NFL Playoff Round I Thread

[panerd]

Don't know if there was a thread started for this or not but I will go ahead and start one plus see if anyone had seen the new schedules are out for next year...

1. Can't wait for KC to come to St. Louis for a regular season game.
2. Bengals schedule is pretty rough. Obviously 2 balt and 2 pitt but also indy, new orleans, new england, miami, san diego, and maybe even carolina. Thats 6 or 7 losses there alone. Not pretty... maybe 6-10.
3. Also wanted to say that the Bengals are going to kick the Jets ass this weekend.

AFC East
Buffalo Bills
Home: Miami, New England, N.Y. Jets, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Detroit, Jacksonville
Away: Miami, New England, N.Y. Jets, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Green Bay, Minnesota, Kansas City

Miami Dolphins
Home: Buffalo, New England, N.Y. Jets, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Detroit, Tennessee
Away: Buffalo, New England, N.Y. Jets, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Green Bay, Minnesota, Oakland

New England Patriots
Home: Buffalo, Miami, N.Y. Jets, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Green Bay, Minnesota, Indianapolis
Away: Buffalo, Miami, N.Y. Jets, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Detroit, San Diego

New York Jets
Home: Buffalo, Miami, New England, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Green Bay, Minnesota, Houston
Away: Buffalo, Miami, New England, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Detroit, Denver


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AFC North

Baltimore Ravens
Home: Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Miami, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Denver
Away: Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, New England, N.Y. Jets, Atlanta, Carolina, Houston

Cincinnati Bengals
Home: Baltimore, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Miami, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, San Diego
Away: Baltimore, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, New England, N.Y. Jets, Atlanta, Carolina, Indianapolis

Cleveland Browns
Home: Baltimore, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, New England, N.Y. Jets, Atlanta, Carolina, Kansas City
Away: Baltimore, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Miami, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Jacksonville

Pittsburgh Steelers
Home: Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, New England, N.Y. Jets, Atlanta, Carolina, Oakland
Away: Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Buffalo, Miami, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Tennessee

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AFC South

Houston Texans
Home: Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Kansas City, San Diego, Dallas, N.Y. Giants, Baltimore
Away: Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Denver, Oakland, Philadelphia, Washington, N.Y. Jets

Indianapolis Colts
Home: Houston, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Kansas City, San Diego, Dallas, N.Y. Giants, Cincinnati
Away: Houston, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Denver, Oakland, Philadelphia, Washington, New England

Jacksonville Jaguars
Home: Houston, Indianapolis, Tennessee, Denver, Oakland, Philadelphia, Washington, Cleveland
Away: Houston, Indianapolis, Tennessee, Kansas City, San Diego, Dallas, N.Y. Giants, Buffalo

Tennessee Titans
Home: Houston, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Denver, Oakland, Philadelphia, Washington, Pittsburgh
Away: Houston, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Kansas City, San Diego, Dallas, N.Y. Giants, Miami

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AFC West

Denver Broncos
Home: Kansas City, Oakland, San Diego, Houston, Indianapolis, St. Louis, Seattle, N.Y. Jets
Away: Kansas City, Oakland, San Diego, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Arizona, San Francisco, Baltimore

Kansas City Chiefs
Home: Denver, Oakland, San Diego, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Arizona, San Francisco, Buffalo
Away: Denver, Oakland, San Diego, Houston, Indianapolis, St. Louis, Seattle, Cleveland

Oakland Raiders
Home: Denver, Kansas City, San Diego, Houston, Indianapolis, St. Louis, Seattle, Miami
Away: Denver, Kansas City, San Diego, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Arizona, San Francisco, Pittsburgh

San Diego Chargers
Home: Denver, Kansas City, Oakland, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Arizona, San Francisco, New England
Away: Denver, Kansas City, Oakland, Houston, Indianapolis, St. Louis, Seattle, Cincinnati

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NFC East
Dallas Cowboys
Home: N.Y. Giants, Philadelphia, Washington, Chicago, Detroit, Jacksonville, Tennessee, New Orleans
Away: N.Y. Giants, Philadelphia, Washington, Green Bay, Minnesota, Houston, Indianapolis, Arizona

New York Giants
Home: Dallas, Philadelphia, Washington, Chicago, Detroit, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Carolina
Away: Dallas, Philadelphia, Washington, Green Bay, Minnesota, Houston, Indianapolis, Seattle

Philadelphia Eagles
Home: Dallas, N.Y. Giants, Washington, Green Bay, Minnesota, Houston, Indianapolis, Atlanta
Away: Dallas, N.Y. Giants, Washington, Chicago, Detroit, Jacksonville, Tennessee, San Francisco

Washington Redskins
Home: Dallas, N.Y. Giants, Philadelphia, Green Bay, Minnesota, Houston, Indianapolis, Tampa Bay
Away: Dallas, N.Y. Giants, Philadelphia, Chicago, Detroit, Jacksonville, Tennessee, St. Louis

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NFC North

Chicago Bears
Home: Detroit, Green Bay, Minnesota, Philadelphia, Washington, New England, N.Y. Jets, Seattle
Away: Detroit, Green Bay, Minnesota, Dallas, N.Y. Giants, Buffalo, Miami, Carolina

Detroit Lions
Home: Chicago, Green Bay, Minnesota, Philadelphia, Washington, New England, N.Y. Jets, St. Louis
Away: Chicago, Green Bay, Minnesota, Dallas, N.Y. Giants, Buffalo, Miami, Tampa Bay

Green Bay Packers
Home: Chicago, Detroit, Minnesota, Dallas, N.Y. Giants, Buffalo, Miami, San Francisco
Away: Chicago, Detroit, Minnesota, Philadelphia, Washington, New England, N.Y. Jets, Atlanta

Minnesota Vikings
Home: Chicago, Detroit, Green Bay, Dallas, N.Y. Giants, Buffalo, Miami, Arizona
Away: Chicago, Detroit, Green Bay, Philadelphia, Washington, New England, N.Y. Jets, New Orleans

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NFC South Atlanta Falcons
Home: Carolina, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Arizona, San Francisco, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Green Bay
Away: Carolina, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, St. Louis, Seattle, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Philadelphi

Carolina Panthers
Home: Atlanta, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Arizona, San Francisco, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Chicago
Away: Atlanta, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, St. Louis, Seattle, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, N.Y. Giants

New Orleans Saints
Home: Atlanta, Carolina, Tampa Bay, St. Louis, Seattle, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Minnesota
Away: Atlanta, Carolina, Tampa Bay, Arizona, San Francisco, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Dallas

Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Home: Atlanta, Carolina, New Orleans, St. Louis, Seattle, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Detroit
Away: Atlanta, Carolina, New Orleans, Arizona, San Francisco, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Washington

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NFC West

Arizona Cardinals
Home: St. Louis, San Francisco, Seattle, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Denver, Oakland, Dallas
Away: St. Louis, San Francisco, Seattle, Atlanta, Carolina, Kansas City, San Diego, Minnesota

San Francisco 49ers
Home: Arizona, St. Louis, Seattle, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Denver, Oakland, Philadelphia
Away: Arizona, St. Louis, Seattle, Atlanta, Carolina, Kansas City, San Diego, Green Bay

Seattle Seahawks
Home: Arizona, San Francisco, St. Louis, Atlanta, Carolina, Kansas City, San Diego, N.Y. Giants
Away: Arizona, San Francisco, St. Louis, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Denver, Oakland, Chicago

St. Louis Rams
Home: Arizona, San Francisco, Seattle, Atlanta, Carolina, Kansas City, San Diego, Washington
Away: Arizona, San Francisco, Seattle, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Denver, Oakland, Detroit

[ColtCrazy]

I'm excited about the Colts' home sked next year. Lots of good teams coming in.

