I have decided.....this is the NFL Week 15 Thread

[stevew]

Texans vs the Broncos, and at least 80% of the nation won't be seeing it.

Go RosenBrady!!!!

[Honolulu_Blue]

I am in a fantasy football conference finals this week.

I have decided to sit Jon Kitna and start Sage Rosenfelds.

[MikeVic]

So, Aaron Smith is out for the season... nice. :(

[Passacaglia]

Texans vs the Broncos, and at least 80% of the nation won't be seeing it.

Go RosenBrady!!!!

What percent of people do you think would have seen the game if it were on Sunday?

[Travis]

Andre Johnson vs Den secondary or Brandon Marshall vs Hou secondary?

I really, really want to stick with Andre, but if Marshall outdoes him tonight it'll be a very tough start to my game this week. Ah well, should be a fun game to watch and I'm really curious to see how the Houston RB's fare tonight and if anybody starts to make a charge on the job for next year.

[RomaGoth]

So, Aaron Smith is out for the season... nice. :(

That sucks to be sure. Now who goes in for him? Travis Kirschke? Sigh.
:eek:
:(

[Fidatelo]

Bryant Gumbel is sick! Yes!

[stevew]

These Red on Red Texans jerseys are scary in HD. Looks like what would happen if the Cardinals and Falcons uniforms decided to make Love.

[Desmond]

I love these uniforms, looks like old school electric football.

[Buccaneer]

I love how the Texans are rattling Cutler in pressure situations. Second time in a row they rushed on 4th down, this time he threw the ball away.

Go Texans.

By the way, I am decidely not a fan of monochrome uniforms but I have to admit that the Texans' uniforms look pretty good tonight. We rarely have seen that team so I don't even know what they usually wear.

[Rizon]

Seems like Denver doesn't want to win. Jerks are kicking me in the nuts in my pickem league.

[stevew]

Mario Williams is looking pretty damned good. 3 sacks.

[Lathum]

Sage is looking pretty damn good

[Rizon]

You know, I really think Miami would have a chance to beat the Broncos.

[Lathum]

You know, I really think Miami would have a chance to beat the Broncos.

I think the blue turf would confuse them.

[Rizon]

I think the blue turf would confuse them.

Yeah, I shouldn't get my hopes up.

[Crim]

I think the blue turf would confuse them.

gold.

[stevew]

I think the blue turf would confuse them.

lol

[DanGarion]

Well played sir!

[Honolulu_Blue]

I just saw the headline on ESPN that Chris Redman was going to remain the starting QB for the Falcons and he supports Petrino.

This ought to work out very well for the Falcons...

[RomaGoth]

I just saw the headline on ESPN that Chris Redman was going to remain the starting QB for the Falcons and he supports Petrino.

This ought to work out very well for the Falcons...

HaHaHa. Which is worse, him remaining the QB or him supporting Petrino? Even more importantly, who cares????

[Rizon]

Marvin Lewis to Dolphins 2008!!!

[Radii]

Hah, only one post in the NFL thread on the night of a game, given that we have a lot of Cincinnati fans here that surprises me a bit, even with the game on the NFL Network.

[RendeR]

I am refraining from posting on teh grounds that anything I might actually have posted DURING the game would have gotten me banned or at least boxed for a month.

[panerd]

Hah, only one post in the NFL thread on the night of a game, given that we have a lot of Cincinnati fans here that surprises me a bit, even with the game on the NFL Network.

When I saw that Deion and Marshall Faulk were doing the game I really cringed and considered watching without sound. But they didn't end up bothering me that much. A little too much patting themselves on the backs for calling plays, but I like when the color guy(s) actually call people out. And they were saying that Chad and TJ were mailing it in and looked like they wanted to go home, they were saying how 2-11 teams really don't care about winning as much as evaluating personnel (Like the NFL wants their network broadcasting this) and they were very critical of many coaching decisions made in the game. They also gave some explanations that are a lot simpler and more reasonable then the John Madden's of the world try to present. I have to say they did allright.

