NFL PostSeason: Wild-card Round

[GrantDawg]

How is there not a thread? Go Seahawks!!!!

[spleen1015]

Rootin for the Seahawks, too!

[RendeR]

I refuse to root for a playoff team with a losing record.

[kingfc22]

And the 7-9 team starts off with a bang. LOL

[GrantDawg]

I refuse to root for a playoff team with a losing record.


You would if it means your team would then play them at home in the next round. :)

[frnk55]

I kinda hope Seattle wins. It would be funny. ;)

[GrantDawg]

Way to drop that ball, Bush. You over-rated piece of crap.

[Alan T]

I agree, go Seattle! :)

[JPhillips]

Is it too early to say the game's decided?

[frnk55]

Yawn..Maybe it's time for a movie.

[LloydLungs]

Is it too early to say the game's decided?

Yep. Saints have blown lots of big early leads to bad teams this year.

[kingfc22]

Is anybody going to play defense?

[whomario]

really impressive couple of plays by Hasselbeck, especially considering how horrible it started for him and all the discussion about him ahead of the game.

[cuervo72]

Dear Mr. Hammond,

STOP JIZZING EVERY TIME A FORMER NOTRE DAME PLAYER TOUCHES THE BALL.

k, Thx

[bhlloy]

I think I am a better NFL safety than Roman Harper. He's been at fault for at least 75% of the Seahawks succesful offensive plays so far.

Definitely the two worst defenses in an NFL playoff game I can remember so far. Gonna be who can score last or who can avoid a couple of turnovers.

[cuervo72]

You too, Mayock. I don't give a crap about this "Golden Domer" bs.

[kingfc22]

You too, Mayock. I don't give a crap about this "Golden Domer" bs.

Yea, this crew sucks. Nobody is watching because of Notre Dame. Last time I checked their season was over.

[Travis]

Funny how much quieter it gets around here when the score became competitive and how much busier it'll probably get if the Saints pull ahead in the second half.

But while the game is tight and good plays being made, crickets. Do that many enjoy ripping games/players that much more than enjoying what, to this point, has been a pretty well played game? Or is there just that few watching the game?

[SackAttack]

I'm surprised no flag on that shot to Hasselbeck after the TD.

[whomario]

this is a fun game to watch :) by now i really want Seattle to advance, too.

[Alan T]

Funny how much quieter it gets around here when the score became competitive and how much busier it'll probably get if the Saints pull ahead in the second half.

But while the game is tight and good plays being made, crickets. Do that many enjoy ripping games/players that much more than enjoying what, to this point, has been a pretty well played game? Or is there just that few watching the game?


I'm watching the game, but don't have much to say. I'm hoping Seattle wins and eliminates the Saints, so happy that right now they are winning. I'm not a Seattle fan or anything though, so it honestly doesn't matter too much to me if one wins or the other though.

[bhlloy]

Funny how much quieter it gets around here when the score became competitive and how much busier it'll probably get if the Saints pull ahead in the second half.

But while the game is tight and good plays being made, crickets. Do that many enjoy ripping games/players that much more than enjoying what, to this point, has been a pretty well played game? Or is there just that few watching the game?

You know it's possible to have a computer and a TV in the same room right?

It hasn't been a well played game, at least defensively. There were just four Saints players covering a 30 yard patch of grass while Stokely ran right past them, including the aforementioned Harper who is just having a nightmare. I'm sorry a discussion on a messageboard has offended your delicate sensibilities so much though :confused:

[RainMaker]

But while the game is tight and good plays being made, crickets. Do that many enjoy ripping games/players that much more than enjoying what, to this point, has been a pretty well played game? Or is there just that few watching the game?
Saturday afternoon is a weird time for the NFL and it's the poorest game of the 4 (at least perception wise). I wouldn't mind seeing Seattle win since there is a chance they'd get to play the Bears next week.

[Travis]

You know it's possible to have a computer and a TV in the same room right?

It hasn't been a well played game, at least defensively. There were just four Saints players covering a 30 yard patch of grass while Stokely ran right past them, including the aforementioned Harper who is just having a nightmare. I'm sorry a discussion on a messageboard has offended your delicate sensibilities so much though :confused:

Not offended, just a commentary. Read the start of this thread and you can look at the time stamps. Prior to the game there was a lot of commentary (radio, online, other threads here) how bad Seattle would get thumped. Game starts, the Saints take the lead, Hasselbeck throws the interception, Seattle goes down by 10 a second time and there's chatter.

Seattle comes back, ties up and takes the lead and the thread is pretty much dead.

I just find it interesting that there's more commentary when the early indications show that this might be a thumping, but once it turns into a pretty competitive back and forth game (which one would think would be a better game to watch even if a bit sloppy as you suggest), that's when it got a lot quieter here, hence my observation/comment.

[Travis]

Saturday afternoon is a weird time for the NFL and it's the poorest game of the 4 (at least perception wise). I wouldn't mind seeing Seattle win since there is a chance they'd get to play the Bears next week.

That'd be an interesting lead in given that the Seahawks were able to win already in Chicago this year already. My gf asked me today what the Seahawks chances were today (she's not into football really) and I told her that on their best day they can play with nearly any team in the league but that it'd surprise me if they had the consistency to be able to do so long enough to get deep into the playoffs. That said, if they can get through today, gain some confidence and go into a place they've already won without getting over confident, it'd make for a heck of a game.

I hope ;)

[Lathum]

Seattle still sucks

[SnowMan]

Loving the big middle finger the Hawks are giving the league right now.

[stevew]

it is XL-lent to see the Seachickens in the playoffs again.

