NFL Week 12

[Cringer]

Some interesting games this week and I am happy. I haven't been home to enjoy my Sunday ticket for weeks and wasn't expecting to be home to enjoy it this week.

Houston at Cleveland is my favorite game I think. Houston is looking a little more alive then they did a couple weeks ago.

Washington/Tampa Bay and New Orleans/Carolina(no Vinny today) has some interest to me.

And the day finishes up with New England blowing out another team on SNF.

[Cringer]

Houston goes for it on 4th and 2 on their first drive. The pass down field a little is overthrown and it is a no go. A little off that ball and Houston is down inside the Brown's 20.

[Cringer]

Browns have throwback uni's today? They have white stripes on their helmets with the player numbers on the sides.

[larrymcg421]

Pats are up 21-0 eventhough the game doesnt start until 8pm.

Lots of fans crying about fairness, but Pats fans defend team by saying, "This is the NFL. You either show up to play 7 hours early, or you get embarassed."

[Cringer]

Took almost the whole first quarter before someone scored in Cleveland, I am surprised. Houston up 7-0 on a TD pass.

[Jas_lov]

Most of the games today are irrelevant. The only game that matters is Packers-Cowboys on Thursday for #1 seed in the NFC. The Packers will have to win in Dallas at some point so it might as well be Thursday and not January as the Cowboys will have a tough time in Lambeau in January. Patriots-Colts, Packers-Cowboys in January is all that matters now.

[k0ruptr]

David Carr needs to turn up the accuracy sliders, he's 0/5 so far.

[Atocep]

Would it be possible to put together a group of less interesting early games?

[Eaglesfan27]

Would it be possible to put together a group of less interesting early games?

I was just thinking that. I'm flipping through games on Sunday Ticket and all of them are relatively boring right now.

[k0ruptr]

kinda fun watching Minnesota dismantle the giants so far :D

[Jas_lov]

I'm so glad I decided to start Eli today. God he sucks. Facing the worst passing defense in the league who gave up over 300 yards to Culpepper! 80 yards and 2 picks. The Seahawks are getting trounced by Gus Frerotte and the Rams! LOL!

[Cringer]

Finally home to watch Sundat Ticket and it seems my TV has died. Shit.

[Thomkal]

well as a Cardinals fan, I can heartily cheer on the Rams today right?

[Rizon]

This just in: The Dolphins are not losing.

[k0ruptr]

Thank you Chad Johnson for showing up this week!

[RendeR]

Figures, the Bengals get so far down they have little or no chance and THEN they show up and play well.

35-6 Bengals beating the shit outta the Oilers in the 4th.

[RendeR]

This just in: The Dolphins are not losing.


But they're not playing......OOOohhhhhhh =)

[k0ruptr]

Eli is on FIRE!

[JeeberD]

Dear god, the Giants are horrible.

[Jas_lov]

Finally home to watch Sundat Ticket and it seems my TV has died. Shit.

You ain't missing much. Except for Eli's 3rd pick which went for a TD the other way! What a joke.

[larrymcg421]

This just in: The Dolphins are not losing.

They haven't fired Cam yet, so they're automatically starting out in at least a 14 point hole.

[RendeR]

What happened to the supposedly powerful running game In Tennessee? The BENGALS defense has held them to 45 total rushing yards thus far.

[JeeberD]

LOL.

This is just ridiculous.

[Jas_lov]

LOL LOL! Eli throws another pick-6!

[k0ruptr]

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[k0ruptr]

dola, I really hope to see P & E in NFLWIP this week, hahahaha

[RendeR]

Man am I glad I took the Vikings this week.

[RendeR]

WOW, Bengals hold on 4th and goal from the 1 yard line to kkeep the Oilers out of the end zone!! still 35-6 with 8 to play.

[Atocep]

WOW, Bengals hold on 4th and goal from the 1 yard line to kkeep the Oilers out of the end zone!! still 35-6 with 8 to play.

Warren Moon couldn't get the ball in from the 1?

[JeeberD]

Moon never has been much of a runner...

[larrymcg421]

Vikings: 12 First Downs, 218 total yards, 41 points.

[RendeR]

Actually they ran it 3 times from the 5 and failed to punch it through then Moon threw a total duck that wasn't even close.

