Fictional Character Draft Thread

[Alan T]

Halo.


Ahh ok thanks. I had assumed he was the guy from Doom or something else like that.

[wade moore]

6.5 - Odysseus - Hero - Pre-19th Century [Homer]

Odysseus is the first recorded Epic Hero of our time. He set the stage for all of our hero characters to come.

[Lathum]

If someone is an american who lives abroad does that count as non american/ europeon?

[wade moore]

Can someone tell me who this one is? This is the first name I don't recognize. I assume something military related, so probably one of the fighting games from the early 1990s that made that genre popular I assume?
Halo.

[Lathum]

6.6-Hester Prynne- Female- Nathaniel Hawthorn- 19th century

[spleen1015]

If someone is an american who lives abroad does that count as non american/ europeon?

I don't think so.

[Autumn]

This is a lot of fun to watch so far. Some interesting choices.

[Danny]

Sorry guys, didnt get a PM

[Danny]

6.7 Mother Nature, Female, Unknown Creator

[spleen1015]

6.7 Mother Nature, Female, Unknown Creator

I love this pick. Good Job, man.

[DeToxRox]

6.8 Ichabod Crane, Literary Character
Created by Washington Irving, 19th century

[DeToxRox]

7.1 - Dorothy Gale (Wizard of Oz), Female
Created by L. Frank Baum, Pre-World War II

[Barkeep49]

6.7 Mother Nature, Female, Unknown Creator
Great pick and certainly a known character.

[Barkeep49]

If someone is an american who lives abroad does that count as non american/ europeon?
No. The idea is to go outside the "western" cannon there.

[Danny]

7.2 Solid Snake, Video Game Character, Non-European / American Designer (Hideo Kojima)

[Danny]

Thanks guys, I held my breath on the Mother Nature pick for a bit

[Lathum]

7.3- Samus Aran-Video Game-Makoto Kano-Non American

[Danny]

What other category?

[Lathum]

shoot- BK, I got confused with the catergory thing. Can I change my pick?

[wade moore]

For 7.3?

Since no one else has picked, I'd say go ahead. BK is on a road trip, so I don't know when he'll be back.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Harry and the Hendersons?

[wade moore]

Dola: But if you pick my character, you're not allowed anymore ;).

[spleen1015]

Barkeep is around. I think he's been on since he left. I got a PM from him for sure.

[Lathum]

ok, changed it

[wade moore]

7.4 - Peter Pan - Live - Pre-WWII [J.M. Berrie]

One of the things with this draft as I try to pick things that I think others on the board will like. That was a bit tough with the live category. I think Peter Pan is something that even if not now, at one time in our loves a lot of folks on this board have enjoyed.

[spleen1015]

7.5 - Mary Poppins - Literary - Female Creator (P. L. Travers)

I was going to make this pick in the last round, but I had to go with Bugs instead. I'm glad she's still here because this is a tough category.

I like the Peter Pan pick, wade.

[wade moore]

Mary Poppins.. never even crossed my mind!

Thanks - he wasn't on my list, came up with him hunting for Live.

[mckerney]

7.2 Solid Snake, Video Game Character, Non-European / American Designer (Hideo Kojima)

The first strong selection in the video games category and a steal in round 7.

[larrymcg421]

The first strong selection in the video games category and a steal in round 7.

I guess I don't understand the draft at all if Solid Snake is a better pick than Mario or Pac-Man.

[mckerney]

I guess I don't understand the draft at all if Solid Snake is a better pick than Mario or Pac-Man.

Mario and Pac-Man are iconic because they've been in good games, but as characters they're rather flat.

[sabotai]

Mario and Pac-Man are iconic because they've been in good games, but as characters they're rather flat..

[Autumn]

But you can't expect voters to be qualified enough in each category to distinguish the truly best characters, I don't think. One voter may realize Iago is better than Romeo, or Solid Snake better than Mario, but the voters collectively will go with the characters they are familiar with. That's my guess at least.

[Barkeep49]

I am indeed back around though at a hotel with 6 screaming 10/11 yearolds (soon to be 12) so I will be in and out the rest of the day.

[Barkeep49]

But you can't expect voters to be qualified enough in each category to distinguish the truly best characters, I don't think. One voter may realize Iago is better than Romeo, or Solid Snake better than Mario, but the voters collectively will go with the characters they are familiar with. That's my guess at least.
I think this to be true generally, but I think one or two choices aimed a diehard could help separate someone from the pack as well.

[Barkeep49]

Mustang picks

Cinderella, Female Character, Pre-19th Century Creator (Perrault)

[larrymcg421]

7.7 - Pinocchio (Carlo Collodi), Child Character, One Great Work

[Izulde]

Whoa, back to me already? Okay, give me a bit. Wasn't expecting to it to swing back around so fast.

[Izulde]

7.8 - Nora Helmer - Play/Music/Opera - 19th Century (Henrik Ibsen)

Another manipulator and a symbol of female independence in A Doll's House. One of the most iconic characters by the playwright some consider the greatest since Shakespeare.