[bhlloy]

OK, point taken. FWIW I don't think there was ever a chance the Seahawks were going to get thumped. New Orleans just isn't close to the same team they were last year and at Qwest anything can happen. But even I'm surprised at just how bad the Saints look defensively. Losing Malcolm Jenkins hurts a lot, their safety play has been horrific but still. Where did all the blitzing and the aggressive front seven go?

[Dutch]

Loving the big middle finger the Hawks are giving the league right now.

This really just proves that on any given Sunday, shitty teams can win and it also proves that the point of the regular season is no longer meant to ensure that shitty teams don't get a chance to prove that fact.

[SnowMan]

Also reinforces that you shouldn't overlook anyone, and the "good" teams should get work done to make sure those "shitty" teams don't sucker punch them.

[stevew]

Cosign about shitty teams.

[Travis]

OK, point taken. FWIW I don't think there was ever a chance the Seahawks were going to get thumped. New Orleans just isn't close to the same team they were last year and at Qwest anything can happen. But even I'm surprised at just how bad the Saints look defensively. Losing Malcolm Jenkins hurts a lot, their safety play has been horrific but still. Where did all the blitzing and the aggressive front seven go?

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if part of it was the Saints not wanting to tip too much of their game plan going forward (maybe some over confidence in what it would take to beat the Seahawks) combined with the Jekyl/Hyde nature of Hasselbeck this year so far. May have figured they wouldn't need to get that creative defensively to get a couple of turnovers and let the offense win the game. Guessing we'll see more of the pressure packages out of them starting in the second half. Also doesn't hurt that Seattle has used some quick hitters to try and dissuade the Saints from bringing too much pressure.

It's going to be an interesting second half as what I really fear is that the Seahawks continue to not get a lot of pressure on Brees and he goes off. The Seattle D needs to figure out a way to make him get out of his comfort zone and get some hits on him or else this lead could be really short lived.

[Lathum]

This really just proves that on any given Sunday, shitty teams can win and it also proves that the point of the regular season is no longer meant to ensure that shitty teams don't get a chance to prove that fact.

and sometimes on Saturday ;)

[stevew]

I actually hope the Saints lose because it will give Drew Brees a few extra weeks to clean up the oil spill

[whomario]

wow, this was an awesome play/call/throw !

i´m having fun watching this as a "not-so-regularly-watching" guy :popcorn:

[kingfc22]

Boom goes the dynamite!

[Ragone]

saints gonna lose this game, i really think they thought just showing up would win them the game this week

[Matthean]

Loving the big middle finger the Hawks are giving the league right now.

When the commish got interviewed some time ago about the playoffs he mentioned how people have talked about changing the seedings. He never mentioned changing the fact that regardless if you win your division you are in. In other words, Seattle would still be in if a possible rule change would happen. The only difference is that they would be the #6 seed. Only the Pats are the one team I feel remotely comfortable in saying they would win a game. The NFC is a complete roll of the dice. N.O. is good enough to blow them out, but it's a Saints team that has struggled a lot as well.

[RainMaker]

This really just proves that on any given Sunday, shitty teams can win and it also proves that the point of the regular season is no longer meant to ensure that shitty teams don't get a chance to prove that fact.
Parity. A 7-9 team isn't that far off from a 10-6 team, especially when they are playing in the loudest stadium in the NFL.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I actually hope the Saints lose because it will give Drew Brees a few extra weeks to clean up the oil spill

Well it isn't really fair, I mean if the rest of us could walk on water then we'd be able to handle the spill as easily as Drew "Chuck Norris" Brees.

[kingfc22]

Wow. Little early for that much desperation.

[panerd]

Wow these announcers are really bad. How could they miss the ref's signaling touchdown and the extra point special teams coming on to the field before finally figuring out a touchdown had been scored? Even their graphics department has touchdown on the screen and the score changed.

[panerd]

Now they are trying to justify why they missed the touchdown.

[frnk55]

Wow these announcers are really bad. How could they miss the ref's signaling touchdown and the extra point special teams coming on to the field before finally figuring out a touchdown had been scored? Even their graphics department has touchdown on the screen and the score changed.
Horrible announcers. Idiots.

[whomario]

Seahawk receivers with a couple baaaaaad plays in the 2nd half...

[panerd]

I have no horse in this race at all and it looks like Seattle has collapased. I could see New Orleans winning by double digits.

[Matthean]

I have no horse in this race at all and it looks like Seattle has collapased. I could see New Orleans winning by double digits.

While 17 points in 12 minutes is possible, it's unlikely.

[GrantDawg]

Saturday afternoon is a weird time for the NFL and it's the poorest game of the 4 (at least perception wise). I wouldn't mind seeing Seattle win since there is a chance they'd get to play the Bears next week.


Can you explain how they could play the Bears? The Falcons will get the lowest seed (which gets re-seeded before the games next week), and there is no way the Seahawks won't be the lowest seed.

[panerd]

Can you explain how they could play the Bears? The Falcons will get the lowest seed (which gets re-seeded before the games next week), and there is no way the Seahawks won't be the lowest seed.

I think they stay #4 even though they are the worst team. I vaguely remember something similar happening a few years ago. Cardinals maybe?

[panerd]

In fact they could host another playoff game.

[whomario]

holy hell, now that was just awesome :bowdown:

[RainMaker]

That's the greatest run I've ever seen.

[Eaglesfan27]

Wow. What a run!

[panerd]

Wow that was one of the greatest runs I have ever seen.

[GrantDawg]

Bouncy bouncy bouncy bouncy, fun fun fun fun fun fun.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

BEEEEEEEF MODE!!!!!

