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larrymcg421
04-13-2013, 11:29 AM
If they ruled the drop legal while he was still on the course, but then later changed it, I can see why they waived the DQ. At the time he signed the scorecard, it was legal. Seems patently unfair to DQ someone when they went by the judgment of the officials at the time.
Two stroke penalty seems fair to me. The whole DQ'ing people because they signed the scorecard incorrectly is ridiculous to me anyway.
Logan
04-13-2013, 11:50 AM
If they ruled the drop legal while he was still on the course, but then later changed it, I can see why they waived the DQ. At the time he signed the scorecard, it was legal. Seems patently unfair to DQ someone when they went by the judgment of the officials at the time.
Agree with this.
These guys saying that Tiger's legacy will forever be tainted by his refusal to DQ himself make me laugh very hard.
Agree with this.
These guys saying that Tiger's legacy will forever be tainted by his refusal to DQ himself make me laugh very hard.
People are taking themselves and this way too seriously. Casual golf fans don't want Tiger DQ'd and won't care about it.
Young Drachma
04-13-2013, 11:57 AM
Jon is right. Slow play is a huge problem in golf right now. No doubt they made an example of the kid, because he's an amateur, foreign and would not complain.
The problem isn't so much the call. It's that they'd never make that call against a tour pro in that position.
JonInMiddleGA
04-13-2013, 12:00 PM
Casual golf fans don't want Tiger DQ'd and won't care about it.
You may be underestimating how many of us (extremely) casual fans despise the sumbitch.
Logan
04-13-2013, 12:11 PM
You may be underestimating how many of us (extremely) casual fans despise the sumbitch.
Yep, but (the collective) you watch to hopefully see him fail on Sundays.
Ryan S
04-13-2013, 12:15 PM
Two stroke penalty seems fair to me. The whole DQ'ing people because they signed the scorecard incorrectly is ridiculous to me anyway.
I think that a two stroke penalty is probably fair, but the perception that golf has different rules for different players is a problem.
As for the slow play penalty, I hope they start calling it on the PGA Tour. Slow play has been a problem for far too long on tour, and nothing is ever done about it.
Karlifornia
04-13-2013, 12:22 PM
You may be underestimating how many of us (extremely) casual fans despise the sumbitch.
I'm pretty sure you despise everything but pro rasslin and Strom thurmond
The fact that he was told he made no violation before he signed the card should shut up anyone who says he should be disqualified.
I guess basketball players start following that sportsmanship commercial and tell refs when they hit the ball out of bounds and the ref makes the wrong call. People take advantage of rules all the time in sports, it's really not that big of a deal. Should offensive lineman start calling holding on themselves too?
JonInMiddleGA
04-13-2013, 12:59 PM
I'm pretty sure you despise everything but pro rasslin and Strom thurmond
How the hell did you leave out metal?
Young Drachma
04-13-2013, 01:41 PM
Tiger Woods has chance to win 2013 for greatest victory of career - GOLF.com (http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/tiger-woods-has-chance-win-2013-greatest-victory-career?eref=sihp)
Atocep
04-13-2013, 09:01 PM
Can someone tell me why the hell pro golfers (or their caddies really) are tasked with keeping their own score? Isn't it time to go to digital scoring for the PGA tour's official scores? It doesn't make sense to me why a golfer should ever be DQ'd or pressured to withdraw from a tournament for signing an incorrect scorecard simply because of a mix-up or a misunderstanding of a rule.
JonInMiddleGA
04-13-2013, 09:13 PM
Can someone tell me why the hell pro golfers (or their caddies really) are tasked with keeping their own score? Isn't it time to go to digital scoring for the PGA tour's official scores? It doesn't make sense to me why a golfer should ever be DQ'd or pressured to withdraw from a tournament for signing an incorrect scorecard simply because of a mix-up or a misunderstanding of a rule.
Generally speaking, I believe there's a sense that part of the responsibility of the player is to know & understand the rules of the game. Honestly, it doesn't seem like that big a stretch to expect that.
