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Swaggs

08-30-2010, 12:04 PM

It's just about that time. :)

Some of the more interesting games of the week for me:

Thurs:
Pitt @ Utah -- 8:30 PM
USC @ Hawaii -- 11:00 PM
(Miami and Ohio State also have games on Thurs)

Sat:
Illiniois vs Mizzou
Purdue @ ND
UConn @ Michigan
UCLA @ KSU
Washington @ BYU
Oregon State @ TCU
LSU vs UNC

I know I'm a Big East homer, but I'm really looking forward to Pitt/Utah and UConn/Michigan. Those two should be good measuring sticks for the conference. I think LSU vs UNC could be a good, old fashioned, black and blue game. Will be interesting to see if the Brian Kelly magic continues at ND.

Swaggs

08-30-2010, 12:08 PM

For the Big East, Rutgers/WVU/USF all play subdivision teams and should hopefully have few problems.

The rest of the conference has a pretty tough slate and I can easily envision the conference taking it on the chin in week one.

As mentioned, Pitt and UConn play pretty tough road games.

Louisville hosts Kentucky.
Syracuse somehow managed to schedule a road game against Akron.
And Cincy will travel across the country to play Fresno State.

MacroGuru

08-30-2010, 12:09 PM

Lathum

08-30-2010, 12:14 PM

Really looking forward to how we ( U of Washington) plays BYU. It is a really big game for us. We get Syracuse at home in week 2, but then have Nebraska and USC back to back. We get Nebraska at home, so a win against BYU sets up a pretty sweet matchup in week 3 against the Huskers.

Lathum

08-30-2010, 12:15 PM

MacroGuru

08-30-2010, 12:21 PM

What do you think about playing us this weekend? What is the pulse of BYU nation?

I am excited...it's a big game I feel that will set the tone for us for the rest of the season. We have an extremely talented team but they are young.

As far as Cougar nation and their pulse they feel almost like I do. A lot of people feel we will win because it's a home game. I am more concerned at the fact mobile QB's like Locker tend to kill us. But I truly feel it's a game we can win...just have to play smart.

If Sarks is smart he lets his coordinators help with this game. I feel his emotions will get a hold of him more than the USC game. Especially since BYU is bringing all their great QB's back for a presentation at half time.

molson

08-30-2010, 12:37 PM

And in the quirky world of the dominant non-bcs schools, Boise St.'s season really all comes down to its Monday night game v. Virginia Tech.

Personally, I'm looking forward to traveling out to Seattle for Syracuse's game with Washington next week. I'm not sure they last time they played within 1,000 miles where I live now. It will likely be ugly for the Orange, though they have pretty good record in games I've attended over the years, which obviously proves a direct correlation between my presence and Orange success.

Swaggs

08-30-2010, 12:56 PM

I think Syracuse will be a little better this year, but they have no depth. They could give Washington a game, but factoring in the travel will make it tough on them.

Lathum

08-30-2010, 12:58 PM

Izulde

08-30-2010, 01:12 PM

Wisconsin/UNLV should be a surreal experience, seeing my home state team against my school in Sin City. Logic says the Badgers will kick the crap out of the Rebels, who are in Coach Hauck's first season.

My gut says that it will be a very close game and UNLV could pull off the upset, because the Badgers chronically let down in games like this in the Bielema era.

BYU 14

08-30-2010, 01:21 PM

Thursday can not come fast enough for me.

I am just excited College Football is starting.

Obviously I am a BYU / Utah homer (More BYU than anything) I want to see Utah succeed every game this season except for the BYU game because Kalani is their DC.

Really, with BYU announcing the 2 QB system I am really wondering how that will pan out this season or if they eventually shift to an all Heaps or all Nielsen system.

I am pretty convinced that this will continue through the FSU game to let Heaps get his feet wet and not have to shoulder all the pressure of some big non-conference games early. After that I see Heaps taking over, with Nelson getting some specialty reps in wildcat sets.

I could be way off, but I think Bronco looked at the way Whit moved Jordan Wynn into the starting spot last year and is hoping to follow the same blueprint.

Chief Rum

08-30-2010, 01:35 PM

dawgfan

08-30-2010, 02:15 PM

Admittedly, though, I am biased.
In other news, Lance Bass is gay.

;)

Karlifornia

08-30-2010, 02:17 PM

UCLA doesn't have the firepower to win many games going away, unless they're a drastically different team than they have been.

dawgfan

08-30-2010, 02:19 PM

Already getting excited for Saturday. From a pure talent level perspective, I think Washington matches up well with BYU, but home field should be a pretty big advantage for the Cougars what with the noise and the elevation. It's a game that Washington can certainly win, but as the spread shows, it's also a game they could easily lose. They have to prove they can win on the road, and this is a stern test.

Win the game, and the Locker Heisman campaign stays legit; lose, and things get really tough for him. I think the only hope he has of winning a Heisman will rest on getting Gameday out to Seattle for the Nebraska game, and that's only a possibility if the Huskies go into that game 2-0.

Regardless of the Heisman talk, it should be fun watching the Husky offense operate this year with a full year of Sark's system under their belts and almost everyone back. The defense is much more of a question mark, and it will be very interesting to see how they look.

Karlifornia

08-30-2010, 02:25 PM

The PAC-10 is gonna be a fun one this year. Some fearless predictions:

-Either Washington, UCLA, or ASU wins 8 games this year.

-Washington State goes winless again in conference

-No California teams finish in the top three of the conference

-Andrew Luck's yards, TD's and INT's all increase.

-Jake Locker is Conference POY

-Oregon State will win the Civil War

dawgfan

08-30-2010, 02:28 PM

-Washington State goes winless again in conference
Much as it pains me to say it, I think the Cougs will catch a Pac-10 team sleeping this year and win. I doubt they'll have more than 2 wins - Montana State is their lone gimme - but I think they're starting to get back to at least resembling a college football team again, and there are some potentially vulnerable Pac-10 teams that the Cougs could upset.

I. J. Reilly

08-30-2010, 03:15 PM

I’m pretty frickin’ jacked for this weekend; it’s not often the Beavs get down to this neck of the woods, let alone virtually in my backyard. It’s going to be a busy weekend, friends and family start showing up on Thursday.

As for the game, I think the 12 point spread is about right. TCU is really, really good and OSU hasn’t exactly exploded out of the gate in past years. All of the preseason press has centered on whether Ryan Katz can take over at QB, but with so many good players back around him I’m not worried about the offense. Defense may be another story though; having two starters quite in the offseason to be with their families has caused some problems. The guys stepping in are going to be good, but it will take some time to get them up to speed.

Regardless of what happens on the field, it’s going to be a hell of a fun day.

Chief Rum

08-30-2010, 03:27 PM

UCLA doesn't have the firepower to win many games going away, unless they're a drastically different team than they have been.

You need to study up on UCLA a little more, I think. If they stumble on offense, it won't be because of talent or "firepower". They return three of their top four WRs and add Ricky Marvray, who has been incredible in practice, and an electric athlete in former CU Buffalo in Josh Smith. They lost two solid but mistake-prone TEs in Moya and Paulsen and replace them with Notre Dame transfer Joseph Fauria and an increased role for Cory Harkey, who was often better than the seniors he is replacing. They return their top two RBs and added the #5 and #6 RBs in the nation, including the Gatorade National Player of the Year in Malcolm Jones (and Jones is already making a big impression). The new offense features a position called the F-Back, a hybrid FB/TE position out of which another super frosh Anthony Barr has more or less been starring in practice. And by all reports, Prince has turned himself into a strong armed passer who has a very strong grasp of the offense.

There is a ton of firepower at UCLA. The question will be whether an experienced line will hold up after all the injury issues that have hit it the past few months. If the line holds up and Prince stays healthy (another big if), this offense is going to score some points.

Matthean

08-30-2010, 03:53 PM

UConn @ Michigan will be interesting as hell. Michigan already has ND and the rest of the Big Ten schedule to deal with and RR to me needs at least 7 wins to keep the pitchforks at bay.

Chief Rum

08-30-2010, 06:08 PM

You need to study up on UCLA a little more, I think. If they stumble on offense, it won't be because of talent or "firepower". They return three of their top four WRs and add Ricky Marvray, who has been incredible in practice, and an electric athlete in former CU Buffalo in Josh Smith. They lost two solid but mistake-prone TEs in Moya and Paulsen and replace them with Notre Dame transfer Joseph Fauria and an increased role for Cory Harkey, who was often better than the seniors he is replacing. They return their top two RBs and added the #5 and #6 RBs in the nation, including the Gatorade National Player of the Year in Malcolm Jones (and Jones is already making a big impression). The new offense features a position called the F-Back, a hybrid FB/TE position out of which another super frosh Anthony Barr has more or less been starring in practice. And by all reports, Prince has turned himself into a strong armed passer who has a very strong grasp of the offense.

There is a ton of firepower at UCLA. The question will be whether an experienced line will hold up after all the injury issues that have hit it the past few months. If the line holds up and Prince stays healthy (another big if), this offense is going to score some points.