[damnMikeBrown]

I still hate Deion...he just annoys me...that will never go away. That game though, as a Bengal's fan...wow, we are just a generous team. We give every opposing quarterback the opportunity to have a career day against us. That is true Christmas Spirit, and we've had it all year! What is with all this talk of our thuggery? We are givers, not takers!

Oh, and we are a horrible, horrible, horrible football team.

[molson]

It looks like good old-fashion winter conditions in Foxboro. Snow, Rain, Sleet, Wind (probably mostly rain during the game itself) I sucks I won't get the game in Boise when they're getting it about 20 miles east of here for some reason. Though I can't complain too much - I think it's only the 3rd Pats game I haven't seen live this season despite being 3,000 miles away.

[SirFozzie]

21 seperate players have scored a TD for the Pats. That's sick.

[Scoobz0202]

Nasty winter conditions in the Cleveland game. This is sweet..

[molson]

21 seperate players have scored a TD for the Pats. That's sick.

Ties the NFL record held by '87 Rams and '00 Broncos.

And Troy Brown makes his debut today, so they might have a chance to set a new record.

[SirFozzie]

Clemmons is probably done for the day, he's already heading into the locker room.

[Alan T]

Nice Run by Leon Washington followed by about the most inept series of 4 playcalls by a pro football team in 20 years.

Guess we get to see what a college offense can do against the pats

[Alan T]

Wow, that is some nice football weather in Cleveland :) Nice catch by Jurivicious (or however his name is spelled). :)

[molson]

Wow, that is some nice football weather in Cleveland :) Nice catch by Jurivicious (or however his name is spelled). :)

I can't believe we had a thread there a few weeks ago where half the posters preferred perfect conditions where the "player's talent isn't restricted" or something.

[SirFozzie]

If the Jets don't get some pressure on Brady, this will be a VERY long day for New York fans.

[Alan T]

I can't believe we had a thread there a few weeks ago where half the posters preferred perfect conditions where the "player's talent isn't restricted" or something.

In that thread I was in the minority too. I love weather affecting football games :)

[miami_fan]

History has been made. TB has returned a kickoff for a TD for the first time in their history.

[DaddyTorgo]

Clemmons is probably done for the day, he's already heading into the locker room.

he shall return. BAWAHAHAHA

[MikeVic]

In that thread I was in the minority too. I love weather affecting football games :)

I agree!

[Passacaglia]

I can't believe we had a thread there a few weeks ago where half the posters preferred perfect conditions where the "player's talent isn't restricted" or something.

I wasn't one of the posters on either side in that thread, but I don't think that's really what the argument was about (but I might be thinking of a different thread).

[Alan T]

So what are the reasons why Jets fans wanted Pennington benched? He seems the far superior choice for their QB. I personally would rather have him than anything the Falcons have at QB myself.

[Raiders Army]

Nice, they couldn't find the 40 yd line in the CLE/BUF game.

[MikeVic]

I wasn't one of the posters on either side in that thread, but I don't think that's really what the argument was about (but I might be thinking of a different thread).

I think it started off as the upkeep of a field, and then turned into people saying every team should get FieldTurf to reduce the effect rain, snow, etc. had on the field. And then it kind of got into how the reasoning being that mushy field means players aren't at 100%, and certain fofcers didn't want that.

[Raiders Army]

Going for it on 4th and 2. No way they could make the field goal.

[JetsIn06]

woohoo! blocked punt returned for a TD!

[larrymcg421]

Breaking News

Dolphins Offense Crosses Midfield

[DaddyTorgo]

woohoo! blocked punt returned for a TD!

TURNABOUT IS FAIR PLAY

(well okay...pats take over at the 3, but still)

[Alan T]

I was about to comment that the Jets could steal this one with the weather supposedly getting worse in the second half and it being a close game.. but then the Pats block the Jets punt on the 3 yard line.. so never mind.

