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Young Drachma

09-17-2007, 12:48 AM

cartman

09-17-2007, 12:50 AM

Tiger Woods won the Tour Championship for his 61st career win, just 1 behind Arnold Palmer's 62 for 4th all-time.

He also won the convoluted boondoggle that is the FedEx Cup. They'll change the system so it'll be more competitive or add more drama to it. I just think they ought to make it one tournament, make it six rounds like Q school and invite the 128 best players, eliminate 32 after one round, 32 after the 2nd round and let the rest hang out and get automatic tour cards for the following year and give the winner $10 million bucks. Take Tiger's advice and bring it out after the winner is announced and pile it up like the World Series of Poker.

Golf fans would watch that and it would drama, intrigue and all of that. Best of all, do it before regular season football or college kicks off.

If it goes down like this year, then the only drama is going to be who gets 2nd place. Structure it anyway you want, but Tiger right now is just so much better than everyone else it is not even funny. Even with the current convoluted system, if you take Tiger out, it would have been a scramble on the final day to get the winner. The point difference between Tiger and Stricker at #2 was the same differential between Stricker and the #22 guy.

Young Drachma

09-17-2007, 01:09 AM

Yeah and you can't make it too much of a free-for-all or there places no emphasis on the 'regular season'. Golf isn't a playoff sport. Finchem is a goof.

Young Drachma

09-17-2007, 01:10 AM

The LPGA "playoffs" is wisely just one tournament though. So the idea I threw out there isn't too far fetched.

wade moore

09-17-2007, 04:41 AM

Yeah and you can't make it too much of a free-for-all or there places no emphasis on the 'regular season'. Golf isn't a playoff sport. Finchem is a goof.
If NASCAR can do it, why not the PGA?

It's not the idea that didn't work, as others said - it's that Golf just can't do anything about Tiger being THAT much better than everyone else.

Kevin

09-17-2007, 05:57 AM

Despite all the whining from the players and criticism about the structure, I think it was relaticely successful in that we actually got to see some good golf after Firestone. In recent years, the big names all went back to their yachts and gated communities for 8 or 9 weeks until the Tour Championship.
As a golf fan, this has been much better. Also, the poor slob out there trying to keep their cards actually get a much needed break before the lesser fall tournaments.

I have no sympathy for the top players who don't want to play four weeks in a row. They don't have to carry their golf bag. They don't have to hit and be hit like football and hockey players. They can afford to bring their families with them to the tournaments.

As to the complaint that the end result is too predictable, at least it wasn't like some years where Tiger had locked up the money list by July.

The Fedex was by no means perfect, but it was still a big improvement over how previous seasons closed out.

Wolfpack

09-17-2007, 10:04 PM

How about this way to do the FedEx Cup: 144 players at the first tourney. Whoever makes the cut (T-72) will get to play the second tourney. In the second tourney, whoever makes the T-36 cut gets to play the last two tourneys. Treat the last two tourneys both as individual tournaments, but put the FedEx Cup up for grabs among the T-36 golfers with the lowest aggregate score over all eight rounds winning the Cup. The cuts would make the system a true playoff. One drawback is the de-emphasis on the season, which is part of what they're trying to do with the current FedEx Cup by rewarding the better seasons with a higher position in the playoff standings.

I suppose you could "bye" the top 36 golfers into the second week and have the top 36 from the first tournament advance to join them. Problem there is that kills a fair amount interest in the first tournament since Tiger, et al, won't need to play it.

JS19

05-31-2009, 02:53 PM

Chief Rum

05-31-2009, 02:55 PM

Are pro golfers not allowed to wear shorts? or is just an etiquette thing? I'm watching a little of the Crowne Plaza Invitational as I get the grill fired up, and I haven't seen a single guy with shorts on, then it made me think, in all the golf events I've watched on tv, I've never seen anyone with shorts.

I don't know for sure, but I am pretty certain it's long pants and collared shirts, standard fare for high end courses.

Young Drachma

05-31-2009, 04:42 PM

Are pro golfers not allowed to wear shorts? or is just an etiquette thing? I'm watching a little of the Crowne Plaza Invitational as I get the grill fired up, and I haven't seen a single guy with shorts on, then it made me think, in all the golf events I've watched on tv, I've never seen anyone with shorts.

Correct, shorts are against PGA rules. Players have to wear long pants. Caddies can wear shorts from Memorial Day to Labor Day.

LPGA allows shorts, though.

panerd

05-31-2009, 08:51 PM

Correct, shorts are against PGA rules. Players have to wear long pants. Caddies can wear shorts from Memorial Day to Labor Day.

LPGA allows shorts, though.

Natalie Gulbis.

http://citizenfall.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/gulbis_two.jpg

Dr. Sak

05-31-2009, 08:52 PM

She doesn't wear panties.

JS19

05-31-2009, 08:55 PM

Please tell me tops like that are within regs for the LPGA, if so, count me in as a huge LPGA supporter.

JS19

05-31-2009, 08:56 PM

She doesn't wear panties.

They are overrated anyway.

panerd

05-31-2009, 08:57 PM

Please tell me tops like that are within regs for the LPGA, if so, count me in as a huge LPGA supporter.

I am pretty sure that is from a photo shoot. But here are some actual LPGA tournament pictures...

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1608/nataliegulbisxx4.jpg

http://www.sportsrubbish.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/natalie-gulbis2.jpg

Logan

05-31-2009, 09:11 PM

She looks...smart.

Ryan S

06-01-2009, 12:43 PM

LPGA allows shorts, though.

And skirts

Dr. Sak

06-01-2009, 12:49 PM

Her stroke looks phenomenal.

JS19

06-01-2009, 01:32 PM

She looks...smart.

Clearly the look she was going for.

This young lady is totally gonna put me in the lead with this little thing at work. When we are bored, which is the majority of the day, we try to google images of under the radar famous people. One guy pulled some foreign ping pong player out of his ass last week, but I think I'm going to destroy his dreams with this one.

MacroGuru

06-01-2009, 01:35 PM

Clearly the look she was going for.

This young lady is totally gonna put me in the lead with this little thing at work. When we are bored, which is the majority of the day, we try to google images of under the radar famous people. One guy pulled some foreign ping pong player out of his ass last week, but I think I'm going to destroy his dreams with this one.

Was it Biba Golic?

JS19

06-01-2009, 01:36 PM

Yes sir, apparently she is on some ESPN commercial, can't say I have ever seen it.

Huckleberry

06-01-2009, 04:40 PM

Nice timing for a golf thread. Holed out my first eagle on Memorial Day. 80 yards out on a par 4. Sweet.

Eaglesfan27

06-07-2009, 02:44 PM

That was an incredible shot by Tiger.

k0ruptr

06-07-2009, 06:14 PM

That was an incredible final round by Tiger.

fixed.

Seriously, all these critics are saying somethings wrong with him. Heh.

Young Drachma

06-07-2009, 09:25 PM

I just saw the highlights. Man oh man. That was quite a tournament. Lots of well played holes by a lot of guys. But Tiger had it early and you could just tell he wasn't going to do anything other than come away with a W today. Awesome stuff.

KWhit

06-08-2009, 09:26 PM

I think when all is said and done that Tiger will be the guy (of any sport) that people of our generation look back on fondly and relish the fact that "we were there when..."

I love watching this guy play.

kcchief19

08-09-2009, 02:17 PM

Tiger on the march at Firestone ... -4 under through 5 holes. I fully expected him to catch Padraig but I wouldn't have guessed Tiger would be 11 under before No. 6. Harrington not playing badly -- par is a good score, although considering he's already played a par 5 and a par 3 that is the easiest hole of the week, he should have at least one birdie.

Tiger and Firestone is nothing but magic. He's won this tournament six time in nine years. He's 8 under since No. 10 yesterday.

If Tiger blows by the field again this week, does anyone bet against him next week at Hazeltine?

Young Drachma

08-13-2009, 04:38 PM

Tiger leading after his first round at the PGA Championship at Hazeltine.

Tiger Woods commands par-5s, leads PGA Championship by one - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/pgachampionship09/news/story?id=4397006)

Young Drachma

08-17-2009, 09:58 AM

Tiger Woods lost a major for the first time after having a lead heading into the final round.

Y.E. Yang is the first Korean man to win a major. Had one career win in a PGA event prior to winning.

PGA Championship: Y.E. Yang wins PGA Championship - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/pgachampionship09/news/story?id=4403199)

Y.E. Yang's final 49 holes illustrated just how good the 37-year-old was down the stretch at Hazeltine. After starting the tournament 5-over par, Yang regrouped to shoot 13-under en route to his first major championship win.

