NFL Week 1 Discussion Thread - Revis signs, HBO rejoices

[ColtCrazy]

Colts look flat and out of sync. They'll be a good team, but not today.

Houston finally has figured out not to let Schaub blow the game. Grind it out and keep things simple. Colts are getting mauled, why take risks?

[SackAttack]

Fixed that for you

No doubt. But I'd never seen him play before, so I didn't want to malign his entire career just because he looks like a Pop Warner player in an NFL world out there today. :)

[fpres]

Arian Foster with over 100 yards now. It's just one game, but it would be huge if he could bring some consistency to the Houston running game.

[sterlingice]

Texans just missed a chance to end the game

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[Karlifornia]

The Raiders are such shit. Just...can't be be competitive. Wait...maybe the Titans are just really good this year?

[Galaril]

The Raiders are such shit. Just...can't be be competitive. Wait...maybe the Titans are just really good this year?

Both.

[Eaglesfan27]

Arian Foster with over 100 yards now. It's just one game, but it would be huge if he could bring some consistency to the Houston running game.

He looks like the real deal!

[fpres]

Huge fumble recovery by Houston. That drive had 7 points written all over it.

[sterlingice]

That might be it for Texans-Colts

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[fpres]

He looks like the real deal!

No doubt about it. After an auspicious ending to last season...190 yards and 2 TDs today.

[Mustang]

If I'm a Bears fan, my head just exploded.

[bulletsponge]

its nice to see a HC realize that when the other team cant stop your rushing to actually keep feeding the ball to the backs instead of having your overrated QB throw your team out of the game *cough childress*

[GrantDawg]

Notice no discussion on Pit-Atlanta? It is because everyone watching the game is in a semi-coma.

[JAG]

I'm glad I got to watch Lions-Bears, this has been a hilarious game.

[SackAttack]

As impotent as this Detroit offense has been, why wouldn't you just kick the three there if you're Chicago? Are you really that scared that they're going to score again?

[MikeVic]

Notice no discussion on Pit-Atlanta? It is because everyone watching the game is in a semi-coma.

I agree, there haven't even been many penalties. Just a slow, plodding game with not much offense and no WOW defense either.

[Greyroofoo]

Colts look flat and out of sync. They'll be a good team, but not today.

Houston finally has figured out not to let Schaub blow the game. Grind it out and keep things simple. Colts are getting mauled, why take risks?

2 losses in 17 games against the Texans ain't bad.

[Bearcat729]

The Browns offense is going to drive me to drinking.

[GrantDawg]

First game a season: Mike Smith pulls a hammy calling time out.

[fpres]

Psychologically, the Texans and Houston needed this win (especially with a sizable fourth quarter lead). After "Rosencopters" and blown fourth quarter leads over the past couple of years, another opening week loss to Indy could've derailed the season before it even really started.

[GrantDawg]

Matty Ice melts.

[stevew]

So good to have Troy back

[Chubby]

my season outlook not so rosy if all my pts coming from the DET/CHI game

[ColtCrazy]

2 losses in 17 games against the Texans ain't bad.

True....and surely the run defense can't be this bad for the rest of the season.


But the defense on that last one was bad. I could have run into the end zone.

[stevew]

Notice no discussion on Pit-Atlanta? It is because everyone watching the game is in a semi-coma.

I've watched much more exciting soccer games.

[Alan T]

Notice no discussion on Pit-Atlanta? It is because everyone watching the game is in a semi-coma.


I haven't been able to watch the game because I'm stuck with this blow out of a New England - Cincy game. I've been trying to follow gamecast, but it seems like it is not much of a game.

[GrantDawg]

I've watched much more exciting soccer games.


Much.

[sabotai]

3rd Manning pick that was tipped in the air by his receiver. Giants answer back with their third pick in the end zone. Good thing Matt Moore sucks or this game would be close right now.

[stevew]

Jesus christ idiot kicker.

[GrantDawg]

Missed it! Still a tie game.

[Big Fo]

It doesn't bode well for the season that my Dolphins could only beat that shower of shit by five points. The offense was so bad in the second half.

[Greyroofoo]

Rarely do you see Peyton Money throw for 3 TDs and over 400 yards yet still lose the game.

[BishopMVP]

T.O. + Ochocinco + washed up Carson Palmer = self-destruction. Glad I avoided that trainwreck in fantasy.#'s are a little inflated with the huge halftime deficit, but Ochocinco has looked great. 12 for 160 and a td on 13 targets, including at least 3 great sideline grabs (and another one right now while getting laid out by Meriwether). Gresham looks like a good pick-up in deep or keeper leagues, and even T.O. should get some stats - I don't think he'll blow up because Chad is his homeboy. Even Palmer had 340 and 2 td's.

Overall, the Pats offense did look very good (as expected), but any time you can add a defensive TD and a special teams TD your odds of winning go up substantially.

[Izulde]

It doesn't bode well for the season that my Dolphins could only beat that shower of shit by five points. The offense was so bad in the second half.

I look at it like this. A win is a win, especially in an archrivalry season opener. The offense will come along in time.

[mauchow]

I say touchdown for Calvin Johnson...

[GrantDawg]

How do these announcers call this game with Matt Ryan's privates in their mouths?

