View Full Version : FOFC Musical Survivor, Volume I, Round 6
Kodos
02-24-2003, 12:48 PM
The anti-Nirvana coalition has succeeded. Now, only 5 groups remain. :)
Kodos
02-24-2003, 12:51 PM
Smells like teen spirit lost out. Nirvana has been ejected in a close race with No Doubt.
How They Went:
1. Backstreet Boys, 63.01% (46 of 73 votes), (Creed second with 6 votes)
2. Creed, 27.59% (16 of 58 votes), (Shania Twain second with 13 votes)
3. Meat Loaf, 32.31% (21 of 65 votes), (Shania Twain second with 12 votes)
4. Shania Twain, 43.86% (24 of 56 votes), (Beastie Boys second with 13)
5. Nirvana, 28.99 % (20 of 69 votes), (No Doubt second with 18)
Fritz
02-24-2003, 01:00 PM
thank god there are only 3 more polls after this.
Easy Mac
02-24-2003, 01:00 PM
The fact that no doubt is still here shows how truly sad the record industry has become the last 20 years.
Give me A Flock of Seagulls anyday.
Fritz
02-24-2003, 01:07 PM
The early No Doubt stuff as you might hear on California Ska Quake Vol. 1 ('92) is much better than the MTV tripe of Tragic Kingdom('95) .
Easy Mac
02-24-2003, 01:10 PM
just like cheshire cat was better than Blink MTV
Ksyrup
02-24-2003, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by Easy Mac
The fact that no doubt is still here shows how truly sad the record industry has become the last 20 years.
Give me A Flock of Seagulls anyday.
Don't blame me. I've had them targeted for a couple of rounds now.
This poll will suck if LZ isn't left standing anway, so we'll see what happens.
JeeberD
02-24-2003, 01:19 PM
No Doubt is out...
Ryche
02-24-2003, 01:32 PM
Def Leppard should at least be tossed on its ear before No Doubt goes.
Anrhydeddu
02-24-2003, 01:42 PM
The anti-Nirvana coalition has succeeded
Thank you, thank you, thank you. This has saved me from writing a long post on how awful Nirvana was and the terrible, negative music they wrote and promoted. The only shame I feel is that they lasted to round 5. :)
As promised, I will lend my support to the No Doubt coalition.
Ksyrup
02-24-2003, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by Ryche
Def Leppard should at least be tossed on its ear before No Doubt goes.
You're thinking of the armless days. Think back to Pyromania, or even before that. Bringin' On the Heartbreak is a great song!
HornedFrog Purple
02-24-2003, 01:54 PM
My mission is complete, so I voted for the band I did not recognize until Kodos told me who they were. :)
Ryche
02-24-2003, 02:14 PM
I never have like Def Leppard much, nothing I can put my finger on, just a general dislike. And it's definitely not because I don't like the rock bands from the 80s.
No Doubt really can't be pegged as simply pop, they bring a lot of different elements into their music. No 2 songs sound alike.
I think we've gotten rid of the major crap, now we're down to personal preferences.
Ksyrup
02-24-2003, 02:34 PM
I've always hated No Doubt, but then I had never heard of them until they hit it big, so maybe they were good before they got popular, I don't know. I've always thought Gwen Stefani was of limited talent (to put it nicely) and trying too hard to be Madonna. Musically, to me, No Doubt is to Ska what Green Day is to Punk.
klayman
02-24-2003, 02:42 PM
Def Leppard better be next, or I ain't playing anymore.
Tarkus
02-24-2003, 02:44 PM
Should we just kill No Doubt now and save them additional embarassment?
Tarkus
JeeberD
02-24-2003, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by pjstp20
Get a life, no one cares what you think about Nirvana or why you think it.
Ouch! Someone's sensitive...
Craptacular
02-24-2003, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by Ksyrup
Musically, to me, No Doubt is to Ska what Green Day is to Punk.
What, better than most of the "true" members of that genre? :)
Hammer755
02-24-2003, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by pjstp20
Get a life, no one cares what you think about Nirvana or why you think it.