As for this weekend's playoffs, I could see several road teams pulling off upsets. Should be a good weekend of football.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

1. Can't wait for KC to come to St. Louis for a regular season game.

I'll be there just like the last regular season game KC had in STL. I remember the KC fans laughing because the STL offense had to go to a silent count IN THEIR OWN STADIUM due to crowd noise. Also, the "home of the CHIEFS" at the end of the national anthem was very loud.

[RendeR]

I just hope everyone keeps writing off the Bengals this weekend. I'd rather be a home underdog. THey play better with a chip on their shoulder.

The Jets saw nothing last week that is normal in the Bengals. Defense will be almost full strength and the offense, I hope, won't drop the first 9 passes thrown their way.

[Radii]

I just hope everyone keeps writing off the Bengals this weekend. I'd rather be a home underdog. THey play better with a chip on their shoulder.


I believe someone mentioned in another thread that Cincinnati opened up as a 1 point favorite and the line has been moving in their favor since then. They are currently a 2 1/2 point favorite. Don't think they are being written off at all!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I believe someone mentioned in another thread that Cincinnati opened up as a 1 point favorite and the line has been moving in their favor since then. They are currently a 2 1/2 point favorite. Don't think they are being written off at all!

Generally speaking though, shouldn't a game between two evenly matched teams open up with the home team as a 3 point favorite? That was always my understanding, but perhaps that has changed.

[Lathum]

Jesus, Giants have a brutal road schedule next year.

[RendeR]

Generally speaking though, shouldn't a game between two evenly matched teams open up with the home team as a 3 point favorite? That was always my understanding, but perhaps that has changed.


DING!


Add to that every pundit with a microphone is taking the Jets right now. Might change by Saturday, things usually do.

I just want the Jets all pumped up and overconfident from listening to their own hype and watching worthless film from a game we never intended to really game plan for last week. As one commentator said "if the Jets don't burn this game film before they even open it they're gonna be very sorry"

[Thomkal]

have to like my Cards not having a single road game in the Northeast next season, and depending on when they play their road games, maybe no real cold weather games at all.

[Thomkal]

And I'm hoping for a return to the Cards play in last year's playoffs unlike this season's Jekyll and Hyde play. Gonna be tough with maybe Boldin, Rogers-Cromartie, and Calais Campbell out for this game.

[panerd]

DING!


Add to that every pundit with a microphone is taking the Jets right now. Might change by Saturday, things usually do.

I just want the Jets all pumped up and overconfident from listening to their own hype and watching worthless film from a game we never intended to really game plan for last week. As one commentator said "if the Jets don't burn this game film before they even open it they're gonna be very sorry"


I think a lot of people talk about the East coast bias and it becomes an overused term. But as far as this matchup goes I think that is what you are seeing. All of these sportcasters and talking heads grew up on the Jets and are unable to see that a rookie QB on the road is going to be a disaster. (Sorry guys but last season Flacco and Ryan had shown some things prior to the playoffs, Sanchez looks really raw)

[Radii]

Generally speaking though, shouldn't a game between two evenly matched teams open up with the home team as a 3 point favorite? That was always my understanding, but perhaps that has changed.

Yeah, sure, but it seems a little disingenuous to try to play the "everyone is writing us off" card when you're a favorite at home as a 10-6 division winner against a 9-7 wild card team who needed two teams to not try against them to even get in the playoffs, doesn't it?

"Hi, we're Cincinnati, we have a better record, are playing at home, not only have we been favored by vegas to win since the line opened, but more money is going on Cincinnati's side and its not even close(for the line to have moved nearly 1 1/2 points), but NO ONE BELIEVES IN US. WE'RE GONNA SHOCK THE WORLD."

:D I dunno, its no big thing, the Colts and Chargers and Vikings and Saints fans are all trying to find ways to be the underdog too, its just amusing to me.

[Passacaglia]

That's true, but there's still the fact that, even if it's just the backups, there's players on the Bengals who are thinking about how they just got beat down by this team last week, and that will matter to them more than who's favored and by how much.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Yeah, sure, but it seems a little disingenuous to try to play the "everyone is writing us off" card when you're a favorite at home as a 10-6 division winner against a 9-7 wild card team who needed two teams to not try against them to even get in the playoffs, doesn't it?

"Hi, we're Cincinnati, we have a better record, are playing at home, not only have we been favored by vegas to win since the line opened, but more money is going on Cincinnati's side and its not even close(for the line to have moved nearly 1 1/2 points), but NO ONE BELIEVES IN US. WE'RE GONNA SHOCK THE WORLD."

:D I dunno, its no big thing, the Colts and Chargers and Vikings and Saints fans are all trying to find ways to be the underdog too, its just amusing to me.

I understand what you're saying. Was just making sure I wasn't missing something more obvious.

[panerd]

That's true, but there's still the fact that, even if it's just the backups, there's players on the Bengals who are thinking about how they just got beat down by this team last week, and that will matter to them more than who's favored and by how much.

And on the other hand there are players who didn't play, and others who didn't play hard, who want to prove that when they are in the lineup at 100% they make a 37 point difference. Would rather have Benson, Palmer, Peko, Ochocinco fired up about how they will make the difference than worrying whether or not JT O'Sullivan, Brandon Johnson, and Morgan Trent are disappointed in their efforts.

[panerd]

Dola: Why do the Eagles, Cardinals, and Patroits seem to get the pass on last week's eggs but Cinci won't be able to overcome it? Any Bengal fan will tell you that team stopped trying by the second Jet's score and with Benson and others being held out it is obvious they weren't going 100% from the get go.

[Dr. Sak]

Dola: Why do the Eagles, Cardinals, and Patroits seem to get the pass on last week's eggs but Cinci won't be able to overcome it? Any Bengal fan will tell you that team stopped trying by the second Jet's score and with Benson and others being held out it is obvious they weren't going 100% from the get go.

The Eagles shouldn't get a pass, they looked like total shit in a game that if they won, they would not be playing this week.

[panerd]

The Eagles shouldn't get a pass, they looked like total shit in a game that if they won, they would not be playing this week.

I guess the Cardinals are the perfect example. Maybe Palmer should haven't have even played but it was pretty obvious that the players weren't going all out trying to catch balls and make plays once the game started to get out of control. Is this acceptable if it isn't what Lewis sorta wanted? No. But from all accounts I have read this was kind of the mentality going in.

If I am playing my 9 year old niece in checkers sometimes I put in a different effort than if I am playing a game of chess against somebody that I really want to beat. Their heart just wasn't there and all credit to Jets because theirs was.

[jbergey22]

Generally speaking though, shouldn't a game between two evenly matched teams open up with the home team as a 3 point favorite? That was always my understanding, but perhaps that has changed.

That +2.5 line isnt a great sign for the Bengals though.

It pretty much means they are asking for Bengals action by setting the home team as less than 3 point favs. If the Line had been Bengals -3.5 it means they were looking for Jets action by setting a tight matchup by more than a FG.

What it all means? Probably not a whole lot other than Vegas seems to get richer every year while the bettors have lost money again. Happens every year:)

[Maple Leafs]

AFC East
Buffalo Bills
Home: ... Detroit ...

Hello, Rogers Centre!

[JediKooter]

The Jets are being picked because they have the number 1 ranked defense and are going up against the 24th ranked offense.

[jbergey22]

The Jets are being picked because they have the number 1 ranked defense and are going up against the 24th ranked offense.

also the #1 rush offense in a game where weather could play an important role.

Id have a really hard time picking the Bengals in this game.

Im not even sure if home field is going to be a benefit for Cincy the way they played last week in the cold.

[claphamsa]

new orleans, new england, miami, san diego, and maybe even carolina. Thats 6 or 7 losses there alone. Not pretty... maybe 6-10.




see I look at this and say, that much sweeter when they win 12!