Thru 23 Holes Final 49 Holes
Yang +5 -13
Woods -4 -1

Butter

08-17-2009, 10:04 AM

Tiger couldn't hit a putt yesterday. Meanwhile, Yang kept giving him openings down the stretch. Great final day, even if it was kind of a lousy final hole.

Ryan S

08-17-2009, 03:18 PM

Tiger couldn't hit a putt yesterday. Meanwhile, Yang kept giving him openings down the stretch. Great final day, even if it was kind of a lousy final hole.

Lousy final hole?

Yang's second shot on the final hole might have been one of the greatest pressure shots I have ever seen.

johnnyshaka

08-17-2009, 03:37 PM

I had to stop watching (had a tee time of my own) after Tiger reached that monster par 5, number 11 I think, in two and figured he had just put the pedal to the metal and the tourney was his.

Whoops.

kcchief19

09-27-2009, 05:46 PM

Giving this thread new life rather starting a Tiger Woods is great thread ...

Tiger played 17 times on the PGA Tour this year and won six times. That's winning 35 percent of the time compared to his career average of 28 percent.

Since the first weekend of August he has played seven times with three wins, three seconds and an 11th. Had he only played the last two months, he would have finished second on the money list by about $100k.

We know the rest of the story. Barring an injury he should pass Jack Nicklaus for wins next year and Sam Snead in 2011. It took Jack 25 years and Snead 30 to win as many tournaments as Tiger will win in 16.

I know some think Tiger is "slipping" because he isn't winning 50% of the time and 3 of 4 majors a year like he did when he was on a whole other planet. I'm in the camp that believes the reason Tiger doesn't dominate the way he did for a few years ago is that equipment, the courses and especially the players have stepped up to challenge him.

But how amazing is this guy? I almost feel sorry for everybody else. I'm sure $10 million would set Steve Stricker for life and it's nothing more than scoreboard material for Tiger. But it's amazing what these guy continues to do.

Young Drachma

09-28-2009, 11:58 AM

Yeah, Tiger is pretty astounding and the way he goes about his business is pretty impressive. I was trying to figure out if there was a better way to do the FedEx Cup, but I'm not sure there is. I mean, the way they changed it this season to reset the points for the playoffs at the Tour Championship to ensure that in theory, any guy in that final event could win the whole prize is probably as good an idea as any and having Phil and Tiger winning trophies on Sunday has to get Tim Finchem pretty excited.

But beyond it being something of a storybook ending, I think it just rewards the guys who produce throughout the year and that's what playoffs ought to is recognize the talent in the league and this probably does that.

I was thinking there would be a more logical way of listing the results, so people would know going in what shot people had to win the thing, but I guess you don't want to upset the integrity of an event too much by making the FedEx Cup sideshow more important than the tourney itself.

So I think the way they do it now is an inelegant solution to something grafted onto a sport that it's not a natural fit for to begin with.

Young Drachma

10-01-2009, 10:38 PM

Alexis Thompson, a 14-year old amateur from Florida, is 2nd (and was the leader in the clubhouse after his round) at the Navistar LPGA classic.

14-year-old Alexis Thompson shot off lead at Navistar LPGA Classic - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=4524265)

The link has an interview with her. Sounds like a good kid, just having fun out there. It'd be a hoot if she could win the thing, just for the ink it'd give the LPGA, but the whole "Wie comparison" stuff would probably be annoying.

Speaking of, Michelle Wie is a stroke behind her in third after the 1st round.

cartman

10-01-2009, 10:41 PM

Young Drachma

10-02-2009, 09:11 PM

14-year-old Alexis Thompson tied for LPGA Tour lead - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=4527324)

Tied for the lead with two others after the 2nd round.

Ryan S

10-03-2009, 06:52 AM

14-year-old Alexis Thompson tied for LPGA Tour lead - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=4527324)

Tied for the lead with two others after the 2nd round.

And her brother is in a tie for second on the PGA Tour this weekend.

Young Drachma

10-03-2009, 10:45 PM

And her brother is in a tie for second on the PGA Tour this weekend.

Good weekend for that family, huh? He ends the day in 3rd, 2 shots off the lead (4 guys in front of him)

Alexis Thompson shot a +2 on the day and is now tied for 13th, eight shots off the lead heading into the final round tomorrow.

Still, nice weekend there and I bet big brother decided now was as good a time as any to capture those headlines with lil' sis' having a go for "best golfer in the family" honours. Though he didn't seem to care when they asked him about it yesterday:

Q. 68, 67 is really good. Are you worried at all that you're going to get upstaged by your little sister?

NICHOLAS THOMPSON: I hope I am. It's that simple. Whatever I do, I hope my brother and sister always trump me and they do better. I have no problem taking the back seat to both of them.

If he can stay in the Top 5 or even the Top 10, I imagine it'd keep him his TOUR card for next year.

Good story.

Young Drachma

10-07-2009, 03:31 PM

Michael Jordan is one of Fred Couples assistant captains for the Presidents Cup this week. They did an exclusive Q&A with him and it's a really fun glimpse of things related to him, golf, his relationship with Tiger Woods and his role this week.

hxxp://www.pgatour.com/2009/tournaments/presidentscup/10/06/jordan_qanda/index.html

:eek:

Big Fo

10-08-2009, 10:30 PM

Nice interview with Jordan.

They should schedule this competition the week before the baseball playoffs start, I would be a lot more likely to tune in otherwise. It's already hard enough competing with the NFL and college football.

I always thought it might be interesting if the International team played against Europe at some point, just so each side got two such competitions. It might not be as popular with no USA to play against but with England and Australia being big rivals in rugby and cricket I think there would be some interest in those parts of the world, plus the fact that there would be a lot of talent out there even without the US team. Maybe play it in January or February in some tropical area so it's not too close to the Ryder and Presidents Cups.

Young Drachma

10-08-2009, 10:50 PM

The Ashes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ashes) (England v. Australia) as a golf tournament would be pretty fucking awesome.

Big Fo

10-09-2009, 08:23 AM

Golf and rugby sevens will be in the 2016 Olympics. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/oct/09/ioc-olympics-golf-rugby-rio-2016)

Rugby was overwhelmingly accepted by the IOC members who voted 81-8 in its favour. Golf also achieved the necessary majority, by a margin of 63-27.

Good news for golf fans, it's a no-brainer for me, the sport is popular and played on every continent.

Ryan S

10-09-2009, 02:57 PM

The 2016 Olympics is going to seriously mess with the schedule. The PGA Championship will need to move to allow the Olympic tournament to take place, and if the PGA is moved to later in the season, it will push back the Fed Ex Cup (if it is still around) and the Ryder Cup.

Young Drachma

10-09-2009, 04:25 PM

Golf is indeed a no-brainer. I thought it was good, even if I'm annoyed they dumped baseball. I'm not sure I believe Rugby is more popular around the world than baseball, but Rugby might be the closest football ever gets to the Olympics, so...it's all good I guess.

Young Drachma

10-09-2009, 04:25 PM

Young Drachma

10-31-2009, 01:50 PM

Anthony Kim defeats Robert Allenby at World Match Play Championship - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=4611021)

Anthony Kim takes Robert Allenby out to the woodshed at the World Match Play.

Allenby lost to Kim during the Presidents Cup and had this to say about it at the time (http://msn.foxsports.com/golf/story/10206422/Allenby-calls-A.-Kim-the-'current-John-Daly'):

"Maybe we should all go out 'til 4 a.m. and show up and shoot 6 under," Allenby said.

Kim actually shot 2 under, against Allenby's five bogeys and only two birdies.

"He's the current John Daly," Allenby said, "He is the loosest cannon on that team."

Kim said he went to his room soon after the team's dinner Saturday night.

"I hope that was a joke," he said of Allenby's comments.

"I was in tip-top shape."

Kim's attitude had been something of an issue for the American team.

Earlier in the week, U.S. captain Fred Couples had words with Kim about his behavior. Couples said Sunday that he'd been "tough" with Kim.

"Not just me, everyone in the team was," Couples said, without identifying Kim's indiscretions.

Couples did say, however, that Kim was the least frequent visitor to the American team room, preferring to spend time with friends.

"You've got to understand, he's 24 years old," Couples said. "He's younger than a lot of the guys. He's not going to want to hang out with the wives or with Kenny Perry and I."

Couples said he thought Kim's attitude improved throughout the week, so much so that he awarded Kim one of only four Michael Jordan limited-edition Chicago Bulls jerseys given to the Americans' best. The other three went to Tiger Woods, Steve Stricker and Phil Mickelson.