Addendum: I think that, until proven otherwise, Karl, you're right about UCLA offense not pulling away with respect to many games against the Pac 10; they have to earn that more on the field before we can say that.

My (hopeful) prediction of pulling away from KState isn't just based on the above, but also on the lack of tape KState will have on UCLA running the Pistol (which the Pac 10 will have) and the issues KState has on defense, which includes being massively undersized in comparison to the UCLA front line, and starting converted running backs and wide receivers at some spots or completely new to D1 fresh-faced players at others, issues that affect KState's line, two LB spots and both corner spots, all very key issues in Week 1. Some of the advantages UCLA might have are directly related to the fact it's Week 1. They won't much enjoy those advantages again after that (so they'll have to prove it with talent and production, which I hope they'll be able to do).

tarcone

08-30-2010, 06:52 PM

the_meanstrosity

08-30-2010, 07:05 PM

Saturday's going to be an interesting day for UCLA.

Everyone picking the game seems to be going with K-State and K-State strong, because it's in Kansas, and because UCLA has been blitzed with injuries to its O-line, lost it's best defensive end and only returning starter on the D-line, and it's possible it will be the second string QB as well.

I can't really argue with any of those facts, but I really feel the people making predictions (as expected, there are a lot of teams to try to follow) aren't looking close enough at UCLA. I don't think they realize that three straight high quality recruiting classes have stocked the UCLA roster with size and speed, and what had been a very young squad in 2008 & 2009 is now a much more tested and physically grown team with juniors and redshirt sophomores as leaders and starters. And they will also be throwing out the Pistol offense, which KState won't have been able to scout, short of checking out Nevada game tape.

Toss on top of that that KState had its own graduation losses, got to a bowl in 2009 basically with the help of a crap OOC schedule and playing the Big 12 North, and is just physically much smaller and probably slower as well than UCLA, and I suspect UCLA will end up winning this one going away (probably a tight score in the first half, but a 2 TD lead by the end of the game).

Admittedly, though, I am biased.

KSU was not bowl eligible last season since they needed seven wins rather than the usual six because of their having two FCS opponents on their schedule. The thing that will be dangerous for UCLA is that KSU played much better at home then they did on the road. I'm guessing that's one reason KSU is getting so much love against UCLA.

I haven't seen UCLA, but if they can stop the run then they have a shot at beating KSU. Daniel Thomas is one of the best runners in the Big 12 so it's easier said than done. KSU's receiving corps has some athletes, but none of them are proven receivers and the KSU QB's job is to simply not turn the ball over. On defense, KSU has a couple of playmakers, but very little depth. UCLA needs to strike early to get the crowd out of the game and force KSU to throw the ball. Definitely do not underestimate KSU. They have a knack for playing to their strengths and coming away with wins at home.

duckman

08-31-2010, 12:25 PM

Wowser:

Mark Ingram of Alabama Crimson Tide has knee injury, ruled out against San Jose State - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5515780)

Kodos

08-31-2010, 12:36 PM

Indiana hosts Towson this Thursday. We had better smash them to pieces, or I'll be worried.

Lathum

08-31-2010, 05:02 PM

Masoli ruled ineligible. The NCAA finally got something correct.

Matthean

08-31-2010, 05:19 PM

Wowser:

Mark Ingram of Alabama Crimson Tide has knee injury, ruled out against San Jose State - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5515780)

One of the rare times I can go, "meh." Not that it isn't important, but 'Bama has a back up that many consider to be even better and there's depth behind even him. It becomes a bigger issue if it lingers as the season goes on.

mckerney

08-31-2010, 05:41 PM

Minnesota is not a sure bet. They should be thanking their lucky stars MTSUs QB got arrested and suspended for the season. Minny may win now.

If Minnesota's offensive line has improved a bit they should beat MTSU, and I think they would even if Dasher were playing. The offensive line is what killed them last year and should be improved, how much better the offensive line is will be the biggest factor in determining how well Minnesota does this year.

DeToxRox

08-31-2010, 05:44 PM

Big10 schedule will see a few losses.

Uconn should beat Michigan. RR is already gone. From what I understand he was set up to fail. Unless he wins a National championship he will be fired.

Minnesota is not a sure bet. They should be thanking their lucky stars MTSUs QB got arrested and suspended for the season. Minny may win now.

Illinois will be lucky to stay within 21 of Missouri.

Other then that, it should be a cake walk for the best conference in the world.

I hope Boise St loses.
I hope Navy wins.
I think Kansas ST will beat UCLA>

If Michigan can run the ball they'll win. UConn is a very solid team but also very overrated. Their D is vastly overrated from last year. Taken from a UM forum:

Their FBS opponents (12) averaged out to be the 73.55 best rushing teams in the nation.

Ohio -- 102
UNC -- 79
Baylor -- 108
Pitt -- 34
Louisville -- 89
WVU -- 24
Rutgers -- 78
Cincinnati -- 69
Notre Dame -- 84
Syracuse -- 87
South Florida -- 38
South Carolina -- 91

Against the top three rushing team, WVU, Pitt and S. Florida this is how the Huskies fared:

WVU 234 yds on 40 carries
Pitt 214 yds on 42 carries
S. Fl 193 yds on 44 carries

Against Rhode Island they allowed 29 yds on 32 carries.

We should be able to run on them and do enough in the air to keep them off balance.

Doesn't mean I expect more then 8-4 at best on the year, but considering the actual talent we'll have come 2011, I sure hope it gets figured out this year.

MJ4H

08-31-2010, 06:06 PM

Masoli ruled ineligible. The NCAA finally got something correct.

in other news: lol

Lathum

08-31-2010, 06:11 PM

in other news: lol

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MJ4H

08-31-2010, 06:14 PM

?

Sorry, I just wish bad things on Ole Miss lately. Forgive me.

dawgfan

08-31-2010, 06:24 PM

Masoli ruled ineligible. The NCAA finally got something correct.
Did they?

Lathum

08-31-2010, 06:27 PM

Did they?

I think so.

IMO if you allow a kid who is a total creep to the point where he gets kicked off his team to transfer to another school and be allowed to play it sets a bad precedent.

dawgfan

08-31-2010, 06:49 PM

I think so.

IMO if you allow a kid who is a total creep to the point where he gets kicked off his team to transfer to another school and be allowed to play it sets a bad precedent.
If the NCAA had clear rules about player behavior expectations off the field, then I'd agree with you. But that's unlikely to happen - the NCAA defers to member institutions to govern themselves in that regard.

If it's a legitimate ruling in regard to his academic eligibility, then job well done by the NCAA. But if they used this ruling as a way to pass moral judgment, then I think they are taking a step into policing something that isn't their domain.

If you want to be mad at anyone, be mad at Ole Miss for taking him on.

Lathum

08-31-2010, 07:07 PM

If the NCAA had clear rules about player behavior expectations off the field, then I'd agree with you. But that's unlikely to happen - the NCAA defers to member institutions to govern themselves in that regard.

If it's a legitimate ruling in regard to his academic eligibility, then job well done by the NCAA. But if they used this ruling as a way to pass moral judgment, then I think they are taking a step into policing something that isn't their domain.

If you want to be mad at anyone, be mad at Ole Miss for taking him on.

I'm not "mad" about anything, and I do think Ole Miss needs some blame, as does the whole win at all costs institution. All this kid is learning is that you can break the rules but it is ok if you run really fast and can throw a ball.

dawgfan

08-31-2010, 07:13 PM

All this kid is learning is that you can break the rules but it is ok if you run really fast and can throw a ball.
That is somewhat true. But that isn't strictly the NCAA's fault. And it's not completely true, because he will be subject to whatever judgment is rendered in the theft case, just like anyone else would be.

All I'm saying is that the NCAA should not be exceeding their boundaries. I think it would be highly difficult for them to write up a code of conduct for all NCAA athletes beyond just the basics - this isn't a private, professional league we're talking about here. If there was some element of moral judgment influencing their ruling on his academic eligibility at Mississippi, that's wrong IMO.

RainMaker

08-31-2010, 07:22 PM

And in the quirky world of the dominant non-bcs schools, Boise St.'s season really all comes down to its Monday night game v. Virginia Tech.
If they take out VT, they have a solid chance of playing in the BCS Championship game.

Dr. Sak

08-31-2010, 07:49 PM

I think so.

IMO if you allow a kid who is a total creep to the point where he gets kicked off his team to transfer to another school and be allowed to play it sets a bad precedent.

Look what they let happen with coaches. A coach can ruin a school with sanctions...leave for another and start all over.

Swaggs

08-31-2010, 08:04 PM

Masoli isn't being punished because of his behavior or for being kicked off of another team, as far as I can tell. He simply applied for a waiver so that he would not have to sit out a season as a transfer and it was denied.

There was a rule that briefly existed a few seasons ago, where you could transfer to another school with immediate eligibility if you had already earned a degree (which Masoli had) and wanted to pursue a master's degree in a discipline that did not exist at your current school. They closed that loophole after just a season or two (if I recall correctly), but have allowed people to apply for and granted them immediate eligibility.