[JediKooter]

also the #1 rush offense in a game where weather could play an important role.

Id have a really hard time picking the Bengals in this game.

Im not even sure if home field is going to be a benefit for Cincy the way they played last week in the cold.

Oh yes, coupled with the number one rushing offense, I would definitely pick the Jets. I think last week was nothing to really base much on for the Bengals as they sat a lot of people, etc. However, looking at the previous 15 games of the season, they are barely averaging 19 points a game while the Jets are giving up just under 15 points a game.

Now the Bengals do have the number 4 defense, but, they are giving up 18 points a game while the Jets are scoring almost 22 points a game. This is another area that falls into the Jets favor.

The Bengals have a chance, but, they have to keep the Jets from running tha ball and that means they need to win the time of possession battle.

[panerd]

Oh yes, coupled with the number one rushing offense, I would definitely pick the Jets. I think last week was nothing to really base much on for the Bengals as they sat a lot of people, etc. However, looking at the previous 15 games of the season, they are barely averaging 19 points a game while the Jets are giving up just under 15 points a game.

Now the Bengals do have the number 4 defense, but, they are giving up 18 points a game while the Jets are scoring almost 22 points a game. This is another area that falls into the Jets favor.

The Bengals have a chance, but, they have to keep the Jets from running tha ball and that means they need to win the time of possession battle.

From your sig I will assume your team is the Chargers. Your analysis doesn't bode well for your team who barely held off this crappy Bengal team at home a few weeks ago. I am pretty sure the Bengals have more than "a chance".

[JediKooter]

Definitely a Chargers fan for sure. Didn't say the Bengals were crappy and they did almost beat the Chargers. However, as a long time Charger fan and especially a big Norv Turner non-supporter, the Chargers have a very bad tendency to play down to their opponent. Saw it in the Dallas game, Cleveland, Bengals and both Raider games. So yes, I am worried that the Charger will have another one and done Post Season after having a first round bye.

[panerd]

When did the Cards/Packer game become a push? I thought it was like 2 or 3 points a few days ago?

[panerd]

Definitely a Chargers fan for sure. Didn't say the Bengals were crappy and they did almost beat the Chargers. However, as a long time Charger fan and especially a big Norv Turner non-supporter, the Chargers have a very bad tendency to play down to their opponent. Saw it in the Dallas game, Cleveland, Bengals and both Raider games. So yes, I am worried that the Charger will have another one and done Post Season after having a first round bye.

If I were you I would much rather face the Jets than the Bengals. The Jets have no shot against San Diego while with the Bengals you never know.

Jets "Big" wins: At Ind second string? Cin second string? At Jeckyll Hou? NE.
Bengals: At GB, At Balt, At Pit, Pit, Balt.

[Samdari]

Cin second string?

You do realize this didn't happen right?

[panerd]

You do realize this didn't happen right?

I could have sworn their star sat out along with several defensive forces and that JT O'SUllivan took more than half the snaps. Makes no sense really to debate this until Saturday anyways but that was hardly an effort they put out there on Sunday night. I guess New England really tried against Houston because Brady was in there?

[Scoobz0202]

Jesus, Giants have a brutal road schedule next year.


Same with the Cowboys.

Eagles and Redskins are lucky mofos

[JediKooter]

If I were you I would much rather face the Jets than the Bengals. The Jets have no shot against San Diego while with the Bengals you never know.

Jets "Big" wins: At Ind second string? Cin second string? At Jeckyll Hou? NE.
Bengals: At GB, At Balt, At Pit, Pit, Balt.

Yes, I would prefer the Chargers play the Jets over the Bengals. The Chargers don't have much of a run game, but, are dangerous enough on the ground that their recievers can make big plays. It's unfortunate that the Chargers' offensive line sucked ass this year with their run blocking, made it look like LT and Sproles couldn't run. Well, they couldn't because they were having to avoid defenders that were already 2 yards beyond the line of scrimage by the time they got the ball.

I have a feeling it will be 2006 all over again and the Chargers will end up playing the Patriots in the Divisional round and the Chargers find unique ways to choke when they play the Patriots. It will be some stupid weird play that will allow the Patriots to win. Something like Rivers throws the ball to Jackson, but, it hits Jackson on the back of the shoulder, then it hits LT on the front of his foot while he's taking a step that launches the ball into the air and the Patriots intercept it and run it back for a touch down to win the game.

Trust me, being a life long Chargers fan, I won't say the Chargers are going to the Super Bowl until no time is on the clock and they have at least one more point than whoever it is they play, if they make it to the Conference Championship round.

[Samdari]

I could have sworn their star sat out along with several defensive forces and that JT O'SUllivan took more than half the snaps. Makes no sense really to debate this until Saturday anyways but that was hardly an effort they put out there on Sunday night. I guess New England really tried against Houston because Brady was in there?

Palmer was not pulled until the game was out of reach - in the second half. If O'Sullivan took more than half the snaps, it was due to their inability to get When teams are trying to keep guys from being injured, doesn't it start with the QB? They played the first half trying to win that game, and got their asses handed to them.

And go ahead and fool yourself into thinking that Peko and Geathers are 'forces'. Sadly for Cinicinatti, the players that were key to their defense being a force early are on IR - Odom led them in sacks playing 6 games?

[mauchow]

I would take the giants schedule over the Vikings. Holy crap that is a loaded schedule.


Home: Chicago, Detroit, Green Bay, Dallas, N.Y. Giants, Buffalo, Miami, Arizona
Away: Chicago, Detroit, Green Bay, Philadelphia, Washington, New England, N.Y. Jets, New Orleans

[RendeR]

Hello, Rogers Centre!


I doubt this will happen because they actually want people to come to the game.

[RainMaker]

This feels like an impossible week to be betting on NFL football. I looked at all the lines and couldn't find a single thing I liked at all. I can see each game going both ways. It's going to be a lot of fun.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I doubt this will happen because they actually want people to come to the game.
So they're moving the game to Dallas?

[jbergey22]

This feels like an impossible week to be betting on NFL football. I looked at all the lines and couldn't find a single thing I liked at all. I can see each game going both ways. It's going to be a lot of fun.

Jets +2.5
Cards/Packers over 47
Eagles/Cowboys over 45

[Radii]

So 30 minutes in and we're not even halfway through the first quarter yet. At least each team has already burned a challenge!

[bhlloy]

Are you shitting me, the punter can't punt IN THE PLAYOFFS because he's ill?

If he's well enough to jog around out there in slacks, he's well enough to run out on the field once every 10 minutes and kick a freaking ball. Holy crap.

[Karlifornia]

Marvin Lewis showing good restraint with his challenges.

[Eaglesfan27]

That was a pretty throw and Braylon just had a horrible drop.

[zums]

this announcing team is driving me crazy already......

[Eaglesfan27]

this announcing team is driving me crazy already......

+1. Love how they keep butchering names as well.

[Danny]

Wow that was a bad call.

[thesloppy]

this announcing team is driving me crazy already......

I was thinking the same thing....they are doing a swell job of making this seem like it's just any old regular season game. They were obviously at their most excited when they got to talk about Theisman's punt 600 years ago...and they still stumbled and stuttered all over that, too.

[Crapshoot]

Carson Palmer looks awful here - has he just been this bad all year and we haven't noticed? A couple of years ago, I'd have put him just below Manning/Brady/Brees elite level...

[rowech]

Carson Palmer looks awful here - has he just been this bad all year and we haven't noticed? A couple of years ago, I'd have put him just below Manning/Brady/Brees elite level...

He's been bad at times this year unfortunately, especially in the 1st half of games.

[rowech]

I should also note that COles has been awful compared to what Housh used to offer them.

[Radii]

Theisman has no idea who threw that touchdown pass... just embarrassing. Nice TD for the Jets.