Allenby apparently was pissed off during the match play loss yesterday, because he felt Kim didn't concede any putts.

"I was definitely surprised at not being given a few putts out there," Allenby told reporters after the opening 18 holes finished all square between them.

"I gave him a couple of four-footers. Maybe I'll do the same to him this afternoon."

In matchplay, opponents normally give putts inside three feet but Kim made Allenby putt out all morning.

Kim said: "I don't think I made him putt any short putts, maybe a two and a half footer. But it had a lot of break. It's matchplay."

Good for Kim to get it done on the course and to leave the mouthing out to the other folks.

Young Drachma

11-15-2009, 04:54 PM

Michelle Wie, age 20, wins the Lorena Ochoa Invitational in Mexico City today shooting a -13, two shots over Paula Creamer and 3 shots over a threesome that includes Morgan Pressel.

It's her first career LPGA tour victory, in this her first season as a card-carrying tour member.

Young Drachma

11-15-2009, 05:02 PM

She's only the 5th American woman to win on the LPGA tour this year.

Young Drachma

11-15-2009, 05:18 PM

Oh and Tiger Woods made good on his $3 million appearance fee he got for playing the Australian Masters, winning the tournament after teasing the field on Saturday before pulling away Sunday to win his first (And likely only?) gold jacket at the Aussie Masters. The state paid half of the appearance fee and there was some controversy about that, but their argument all along was that him showing up would result in $20 million in revenue.

Everyone thinks those numbers are dubious, but still say him being there gave the tournament a real "major" feel to it.

k0ruptr

02-14-2010, 04:25 PM

Don't look now, but David Duval is in 2nd with a chance on 18 to tie for the lead.

k0ruptr

02-14-2010, 04:27 PM

Dola, at Pebble no less :)

k0ruptr

02-14-2010, 04:30 PM

ahh damn, He just missed an AMAZING shot on approach, 1 more foot it woulda been golden.

k0ruptr

02-14-2010, 04:59 PM

Young Drachma

02-14-2010, 05:06 PM

Dustin Johnson made a bogey and Duval is @ -15 but tied for the lead. Johnson or Holmes still have a chance to win out right and not go to a playoff but man it sure would be nice to see Duval get a win here!

Glad to see Duval doing well. Also good to see he still has a Nike deal (nominal or not) over all of these years.

Dr. Sak

02-14-2010, 05:14 PM

I was really pulling for Duval today. I know he's in The Masters and the US Open but it would've been nice for him to get the win and his card for the year.

k0ruptr

02-14-2010, 05:14 PM

And Dustin Johnson birdies 18 to win out right, and back to back @ Pebble. See, golf can still be awesome without Tiger!

Dr. Sak

02-14-2010, 05:17 PM

Hey k0ruptr, I'm headed to Oahu in May and want to play golf one day. What are some good courses? I would love to play one with a view of the ocean.

k0ruptr

02-14-2010, 05:24 PM

One of the nicer ones off the beaten path is the Makaha Resort and Golf club.

But , I think the nicest one imo is Ko Olina . Google it and check it out, you may have even heard of it. but both would have a nice ocean view. Makaha from up the hill and Ko Olina even has a couple holes on the ocean.

k0ruptr

02-14-2010, 05:25 PM

Dola, if some how you can hop over to the Big Island one day ( i know probably not) but if you somehow did DEFINITELY Golf at Mauna Lani, either course. its one of the most beautiful , underrated, unknown golf courses in the US.

Dr. Sak

02-14-2010, 05:33 PM

Thank you!

Thomkal

02-14-2010, 09:12 PM

Big fan of local boy Dustin Johnson, so thrilled to see him pull the win out of what was a pretty miserable round, but at least he didn't have one of the three '9" on that one hole-and this wasn't even the US Open setup. It's going to be pretty scary come June.

Young Drachma

02-15-2010, 12:49 AM

That hole was brutal.

Young Drachma

08-29-2010, 06:25 PM

Tiger Woods has a solid finish at the Barclays Championship in New Jersey today to finish in the Top 100 and advance to the next round of the (somewhat illogical) PGA Tour FedEx Cup Playoffs. Matt Kuchar notched his 3rd career victory today in a playoff, a good win for a guy who had a great amateur career.

20-year old Michelle Wie won the Canadian Open today for her 2nd career victory today, too. She turns 21 in October and is concurrently attending Stanford while playing on the LPGA Tour.

k0ruptr

08-29-2010, 06:41 PM

Proud of Michelle , she went wire to wire and did excellent.

thealmighty

08-29-2010, 11:19 PM

How did Austin12 miss this thread?

RomaGoth

08-29-2010, 11:29 PM

How did Austin12 miss this thread?

Because he was too busy starting 57 of his own.

Atocep

08-30-2010, 12:20 AM

Because he was too busy starting 57 of his own.

He's just trying to help the amateur golfers with tips and wholesale prices.

Young Drachma

04-09-2011, 05:24 PM

Rory McIlroy still leads through 14 holes on Day 3 at -10, getting a bit closer to the field rather than running away with it. A quarter of four including K.J. Choi and Jason Day sit at -8 and meanwhile Tiger Woods is still in the hunt but as usual shoots himself in the foot with streaking putting after playing quite well yesterday.

He's down four at six under and just blew a chance at eagle and birdie on 15. I don't like his chances.

McIlroy could win this thing and lead wire to wire, but I feel like one of the guys in back will end up taking it out. I think Day could do it.

Ryan S

04-09-2011, 05:48 PM

Tiger Woods is still in the hunt but as usual shoots himself in the foot with streaking putting after playing quite well yesterday.

It has been a long time since Tiger strung together 4 good rounds. Even if he goes low on Sunday he still has to be considered an outsider.

I think McIlroy will win (the first of many majors?) but I would keep my eye on Charl Schwartzel.

Young Drachma

04-09-2011, 05:52 PM

It has been a long time since Tiger strung together 4 good rounds. Even if he goes low on Sunday he still has to be considered an outsider.

I think McIlroy will win (the first of many majors?) but I would keep my eye on Charl Schwartzel.

Rory's been picking up steam and I think he's locked in and no one seems to be really going after him. And he's looking good, so it'd be good to see him get his first one (and yes, I agree the first of many...no doubt.)

The thing with Woods is his lack of consistency, but how cerebral he seems to be. That birdie miss on 15, you could see from his body language that he was going to blow the shot and it's one he usually makes. I haven't really watched him a lot during this slump, but catching his round today it's clear how much he's fallen off even from a few days ago. He probably needs a year off and a good shrink.

Dr. Sak

04-09-2011, 06:36 PM

Don't count out Angel Cabrera...all that guy does is win Majors.

larrymcg421

04-10-2011, 02:13 PM

Shaky start for Rory. Schwartzel made an insane Eagle shot on a par 4 and is now tied for the lead. Tiger with 3 birdies and a bogey is now 4 shots back.

Ryan S

04-10-2011, 02:32 PM

I haven't really watched him a lot during this slump, but catching his round today it's clear how much he's fallen off even from a few days ago. He probably needs a year off and a good shrink.

There is a fair chance that he will never be the same player again.

mauchow

04-10-2011, 02:32 PM

Tiger is back in the mix after that big Eagle. Will Rory feel the pressure?

Young Drachma

04-10-2011, 02:45 PM

An interesting finish I hope. Just want to see some good golf.

Young Drachma

04-10-2011, 02:47 PM

Bogey for McIlroy and now we have a three-way tie for first. Wow.

I had a strong feeling last night McIlroy would come back to the field. I just didn't think Tiger would be the one to chase him on Sunday.

larrymcg421

04-10-2011, 02:49 PM

Wow, what a great putt by Tiger to save par on the 9th and preserve his share of the lead.

Rory is not playing well at all right now.

cmp

04-10-2011, 02:49 PM

All of a sudden Tiger can putt.

Young Drachma

04-10-2011, 03:10 PM

Wow, clutch putt by McIlroy. Sky Sports is sure rooting for the kid openly that's for sure.

Dr. Sak

04-10-2011, 04:00 PM

Rory McIroy has turned into Roy McAvoy

Dr. Sak

04-10-2011, 04:06 PM

This is Greg Norman-esk choking

Young Drachma

04-10-2011, 04:11 PM

This is Greg Norman-esk choking

Yeah. I was gone, came back and walked into his triple-bogey. Wow.