[Jas_lov]

Detroit just got screwed. That was a clear catch. When his ass hits the ground in the endzone and he has possession, play over, touchdown. That process rule is BS.

[sterlingice]

That looked like a TD for Calvin Johnson but I only showed up for that last replay

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[Vince, Pt. II]

Detroit completely jobbed there. Terrible call.

[SackAttack]

Detroit just got screwed. That was a clear catch. When his ass hits the ground in the endzone and he has possession, play over, touchdown. That process rule is BS.

Agreed here, but that's just a gut thing.

I'm surprised there was no PI flag on the ensuing play, either.

[cmp]

Bull F'n Shit

[mauchow]

He caught, it, took three steps, landed on his butt, rolled over, and then the ball hit the ground and popped out.......

Should be
Lions 1-0
Bears 0-1

Too bad for the screw job there.

[MikeVic]

How do these announcers call this game with Matt Ryan's privates in their mouths?

I KNOW!! Holy crap, since when did Ryan become an "elite" QB?? They've said that at least twice, and have also said things like "with Matty Ice out there, you know you have a good chance to blah blah blah."

[Thomkal]

Man this has been a pretty ugly Giants/Panthers game. And now Matt Moore may be hurt. 6 Carolina turnovers, 4 Giants turnovers

[Schmidty]

Lions got fucked in the ass on that. I broke my remote.

That rule needs to go away.

[illinifan999]

As a Bears fan, and as someone whose fantasy opponent has Calvin Johnson, I am in love with that screw job. :devil:

[kingfc22]

That's some BS. That rule gets changed next year.

[Big Fo]

I look at it like this. A win is a win, especially in an archrivalry season opener. The offense will come along in time.

The two dropped pick sixes didn't help either. But Marshall, Brown, and the pass rush looked pretty good at least.

If I had seen your earlier post I'd have told you to try the MIA-BUF stream at ATDHE.net, it was clear and didn't stutter for the entire second half which is kind of remarkable.

[Thomkal]

Poor Jimmy Clausen has to make his debut trying to prevent getting sacked in the end zone for a safety

[stevew]

You don't see many walkoff wins like that in Football.

[sterlingice]

Also, how do you love that the way Buck (he was calling the game, right- I just switched over for that last play) frames it was "Well, it's the right call but there should be an exception". That way it sounds like the NFL got it right no matter what even tho it's not nearly so cut and dry

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[Matthean]

After Calvin got up and left the ball behind I was like, "Wait...," but in all honesty that should have been a catch. Detroit looks to be better this year, but they still can't turn improvement into actual wins.

[kingfc22]

And we have a Nate Clements sighting. Nice to see he wants to contribute this year.

[stevew]

I KNOW!! Holy crap, since when did Ryan become an "elite" QB?? They've said that at least twice, and have also said things like "with Matty Ice out there, you know you have a good chance to blah blah blah."

Yeah, I was hoping that he'd keep throwing that "patented deep out" ball. That thing looks like a juicy pick 6. Gay dropped an easy pick 6 earlier in the game too.

[Schmidty]

The NFL should be ashamed about that, because it's an absolute travesty. I'm really nauseous right now.

[henry296]

The Mendenhall TD play may have been the same play that Parker scored on in Super Bowl 40. I'd love to see if anyone asks Tomlin about that.

[cmp]

I can't even watch another game today after that. I turned my TV off and am done with the NFL for the night.

[stevew]

And one final thing about the falcons. I love the fact that Jamal Anderson the RB is probably still a folk hero with the dirty bird crew. Then they draft a guy named Jamaal Anderson and he absolutely sucks.

[stevew]

I'd help post bail if someone wants to beat the fuck out of Joe Buck. He drips douche like a summers eve.

[Swaggs]

Glad to see Troy back. He is one of the biggest difference makers in the NFL and, in my opinion, last season's injury moved us from contender to missing the playoffs.

Unfortunately, it looks like the Big Snack and Max Stark may both be out for awhile. It's been a rough two years for injuries -- especially in the two areas where we have the least depth (along each line).

Dixon needs to get a lot better between week 1 and 2 if he wants to have a long NFL career, which is entirely possible. Too many rushed/bad throws today and not enough positive scrambling plays for my liking.

[GrantDawg]

Glad to see Troy back. He is one of the biggest difference makers in the NFL and, in my opinion, last season's injury moved us from contender to missing the playoffs.

Unfortunately, it looks like the Big Snack and Max Stark may both be out for awhile. It's been a rough two years for injuries -- especially in the two areas where we have the least depth (along each line).

Dixon needs to get a lot better between week 1 and 2 if he wants to have a long NFL career, which is entirely possible. Too many rushed/bad throws today and not enough positive scrambling plays for my liking.


He should only get better. Getting these starts this season will help him in the long run.

[sterlingice]

I'd help post bail if someone wants to beat the fuck out of Joe Buck. He drips douche like a summers eve.

He's a two sport tool, too

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[Chief Rum]

No horse in Detroit-Chicago, but, then, not sure there is much disagreement. The Lions got jobbed.

That said, because Chicago ends up with the win, I might actually win some $$$.

[larrymcg421]

Happy with the Dolphins win. Sure, it was ugly, but never take a road win for granted. The defense was terrific. The running game was solid. Brandon Marshall played much better than his stats show.