Not so for Masoli, it appears.

bhlloy

08-31-2010, 08:22 PM

Damn, does this mean he won't be able to get his masters in Parks and Recreation now? The NCAA is ruining this kids future.

DeToxRox

08-31-2010, 09:20 PM

Jason Forcier was denied this same waiver last year trying to go from Stanford back to Michigan while enrolling in a grad program there.

sovereignstar

08-31-2010, 09:27 PM

Minnesota is not a sure bet. They should be thanking their lucky stars MTSUs QB got arrested and suspended for the season. Minny may win now.

Arrested and suspended for the season? Um, no.

tarcone

08-31-2010, 09:45 PM

Arrested and suspended for the season? Um, no.

Ok. He is part of an ongoing investigation by police for trying to repay a $1500 loan he "received" from an 80 year old guy. He tried to "repay" the loan by stealing a teammates checks.

He is only suspended for 30% of the season so far. This is for violating NCAA regulations concerning his amateurism.

If any of this is true, he will be suspended for the season. You cannot keep a guy on your team that no one trusts.

Chief Rum

09-01-2010, 12:51 AM

You know, this is the second reference to "MTSU" in this thread that I have seen today. Last I checked, MTSU stands for Middle Tennessee State University. Also last time I checked, they were of no importance whatsoever. Why is MTSU not only getting mentions, but even what sounds like respect? Did I miss something?

bhlloy

09-01-2010, 02:13 AM

Jason Forcier was denied this same waiver last year trying to go from Stanford back to Michigan while enrolling in a grad program there.

Yeah, the rule is pretty cut and dried that this is not a way for a player who has been dismissed from a team to transfer right away. They closed that loophole and I have no idea why Ole Miss is so confident they are going to win this. But I'm no lawyer and have been wrong on these before.

Oh and Houston Nutt just STFU. A lot of college coaches are shameless but really - "We're in the people helping business"? Was he in the people helping business when he told Masoli where to go before his starting QB transferred?

Atocep

09-01-2010, 02:17 AM

Oh and Houston Nutt just STFU. A lot of college coaches are shameless but really - "We're in the people helping business"?

Also coming from the coach that would sign 50 kids per year if the SEC would let him. He just loves helping people out.

DeToxRox

09-01-2010, 11:54 AM

DeToxRox

09-01-2010, 12:10 PM

Holy shit.

Iowa's center is out for the season after this moped accident:

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Lathum

09-01-2010, 12:14 PM

Jesus, whoever was driving that truck better lose their license for a long time...

FWIW the sporting news is reporting he had no serious injuries (amazingly) and is only out Saturday.

DeToxRox

09-01-2010, 12:16 PM

Jesus, whoever was driving that truck better lose their license for a long time...

FWIW the sporting news is reporting he had no serious injuries (amazingly) and is only out Saturday.

I saw the initial report he was out just for Saturday. Something came out and said the season now. Not sure the credibility of it though.

dawgfan

09-01-2010, 08:31 PM

A couple of columns addressing the NCAA's denial of Masoli's waiver request to play this season:

http://www.registerguard.com/csp/cms/sites/web/sports/25241787-41/masoli-ncaa-miss-schroeder-football.csp
http://blogs.ajc.com/barnhart-college-football/2010/09/01/ncaa-wrong-on-masoli-ruling/

tarcone

09-01-2010, 08:41 PM

Iowa OL Josh Koeppels moped accident. He suffered scrapes and bruises is all. Thank God.

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Atocep

09-01-2010, 08:54 PM

Iowa OL Josh Koeppels moped accident. He suffered scrapes and bruises is all. Thank God.

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If you think that's crazy you should see the video on page 1.

larrymcg421

09-01-2010, 08:58 PM

Page 2 is love. Page 1 is not.

tarcone

09-01-2010, 09:18 PM

Didnt see that. Sorry for the re-post. :)

The Iowa City PD is not happy. Someones head is going to roll.

hxxp://hawkcentral.com/2010/09/01/iowa-football-police-investigating-leak-of-josh-koeppel-crash-video/

So I added a little. :)

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-01-2010, 09:21 PM

schadjoe

Missouri RB Derrick Washington "permanantly suspended" from program

Also saw this on another forum with it

GabeDeArmond

#Mizzou has announced Derrick Washington has been "permanently suspended." He will not return to the Tiger football team.

Poor MBBF, now people are just piling on:

ChipBrownOB

Rough month for #Mizzou with Washington being kicked off team, and 3 others involved in DWI-related arrests, including an asst coach.

Related to the DWI's, it's actually very surprising that these kids are doing something like that. It's well known that the police target the students. Stupid kids being stupid kids I suppose.

I'm excited to see Kendial Lawrence get the ball as the starter. Certainly a loss to lose Washington, but Lawrence has a ton of talent and could easily make us forget about Washington.

Ron Zook is going to be sending out the 2-9 defense that Navy employed in the bowl game last year. He tried this defense once before and Mizzou handled it well. We'll see if they have any better success this time. Lawrence is a speedster and could tear that two-man defensive line to shreds.

tarcone

09-01-2010, 09:30 PM

Page 2 is love. Page 1 is not.

The entire law is summed up in a single command 'Love your neighbor as yourself."
Galatians 5:14

tarcone

09-01-2010, 09:32 PM

Related to the DWI's, it's actually very surprising that these kids are doing something like that. It's well known that the police target the students. Stupid kids being stupid kids I suppose.

I'm excited to see Kendial Lawrence get the ball as the starter. Certainly a loss to lose Washington, but Lawrence has a ton of talent and could easily make us forget about Washington.

Ron Zook is going to be sending out the 2-9 defense that Navy employed in the bowl game last year. He tried this defense once before and Mizzou handled it well. We'll see if they have any better success this time. Lawrence is a speedster and could tear that two-man defensive line to shreds.

Will Lawrence be able to handle the blitz? Is the spread, if not, it will be a long night.

Logan

09-01-2010, 10:00 PM

It's well known that the police target the students.

For shame!

Poli

09-01-2010, 10:06 PM

This just in: It's well known that the sky is blue.

Tigercat

09-01-2010, 10:51 PM

Looks like there is a possibility of UNC having a big hole in its team when they play LSU Saturday. Although the reliability of the information ESPN corespondents put on their twitter has been questionable as of late, here is what Joe Schad has heard tonight:

North Carolina leaves for Atlanta at 9:30 a.m. on Fri. The school may know by they which players cannot play and which held for precaution.
43 minutes ago via web

North Carolina may be wiped out complely at RB against LSU
about 1 hour ago via web

Star North Carolina DE Robert Quinn is being investigated for possible illegal interaction with an agent
about 1 hour ago via web

North Carolina is exploring the possibility of rolling suspensions spread over multiple games
about 1 hour ago via web

North Carolina is preparing to go without up to 16 players vs. LSU
about 1 hour ago via web

Radii

09-02-2010, 01:05 AM

Looks like there is a possibility of UNC having a big hole in its team when they play LSU Saturday.

Going back to the end of last week there was lots of local chatter concerning the fact that UNC may have as few as 5 and as many as 15 or more players out for the LSU game due to all the shit coming out. Early this week I caught a short segment on local sports talk radio talking about how Butch Davis didn't release a depth chart or discuss any individual players in the media info they usually put out on Monday's before a game, with most assuming the reason for this was that there were many suspensions to come before the game. As of yesterday at least I had seen a couple sports betting sites weren't releasing a line on the UNC/LSU game, also presumably for this reason. Everyone around here seems to be thinking that anyone possibly linked to the academic scandal is going to sit out until the investigation is over, and that most likely there is a LOT of the starting defense on that list.

cartman

09-02-2010, 06:58 AM

FINALLY!!!!

Time for kickoff gents! I even woke up early today, even though the first game isn't until tonight!

CU Tiger

09-02-2010, 07:48 AM

Going back to the end of last week there was lots of local chatter concerning the fact that UNC may have as few as 5 and as many as 15 or more players out for the LSU game due to all the shit coming out. Early this week I caught a short segment on local sports talk radio talking about how Butch Davis didn't release a depth chart or discuss any individual players in the media info they usually put out on Monday's before a game, with most assuming the reason for this was that there were many suspensions to come before the game. As of yesterday at least I had seen a couple sports betting sites weren't releasing a line on the UNC/LSU game, also presumably for this reason. Everyone around here seems to be thinking that anyone possibly linked to the academic scandal is going to sit out until the investigation is over, and that most likely there is a LOT of the starting defense on that list.

maybe whatever punishment is ultimately levied against UNC, someone can petition the ACC to add another year to it...

whomario

09-02-2010, 07:57 AM

Ksyrup

09-02-2010, 07:59 AM

What's the likelihood of rolling suspensions? I'm trying to recall what FSU did when "tutor-gate" happened. I know they pulled everyone involved from the 2008 Music City Bowl (25+ players, as I recall), and then they doled out 3 or 4 game suspensions to start the 2008 season. What I don't recall is if they tried or were allowed to use rolling suspensions at the start of that year. I seem to think they just pulled them all for the first 3-4 games of the year.

