally posted by Easy Mac
Yeah, this thread gets me in heat too

HAAAH!...faster than you can say HEAT...i fixed my dumb ass spelling:D

[Poli]

Found this on the "newbie" conference page: The respondent was a Mod.

???? i heard training passing benefited defenders most

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You must have heard wrong, defenders don't use passing at all. Central defenders don't contribute to the attack at all, only midfield when played offensively, and wingbacks only contribute to the attack with their winger skill, not passing. It's good for midfield and forwards.

[vex]

Then how do I have central defenders scoring from time to time? I agree that the passing doesn't affect them, but to say that they don't contribute to the offensive attack at all doesn't make much sense, to me that is.

[Poli]

I'm in the same boat as you...perhaps what was meant is that the defenders don't increase your offensive attack. Say I play my defender offensively. Well, that helps the midfield play, not my forwards play. He may score still, but not necessarily because he was playing offensive.

Last week, I had a defensive wingback (Muniz) score a goal. It was a combination of a terrible team and my team having too many chances to score. How often will a defensive wingback or defender score? In my opinion, not very often. They score, but not near the rate as forwards or midfielders.

[DataKing]

I think this is how it works...

Defenders do not contribute to your attack rating, but when your attack rating determines that a goal has been scored by your team, a random factor decides who does the scoring. Forwards will get more than their fair share of the goals, and your midfielders and wingers will score some. Your defenders have a relatively small chance of "being selected" to score the goal, but it is always a possibility.

Also remember that defenders can score "event goals" based on their specialties. Arlen Lucas, one of my starting wingbacks, has scored 7 goals in 25 matches, far more than either of my other starting defenders. The vast majority of these have been headers off of corner kicks (Arlen has Specialty: Head).

[McSweeny]

well looks like i won't be getting my team until next season. There are now 84 people on the waiting list. Up from 62 yesterday. Looks like i get to break in the brand new div 6

[Poli]

Yuck, I don't want another division.