Kevin
04-14-2013, 10:35 AM
Can someone tell me why the hell pro golfers (or their caddies really) are tasked with keeping their own score? Isn't it time to go to digital scoring for the PGA tour's official scores? It doesn't make sense to me why a golfer should ever be DQ'd or pressured to withdraw from a tournament for signing an incorrect scorecard simply because of a mix-up or a misunderstanding of a rule.
Because it won't be golf anymore, just another fucked up over officiated sport trying to keep a bunch of hoodlums in order like the other big sports.
Young Drachma
04-14-2013, 01:19 PM
Can someone tell me why the hell pro golfers (or their caddies really) are tasked with keeping their own score? Isn't it time to go to digital scoring for the PGA tour's official scores? It doesn't make sense to me why a golfer should ever be DQ'd or pressured to withdraw from a tournament for signing an incorrect scorecard simply because of a mix-up or a misunderstanding of a rule.
Tradition, really. That's the only reason.
http://www.randa.org/en/RandA/News/News/2011/April/Rule-Change.aspx
Here's the section of the Rules of Golf that they invoked to award the two-stroke penalty rather than DQing as would've happened two years prior.
The R&A and the USGA have announced a new interpretation of the Rules that apply in limited circumstances not previously contemplated by the Rules of Golf where disqualifications have been caused by score card errors identified as the result of recent advances in video technologies.
This revision to Decision 33-7/4.5 addresses the situation where a player is not aware he has breached a Rule because of facts that he did not know and could not reasonably have discovered prior to returning his score card. Under this revised decision and at the discretion of the Committee, the player still receives the penalty associated with the breach of the underlying Rule, but is not disqualified.
In revising the decision, The R&A and the USGA confirm that the disqualification penalty still applies for score card breaches that arise from ignorance of the Rules of Golf. As such, this decision reinforces that it is still the responsibility of the player to know the Rules, while recognising that there may be some rare situations where it is reasonable that a player is unaware of the factual circumstances of a breach.
This revision to Decision 33-7/4.5 is effective immediately.
“For some time we have been concerned that, in certain limited circumstances, disproportionate disqualification penalties have been required by the Rules,” said Peter Dawson, Chief Executive of The R&A. “This carefully considered decision reflects our desire to ensure that the Rules of Golf remain fair and relevant in the changing environment in which the game is played today.”
“This is a logical and important step in our re-evaluation of the impact of high-definition video on the game,” said Mike Davis, executive director of the USGA. “We collectively believe that this revised decision addresses many video-related issues never contemplated by the Rules of Golf.”
kingfc22
04-14-2013, 01:34 PM
Bernard Langer with 3 straight birdies towards the start of his round and is into contention at -5. That would be a cool story if he can maintain in contention.
Young Drachma
04-14-2013, 02:11 PM
Would be awesome for sure.
Ryan S
04-14-2013, 02:13 PM
Tradition, really. That's the only reason.
http://www.randa.org/en/RandA/News/News/2011/April/Rule-Change.aspx
Here's the section of the Rules of Golf that they invoked to award the two-stroke penalty rather than DQing as would've happened two years prior.
Based on my reading of the rule I think that Tiger should have been DQed as I don't think it applies to his situation. The new rule seems more likely designed to deal with situations like hitting loose impediments in a hazard which might only be detectable in a slow motion HD broadcast.
Tiger misinterpreted the rule, and was aware of what he was doing when he dropped in the wrong place. In his case it was a mistake by the player rather than an almost undetectable indiscretion, so there is not much room for manoeuvre in the rules.
It's about time golf did something about the scorecard rules, because the DQ penalty is almost always excessive. Personally, I would change the rules (on tour anyway) to allow the tournament to give the player the original penalty, plus maybe an extra penalty shot for the incorrect scorecard.
hoopsguy
04-14-2013, 02:24 PM
10 for Watson on the twelth. Went from +1 to +8 on that hole.
Wasn't going to win anyway, but ouch! Three balls in the water.
Logan
04-14-2013, 02:38 PM
http://www.augusta.com/masters/images/2013/tiger-shots-side-by-side.jpg
http://www.augusta.com/masters/story/blog/woods-receives-2-shot-penalty-stays-tournament
kcchief19
04-14-2013, 03:30 PM
Based on my reading of the rule I think that Tiger should have been DQed as I don't think it applies to his situation. The new rule seems more likely designed to deal with situations like hitting loose impediments in a hazard which might only be detectable in a slow motion HD broadcast.