[Dutch]

History has been made. TB has returned a kickoff for a TD for the first time in their history.

I wish I could've seen it. That's probably the last dumb stat thingy that has been bugging me about sports and particularly about Tampa Bay football. :)

[Buccaneer]

In that thread I was in the minority too. I love weather affecting football games :)

+1

[Desmond]

So what are the reasons why Jets fans wanted Pennington benched? He seems the far superior choice for their QB. I personally would rather have him than anything the Falcons have at QB myself.

Because I have a better throwing arm than he does.

[Super Ugly]

Because I have a better throwing arm than he does.

Pennington's got a weak arm, yes, but he's just been a scapegoat for Jets fans this season. The offense has stunk just as bad with KC at the helm, who's supposedly got a rocket arm. No blocking, no running game, bad playcalling, terrible defence (although it's gotten better recently).

[DaddyTorgo]

Because I have a better throwing arm than he does.

TBH though...i think he gives the jets the best chance to win. He's more accurate underneath...he doesn't turn the ball over on underneath throws, and he makes better decisions then clemmons. Which is what you need against a belicheck-defense. As long as you tell him not to throw it deep and turn it over.

[Desmond]

Seriously, the guy has zero arm. I thought the same way you guys did until I actually watched game after game of 5 yard routes.

[Buccaneer]

I just saw a couple of highlights from the Cleveland game and almost started fapping. I love seeing extreme snow games.

[Buccaneer]

I just saw something I don't understand. We're getting the Jags/Steelers game and just at the 2nd half kickoff, I see the stands nearly empty?!? I expect that from the fair-weather Atlanta fans but not in Pittsburgh where they have braved the elements many times. What's going on?

[JetsIn06]

Pennington's got a weak arm, yes, but he's just been a scapegoat for Jets fans this season. The offense has stunk just as bad with KC at the helm, who's supposedly got a rocket arm. No blocking, no running game, bad playcalling, terrible defence (although it's gotten better recently).

I truely believe that Pennington could be a winner on the right team. He would be great with the Bears, or the Ravens...a tough defensive team that doesn't need to gun the ball. The Jets don't have that. We don't really have anything. This team lacks an identity, and while I think we are trying to acheive one, we're not there yet, and Pennington just doesn't work with no running game/no defense.

[Fidatelo]

I've always liked Pennington, I think he gets a bit of a raw deal.

[molson]

and Pennington just doesn't work with no running game/no defense.

Which QBs do?

[Honolulu_Blue]

I just saw something I don't understand. We're getting the Jags/Steelers game and just at the 2nd half kickoff, I see the stands nearly empty?!? I expect that from the fair-weather Atlanta fans but not in Pittsburgh where they have braved the elements many times. What's going on?

The stands are pretty much packed. I think folks were just slow getting back from their half-time trips to the concession stands/bathrooms.

[larrymcg421]

Dolphins score a TD to get within 3 at 13-10. Middle of 3rd quarter. Come on guys. Get it done!

[Super Ugly]

I truely believe that Pennington could be a winner on the right team. He would be great with the Bears, or the Ravens...a tough defensive team that doesn't need to gun the ball. The Jets don't have that. We don't really have anything. This team lacks an identity, and while I think we are trying to acheive one, we're not there yet, and Pennington just doesn't work with no running game/no defense.

In a really, really perverse way, I want Pennington to come back next season with a new team and beat the dickens out of the Jets. Just once.

[Neuqua]

Wasn't Pennington considered one of the better QB's in the league before his injury? I thought I vaguely remembered that.

[JetsIn06]

Which QBs do?

Well...no one. What I mean is that right now, the only thing the Jets can do is throw the ball. Their identity right now is a passing offense, and that doesn't work with Pennington. When your always trying to play catchup and you have Pennington as your QB, it doesn't work.