Ksyrup

09-02-2010, 08:01 AM

Can someone explain to me why the truck drivers name
is published in full ? (and not John L. or sth)

Police release details on Koeppel accident, video leak | GazetteOnline.com (http://gazetteonline.com/blogs/docs-office/2010/09/01/police-release-details-on-koeppel-accident-video-leak)

hasn´t got anything to do with football, but i´m curious if that´s legal by US (or state) laws ?

Not that he doesn´t deserve to get some crap for it, but still seems weird ...

I don't find it weird. They probably just got that info off the police report. Most local traffic incidents that get put on the news at night have the names of all those involved mentioned, even if there are no arrests.

Lathum

09-02-2010, 08:36 AM

Can someone explain to me why the truck drivers name
is published in full ? (and not John L. or sth)

Police release details on Koeppel accident, video leak | GazetteOnline.com (http://gazetteonline.com/blogs/docs-office/2010/09/01/police-release-details-on-koeppel-accident-video-leak)

hasn´t got anything to do with football, but i´m curious if that´s legal by US (or state) laws ?

Not that he doesn´t deserve to get some crap for it, but still seems weird ...

One of the lawyers on the board can correct me, but I believe if it is a matter of public record his name can be published as long as he isn't a minor.

Thomkal

09-02-2010, 08:42 AM

Clearly my local team Coastal Carolina is going to upset West Virginia this week....okay maybe not. Just hope we can avoid any major injuries and some intriguing storylines from the preseason-our newly found strength at TE and ongoing strength in the secondary show up in some part during the game and not in a bad way.

MacroGuru

09-02-2010, 08:46 AM

I found this quote that sums my feelings up...I can't wait..

"If my mother put on a helmet and shoulder pads and a uniform that wasn't the same as the one I was wearing, I'd run over her if she was in my way. And I love my mother."
--- Bo Jackson

Mizzou B-ball fan

09-02-2010, 08:47 AM

Will Lawrence be able to handle the blitz? Is the spread, if not, it will be a long night.

Lawrence is a more elusive runner than Washington. Even if they send three blitzers out of that 2-9 defense, you've still only got five to block. The intent of the Illinois defense won't be to pressure the QB. Gabbert could have 8-10 seconds to throw the ball on several plays in this game. It's just that there's going to be DB's everywhere downfield. But if Mizzou gets a few good runs against that 2 man line, they'll be forced to come up.

MrBug708

09-02-2010, 10:22 AM

Uona Kaveinga officially lost his appeal to play this year for BYU.

JonInMiddleGA

09-02-2010, 10:56 AM

I believe if it is a matter of public record his name can be published as long as he isn't a minor.

Pretty much

JeeberD

09-02-2010, 10:58 AM

UTEP RB Donald Buckram, the second leading returning rusher in the nation, suffered a knee injury during practice yesterday. He's scheduled for an MRI today...hopefully it's nothing too serious.

BishopMVP

09-02-2010, 02:55 PM

I touched on this briefly in a different thread, but #4 William & Mary is playing at UMass this weekend (In D1 terms, that's about equal to Florida@Auburn) to kick off the season. Now, while I do like the playoff for FCS, for proponents of the system this is exactly the type of early season game that is rendered fairly meaningless by the playoff system, since each can lose 3-4 games and still make it. I'm personally a lot more interested in the outcome of games like OSU/TCU, Boise/VT, even Notre Dame/Purdue because of their potential implications on the national title picture.

Ksyrup

09-02-2010, 03:18 PM

So we'd get a great early season matchup AND 2 top-tier teams' seasons wouldn't automatically be on life support if they lose the game... and that's not a plus for a playoff system?

BishopMVP

09-02-2010, 03:45 PM

So we'd get a great early season matchup AND 2 top-tier teams' seasons wouldn't automatically be on life support if they lose the game... and that's not a plus for a playoff system?All I'm saying is that it has its tradeoffs. The intensity and importance of the games that are actually happening this week would be severely diminished. For any team wanting a shot now in D1A, 1 loss significantly hurts or kills your chances, and a 2nd certainly does, so any loss is devastating (and conversely, every win against a real opponent is invigorating.) If Florida State could afford to lose 3 games, I'm guessing your level of excitement for each game would go down.

(And the early season matchups wouldn't change - UMass/W&M are in the same conference, the CAA just chooses to actually schedule real games week 1 unlike the SEC or most D1A conferences.)

tarcone

09-02-2010, 06:01 PM

Who you watchin'?

BishopMVP

09-02-2010, 06:14 PM

Pitt @ Utah at 830pm is the highlight of the night, but I'll be checking out Southern Miss@Sakarlina (730) and USC@Hawaii (1100) on ESPN until they become blowouts. ESPN does have superior coverage, even when blowhards like Craig James are involved in the broadcast booth. Rhode Island is @ Buffalo, and maybe with a win they won't drop football in the next 2 years, but Villanova@Temple tomorrow and Richmond@UVa on Sat are the CAA's best chances to win a game vs an FBS team this week.

MacroGuru

09-02-2010, 06:32 PM

Honestly...Mark May is a homer...and not because he picked against BYU (He already hates us and will pick against us no matter what)

Anyways, they were talking about Boise and how if they run the table do they deserve a spot in the NC...Mark was saying no...Lou was saying absolutely, they are starting the season ranked 3 and if they go undefeated they will and should...Mark said a 1 loss SEC, Big 12 or Big 10 team would get in before...

Lathum

09-02-2010, 06:35 PM

ESPN3 + Mosaic= EPIC!!

tarcone

09-02-2010, 07:13 PM

Great. Severe weather rolling thru my area. Means I will lose my directv.
Guess Espn3 is on tap tonight.

wade moore

09-02-2010, 07:21 PM

ESPN3 + Mosaic= EPIC!!

Yeah - first time using mosaic - awesome.

panerd

09-02-2010, 07:33 PM

Great. Severe weather rolling thru my area. Means I will lose my directv.
Guess Espn3 is on tap tonight.

About 10 miles down 44 from you. Same thing about to happen here. :(

Wolfpack

09-02-2010, 07:34 PM

maybe whatever punishment is ultimately levied against UNC, someone can petition the ACC to add another year to it...

...and extend it to all the other athletics programs. And, give the basketball program a lifetime ban while we're at it. (Seriously, this whole thing is coming undone because it's the football program. Roy could have mass murderers on his basketball team and nothing would come of it.)

wade moore

09-02-2010, 07:54 PM

No offense to the Rutgers fans on the board - but W&M played @ NSU last year and I was there. They're not good, at ALL. THis would worry me if I was a Rutgers fan.

tarcone

09-02-2010, 07:56 PM

About 10 miles down 44 from you. Same thing about to happen here. :(

Are you in St Clair?

JonInMiddleGA

09-02-2010, 08:09 PM

Georgia State leads Shorter College 20-0 at the half of the Panthers first ever football game.

panerd

09-02-2010, 08:24 PM

Are you in St Clair?

Eureka.

tarcone

09-02-2010, 08:34 PM

Eureka.

Wow. You are like 5 minutes away. Thats crazy.

JonInMiddleGA

09-02-2010, 08:42 PM

JonInMiddleGA

09-02-2010, 08:43 PM

Rhode Island is @ Buffalo, and maybe with a win they won't drop football in the next 2 years,

3:34 left Q3
Buffalo 31
Rhode Island 0

Dr. Sak

09-02-2010, 08:43 PM

Wow Pitt is falling apart

Dr. Sak

09-02-2010, 08:46 PM

The Utah QB is a bit gun shy...nice chuck and duck INT.

Lathum

09-02-2010, 08:48 PM

Georgia State leads Shorter College 20-0 at the half of the Panthers first ever football game.

Which team is the Panthers?

Dr. Sak

09-02-2010, 08:49 PM

Which team is the Panthers?

West Dillon

panerd

09-02-2010, 09:05 PM

Wow. You are like 5 minutes away. Thats crazy.

Yeah was just down at the DMV in Pacific this afternoon. How long have they been fixing that outer road, like 15 years? :)

tarcone

09-02-2010, 09:13 PM

Yeah. Its a mess. Last year at the end of the school year was murder on the school buses.
They hit some electrical lines a couple days ago.

Its been fun.

Lathum

09-02-2010, 09:26 PM

Jesus, what a catch in the S. Carolina game

JonInMiddleGA

09-02-2010, 09:31 PM

Which team is the Panthers?

Sorry about that, that'd be the Georgia State Panthers, under head coach Bill Curry. GSU wins 41-7, as they should against an NAIA opponent but it's still a big deal for them to get that first game under their belt.

JonInMiddleGA

09-02-2010, 09:35 PM

Connor Shaw gets his first career TD pass for South Carolina, the rout is in full gear over Sou Miss, 41-6 with 8 mins left.

JonInMiddleGA

09-02-2010, 09:47 PM

Georgia State attendance tonight: 30,327
Braves attendance tonight: 24,895

RedKingGold

09-02-2010, 10:10 PM

I don't know who these Versus announcers are for the Pitt-Utah game, but they really, really suck.