Chief Rum

04-10-2011, 04:14 PM

Wow, this is intense. Great second shot for Tiger to get 5' away from an eagle and the lead. And then he blows the putt.

kcchief19

04-10-2011, 04:23 PM

If Tiger had made his eagle, I'd have been tempted to say it's over. This birdie putt at 16 could have a similar effect.

kcchief19

04-10-2011, 04:31 PM

Wow. Tiger's about an inch from a three shot lead. He's had extremely narrow misses on the back nine.

If I had to put money on anybody right now, I'm tempted to put it on Schwartzel -- another case of The Masters or the US Open making a somebody out of nobody. Speaking of which, hey, it's Angel Cabrera! Of course, I can picture anybody -9 or better winning right now.

Sad thing for Rory is that he's already out of contention and his still puking all over himself. He's bringing 80 into play.

Young Drachma

04-10-2011, 04:31 PM

The dudes on SkySports are having a meltdown with Rory's choke job. They're trying to rationalize it, but this five-way tie is bonkers.

Tiger has to find some way to get the outright lead before he goes into the clubhouse.

mauchow

04-10-2011, 04:32 PM

Rory continuing his downward spiral. 7 over for the day. If only the tourney was 9 holes shorter.

And as I type this.. he knocks one into the tiniest creek on the course. He might end up over par for the tourney. Not that money matters that much to him but he just lost a lot of money and a lot of confidence.

Young Drachma

04-10-2011, 04:34 PM

Ok, I feel terrible for Rory. This is just awful.

kcchief19

04-10-2011, 04:36 PM

If Ogilvy or Tiger can get to -11, I like their chances. I'm not sure I see anyone getting to -12. Should we start planning the playoff?

Watch out for Scott and Day ... they seem to be dialing in.

Young Drachma

04-10-2011, 04:38 PM

If Ogilvy or Tiger can get to -11, I like their chances. I'm not sure I see anyone getting to -12. Should we start planning the playoff?

Watch out for Scott and Day ... they seem to dialing in.

Yeah, no doubt we'll get a playoff I think unless a lot of dudes go Rory on the last few holes on the back nine.

Adam Scott just takes possession of 1st alone. I think Tiger just left too many shots on the board, again. (And I realize the absurdity of saying that when a guy goes -5 under on the last day)

kcchief19

04-10-2011, 04:40 PM

Tiger must birdie 18 ... I don't see everyone puking and making -10 a playoff number.

When did Adam Scott change to the long putter? Seems to be helping.

Young Drachma

04-10-2011, 04:43 PM

Tiger must birdie 18 ... I don't see everyone puking and making -10 a playoff number.

When did Adam Scott change to the long putter? Seems to be helping.

Just before the World Match Play. Seems to be helping a lot.

Bo Van Pelt eagles to get to -10.

kcchief19

04-10-2011, 04:45 PM

If Luke Donald doesn't find Rae's Creek on 12, he might have been the guy. He could still make it to -11. Five guys at -10, three more at -9? Wild finish.

kcchief19

04-10-2011, 04:49 PM

Oh geez ... Scott just put an easy approach on 15 in the lumber yard.

Tiger's approach into 18 pretty much ends it for him. This is a nasty birdie putt.

kcchief19

04-10-2011, 04:55 PM

Wow ... is Scott taking an unplayable or is he getting relief from the grandstand?

Guess he got a free drop. Even though it was a bad lie, he still ended up with a decent look at the hole. That was a bad pitch shot. If he three putts, everybody is back in this.

Young Drachma

04-10-2011, 04:55 PM

Win, lose or draw to get himself back into contention like that was masterful.

Young Drachma

04-10-2011, 05:01 PM

Looks like Scott might take it short of a major blunder off the tee going down the line.

Chief Rum

04-10-2011, 05:04 PM

Wow. Adam Scott.

kcchief19

04-10-2011, 05:04 PM

And that shot on 16 just won Adam Scott the Masters.

Chief Rum

04-10-2011, 05:05 PM

And that shot on 16 just won Adam Scott the Masters.

:+1:

mauchow

04-10-2011, 05:14 PM

Bah, tornado warnings cutting into the Masters. :) The Weatherman apologized for it at least.

mauchow

04-10-2011, 05:18 PM

Scott will need to make a big shot here...

Young Drachma

04-10-2011, 05:20 PM

If I had to put money on anybody right now, I'm tempted to put it on Schwartzel -- another case of The Masters or the US Open making a somebody out of nobody.

Nice work, sir.

SackAttack

04-10-2011, 05:27 PM

Bah, tornado warnings cutting into the Masters. :) The Weatherman apologized for it at least.

It's been pretty calm here since the last storm rolled through. Hoping it stays that way.

mauchow

04-10-2011, 05:32 PM

It's been pretty calm here since the last storm rolled through. Hoping it stays that way.

We missed most of it last night and it looks like we won't get hit with the bad part of this storm but we'll still get some thunder and lightning. I will have to pull in my new car before the hail comes. Was hoping to get a little free car wash but not going to chance it with hail possible. lol

Ryan S

04-10-2011, 05:36 PM

I should have put money on Schwartzel yesterday when I tipped him here.

Buccaneer

04-10-2011, 05:43 PM

Whew. Now they can tell that scum Tiger to go home.

cartman

04-10-2011, 05:55 PM

That was one hell of a final round. I can't remember the last time so many people had a shot at winning going into the back 9 at a major.

k0ruptr

04-10-2011, 05:56 PM

I'm glad Tiger finished well. good to see him back in the swing of things!

kcchief19

04-10-2011, 08:51 PM

You can't take it away from Schwartzel, because he played well enough for three days to get into contention. But what an amazing flukey run to the title he had. He holes one shot out from the fairway, another long pitch shot and then he started draining long-distance putts in the birdie binge at the end.

I really thought that shot at 16 would cinch it for Scott. Then after he tried to throw it away he manages to scramble for pars.

Never would have thought anybody could finish with 4 straight birdies at Augusta to win like that. Hats off to him.

k0ruptr

04-10-2011, 08:56 PM

Yea the 4 straight birdies were pretty damn amazing. Seems like at hole 15 he decided, yea fuck this im gonna tear it up. And then on 18 needing a two putt to win, he's like hell with that, watch this bitches.

Easy Mac

04-11-2011, 09:39 AM

I'm glad Tiger finished well. good to see him back in the swing of things!

You mean having sex again, right?

Mizzou B-ball fan

04-11-2011, 10:20 AM

I'm glad Tiger finished well. good to see him back in the swing of things!

Tiger doesn't seem to have learned a thing from this whole mess he put himself into. That interview just after he signed his scorecard was brutal. I get that you can't make firm comments until you find out if you're in a playoff or not, but the short, terse manner he used for his responses just showed that he's still a self-centered, grade A jackass. Show some class, Tiger. I actually do want to root for you, but maybe it's like wrestling. We need a 'heel' on the PGA Tour to root against to keep things interesting.

Sublime 2

04-11-2011, 10:51 AM

Tiger doesn't seem to have learned a thing from this whole mess he put himself into. That interview just after he signed his scorecard was brutal. I get that you can't make firm comments until you find out if you're in a playoff or not, but the short, terse manner he used for his responses just showed that he's still a self-centered, grade A jackass. Show some class, Tiger. I actually do want to root for you, but maybe it's like wrestling. We need a 'heel' on the PGA Tour to root against to keep things interesting.

Do that many people really root against him (I seriously don't know)?

He's certainly not personable, but I truthfully don't care, I just love watching the guy play.

B & B

04-11-2011, 11:14 AM

I had a strong dislike for Tiger before his meltdown and widely reported situation. Mainly due to the television coverage he was getting and the lack of coverage folks on the leaderboard were able to draw.

Nowadays, hes easily the most polarized golfer in the world. The majority of women dont like him for obvious reasons while on the other end are the drunken cigar smoking whales who treat him as a God.

I was in a Masters pool of about 40 people. Going into the tournament Phil was the heavy favorite with Tiger considered a #2. A few years ago there was a strict rule that stating that you COULDNT take Tiger, because literally everyone did while he was on his Championship run.

Generally, people dont pick golfers that they dont want to root for come Sunday.

95% of the entries had Phil

40% had Tiger

3% had Rory

Nobody took Charl.

Radii

04-11-2011, 12:18 PM

I'm 100% indifferent on tiger as far as his play goes. The only part about him that bothers me is the media coverage. I hated after day 3 when Rory was playing so great and there were like 7 other people between him and Tiger over half of the stories and the headline picture on ESPN were still about Tiger. I was at the time rooting for him to just fall out of contention because I *really* didn't want him to be 6 strokes back on Sunday yet getting half the attention if there was the logjam at the top. He played his way into contention and deserved all the coverage he got so fine, whatever.