[Young Drachma]

Bad ass.

[Lathum]

Wow, Saints couldn't stop him and they knew it was coming

[Danny]

Amazing run!

[whomario]

that was just like the last play in a football film with the whole team blocking at the end :)

[RainMaker]

Can you explain how they could play the Bears? The Falcons will get the lowest seed (which gets re-seeded before the games next week), and there is no way the Seahawks won't be the lowest seed.
Wouldn't the Packers be the lowest seed if they win? So they would go to Atlanta and Seattle to Chicago.

[Ragone]

my two team parlay with seahawks and colts is looking pretty good now..

[Racer]

That was the sickest stiff arm I've ever seen.

[sabotai]

That was the sickest stiff arm I've ever seen.

Typical overpowered Madden stiff arm!

[Danny]

Wouldn't the Packers be the lowest seed if they win? So they would go to Atlanta and Seattle to Chicago.

It's reseeded based on record I believe, so Seahawks will be #6 next week.

[Radii]

Wouldn't the Packers be the lowest seed if they win? So they would go to Atlanta and Seattle to Chicago.

Yup.

[MIJB#19]

It's reseeded based on record I believe, so Seahawks will be #6 next week.You mean they changed the seeding rules this season?

[Matthean]

In fact they could host another playoff game.

Edited out considering they would play Chicago.

[GrantDawg]

It's reseeded based on record I believe, so Seahawks will be #6 next week.


That's my understanding as well. This year, the division round is re-seeded based on record, making the Seahawks the lowest possible seed.

[whomario]

people will focus on what the Saints did wrong, but i prefer to see that the Seahawks played with amazing effort all night and had some stretches of great offensive football.
Big time Underdog playing with tons of effort and a great atmmosphere still make for some of the best games in any sport :) Hope they pull it out ...

[Radii]

errm, I was 100% sure it was based on seed, but now I'm questioning myself. Surely we can find this for sure somewhere.

[Young Drachma]

that was just like the last play in a football film with the whole team blocking at the end :)

I was just saying that to my brother during the play.

[panerd]

It's reseeded based on record I believe, so Seahawks will be #6 next week.

No they keep their original seed. I looked up the Arizona Cardinals and that is exactly what happened. They hosted the NFC Championship game.

[stevew]

No. It is reseeded based on seeds.

[Danny]

You mean they changed the seeding rules this season?

I think that's the way it works, but I am not 100% sure by any means.

[Young Drachma]

errm, I was 100% sure it was based on seed, but now I'm questioning myself. Surely we can find this for sure somewhere.

This is the 4-5 game, these teams go on the road no matter who wins.

[RainMaker]

It's reseeded based on record I believe, so Seahawks will be #6 next week.
I don't think that is correct. Not 100% sure, but always thought seeds remained throughout.

[Danny]

I don't think that is correct. Not 100% sure, but always thought seeds remained throughout.

I'm definitely not sure either. You would think we could find somewhere that says for sure.

[panerd]

This is the 4-5 game, these teams go on the road no matter who wins.

Right but someone said the Seahawks couldn't play the Bears and they definitely can if the Seahawks and Packers win. The #6 Packers will play the #1 Falcons.

[panerd]

I'm definitely not sure either. You would think we could find somewhere that says for sure.

Third try: 2008 NFC Playoffs

[stevew]

Cue hours of discussion if the Saints score as to whether they go for 2 or not.

[Young Drachma]

Welp, that settles that.

[sabotai]

That was one of the worst onside kicks I've ever seen!

[kingfc22]

That onside kick was pathetic.

[Danny]

Third try: 2008 NFC Playoffs

I saw your post, but that didn't guarantee a rule wasn't changed. After looking though, it appears no rule has changed and the seeding stays the same.

[JonInMiddleGA]

This article seems to indicate that at least one Falcon (Roddy White) is hoping to get Seattle, which would happen unless GB upsets Philly.
Falcons hem and haw on next opponent, but White makes it clear he wants Seahawks in 2nd round (http://www.greenfieldreporter.com/view/story/fe26b6aa49e44446ae6b5bc4cf2810f4/FBN--Falcons-Whos_Next/)

[MIJB#19]

Did some quick browsing at the NFL website and there's no mentioning of re-seeding in the seeding procedures. I think it's safe to say that it'll be:
Philly @ Chicago or Green Bay @ Atlanta. The other game will be Seattle/New Orleans @ whomever doesn't host the Philly/Green Bay winner.

I'd also like to state that this game sounds like a fun one to watch on tv, rather over game log updates... :(

[Young Drachma]

Oh right, Green Bay is the 6th seed. Got it.

[Young Drachma]

Did some quick browsing at the NFL website and there's no mentioning of re-seeding in the seeding procedures. I think it's safe to say that it'll be:
Philly @ Chicago or Green Bay @ Atlanta. The other game will be Seattle/New Orleans @ whomever doesn't host the Philly/Green Bay winner.

I'd also like to state that this game sounds like a fun one to watch on tv, rather over game log updates... :(

It is, incidentally.

atdhe.net for future reference.

[Young Drachma]

Welp, they pulled it out. What a game.

[MizzouRah]

That's the greatest run I've ever seen.

That was freaking AWESOME!

[Matthean]

Did some quick browsing at the NFL website and there's no mentioning of re-seeding in the seeding procedures. I think it's safe to say that it'll be:
Philly @ Chicago or Green Bay @ Atlanta. The other game will be Seattle/New Orleans @ whomever doesn't host the Philly/Green Bay winner.