JonInMiddleGA

09-02-2010, 10:10 PM

Go Hawaii

Lathum

09-02-2010, 10:19 PM

USC made that look pretty easy

JonInMiddleGA

09-02-2010, 10:21 PM

USC made that look pretty easy

Yeah, after I'm wondering who has the bigger margin of victory tonight: USC or the teams that opened against the 1-AA teams?

Eaglesfan27

09-02-2010, 10:25 PM

USC made that look pretty easy

Yes :D

RedKingGold

09-02-2010, 10:30 PM

USC made that look pretty easy

Yes :D

Just turned on the game, are we talking about USC's defense or Hawaii's offense?

Dr. Sak

09-02-2010, 10:40 PM

I don't know who these Versus announcers are for the Pitt-Utah game, but they really, really suck.

The PbP guy does hockey...he should stick to that.

Lathum

09-02-2010, 10:41 PM

Yeah, after I'm wondering who has the bigger margin of victory tonight: USC or the teams that opened against the 1-AA teams?

I think Hawaii plays on emotion and keeps it close and USC wears them down and pulls away in the second half. I loaded up on the -21, I think people underestimate the chip USC has on their shoulder.

Dr. Sak

09-02-2010, 10:42 PM

Way to ice the kicker again dumbass

JonInMiddleGA

09-02-2010, 10:43 PM

I think Hawaii plays on emotion and keeps it close and USC wears them down and pulls away in the second half. I loaded up on the -21, I think people underestimate the chip USC has on their shoulder.

I'd prefer Hawaii play on defense, emotion ain't tackling nor covering for shit.

Eaglesfan27

09-02-2010, 10:46 PM

I think Hawaii plays on emotion and keeps it close and USC wears them down and pulls away in the second half. I loaded up on the -21, I think people underestimate the chip USC has on their shoulder.

Yeah, I don't usually bet on them, but I put a very nice bet on the -21 as well. This USC team is pissed off and is going to play with a lot of fire this year.

samifan24

09-02-2010, 10:47 PM

I don't know who these Versus announcers are for the Pitt-Utah game, but they really, really suck.

I'm pretty sure the PxP guy is Joe Beninati. As Dr. Sak said, Beninati calls Caps games locally and national games on Versus.

Dr. Sak

09-02-2010, 10:51 PM

If Pitt loses this game, you have to blame Wanny for wussing out and running the ball on 3rd and 10 when they were inside the 20 late in the game.

yacovfb

09-02-2010, 10:55 PM

If Pitt loses this game, you have to blame Wanny for wussing out and running the ball on 3rd and 10 when they were inside the 20 late in the game.

Of course, if they throw and Tino gets picked or sacked people blame Wanny for that. I'll just give credit where credit is due - the Utes outplayed us by just enough to get the win.

Dr. Sak

09-02-2010, 10:56 PM

This loss aside, I think Pitt wins the Big East.

Dr. Sak

09-02-2010, 10:58 PM

Of course, if they throw and Tino gets picked or sacked people blame Wanny for that. I'll just give credit where credit is due - the Utes outplayed us by just enough to get the win.

Honestly I thought you guys had the momentum and with two tall guys like Baldwin and Shanahan...why not take a shot downfield? You tell Tino beforehand throw the ball away instead of being sacked.

You're right, he would be seconded guessed either way but I've never been a fan of playing for a tie.

Eaglesfan27

09-02-2010, 11:01 PM

The 21 points is looking good.

yacovfb

09-02-2010, 11:02 PM

Yeah, but we were taking shots on first and second down...just the pressure forced Tino to check down. I probably would have passed on third down too, but I'm not really mad about that call. Ah well, I was pretty 50-50 on our chances coming in and it was a damn close one. Lots of work to do if we want to take down Miami in a few weeks.

JonInMiddleGA

09-02-2010, 11:02 PM

Did USC's kicker get hurt in pre-game or something?

Lathum

09-02-2010, 11:02 PM

The 21 points is looking good.

why go for 2 there?

Eaglesfan27

09-02-2010, 11:04 PM

why go for 2 there?

Don't know. I understood the early attempt, they have been practicing a ton of trick 2 point plays and wanted to put some thoughts out there. And the 2nd one was obvious since the first failed, but that one surprised me.

Lathum

09-02-2010, 11:42 PM

This just in

USC kicked an extra point

BishopMVP

09-02-2010, 11:47 PM

Sorry about that, that'd be the Georgia State Panthers, under head coach Bill Curry. GSU wins 41-7, as they should against an NAIA opponent but it's still a big deal for them to get that first game under their belt.8 more warmups before going to Alabama.

Kodos

09-02-2010, 11:47 PM

I know it was only Towson, but it was nice watching Indiana beat them by a large margin. In the past, we've struggled at times against similar teams. Our defense gave up a couple of big plays to them for scores. Doesn't bode well for when we're playing our conference games.

BishopMVP

09-02-2010, 11:51 PM

Should be a Touchdown. 27-19/20.

TCY Junkie

09-02-2010, 11:51 PM

I love watching that pitt rb but I think HA could have came up with a defensive game plan to beat pitt tonight.

DanGarion

09-02-2010, 11:54 PM

I love Mark Matt Barkley!

BishopMVP

09-03-2010, 12:00 AM

Officials confusing me already. First in Utah/Pitt giving no signal on the first ninja timeout (although that could be partly Versus's fault), and now they rule that there wasn't enough evidence to say Hawaii's Salas made it in, and double the confusion by using the touchdown signal to signify how far away he was.

mckerney

09-03-2010, 12:05 AM

bhlloy

09-03-2010, 12:17 AM

Well, this is what happens when you start 3 guys in the secondary who basically have never seen a college snap before, and don't have any tackling for the majority of fall camp. SC could well lose this in the second half if the offense isn't perfect.

The big disappointment is the d-line not being able to get any pressure against a pretty poor offensive line and the linebackers not being able to stop anything at the LOS. These are veteran guys who should be better.

JonInMiddleGA

09-03-2010, 12:18 AM

Poor showing by Minnesota tonight, but thankfully when playing a team like MTSU they can play like that and still come out with the W.

At least they can if that team is missing its starting QB.

RainMaker

09-03-2010, 12:21 AM

Poor showing by Minnesota tonight, but thankfully when playing a team like MTSU they can play like that and still come out with the W. They definitely missed their 2 starting safeties, but they may both be back by next game. The running game was a lot better this year, hopefully the passing and kicking games can get things together by next week.
MTSU isn't a bad program. While you guys could have played better, a road win against them is still a good thing. MTSU is not a cupcake by any means.

JeeberD

09-03-2010, 12:26 AM

Go 'Bows!

JeeberD

09-03-2010, 12:34 AM

Well, shit. Nice tackling, 'Bows...

MrBug708

09-03-2010, 12:46 AM

Hawaii is really good

bhlloy

09-03-2010, 12:52 AM

That noise you heard was Chip Kelly ejaculating all over his TV set. I think I might just skip the Oregon game this year if this is what Hawaii can do to us.

jbergey22

09-03-2010, 12:52 AM

USC defense is horseshit.

jbergey22

09-03-2010, 01:04 AM

Impressive looking offense though.

Eaglesfan27

09-03-2010, 01:10 AM

I love Mark Matt Barkley!

Big plus 1.

Chief Rum

09-03-2010, 01:17 AM

10:40 left Q3
MTSU 17
Minnesota 14

Kudos to MTSU. :D

Seriously, though, it was just weird to see MTSU references in this thread.

bhlloy

09-03-2010, 01:18 AM

Impressive looking offense though.

With all due respect to Hawaii, no it's not. The WR's have now dropped 5 easy passes for at least 100-150 yards in additional offense and at least 2 more scores. Nearly every downfield throw that the first QB made should/could have been picked, but the USC defender wasn't even looking at the ball. The run game should have been non-existent. Haven't seen a good downfield block by a lineman all game.

This is just the worst defense I have ever seen take the field at a major college program taking a 200 yard offensive night and turning it into 600+ because they can't tackle for shit. Any offense can take a bunch of screen plays and 8 yard dump offs and look good if the other team misses multiple tackles on every single play.

Eaglesfan27

09-03-2010, 01:22 AM

I think he was saying USC's offense looks impressive which I think it has tonight.

bhlloy

09-03-2010, 01:25 AM

Oops... Yeah it has. Couldn't be more impressed with Barkley and Rojo. That is the silver lining. Going to be a ton of shootouts this year

Eaglesfan27

09-03-2010, 01:40 AM

Very happy for Marc Tyler.

Chief Rum

09-03-2010, 01:43 AM

Is that announcer really talking up Mike Garrett right now?

Chief Rum

09-03-2010, 01:47 AM

Fun "food for thought"--UCLA runs this same offense UH is running.

Chief Rum

09-03-2010, 01:50 AM

Tri-dola,

I think USC's D is pretty tired. Frankly, the offense has been so good, and the defense has been so poor tackling, that the defense has been out there a lot. So they're tired from that. And also, those 'SC kids feel like it's midnight now (which is the time here). I'll bet Lane's gotta curfew for his players at around this time--and they're still playing.

wade moore

09-03-2010, 04:45 AM

JonInMiddleGA

09-03-2010, 06:23 AM

I'm unfortunately rooting for their failure because their posters on the CAA message boards are delusional and obnoxious.