Tiger misinterpreted the rule, and was aware of what he was doing when he dropped in the wrong place. In his case it was a mistake by the player rather than an almost undetectable indiscretion, so there is not much room for manoeuvre in the rules.
It's about time golf did something about the scorecard rules, because the DQ penalty is almost always excessive. Personally, I would change the rules (on tour anyway) to allow the tournament to give the player the original penalty, plus maybe an extra penalty shot for the incorrect scorecard.
I think some of the confusion is that people are getting the intent of the rule confused with the actual rule. Yes, the rule was intended to protect players who committed a rules breach that was later detected thanks to HD TV but was unaware of the violation when they signed their card.
However, the rule is very broad:
A penalty of disqualification may in exceptional individual cases be waived, modified or imposed if the Committee considers such action warranted.
Based on the evidence that continues to come out, I think the two-shot penalty was a reasonable compromise. Tiger's words worked against him in that he essentially acknowledged he misunderstood the rule and committed a violation. However, the video and photo evidence is inconclusive. Tiger may have misunderstood the rule, attempted to play the ball two yards further back ... but actually played the shot much closer to the original than he realized.
He's (seemingly) not going to win so the furor is just a footnote now. But the uproar over the penalty is a fraction of what the uproar would have been if he had been DQ'd. That might have led to a war over the rules of golf that no one wants to fight.
kcchief19
04-14-2013, 03:31 PM
Angel Cabrera challenges everything you think you know about golf and Augusta National.
hoopsguy
04-14-2013, 04:07 PM
Bernard Langer with 3 straight birdies towards the start of his round and is into contention at -5. That would be a cool story if he can maintain in contention.
Yeah, so about that ...
-5 after three
+2 ten holes later.
kcchief19
04-14-2013, 04:15 PM
Who has the clubhouse lead?
Huh.
I said, "Who has the clubhouse lead?
Huh.
Can't you hear me? Great Scott!
Scott is tied for second.
What? Then who has the clubhouse lead?
Huh.
This is going to go on all day.
Day is tied with Scott.
Huh?
He has the clubhouse lead?
Yes.
Young Drachma
04-14-2013, 04:18 PM
Lindsey Vonn's ex-husband with the lolz
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>No problem Masters tournament happy to call in and help. You always have to keep an eye on those cheaters ;)<a href="http://t.co/u0pY3ftGzH" title="http://yhoo.it/Zh7TBu">yhoo.it/Zh7TBu</a></p>— Thomas Vonn (@ThomasVonn) <a href="https://twitter.com/ThomasVonn/status/323204060746498048">April 13, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Meanwhile, Lindsey is also in Sunday Red.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/04/14/lindsey-vonn-tiger-woods-matching-sunday-red-outfits/2082051/
http://i.imgur.com/EWm7XbK.jpg
Matthean
04-14-2013, 04:26 PM
That pick would have been removed if she were swinging a golf club. Also, Tiger would been going, "Not again." :lol:
Young Drachma
04-14-2013, 04:30 PM
That pick would have been removed if she were swinging a golf club. Also, Tiger would been going, "Not again." :lol:
I started to make the joke "hope this doesn't get me banned."
kcchief19
04-14-2013, 05:15 PM
Looking good for an Aussie finally ... unless Scott or Day really puke it up over the next few holes. Cabrera is doing his best to implode.
At the end of the day, Tiger's 15th disaster on Friday looks like it may be the difference. Without the two-stroke penalty, he's at -7 and breathing down everyone's neck. Without hitting the pin, he's -8 or -9. Heck, if he hadn't hit the pin, he might have gone nuts and have this thing wrapped up by 5 shots.
kcchief19
04-14-2013, 05:33 PM
I take it back. Cabrera's going to win. Just fate. Scott and Day are going to do something crazy, and Cabrera is just an amazing son of a gun. He's going to light up a cigarette, eat a ham sandwich, chug a shot of whiskey and knock a ball from the pine needles in from 173 yards for the win.
Young Drachma
04-14-2013, 05:44 PM
Wow no one wants to win this thing.