I'd also like to state that this game sounds like a fun one to watch on tv, rather over game log updates... :(

NFL Schedule: Playoffs (http://www.nfl.com/schedules)

Seattle vs. Atlanta.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

fucking awesome game. i could watch that run a million times.

[bhlloy]

Fitting end to a wacky game right there. Grats to the Seahawks who deserved to win.

For a guy who is the chic pick to take a head coaching job I thought Gregg Williams laid a giant egg today. Late on when the Saints needed to blitz they looked like the defense that shut down Manning and Favre again, but for most of the game it was just vanilla, sit back and let Hasselbeck pick you apart.

[RainMaker]

Statistically, the Seahawks and particularly Hasselbeck have been one of the best in the league against the blitz. I think thats why Williams held back.

[MIJB#19]

NFL Schedule: Playoffs (http://www.nfl.com/schedules)

Seattle vs. Atlanta.I think you're reading that wrong. It only works that way if the 3rd seed beats the 6th seed. If the 6th seed wins (which is Green Bay) then that team will play at the #1 seed (which is Atlanta).

[thesloppy]

Fun game! As an Oregonian I feel required to hate on the Hawks during the regular season, but I'm totally on the wagon now.

I am STILL baffled after learning that Pete Carrol is the NFL's 2nd oldest coach a couple weeks ago.

[spleen1015]

As far as I know, Atlanta plays the lowest seed. So, if Philly wins, Seattle goes to Atlanta.

[Front Office Midget]

Why is seeding so hard for so many on the Internet to understand?

The Seahawks are the #4 seed. The Packers are the #6 seed. If the Packers win, the Seahawks play the #3 Bears. Seems pretty simple.

[jeff061]

What a damned game that was. Glad I decided to watch, I was going to skip over it and check out the Colts game.

Now the Colts game is killing me. I really want Manning out of the picture cause I'm way more scared of him than I am of the Jets. But I hate the fucking Jets.

Looks like I'm actually rooting for the Colts here, first time ever.

[SnowMan]

I'm still reeling at that run by Lynch. I've never seen anything like it.

[MajikMan77]

Best run since McClain's against the Cowboys.

[bhlloy]

Statistically, the Seahawks and particularly Hasselbeck have been one of the best in the league against the blitz. I think thats why Williams held back.

Statistically, they got their ass kicked today and looked great in the fourth against the pass when they started blitzing again. Maybe a valid reason why the gameplan started out as that, but you have to adjust when your guys are just getting picked apart.

No disrespect intended towards the Seahawks but if you are the next great defensive mind you can't give up close to 300 yards passing to that offense in the playoffs.

[GrantDawg]

Why is seeding so hard for so many on the Internet to understand?

The Seahawks are the #4 seed. The Packers are the #6 seed. If the Packers win, the Seahawks play the #3 Bears. Seems pretty simple.


It is not. It is the fact that every talking head on radio this week said that the division round is "reseeded." That would suggest to me that the current seeding is reshuffled, but it appears that it doesn't. Why say "reseed" if the seeding is the same?

[MIJB#19]

Btw, to make things more confusing: NFL Tie-Breaking Procedures (http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures)

There always used to be an explanation there that the 6th seed plays at the 1st seed and the 3rd seed at the 2nd seed, but apparently they deleted stuff from that file and the draft order procedure is now listed under playoffs meeting procedures. :D

[cougarfreak]

Man...........Tim McGraw is one lucky SOB.

[Matthean]

I think you're reading that wrong. It only works that way if the 3rd seed beats the 6th seed. If the 6th seed wins (which is Green Bay) then that team will play at the #1 seed (which is Atlanta).

Then that's a horrible way to diagram it. They clearly show the NO/Seattle winner going to Atlanta and the GB/Philly winner going to Chicago.

[Mustang]

There is no reseeding... not even sure how that was brought up.

If Packers win they would play Atlanta and Chicago plays Seattle. If Philly wins, they play Chicago and Atlanta plays Seattle.

[MIJB#19]

Then that's a horrible way to diagram it. They clearly show the NO/Seattle winner going to Atlanta and the GB/Philly winner going to Chicago.Yeah, I agree, it's confusing. The diagram works out well if the 3rd seeds in both the 3 vs 6 games win. But if one of the 3s doesn't win, the diagram for that conference will be out of whack or needs some fixing.

[panerd]

Yeah I haven't changed the channel so I can rewind my DVR. And I have watched it about 10 times. It is like Tecmo Bowl Bo Jackson the way he breaks tackles, especially the stiff arm that would require serious hitting of button A back in the day.

[Front Office Midget]

It is not. It is the fact that every talking head on radio this week said that the division round is "reseeded." That would suggest to me that the current seeding is reshuffled, but it appears that it doesn't. Why say "reseed" if the seeding is the same?

I don't know. I was wondering why that term has been getting tossed around myself.

Unless there was an obscure rule change that was not announced to the vast majority of us and has no apparent Internet documentation, the seeding remains the same as it always had.

[panerd]

I don't know. I was wondering why that term has been getting tossed around myself.

Unless there was an obscure rule change that was not announced to the vast majority of us and has no apparent Internet documentation, the seeding remains the same as it always had.

I think what they mean by reseeding is that the best team plays the lowest seed remaining. Not sure why they call that reseeding but that is what I always assumed they were talking about. (Basically the point is that #4 vs #5 doesn't automatically go to Atlanta)

[molson]

I never thought about the re-seeding terminology, but ya, "re-bracketed" would be more accurate.

[Travis]

I've rewatched that Lynch run at least 10 times now, that is one of the sickest stiff arms I've ever seen. I don't think I even ended up cheering on that touchdown as my jaw dropped and I just wanted them to get to the replay so I could see it again.