[zums]

I can understand them throwing Theismann in there as (despite being an idiot) he has broadcasting experience seeing as he used to regularly do the Sunday night game. What i DONT understand is #1 - who thought Joe Gibbs would be a logical 3rd person in the booth and #2 - who the hell agreed and ok'd the decision....

There are a total of 4 games this weekend, with the majority of the NFL season over and the college season completed.... and you couldnt find a better 3rd person who has, you know, actually announced a football game for a freeking NFL PLAYOFF GAME?!?!

I thought this game would be fairly boring anyway with the strong running game/defense mentality of both teams, but ugh...... these guys are not helping

[Karlifornia]

Yeah, Gibbs, besides stumbling over every 3rd word, just doesn't have a voice that's appealing to listen to. It's fitting that he was involved in NASCAR, cause he sounds just like one of those drivers talking through the static-y radio.

[Young Drachma]

I was watching earlier and thought "is that Joe Gibbs? What's he doing in the booth?" Glad to confirm it was indeed him.

[Lathum]

Glad I' not the only one who thinks the announcing is an embarrassment. You would never know this was a playoff game.

[RainMaker]

The announcing is almost as embarassing as going into a playoff game without a punter on hand.

[Lathum]

I like Tony Romo despite myself.

[rowech]

I like Tony Romo despite myself.

He's much better than people realize. I hate the Cowboys but I really want to see him break through.

[JPhillips]

So far the Bengals are winning the big categories; turnovers, penalties and drops.

btw- What the hell was that kickoff?

[Radii]

Well that was an awful sequence for the Jets, wow.

[RainMaker]

Wow. That's two really costly penalties.

[JPhillips]

Benson is a beast.

and John Riggins was a heck of a back.

[JPhillips]

dola

Please let this loss bring the joy of a Bratkowski firing. This offense is painful.

[MrDNA]

"Carson Palmer has been high all night."

Well, I guess that would explain it.

[JediKooter]

Looks like Palmer went to Jamarcus Russell's Quarterback School.

[PilotMan]

I hate that penalty. What's the defender supposed to do, kiss him? His foot wasn't even on the ground yet.

[PilotMan]

Laces OUT Marino!

[JediKooter]

Damn, Steven Hawking can kick field goals better than the Bengals kicker.

[Karlifornia]

Bye, Bengals. So I guess Mark Sanchez' first season qualifies as a success now?

[JediKooter]

Do the Bengals think there's another game they have to play next week? Wow, what a way to choke at the end of the game.

[Young Drachma]

That defense is crazy.

[JediKooter]

So last weeks game against the Jets looks like it was not a fluke for sure now.

[Thomkal]

nice choke job there Cincy. I'm sure the GM will hand that kicker a pink slip as soon as he enters the locker room.

[JetsIn06]

:D

[stevew]

Who DEY!

[PilotMan]

nice choke job there Cincy. I'm sure the GM will hand that kicker a pink slip as soon as he enters the locker room.

Yeah, Graham's had some good years but I can't see him playing for them after this year. He has been terrible. It'll be like Vandercrap in Indy.

[PilotMan]

Who DEY!
:+1:

[rowech]

Yeah, Graham's had some good years but I can't see him playing for them after this year. He has been terrible. It'll be like Vandercrap in Indy.

Because of all the snap problems at the start of the season, I wonder if that plays with his mind at all. Just thinking...is the snap going to be good this time and not focusing on the kick.

[Young Drachma]

I wonder if Sanchez wishes he'd stayed at USC this year? ;)

[jbergey22]

Game of the week coming up. I believe we will see a lot of points being put up.

[Comey]

I have zero faith in the Eagles against the Cowboys. They are an awful matchup for this team.

[jbergey22]

Yeah I couldnt have been more off. Eagles cant do anything and the Cowboys keep messing up. So far this game is a slopfest.

[tucker rocky]

I guess defenders aren't allowed to defend against the pass.
Gift TD, with that horrible PI call.

[gstelmack]

I guess defenders aren't allowed to defend against the pass.
Gift TD, with that horrible PI call.

Why? He hit him before the ball got there. One of the few decent PI calls I've seen. I'm amazed they had the guts to call it.

[Eaglesfan27]

Maclin!!

[kingfc22]

Sweet!

[gstelmack]

And Vick throws a 76-yard TD strike as I'm typing that last post.

[jbergey22]

Is that his first TD pass of the year?

[sabotai]

If the Eagles end up losing this game, especially if McNabb continues to do nothing, Philly sports talk radio is going ot be SO FUN this week!

[Eaglesfan27]

That was nice :)

No, Jbergey, he threw at least 1 earlier in the year, I think he has thrown a few.

[kingfc22]

INT baby! That did not hit the ground.

[tucker rocky]

Why? He hit him before the ball got there. One of the few decent PI calls I've seen. I'm amazed they had the guts to call it.

Nevermind.
Looked at the replay again, and yes defender made contact before the ball got there.

[Eaglesfan27]

INT baby! That did not hit the ground.

Agreed. Definitely not enough evidence to overturn it from those angles.

[tucker rocky]

A good call.
Ball did hit the ground.

[EagleFan]

BS, these refs suck!!!

[dervack]

Is that his first TD pass of the year?
Since it's only 9 days old, probably?

[tucker rocky]

BS, these refs suck!!!

I wish it was an INT.

[jbergey22]

Since it's only 9 days old, probably?

LOL! Nice catch.

[jbergey22]

Eagles need their safetys back!

[Eaglesfan27]

That was scary. Good job by Rocca.

[Eaglesfan27]

SOB!

[RainMaker]

That play is automatic for them.

[Comey]

The Cowboys have about four plays: HB Delay, WR screen, WR slant, and TE cross. The Eagles have yet to figure this out, and even if they did, they couldn't stop it.

Sigh. Tough to see the McNabb era end like this.

[jbergey22]

Well McNabb needs to come around here and get some momentum before going into halftime.

[Senator]

After the Texas game, this comes as some relief.

[Eaglesfan27]

:(

[Eaglesfan27]

This is the worst football weekend of my life I think.

[RainMaker]

With 3 timeouts, I think Dallas needs to go for the kill here.

[Eaglesfan27]

That better be offensive interference.

[jbergey22]

That call was bad

[cuervo72]

Can NBC put Leno on at 10PM instead of this?

[mauchow]

So: Dallas @ Minnesota and Saints vs Packers/Cards.

Should be a fun weekend next week.

[jbergey22]

So: Dallas @ Minnesota and Saints vs Packers/Cards.

Should be a fun weekend next week.

I got my tickets. Not counting the Eagles out just yet though. Tons of big play ability on that team.

[Eaglesfan27]

The only bright side is that this should ensure that Wade is in Dallas for at least a few more years.

[SirFozzie]

is there a mercy rule in playoff football? Sheesh. Talk about two bad weeks. From a probable first round bye to an utter collapse.

[MJ4H]

luv felix

[tucker rocky]

Will the Eagles draft a QB to groom as a replacement for McNabb?
Maybe an offensive line that can do a better job of protecting the QB?

Eagle fans have every right to be pissed about the last 2 weeks of utter garbage from their team.

[Lathum]

Will the Eagles draft a QB to groom as a replacement for McNabb?
Maybe an offensive line that can do a better job of protecting the QB?

Eagle fans have every right to be pissed about the last 2 weeks of utter garbage from their team.

They did with Kolb a few years ago

[Senator]

Dallas against Minn sounds like a good game. We have a pretty good record against the aged vet going back to the early 90's.

[larrymcg421]

Damn! I forgot to check beforehand whether this could be considered a big game for Tony Romo.

[jbergey22]

Dallas against Minn sounds like a good game. We have a pretty good record against the aged vet going back to the early 90's.

Ware is going to cause us a lot of problems. I think it will be a low scoring game.