[RendeR]

How the hell did we lose to Buffalo? This Bills team is terrible.

[RendeR]

Glad I put Palmer back in my fantasy lineup this week too:

32 of 38 for 283yds 3 TD and 1 int

[Jas_lov]

well as a Cardinals fan, I can heartily cheer on the Rams today right?

Frerotte is marching the Rams down for the winning score!

[Jas_lov]

1st and Goal at the 5!

[Thomkal]

Frerotte is marching the Rams down for the winning score!

Go Gus!

[Dutch]

Ugh, bring back Trent Dilfer. The Bucs need 6 turnovers (including a game winning INT in the endzone) to beat the Redskins...

[Jas_lov]

3rd and Goal! Frerotte missed a wide open TD to Bruce on 1st down.

[Jas_lov]

4th and Goal from the 1!

[MikeVic]

Shahahahahaha.

[Jas_lov]

Frerotte fumbles the snap and it's over! Rams lose!

[Thomkal]

Gus you can go now...

[kingfc22]

Ugh, bring back Trent Dilfer.

You can have him. Take Alex Smith while you are at it.

[RendeR]

So am I correct that with Buffalo getting humiliated in jacksonville, if New England Wins tonight they win the East with 5 games remaining?

[Raiders Army]

go raidas

[RendeR]

go raidas


Damn Raiders are the only smudge on my pickum list this week. I've won every game but that so far.

[MikeVic]

So am I correct that with Buffalo getting humiliated in jacksonville, if New England Wins tonight they win the East with 5 games remaining?

I think a commentator said they already clinched the division with the Buffalo loss.

[Jas_lov]

So am I correct that with Buffalo getting humiliated in jacksonville, if New England Wins tonight they win the East with 5 games remaining?

With the Buffalo loss, New England has clinched the AFC East regardless of tonight's outcome.

[henry296]

So am I correct that with Buffalo getting humiliated in jacksonville, if New England Wins tonight they win the East with 5 games remaining?

already clinched, even if they lose.

[Thomkal]

go Cards!

[RendeR]

How resoundingly sad. Nothing worse than filling the schedule with worthless games for a 1/3 of the season. (By a playoff team, I understand that the suck ass teams do this and more on a regular basis)

[Atocep]

I would estimate the bears have had 4 or 5 interceptions this year on plays that Bernard Berrian either quit on a route, ran the wrong route, or didn't fight for a ball that was over his head.

[Neuqua]

The Broncos just ran what looked like a college option play and scored, ouch.

[kingfc22]

2 TD's in one game. 17 points in a single half. Somebody please pinch me.

[Emiliano]

2 TD's in one game. 17 points in a single half. Somebody please pinch me.

Tell me about it. After the first Cards TD, I was just about to turn the TV off. But the offense is actually playing today, which is a good thing, isn't it?

BTW, Darrell Jackson has to go. Please, please, cut him at halftime.

[TroyF]

The Broncos just ran what looked like a college option play and scored, ouch.

Second time they've ran the play in the game and fourth time this year. In the Buffalo game earlier in the year the Broncos ran the play on their own two yard line. Cutler pitched it and Henry ran for about 35 yards.

Today Cutler had a six or seven yard run with it. Then he pitched it the next time and the back ran for a TD. With the way the Broncos offense is looking, they may need to run more option today.

[Jas_lov]

The Broncos run a screen pass for 65 yards. Bears suck!

[JeeberD]

Devin freakin' Hester strikes again.

[Cringer]

Hester just rocks, even for a Bear.

[Jas_lov]

Don't kick to him! When will these idiots learn?

[Neuqua]

Broncos just got Hester'ed.

I feel so spoiled being able to watch him every week. Everyone else's return game looks like it is in slow motion.

[Neuqua]

Damnit, Rex.

[Neuqua]

Hester does it again.

Wow. Just wow.

[Eaglesfan27]

Unbelievable. Why do teams ever kick to Hester much less after he already had returned 1 for a TD?

[JeeberD]

Are you kidding me?!?

[hoopsguy]

How close is he to the career record for returns at this point? One back? In his second season???????!!!?!?!?!!?!?!!?

[k0ruptr]

I'm not sure whats more impressive, Hester with 2 returns for tds, or Manning throwing 3 tds to the wrong team.