My money has been on Day all weekend, so that's where I'm sticking.
kcchief19
04-14-2013, 05:54 PM
Adam Scott should be assessed a two-shot penalty for that celebration move on 18.
kcchief19
04-14-2013, 05:55 PM
Scott thinks he just won The Masters, so if Cabrera can get a birdie and force a playoff, I like he's chances. But getting a birdie there will be no easy feat.
kcchief19
04-14-2013, 05:57 PM
Holy freakin' crap. What a shot by Cabrera. That's got to be a gut punch to Scott.
Young Drachma
04-14-2013, 06:06 PM
Good thing I didn't put real money on it. Heh. T-3 isn't the outcome Tiger wanted, but it sure beats WD or DQ.
Jas_lov
04-14-2013, 06:09 PM
Adam Scott is out of his league against El Pato. If there's a big shot to be hit in the playoff, Adam Scott won't do it. Cabrera will get that elusive 3rd major.
Young Drachma
04-14-2013, 06:37 PM
Tough break by Cabrera there. Man, what a shot.
Young Drachma
04-14-2013, 06:38 PM
Aussie streak is over.
hoopsguy
04-14-2013, 06:38 PM
Hard to believe that Jas_lov got a prediction wrong :)
Jas_lov
04-14-2013, 06:39 PM
I knew as soon as I said that Scott would hit that putt. Pretty clutch shot.
cartman
04-14-2013, 06:39 PM
Golf is a cruel game. Tiger doesn't hit the flag stick on Friday, he likely wins. Angel Cabrera misses a putt by an inch, and loses.
JonInMiddleGA
04-14-2013, 06:42 PM
Game of inches indeed.
Congrats to Adam Scott, and props to Angel Cabrera who appeared to be a completely class act.
Young Drachma
04-14-2013, 06:42 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Great effort but no green jacket this year. Plenty more golf left this year tho :) <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23fighter">#fighter</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23eyeofthetiger">#eyeofthetiger</a></p>— lindsey vonn (@lindseyvonn) <a href="https://twitter.com/lindseyvonn/status/323579650938900480">April 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Buccaneer
04-14-2013, 06:43 PM
Some amazing clutch putts in the past hour.
Izulde
04-14-2013, 06:48 PM
Adam Scott is a UNLV alum. Just thought I'd point that out. :D
kcchief19
04-14-2013, 07:41 PM
I was wrong at evey turn I who would win. Good thing I don't gamble on golf or I'd be sleeping in a van down by the river tonight.
Can't say I'm terribly happy for Scott. He might be a nice guy but Stevie is his caddy and he uses a belly putter. If he wore a Jesper Parenvik hat or Ricky Fowler's pants, he'd hit the golfer douche bag trifecta.
hoopsguy
05-11-2013, 07:07 PM
Yet another reason why Sergio Garcia sucks.
2013 Players Championship -- Sergio Garcia says Tiger Woods distracted him during shot - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/golf/story/_/id/9265485/2013-players-championship-sergio-garcia-says-tiger-woods-distracted-shot)
Young Drachma
05-11-2013, 07:20 PM
Yeah, that was pretty bitchy of him. Interesting to see if the rookie can hold the lead down the stretch. We know Tiger doesn't win tournaments from behind and missed some birdie opportunities today. I think one of the Swedes will end up pulling it out.
cartman
05-12-2013, 10:24 AM
Yeah, that was pretty bitchy of him. Interesting to see if the rookie can hold the lead down the stretch. We know Tiger doesn't win tournaments from behind and missed some birdie opportunities today. I think one of the Swedes will end up pulling it out.
He's starting today tied for the lead, after finishing the 3rd round early this morning with a one under 71. Tiger is 52-4 when having at least a share of the lead going into the final round. He and Sergio won't be paired together when the 4th round kicks off later today.
Young Drachma
05-12-2013, 05:00 PM
Last night, I forgot that the 3rd round wasn't over yet.
With a 2 shot lead through 13, just hits it fat and in the water on 14...
heybrad
05-12-2013, 05:36 PM
And now Sergio in the water on 17.
cartman
05-12-2013, 05:36 PM
And Sergio hands the tourney to Tiger, dropping his tee shot on the famous island green on 17 into the water.