[Matthean]

Yeah I haven't changed the channel so I can rewind my DVR. And I have watched it about 10 times. It is like Tecmo Bowl Bo Jackson the way he breaks tackles, especially the stiff arm that would require serious hitting of button A back in the day.

NFL Game Center: New Orleans Saints at Seattle Seahawks - 2010 Wild Card Weekend (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011010801/2010/POST18/saints@seahawks/watch)

I can't seem to direct link to it, but it's there for repeat viewing. Been having trouble direct clicking on it so I assume the site is getting hammered.

[Lathum]

Terrible challenge by Caldwell but they should give the Colts the ball based on Holmes stupidity

[Radii]

I don't think Holmes touched that punt but standing there watching it roll through his legs is just incredibly stupid, wow.

[Buccaneer]

Awesome run but don't care for the crotch grab at the end. Very unclassy.

[MIJB#19]

Just caught Marshawn Lynch's run through the NFL website. What jumped out to me, apart from the tackle breaking, shoving off defenders and Lynch's other moves, was that Hasselbeck also sprinted downfield to help block for Lynch.

[Matthean]

Yeah, I agree, it's confusing. The diagram works out well if the 3rd seeds in both the 3 vs 6 games win. But if one of the 3s doesn't win, the diagram for that conference will be out of whack or needs some fixing.

What's next: Seattle heads to Atlanta or Chicago in the divisional round.

Grabbed that from ESPN. Yep, horrible diagram.

[panerd]

Awesome run but don't care for the crotch grab at the end. Very unclassy.

I am sort of with you but the crotch grab to me shows how motivated this team was to win this game. That run is pure "Fuck you world" motivation in my mind. I don't cheer for it at all but IMO it is raw emotion and not just a Chad Johnson choreographed dance?

[whomario]

Just caught Marshawn Lynch's run through the NFL website. What jumped out to me, apart from the tackle breaking, shoving off defenders and Lynch's other moves, was that Hasselbeck also sprinted downfield to help block for Lynch.

agreed, that was really cool :) the only thing that could have made this game by Hasselbeck any better would be that it a) were the super bowl and not the wildcard-game or b) he´d scored the game winning TD on a run by himself.
One of the most inspiring performances i´ve seen in any sport recently, especially considering the circumstances.
The guy was injured, then didn´t know for a while if he´d start, then gets intercepted on one of his first plays (not his fault, but still) and then makes one great throw after the other and after quite a few terrible plays by his receivers makes a huge throw and then finally gets a break with that run.

For some reason he was one of those guys i allways seemed to pull for when i happened to watch the Seahawks over the years, maybe because he allways seemed so "normal" with relatively (!) little natural talent.

[thesloppy]

That run was totally awesome as was Hasslebeck's effort, and it's a ticky-tack flag that I'm glad it wasn't called, but didn't he (and the other lineman) block that dude in the back?

[EagleFan]

Just caught Marshawn Lynch's run through the NFL website. What jumped out to me, apart from the tackle breaking, shoving off defenders and Lynch's other moves, was that Hasselbeck also sprinted downfield to help block for Lynch.

I loved that stiff arm too, that defender is going to hate seeing those replays over and over.

[Lathum]

Sanchez sucks

[TroyF]

I'm completely stumped at how Sanchez continually avoids major criticism from announcers or Rex Ryan.

Ryan tells the sideline reporter that Peyton Manning couldn't have thrown under the pressure Sanchez has been under.

Are you kidding me? I'm not going to say he hasn't been under pressure, but he's been terrible today. There was no pressure at all on the INT at the end of the half. He can't throw a 3 yard out with any degree of accuracy. He makes one good throw every three passes and people want to continue to lay blame elsewhere.

If it wasn't for the Jets defense and his ground game, he would be Alex freakin Smith,

[fantom1979]

I'm completely stumped at how Sanchez continually avoids major criticism from announcers or Rex Ryan.


... because he is a second year quarterback with a 21-13 record? As I am sure you know, winning is everything. No matter if they win because of him or in spite of him.

[bulletsponge]

what a dumbass!

[Lathum]

OMG, what a stupid play.

[sabotai]

And there's a Colts player who will be cut before the game ends.

[Big Fo]

What a crappy way to give up a first down in such a key moment.

[spleen1015]

He was pushed, but there's still no excuse for that shit when it is Manning getting the ball back.

[TroyF]

... because he is a second year quarterback with a 21-13 record? As I am sure you know, winning is everything. No matter if they win because of him or in spite of him.

And he's come up big in the clutch on some occasions. . . but his overall body of work is just horrible. The Jets have to pray that their running game is never controlled. If it is, they are done.

[Lathum]

I feel pretty bad for the dude.

[TroyF]

they called the perfect play there and Sanchez just choked the throw.

[PilotMan]

Sanchez sucks

+1

[CU Tiger]

2:45...down 1.... and Peyton gets the ball... Rex could probably use some toes right about now...

[Lathum]

I've seen this before and know how it ends

[Big Fo]

I am so tired of NBC showing Fireman Ed every other series.

[PilotMan]

This game is over. Colts will win.

[rowech]

Even if that dude catches it and scores TD you give Manning the ball back. Just go for the 1st down and put it way...dumb...dumb...dumb.

[Lathum]

Even if that dude catches it and scores TD you give Manning the ball back. Just go for the 1st down and put it way...dumb...dumb...dumb.

Yeah, really terrible call there. You are supposed to have this big, bad defense. Run the ball, make them use their last timeout, punt, and put your D on the field to win the game.