Whoever has a bigger game between Adrian Peterson and Miles Austin will likely decide it.

Now that Felix is getting the ball that scares me as well. I was hoping for a full dose of Barber knowing he wouldnt be able to do much.

[Tasan]

Damn! I forgot to check beforehand whether this could be considered a big game for Tony Romo.


Its not, they're winning big and other people have touched the football for the Cowboys. Plus, did you see all the picks Tony almost threw? Sheesh.

[Philliesfan980]

The Cowboys have about four plays: HB Delay, WR screen, WR slant, and TE cross. The Eagles have yet to figure this out, and even if they did, they couldn't stop it.

Sigh. Tough to see the McNabb era end like this.

Nah, he'll be back to frustrate us Eagles fans next year. Just like Reid will be here until he decides he wants to leave. We'll continue to be a 9-7 - 11-5 type team who loses playoff games on the road.

I'd rather just be a 2-14 team and have no hope than to go through this shit every year.

[Philliesfan980]

Blasting "the na na na na.. hey hey hey" song, while the game is still being played, through the PA system...

Stay classy Dallas. Good to see things haven't changed in the new stadium.

[Matthean]

I'd rather just be a 2-14 team and have no hope than to go through this shit every year.

You secretly want to be a Lions fan? :P

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[Philliesfan980]

You secretly want to be a Lions fan? :P

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In a way yes.

Take the Sixers for example. This year is great, they've finally realized that that path to success is bottoming out, not just adding enough pieces year in and year out to be competitive.

[RedKingGold]

That was bad.

[Dr. Sak]

It was like watching a monkey fuck a football out there...and I'm not talking about Romo having sex with Simpson.

[Tasan]

Blasting "the na na na na.. hey hey hey" song, while the game is still being played, through the PA system...

Stay classy Dallas. Good to see things haven't changed in the new stadium.

At least they don't throw snowballs with batteries in them.

Or cheer for a team that put bounties on players heads.

Or cheer when a player is down hard on the turf not getting up.

I don't think Philly fans can really talk about class.

[Lathum]

Blasting "the na na na na.. hey hey hey" song, while the game is still being played, through the PA system...

Stay classy Dallas. Good to see things haven't changed in the new stadium.

Lol. How quick you forget how Philly fans treated Irvin. Way to uphold the image of an idiot Philly sports fan. Way to be a flaming hypocrit

[Dr. Sak]

Lol. How quick you forget how Philly fans treated Irvin. Way to uphold the image of an idiot Philly sports fan. Way to be a flaming hypocrit

Coming from the biggest blind homer on the board.

[Senator]

Stay classy Dallas. Good to see things haven't changed in the new stadium.

Like cheering when Michael Irvin is lying on his back with a career ending neck injury.

Or putting a bounty on a kicker.

Or doing the hoochie koochie dance when Philly was winning 44-6 last year.

We don't forget.

[lungs]

All I can say is... FUCK YEAH

[Eaglesfan27]

It was like watching a monkey fuck a football out there...and I'm not talking about Romo having sex with Simpson.

Who is the monkey and who is the football?

[Dr. Sak]

Who is the monkey and who is the football?

Andy is kind of shaped like a big football. I refrain to make a comment on a monkey because I don't wanna get boxed for someone misinterpreting my comment :)

[Lathum]

Coming from the biggest blind homer on the board.

What does me being a homer have to do with anything? Eagles fans have been scum on more than one occasion. For someone to call out Dallas for being less than sporting is absurd

[jbergey22]

Anyone have a good read on this Patriots/Ravens game?

I know the Ravens were pretty pissed off after they played the first time but thats about all I have. And Flacco hasnt played his best ball the 2nd half of the season.

[lungs]

I'm not sure what I get more enjoyment out of.... the Cowboys win or my house full of Packer friends that left disappointed that the Boys get a shot at Brett Favre before the Pack do... when they haven't even won their game tomorrow yet.

[Philliesfan980]

I guess I should have clarified - Most Philly fans are pretty classless. Especially the ones who go to the games. I'll be the first person to agree with you on that.

What I was referring to was not that the crowd was chanting the song, that's well within their right as a fan. But to have the music blaring through the PA system is pretty bad. Fans of a lot of teams are idiots, we all know that - but to come from an organization (they're the one hitting the play button on the song), is pretty bad.

All in all, not a HUGE deal (I agree the batteries, cheering injured players, etc is much worse). Just thought it was strange that the taunting was coming from official stadium personnel.

[TrendNet]

I guess I should have clarified - Most Philly fans are pretty classless. Especially the ones who go to the games. I'll be the first person to agree with you on that.

What I was referring to was not that the crowd was chanting the song, that's well within their right as a fan. But to have the music blaring through the PA system is pretty bad. Fans of a lot of teams are idiots, we all know that - but to come from an organization (they're the one hitting the play button on the song), is pretty bad.

All in all, not a HUGE deal (I agree the batteries, cheering injured players, etc is much worse). Just thought it was strange that the taunting was coming from official stadium personnel.

What's worse..

playing a song

or have an employee of another team come in, and spit on the midfield Star and then post on the teams official website?

Eagles employee spits on the blue star, and videotapes it | ProFootballTalk.com (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/06/eagles-employee-spits-on-the-blue-star-and-videotapes-it/)

Stay classy Philly

[Philliesfan980]

What's worse..

playing a song

or have an employee of another team come in, and spit on the midfield Star and then post on the teams official website?

Eagles employee spits on the blue star, and videotapes it | ProFootballTalk.com (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/06/eagles-employee-spits-on-the-blue-star-and-videotapes-it/)

Stay classy Philly

In the grand scheme of things? Probably a tie.

One is really all about trash talking before a big game. The other is digging a knife into someone you already beat. Really two different things, but I do see your point.

[Comey]

It's a shame that a few people give an entire fanbase a bad name. But as long as people want to perpetuate the stereotype of the classless Philly fan, it will continue. I imagine it will never go away.

Every fanbase has their jackasses. It's just that nobody wants to point those out, and instead point at Philly fans. It gets annoying, especially when I try to be respectful of every team, even if I can't stand them.

I guess this whole "respect your opponent" thing is too idealistic. ; )

Congratulations to the Cowboys; they dominated the last two weeks. Next week will be interesting, for sure.

[Philliesfan980]

It's a shame that a few people give an entire fanbase a bad name. But as long as people want to perpetuate the stereotype of the classless Philly fan, it will continue. I imagine it will never go away.

Every fanbase has their jackasses. It's just that nobody wants to point those out, and instead point at Philly fans. It gets annoying, especially when I try to be respectful of every team, even if I can't stand them.

I guess this whole "respect your opponent" thing is too idealistic. ; )

Congratulations to the Cowboys; they dominated the last two weeks. Next week will be interesting, for sure.

As another Philly fan, I agree with you on getting "lumped in" with the rest of the idiots. It's really a shame, but what are you going to do, you know?

As for the Cowboys, they completely dominated in all phases of the game. I really think they'll end up representing the NFC in the SB this year.

What's so strange about the whole thing is how bad/average this team was before that Saints game. Something woke them up, that's for sure.

[jbergey22]

As for the Cowboys, they completely dominated in all phases of the game. I really think they'll end up representing the NFC in the SB this year.

What's so strange about the whole thing is how bad/average this team was before that Saints game. Something woke them up, that's for sure.

Because they beat up on a team that beat all of 0 teams that made the playoffs this year lets not make them better than they are.

Cowboys winning in Minnesota and New Orleans(when the game means something to them) is going to be a VERY difficult task.

Cowboys have a great defense but their offense is shaky at best against teams that actually play defense:)

[cuervo72]

Like cheering when Michael Irvin is lying on his back with a career ending neck injury.