Eh, they're already referring to themselves as the #2 football program in Georgia, how much worse could they really be acting on the CAA boards? ;)

tarcone

09-03-2010, 06:40 AM

Getting ready to take off for Iowa City. Going to Fryfest tonight and then to the Iowa/Eastern Illinois game tomorrow.

GO HAWKS!

wade moore

09-03-2010, 07:43 AM

Eh, they're already referring to themselves as the #2 football program in Georgia, how much worse could they really be acting on the CAA boards? ;)

Exactly.

Just mess about how they're going to dominate from day 1, how they're too good for the CAA and will soon be I-A, etc, etc.

Can't wait for them to start league play. The CAA, as we like to say, is the "SEC of I-AA". They are going to take an ass-beating for a few years. I'm not saying they won't be good eventually, but the cockiness with them thinking they will be relevant from day 1 is obnoxious.

Ksyrup

09-03-2010, 08:09 AM

You're talking about them and their first game isn't 24 hours old, so...:p

Noop

09-03-2010, 08:33 AM

USC's defense is not good at all. Matt Barkley looks like a future franchise QB for some NFL team.

miked

09-03-2010, 08:38 AM

A PIT loss is a sweet way to start the season.

CU Tiger

09-03-2010, 08:38 AM

...and extend it to all the other athletics programs. And, give the basketball program a lifetime ban while we're at it. (Seriously, this whole thing is coming undone because it's the football program. Roy could have mass murderers on his basketball team and nothing would come of it.)

In case you missed the reference, in '82 when Clemson was placed on 2 year NCAA probation the UNC AD made a motion at the ACC meetings to add 1 year as an ACC punishment. There was mixed reviews so the UNC AD made a motion that a vote be held and Clemson reps be required to leave the room so they would not know who voted how.....The vote was held, the year was added...and 3 straight beat downs of UNC resulted despite Clemson being an underdog in all 3. part of the speech included the phrase, "We have to geet thee message into the backwoods off SC and GA that those cheaters will never flourish"...thats is a phrase that is still fairly prominent in the CU AD

Lathum

09-03-2010, 09:09 AM

Man, USCs defense looked horrible, has me excited to play them and see what Locker and Sark can do.

Poli

09-03-2010, 09:14 AM

Wow. You are like 5 minutes away. Thats crazy.
Dear tarcone,

Sorry about destroying your high school team.

Love,

Poli and the Desoto Dragons

digamma

09-03-2010, 09:14 AM

Ksyrup

09-03-2010, 09:16 AM

I think it's funny that Kiffin over-reacted to the possibility of camp injuries by not allowing guys to hit each other/tackle, and they continued that theme right into their first game.

JonInMiddleGA

09-03-2010, 09:29 AM

See, now they're just trying to run up the score. They've already clinched the Fulmer Cup.

Warrant issued for arrest of UGA safety Ogletree | UGA sports blog (http://blogs.ajc.com/uga-sports-blog/2010/09/03/warrant-issued-for-uga-football-player/)
University of Georgia Police took out a warrant Thursday for the arrest of Georgia freshman football player Alec Ogletree on a charge of theft by taking.

UGA Police Lt. Eric Dellinger confirmed to the AJC this morning that the warrant was issued but said further details would have to come from UGA Police Chief Jimmy Williamson, who was not immediately available.

Ogletree, a safety, is a highly touted member of Georgia’s 2010 signing class.

According to the Red and Black, UGA’s student newspaper, the warrant stems from a June 15 incident in which a student reported a $35 helmet was taken from the Rankin Smith Center on campus.

Ogletree would be the ninth Georgia football player arrested this year.

Chief Rum

09-03-2010, 09:31 AM

"Theft by taking"?

JonInMiddleGA

09-03-2010, 09:32 AM

"Theft by taking"?

As opposed to "theft by deception" or "theft by conversion".
(I'm guessing that's what you were asking about)

Ksyrup

09-03-2010, 09:34 AM

They should just add "theft by UGA football player" to the statutes and be done with it.

JonInMiddleGA

09-03-2010, 09:35 AM

They should just add "theft by UGA football player" to the statutes and be done with it.

On the bright side, it makes the work of local police a good bit easier :D

Chief Rum

09-03-2010, 09:50 AM

As opposed to "theft by deception" or "theft by conversion".
(I'm guessing that's what you were asking about)

Heh, yeah, just seemed an odd way to term the crime (and I knew they were taking that straight from the police, that it wasn't a journalistic decision to call it that).

Ksyrup

09-03-2010, 09:50 AM

From a press release on UNC's Scout site, 12 players will miss the LSU game.

6 are ineligible
Austin, Little, CB Brown, CB Burney, DE McAdoo, DE Quinn

6 are being held back as a precaution, but are not ineligible at this time
DE Euwell, S Gupton, RB Houston, RB Draughn, S Searcy, S Scott

ESPN's article also adds this:

North Carolina, ranked 18th, also is working with the NCAA today to determine the eligibility status of three other unnamed players who will not travel to Atlanta for the Chick-fil-A kickoff.

So the real number is 15 then, but 12 named?

Ksyrup

09-03-2010, 09:55 AM

I guess to answer my own question, from Heather Dinich's blog - yes. 15 players altogether.

Kinda sucks as it ruins what could have been one of the better games of the weekend:

The Tar Heels will be missing their leading receiver, the top three rushers (Little was third), the top two punt returners, two of the top three interception leaders, and two of the top four tacklers. The two-deep on the preseason depth chart at running back, strong safety and right defensive end will now start with the third-string player or others will have to be moved around.

DanGarion

09-03-2010, 09:57 AM

Is that announcer really talking up Mike Garrett right now?

Glad I went to bed before that shit or I might have thrown something at my TV.

DanGarion

09-03-2010, 09:59 AM

As opposed to "theft by deception" or "theft by conversion".
(I'm guessing that's what you were asking about)

Or theft by inception.

wade moore

09-03-2010, 10:28 AM

MrBug708

09-03-2010, 10:58 AM

Fun "food for thought"--UCLA runs this same offense UH is running.

Same formation, not same offense. Hawaii runs the "Run & Shoot"

cartman

09-03-2010, 11:11 AM

Same formation, not same offense. Hawaii runs the "Run & Shoot"

Hawaii also utilized the Pistol quite a bit last night.

Tigercat

09-03-2010, 11:12 AM

Extra bitter about UNC screwing W&M and moving the game to October. This was supposed to be W&M @ UNC, but late last season they worked this deal with LSU and moved the W&M game. We could really have a shot at defeating them with all of these suspensions.

More like they worked the deal out with Chik-Fil-A Bowl people. It's the "kickoff" game, not just a regular home and home. It's primetime on network TV on the first weekend of the season. Can't blame anyone for moving a 1AA game for that.

digamma

09-03-2010, 11:15 AM

On UNC - any word on how long these suspensions last, etc?

Extra bitter about UNC screwing W&M and moving the game to October. This was supposed to be W&M @ UNC, but late last season they worked this deal with LSU and moved the W&M game. We could really have a shot at defeating them with all of these suspensions.

Anyway - curious how long they could last and if it could impact our game against them.

"The number of games that those 12 student-athletes may miss has not been determined at this time. The investigation continues to include both agent-related and academic issues."

My guess is that Austin and Little are out for the season. Haven't read much about the others.

wade moore

09-03-2010, 11:17 AM

More like they worked the deal out with Chik-Fil-A Bowl people. It's the "kickoff" game, not just a regular home and home. It's primetime on network TV on the first weekend of the season. Can't blame anyone for moving a 1AA game for that.

Oh, I agree - I'm just bitter ;).

Swaggs

09-03-2010, 11:33 AM

You have to think that Austin and Little are done. If they kept Dez Bryant out for the entire season, those two have to be toast.

Ksyrup

09-03-2010, 01:25 PM

So the other 3 UNC players not named that didn't make the trip were 2 starting LBs and a starting S. That's 8 defensive starters out and 11 of the top 23 on the defensive depth chart, plus the top 3 rushers last year, out for this game at least. Wow.

dawgfan

09-03-2010, 01:33 PM

USC had better figure some things out on defense quickly, or they're going to give up some ugly scores come Pac-10 time...

JonInMiddleGA

09-03-2010, 03:06 PM

NCAA reverses field, Masoli eligible for Saturday after all

http://www.foxsportssouth.com/09/03/10/All-Systems-GO/landing.html?blockID=303845&feedID=4354

Disgusting ruling AFAIC, even when the NCAA gets something right they manage to get something wrong.

Ajaxab

09-03-2010, 03:20 PM

dawgfan

09-03-2010, 03:36 PM

NCAA reverses field, Masoli eligible for Saturday after all

All Systems GO... (http://www.foxsportssouth.com/09/03/10/All-Systems-GO/landing.html?blockID=303845&feedID=4354)

Disgusting ruling AFAIC, even when the NCAA gets something right they manage to get something wrong.
The ruling was correct. Direct your anger not at the NCAA's decision, but at their rule that allowed him to transfer without penalty - they created the loophole, and while we may all feel like it's a joke of a rule, better to enforce the rule as written and then change the rule than rule incorrectly.