I can't decide if I'm cherrypicking at MBBF's comments b/c I always assume he's going to say something silly here or not... but wasn't Tigers gruff short answers in the past a sign of competitiveness and a good thing? We didn't want him to be like everyone else on tour, we wanted him to get mad and give short answers because he wanted to win more than everyone else and that's one of the ways it shows. Now that he's an adulterer, its a sign that he's an asshole? I don't get it.

digamma

04-11-2011, 12:22 PM

Mainly due to the television coverage he was getting and the lack of coverage folks on the leaderboard were able to draw.

A friend who works at CBS told me yesterday afternoon that their ratings guys calculate the difference between Tiger being in the mix and not is about 4.5 points.

Pretty easy coverage decision.

Mizzou B-ball fan

04-11-2011, 12:48 PM

Wasn't Tigers gruff short answers in the past a sign of competitiveness and a good thing? We didn't want him to be like everyone else on tour, we wanted him to get mad and give short answers because he wanted to win more than everyone else and that's one of the ways it shows. Now that he's an adulterer, its a sign that he's an asshole? I don't get it.

No, he was a jackass before. It's just that most people made excuses for it as you rightly point out. We don't have many doing that anymore.

JonInMiddleGA

04-11-2011, 01:16 PM

No, he was a jackass before.

This. I can't say that I root any harder against him now than I did before, I figured out I couldn't stand the SOB before his wife figured out the same.

We don't have many doing that anymore.

I'd argue that there aren't as many, but I'm not sure that brings it down to the level of "not many", if that makes sense. I think the bigger difference might be in fewer excuses but more people willing to at least tacitly admit that they simply don't care if he's a jackass.

Kevin

04-11-2011, 08:29 PM

Tiger doesn't seem to have learned a thing from this whole mess he put himself into. That interview just after he signed his scorecard was brutal. I get that you can't make firm comments until you find out if you're in a playoff or not, but the short, terse manner he used for his responses just showed that he's still a self-centered, grade A jackass. Show some class, Tiger. I actually do want to root for you, but maybe it's like wrestling. We need a 'heel' on the PGA Tour to root against to keep things interesting.

I am not a big tiger fan...... except when he does those interviews. It's about time pro athletes call out the numbskull reporters for asking inane bullshit questions. I would have cheered more if he had just said "stupid question... next?"

JonInMiddleGA

04-11-2011, 08:42 PM

A friend who works at CBS told me yesterday afternoon that their ratings guys calculate the difference between Tiger being in the mix and not is about 4.5 points. Pretty easy coverage decision.

And that sounds like the figure for "new Tiger", I'd be surprised if the number for "old Tiger" wasn't even higher.

k0ruptr

04-11-2011, 09:15 PM

I think Tiger needs to be him self. And not be a cyborg of nike.

Mizzou B-ball fan

08-14-2011, 05:33 PM

Crazy good drama going on right now if you're not watching. Leader was ahead by four with four holes to go. He's now on the 17th tee only one shot ahead. Fun stuff.

Mizzou B-ball fan

08-14-2011, 05:42 PM

And it's now a tie. Four shot lead gone in three holes. One hole left to play.

Young Drachma

08-14-2011, 06:21 PM

Got home just in time to see this one done. Always enjoy when new guys come out of the woodwork to capture a major.

mauchow

08-14-2011, 06:41 PM

Now we need a bogey and birdie here.

Thomkal

08-14-2011, 07:24 PM

I turned off the TV when Dufner had a 5 shot lead at one point only to turn it back on when the playoff started. He just looked totally spent at the end there. And who would have put odds on a Dufner/Bradley playoff when the tournament started? Absolutely no one of course. Crazy finish and tournament-the most double bogeys ever in a PGA championship.

Young Drachma

08-14-2011, 08:58 PM

To miss ten cuts in a year and then to win a major? I guess it's important to get hot at the right time, no? Heck of a job.

Young Drachma

12-04-2011, 03:49 PM

Tiger Woods tied with <s>Dustin</s> Zach Johnson at -8 with five holes to go at the Chevron World Challenge.

Thomkal

12-04-2011, 04:04 PM

Tiger Woods tied with Dustin Johnson at -8 with five holes to go at the Chevron World Challenge.

Unfortunately that would be Zach Johnson not Dustin. Dustin had to pull out to have knee surgery which he's needed since July apparently at the British Open. Won't be back playing again till January some time.

Young Drachma

12-04-2011, 04:37 PM

Unfortunately that would be Zach Johnson not Dustin. Dustin had to pull out to have knee surgery which he's needed since July apparently at the British Open. Won't be back playing again till January some time.

That's what I meant. I just typed it too fast.

kingfc22

12-04-2011, 04:48 PM

Big birdie putt on 17th for Tiger.

Tied headed into the 18th.

kingfc22

12-04-2011, 05:02 PM

And he makes two putts on the last two holes for the W.

Young Drachma

12-04-2011, 05:02 PM

Tiger wins.

Dr. Sak

12-04-2011, 05:44 PM

Color me unimpressed that he beat a hand picked field of only 18 players. He did make clutch putts coming down the stretch, but until he wins with a full field, I will hold off calling Tiger back.

Atocep

12-04-2011, 05:54 PM

Color me unimpressed that he beat a hand picked field of only 18 players. He did make clutch putts coming down the stretch, but until he wins with a full field, I will hold off calling Tiger back.

Back to being Tiger? No. But results aside the last month is the best he's hit the ball in quite some time.

Vince, Pt. II

01-28-2012, 09:13 PM

So I took third in my golf tournament today with a net 68 (gross 90). 2nd place shot a 67, and the winner shot a 66. First time I've ever placed, and I shot a great round of golf today, so I'm pretty pumped.

Except for my six three-putts. I actually had a string of six consecutive Greens in Regulation, and I only parred one of them. My putter was complete ass today. Incredibly frustrating round of golf for that reason alone. Still one of the best rounds I've ever golfed though - course is 70.9/130, par 72. My index is 19.1. I was striking the ball incredibly well today, and my accuracy with my irons was just this side of amazing.

Can't wait to get back out there again!

Edit: The course was Ridgemark Country Club in Hollister, CA.

johnnyshaka

01-30-2012, 12:42 PM

Blackadar

01-30-2012, 12:44 PM

NICE!!!

I miss playing golf. :(

I look forward to the summers when I'll have a chance to get back to my 30-40 rounds but that won't happen for quite some time...either when my girls move out or actually take an interest in it. The latter would be AWESOME!!!

Likewise. My 12 year old shows no interest nor aptitude in golf, so it'll be probably 10-16 more years before I can get back to playing (once my daughter grows up).

johnnyshaka

01-30-2012, 01:08 PM

Likewise. My 12 year old shows no interest nor aptitude in golf, so it'll be probably 10-16 more years before I can get back to playing (once my daughter grows up).

Mine are 5 and 3 and are "girly girls" thus far...we'll see if school changes that. I have taken the oldest to play mini-putt and she seems to enjoy that so hopefully that translates to "real" golf one day...like it did for me so many years ago.

*praying smiley*

Blackadar

01-30-2012, 01:10 PM

Mine are 5 and 3 and are "girly girls" thus far...we'll see if school changes that. I have taken the oldest to play mini-putt and she seems to enjoy that so hopefully that translates to "real" golf one day...like it did for me so many years ago.

*praying smiley*

Don't count on it. My 12 year old still likes mini-golf, but has no interest in the real thing.

Maybe my 2 year old daughter will be different. But with her 'tude (she was born a diva), giving her a metal club may not be the best of ideas.

johnnyshaka

01-30-2012, 01:53 PM

Young Drachma

03-25-2012, 03:39 PM

Tiger is -14 through 9 holes (-3 on the day) at Bay Hill, with a 4 stroke lead on Graeme McDowell.

k0ruptr

03-25-2012, 03:54 PM

Tiger looking like Tiger?

Young Drachma

03-25-2012, 04:04 PM

Tiger looking like Tiger?

Pretty damn close.

NBC picked up this final round coverage from Golf Channel. He's looking pretty confident and McDowell just bogeyed after getting within 3 to fall back down to 4.

Atocep

03-25-2012, 04:09 PM

His ball striking has been old Tiger-ish for several weeks now. His putting has been a disaster though. This weekend everything has been coming together for him and he's looked really good.