Not that I'm trying to condone this behavior, but I think Irvin elicited a reaction that might not have occurred had it been any other player. Once a boss of mine asked us at lunch to name our most hated sports figures. My answer was Michael Irvin, and my answer was immediate. Nobody else was even close. A similar "Top 5 Hated" question floated around Facebook not long ago, and over ten years later Irvin was still on lists.

I had respect for Aikman, Emmitt, Novacek, Johnston, etc. Irvin I always considered a self-aggrandizing jackass.

[Senator]

But he came from The U.

That makes anything he does or did ok, because, "hey we are The U."

At least that is what I learned on 30 for 30 on ESPN.

[Lathum]

Not that I'm trying to condone this behavior, but I think Irvin elicited a reaction that might not have occurred had it been any other player. Once a boss of mine asked us at lunch to name our most hated sports figures. My answer was Michael Irvin, and my answer was immediate. Nobody else was even close. A similar "Top 5 Hated" question floated around Facebook not long ago, and over ten years later Irvin was still on lists.

I had respect for Aikman, Emmitt, Novacek, Johnston, etc. Irvin I always considered a self-aggrandizing jackass.

I agree with this. I hate Irvin, always have and always will, but for a philly fan to get all indignant because another tea is being unsporting is absurd. I grew up in Jersey. Philly fans are by far the biggest group of scum I have ever been around. The argument that every fan base has some bad apples is nonsense. If that was the case than why don't people say chiefs fans are scum or Jags fans are assholes. Where there is smoke there is fire. Philly fans have such a shit name for a reason.

[Cringer]

I'm not sure what I get more enjoyment out of.... the Cowboys win or my house full of Packer friends that left disappointed that the Boys get a shot at Brett Favre before the Pack do... when they haven't even won their game tomorrow yet.

Funny, because as a Packer fan I did NOT want the Packers going to Minnesota for a playoff game unless it is the NFC Championship game (of course if they both make it that far). I would just prefer to skip over Packers vs. Favre for a third time this year, I am tired of it. The end of the season was very enjoyable with the two games behind us and over with. Of course I am in big Cowboys country and them winning makes the so-called fans down here very annoying, so I have already decided I will actually cheer on the Vikings next weekend because the fair-weather Cowboy fans need to be sent into hiding again.

[lungs]

Funny, because as a Packer fan I did NOT want the Packers going to Minnesota for a playoff game unless it is the NFC Championship game (of course if they both make it that far). I would just prefer to skip over Packers vs. Favre for a third time this year, I am tired of it. The end of the season was very enjoyable with the two games behind us and over with. Of course I am in big Cowboys country and them winning makes the so-called fans down here very annoying, so I have already decided I will actually cheer on the Vikings next weekend because the fair-weather Cowboy fans need to be sent into hiding again.

We've traded places, as I'm a Cowboy fan deep in the heart of Packer country.

Packer fans around here have quite an unusual Brett Favre fetish.

[RedKingGold]

Coming from the biggest blind homer on the board.

Stop, or I'm going to have to bump the early season NFL threads where Lathum declared the Giants to be the best team in the league. :D

[RedKingGold]

Newsflash: There are asshole fans who follow every team. They act like jackasses because they are jackasses. Those of our rivals just get more magnified because they follow....our rivals.

[ColtCrazy]

I'm not a big fan of Outside the Lines, so I turned it over to NFL Network for a bit. I keep forgetting I can't stand their hosts. Did they run out of self-absorbed athletes? Irvin? Sapp? Faulk? Only Deion is missing from the pantheon.

Stuck in the middle is Mariucci (sp) who seems like a complete idiot.

15 minutes until Sports Reporters...sigh

[Dr. Sak]

. The argument that every fan base has some bad apples is nonsense.

Thank you for making my point on my earlier post.

[Thomkal]

Let's go Cardinals!

[TrendNet]

Newsflash: There are asshole fans who follow every team. They act like jackasses because they are jackasses. Those of our rivals just get more magnified because they follow....our rivals.

True.

But Phildelphia fans bring it to a whole new level.

Like cheering when a player gets injured.

Taunting Joe Juervicious in the Bucs/Eagles playoff game after his son had died.

Or maybe it's something like this:

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But there are other games to be played...

So time for some beer.

[Lathum]

Thank you for making my point on my earlier post.

Sorry but I just don't see it. Not trying to be obtuse, but I really don't. Of course there are fans of every team who are assholes, but explain to me why on a national level Philly sports fans have such a poor image.

[Wolfpack]

I think the Santa Claus incident probably clinched it more than anything. It doesn't matter about the background to the actual event, it's the picture that people make in their minds from what they hear on the TV or radio. In this case, "Who in their right mind would boo Santa Claus?" Sprinkle in some reinforcing events, like the cheering of Irvin's injury, and Philly's reputation is cemented. Once that reputation started to harden about Philly's fans, some of them probably wore it as a badge of honor ("You think your team and fans are tough? Well, we booed Santa Claus!")

After all, there were incidents over the years such as snowballs and iceballs pelting the sidelines in both Cincinnati ("You don't live in Cleveland" anyone?) and the Meadowlands and that never really stuck to those fanbases. As things currently stand, it's increasingly difficult for fanbases to even approach Philadelphia's, er, "stature" because as sports money has exploded, so too has the cost of watching them, pricing out most of the fans who would typically be the source of harsh behavior, replaced by well-heeled wine-and-cheesers. I think it's even happening in Philly to some extent as their teams have all now switched to new venues in the last several years. I don't think Lincoln Financial Field has anywhere near the brutal reputation that the Vet had, for example.

[Comey]

Giants fans threw beer bottles at DeSean Jackson after Jackson scored a touchdown earlier this year. But that didn't get widely discussed, did it?

Philly sports fans have a poor image because people continue to perpetuate the stereotype and apply it to everyone. It doesn't apply to everyone. It never applied to everyone. But it became a media thing for a little while, and they continue to heap it on, even if it doesn't apply to 98% of the fanbase.

It's always the 2% that gives the rest of us the bad rap. People don't want to talk about people who are doing nothing.

There's a reason why I choose not to discuss sports with nearly anyone. It's because, since I'm a Philly fan, I'm an asshole. Sorry, but I'm not. Never have been, never will be. But I'm guilty of things a few other idiots did, and I don't get a chance to prove my innocence, thanks to things like the recent posts in this thread.

[Comey]

As far as the Santa incident (which happened nearly 50 years ago now), Santa was drunk. Visibly drunk. That's why he got booed. But people don't want to listen to that part of the story. No, it becomes, "Philly booed Santa". Santa wasn't being a good role model for children that day, because Santa was pretty drunk.

[Lathum]

Comey, I have no doubt you, Sak and Philliefan are great fans and great guys. I grew up less than an hour outside Philly and know many Philly fans who are great people and great fans. I get that it is a small percentage, but when people use the argument that other teams have an equal number of fans that behave equally as bad I don't buy it.

Maybe it is because of whre I grew up and maybe it is some personal experiences, but IMO there is a reason people have the perception they do.

I sincerely apologize if you or anyone else interpreted my comments as a personal attack, that wasn't my intention.

[RainMaker]

I've been to about half a dozen football stadiums for NFL games and can tell you that Veterans Stadium in Philly was the worst experience I've ever had at one. We weren't there to root for a particular team but I would have been scared to have been a Redskins fan at that game. There was a young couple sitting like 10 rows ahead in Redskins attire who literally had every insult thrown their way including beer, peanuts, etc. One guy kept yelling about how they were going to all rape his girl at halftime. This was literally a few rows from an usher who heard everything and didn't do anything.

Heard the N word thrown around like nothing (especially toward McNabb and one of the officials). Almost all the guys were extremely drunk and just lobbed obscenities everywhere. One guy two rows packed passed out and then proceeded to puke all over himself and the person in front of him. Instead of disgust, it was met by laughter. Any girl who walked across the front of the section had multiple guys yelling at them to "show us your tits". This included girls who were probably 13-14 years old with their parents.