[k0ruptr]

Can't believe that bS in the lions game, makes me sick

[Thomkal]

Adrian Wilson has blocked a kick an Intercepted a Bradford to Clayton pass already for my beloved Cards

[Vince, Pt. II]

Happy with the Dolphins win. Sure, it was ugly, but never take a road win for granted. The defense was terrific. The running game was solid. Brandon Marshall played much better than his stats show.

Having watched the whole game (friend is a Bills fan), I have to disagree with the defense playing well. The Bill's playcalling was atrocious, and their execution was horrid. How do you only rush 14 times with Jackson, Lynch and Spiller? The no-huddle drive was great, but otherwise it was more the Bills sucking than the Dolphins playing good D.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Oh Randy.

[Desnudo]

#'s are a little inflated with the huge halftime deficit, but Ochocinco has looked great. 12 for 160 and a td on 13 targets, including at least 3 great sideline grabs (and another one right now while getting laid out by Meriwether). Gresham looks like a good pick-up in deep or keeper leagues, and even T.O. should get some stats - I don't think he'll blow up because Chad is his homeboy. Even Palmer had 340 and 2 td's.

Overall, the Pats offense did look very good (as expected), but any time you can add a defensive TD and a special teams TD your odds of winning go up substantially.

That was a werid game for stats. It felt like Palmer could/should have thrown 3-4 INTs with the risks he was taking. Instead he ends up with what looks like an efficient game (+ a free 50 yards on a useless hail mary).

I think the Patriots actually suffered from running that TD back for the first score of the 2nd half as their offense didn't see the field again until barely any time was left in the 3rd quarter and their defense wore out.

[kingfc22]

Alex Smith rolling so far. Niners should just keep throwing as SEA has shown no answer in the secondary.

[SackAttack]

How many sacks is this for Rodgers now? I thought this OL was supposed to be improved.

[Thomkal]

Adrian Wilson has blocked a kick an Intercepted a Bradford to Clayton pass already for my beloved Cards

And now has added a sack as well. Welcome to the NFL Sam.

[Karlifornia]

GET IT IN THE MOTHERFUCKING ENDZONE, 49ers

[kingfc22]

Ugh! This game should be 21-0 right now. The play calls onside the 10 have been atrocious.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Lions got fucked in the ass on that. I broke my remote.

That rule needs to go away.

Been one hell of a year for Detroit teams & bad calls. I hope the dick that made that call gets the stomach virus that had me laid up in major pain for the last week (lost 10 lbs in the process.) Fuck him.

Next week Lions, don't let the dickheads wearing stripes decide a fucking thing. Knock the other teams dicks off on every play then point to the scoreboard & tell the refs to suck it after the final gun.

[Radii]

Man this has been a pretty ugly Giants/Panthers game. And now Matt Moore may be hurt. 6 Carolina turnovers, 4 Giants turnovers

Moore was awful. He looked great during the 2 minute drill at the end of the first half. Outside of that he was just terrible. The first interception there were 5 defenders close to the intended receiver. The last two inside the red zone were just horrible decisions. The one thing that bugs me the most was watching Carolina get 1st and goal around the 5 after a pass interference call and watching them call three pass plays in a row, all three were terrible throws, Deangelo Williams doesn't get a single run inside the 5, really!?

At one point in the 2nd quarter they showed that Carolina had ~75 yards rushing and the Giants had -2. At the end of the game Carolina had 89 and the Giants over 100.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Absolutely terrible PI call keeps the Seahawks drive alive, and they convert a TD. Sigh.

[k0ruptr]

Ryan Grant seriously might be done for the year, the knee is not supposed to twist like that. he had to hop off the field on one leg to the locker room.

[Danny]

Man I hope not, I have him in my money league.

[Galaril]

Holy crap what hell was the refs smoking at the end of Lions game?

[Thomkal]

Moore was awful. He looked great during the 2 minute drill at the end of the first half. Outside of that he was just terrible. The first interception there were 5 defenders close to the intended receiver. The last two inside the red zone were just horrible decisions. The one thing that bugs me the most was watching Carolina get 1st and goal around the 5 after a pass interference call and watching them call three pass plays in a row, all three were terrible throws, Deangelo Williams doesn't get a single run inside the 5, really!?

At one point in the 2nd quarter they showed that Carolina had ~75 yards rushing and the Giants had -2. At the end of the game Carolina had 89 and the Giants over 100.

Yeah was very surprised Williams didn't get a chance to run it in, especially given the play early in the game where he was on his way to a TD if not for a great play by the safety. Probably (hopefully) John Fox's last season if this game is any indication of what things are going to be like.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Ryan Grant seriously might be done for the year, the knee is not supposed to twist like that. he had to hop off the field on one leg to the locker room.
Man I hope not, I have him in my money league.

THIS is what a hate about "fantasy" football. A guy's season may be over (who knows from there) and all you hear from guys is "damn, I started him in my fantasy league." On the other end, someone will claim to be a fan of a team, but be jumping up and down, thrilled because he started a player that just destroyed his real team.

[Thomkal]

And the Cards get their first TD of the season with a 1 yard Hightower run and lead 10-3

[Danny]

Should I go cry in my pillow instead? I'm not a Packers or Ryan Grant fan. Sucks for him of course if he is done, but people always pick out information that is relevant to them in some way.