[JeeberD]

Geez, this game has gotten crazy all of a sudden...

[Galaxy]

What a game.

[st.cronin]

DON'T KICK IT TO HESTER!

[Neuqua]

Just direct snap it to Hester and let's see what he does. Not like our offense is capable of putting a drive together anyway.

[Galaxy]

Talk about focus.

[tucker rocky]

Amazing catch there by Broncos receiver.

[Abe Sargent]

Could any team do less with Chicago's amazing special teams play?

[TroyF]

Broncos doing their damndest to turn this game into a loss.

[SirFozzie]

Come on Cardinals.. in OT with the 49ers...

[Jas_lov]

Ha! I finally sit Frank Gore on the bench for lack of production and he has his biggest game of the year. Go figure. Looks like Rex will have plenty of time to lead a comeback! Kick it to Hester!

[Jas_lov]

4th down and goal! Will Rex fumble the game away like Gus?

[Jas_lov]

TD! It will be reviewed!

[Neuqua]

Wow, was it or wasn't it. I can't even decide.

Go bears.

[SirFozzie]

Huge play by the Cardinals.

[Neuqua]

Berrian has cost us a lot of plays this season but that catch was honestly a beauty. It should not be overturned.

[Raiders Army]

come on pass to Boldin. I need 4 points.

[Thomkal]

Huge play by the Cardinals.

Not showing that game here, what happened?

[Jas_lov]

Play stands! Tie game!

[SirFozzie]

Cardinals accidentally ice their own kicker with a delay of game penalty. (first kick didn't count because the Cardinals didn't get the snap off on time)

AND HE MISSED THE SECOND ONE!

[k0ruptr]

lol

[Thomkal]

sigh

[k0ruptr]

less then 6 minutes left in OT, maybe we will see a tie!

[SirFozzie]

Niners win on a fumble recovery TD..

Are you kidding me?

[Rizon]

Niners win on a fumble recovery TD..

Are you kidding me?

Ugly game by two really bad teams.

[Thomkal]

Just saw the highlight of the end of the Cards game. Unbelievable. They didn't deserve to win after that FG fiasco

[Neuqua]

Bears cannot squander this chance, please. please.

[Neuqua]

We certainly did not deserve that one but I'll take it!

[Jas_lov]

Bears get lucky again and they still have slim playoff hopes.

[Buccaneer]

I was following the Cards game and that was a painful loss. You know I love Kurt but he needs to hang on to the damn ball if he's getting sacked. I blame the FG kicker.

Also nice to see the Bolts with a small cushion at the top of the AFC West.

[JeeberD]

You know I love Kurt but he needs to hang on to the damn ball if he's getting sacked.


It was overtime. A safety would have lost the game for them anyways. The only difference is that they lost by six instead of two...

[Jas_lov]

Have the Patriots scored yet? This is going to be a slaughter.

[Eaglesfan27]

Have the Patriots scored yet? This is going to be a slaughter.

I have a feeling I'm only going to be able to tolerate watching this game for a quarter :(

[Jas_lov]

Yep. Patriots score and the offense hasn't even taken the field yet! LOL!

[Eaglesfan27]

Or maybe only a half of the first quarter :(

[JeeberD]

I have a feeling I'm only going to be able to tolerate watching this game for a quarter :(

True, unless Reid puts Kolb in. If KK plays, then the Eagles will pull off the miraculous upset!

They better do it fast before Feeley puts them in too big of a hole, though.

[Rizon]

Final Score:

Pats 55, Eagles 10

[k0ruptr]

Final Score:

Pats 55, Eagles 10

you really think the eagles will score 10?

[st.cronin]

I think the Eagles have a clever plan to keep the Pats offense off the field.

[Jas_lov]

Flip over to Dexter in a half hour. This game will be 21-0 by then.

[Atocep]

Jerks are already running up the score.

7-0 Time to put the backups in!

[k0ruptr]

I think the Eagles have a clever plan to keep the Pats offense off the field.

golden!

[Eaglesfan27]

Flip over to Dexter in a half hour. This game will be 21-0 by then.

I would but my wife is hanging out with her sister. I'll have to wait until she gets home, but I'm looking forward to watching the episode later tonight.