Now I've been to a lot of sporting events and seen some shitty fans. Mostly just drunks who yell a lot or maybe try picking a fight. Usually the other fans in the section tell them to knock it off or an usher gets called in to escort them out. But I've never seen anything remotely close to that game in Philly. I guess for me the biggest difference in them and other cities is that they literally don't police their fans in anyway and you can do whatever you want. Like I said, it was only one game but I have never had an experience like that in the hundreds of events I've been to.

[Eaglesfan27]

When the Eagles played at Veterans stadium, it was very unlike any other Philly crowd for some reason. My grandfather would take me to Sixers, Phillies, and Flyers games when I was 4 or 5, but I couldn't go to an Eagles game in person until I was 12, because my grandfather knew that the Eagles and the Vet for some reason attempted to bring out the worst of the Philly sports fans. Tons of great fans in Philly and we all get stigmatized by the bad ones, but there are some bad fans everywhere.

[DaddyTorgo]

I've been to about half a dozen football stadiums for NFL games and can tell you that Veterans Stadium in Philly was the worst experience I've ever had at one. We weren't there to root for a particular team but I would have been scared to have been a Redskins fan at that game. There was a young couple sitting like 10 rows ahead in Redskins attire who literally had every insult thrown their way including beer, peanuts, etc. One guy kept yelling about how they were going to all rape his girl at halftime. This was literally a few rows from an usher who heard everything and didn't do anything.

Heard the N word thrown around like nothing (especially toward McNabb and one of the officials). Almost all the guys were extremely drunk and just lobbed obscenities everywhere. One guy two rows packed passed out and then proceeded to puke all over himself and the person in front of him. Instead of disgust, it was met by laughter. Any girl who walked across the front of the section had multiple guys yelling at them to "show us your tits". This included girls who were probably 13-14 years old with their parents.

Now I've been to a lot of sporting events and seen some shitty fans. Mostly just drunks who yell a lot or maybe try picking a fight. Usually the other fans in the section tell them to knock it off or an usher gets called in to escort them out. But I've never seen anything remotely close to that game in Philly. I guess for me the biggest difference in them and other cities is that they literally don't police their fans in anyway and you can do whatever you want. Like I said, it was only one game but I have never had an experience like that in the hundreds of events I've been to.

that's just...wow :eek:

[Eaglesfan27]

That was an exciting start to the game.

[DaddyTorgo]

ugh

[RainMaker]

Wow.

[DaddyTorgo]

seeya. i don't have much hope for this game at the moment

[dervack]

Well hopefully this game keeps going the way it goes so I'll be 3/4 of the way to a parlay.

[DaddyTorgo]

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE FUCKING PASS PROTECTION!?!!?!??!

[DaddyTorgo]

ballgame

[molson]

ballgame

I think that's FOFC record for calling a game. 5 minutes in?

It'd a just a tad early, IMO.

[DaddyTorgo]

I think that's FOFC record for calling a game. 5 minutes in?

It'd a just a tad early, IMO.

nah. i think raiders/lions fans have pregame called games.

no pass protection...1 first down in the first 8 minutes of the game...brady with busted ribs...already down 14-0...i haven't seen anything that inspires any confidence

:(

and now an interception. ready to call it now molson?

[RainMaker]

This is embarassing.

[DaddyTorgo]

i've officially switched to watching GolTV - Real Madrid vs. Mallorca

[Radii]

I think that's FOFC record for calling a game. 5 minutes in?

It'd a just a tad early, IMO.

You have to qualify this as the "non Jas_lov record" and then there's a chance that you're correct. :D

[Easy Mac]

Can we call it now?

[Eaglesfan27]

ballgame

I was going to post a similar response to Molson, but I think you're right now.

[RainMaker]

NFL is too odd a sport to call it this early. Takes a weird bounce on a fumble to change momentum. Not looking good for the Pats but I wouldn't turn it off yet.

[JonInMiddleGA]

So what time do the Patriots play today? I mean, the Ravens started about 1p but ...

[Calis]

This is borderline unbelievable.

Wow.

[RedKingGold]

Maybe people will forget how bad the Eagles looked last night if the Patriots lose by 51-0.

[RainMaker]

I have never seen a game go like this in the playoffs.

[kingfc22]

I picked Baltimore to win because I thought NE's defense was atrocious. I didn't expect THIS though.

WOW!

[molson]

Can we call it now?

Yes we can.

[molson]

This is one of those times as a sports fan where you find yourself looking around to see what your other teams are up to to make yourself feel better. I like Syracuse's chances against South Florida this afternoon.

[DaddyTorgo]

This is one of those times as a sports fan where you find yourself looking around to see what your other teams are up to to make yourself feel better. I like Syracuse's chances against South Florida this afternoon.

unfortunately i don't like Juventus' chances against AC Milan this afternoon, so i guess i'll watch the Real Madrid game and then something else entirely

[kingfc22]

That was never recovered.

[Eaglesfan27]

This is one of those times as a sports fan where you find yourself looking around to see what your other teams are up to to make yourself feel better. I like Syracuse's chances against South Florida this afternoon.

Agreed, watching this game is making me feel slightly better about the fiasco last night.

[kingfc22]

How was that not challenged?!?!

[Calis]

Why wouldn't they challenge that?

[Danny]

wow how do you not challenge that play.

[Philliesfan980]

Harbaugh is going to let this game slip away from him. You've heard it here first.

Him not challenging that play is going to be the turning point in the game. What a fucking idiot.

[Danny]

If New England does come back and win it that will be the play that turned it around. So stupid.

[Calis]

I get the feeling no one even told him, or said it wasn't worth it. Definite screw up by someone upstairs.

This is far from over.

[Easy Mac]

Brady, run you fucking pussy

[Philliesfan980]

Pats will win this game. Mark it down - and god I hate the Pats.

[Philliesfan980]

Another overly cocky white WR in the league.. just what we need. Dude, don't spike the ball like that, you're getting your ass kicked.

[kingfc22]

Again. How do you not challenge that play. Call a TO if you have to so you can get some more looks. It's the first half and you are up 24. The odds of needing all your timeouts is very low.

[Philliesfan980]

Again. How do you not challenge that play. Call a TO if you have to so you can get some more looks. It's the first half and you are up 24. The odds of needing all your timeouts is very low.

Dude, this is the same team that hired away our Special Teams coach (although I think he moved on to coach the DB's for one year). Not exactly that battle tested.

Still, he's going to get absolutely roasted when they lose the game (because they will lose this game now, there's no doubt in my mind).

[Tekneek]

Another overly cocky white WR in the league.. just what we need. Dude, don't spike the ball like that, you're getting your ass kicked.

No way. He just made a big statement, in a PLAYOFF game! WOOOO! He can't be bothered with the fact they are down by multiple scores and needed a fluke call to get a decent chance to score. He's on top of the WORLD!

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Ok, I'm a few minutes behind in this game(Brady just threw the pick to Reed) and had to comment on the kickoff... I had NEVER before seen a fair catch on a kickoff! Weird...

[pbot]

Harbaugh has wasted timeouts and made stupid challenges throughout the season...he's challenged plays that had no chance of being overturned.

Not challenging the punt was unreal.

[Lathum]

Lookout

[kingfc22]

Dun dun dun!

[Philliesfan980]

Like I said, this game is over. Just like the Pats were aided by a gift call in 2002, they'll be aided by a no-challenge here. In all honesty, the refs should have gotten the call right on the field, but to not challenge really shows this coach is horrible.

[Tekneek]

The press conference after this one will be awesome...and when they make it into a Coors Light commercial it will be even better. Go Harbaugh.

[Vince, Pt. II]

That first down measurement was one of the funniest things I've seen in a while. The ref even thought it was funny.