[Celeval]

Jacksonville is looking /very/ good in the snow - after opening up the second half with a 20-play touchdown drive, they then go deep on the next possession for a long touchdown and lead 22-7.`

[JetsIn06]

Wasn't Pennington considered one of the better QB's in the league before his injury? I thought I vaguely remembered that.

In 2002, his first year as a starter, he was awesome.

275 for 399, a 68.9%. 3,120 yards. 22 TD's, 6 INT's. 104.2 QB Rating

Two torn rotator cuff surgeries later, he just isn't that great anymore.

[JetsIn06]

Dola

With that being said, he's still one of my favorite players in the NFL. He's a really tough football player.

[JetsIn06]

"Game is suspended until the snowballs stop being thrown"

[Super Ugly]

Classy.

[molson]

Pennington > All other Jets QBs.

[JetsIn06]

BIG return by Leon Washington.

[Super Ugly]

Gaaargh. McCairens.

[JetsIn06]

posession or no posession??

[Super Ugly]

No possession. I repeat:

Gaaargh. McCairens.

[Super Ugly]

Oh, for the love of christ.

[larrymcg421]

What creative method does Cameron use to screw this one up:

1) Call a timeout he doesn't have?

2) Send Ray Finkle in to hold for Feely.

3) Let an errant pass bounce between his legs, which then trips up Feely on the sidelines.

[JetsIn06]

FUCK

[Galaril]

That was as much a touchdown as the Pats TD against the Ravens. And while I am at it the inetrfernce against Moss interfernce as much as it was offensive interfernce with the push Moss gave with his left hand. Amd thirdly there has been alot of holding by the Pats O-line. All of this tells me the NFL commissioners office has let the officiating crew know it is in the best interest of there careers as officials to make sure the Pats get the calls today.

[gstelmack]

That was as much a touchdown as the Pats TD against the Ravens. And while I am at it the inetrfernce against Moss interfernce as much as it was offensive interfernce with the push Moss gave with his left hand. Amd thirdly there has been alot of holding by the Pats O-line. All of this tells me the NFL commissioners office has let the officiating crew know it is in the best interest of there careers as officials to make sure the Pats get the calls today.

I'm not able to watch the game, but does this mean they finally decided to make it up to them for the Indy game?

[molson]

All of this tells me the NFL commissioners office has let the officiating crew know it is in the best interest of there careers as officials to make sure the Pats get the calls today.

You're a nutjob.

As I said before - does an NFL executive really risk prison time and hope that a part-time officiating crew decides to keep quiet to increase their TV ratings 10% or whatever?

[larrymcg421]

Dolphins trying to find a way to lose this one.

[Super Ugly]

That was as much a touchdown as the Pats TD against the Ravens. And while I am at it the inetrfernce against Moss interfernce as much as it was offensive interfernce with the push Moss gave with his left hand. Amd thirdly there has been alot of holding by the Pats O-line. All of this tells me the NFL commissioners office has let the officiating crew know it is in the best interest of there careers as officials to make sure the Pats get the calls today.

I dunno, maybe I'm watching a diffeent game. As much as I hate the Pats, and as much as I was expecting a whole lot of dirtiness on their part, it seems to have been a pretty clean, decently-officiated game.

[larrymcg421]

All of this tells me the NFL commissioners office has let the officiating crew know it is in the best interest of there careers as officials to make sure the Pats get the calls today.

Is that really all it tells you? Interesting conclusion. I hope you're never on a jury.

[miami_fan]

What happened to Boller?

[Logan]

That was absolutely not a touchdown, and absolutely not nearly as close as Gaffney's catch.

Big smile on BB's face for the handshake.

[henry296]

What happened to Boller?

Concusion on hit by Vonnie Holliday (I think it was Holliday)

[Noop]

So a backup QB with barely any experience drives down the field and ties the game. Wonderful.