[larrymcg421]

THIS is what a hate about "fantasy" football. A guy's season may be over (who knows from there) and all you hear from guys is "damn, I started him in my fantasy league." On the other end, someone will claim to be a fan of a team, but be jumping up and down, thrilled because he started a player that just destroyed his real team.

Let me know if you need a hand getting down from that horse.

[Scoobz0202]

Agreed, MGB. And this is coming from a big Fantasy Football guy. It's kind of why I avoid picking players from my own team and division rivals. The rivals is harder to do, but if I see equal value I'll take that just to avoid having to even consider rooting for the enemy.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

kolb looking strong. and by strong i mean he's had 3 picks dropped and just completed a pass to his center.

[Eaglesfan27]

kolb looking strong. and by strong i mean he's had 3 picks dropped and just completed a pass to his center.

Yeah, this has been the worst possible start to his career as a full time starter... I was always against trading McNabb and nothing that has happened today makes me change that stance.

[EagleFan]

Dear Andy Reid,

Keep that animal molestor on the sidelines and let your inexperienced QB try to get into the flow of the game!!! Kolb will never get going if you keep putting that jackass in every other play, especially when it looks like you have no clue what plays to call when he is in the game and are putting him in just to put him in!!!

[bhlloy]

Starting to hear some boos in Philly already... Kolb looks like a small school guy who has only started a couple of games in his career.

What's gotta be more worrying for Eagles fans is that Reid doesn't seem to trust him to throw down the field right now. Could see a lot more Michael Vick in the second half of this one.

[Thomkal]

And Bradford gets his first NFL touchdown to tie the Cards at ten at the half. Cards might as well forfeit the rest of their games this season if they can't beat a poor Rams team with a rookie QB in his first start.

[kingfc22]

Nix that good start by Smith. He looks lost out there and the Niners are watching this game sail away.

[Bearcat729]

Hmm Kolb out with a concussion. Thats not good.

[Thomkal]

Is Kolb hurt or they take him out? I knew he was injured earlier in the game.

[Thomkal]

Ah posted one minute too late

[EagleFan]

Or there is the other option, of going only with the creep. Unfortunately it's caused by a concussion but you need to let one QB get into the flow of the game. This every other play crap was idiotic.

[EagleFan]

This is looking like what I was afraid of, once the first Green Bay TD it would open the flood gates...

[Karlifornia]

The 49ers blow

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

vick looks fast again. so that's good.

[Young Drachma]

Let the QB controversy in Philly begin.

[Karlifornia]

Kevin Kolb can probably go back to the bench for good now.

[Vince, Pt. II]

I guess I can be less pissed at the ref and Crabtree if the Niners are going to suck ass like this as a whole. Jeez.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Let me know if you need a hand getting down from that horse.

I kinda like the view from up here. Thanks though! :D

[TroyF]

Honestly, after the call in the Lions game, I'm having a really difficult time watching the NFL right now. I think that one call may sap the entire season for me. If a rule is written so clear cut that what Johnson did isn't a catch, the rule is a joke and needs to go away.

Just horrible.

[EagleFan]

Honestly, after the call in the Lions game, I'm having a really difficult time watching the NFL right now. I think that one call may sap the entire season for me. If a rule is written so clear cut that what Johnson did isn't a catch, the rule is a joke and needs to go away.

Just horrible.

What happened?

[Scoobz0202]

What happened?

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Last play. Ruled no TD

[TroyF]

FWIW, I love Lovie. "I didn't even think it warranted review it was so obvious"

Lovie, I think you are an a$$hole and I'll never cheer for you again, ever. You could coach the Broncos and I'd cheer for 0-16. I'd have loved your reaction had Jay thrown the ball to Hester and that happened.

[GrantDawg]

Vick looked tight on that drive. I haven't seen most of this game, but I'd say Vick looks pretty good.

[Bearcat729]

I know he is dog abusing scum but as a Browns fan I would take Michael Vick over Jake Delhomme right now.

[EagleFan]

Uh, that's no catch. You have to control it though hitting the ground when you come down with the ball. It's the right call by the letter of the rule.

[MajikMan77]

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Last play. Ruled no TD

I'm confused how thats not a catch (without looking up NFL.com) :confused: Did they term it not in his possesion or something?

[EagleFan]

I know he is dog abusing scum but as a Browns fan I would take Michael Vick over Jake Delhomme right now.

This is going to lead to a painful QB controversy here now. I never cared for Kolb but I can't find myself cheering for that scumbag either.

Reid should notice that the team moves better with the game plan used this half instead of that crap he was calling in the first half. But he never sems to get that.

[Bearcat729]

I'm confused how thats not a catch (without looking up NFL.com) :confused: Did they term it not in his possesion or something?

If he had held the ball when he stood up then it would have been a catch. Since he left it on the ground when he got up to celebrate then it was rules incomplete, or so I have been lead to understand.

[GrantDawg]

We've traded this Aaron Rodgers with a Brett Farve. Let's see if anyone will notice....

[EagleFan]

I'm confused how thats not a catch (without looking up NFL.com) :confused: Did they term it not in his possesion or something?

The rule is that when making a catch along the sidelines or in the endzone the receiver must control the ball through hitting the ground, which he didn't in this case. Unless there has been a change to that rule that I don't know about.