[Jas_lov]

Go for it!

[Jas_lov]

They just marched right down the field! Maybe it won't be a complete slaughter.

[Eaglesfan27]

WOOT!! Maybe Feeley can play well enough that we can trade him back to the Dolphins for another 2nd round pick.

[k0ruptr]

GO EAGLES , i hope they upset em.

[k0ruptr]

wait, NO im going against westbrook in fantasy land. fuck.

[Jas_lov]

BOOM! Down goes Brady!

[k0ruptr]

what happened? not watching.

[DaddyTorgo]

what happened? not watching.

just a sack

[k0ruptr]

well damn dont get all excited then, here I was thinkin the pats were gonna lose a couple games. lol

[Eaglesfan27]

well damn dont get all excited then, here I was thinkin the pats were gonna lose a couple games. lol

It was a fairly hard hit. Of course, Brady shook it off and just led the Patriots on an opening drive that ended in a TD. Oh well, at least the Eagles aren't being slaughtered, yet.

[k0ruptr]

It was a fairly hard hit. Of course, Brady shook it off and just led the Patriots on an opening drive that ended in a TD. Oh well, at least the Eagles aren't being slaughtered, yet.

ahh ok.

[jeff061]

Pats having some coverage issues.

[Eaglesfan27]

YES! What a catch!

[SirFozzie]

Good Coverage there, better throw.. best catch.

this is gonna be a shootout and a good game I think.

[k0ruptr]

WOW. Go Eagles!

[MJ4H]

haha nice onside.

[Eaglesfan27]

WOOT!!! What a call.

[Jas_lov]

Brilliant!

[SirFozzie]

Well now, that's a good way to keep the Pats off the field...

[MJ4H]

take notes jayhawks

[k0ruptr]

haha. fantastic!

[CU Tiger]

huervas grandes

[sabotai]

So the Pats are just toying with the Eagles, right? Like how a cat will totally fuck with a mouse for awhile before tearing it to shreds?

[SirFozzie]

the Iggles aren't a bad team.. this could be a shootout, especially if they can throw deep on the Pats.

[Jas_lov]

Halfway through the 2nd quarter and Brady hasn't thrown a TD yet.

[SirFozzie]

Feeley has really hung in there. If this was McNabb at QB, he would be reenacting the super bowl thanks to the uncontested SHOTS that the Pats have been taking.

[Jas_lov]

TD Eagles!

[Eaglesfan27]

Feeley to Lewis again!!!

[Huckleberry]

When did AJ Feeley get good?

Correction.

When did AJ Feeley get great?

Since that Samuel INT TD return he has been phenomenal. Best game by a QB I've seen this year. Brady's great games and Manning's great games are with nobody pressuring them. Feeley has delivered great pass after great pass with guys bearing down on him.

Just a magnificent first half performance.

[Jas_lov]

No booth review? What a joke!

[Crapshoot]

This is actually a good game. I don't know how to react to that.

[Eaglesfan27]

That was a bad call by the officials and worse that they didn't review it. He's clearly out of bounds.

[SirFozzie]

And that was a good catch, two feet down before the knee was down, 24-21 Pats at halftime. Madden is drunk..

[johnnyshaka]

No booth review? What a joke!

No shit...that's fucking terrible!!

[SirFozzie]

That was a bad call by the officials and worse that they didn't review it. He's clearly out of bounds.

Wha?

Catch, one foot down, other foot hits before the knee..

[Huckleberry]

And that was a good catch, two feet down before the knee was down, 24-21 Pats at halftime. Madden is drunk..



He lost control of the ball when his elbow hit the ground. Should have been reviewed.

[sabotai]

Wow, it took them about a dozen looks at that to finally see that the foot hit before the knee did, making it a completed pass. These guys get more senile with every game...

[jeff061]

Why? Because Madden said so? It was clearly a good catch, review's a waste of time.

[Eaglesfan27]

And that was a good catch, two feet down before the knee was down, 24-21 Pats at halftime. Madden is drunk..

He didn't have the foot down when he actually obtained possession. That foot ended up being a knee out of bounds once he actually hauled it in.

[Jas_lov]

Wha?

Catch, one foot down, other foot hits before the knee..

You still look at it though! It was certainly close enough to warrant a booth review.