Young Drachma
05-12-2013, 05:37 PM
Way to go, Sergio. I knew he'd choke. He can't handle Tiger. If they'd been in the same group, he'd shot +1 or something.
heybrad
05-12-2013, 05:38 PM
Sergio is melting down on 17.
Young Drachma
05-12-2013, 05:38 PM
I was rooting for the Swedish kid, honestly. Love that about golf that an unknown guy who can show up and have a strong week and hang with the stars. Still, he'll get a nice payday after this one.
cartman
05-12-2013, 05:38 PM
And Sergio hits the re-hit into the water
Young Drachma
05-12-2013, 05:44 PM
Sergio misses the putt for triple, is about to push it in for 7. Lingmerth still at -12 and just missed the birdie putt that'd have given him a share of the lead. Those Garcia yips are contagious.
Young Drachma
05-12-2013, 05:49 PM
Lindsey Vonn won't miss this chance at putting herself into the media for this deal. I wondered if she was on the grounds and there she is.
heybrad
05-12-2013, 05:50 PM
Lindsey Vonn.... Hubba Hubba!!!
cartman
05-12-2013, 05:50 PM
Sergio splashes his drive on 18 as well
Young Drachma
05-12-2013, 06:02 PM
Double Bogey on 18th for Sergio. What a disaster.
Young Drachma
05-12-2013, 06:04 PM
That's a hell of a streak. Tiger's won his 100th, 200th and 300th starts on the PGA Tour.
SirFozzie
05-12-2013, 06:09 PM
A fitting end for Garcia.
Actually, no, a fitting end would be to go throw himself into the lake on 17.
JonInMiddleGA
05-12-2013, 07:28 PM
A fitting end for Garcia. Actually, no, a fitting end would be to go throw himself into the lake on 17.
Only if Tiger was encased in concrete & chained to his ankle.
JonInMiddleGA
05-13-2013, 10:59 PM
Report -- Course marshals dispute Tiger Woods' story - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/golf/story/_/id/9272349/report-course-marshals-dispute-tiger-woods-story)
cartman
05-13-2013, 11:02 PM
lol in the comments of that link:
Submergio
cartman
05-15-2013, 12:36 PM
Six months after winning Japan tournament, Luke Donald finally gets his cow - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/golf/story/_/id/9277944/six-months-winning-japan-tournament-luke-donald-gets-cow)
heybrad
05-15-2013, 01:39 PM
Report -- Course marshals dispute Tiger Woods' story - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/golf/story/_/id/9272349/report-course-marshals-dispute-tiger-woods-story)
Two marshals on the grounds at Players said Tiger Woods did not lie | Devil Ball Golf - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/golf-devil-ball-golf/two-marshals-grounds-players-said-tiger-woods-did-161243970.html)
The whole thing seems odd to me that a marshal would come out and specifically go after Tiger and say he 'lacked character.' Sounds like a marshal who can't stand Tiger from the start.
Young Drachma
05-15-2013, 01:45 PM
Yeah who cares.
cartman
05-17-2013, 08:34 AM
At the opening round of the Byron Nelson yesterday, Keegan Bradley shot an incredible 60. And that was with two bogeys!
JonInMiddleGA
05-17-2013, 08:48 AM
Sounds like a marshal who can't stand Tiger from the start.
Or a marshal who simply isn't willing to suck up to him.
cartman
05-21-2013, 04:14 PM
The 'belly putter ban' is going into effect in 2016.
PGATOUR.com – Golf adopts rule to ban anchored putting stroke in 2016 (http://www.pgatour.com/news/2013/05/21/anchoring-rule.html)
JonInMiddleGA
05-21-2013, 08:22 PM
Hopefully the Tours will tell 'em to stick it.
cartman
05-21-2013, 08:45 PM
To clarify, the belly putters will still be legal, they just can't be anchored against any part of the body. The putting motion has to be a swing, not a pivot.