[Scoobz0202]

I'm confused how thats not a catch (without looking up NFL.com) :confused: Did they term it not in his possesion or something?

Some rule with having to go through the whole process of catching the ball or something. By rule it's correct. A stupid fucking rule though

[EagleFan]

We've traded this Aaron Rodgers with a Brett Farve. Let's see if anyone will notice....

lol

[EagleFan]

Is Aikman on the Aaron Rogers PR department? Not saying that was a bad throw but "it probably got away from him because of teh moisture..."

[GrantDawg]

He kills dogs, hates kids, and pissed in supermans cherioes, but boy he can still sling a ball hard.

[GrantDawg]

He should have run that in.

[CU Tiger]

why Vick had an open path to the end zone and throws it away?!?!?!?

[EagleFan]

He should have run that in.

I don't get it at all, he had plenty of room to run.

[Young Drachma]

Yeah, he wishes he had that one back.

[GrantDawg]

I think it is one of two things:

1. Lack of play-time
2. Critics getting in his head. He wants to win with his arm.

[kingfc22]

Ahh bay area football is back! #%&@!!!!!!

[Young Drachma]

I think it is one of two things:

1. Lack of play-time
2. Critics getting in his head. He wants to win with his arm.

Agreed.

[Karlifornia]

I find myself rooting for Vick for some reason.

[Karlifornia]

2. Critics getting in his head. He wants to win with his arm.

I agree with this 100%

[GrantDawg]

Agreed.


And to be fair, when he was younger he would have ran it in. But, when he was younger he probably wouldn't have gotten that close, because he putting a touch on the ball tonight I didn't see him use in all the years he had in Atlanta. He is making good hard throws with touch.

[Vince, Pt. II]

So if I'm understanding this correctly, even though he was touched by a defender in the act of falling down, and thus would be down by contact as soon as any part of his body that isn't his hands or feet hits the ground, since it's the endzone, his ass hitting the ground doesn't end the play? He clearly had possession of the ball through impact with the ground via his ass, therefore from my perspective, play over. Why does the rule change in the end zone?

[CU Tiger]

I think on the CJ catch what puzzles me, is a two toe tap along the sidelines is a TD...the moment of possession the ball has crossed the plane. No football related move no BS....

The second he touched down with control the play should be over.

I understand the rule I just disagree with it.

[CU Tiger]

BTW...I think its pretty apparent Kolb is the better human being, Vick is the better QB

[EagleFan]

I think on the CJ catch what puzzles me, is a two toe tap along the sidelines is a TD...the moment of possession the ball has crossed the plane. No football related move no BS....

The second he touched down with control the play should be over.

I understand the rule I just disagree with it.

Two toe tap along the sidelines won't be a touchdown if the receiver is falling to the ground in the process and doesn't hang on when he hits the ground.

[EagleFan]

BTW...I think its pretty apparent Kolb is the better human being, Vick is the better QB

Not a fan of Kolb but there is no way that can be said as of yet. Vick was over-rated when he was a Falcon. He could run, that was about it.

[CU Tiger]

Two toe tap along the sidelines won't be a touchdown if the receiver is falling to the ground in the process and doesn't hang on when he hits the ground.


ok but what about if he hits the ground with possession and then stands up without the football...because clearly thats what happened here, at least to me.


CJ CHOSE to leave the ball on the ground it wasnt like he was juggling it.

[CU Tiger]

Not a fan of Kolb but there is no way that can be said as of yet. Vick was over-rated when he was a Falcon. He could run, that was about it.


Which is apparently 1 thing more than Kolb can do....

[EagleFan]

Which is apparently 1 thing more than Kolb can do....

You are basing that off what? One half with the worst play calling ever?

[Coffee Warlord]

The rule, was, I suppose, applied correctly. I do say it's a horseshit rule, and the Lions shoulda won.

And Lovie just floored me when he opted to not kick the FG on 4th and goal.

[CU Tiger]

just my opinion....

[Karlifornia]

Clay Matthews is money

[GrantDawg]

They are getting to him now.

[GrantDawg]

So, what do you do?

[sabotai]

So if I'm understanding this correctly, even though he was touched by a defender in the act of falling down, and thus would be down by contact as soon as any part of his body that isn't his hands or feet hits the ground, since it's the endzone, his ass hitting the ground doesn't end the play? He clearly had possession of the ball through impact with the ground via his ass, therefore from my perspective, play over. Why does the rule change in the end zone?

It doesn't change. No matter where you are on the field, if you are in the air and/or are falling to the ground when you catch the ball, you have to maintain control of the ball throughout the fall. He doesn't technically have "possession" until he does that.

[Bearcat729]

Clay Matthews is an excellent player

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Is Aikman on the Aaron Rogers PR department? Not saying that was a bad throw but "it probably got away from him because of teh moisture..."

1. I think with Aikman, no QB makes any mistake. EVER.

2. The Eagles look good today. Fashion-wise, i mean.

3. For the rest of the season I hope the Lions hold the ball after every single catch, only handing to a ref. after confirming with extreme politeness "May I give this to you now and have it count as a catch sir, or might it be ruled 'incomplete.'"

[Karlifornia]

Packers D steps up. They're the better team anyway. I was hoping to see a miracle comeback with Vick I guess.

[EagleFan]

just my opinion....