Well, apparently more people agree with him than you since Nirvana has been eliminated. ;)
sabotai
02-24-2003, 03:20 PM
Everyone who voted Nirvana out over No DOubt has lost all credibility on all topics for all of eternity. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. I'm...highly offended...
(EDIT: Wonder if anyone can place the reference...probably...)
heybrad
02-24-2003, 03:28 PM
Def Leopard is my next target.
Anrhydeddu
02-24-2003, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by pjstp20
Yeah well I'm tired of all the Nirvana bashing that went on during this poll and how they killed precious groups like Winger, Nelsen, and Warrant, boohoo. Their one of my favorite groups, so if someone is gonna talk crap about them I'm gonna say something. Thank God their gone so I don't have to hear some yuppies take on 90's alternative scene. Most of the people passing judgement on them probably don't know anything about them. All they know is Kurt Cobain commited suicide and that he's a huge loser, whatever.
Any poll that holds No Doubt and Def Leppard in a higher esteem than Nirvana isn't woth the space it occupies
That has got to be one of the funniest things I have ever read, too bad it's too long for the QotM. Imagine that, a yuppie like me not liking Nirvana because they killed the 80s hair band. Lol. Friend, for one, I am about anti-yuppie as can be and two, I remember when the Beatles were still putting out albums. You can take your music of self-loathing, self-pity, hopelessness, joylessness and angst and...and...shit, I lost my train of thought. So there. :D :)
Actually, I am not hung up on the order of who got voted off, we could only vote for one at a time when by right, 5 to 7 of them are equally deserving to have been fed to the sharks.
Aylmar
02-24-2003, 03:35 PM
Good God...how is it that the Beastie Boys are still in this thing?
Craptacular
02-24-2003, 03:35 PM
pjstp20:
You may love Nirvana, but others obviously don't. You have every right to stick up for them. However, don't expect anyone else to care about your opinion either if you trash anyone who disagrees with you.
Ksyrup
02-24-2003, 03:35 PM
I liked Nirvana. Like many of the other grunge bands, I lost my taste for them quickly. Musically, I don't think they did enough to warrant (no pun intended) the kind of attention they have gotten, but there's no doubt (no pun intended) that they were influential during their brief time. I think Cobain probably would have become a very good song writer, and I can only wish that had he lived, he might have given thought to taking some vocal lessons, because he was really hard to listen to.
As for the bashing, it comes with the territory of any band that gets too popular for its own good. Most bands crash and burn eventually, and to do it in the way they did it, with all of the crap they're going through now with his wife, just feeds the fire. Hell, just having that no-talent bitch as a wife is enough to vote for them in this poll, IMO.
Chief Rum
02-24-2003, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by pjstp20
Get a life, no one cares what you think about Nirvana or why you think it.
I have to admit, this is one of the funniest unintentionally humorous posts I have read in some time.
And as for the later quote, hey, buddy, get a clue. Not everyone is going to like what you do or agree with you in this world. They are not right and neither are you. And neither they nor you are wrong either. These are just opinions.
Sorry if you have happened into a group that doesn't like Nirvana so much. If you took off the Nirvana-colored glasses for a moment, though, you might notice that every band in this poll has been ripped by someone, with the possible exceptions of the Eagles and Led Zepellin (and they are the only two that shouldn't be--yes, that was irony. :) ).
Chief Rum
Anrhydeddu
02-24-2003, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Aylmar
Good God...how is it that the Beastie Boys are still in this thing?
Because you got to fight for the right to PARTY!
It's all in fun, bashing and all, which is what this poll is all about.
Vince
02-24-2003, 03:54 PM
Man...the Anti-Beastie Boys coalition has failed miserably...I've been doing my part, but come on now...we're going to have to get rid of the Beastie Boys before Def Leppard...
(PS - How many people want to form a coalition to remove the Eagles next, to clear the way for LZ?)