SirFozzie
05-21-2013, 10:32 PM
Ouch. Sergio (either accidentally or on purpose) goes racist on Tiger:
Sergio Garcia makes 'fried chicken' remark about Tiger Woods - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/golf/story/_/id/9299934/sergio-garcia-makes-fried-chicken-remark-tiger-woods)
Matthean
05-22-2013, 12:12 AM
I guess I never understood the remarks about food being tied to racism. If you make fried chicken, I'll be over too, and I'm white. Of course, if you are making ribs, I'll be over sooner. :)
Ryan S
05-22-2013, 03:23 AM
I doubt it was a deliberate racial comment. The only time I can ever remember hearing about fried chicken in the context of racism was the fuss over Fuzzy's comments about the Masters dinner back in the late 90s. It is not crazy to think that an outsider speaking in his second language is not familiar or does not understand the reference. I also doubt many people in the room had a clue that the comment might be perceived as racist in the US.
Leaving the possible racist comments aside, I think that the media is making too much of the animosity between Tiger and Sergio. They don't like each other, but who cares. I can name a load of golfers who hate both of them, and pretty much nobody on tour gets on with everyone (apart from Steve Stricker).
miami_fan
05-22-2013, 11:32 AM
I guess I never understood the remarks about food being tied to racism. If you make fried chicken, I'll be over too, and I'm white. Of course, if you are making ribs, I'll be over sooner. :)
I m not saying he is racist but damn of all the food he chose to associate with Tiger, fried chicken is the one he chose? Not cheeseburgers or hot dogs? The only thing that would have gone over worst would have been bananas.
SirFozzie
05-22-2013, 11:33 AM
Or Watermelon.
miked
05-22-2013, 11:43 AM
It's about as deliberate of a racist comment as it could be.
Ryan S
05-22-2013, 12:17 PM
I m not saying he is racist but damn of all the food he chose to associate with Tiger, fried chicken is the one he chose? Not cheeseburgers or hot dogs? The only thing that would have gone over worst would have been bananas.
If you were to ask the average UK citizen about US food, Cheeseburgers and Fried Chicken would probably be at the top of the list thanks to your fast food chains.
I honestly can't see this as a deliberate racist comment. I think that people are forgetting that the rest of the world has no idea why this might cause offense.
miami_fan
05-22-2013, 01:15 PM
If you were to ask the average UK citizen about US food, Cheeseburgers and Fried Chicken would probably be at the top of the list thanks to your fast food chains.
I honestly can't see this as a deliberate racist comment. I think that people are forgetting that the rest of the world has no idea why this might cause offense.
But Sergio is not an average European citizen and he did not choose cheeseburgers.
cartman
05-22-2013, 01:19 PM
I'm sure that Sergio had to be aware of the Fuzzy Zoeller incident.
bhlloy
05-22-2013, 01:39 PM
I'm sure that Sergio had to be aware of the Fuzzy Zoeller incident.
Yeah I figure at best it's an ignorant attempt to joke about that situation and at worst he knew exactly what he was saying.
As for the original I never knew about what a POS Zoeller was until now. Holy crap
Blackadar
05-22-2013, 01:43 PM
I honestly can't see this as a deliberate racist comment. I think that people are forgetting that the rest of the world has no idea why this might cause offense.
Sorry Ryan, your head is in the sand (or somewhere else) if you don't think that the comment has a racist tinge. Sergio is worldly to know what an insinuation made regarding watermellon or fried chicken would mean. He almost definitely is aware of the backlash from Fuzzy's fried chicken comment made at the Masters some years ago. There's no chance in hell that Sergio wasn't trying to lash out at Tiger. Or do you really think he was trying to invite Woods to dinner via the press?!?
For the record, I don't think Sergio is racist. Nor do I think Fuzzy was racist. I think they were both frustrated at being embarrassed by Tiger and lashed out. They did so in a juvenile manner and said something designed to needle Tiger and in doing so made a racist insinuation. I believe both of them quickly regretted their comments and realized that they were wrong. So while I don't think this needs to be front-page news, let's not try to excuse the comment.
Blackadar
05-22-2013, 01:50 PM
As for the original I never knew about what a POS Zoeller was until now. Holy crap
Fuzzy wasn't/isn't a POS. He was frustrated and made a bad joke borne out of frustration (Fuzzy was known as a jokester, unlike Sergio). Fuzzy was a former winner of the tourney and had just shot a 78 in the final round to blow any chance of winning while Woods set the record at 18 under par. A lot of golfers were embarassed and Fuzzy said a shitty thing while frustrated (and probably half-cocked since he was drinking at the time).