[Icy]

This is so fucking incredible, the fins are really really embarrasing to watch.
Btw, i think the Ravens just gave the Fins a chance, with the momentum they were having, i would have gone for the 1st and 1 for TD with those 8 seconds remaining instead of kicking the FG to tie the game.

[larrymcg421]

Cameron is such a bad fucking coach that I almost think he should be investigated for collusion with gambling interests.

[Izulde]

UGH!

[Cringer]

Crap, I have been listening to the Packer game and didn't know what was going on with Miami. GO RAVENS!!

[Noop]

And the defense folds...

[Icy]

I can't underestand the kickoff call by Cam. Two minutes to the end of the game, winning by 3, no timeouts remaining for the Ravens, and instead of a long kickoff, he calls a sky kickoff that goes out of bouds inside the fins half??? WTF was that???

[Greyroofoo]

Hopefully Cam will call another timeout to ice the kicker.

[Icy]

The fins are terrible, no doubt, but Cam has lost a few games by himself with this stupid calls this season.

[Noop]

He missed! Well I guess the offense has another chance to blow the game.

[larrymcg421]

Whew.

[larrymcg421]

The fins are terrible, no doubt, but Cam has lost a few games by himself with this stupid calls this season.

A good coach would have the Fins with 4 wins right now.

[Cringer]

Doh. Ravens blow the chance to win. I really hope the Dolphins screw this gift up.

[Logan]

If I'm a Dolphin fan, I'm much more embarrassed by 0-15-1 than 0-16.

[Noop]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[larrymcg421]

Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[molson]

Without having watched the game, I predict the Ravens will whine about the refs.

Someday, they'll realize that they just really, really suck.

[Izulde]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Noop]

That being said we are celebrating like we won the superbowl. LMAO!

[larrymcg421]

BTW, who the fuck is Greg Camarillo?

[bulletsponge]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[molson]

Great day for the phins - the win, and the team may be up for sale.

[Izulde]

BTW, who the fuck is Greg Camarillo?

That was what popped in my head too.

[larrymcg421]

I was listening to this on the radio. Both the missed FG and the TD were classic Mandich calls.

[Cringer]

That sucks. New England going undefeated isn't as much fun without the Dolphins going winless.

Well, the Packers won so it's still a great day.

[Izulde]

That being said we are celebrating like we won the superbowl. LMAO!

It's a testament to how this season's gone that we're all celebrating a win like it -is- the Super Bowl.

[Icy]

ROFL YES!!!!!!

[Logan]

The last time I saw a celebration like that was when my Pony league baseball team won our last game of the season after dropping our first 11.

[Big Fo]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That being said we are celebrating like we won the superbowl. LMAO!
BTW, who the fuck is Greg Camarillo?
Great day for the phins - the win, and the team may be up for sale.

That about sums it up, awesome stuff :D

Now our season is just really bad instead of infamous, a fantastic day.

[larrymcg421]

The Ravens lost to the two best teams in the NFL and now they've lost to the worst.

[Raiders Army]

Thomas Howard had his 6th INT this year. Nice. He also prevented a TD in the endzone.

[Raiders Army]

Raiders go up by 1 on the Colts!

[Greyroofoo]

Colts up by 7!

[Buccaneer]

It's amazing to think that at Week 4, we (Bolts' fans) were ready to crucify Norv Turner. We still will likely to do so at some point in the near future but it has been a nice turnaround.

[Eaglesfan27]

Unbelievable how many opportunities the Eagles have blown today, yet they remain ahead 10-6 with 4 minutes to go and Dallas is going for it on 4th and 2...

[tucker rocky]

I guess Westbrook didn't want to score.

[Celeval]

Interesting choice by Westbrook. How many people in the midst of fantasy football playoffs are screaming at their televisions right now?

For anyone not getting Dallas - Philly, Westbrook just sat down on the 1-yard line rather than taking an easy touchdown to keep the clock running.

[tucker rocky]

dola,

A dumb move by Westbrook, because the Eagles could very well fumble at the GL.