[Neuqua]

Let the conspiracy begin!

[johnnyshaka]

Wonder why Reid wouldn't just burn a timeout to give the booth guys the chance to have another look??

[k0ruptr]

please Randy catch a TD in the 2nd half.

[jeff061]

He didn't have the foot down when he actually obtained possession. That foot ended up being a knee out of bounds once he actually hauled it in.

His ankle/foot dragged prior to knee coming down.

[Chief Rum]

Not to take attention away from the Pats actually having to try in the second half of a game, but am I reading correctly that the Giants may be the first team ever to consider playing a player back on offense?

[Eaglesfan27]

His ankle/foot dragged prior to knee coming down.

At the very least, it was close enough that it should have been reviewed.

[Neuqua]

I'm at odds. It would be nice to see the Patriots lose but my fantasy football season is based on Westbrook not getting another 4.5 points.

[jeff061]

And that's why fantasy football players drive me crazy :D.

[Chief Rum]

And that's why fantasy football players drive me crazy :D.

I'm lucky. I have Westbrook and need the points in my league with him AND I want the Eagles to beat the Pats. So no conflict of interest here.

[SirFozzie]

You know, Olbermann is very funny at times :)

[Galaril]

At the very least, it was close enough that it should have been reviewed.

Feet were in but it didn't look like that he had possession when he went out.

[SirFozzie]

Any other coach calls that play on 3rd and long, they'd be derided for calling a giveup play.. for the Pats, it's great (because it works)

[SirFozzie]

wow. That's a pure reputation pass interference call.

And the call takes points off the board.

[Galaril]

wow. That's a pure reputation pass interference call.

Yeah that was the hint of physical contact like a girl I dated once in high school:)

[jeff061]

Funny thing is he never gets called when he actually does interfere.

[Eaglesfan27]

Feeley to Brown! I never thought this game would be close late in the 3rd, much less the Eagles would be ahead :)

[Raiders Army]

I'd bench McNabb permanently. Philly really needs a clutch QB.

[Dr. Sak]

Feely throws a TD to a guy that he was traded for...

[Jas_lov]

Those idiots had them stopped and they blew it! Patriots will make them pay.

[k0ruptr]

im thinkin randy.

[k0ruptr]

dola, although it is kinda funny to see the pats droppin so many passes, whats goin on?

[Eaglesfan27]

dola, although it is kinda funny to see the pats droppin so many passes, whats goin on?

The Eagles have been hitting hard. I think it is having an effect.

[SirFozzie]

The Pats aren't playing like they deserve to win.. there's been like 6-8 drops so far tonight.

[k0ruptr]

Wasn't the spread for this game like the highest nfl spread in 10 years or something?

[Jas_lov]

Stopped them again. How will the Eagles blow it this time?

[Eaglesfan27]

That was really nice coverage by Gaither. He's impressed me with his improvement this year.

[k0ruptr]

Is Welker a really great NFL reciever or a product of Tom Brady

[Jas_lov]

They held!

[Eaglesfan27]

YES! Love the aggressive rush that they have been using today.

[Celeval]

So if the Patriots can't pull this one out - does it support Moss for MVP (take him away, the Pats lose), or Brady for MVP (Eagles were able to take Moss away to begin with)?

[johnnyshaka]

Very nice...great job by the Eagles' D.

[johnnyshaka]

Is Welker a really great NFL reciever or a product of Tom Brady

Put up similar numbers in a crappy Dolphins' offense last season...I'd say he's legit at what he does...play the slot and run after the catch.

[Jas_lov]

So if the Patriots can't pull this one out - does it support Moss for MVP (take him away, the Pats lose), or Brady for MVP (Eagles were able to take Moss away to begin with)?

It supports Favre for MVP.

[Huckleberry]

It supports the New England OL for MVP.

Brady and Moss don't have the time to do their thing. Philadelphia is outnumbering their OL in many cases so it's all on Brady and the WRs. They're not performing. The Patriot OL is dominant to the point that you have to send 6 or more to get pressure.

[TazFTW]

Rodney Harrison just knocked out his teammate.

[SirFozzie]

This is how you beat the Pats. Be aggressive with receivers over the middle, accurate passes, and get pressure on Brady.