[Tekneek]

Like I said, this game is over. Just like the Pats were aided by a gift call in 2002, they'll be aided by a no-challenge here. In all honesty, the refs should have gotten the call right on the field, but to not challenge really shows this coach is horrible.

I don't really like the idea of having to challenge. I'd rather the league QA their own games and try to get it right on every play, rather than rely on coaches to force them to review.

[Philliesfan980]

Any team that runs the ball on a 3-13 like that is playing not to lose.. they will lose this game.

[Philliesfan980]

I really really, really hate this edleman guy.

[RainMaker]

Would it be a bad idea to bench Moss? I mean he's not even trying.

[Young Drachma]

Would it be a bad idea to bench Moss? I mean he's not even trying.

And replace him with...

[Cringer]

I think that's FOFC record for calling a game. 5 minutes in?

It'd a just a tad early, IMO.

You have to qualify this as the "non Jas_lov record" and then there's a chance that you're correct. :D


I think DT and this Philliesfan guy are kind of the ying and yang that make up Jas_lov, today anyways.

[JediKooter]

Oh good ol Randy showing his true colors again. It's just the playoffs man, no worries.

[Cringer]

And replace him with...

You mean they don't have clones for the black players, it's just the white guys then?

[Philliesfan980]

Flacco is such a stiff. He's this generations Steve Deberg.

[RainMaker]

And replace him with...
Someone who will try. Seems a waste of a player if he isn't going to try.

[jbergey22]

217 total yards between the two teams and they have 31 points combined. Thats crazy!

[jbergey22]

Someone who will try. Seems a waste of a player if he isn't going to try.

He's never a waste. Just by being out there he opens up the field for other players to make plays.

He could just stand there and be an asset.

[ColtCrazy]

Another overly cocky white WR in the league.. just what we need. Dude, don't spike the ball like that, you're getting your ass kicked.

Exactly why I appreciate Austin Collie. He seems to keep it in check.

[ColtCrazy]

dola - The Colts have to be licking their chops at the Ravens. Their offense is absolutely horrible. I can't believe Flacco gets so much respect as a QB.

And how happy would the Chargers be to play the Jets and not the Pats?

[dervack]

Looks like the Ravens are pissing this one away. They're the team in blue, right?

[ColtCrazy]

That may have been the slowest bootleg in NFL history.

[SirFozzie]

Plenty of Blame to go around. The line has fucking sucked, the receviers have fucking sucked (I think at least two of the INTs were off tipped balls), and Brady has zero time or trust in his WR :P

[Philliesfan980]

Plenty of Blame to go around. The line has fucking sucked, the receviers have fucking sucked (I think at least two of the INTs were off tipped balls), and Brady has zero time or trust in his WR :P

It doesn't matter. You guys will win because the Ravens are playing like pussies.

[ColtCrazy]

It doesn't matter. You guys will win because the Ravens are playing like pussies.

+1

I can't believe the Ravens are content to run and kick field goals and punt. It's a 2 score game with an entire quarter left. I'd almost be shocked if the Patriots DIDN'T come back.

[Philliesfan980]

I can hear that annoying Dropkick Murphy song being played already. Ugh....

[ColtCrazy]

Ravens need a killer instinct on this drive.

[Philliesfan980]

Flacco has that deer in headlights look all the time. Maybe it's just the way he is, who knows.

[ColtCrazy]

Flacco has that deer in headlights look all the time. Maybe it's just the way he is, who knows.

And the play calling for him is idiotic. Run, run, throw deep? Did Al Davis buy the team at halftime? There's no reason to take these shots down the field...dink and dunk and run will work and grind time.

Still, they have a chance here. FG does little, they need a TD

[Radii]

Still, they have a chance here. FG does little, they need a TD

Yeah, I totally disagree with that, 16 point lead is so so much better than 13. Sure you'd prefer the TD but getting 3 points and forcing the pats to not only score twice without giving up any more points but also get two 2 point conversions... huge difference.

[SirFozzie]

Oh well. It's been a not so horrible year.

Time to hope Welker's back for training camp. :(

[ISiddiqui]

The refs really didn't want to see the Ravens get extra points on this drive, eh? ;)

Two bad calls against the Ravens, both challenged... hopefully on the 2 pt they have a good angle to actually overturn the call on the field.

[Philliesfan980]

Oh well. It's been a not so horrible year.

Time to hope Welker's back for training camp. :(

As an Eagles fan, I feel your pain. I really thought you guys would come back and win this game after that no-challenge play.

[Matthean]

It's funny to read this thread and know the Ravens are actually winning by 19. At a glance, one would swear the Pats were winning.
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[gstelmack]

I think the Pats are in for a ton of tackling drills this offseason. What a sloppy performance...

[SirFozzie]

They'd better look for help on the offensive line. How many times did someone come in and completely disrupt the play a half second after the snap?

[mauchow]

PATS ARE GOING TO WIN. How many times in this thread did we see that after a big Pats benefited play?

Everyone needs to realize this isn't the same Patriots team from their Super Bowl runs. They had a mystique then but it's pretty obvious to me this year they just don't have that mystique.

[Galaril]

I think the Pats are in for a ton of tackling drills this offseason. What a sloppy performance...

The Pats problems in this game went well past poor tackling I am afraid to say. Lol.

[DaddyTorgo]

Oh well. It's been a not so horrible year.

Time to hope Welker's back for training camp. :(

are you kidding?

he'll be AT LEAST 10-12 months...more realistic given his playing style is that he could be on the field in 1 year but won't be back to 100% for 2 years

[RedKingGold]

So, how boring have these wildcard games been?

[ColtCrazy]

What an odd game. I've never seen the Patriots look so bad on both sides of the ball. It was obvious the Ravens could only run, yet the Patriots couldn't slow them down much. Offensively they never could get on track, though you have to imagine that if Welker was there the Patriots kill the pressure with quick passes to him.

Still, I was expecting the Pats to pull it together. Ravens got lucky by being so conservative after getting the lead. They can't expect to go up 24-0 again next week.

[gstelmack]

The Pats problems in this game went well past poor tackling I am afraid to say. Lol.

Oh, I agree, but I've missed big chunks of the game (daughter sick) and that was just the one big thing that surprised me given this coaching staff. Moss running about 60%, RBs missing blitz pickup, Brady not seeing DBs, there's plenty of blame to go around, that was just the biggie that surprised me. Merriweather doesn't usually get faked out of his shorts like Rice did to him on that big TD run.

[cuervo72]

So, how boring have these wildcard games been?

It's been pretty awful.

[Big Fo]

It was beautiful watching the Patriots get smacked around like that. The first quarter was one of the most enjoyable that didn't involve my own team I've seen in a long time. Baltimore made me nervous from that botched punt on with their conservatism and me thinking that the Pats offense might show up at one point, happily it didn't really.

[Karlifornia]

It's funny to read this thread and know the Ravens are actually winning by 19. At a glance, one would swear the Pats were winning.
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Seriously.

Did anyone see the CBS postgame show? They had this retarded part ith Jared Fogle, where he was standing behind a table with two Subway sandwiches on it. Then he began talking about their respective fat contents and ingredients. What a shitty show this is.

[Thomkal]

Okay just about all the "experts" have picked the Packers-reminds me of last year right about this time doesn't it? Will be tough without Boldin, but they won a playoff game without him last year. Go Cards!

[mauchow]

packers win easy..

edit: i have the option of changing this post around halftime...

[mauchow]

I might want to change my post already.

Rodgers with an idiotic play to open up the game. What is the guy thinking?

[Thomkal]

woohoo, that's the way to start Cards!

[Eaglesfan27]

packers win easy..

edit: i have the option of changing this post around halftime...

No you don't ;)

Nice interception.. not a good return.