[Lathum]

If I see one more commercial for that stupid Cape show I am gonna kick a puppy.

[Lathum]

Time to bring up the "does clutch exist" argument.

[CU Tiger]

So now we get to see what Sanchez has...sure would be funny if he makes a few of those he sucks posters look bad before the night is over...(probably wont happen though, and I have money on the Colts it 1.5 so I hope like hell it doesnt)

[Lathum]

Great return.

[Lathum]

So now we get to see what Sanchez has...sure would be funny if he makes a few of those he sucks posters look bad before the night is over...

Why?

A good drive here doesn't erase the terrible throws he has made this game. He has missed badly on about 6-7 passes that if he completes the Jets likely win comfortably.

[spleen1015]

Great return.

Steve Mariucci said the Colts bad punt/kickoff coverage will be a liability today. Looks like that may be the case with that last return.

[Eaglesfan27]

So now we get to see what Sanchez has...sure would be funny if he makes a few of those he sucks posters look bad before the night is over...(probably wont happen though, and I have money on the Colts it 1.5 so I hope like hell it doesnt)

I'm looking forward to him making them look bad and think he will do it. Off to a good start here.

[fantom1979]

Colts timeout? Interesting... I don't think I would have used that with Folk as the Jets kicker

[Danny]

Dumb timeout

[Lathum]

That could have been offensive PI.

[spleen1015]

That could have been offensive PI.

Absolutely.

[Abe Sargent]

And thats teh Colts saying goodbye

[PilotMan]

Good grief.

[bronconick]

That could have been offensive PI.


Maybe before Bill Polian had the rules changed to protect his wide recievers more. Whoops.

[Young Drachma]

Didn't think we'd get the win, but we'll take it.

[Lathum]

Sanchez made 2 big throws when he needed to but it doesn't change the fact he was dreadful a good portion of the game.

FWIW I was rooting for the Jets and glad they won.

[CU Tiger]

wow....tomorrow's games have a tough act to follow

[fantom1979]

:party:

[Buccaneer]

Fuckin' Jets and that loudmouth coach.

[Scoobz0202]

Bill Belichick vs Rex Ryan. Fuck. They can't both lose, can they?

[bulletsponge]

not suprising. manning loses in the playoffs every year. he didnt have Sanders to carry them.

why do the Colts always underachieve in the playoffs. they are always in it, homefeild advantage. yet always go out losing only scoring 14 or so points. if manning was so great would get more than 1 td drive a playoff game

[Big Fo]

Ugh, the Patriots and Jets will be playing next weekend, my two least favorite teams. At least one of them will lose I suppose.

[rowech]

The last few years are continuing to show that the idea of homefield advantage in the playoffs is not nearly as big of a deal as people think it is.

[tucker rocky]

This game is over. Colts lost. :devil:

fixed. :devil:

[spleen1015]

not suprising. manning loses in the playoffs every year. he didnt have Sanders to carry them.

why do the Colts always underachieve in the playoffs. they are always in it, homefeild advantage. yet always go out losing only scoring 14 or so points. if manning was so great would get more than 1 td drive a playoff game

It has nothing to do with the defense letting the Jets have 2 drives over 8 minutes in the 2nd half.

[fantom1979]

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[spleen1015]

I want to see someone challenge Revis. They didn't throw in his direction all game long. He left the inside routes open all day. Throw that shit over there.

[jeff061]

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If this was in Foxborough someone would have called security on that guy leading the chants and he would have been kicked out and lost his season tickets(if he has them).

Gillette sucks.

[Matthean]

not suprising. manning loses in the playoffs every year. he didnt have Sanders to carry them.

why do the Colts always underachieve in the playoffs. they are always in it, homefeild advantage. yet always go out losing only scoring 14 or so points. if manning was so great would get more than 1 td drive a playoff game

Manning had a 108.7 QB rating for the game. I think it's kind of hard to really point blame at him considering it was the Colts D that gave up the game winning drive and gave up 169 yards rushing. The Colts themselves had a mere 3.4 yards per carry as well so it's not like they were helping Manning. This isn't a vintage Colts team either. Even with getting some players back, they still are rather banged up. The Colts offensive isn't exactly been known for being innovative. It's been beaten around the bush that the Colts run a rather vanilla offense. See the Saints defensive game plan that had them changing up how they attacked the offense and how it eventually got to Manning.

The last few years are continuing to show that the idea of homefield advantage in the playoffs is not nearly as big of a deal as people think it is.

Seattle might not win if they were on the road. I don't think it was surprising at all for the Jets to win. However, the Sports Guy has covered the issue of the newer stadiums lacking home field advantage and the Colts are one good example of a team that has a harder time now playing at home.

[B & B]

I want to see someone challenge Revis. They didn't throw in his direction all game long. He left the inside routes open all day. Throw that shit over there.

No.


Continue to roll in the cash going against the WR on Revis island and build an empire.

[Raiders Army]

Revis Island is overrated. Maybe it was during the first half or so, I can't remember, but he had safety help 40% of the time.

[MIJB#19]

In the 2010 regular season the home teams went 143-113 for winning 55.9% of the time. Home field advantage usually is around that 5/9th mark, so that sounds like the 2010 regular season has been right on par. With 256 games, that's a decent enough sample size (I think) to say that everything appears to be the same old.

For the playoffs, I tracked back through the first season with 12 teams in the playoffs (1989 regular season) and since then the home teams went 142-68 for winning 67.6% of the time. But I think that puts apples and oranges in the same basket, as the league format changed per the 2002 regular season from 6 to 8 divisions (ignoring other factors for a bit) and it shows as half of the 5th seeds since 2002 had a better record than the 4th seed they faced (before 2002 the 4th seed always was a wild card team with an equal or better record than the 5th seed).