[k0ruptr]

Put up similar numbers in a crappy Dolphins' offense last season...I'd say he's legit at what he does...play the slot and run after the catch.

How long is Welkers contract for?

[k0ruptr]

dola, I think that this is even more impressive that the Eagles best player (westbrook) isn't having a good game at all.

[Cringer]

So if the Patriots can't pull this one out - does it support Moss for MVP (take him away, the Pats lose), or Brady for MVP (Eagles were able to take Moss away to begin with)?

I don't think Moss has much of a chance for MVP in any case. Brady wins it hands down IMO, right now. If he doesn't win it then it is Favre with the "wow, look what the old man is doing" vote taking him a long way.

[k0ruptr]

I don't think Moss has much of a chance for MVP in any case. Brady wins it hands down IMO, right now. If he doesn't win it then it is Favre with the "wow, look what the old man is doing" vote taking him a long way.

Agreed.

[johnnyshaka]

How long is Welkers contract for?

Signed a 5 year deal this past March.

[k0ruptr]

Signed a 5 year deal this past March.

wow, good for him.

[Jas_lov]

Pats take the lead!

[Radii]

I don't think Moss has much of a chance for MVP in any case. Brady wins it hands down IMO, right now. If he doesn't win it then it is Favre with the "wow, look what the old man is doing" vote taking him a long way.


I'm pretty sure Brady has to either get hurt and miss the rest of the season, or throw 0 TD/2 INT every game the rest of the year to not win the MVP.

[SirFozzie]

Pats should be up by 6-10 right now (the Moss "pass interference" call pisses me off, but they still had a chance at points from scrimmage and then the kick)..

I'm not sure about the Pats stopping Feely's passing, mind you though.

[k0ruptr]

Randy needs to catch a td. hope the eagles score next possesion.

[SirFozzie]

wow they missed a hold there

[Cringer]

I'm pretty sure Brady has to either get hurt and miss the rest of the season, or throw 0 TD/2 INT every game the rest of the year to not win the MVP.

Yeah, that is pretty much what I meant. The Favre part was put in there to say who I think would win if the former happened. I am pretty sure the later is not going to happen for Brady.

[Jas_lov]

Already at midfield!

[Huckleberry]

(the Moss "pass interference" call pisses me off, but they still had a chance at points from scrimmage and then the kick)..

I hope what pissed you off was the blatant pushoff.

[SirFozzie]

I hope what pissed you off was the blatant pushoff.


Um.. no. there was no pushoff on the one he was call on. except maybe in your recollection.. even everyone here said there was no such thing

[Jas_lov]

INT!

[Eaglesfan27]

Sheesh - terrible decision, terrible throw.

[SirFozzie]

And there's a huge INT.

[k0ruptr]

ouch.

[Logan]

THAT'S why Feeley isn't a starter.

[Huckleberry]

Not sure why what everyone here said should matter. He blatantly pushed off. It's the reason the DB moved 2 yards in the other direction right before the catch.

Not my fault that Madden and Michaels were as blind on that one as they were on Gaffney's feet. The first replay of the Moss play showed the pushoff. None of the later ones showed it.

[Radii]

Sheesh - terrible decision, terrible throw.

:(

[Jas_lov]

A stop here is essential!

[st.cronin]

It was a good idea to pay Samuel.

[Jas_lov]

That should be it.

[Huckleberry]

Wow. Terrible defensive playcall.

Leave a guy completely uncovered against Brady on a crucial third down. Absurd.

[Eaglesfan27]

Ball game. The Eagles should have been working it underneath to eat up the clock which is why I thought it was a terrible decision to try that throw and then he overthrew his receiver which caused the pick. Oh well, at least it was a much more entertaining game than I expected although it would have been great for the Eagles to have been the team to ruin the undefeated season.

[k0ruptr]

not completely over, but yea pretty much.

[DaddyTorgo]

sweet.

GG Iggles though! Props!

[k0ruptr]

dola, anyone who was smart enough to bet against that enormous spread made some good money tonite i hope

[JeeberD]

Toldja they should have had Kolb in there... :( ;)

[Eaglesfan27]

That was predictable :(

[SirFozzie]

ball game :)

[johnnyshaka]

Too bad...but the Eagles gave the Pats all they could handle. Good game.