Love him or hate him golf is a hell of a lot more interesting when Tiger is playing well.

kcchief19

03-25-2012, 04:16 PM

Love him or hate him golf is a hell of a lot more interesting when Tiger is playing well.
I don't really like Tiger, but I love watching him play golf. When he is himself, I don't think anybody in the world can still touch him. It's just a matter of being healthy and focused.

His putting touch has been much better this week for sure.

Matthean

03-25-2012, 04:49 PM

Love him or hate him golf is a hell of a lot more interesting when Tiger is playing well.

+1. Amazing to think his drought has made me want to see him win again and even become half of what he use to be.

SirFozzie

03-25-2012, 05:25 PM

Tiger hasn't even played super.. he's just managed to keep his head while everyone else was losing theirs.. he was the only one of the final fifteen or eighteen folders to be below par in round 4

MacroGuru

03-25-2012, 05:32 PM

Nice!

Happy to see Tiger finally get a win...I think the Masters will be exciting this year.

Young Drachma

03-25-2012, 05:32 PM

So good to see a Tiger win finally.

kcchief19

03-25-2012, 09:12 PM

Tiger hasn't even played super.. he's just managed to keep his head while everyone else was losing theirs.. he was the only one of the final fifteen or eighteen folders to be below par in round 4
There are two classic Tiger approaches. One is to stick around on Thursday and Friday and then go nuts on Saturday, take the lead and never look back. The other was what we saw this weekend ... Big round early, hold the lead Saturday, then never look back on Sunday. Only two guys in the whole field went lower than him today -- with the Sunday pins, going lower than 68 was almost impossible.

My disappointment is that I don't think we're going to ever get the full Tiger back. The current Tiger will win if he hits fairways, hits greens and makes putts. The only Tiger could miss eight fairways and still hit a three-iron stiff to scramble for birdie. He can still score birdies, but only if he's hitting fairways.

You know Tiger's going to be among the leaders on Sunday at Augusta ... if he can finally win there again, I'll believe he is fully back.

Ksyrup

03-26-2012, 10:20 AM

John Ourand ‏ <S>@</S>Ourand_SBJ
What does Tiger mean to sports TV ratings? Sunday overnights for golf were up +129% (4.8 vs. 2.1), while NCAA games down -17% (6.6 vs. 8.6).

KWhit

03-26-2012, 08:23 PM

And I just found out that I will be going to the Masters this year. I have a ticket to Monday's practice round and then...

Fucking Sunday!

lcjjdnh

03-26-2012, 08:31 PM

And I just found out that I will be going to the Masters this year. I have a ticket to Monday's practice round and then...

Fucking Sunday!

Awesome! Went to the PGA Championship one year and had a blast. Watching golf in person is really an underrated experience--especially when its a major.

Young Drachma

04-01-2012, 06:28 PM

For U.S. Mid-Amateur champion Randal Lewis, Masters week pure fantasy - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/golf/masters12/story/_/id/7754403/for-us-mid-amateur-champion-randal-lewis-masters-week-pure-fantasy)

Great article about the U.S. Mid-Am champ at the Masters this week.

cartman

04-03-2012, 09:06 PM

On Masters Monday, some of the players were goofing around at practice, skipping shots across the water at 16, when this happens (2nd shot in video):

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KWhit

04-03-2012, 09:14 PM

Awesome. One of my favorite holes on the course. And it's always cool to watch them skip the balls across the pond.

Scoobz0202

04-03-2012, 09:15 PM

That's awesome. I think Vijay did that a few years back. At least i think it was Vijay.

MrBug708

04-03-2012, 09:17 PM

Wonder if he tries that this weekend?

Scoobz0202

04-08-2012, 06:29 PM

Bubba's recovery on the 2nd playoff hole was insane.

k0ruptr

04-08-2012, 06:42 PM

Amazing amazing shot.

Logan

04-08-2012, 06:49 PM

That was a hell of an awkward handshake.

Young Drachma

04-08-2012, 06:50 PM

Kudos to Bubba on his first major.

spleen1015

04-08-2012, 06:56 PM

One of the best Masters in a long time, IMO.

JonInMiddleGA

04-08-2012, 07:09 PM

I don't often use this sort of language but ... Good Dawg Bubba, good Dawg :)

JonInMiddleGA

04-09-2012, 07:00 AM

There'll be any number of good columns written about yesterday's Watson win, this is one of them.
Watson's win at Masters is good for golf (http://www.foxsportssouth.com/04/08/12/Watsons-win-at-Masters-good-for-the-game/landing.html?blockID=705332&feedID=3796)

RomaGoth

04-09-2012, 04:49 PM

One of the best Masters in a long time, IMO.

Completely agree. I rarely watch golf for longer than about 10 minutes, but I found myself glued to this Master's for nearly 3 hours yesterday.

A great win for Bubba on a helluva shot out of the woods there on the 10th hole.

Matthean

04-13-2012, 07:53 AM

Young Drachma

04-13-2012, 09:00 AM

Oh goodness. Heh.

Matthean

04-13-2012, 09:12 AM

It needed more lyrics. It's times like this were I wished Tiger wasn't so uptight so he would have included himself in this. Even if they did a transition to showing him sitting down with a drink in hand looking all classy busting out some rhymes. Something, just anything to help break down the walls between him and the masses.

Vince, Pt. II

04-13-2012, 09:41 AM

Not to derail from pro golf, but anyone have any recommendations for a golf bag? I bought a new one a few years back and it's a pile of junk. I'll probably pick up a walking bag, as even though I cart it most of the time I do walk occasionally. Seems like it's a total preference kind of thing, but I'm open to any feedback before I buy.

Young Drachma

06-03-2012, 04:31 PM

Tiger Woods leads the Memorial by 1 stroke, after being down most of the day. The 3rd rounder leader Levin came back to the field. Rory Sabbitini was tied, but just bogeyed to go down by 1. Tiger is on 18 now. A win today would tie Jack Nicklaus with 73 career PGA tour victories. (Obviously a lot more events now than when Jack was playing...)

Sabbitini is in the final group, so he still has a shot to see what Tiger does and match it with two to go.

Tiger is look super confident though, which regardless of whether he wins outright or they go to a playoff, is good to see.

No video yet of the crazy shot Tiger hit to get himself back in this thing, but it'll be up there with one of his best ever.

Young Drachma

06-03-2012, 04:33 PM

This is Tiger's flop shot on 16.

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Young Drachma

06-03-2012, 04:37 PM

Tiger just birdied 18 to finish -9. That should do it. 3 birdies in the last 4 holes to win this thing short of a magical finish by Sabbitini to tie it.

Grover

06-03-2012, 04:45 PM

So he's the favorite in the next major automatically, right?

cartman

06-03-2012, 04:47 PM

Jack called that the best shot he'd ever seen at the Memorial. It is funny to see Tiger still gets googly-eyed when talking to Jack, even though he has almost surpassed him.

Young Drachma

06-03-2012, 04:57 PM

So he's the favorite in the next major automatically, right?

If he plays like he did today? Damn skippy. He's never been much of a comeback artist in his pro career, so seeing him grind out a victory by hitting Tiger-like shots and attacking to take a victory he might not have otherwise got was pretty impressive. Without that shot on 16, he's only got a 1 stroke lead and I'm guessing one of those other two guys might have had the inspiration to try to birdie 17 or 18 to get tied or with him for a playoff.

But he played inspired golf. We'll see how he does at Olympic though.

k0ruptr

06-03-2012, 05:15 PM

that was a hell of a shot on 16.

kingfc22

06-04-2012, 12:01 AM

that was a hell of a shot on 16.

Yes. That was pretty incredible.

I'm still not fully sold on him being a consistent Top 10 finisher yet.

cartman

06-04-2012, 10:55 AM

In non-PGA news, the University of Texas won their 3rd NCAA National Championship and first since 1972 (when Tom Kite and Ben Crenshaw were on the team) on a 30 foot putt on the 18th hole to win the match 1 up over Alabama.

Young Drachma

06-04-2012, 11:02 AM

Oh wow, if the Alabama guys had won they'd have matched the women's team who won their first this year.

Ryan S

06-04-2012, 01:21 PM

Yes. That was pretty incredible.

I'm still not fully sold on him being a consistent Top 10 finisher yet.

I think that Tiger is easily a Top 10 world ranking level player at the moment, but he has a lot of work yet to do before I say he is the best in the world, let alone anywhere near pre scandal Tiger.

cartman

06-04-2012, 01:32 PM

I think that Tiger is easily a Top 10 world ranking level player at the moment, but he has a lot of work yet to do before I say he is the best in the world, let alone anywhere near pre scandal Tiger.