For someone that seems to otherwise be such a stickler to laws and rules, your position on this matter seems hypocritical.

Chief Rum

09-03-2010, 03:48 PM

The ruling was correct. Direct your anger not at the NCAA's decision, but at their rule that allowed him to transfer without penalty - they created the loophole, and while we may all feel like it's a joke of a rule, better to enforce the rule as written and then change the rule than rule incorrectly.

For someone that seems to otherwise be such a stickler to laws and rules, your position on this matter seems hypocritical.

A wee bit harsh here, don't you think?

JonInMiddleGA

09-03-2010, 04:01 PM

For someone that seems to otherwise be such a stickler to laws and rules, your position on this matter seems hypocritical.

As a voluntary membership organization, the bounds of common sense would certainly seem to designate the NCAA as the most capable judge of the intent its own rules.

What failed them here was their courage, not their judgment.

dawgfan

09-03-2010, 04:27 PM

As a voluntary membership organization, the bounds of common sense would certainly seem to designate the NCAA as the most capable judge of the intent its own rules.

What failed them here was their courage, not their judgment.
I know this will come as a big shock to you, but I disagree. If the rule is written so ambiguously as to allow for a grievous violation of the spirit of the rule, than re-write the rule. Regardless of Masoli's past, it's unfair to present the rules for what he needs to do to transfer without losing a year and when he meets those requirements, then come in and say "Well, that's not in the spirit of how we meant for that exemption to be used". It was the NCAA's mistake in how they wrote the rules in the first place.

And believe me, this is coming from someone that thinks Masoli is an idiot thug, and that was disgusted when Ole Miss offered to take him on. I have no bias towards Masoli in the slightest.

dawgfan

09-03-2010, 04:29 PM

A wee bit harsh here, don't you think?
Really? Is it not a hypocritical stance? Is it wrong to point out hypocrisy when it happens?

I was honestly quite struck at how someone who has so frequently argued in favor of strict adherence to rules and laws in other issues is deviating from that kind of view in this particular case.

JonInMiddleGA

09-03-2010, 04:39 PM

I If the rule is written so ambiguously as to allow for a grievous violation of the spirit of the rule, than re-write the rule.

I'm sure that will get a hard look, but in the meantime, I believe they certainly should be allowed to interpret their own rules as they see fit.

FTR, I don't mind your question at all (not entirely thrilled with the somewhat combative tone, but whatever). I simply feel like there's a legitimate distinction here between this situation & the large majority of the instances where I've backed rule of law/rule of rules.

Ever notice that I'm not really a member of the "raise hell about FOFC moderation" crowd? That's not accidental, and it's for reasons similar to my feelings here; basically "their house, their rules".

dawgfan

09-03-2010, 04:46 PM

I'm sure that will get a hard look, but in the meantime, I believe they certainly should be allowed to interpret their own rules as they see fit.
It's their right to, but it doesn't make it fair to the player affected. He's supposed to know the spirit of the rule when the rule, as written, as wide-open?

MrBug708

09-03-2010, 04:55 PM

Apparently Monty's "Tampa 2" means that you only are supposed to cover two WR's, even if there are four lined up on the line.

dawgfan

09-03-2010, 05:25 PM

Apparently Monty's "Tampa 2" means that you only are supposed to cover two WR's, even if there are four lined up on the line.
A well-executed run and shoot offense with all of the on-the-fly route options can really exploit zone defenses. Credit Hawaii for executing well - the WR's did a good job finding the open spots in the zone and the QB's did a good job delivering the ball at the right time.

That said, those DB's did a poor job of reacting to those receivers and closing off the gaps, and an even worse job of tackling in the open field. And the USC DL didn't get enough pressure on Hawaii. I think they got tentative after Moniz burned them early for not keeping pocket containment with some big runs, and afterward they were a little more hesitant in their pass rush.

Chief Rum

09-03-2010, 06:29 PM

Really? Is it not a hypocritical stance? Is it wrong to point out hypocrisy when it happens?

I was honestly quite struck at how someone who has so frequently argued in favor of strict adherence to rules and laws in other issues is deviating from that kind of view in this particular case.

Not commenting on your point. I just thought you were a bit too over the top and should maybe consider dialing it down a little.

Not that Jon can't take it.

k0ruptr

09-04-2010, 02:59 AM

Had a great time at the USC Hawaii game last nite. Wow what a game. Proud of the way Hawaii played, and USC's offense tore us up, and USC's D looked like pop warner kids.

k0ruptr

09-04-2010, 03:03 AM

Dola, I also got news from a good friend that I may get use of a photographers pass for future Hawaii games this season and will be on the field!

k0ruptr

09-04-2010, 03:13 AM

Some pics! (not on the field this game, but I was able to get pretty close)

Barkley? NO It's fofc favorite Mitch Mustain! and some other trojans
http://i51.tinypic.com/rjh54g.jpg

Go Moniz!
http://i51.tinypic.com/16m7s6g.jpg

Kickoff! http://i52.tinypic.com/2z4hdsj.jpg

Coach Kiffin and his Prom Date http://i54.tinypic.com/or6sut.jpg

JonInMiddleGA

09-04-2010, 07:38 AM

It's their right to, but it doesn't make it fair to the player affected. He's supposed to know the spirit of the rule when the rule, as written, as wide-open?

Yeah, I'd say anyone with at least a 3-digit IQ should know that the rule wasn't designed for a player to use the way this p.o.s. did.

digamma

09-04-2010, 09:49 AM

Today is better than Christmas.

Lathum

09-04-2010, 10:00 AM

UW has gone from +3 to a pick em game against BYU. I am a little nervous so many people are picking us.

GrantDawg

09-04-2010, 11:02 AM

They should just add "theft by UGA football player" to the statutes and be done with it.

It is gettin to a point that, no matter how good a guy Mark Richt is, you have to say "get control or move on." None of these charges are major, just little crap, but there is definitely a lack of discipline and control shining through. There are lots of commentators putting Richt on the hot seat because of on-field stuff, but he really was in no danger. But this crap will.

GrantDawg

09-04-2010, 11:51 AM

Put him danger. Sorry, got a call and got distracted.

MacroGuru

09-04-2010, 12:07 PM

UW has gone from +3 to a pick em game against BYU. I am a little nervous so many people are picking us.

As I said on FB...you should beat us. You have a Heisman hopeful at QB, you return the bulk of your offense. .

We have a 2 headed monster at QB I have zero faith on working...we have brand new starters on the front 7 of our defense...it has all the makings of we should get our butts handed to us.

HOWEVER, we are playing at LES and we rarely lose there...but when we do, it's in grand fashion!

Noop

09-04-2010, 12:35 PM

Florida State looks so impressive. I know its Samford but I haven't seen a Florida State team ever look this organized.

Easy Mac

09-04-2010, 12:41 PM

watcing the UGA - ULL game, and they keep saying my name. Very disconcerting.

Noop

09-04-2010, 12:48 PM

watcing the UGA - ULL game, and they keep saying my name. Very disconcerting.

????

GrantDawg

09-04-2010, 12:52 PM

watcing the UGA - ULL game, and they keep saying my name. Very disconcerting.

Your name misdomeanor?

Eaglesfan27

09-04-2010, 01:11 PM

So, is Florida vastly overrated or just having one bad day?

Lathum

09-04-2010, 01:13 PM

So, is Florida vastly overrated or just having one bad day?

They need to learn to snap the football.

MJ4H

09-04-2010, 01:21 PM

So, is Florida vastly overrated or just having one bad day?

ZING:devil:

crap quoted wrong post. meant to quote the misdemeanor post

mauchow

09-04-2010, 01:38 PM

Chief Rum

09-04-2010, 01:47 PM

Ouch, Miami-Ohio was threatening on the 3-yard line and instead of being able to go for it on 4th and goal on the 1 or 2 they got a personal foul to back them up and forced to kick a FG to keep it at a 2-score game.

It's turned around now. Florida with the long score. Now their lead looks pretty commanding.

MrBug708

09-04-2010, 01:59 PM

Aaron Murray is good.

GrantDawg

09-04-2010, 02:07 PM

Aaron Murray is good.

Not bad. We'll know more next week. It is encouraging, though. Because UGA seems to always play flat in games like this, but they definitely didn't this week. South Carolina will be a tougher test.

MrBug708

09-04-2010, 02:16 PM

Gettis just had a pretty amazing pick for Mizzou

Chief Rum

09-04-2010, 02:18 PM

Gettis just had a pretty amazing pick for Mizzou

Yeah, I saw that, too. Mizzou has really turned it around since halftime.

M GO BLUE!!!

09-04-2010, 03:57 PM

WOW! What a catch by Connecticut's #80! He tipped that thing to himself for what, 20 yards?