Aylmar
02-24-2003, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by Vince
(PS - How many people want to form a coalition to remove the Eagles next, to clear the way for LZ?)
Don't you mean 'remove the Eagles after the Beastie Boys'? That's the only sane path to take, isn't it?
Vince
02-24-2003, 04:03 PM
Definitely...Beastie Boys, then Eagles. So let it be written; so let it be done.
heybrad
02-24-2003, 04:05 PM
Save the Beastie Boys....
Vote Def Leopard.
(next round of course)
HornedFrog Purple
02-24-2003, 04:10 PM
I come from the land of the ice and snow
That's all the words to the song I know..
(long yodel)
korme
02-24-2003, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by Easy Mac
just like cheshire cat was better than Blink MTV
Chesire Cat rocks my socks off
tucker342
02-24-2003, 04:57 PM
How can the Beastie Boys still be in it? lets get them out of there
Ksyrup
02-24-2003, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by tucker342
How can the Beastie Boys still be in it? lets get them out of there
Agreed - for next round. I'm going Beasties, Leppard, Eagles, leaving LZ.
Kodos
02-24-2003, 05:02 PM
I think pjstpky (whatever his name is) took offense to my critique of Kurt Cobain/Nirvana in earlier threads, even with my disclaimer that I was only voicing my personal opinion, and not handing down the final word of God. Hey bud - suck it up, it's just a silly poll. Feel free to disregard it entirely if it helps you feel better. Your band lost, mine will too. I think you've maybe been listening to Nirvana a little too much. But, hey, at least you beat out the Backstreet Boys!
BTW, I fully support the movement to remove the Beastie Boys next.
heybrad
02-24-2003, 05:02 PM
Please, I'm begging. Allow the Beastie Boys to beat Def Leopard. Once that is complete I am open to throwing my vote to whoever needs it.
The Afoci
02-24-2003, 05:05 PM
I don't think one armed drummers belong....either do hearing impared leppards.
Ksyrup
02-24-2003, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by heybrad
Please, I'm begging. Allow the Beastie Boys to beat Def Leopard. Once that is complete I am open to throwing my vote to whoever needs it.
It's Leppard!!! I bet you're one of those who spells Megadeth Megadeath, aren't you? :D
Sorry, I can't vote rap over a one-time decent hard rock band. Too many memories.
On the subject of losers, I read the following on a music newsletter I get. It's amazing that this guy can come up with so many cliched song titles for one album:
The new album from Meat Loaf, “Couldn’t Have Said It Better” has the following tracks: Couldn't Have Said It Better, Did I Say That, Why Isn't That Enough, Love You Out Loud, Man Of Steel, Intermezzo, Testify, Tear Me Down, You're Right I'm Wrong, Because Of You, Do It and Forever Young.
Originally posted by Anrhydeddu
That has got to be one of the funniest things I have ever read, too bad it's too long for the QotM. Imagine that, a yuppie like me not liking Nirvana because they killed the 80s hair band. Lol. Friend, for one, I am about anti-yuppie as can be and two, I remember when the Beatles were still putting out albums. You can take your music of self-loathing, self-pity, hopelessness, joylessness and angst and...and...shit, I lost my train of thought. So there. :D :)
Actually, I am not hung up on the order of who got voted off, we could only vote for one at a time when by right, 5 to 7 of them are equally deserving to have been fed to the sharks.
Classic post and when did you learn how to use the smiley face thingies?
;)
Kodos
02-24-2003, 05:09 PM
Some people would actually think that a drummer who loses an arm, but finds a way to continue playing (when 99.9% of other drummers would just quit) would be a source of inspiration.
The Afoci
02-24-2003, 05:11 PM
Yeah, well some people like the french too...
Anrhydeddu
02-24-2003, 05:12 PM
Bee: Had to learn how to use them or else I would've been beaten with thunder sticks or worse, a thug in a lumberjack shirt by now.
korme
02-24-2003, 05:49 PM
Too bad in this entire thing, there is not one band there that I listen to regularly. Way too many old bands.