Yep. He is currently 4th in the World Golf Rankings, up from his #23 spot at the end of last season.

http://www.officialworldgolfranking.com/home/default.sps

k0ruptr

06-04-2012, 08:04 PM

If Tiger putts and hits GIR like he did this week, he has an excellent shot at the Open.

Then again, I'm pretty sure Tiger and The Olympic Club haven't really gotten along over the years.

Young Drachma

06-05-2012, 01:19 PM

2012 U.S. Open -- Casey Martin qualifies for Olympic Club -- 14 years after his only major appearance there - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/golf/usopen12/story/_/id/8010607/2012-us-open-casey-martin-qualifies-olympic-club-14-years-only-major-appearance-there)

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-05-2012, 02:12 PM

Video: Journeyman golfer holes incredible putt to punch U.S. Open ticket | Devil Ball Golf - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/golf-devil-ball-golf/video-journeyman-golfer-holes-incredible-putt-punch-u-051035955.html)

Young Drachma

07-22-2012, 01:23 PM

42-year old Ernie Els wins the British Open after Adam Scott wasted a 5-shot lead on the final day. So pumped for him!

Ernie Els wins British Open 2012 as Adam Scott collapses at Lytham and St. Annes | GOLF.com (http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/ernie-els-wins-british-open-2012-adam-scott-collapses-lytham-and-st-annes?sct=hp_t11_a0&eref=sihp)

NorvTurnerOverdrive

07-22-2012, 01:29 PM

adam scott burst into flames down the stretch. awful to watch

Thomkal

07-22-2012, 01:47 PM

Yeah he had a four shot lead with four to go, so I turned to other things for a bit, came back to find him in the middle of his third straight bogey of four-painful to watch, was rooting for him over Els since he's not won a major yet (and probably never will now after that epic collapse)

Young Drachma

07-22-2012, 01:48 PM

Yeah that was a Norman-esque meltdown.

Young Drachma

07-24-2012, 04:21 PM

10-year-old girl qualifies for U.S. Women's Amateur (http://blogs.golf.com/presstent/2012/07/latanna-stone-10-qualifies-for-us-womens-amateur.html?sct=hp_t2_a12&eref=sihp)

Ping: WrongWay

Add the name Latanna Stone to the list of qualifiers for the U.S. Women's Amateur, which will be held next month in Cleveland. Stone won medalist honors after firing a 70 on July 13 at the Wanderers Club in Wellington, Fla.

So, what makes Stone so special?

She's 4-feet-8-inches tall. Also, she's 10 years old.

Ten.

Stone is reportedly the youngest person to qualify for a USGA event, breaking the previous record of 12. The tournament will take place Aug. 6-12 at The Country Club in Cleveland.

Stone has apparently been preparing for her time in the spotlight. She has a big-name coach, Charlotta Sorenstam (Annika's younger sister), and her own website, which states that Stone has won 102 tournaments and drives the ball 180 yards. And yes, Stone also has her own Twitter account.

Read more: http://blogs.golf.com/presstent/2012/07/latanna-stone-10-qualifies-for-us-womens-amateur.html?sct=hp_t2_a12&eref=sihp#ixzz21ZrSX6E3

Big Fo

07-24-2012, 04:31 PM

I can hit the ball about 100 yards further than her but have never gotten close to a 70 :(

Scoobz0202

07-24-2012, 05:18 PM

Re: Reds

Xavier Paul is batting ahead of Todd Frazier. Derp.

britrock88

07-24-2012, 08:47 PM

I can hit the ball about 100 yards further than her but have never gotten close to a 70 :(

Straight and short. Next time I play, i'll hit 5-irons all the way in. Has to be worth trying once, right?

Young Drachma

08-26-2012, 10:16 PM

Amateur Lydia Ko, 15, becomes youngest LPGA winner by taking Canadian Women's Open - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/golf/story/_/id/8305148/amateur-lydia-ko-15-becomes-youngest-lpga-winner-taking-canadian-women-open)

The 15-year-old Ko is used to questions about her future, and she handled the latest round with ease Sunday after running away with the Canadian Women's Open to become the youngest winner in LPGA Tour history and only the fifth amateur champion.

"I'll still remain an amateur and then finish high school and then go to college," said Ko, who has mentioned Stanford as her college of choice. "I mean this is a great win, but I don't think this will affect me changing my roots to my career."

The South Korean-born New Zealander closed with a 5-under 67 for a three-stroke victory. She broke the age record of 16 set by Lexi Thompson last September in the Navistar LPGA Classic in Alabama, and is the first amateur winner since JoAnne Carner in the 1969 Burdine's Invitational.

Thomkal

09-02-2012, 03:06 PM

Might want to turn it over to NBC-Louis Oosthuizen is now at -19 thru 10 holes, has made 7 birdies in a row.

Mizzou B-ball fan

04-12-2013, 12:54 PM

Breeze

04-12-2013, 01:13 PM

Time to bump this thread. Lots of moves both up and down at the Masters this afternoon. Lefty just put it in the creek on 12. Dustin Johnson playing well. Good to see Fred Couples make a run at the title right now too.

Edit: The live feed of Amen Corner is showing right now online. Fun to watch.

" + text + space + " (http://2013.masters.com/en_US/console/console.html?ts=1365780566883&video=ac&syn=ESPN&db=false&ref=espn.go.com/&alt=&launchby=html)

Unfortunately, Freddy's back will probably cause him problems by Sunday and he'll fade...That's sort of been his MO the last few years...

I'd love to see Freddy win it though...

Mizzou B-ball fan

04-12-2013, 01:19 PM

Watching the Amen Corner feed. That grass looks immaculate even on HD when they zoom in for a close shot of the ball. Just incredible.

JonInMiddleGA

04-12-2013, 02:20 PM

Guan wasn't even born the last time a penalty was issued for slow play, against Glen Day at the 1995 Honda Classic.

I sure hope that this was such a clearly over-the-top situation that there's no way on Earth the penalty could have been avoided, otherwise it sure could look like somebody took issue with a 14-year old not only making the field but making the cut as well.

Thomkal

04-12-2013, 02:21 PM

Dustin Johnson just rips my heart out again-birdies 13 to take a two stroke lead at -7, then inexplicably totally collapses with a bogey on 14 an unbelievably bad double bogey at the par 5 15, parred 16, bogeyed 17, double bogeyed 18 after not getting out a greenside bunker on his first try on 18. At -1, but given how difficult the course is playing today, still in with a chance at the weekend.

Logan

04-12-2013, 02:21 PM

I sure hope that this was such a clearly over-the-top situation that there's no way on Earth the penalty could have been avoided, otherwise it sure could look like somebody took issue with a 14-year old not only making the field but making the cut as well.

PGA golfers seem to be coming to his defense:

PGA Tour players respond to the slow play penalty Augusta National gave Tianlang Guan | Devil Ball Golf - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/golf-devil-ball-golf/pga-tour-players-respond-slow-play-penalty-augusta-191208601--golf.html)

JonInMiddleGA

04-12-2013, 02:42 PM

Apparently this official is somewhat notorious already. He's the guy who put Tiger & Harrington "on the clock" back in 2009, while they were battling for the win at the Bridgestone.

RealClearSports - Tiger Controversy is What Golf Needs (http://www.realclearsports.com/articles/2009/08/11/tiger_controversy_is_what_golf_needs_96447.html)

Breeze

04-12-2013, 02:55 PM

Watching the Amen Corner feed. That grass looks immaculate even on HD when they zoom in for a close shot of the ball. Just incredible.

I was there on Wednesday...and the grass was so green and even that it looked like that cheap green indoor/outdoor grass rug...

The open walkways between holes were better maintained than any golf course I've ever played and I've played Copperhead, Bay Hill, Harbour Town, and more...

KWhit

04-12-2013, 03:08 PM

I was there on Wednesday...and the grass was so green and even that it looked like that cheap green indoor/outdoor grass rug...

The open walkways between holes were better maintained than any golf course I've ever played and I've played Copperhead, Bay Hill, Harbour Town, and more...

I was there Wednesday too.

And I'll be back there tomorrow. Can't wait!

Young Drachma

04-12-2013, 03:29 PM

I sure hope that this was such a clearly over-the-top situation that there's no way on Earth the penalty could have been avoided, otherwise it sure could look like somebody took issue with a 14-year old not only making the field but making the cut as well.

They're saying they warned him three times beforehand. Seems to me that in any case, they were singling him out and the particular official is a dick.