Not arguing that Kolb is anything at all but I was hoping to see if his two starts last year could be a sign of something. In those starts Reid didn't pull him out every other play to go with his crappy version of a wildcat and Kolb performed quite well (55 out of 85 for 718 yards).

[Bearcat729]

3. For the rest of the season I hope the Lions hold the ball after every single catch, only handing to a ref. after confirming with extreme politeness "May I give this to you now and have it count as a catch sir, or might it be ruled 'incomplete.'"

I want the players to be mic'd so that NFL films can make sure to have the audio for that.

[EagleFan]

3. For the rest of the season I hope the Lions hold the ball after every single catch, only handing to a ref. after confirming with extreme politeness "May I give this to you now and have it count as a catch sir, or might it be ruled 'incomplete.'"

The problem is that there needs to be rules like this, just like with the tuck rule. I certainly don't want the refs to start trying to make decisions based on what they think the player was trying to do. They make enough mistakes as it is. :)

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

this should be fun. iggles looked like a totally different team with vick.

[Karlifornia]

Bradford may wind up being the real deal. Gonna be tough to pull out this win, though...

[Karlifornia]

Two drops on this drive for the Rams...little help?

[EagleFan]

Do they think that you get a special bonus if you don't use your timeouts?

[kingfc22]

Horrible clock mgmt by the Rams

[mauchow]

Yeah, the Ram receivers are not helping Bradford lead his team to his first win as a pro.

[sabotai]

LOL, the announcer in the STL-ARI game just said something about the Rams kicking a FG....they're down by four.

The other guy finally corrects him after a play goes by.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

for those in need of wr help in ff, mark clayton just got picked up by the rams. should supplant laurent robinson as the #1 there.
you're welcome.

[EagleFan]

They wasted about 30 seconds on those two plays because they didn't use their timeouts.

[Karlifornia]

Horrible clock mgmt by the Rams

Yup..shoulda called that TO with like 30 seconds left

[EagleFan]

Are you kidding me? Who is calling these plays?

[Karlifornia]

Get your tall guys out there and hope for an ECU play

[EagleFan]

How many people would be screaming bug if in an FOF game a team ran the ball with 10 second left from the 40 when they were down by 4?

[Karlifornia]

Are you kidding me? Who is calling these plays?

Yeah that run was a very conservative call...it is kind of tough when it's 4th down..want to make sure you get at least one shot at the end zone

[Karlifornia]

How many people would be screaming bug if in an FOF game a team ran the ball with 10 second left from the 40 when they were down by 4?

lol very true

[EagleFan]

Yeah that run was a very conservative call...it is kind of tough when it's 4th down..want to make sure you get at least one shot at the end zone

If you are taking one shot at the endzone take it on 4th down. Does it matter if you are taking a 40 yard shot at the endzone or a 37 yard shot at it? If they had used their timeouts correctly they would have still had about 30 seconds left on that play and maybe could haverunit so they could hurry up to spike it and still have 2 or 3 shots left.

[EagleFan]

Rams have terrible AI... :)

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

great fantasy week for ol norv. in 2 leagues i'm collectively losing by about 200 points. fucking arian foster.

[Glengoyne]

Honestly, after the call in the Lions game, I'm having a really difficult time watching the NFL right now. I think that one call may sap the entire season for me. If a rule is written so clear cut that what Johnson did isn't a catch, the rule is a joke and needs to go away.

Just horrible.

I agree with you here. This is exactly why I didn't like the redefinition of what is a catch. The whole maintain control after contact with the ground BS. I don't really have an answer, but this is taking the ball out of the player's hands.

[Karlifornia]

If you are taking one shot at the endzone take it on 4th down. Does it matter if you are taking a 40 yard shot at the endzone or a 37 yard shot at it? If they had used their timeouts correctly they would have still had about 30 seconds left on that play and maybe could haverunit so they could hurry up to spike it and still have 2 or 3 shots left.

Ok, forgetting the screwed up clock management beforehand, if it's 4th and 1 with 10 seconds left, and you're at the 40, with one TO left, it could be argued to run it to get a bit closer and have time enough for one more play. If you don't have the timeout, obviously you chuck it on 4th down.

[cuervo72]

Gold pants!

[Bearcat729]

great fantasy week for ol norv. in 2 leagues i'm collectively losing by about 200 points. fucking arian foster.

I had him on the bench because I had Mendenhall and Jones Drew starting. Foster would have put me over the top this week by himself.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

fucking arian foster.

This is what Lindy's Pro Football Annual said about Foster:

"Rushed for 257 yards and three TDs last year with eight receptions."

Who'd have thunk his numbers would be similar at the end of week 1.

[Scoobz0202]

I didn't think he's be THAT good but I thought it was nuts that anybody would sit him.

[Scoobz0202]

Tim McGraw is one lucky S.O.B.

[mauchow]

Are you kidding me, Barber. Act like you've been there before. It was a TEN yard run, dude.

[bulletsponge]

i hate dallas's offensive co. hes way to fancy and smart for his own good

[bhlloy]

Clay Matthews is an excellent player

This is a guy who didn't get any D1 scholarship offers and walked on as a sub 180lb linebacker who didn't even start for his dad in HS. Great story.

Eerily similar to Lofa Tatupu, two guys who got a walk-on spot at USC because of their family connections and the rest is history.