Kodos
02-24-2003, 05:52 PM
The newer ones got voted out...
Ksyrup
02-24-2003, 06:59 PM
We should probably take this idea and break it down into genres in a semi-serious poll. That would be interesting.
Then we can have an all-Britney, Spice Girls, New Kids, etc., poll. Now who in the hell would want anyone to win THAT one?
Anrhydeddu
02-24-2003, 07:46 PM
Now who in the hell would want anyone to win THAT one?
It appears Shortstuff wouldn't mind. :)
The_herd
02-24-2003, 10:04 PM
What is wrong with you people, DEF-LEOPARD HAS TO GO!
Kodos
02-24-2003, 10:55 PM
Yet they handily beat Nirvana - you might say, they blew Nirvana away. :)
sterlingice
02-24-2003, 10:59 PM
Next round looks to be interesting. It's about 2 rounds too late but No Doubt will be gone.
SI
SplitPersonality1
02-25-2003, 12:15 AM
FOFC Musical Survivor, Volume I, Round 6
Survivor? This is more like a cheap knockoff of American Idol. Maybe Kodos is Ryan Seacrest is disguise?....or maybe Paula Abdul...no definately Ryan Seacrest.
Fritz
02-25-2003, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by SplitPersonality1
Survivor? This is more like a cheap knockoff of American Idol. Maybe Kodos is Ryan Seacrest is disguise?....or maybe Paula Abdul...no definately Ryan Seacrest.
Ryan S. is one of our mods.
AgPete
02-25-2003, 08:16 AM
Well that's it, I'm leaving this island! :D You guys got rid of Shania Twain and are about to vote off the only cutie left. (Gwen Stefani) I don't want to spend the rest of my life picking up coconuts with guys that look like Dana Carvey's Garth (Def Leppard) or a band that can't play without an acoustic guitar(Beastie Boys). It might be okay listening to The Eagles play Desperado on the beach but I've never been much of a Led Zeppelin fan. I'm rowing over to the movie or sports @sshole survivor island! :p
Kodos
02-25-2003, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by SplitPersonality1
Survivor? This is more like a cheap knockoff of American Idol. Maybe Kodos is Ryan Seacrest is disguise?....or maybe Paula Abdul...no definately Ryan Seacrest.
Damn! I was hoping for Paula Abdul! :p
WSUCougar
02-25-2003, 10:47 AM
Yeah well I'm tired of all the Shania bashing that went on during this poll and how she killed precious singers like Bonnie Rait, Melissa Etheridge, and Ace of Base, boohoo. She is one of my favorite singers, so if someone is gonna talk crap about her I'm gonna say something. Thank God she's gone so I don't have to hear some Gen-Xers take on the crossover pop/country scene. Most of the people passing judgement on her probably don't know anything about her. All they know is MAN! She feels like a woman, and that she's friggin' HOT, whatever.
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.
.
Aww, hell, did I just say all that out loud?!?
:D :D :D
Aylmar
02-25-2003, 10:52 AM
Hmm...the Beastie Boys contingent doesn't seem strong enough yet. Rockers of the world unite! Save our cheesy 80's metal band with the one-armed drummer! Send the Beastie Boys away (in the next round)!
McSweeny
02-25-2003, 11:00 AM
down with the leppard!
Kodos
02-25-2003, 12:28 PM
It's also a good form of mockery.
McSweeny
02-25-2003, 12:41 PM
i can see it now FOFC Kods' Ass Survivor Volume 1 Round 1
Ksyrup
02-25-2003, 12:52 PM
Sorry guys, Fritz tells me that nothing could survive Kodos' ass, so no need for the poll.
Kodos
02-25-2003, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by pjstp20
You trying to make this personel or something? Why don't you take the next poll in your ass. That would make for some good discussion.
It's becoming clear that all this flirting will ultimately be to no avail... :(
scooper
02-25-2003, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by pjstp20
You trying to make this personel or something? Why don't you take the next poll in your ass. That would make for some good discussion.