2013 Masters -- Tianlang Guan shoots 75 after penalty for slow play - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/golf/masters13/story/_/id/9164772/2013-masters-tianlang-guan-shoots-75-penalty-slow-play)

Matteo Manassero, who was keeping Guan's card in the group, was told by officials to write down a 5, even though Guan had scored a 4 on the hole

"I think it's the biggest thing he needs to be careful about, because I think he's ready. When the caddie pulls the club for him, I think he's ready," Manassero said. "But he just sometimes ... takes a little too long, he just asks questions [of his caddie] that I think he knows [the answers to], as well, but just to be sure, just to be clear in his mind.

"And so I think that's an important thing, and John Paramor was saying that, as well. We all feel sorry, but this is the way professional golf goes."

Guan, the youngest player at any major in 148 years, wasn't even born the last time a penalty was issued for slow play, against Glen Day at the 1995 Honda Classic.

Paramor was involved in a controversial slow-play issue at the 2008 WGC-Bridgestone Invitational, where he gave Padraig Harrington a warning for slow play while Harrington was involved in a tense match against Tiger Woods; Woods later criticized Paramor for the warning. Woods went on to win the tournament.

Paramor also issued slow-play warnings to Ross Fisher during the 2009 Open Championship. Despite repeated violations of the timing rules, he did not assess stroke penalties to Fisher.

Young Drachma

04-12-2013, 03:33 PM

Kid's on the projected cut line right now at +4. If nothing else, he's assured of being the low amateur, claimed that by 4 strokes. Tiger meanwhile is not joking around, shooting -3 on the day so far, just one back of the lead.

Young Drachma

04-12-2013, 03:41 PM

With how Tiger's playing, it's not likely the cut is staying at +4 anyway.

Breeze

04-12-2013, 03:58 PM

With how Tiger's playing, it's not likely the cut is staying at +4 anyway.

+4 is still tied for 54th...and with top 50 and ties...even if Woods posts a -7 or better, the players at +4 will be ok...

now if a couple of guys like Simpson, Hanson, McDowell or Watson get a couple birdies and get their score down to +3 or better, then +4 will be in trouble...

Young Drachma

04-12-2013, 04:04 PM

+4 is still tied for 54th...and with top 50 and ties...even if Woods posts a -7 or better, the players at +4 will be ok...

now if a couple of guys like Simpson, Hanson, McDowell or Watson get a couple birdies and get their score down to +3 or better, then +4 will be in trouble...

Aah...not too many red numbers on the board, so looks decent. Crazy though. 14 years old and making the cut at your first major. Love it.

Matthean

04-12-2013, 04:32 PM

And CBS has to be quietly saying "Thank God" as Tiger moves towards that lead as well.

cartman

04-12-2013, 05:41 PM

That was a brutal break for Tiger, hitting the pin and having the ball bounce into the water.

kingfc22

04-12-2013, 06:23 PM

That was a brutal break for Tiger, hitting the pin and having the ball bounce into the water.

Even more impressive that his next shot was nearly identical.

Young Drachma

04-12-2013, 06:24 PM

Ugh rough three-putt to end and he comes way back to earth on the back 9.

Young Drachma

04-12-2013, 06:24 PM

Jason Day making me glad I picked him for that ESPN thing.

Ryan S

04-13-2013, 06:51 AM

It looks like they have found a way to stop people talking about the Guan's penalty.

BBC Sport - Masters 2013: Tiger Woods could be disqualified (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/golf/22134938)

Ryan S

04-13-2013, 06:58 AM

Reading up on it, it looks like Tiger misinterpreted the rules, and made the mistake of admitting it in an interview.

From Yahoo:

In this case, the rule in question is parts a. and b. of the USGA's 26.1, "Relief For Ball In Water Hazard."

a. Proceed under the stroke and distance provision of Rule 27-1 by playing a ball as nearly as possible at the spot from which the original ball was last played (see Rule 20-5)

b. Drop a ball behind the water hazard, keeping the point at which the original ball last crossed the margin of the water hazard directly between the hole and the spot on which the ball is dropped, with no limit to how far behind the water hazard the ball may be dropped

In other words, he could have played from the drop zone, no problem. Or he could have played the ball where he hit the original shot. Or he could have dropped the ball anywhere in a line from the flag to where the ball "last crossed the margin of the water" - i.e., where it rolled into the water - stretching from the edge of the water to as far back as he wished.

In short, he appeared to combine a. and b., which you cannot do. Willfully moving two yards away is not "as close as possible," and Woods did not definitively appear to be in a direct line between the pin and the spot where the original shot finally hit the water. The penalty for an improper drop is two strokes. But since Woods already signed his scorecard, which would then be an incorrect one, he would be disqualified from the tournament.

Ryan S

04-13-2013, 08:47 AM

I am not sure why we are still waiting for an announcement from the Masters.

If he played from the wrong position, there is no option but to disqualify under USGA rules, and unfortunately for Tiger, he appears to have admitted the error.

After what could be regarded as a harsh penalty on Guan yesterday, it would look very unfair if they ignored the rulebook for a golfer just because he is the biggest draw in the field.

The length of time it has taken for a decision makes me think that they are going to come up with something different for Tiger.

Ryan S

04-13-2013, 08:53 AM

Two stroke penalty? Don't get me wrong, I prefer the idea of a harsh stroke penalty rather than disqualification, but was this really in the USGA rulebook before this morning?

duckman

04-13-2013, 09:00 AM

It's not an USGA event. It's an invitational golf tournament. They put the rule in a couple years ago because they disqualified a player who was going to win the tournament.

Ryan S

04-13-2013, 09:04 AM

This looks bad for the tournament organisers. I think that the original rule change was made to stop people from being disqualified after viewers at home saw things in super slow motion replays.

In this case, Tiger clearly knew what he was doing and admitted to it, though he may not have known it was against the rules.

Rule 6.6d

d. Wrong Score for Hole
The competitor is responsible for the correctness of the score recorded for each hole on his score card. If he returns a score for any hole lower than actually taken, he is disqualified. If he returns a score for any hole higher than actually taken, the score as returned stands.

Note 1: The Committee is responsible for the addition of scores and application of the handicap recorded on the score card – see Rule 33-5.

Rule 33.5

A penalty of disqualification may in exceptional individual cases be waived, modified or imposed if the Committee considers such action warranted.
Any penalty less than disqualification must not be waived or modified.

If a Committee considers that a player is guilty of a serious breach of etiquette, it may impose a penalty of disqualification under this Rule.

Ryan S

04-13-2013, 09:06 AM

It's not an USGA event. It's an invitational golf tournament. They put the rule in a couple years ago because they disqualified a player who was going to win the tournament.

It's not a USGA event, but they use the USGA rulebook.

Matthean

04-13-2013, 09:50 AM

He stays.

2013 Masters -- Tiger penalized 2 strokes for ball drop on 15 - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/golf/masters13/story/_/id/9167230/2013-masters-tiger-penalized-2-strokes-ball-drop-15)

miked

04-13-2013, 10:11 AM

This whole sign the scorecard thing may be the gayest part of golf. How can you DQ somebody for signing a scorecard incorrectly if the player doesn't know about the penalty until after it's over. It's 2013 and this was the 15th hole. Why can't somebody from the tournament come over a hole or two later and say, hey, that was an improper drop and you are penalized 2 strokes. I mean, every other sport there are scorekeepers, scorecards, etc. Why is golf so insistent that the player sign his scorecard to make it "official" or something.

Thomkal

04-13-2013, 10:24 AM

Reading the ESPN link about this, I don't know what to think-The committee saw the video of the rule breaking while he was still on the course and ruled it wasn't a violation. Then after Tiger mentioned it in interviews after the round was over, they went back and looked at it again and said it breached a rule.

I don't know much about the rules of golf, but these guys do-from what I've seen from the replays and the explanations given, it was a clear violation of the rule. How could they not see that the first time they saw the video?

Also I'd like to see the official wording on this High Definition TV rule. Does it cover all the times people call in after seeing a rules infraction?-even if it has nothing to do with having a High Def TV, or does it cover just things a player normally would not see-like a ball oscillating on the green?

I think its finally time that the rules official with each group take a more active role in making sure players are playing by the rules. You would have thought they would have learned their lesson after Dustin Johnson's "Bunkergate" a couple years ago, but clearly they haven't. Tiger, even as knowledgeable about the rules as he appears to be, was clearly shaken by the bad luck of what had just happened on the previous shot. A rules official should have gone up to him, made sure he correctly knew his options and made sure the drop was done correctly. Yes it might cause problems with pace of play, but at least the integrity of the game would remain solid.