If we're only tracking playoff games through the 2002/2003 season, we'll see a 48-32 record for the home teams (that's 60.0%). In 59 games the home team had a better regular season record, in 12 games those records were the same and in 9 games the road team had a better record. I think looking any deeper will be tricky, due to sample size issues. 80 games is small enough as it is, but that's all that there is to measure.

[EagleFan]

Two things still but me about the second to last play in last night's game (seeing the replays and it still bugs me).

First, poorly missed offensive pass interference call on that play. He shoves the defender out of the picture to get open.

Second, the clock should have stopped. It was a catch as his feet/ knees came down in bounds but then hit upper body lands out of bounds, hence he is out of bounds and the clock should stop. It doesn't matter that he feet and knees were in bounds at that point as he was not touched so the play was not over when his knee came down, it should have been over when he hit out of bounds (hence the clock should have stopped).

The second issues means they need to either run another play (and as we know anything can still happen) or kick with enough time left to give the Colts possibly a couple plays.

[EagleFan]

Sanchez made 2 big throws when he needed to but it doesn't change the fact he was dreadful a good portion of the game.

FWIW I was rooting for the Jets and glad they won.

Sanchez is a hack.

[stevew]

The second issues means they need to either run another play (and as we know anything can still happen) or kick with enough time left to give the Colts possibly a couple plays.

With a timeout in their pocket, the Jets could have just victory formation kneeled the next snap and called the timeout at 2 seconds.

[EagleFan]

What am I missing about celebrating a championship? When does body slamming a buddy become a good way to celebrate?

(sorry, that part of the commercial bugs the crap out of me)

[ColtCrazy]

Manning had a 108.7 QB rating for the game. I think it's kind of hard to really point blame at him considering it was the Colts D that gave up the game winning drive and gave up 169 yards rushing. The Colts themselves had a mere 3.4 yards per carry as well so it's not like they were helping Manning. This isn't a vintage Colts team either. Even with getting some players back, they still are rather banged up. The Colts offensive isn't exactly been known for being innovative. It's been beaten around the bush that the Colts run a rather vanilla offense. See the Saints defensive game plan that had them changing up how they attacked the offense and how it eventually got to Manning.



Seattle might not win if they were on the road. I don't think it was surprising at all for the Jets to win. However, the Sports Guy has covered the issue of the newer stadiums lacking home field advantage and the Colts are one good example of a team that has a harder time now playing at home.

Exactly. Yes, I'm a Colts fan, but you can't blame that game on Manning at all. He did everything you needed him to do considering the Jets didn't blitz much but fell back into coverage to stop the pass. The only fault with the passing game was the reluctance to pass to Wayne (He was livid post-game) because I think the slant route and drag route he is good at was there last night.

Manning was on target. Trouble was, offensively, that the Jets dared the Colts to run. They were decent, but not as dominating as they had been in the last few weeks. Overall, though, the offense did enough to win the game. No Clark, Collie, Diem, and basically a non-factor Wayne...yeah, they did enough.

Special Teams lost this game followed closely by the defense. If the Colts field that last kick inside at least the 30, they win. Sanchez wasn't going to bring them back.

I had no illusions this year's Colts team was going anywhere. 18 guys ended up on IR including the starting TE, best slot receiver, projected starting wideout, both starting corners, both starting outside linebackers, 2 safeties, and then going into the game they scratched the starting RT and DT. They weren't going anywhere.

But they should have won that game. Damn ST and Defense.

Now, observation about the Jets. Defensively they are solid, but the Pats may find some areas to exploit. The Colts passed the ball well targeting just 3 receivers (Garcon, Tamme, and White). The Pats will have a lot more to throw at them.

Offensively, they looked great in the 2nd half and Ryan needs to do the same thing in New England. Pound it and hope the game doesn't fall into the hands of Sanchez. He looked horrible in the first half and only settled down when the run game took some pressure off.

[EagleFan]

With a timeout in their pocket, the Jets could have just victory formation kneeled the next snap and called the timeout at 2 seconds.

Not with Rex Ryan as their coach... :)

[RainMaker]

The Colts-Jets game did a 20.8 rating. Highest in 20 years for a Saturday night Wild Card game.

[bhlloy]

Todd Haley is an idiot. Why in gods name would you challenge that? Even if it wasn't obviously a first down, it wasn't that big a play 10 minutes into the game

[kingfc22]

I wish Wild Card weekend was every week. This level of play is always fun to watch.

[Lathum]

Chiefs self destructing

[kingfc22]

KC needs to protect the damn ball.

[kingfc22]

Chiefs need special teams or Charles to provide another big play to get them back in this. I don't see them grinding it out the way Baltimore is playing defense right now.

[stevew]

The Chiefs are who we thought they were?

[stevew]

Just piling on at this point.

[Crapshoot]

The Fat lady has started to sing...

[stevew]

And there it is.

[AFShadow]

Geez Steelers Ravens Pats and Jets are the four AFC teams left which is also the four teams I hate the most.

[kingfc22]

That is horrible awareness on Underwood's part. That just cannot happen especially in a playoff game.

[cuervo72]

I'm rather surprised they let Philly keep that, I'd have thought for sure they'd have ruled he was pushed into the ball.

[tucker rocky]

GB with the early mistake.
Eagles punting, but GB player touched the ball incidentally.
Eagles ball.

[EagleFan]

Crap, I have a BAD feeling about this game...