[jeff061]

Yeah, great game by the Eagles.

Hopefully the Pats patch up all the weaknesses the Eagles figured out.

[Rizon]

THAT'S why Feeley isn't a starter.

(Snicker)

Sincerely,

Miami Fans

[Rizon]

Did anyone else get the impression the Pats didn't even try in this game? It was like they were toying with the Eagles up until they put them away late in the 4th.

[Rizon]

Did anyone else get the impression the Pats didn't even try in this game? It was like they were toying with the Eagles up until they put them away late in the 4th.

Dola,

Some of the routes Moss ran were as flat as Debra Messing.

[EagleFan]

Did anyone else get the impression the Pats didn't even try in this game? It was like they were toying with the Eagles up until they put them away late in the 4th.

That had to be it, it couldn't be that the Eagles played a very good game... :rolleyes:

[Vinatieri for Prez]

No, I don't think the Pats were not trying. The Eagles played a helluva game. I don't think you toy with someone by letting the other team get to your 30-yard line with a first down only trailing by 3 points late in the fourth quarter. The Pats are not that good. Eagles played well, Pats were a little flat on O and D, but gotta give the Eagles credit for that.

This bodes well for an undefeated regular season at least. Whenever you get one of these runs, there is always that game or two against the lesser opponent when you just come out flat - an off day. When and if you survive those, it wakes you up for future games. That just happened here.

[Chief Rum]

Um.. no. there was no pushoff on the one he was call on. except maybe in your recollection.. even everyone here said there was no such thing

Well, considering how many pushoffs he actually gets away with, I hardly think there's room to complain about this one.

[Dr. Sak]

Foz also likes to forget that the Pats might have gotten a break when the one TD was not reviewed. It looked like a TD, but a review would've been nice. But again Foz has his blinders.

[Dr. Sak]

(Snicker)

Sincerely,

Miami Fans

Your team traded a second round pick for him. (Reggie Brown)..Snickers :p

Sincerely,

Philly Fans

[jeff061]

Foz also likes to forget that the Pats might have gotten a break when the one TD was not reviewed. It looked like a TD, but a review would've been nice. But again Foz has his blinders.

I'm stil not understanding this logic. There was no chance in hell that was going to get overturned. Waste of time.

[Dr. Sak]

I'm stil not understanding this logic. There was no chance in hell that was going to get overturned. Waste of time.

I've seen calls that looked clearer than that overturned before.

[jeff061]

I've seen calls that looked clearer than that overturned before.

Well that would be a horrible incorrect call in this case. And the hypotheticals you refer to must be legendary in their awfulness.

[Dr. Sak]

Well that would be a horrible incorrect call in this case. And the hypotheticals you refer to must be legendary in their awfulness.

I just wanted it reviewed. The initial catch looked skeptical because it appeared his knee hit out of bounds. And you were taking my last comment out of context. I was not saying that I was hoping for a mistake and to get a TD overturned that shouldn't have been. I was stating that there have been calls overturned that looked like they were clear touchdowns (or non-touchdowns) but when looked at again, it was shown that the call should be overturned.

[Alan T]

I think you all are giving bsak a hard time on this. What is so wrong with him saying that close plays (especially ones that matter as much as a touchdown) should be reviewed by the booth? In this situation can anyone not say that it wasn't a close call (one that might or might not be messed up at real time speed)?

I think objectively I would say it was a close call, one I think they got right and was a TD, but that is the exact play that should be reviewed under the current system and I am suprised that it was not.

For the record, I also think that PI call on Moss was Bogus too though.

[Cringer]

Did you just defend bsak?

turns and yells to crowd: GET ANOTHER ROPE!

[Raiders Army]

Did you just defend bsak?

turns and yells to crowd: GET ANOTHER ROPE!

That was great. If I were drinking something, my screen would have been covered in it.

[gstelmack]

Back in town for 2 days after my trip to my parents in Brockton (which, yes, included the 45 minute drive to the stadium to visit the pro shop and pay homage). Got to watch most of the game. Brady was having a bad game (inaccurate throws on lots of normally sure completions), Moss was dropping stuff he wasn't breaking a sweat catching earlier, Welker would have had an even BIGGER game if Brady didn't keep throwing behind him, and could not tell if the defense played soft or if the Eagles figured out something that let them keep getting guys wide open. The Eagles definitely came to play, and I think Reid sent a good message with the early onsides kick. Very glad to see the Patriots escape this one with the win, and even more glad to see them get tested like this late in the season.