[JPhillips]

I wonder what else might have helped Clay Matthews bulk up become a better player?

[Suicane75]

Yes. Because Roger Goodell ordered that flag to be called. You're a goofy sort.

Man, those Manning brothers just exude charisma, that was the greatest promo ever. I hope they replay it a good 4 or 5 more times tonight.

[wade moore]

You're a goofy sort.
lol

[jeff061]

I used to love making fun of the Manning whoredom with their shitty and numerous adds. Then god damn Brady did that Comcast ad. Fuck you Brady.

[DaddyTorgo]

I used to love making fun of the Manning whoredom with their shitty and numerous adds. Then god damn Brady did that Comcast ad. Fuck you Brady.

he did a comcast ad?

[jeff061]

Crappy quality. Brace yourself nonetheless.

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He needs prime viewing angles.
<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/gIuFc9wgSDI?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="385" width="480"></object>

[Bearcat729]

This is a guy who didn't get any D1 scholarship offers and walked on as a sub 180lb linebacker who didn't even start for his dad in HS. Great story.

Eerily similar to Lofa Tatupu, two guys who got a walk-on spot at USC because of their family connections and the rest is history.

As I watch him I wonder if he won't end up better than his father who was always one of my favorite players as a kid.

[Suicane75]

Wow, i've seen it, just never realized it was him.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

The one thing I learned today by watching commercials is that if I ever am in the Mojave desert & need to tow stuff up a strange metal track heading nowhere, I might need a Toyota truck.

On a side note, I used to work with a 6-foot tranny, but I never checked to see if he was aluminum.

[fpres]

This is what Lindy's Pro Football Annual said about Foster:

"Rushed for 257 yards and three TDs last year with eight receptions."

Who'd have thunk his numbers would be similar at the end of week 1.


Foster saw carries in only 4 games during the 2009 season as the Texans looked for anything possible to jumpstart their running game (30th in the league in rushing yards). He's been the team's clear first option throughout the offseason...today probably solidifies that. Sorry, Steve Slaton.

[Groundhog]

Man, watching that Calvin Johnson catch, really sucks that that wasn't ruled a TD. I see why it wasn't, but man...

[Big Fo]

Oh dear.

[mauchow]

FOR REAL!?

[Abe Sargent]

HAHA DALLAS YOU SUCK

[kingfc22]

MUAHHAHA

[bulletsponge]

ill say it again, i hate dallas's offensive coodinator. hes an idiot

[tucker rocky]

Uh, Dallas should've taken a knee. No chance there.

[CU Tiger]

un fucking believable

[Warhammer]

great fantasy week for ol norv. in 2 leagues i'm collectively losing by about 200 points. fucking arian foster.

I had him and Forte sitting on my FF bench! That's 70 points ON MY BENCH!

[Logan]

This is the only time I wish there was a camera on Jerry Jones' plastic face.

[Lathum]

I feel like a genius for starting Washingtons defense this week

[Warhammer]

Well, at least they might air it out in the second half.

[tucker rocky]

Washington fumbled the FG snap.
It's comedy I tell 'ya.

[jbergey22]

Cowboys play calling this game has been brutal.

[tucker rocky]

Dallas scored, fans rejoice.

[bulletsponge]

Dallas looks so much better when they commit to the run. thier OC always gets pass happy though so dont expect it to last no matter how good they are at it

[wade moore]

A) Man Portis is a great blocker.
B) Freakin' Santana.

[tarcone]

Is it me, or is the NFL lacking offense this season? Or maybe the defenses are outstanding?

[Suicane75]

The two prime time games have been that way. It skews your view. And you're probably stoned.

[Suicane75]

Same old Donovan, the good and the bad.

[larrymcg421]

Offense is love. Defense is not.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

jesus. if i was mcnabb my reads would be:

1. cooley
2. hot dog vendor

[Lathum]

Is it me, or is the NFL lacking offense this season? Or maybe the defenses are outstanding?

Don't know, I'll give you my opinion when its not halfway through week one.

[wade moore]

jesus. if i was mcnabb my reads would be:

1. cooley
2. hot dog vendor

+100000

[wade moore]

wow.

I so would have punted.

Good call Shanny.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Anybody else notice that Mike Shanahan doesn't seem to have used any sunblock in a while? Hey Mike, just because you coach the Redskins doesn't mean you have to have red skin. Just a note...

[wade moore]

Is it just me or have the neck "injuries" been brutal this weekend? Not necessarily serious, but a lot of worrisome hits.

[wade moore]

CARLOS ROGERS CAN'T CATCH.

[BishopMVP]

Announcers - the refs using the injury timeout for the Redskins 3rd one doesn't matter because the Redskins need that 3rd one, it matters because Dallas gets their 2nd back. Just FYI since it's your job and all.

[mauchow]

Ummm.. defense?

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

AWESOME DEFENSE

[larrymcg421]

Wow, what a great finish we have here. It's so great to have football back.

[wade moore]

It's so painful being a Skins fan sometimes.

[RendeR]

Loving the fog rolling in.

[CU Tiger]

TD...but a flag...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

penalty FTW!!!

[RendeR]

BWAHAHAHAHA Holding on the last play of the game, the game is over.

[BishopMVP]

Hahaha Alex Barron. Of course.

[wade moore]

I heart Alex Barron.