[tucker rocky]

Even one of the best kickers couldn't make that into the wind.

[Fonzie]

I'm rather surprised they let Philly keep that, I'd have thought for sure they'd have ruled he was pushed into the ball.

Yeah. At the very least they should've blown the ball dead before Underwood was dragged onto the ball. Weird call, but then again Underwood had no business being where he was.

[kingfc22]

Yeah. At the very least they should've blown the ball dead before Underwood was dragged onto the ball.

The ball was still in motion, albeit just rocking, so that is why it wasn't blown dead.

[Fonzie]

Jennings needs to catch that ball. That drop most likely cost the Pack at least 3 points.

[tucker rocky]

Sloppy and chippy so far.

[tucker rocky]

Seems Andy Reid has become larger lately.

[Fonzie]

Seems Andy Reid has become larger lately.

You can almost hear him getting fatter.

[cuervo72]

Crap, I have a BAD feeling about this game...

Me too. I usually have bad feelings about Eagles games, but this feels like one where the offense doesn't get it going and the defense doesn't provide the big stops/turnovers.

[Fonzie]

Pack got incredibly lucky on that Kuhn fumble.

[Crapshoot]

Seems Andy Reid has become larger lately.

haven't you noticed the difference in the Earth's tilt?

[Crapshoot]

14-0. wHOA.

[Fonzie]

14-0. wHOA.

As a Packers fan, I am contractually obligated to remind everyone that the Pack also held a 14-0 lead against the Eagles in the infamous 4th & 26 game from 2004.

[tucker rocky]

Oh, oh, look refs, a roughing the passer. <.....(just kidding)

[tucker rocky]

Ok Eagles, time to stop grazing out there like cows in the pasture.

[stevew]

Oh, oh, look refs, a roughing the passer. <.....(just kidding)

Vick must have spent a lot of time watching soccer this summer.

[sabotai]

You can almost hear him getting fatter.

You should see his press conferences. The guy can't say more than 2 words before inhaling or exhaling heavily.

[stevew]

As a Packers fan, I am contractually obligated to remind everyone that the Pack also held a 14-0 lead against the Eagles in the infamous 4th & 26 game from 2004.

LOL, Joe Fuck just said the same thing.

[stevew]

I'm pretty sure James Jones wasn't allowed to hold his first born until the kid was 2 years old.

[tucker rocky]

Lucky break for the Eagles there, with that drop.

[Fonzie]

Yeah, that was brutal. Packers receivers have now taken at least 10 points off the board today with drops.

[Lathum]

That drop cost me some coin:mad:

[stevew]

Matt Cassell had a rating of 20.3 today, I believe.

[Eaglesfan27]

Huge momentum shift.

[Fonzie]

As a Packers fan, I am contractually obligated to remind everyone that the Pack also held a 14-0 lead against the Eagles in the infamous 4th & 26 game from 2004.

*sigh*

[tucker rocky]

There you go Eagles, get the fans back into the game.

[MajikMan77]

Nicely executed screen play by Jackson :)

[Mustang]

Thank you Akers.

[jbergey22]

NFL coaches are so dumb.

You go for it there. You need a yard. Best case scenario if you kick it is you still need 2 yards later for a 2 point conversion to tie it up with much less space to operate.

[GrantDawg]

Green Bay: "Here Eagles, get back in the game."
Eagles: "nah, I have a golf game scheduled next week."

[Fonzie]

If the Packers run Kuhn up the gut on 3rd & 1 again this postseason I will kick the nearest puppy. Do you hear me, McCarthy? A PUPPY.

Completely predictable.

[tucker rocky]

Oh so close there on the 2 point try.

[larrymcg421]

I can't believe Reid wasted that timeout. On 3rd down, how do you not already plan what you're gonna do if Vick doesn't make it?

[Crapshoot]

Watching Andy Reid managed a stressful situation is amazing. The man's incompetence is... surreal.

[larrymcg421]

If this ball is within a mile of Desean Jackson, the punter should never be allowed in the NFL again.

[tucker rocky]

Packers punter, Tom Coughlin would like to have a word with you.

[Crapshoot]

How much money would you bet that this punt goes out of bounds?

[kingfc22]

If this ball is within a mile of Desean Jackson, the punter should never be allowed in the NFL again.

+1000

[Crapshoot]

How much money would you bet that this punt goes out of bounds?

APparently not much. :D

[kingfc22]

Let's see if Vick can even move at this point.

[larrymcg421]

Nice block by the ref there.

[kingfc22]

Holy cow he almost broke that one!

Packers need to keep two guys on him.

[MizzouRah]

Nice block by the ref there.

I just said the same thing to my TV.

[Lathum]

Eagles gonna pull this one out.

[kingfc22]

Shut up Philly. That was a clean hit. Shoulder to the stomach.

[tucker rocky]

Nothing wrong with the hit there.

[Crapshoot]

No matter what happens, DeSean Jackson is a heck of a player. I thought he was one missed tackle from taking to the end zone.

[Abe Sargent]

And that's game

[kingfc22]

Ballgame!

[Lathum]

Eagles gonna pull this one out.

And the jinx worked!

[kingfc22]

So much for home field advantage this weekend.

[Mustang]

whew...

[Suburban Rhythm]

So much for home field advantage this weekend.

I meant to predict Seattle as the lone home winner, but figured everyone was already thinking the same.

[Lathum]

I think everyone has overrated Vick this season. He had one amazing game but IMO is basically the same QB he was when he got locked up.

If I am the Eagles I proceed with caution.

[Fonzie]

And finally I can exhale.