[Buccaneer]

Normally we would have to put up with the Cowboys contigency spewing all over a gameday thread, so wonder why they're quiet today? Go Eagles.

[tucker rocky]

You have got to be shitting me, the Eagles aren't going to ram it in?!?

[molson]

dola,

A dumb move by Westbrook, because the Eagles could very well fumble at the GL.

It didn't increase their chance to win very much, but all they needed was 3 kneel-downs to win. If Westbrook scores, the Cowboys need a score, an onside kick, and another score. They're definitely better off with #1.

Forgoing a TD to give your team a that little of an edge is a pretty selfless move.

[Cringer]

Woohoo! Thank you Eagles! Packers have a shot at home field still.

[Eaglesfan27]

Wow. It was a boring game, but I'll gladly take that considering I was expecting the Eagles to get blown out.

[Jas_lov]

Cowboys fall! If the atrocious Lions had done their jobs last week, the Packers would be in the drivers seat for #1 seed. I think the Cowboys will lose one of their last 2 games and the Packers will reclaim what is rightfully theirs. Congratulations to the Dolphins for finally winning a game. They deserve it.

[Cringer]

Packers need to win in Chicago next week before home against the Lions. The Bears won't roll over, not a sure thing for the Packers to win out even if the Cowboys lose another one.

[MikeVic]

What's wrong with taking it down there? Dallas had no TOs left right?

[Rizon]

That about sums it up, awesome stuff :D

Now our season is just really bad instead of infamous, a fantastic day.

I'm going to wake up and this will be a dream.

[Jas_lov]

Packers need to win in Chicago next week before home against the Lions. The Bears won't roll over, not a sure thing for the Packers to win out even if the Cowboys lose another one.

You're worried about the free falling Bears? Kyle Orton is the starting QB! Kyle Orton! Just watch as they get eaten alive tomorrow night, and the Packers are much better than the Vikings. Sure it'll be a rivalry game, but you're forgetting one thing. NOBODY BEATS THE PACKERS IN SOLDIER FIELD!!

[Cringer]

You're worried about the free falling Bears? Kyle Orton is the starting QB! Kyle Orton! Just watch as they get eaten alive tomorrow night, and the Packers are much better than the Vikings. Sure it'll be a rivalry game, but you're forgetting one thing. NOBODY BEATS THE PACKERS IN SOLDIER FIELD!!

The same crappy Bears that won in Green Bay, so yes it is something to worry about. I am sure plenty of Ravens fans thought today was a easy win. It's the NFL, not such thing as a sure thing.

[cuervo72]

Interesting choice by Westbrook. How many people in the midst of fantasy football playoffs are screaming at their televisions right now?

For anyone not getting Dallas - Philly, Westbrook just sat down on the 1-yard line rather than taking an easy touchdown to keep the clock running.

I think this was *directly* related to Week 10, where the Eagles had a 1 point lead over the Redskins, the Skins gave the ball up at their own 10 with 2:24 left, and everyone thought the game was over. The next play Westbrook scored a 10 yard TD...which gave the ball back to WAS with 2:18 to go and a chance to still tie.

[miami_fan]

This is so fucking incredible, the fins are really really embarrasing to watch.
Btw, i think the Ravens just gave the Fins a chance, with the momentum they were having, i would have gone for the 1st and 1 for TD with those 8 seconds remaining instead of kicking the FG to tie the game.

I am glad I was not the only one who thought this while watching the game. However, I can't really blame Billick. I don't think any other NFL coach goes for it in that situation either.

BTW, who the fuck is Greg Camarillo?

He will be the next very good receiver for the Patriots in a couple of years. Just like that other white receiver the Dolphins had who wore #83 and was waived by San Diego.

[wade moore]

Ok, that punt was pretty crazy.

[wade moore]

Haha, that was awesome.

[Lathum]

Fuckin Sinorice Moss.