[RendeR]

Lets just choke hold someone and se if I get away with it....

[wade moore]

Although, if he doesn't hold, it's probably a sack.

[Abe Sargent]

HAHA COWBOYS YOU SUCK (again)

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Roy Williams sux, anybody?

[Matthean]

How 'bout them Cowboys!

[Scoobz0202]

Fucking offensive line. Same shit, different year. (Penalties and terrible offensive line)

[larrymcg421]

Well the mistake was less the hold and more getting completely fucking beat by Orakpo. At that point, a TD wasn't going to be scored no matter what.

[RendeR]

Oh and for all those crying about the Detroit game?

Don't yell at the refs, they got it right, everyone should be cringing at what an utter DUMBFUCK the receiver was for not playing to the whistle on the game ending play.

[stevew]

Orapko is a fuckin beast

[wade moore]

Well the mistake was less the hold and more getting completely fucking beat by Orakpo. At that point, a TD wasn't going to be scored no matter what.

Yeah, exactly - the "crime" was really getting worked. If he doesn't hold, Romo goes down anyways. I guess you might as well hope that the penalty doesn't get called.

[wade moore]

Orapko is a fuckin beast
I was excited when we drafted him, that excitement hasn't reduced in the 17 games I've seen him.

Trent Williams doesn't look so bad either.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

if i'm the skins i think long and hard about trading for vincent jackson. their wr's are not so good.

[Groundhog]

Oh and for all those crying about the Detroit game?

Don't yell at the refs, they got it right, everyone should be cringing at what an utter DUMBFUCK the receiver was for not playing to the whistle on the game ending play.

I don't know about "dumbfuck". Watching it again, I think he honestly dropped it or lost control of it at the last second and tried to make it look like he was celebrating. What he should've done was used his 2nd hand to grab hold of it properly.

[wade moore]

if i'm the skins i think long and hard about trading for vincent jackson. their wr's are not so good.

I hope we at least tried to get Housh - that would have been an upgrade with no cost in a trade.

[Warhammer]

Love that Barron was the one who got the penalty. Thank goodness the Rams got rid of him!

[Scoobz0202]

Hopefully the cowboys offensive line is at full health next week for the Bears. I'd really fucking hate to go into the Texans, Titans, Vikings, Giants stretch 0-2.

[Chief Rum]

Hopefully the cowboys offensive line is at full health next week for the Bears. I'd really fucking hate to go into the Texans, Titans, Vikings, Giants stretch 0-2.

Bears by all rights should have lost at home to a team that went 2-14 last year and lost its starting QB by halftime.

If the Boys need a healthy O-line to beat that, they have a lot more to worry about than their tough upcoming schedule.

[Shkspr]

if i'm the skins i think long and hard about trading for vincent jackson. their wr's are not so good.

Acquiring a disgruntled big name player who wants to get paid big $$$ - when has that ever blown up in the Redskins' face?

[Abe Sargent]

My favorite play today was this one from the Jaguars game. I don;t know if anyone noticed or mentioned it.

Tebow took his first NFL snap and carry, and then was stuffed. By whom? Tyson Alualu, the player the Jags took in the first round, that many were saying should have been Tebow. I thought it funny and interesting that the player the Jags went on a limb to draft instead of Tebow, was the one who stuffed Tebow on his first NFL carry.

[SackAttack]

I think on the CJ catch what puzzles me, is a two toe tap along the sidelines is a TD...the moment of possession the ball has crossed the plane. No football related move no BS....

The second he touched down with control the play should be over.

I understand the rule I just disagree with it.

Here's what I don't get. If a player dives for the end zone with the ball while carrying it, the minute it crosses the plane, it's a TD, correct?

So why all the "process" drama over a catch? Why are the two different?

[Butter]

Nice to see the Pats fans were on here burying the Bengals season.

I'm not trying to say they looked good despite the loss, or even that I thought it was fine, BUT I did have that game chalked up as a loss. Plus, you add to that that the Bengals had several slow starts last year, so I was not surprised that they came out flat and the Pats looked great. You would just think that the Bengals would realize that if you come out flat against a team of the Pats caliber, that they will step on your throat and break your neck, which is what they did.

Nice game by the Pats, but the Bengals are not done, Palmer is not through, and TO and CO are not about to blow-up. The Bengals lost to a better team on the road.

Whoopty-doo. The Pats did their job, let's have a ticker-tape parade.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Acquiring a disgruntled big name player who wants to get paid big $$$ - when has that ever blown up in the Redskins' face?
or just keep throwing fades to anthony armstrong. he'll catch one eventually.

in other news pft saying bob sanders is done for the season.

[Alan T]

I finally got to see parts of the Falcons game. Upset in how it ended. I know that it is tough to play on the road in Pittsburgh, and they have a good defense and all. The Falcons really need to score more points than that though. If the offense is supposed to carry this team, you have to put the points on the board to win against the tougher teams too (especially the ones missing their starting QB).

[Logan]

Here's what I don't get. If a player dives for the end zone with the ball while carrying it, the minute it crosses the plane, it's a TD, correct?

So why all the "process" drama over a catch? Why are the two different?

The player has already established possession (for 1 yard or 99) in your example, but in Megatron's case, he was in the act of establishing possession. Two completely different situations, completely different rules.