Lathum

09-04-2010, 04:10 PM

Oregon is laying a whooping on New Mexico

DeToxRox

09-04-2010, 04:19 PM

Bug or CR, whats the weather like in the UCLA/KSU game? Was checking the boxscore, looks like both QB's are having big issues.

MrBug708

09-04-2010, 04:27 PM

UCLA's offense is plagued by drop balls and dumb decisions by Prince. KSU hasn't had much outside of the first drive. It's fairly windy though

Julio Riddols

09-04-2010, 04:35 PM

Kenjon Barner must be some kind of "football enhanced" cyborg.

DeToxRox

09-04-2010, 04:39 PM

Kenjon Barner must be some kind of "football enhanced" cyborg.

I'll chalk it up to the fact that the Ron Zook coaching tree is like a bizzaro Bill Parcells type of thing.

kingfc22

09-04-2010, 04:57 PM

WTF happened to Robinson? I turn away for a few minutes and the next thing I know he's limping off the field.

DeToxRox

09-04-2010, 04:59 PM

WTF happened to Robinson? I turn away for a few minutes and the next thing I know he's limping off the field.

Took a shot to the hip. Actually looked like two to the same spot. I think he'll be alright, but may not be back today.

DeToxRox

09-04-2010, 05:02 PM

Dola, of course he is back right as I finish typing that.

DeToxRox

09-04-2010, 05:36 PM

Safe to say this wasn't a good weekend for the Big East so far.

M GO BLUE!!!

09-04-2010, 05:42 PM

Safe to say this wasn't a good weekend for the Big East so far.

Can't blame Connecticut. They played a team coached by a true genius. A coach that football was invented for. All of college football now fears this powerhouse.

DeToxRox

09-04-2010, 05:43 PM

Daniel Thomas, he is good.

Atocep

09-04-2010, 05:48 PM

Safe to say this wasn't a good weekend for the Big East so far.

I thought UConn and Pitt were overrated heading into this season. This UConn team is no different from the last several. They have a good running back, solid defense (but not great), and a terrible QB. No clue why so many were jumping all over the UConn bandwagon. They'll lose 4-5 games this year and go to a shitty bowl. Same thing they do every year. I've also never got the Edsall love. His teams play fundamentally sound and don't beat themselves, but they also don't ever wow you in any way.

Pitt just lost too much from last year's team. Combine that with the Wanny factor and I think they probably take a step back this season.

DeToxRox

09-04-2010, 05:55 PM

Jax St is leading Ole Miss in OT.

MJ4H is going to have his head explode if this finishes up with a Jax St win.

DeToxRox

09-04-2010, 05:56 PM

I thought UConn and Pitt were overrated heading into this season. This UConn team is no different from the last several. They have a good running back, solid defense (but not great), and a terrible QB. No clue why so many were jumping all over the UConn bandwagon. They'll lose 4-5 games this year and go to a shitty bowl. Same thing they do every year. I've also never got the Edsall love. His teams play fundamentally sound and don't beat themselves, but they also don't ever wow you in any way.

Pitt just lost too much from last year's team. Combine that with the Wanny factor and I think they probably take a step back this season.

I figured we'd win today if Denard played well. UConn was exposed vs the run last year vs WVU, USF and Pitt and again today vs UM.

People who want Edsall as UM's coach if RR fails amaze me. He's now 0-5 vs RR too boot. That would be a great PR move no doubt.

DeToxRox

09-04-2010, 05:59 PM

Double OT in Oxford.

Atocep

09-04-2010, 06:00 PM

I figured we'd win today if Denard played well.

Rich needs to stop thinking guys like Forcier are going to work in his offense. He needs a QB that can score with his legs on any play. The offense runs entirely different when he has that.

MrBug708

09-04-2010, 06:02 PM

Daniel Thomas, he is good.

Chuck Bullough is bad. THey dont have a QB and we only stack 7 men in the box.

Depressing game, hello 4-8

Tigercat

09-04-2010, 06:03 PM

Coty Blanchard should have been a FBS recruit.

From Scout:
2009 Stats: Completed 200 of 288 pass attempts for 2,924 yards and 35 touchdowns with three interceptions through 15 games and a state championship.

The senior rushed for 1,141 yards on 153 carries scoring 18 touchdowns.

Won a state championship, passing for nearly 3k yards, rushing for 1k, and he only threw THREE INTS all year?! I don't care what classification you play in, that is incredible. Yea, I would say someone should have given him a scholly, especially those teams that signed two scholly QBs.

DeToxRox

09-04-2010, 06:03 PM

Rich needs to stop thinking guys like Forcier are going to work in his offense. He needs a QB that can score with his legs on any play. The offense runs entirely different when he has that.

Well when Denard went down for two plays Gardner came in. Tate was shown alone on the bench as everyone was together on the sideline waiting for the game to end.

Tate will be gone by the end of the year. I hope he decides to stay for the entire season though since we still have no real depth behind Gardner.

DeToxRox

09-04-2010, 06:04 PM

Chuck Bullough is bad. THey dont have a QB and we only stack 7 men in the box.

Depressing game, hello 4-8

While I agree the D wasn't good, I have been high on Thomas. He just is elite. He'll be a 1500 yard back. Sucks it happened to UCLA as I have always had a soft spot in my heart for them, but at least it was a top 3-5 RB who did it to them.

BishopMVP

09-04-2010, 06:09 PM

WOW! What a catch by Connecticut's #80! He tipped that thing to himself for what, 20 yards?One of those DB's needs to stop ball-watching and lay him out before he can tip it 7 times.

Notre Dame looked solid in Kelly's debut. Purdue's non-stop rollouts gave us a fair amount of trouble as we didn't contain well, which could spell trouble against Robinson next week, but the defensive backfield did a nice job tackling and preventing any short gains from turning into big ones. Plus there was a semblance of a running game. Winner next week will probably get voted into the top 25 - I'm not sure either fanbase was expecting that.

DeToxRox

09-04-2010, 06:10 PM

Holy shit! What a pass by Jax States QB! 30 yard strike on 4th and 15 with an amazing catch.

Jax St is down 1 now and looks like they are going for the win.

BishopMVP

09-04-2010, 06:10 PM

Holy crap what a pass by Blanchard. Go for 2 JSU.

DeToxRox

09-04-2010, 06:12 PM

JSU gets the two pointer! Amazing set of plays there!

mckerney

09-04-2010, 06:12 PM

Wow, 2 amazing plays in a row by Blanchard.

RainMaker

09-04-2010, 06:14 PM

That was incredible from a Freshman.

BishopMVP

09-04-2010, 06:17 PM

Karmic payback comes quick these days... first taking on Masoli, then playing him late over the guy averaging 13.3 ypa and 3 td's in 10 attempts.

Although knowing Houston Nutt teams, this just guarantees they'll beat Alabama (or one of Arkansas/Auburn/LSU if they're top 10).

RainMaker

09-04-2010, 06:17 PM

For those who don't follow FCS, Jacksonville State is a solid program. They almost beat Florida State last year. Would have been a playoff team but were ruled ineligible by the NCAA for grade issues.

Lathum

09-04-2010, 06:18 PM

couldn't ask for a better start for the Huskies, Locker looked great except for one botched snap

Lathum

09-04-2010, 06:49 PM

We're playing really sloppy right now. First quarter alone a 15 yard roughing the kicker, a snap over the kickers head for a safety and a slip and fall on the punt return resulting in us starting a drive from our own 2.

SirFozzie

09-04-2010, 07:34 PM

Fake Punt by Oregon State sets up a TD, Oregon St up 14-7

TroyF

09-04-2010, 08:22 PM

Kendall Hunter:

21 carries, 257 yards, 4 TD. 12:10 left in the third quarter.

OK State torching Washington St.

Karlifornia

09-04-2010, 08:27 PM

Kendall Hunter:

21 carries, 257 yards, 4 TD. 12:10 left in the third quarter.

OK State torching Washington St.

As they should be. As any FBS team should be.

Swaggs

09-04-2010, 08:30 PM

Safe to say this wasn't a good weekend for the Big East so far.

I knew it was very possible, but I was hoping that the Pitt (@ Utah), UConn (@ Michigan), and Louisville (vs Kentucky) would not all lose this week. All three were probably slight underdogs, but these are the type of measuring stick games that make a conference look good at the end of the season and the Big East didn't pick up a decent win this week.

Cincy has a chance to pick up a decent win @ Fresno State later tonight, but I wouldn't be shocked to see Fresno win that one at home.

Rutgers and WVU had easy wins that looked big, but neither played exceptionally well and South Florida struggled early, but is pulling ahead. But three wins against subdivision teams isn't much to hang their hat on.

Syracuse may have had the "best" win of the day by dominating Akron on the road. Not a huge win, but it has been awhile since Syracuse has whipped someone in such convincing fashion.

The other thing that I am watching is the UNC-LSU game, as WVU plays them in a few weeks and it will be one of the handful of "statement game" opportunities for the conference. If LSU loses to the UNC JV squad today, it is kind of going to be a lose-lose type of game for WVU. Although as I type this, LSU has scored 9 unanswered.