[gstelmack]

I think you all are giving bsak a hard time on this. What is so wrong with him saying that close plays (especially ones that matter as much as a touchdown) should be reviewed by the booth? In this situation can anyone not say that it wasn't a close call (one that might or might not be messed up at real time speed)?

I think objectively I would say it was a close call, one I think they got right and was a TD, but that is the exact play that should be reviewed under the current system and I am suprised that it was not.

It was my understanding that the booth DOES review every play inside those 2 minutes. If something looks amiss or they can't tell, they stop play so they can take a closer look. NBC had a pretty obvious angle that showed it was a TD, and they did not need to take a closer look before the teams lined up for the XP. They aren't going to stop play unnecessarily.

And the interference call on Moss was bogus (the defender had a handful of shirt for crying out loud, and he was the one who initiated the contact), but the Pats still should have scored that TD. And Gostkowski should never have missed the chipshot. It was that kind of night for the Pats.

[gstelmack]

Sheesh - terrible decision, terrible throw.

I would actually argue that was an awesome defensive playcall. Everyone lined up, and Sanders then crept up into that open area. Feeley never saw him make the move. He probably SHOULD have seen him when he went to throw, but this was more a misread of a disguised defense. The corner was soft, he probably didn't spend time looking that way to avoid tipping the defense off, and when he did the safety had moved up to take it away and he missed it.

[Kodos]

Eagles fans can be proud. You came close to taking down the Patriots with a 3rd-string caliber quarterback.

[johnnyshaka]

I would actually argue that was an awesome defensive playcall. Everyone lined up, and Sanders then crept up into that open area. Feeley never saw him make the move. He probably SHOULD have seen him when he went to throw, but this was more a misread of a disguised defense. The corner was soft, he probably didn't spend time looking that way to avoid tipping the defense off, and when he did the safety had moved up to take it away and he missed it.

He shouldn't have thrown it...regardless of the defensive playcall. Why leave 4 minutes on the clock and give Brady the chance to comeback? Inside the two-minute warning I wouldn't be as upset with the decision but Feeley needed to be looking to tie the game first and leaving no time on the clock.

[Dr. Sak]

Eagles fans can be proud. You came close to taking down the Patriots with a 3rd-string caliber quarterback.

McNabb didn't play.

I was never one to join the Donovan must go bandwagon, but I can honestly say that if McNabb would've played last night, the Eagles would not have been as close to winning. He is not as accurate as Feeley. A lot of those throws over the middle would've been thrown 100mph either into the ground or over the WR's head.

[molson]

McNabb didn't play.


Funny.

So there doesn't seem to be any talk of a QB controversy in Philly, but I agree, if McNabb played, it would have been a much more comfortable victory for the Pats.

[johnnyshaka]

Funny.

So there doesn't seem to be any talk of a QB controversy in Philly, but I agree, if McNabb played, it would have been a much more comfortable victory for the Pats.

Oh, on the contrary, I think there is a QB controversy and it could be between all three of them, too. Of course Reid is going to deny it 'til his death but you have to think that the Eagles have to be thinking about Feeley and Kolb for next season and trying to move McNabb.

I'm not a McNabb hater, but I think the writing is on the wall...

[Kodos]

The Bears would probably like to have McNabb.

[Butter]

You guys just want McNabb to go because he's black.

[MikeVic]

Ok, so what teams could use McNabb, and would pay him a starter's salary. I think Kodos mentioning the Bears is a good choice. Bills, Dolphins? Ravens, Chiefs, Giants, Vikings, Panthers, Falcons?

[Kodos]

If the Dolphins want a new QB, get one with 1.1.

[rkmsuf]

"And the card has made it to the Commissioner."


"The Miami Dolphins trade the first pick in the NFL draft to the Philadelphia Eagles for AJ Feeley and a 5th round pick".

[larrymcg421]

I wouldn't mind McNabb to the Dolphins, but can't imagine why the hell he would want to come here. I suspect he will be leading the Bears to the Superbowl next season.