That would be a pole, not a poll.
Kodos
02-25-2003, 01:09 PM
pj: I'm sorry if I've picked on you a bit. You just seem to be taking the contest a little bit too seriously and too personally. It's just a game. Nobody is going to come and take away all of your Nirvana CDs.
Kodos
02-25-2003, 02:46 PM
You'll probably want to avoid FOFC Musical Survivor 2 when it comes out...
Fritz
02-25-2003, 02:51 PM
I wonder if pjstp20 would throw his panties at Tom Jones?
Craptacular
02-25-2003, 02:56 PM
It's not unusual to be loved by anyone.
scooper
02-25-2003, 03:09 PM
Anybody ever hear the Pinkard and Bowden song Kurt Cobain? It's to the tune of You're so Vain.
Now there's brains in your cornflakes
brains in your cornflakes
Kurt Cobain
I bet the make an album without you
Kurt Cobain
Cobain
I bet the do the next one without you
Don't shoot
Don't shoot
Edit: I'll add that I like Nirvana's music. I just think people take them (him) way too seriously. He did not want to speak for anybody yet people look at him like a religious figure. He wasn't. He was a pissed off punk rock singer. There's value in that, just not the amount people give it. Here's the test: If you get pissed off and call names to defend a band when somebody claims not to like them, you take them way too seriously. Music is subjective.
Kodos
02-25-2003, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by pjstp20
Are you kidding me? I'll be looking forward to part 2 after a few days rest. Just put on Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Soundgarden or Alice in Chains so I can get pissed off again.
Rumor has it that Pearl Jam is on the list... ;)
Craptacular
02-25-2003, 03:36 PM
PLEASE, no sequels!!!! We already have too many crappy spinoffs. Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
Kodos
02-25-2003, 03:58 PM
Hey Crappie: I might hold off for a while and let the Survivor fad die down...
By the way, thanks for recommending PhilCo's album. Although the first half ain't great, the second half of the album has some good songs on it. :)
Craptacular
02-25-2003, 04:17 PM
I like a number of the earlier songs, especially "Come With Me", and I thought the whole album was pretty solid, but I'm glad to hear you at least like some of it. :) As I said before, "bad" Phil is still pretty good to me.
Kodos
02-25-2003, 04:30 PM
I don't really like Wake Up Call, Testify, or Don't Get Me Started. After initially dismissing "Can't Stop Loving You" as another of his recent lifeless ballads, I have decided it is actually one of his better love songs since the all-time classic "Against All Odds." It doesn't seem like the Phil-lite that we've had recently.
What's your favorite PhilCo song?
Craptacular
02-25-2003, 04:57 PM
I can see how someone wouldn't like Wake Up Call (besides the fact that it's in a car commerical already) or Don't Get Me Started.
Originally posted by Kodos
What's your favorite PhilCo song?
Hmm, that's a tough one. When I saw him live, Sussudio was the most memorable performance. My favorite song of his in general?? That's tough. Don't Lose My Number? Find a Way to My Heart? You Can't Hurry Love?
Kodos
02-25-2003, 05:12 PM
What about Like China?!?
Craptacular
02-25-2003, 05:19 PM
Honestly, I'm not that familiar with that song. I know I've heard it, and would probably recognize it when I heard it. However, I don't own "Hello, I Must Be Going" and it's not on any of the hits CDs of his. Maybe I should go buy it ...
Kodos
02-25-2003, 06:03 PM
It's from his earlier stuff. Hell, it may even be from Genesis after he took over the vocals. It's just a funny song. His earlier stuff is definitely worth checking out if you haven't already.
Craptacular
02-25-2003, 06:13 PM
Yeah, I am familiar with some of the early stuff (Like China is on HIMBG), but I don't own any of the albums before But Seriously (although I *might* have No Jacket Required now that I think of it). Many of his earlier songs are on "Serious Hits Live" and "Hits", so I'm very familiar with those. Perhaps I'll go pick up Face Value and HIMBG.
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