I have seen him do that idiot move about 5 times this year. That retard needs to get his head out of his ass.

[wade moore]

Fuckin Santana Moss.

Fixed.

[wade moore]

Fuck Yeah Santana Moss.

Fixed.

Fixed.

[Lathum]

I would be really happy if someone on the Giants would catch a pass. K. Thx.

[Lathum]

dola- then run in the right direction.

[wade moore]

I'm pretty baffled as to why they seem to have forgotten they have a LB at RB.

[wade moore]

Landry you dumbass.

[DaddyTorgo]

Landry you dumbass.

absolutely frigging moronic

[Lathum]

Great play by Landry.


and the hit was nice also

[Lathum]

this is the slowest game ever.

[wade moore]

It's nice to see the Skins playing well, but I can't help but think this is destined for 8-8, no playoffs, and a mediocre draft pick.

[Lathum]

It's nice to see the Skins playing well, but I can't help but think this is destined for 8-8, no playoffs, and a mediocre draft pick.

they really aren't playing that well. The Giants receivers are stinking the joint up.

[wade moore]

they really aren't playing that well. The Giants receivers are stinking the joint up.

Somewhat fair, but Portis is having a great game along with the OLine..

Plus, several of those drops have been because of good hits by Skins receivers.

[EagleFan]

dola,

A dumb move by Westbrook, because the Eagles could very well fumble at the GL.

A great move. It put the stamp on the win. It left them with 3 kneel downs and getting on the plane to go home. Why even risk the chance of giving the Cowboys (a team that has been one of the better offensive teams in the league, except today) a chance to do anything.

The odds of a fumble on a kneel down are very astronomical.

[EagleFan]

dola: plus it's nice to see a player putting a win over his stats.

[wade moore]

dola: plus it's nice to see a player putting a win over his stats.

It's nice to see a player putting my fantasy win over his stats ;).

[wade moore]

Bwahaahaha..

This is just too comical at this point.

[wade moore]

Moss AGAIn eliminates a first?

bwahahaha

[RomaGoth]

A great move. It put the stamp on the win. It left them with 3 kneel downs and getting on the plane to go home. Why even risk the chance of giving the Cowboys (a team that has been one of the better offensive teams in the league, except today) a chance to do anything.

The odds of a fumble on a kneel down are very astronomical.

Agreed.

[Vegas Vic]

Adrian Peterson is good, but he's no Reggie Bush.

[bhlloy]

Roy Williams suspended a game for his third horse collar personal foul of the season. Is this a rule for all personal fouls or specific to the horse collar?

[SackAttack]

I would imagine that since he was the reason for the rule's creation, the league is getting tired of him doing it. Heh.

[bhlloy]

Actually, that is kind of where I was going :) If it isn't the same for everyone, it sucks balls. I honestly don't see the horse collar as a more dangerous play than a hit on a defenseless receiver, for example.

[Voo]

How often has a rule been made for one player, and the player continued to break said rule?

[SackAttack]

How often has a rule been made for one player, and the player continued to break said rule?

Which is kind of where I was going. It's not that they're "only enforcing discipline for one player," it's that the rule was changed because of the conduct of one very specific player, which player has continued to flout the rule.

If a hit to the wallet isn't going to get the message across, maybe sitting for a week and the resulting anger from his coaches will.

[stevew]

They really need to start suspending a lot more heavily for all personal fouls. Is there a list of the personal fouls somewhere?

[flere-imsaho]

I'm pretty sure Williams' suspension is because its his third offense this season. He's been fined for the other two. I believe the suspension would apply to any player who did three in a season.

[rkmsuf]

Since when do they show high school teams on MNF?

[EagleFan]

Roy Williams is nothing more than a cheap shot artist. I say keep him out for a year.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

I think it's safe to say no one has or will probably get suspended for the horse collar because I don't think any other player in the league has been flagged for it more than once.

I can't wait until he does it again, and they suspend 2-3 more games.