After that, Zoeller publicly apologized on numerous occasions. He also went to lunch with Tiger to personally apologize after Woods didn't return phone calls by Zoeller.
If we were all judged by our worst comments, we'd all look like monsters. Don't judge someone by just one of theirs. Look at context and their body of work before doing so.
miked
05-22-2013, 02:21 PM
Sergio should be more embarrassed that when nobody incorrectly pulled clubs from their bags, he hit 3 balls in the drink on the final 2 holes.
Dutch
05-22-2013, 03:06 PM
If we were all judged by our worst comments, we'd all look like monsters. Don't judge someone by just one of theirs. Look at context and their body of work before doing so.
Well said.
SirFozzie
05-23-2013, 03:09 PM
Ooof. The head of the European Tour leaped in to defend Sergio.
He should have looked before he leaped, saying Sergio has "many colored friends"
BBC Sport - European Tour chief O'Grady apologises for 'coloured' remark (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/golf/22636894)
Vince, Pt. II
05-24-2013, 01:59 AM
It isn't quite pro golf, but today I took 2nd in an NCGA Qualifier in Hollister California. As a reward, I get to play a two-day tourney in June at Spyglass Hill on the NCGA's dime. I'm rather excited (and quite drunk), so I thought I'd share.
Young Drachma
05-24-2013, 06:03 AM
It isn't quite pro golf, but today I took 2nd in an NCGA Qualifier in Hollister California. As a reward, I get to play a two-day tourney in June at Spyglass Hill on the NCGA's dime. I'm rather excited (and quite drunk), so I thought I'd share.
Good luck, man!
Vince, Pt. II
05-24-2013, 09:55 AM
Thanks! Still can't believe it's actually going to happen. Surreal.
kingfc22
05-25-2013, 07:46 PM
It isn't quite pro golf, but today I took 2nd in an NCGA Qualifier in Hollister California. As a reward, I get to play a two-day tourney in June at Spyglass Hill on the NCGA's dime. I'm rather excited (and quite drunk), so I thought I'd share.
Nice! Did you play at San Juan Oaks?
Vince, Pt. II
05-28-2013, 12:33 AM
Nice! Did you play at San Juan Oaks?
The Diablo course at Ridgemark. They have 36 holes there, and I had played the other 18 (Gavilan) twice. Was my first time at Diablo. Nice little course. The layout and quality is muni-ish (there's three really nice, challenging holes and the rest are very straightforward, open and easy), but the greens were in incredible shape and were crazy difficult. The fact that we didn't hurt ourselves on the greens was what kept us in it.
Mizzou B-ball fan
06-17-2013, 10:53 AM
Phil Mickelson a champion despite finishing second, again, at the U.S. Open - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/golf--phil-mickelson-a-champion-despite-finishing-second-at-u-s--open-021217611.html)
Mizzou B-ball fan
07-19-2013, 07:48 AM
Phil Mickelson makes little boy’s day | Devil Ball Golf - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/golf-devil-ball-golf/phil-mickelson-makes-little-boy-day-144119857.html)
mauchow
07-21-2013, 09:58 AM
Poulter went crazy today.
Westwood unravelling a little. 8 players within 2.
Gonna be a fun last nine holes.
Jas_lov
07-21-2013, 11:20 AM
Phil is going to win. Up by 3 and Westwood only has 3 to play.
MrBug708
07-21-2013, 11:23 AM
I hate Phil, but that was a heck of a round
Mizzou B-ball fan
07-21-2013, 11:50 AM
Really happy for Phil. He's a fantastic ambassador for the game and a really good guy.
cartman
10-04-2013, 09:01 AM
Davis Love
A squirrel in his pocket
Lindsey Vonn
Tiger Woods
No, not words for mad libs, but what actually happened yesterday during the President's Cup.
Lindsey Vonn puts live squirrel on Tiger Woods, thanks to Davis Love III - News | FOX Sports on MSN (http://msn.foxsports.com/golf/story/lindsey-vonn-tiger-woods-squirrel-presidents-cup-david-love-III-matt-kuchar-100313)
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