[Lathum]

I have never heard of any of those people or that play

[Danny]

its ok, me either

[Izulde]

8.1 Sir Gawain - Hero - Anonymous Creator

A mighty warrior and Arthur's nephew, known for his loyalty, piety, and chivalry in Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. He resists temptations and overcomes multiple tests. Gawain also has some other interesting adventures, but this one is both the most famous and the one that best fits the Hero and Anonymous category.

[larrymcg421]

8.2 Arthur "Fonzie" Fonzarelli (Jesse Delamotte) - TV Character - Cold War Creation

[Danny]

Another one I have never heard of.

[larrymcg421]

Another one I have never heard of.

Sir Gawain or Fonzie?

[Danny]

Sir Gawain. I have of course heard of the Fonz

[Danny]

I enjoy having him in the draft for his different perspective, but I haven't heard of half of Izulde's picks. He's much better read than I am though.

[larrymcg421]

I actually have heard of all of Izulde's picks and agree with him on most of them that they are great characters. I just wouldn't pick them for strategic reasons. I'm going more for iconic characters than what I personally think are great characters, but the different strategies are what makes these drafts interesting.

[Danny]

I'm really really hoping someone specific drops to my next pick.

[Danny]

Nevermind, he wouldn't fit properly into the category I thought he would anyway

[spleen1015]

Damn larrymcg with another great pick with Pinocchio.

[Mustang]

Mario and Pac-Man are iconic because they've been in good games, but as characters they're rather flat.

Pac-Man (< Solid Snake

[spleen1015]

Pac-Man (< Solid Snake

:lol:

[Danny]

Pac-Man < Solid Snake

I agree!

[Mustang]

Sailor Moon - Child - Non-Us Creator (Naoko Takeuchi)

[spleen1015]

8.4 - Archie Bunker - Television - Cold War

I was looking at Archie or Fonzie in this spot. The decision was made for me. :D

[wade moore]

8.5 - Jane Eyre - Female Character - Female Creator [Charlotte Bronte]

This one speaks for itself - one of the most important literary characters created by a female author, period.

Edit: Missed the 8.5, so I added it.

[Radii]

I actually have heard of all of Izulde's picks and agree with him on most of them that they are great characters. I just wouldn't pick them for strategic reasons. I'm going more for iconic characters than what I personally think are great characters, but the different strategies are what makes these drafts interesting.

+1, Izulde is always very interesting in these drafts but as far as "winning" the votes he's either not trying and instead is just focused on building a team he loves, or is just not in tune w/ what most people are going to think when they look at these teams due to different background/education/interests or somethign (like mijb in IWS ;) ) Nothing wrong with any of that, mind you, it just seems a vastly different perspective on things.


larrymcg is killing this thing imo. He's knocked every pick out of the park.

[Lathum]

have some really goofy match up here

[Lathum]

8.6- The boogeyman man- unknown creator-villain

[Mustang]

8.6- The boogeyman man- unknown creator-villain

I thought KC and the Sunshine Band created boogeyman. ;)

[Danny]

8.7 Lucy Ricardo, television, one great work.

The show has multiple Key contributors but one original creator and he did little else that was noteworthy

[Danny]

Can someone pm detox for me?

[CrimsonFox]

8.6- The boogeyman man- unknown creator-villain

isn't he the pizza pizza delivery boy from little caesar's that wipes his nose on everything?

[DeToxRox]

my lack of strategy did me in here. I am just phoning in a pick to get rid of this spot I am in. This is probably not even a famous person but I have to get rid of these two spots and they are subjects I know nothing about.

8.8 - Dido, Queen of Carthrage, Play/Musical/Operatic
Created by Christopher Marlowe (Pre-19th century)

Granted Isabella is real but was portray

[DeToxRox]

9.1 - Mary Catherine Gallagher, Female
Created by Molly Shannon, Female Creator

[CrimsonFox]

my lack of strategy did me in here. I am just phoning in a pick to get rid of this spot I am in. This is probably not even a famous person but I have to get rid of these two spots and they are subjects I know nothing about.

8.8 - Dido, Queen of Carthrage, Play/Musical/Operatic
Created by Christopher Marlowe (Pre-19th century)

Granted Isabella is real but was portray

oh yeah she's good. :)

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[DeToxRox]

I knew that was coming.

[CrimsonFox]

At first I was gonna say "Doot doot doo doo doot doo doo doo doot doo doo doo doo dooo doo doo"...
but then I found out that's Suzanne Vega, not Dido.

[Izulde]

Hmm. Dido's actually a historical figure I believe. I don't know how well she stacks up as a fictional character in Marlowe's depiction of her, though.

[Radii]

9.1 - Mary Catherine Gallagher, Female
Created by Molly Shannon, Female Creator

I uh. Huh. Um. Really?

[Izulde]

I uh. Huh. Um. Really?

Even I have absolutely no idea who this is.

[Izulde]

Oh. Saturday Night Live. I only saw a few episodes.

[Radii]

Even I have absolutely no idea who this is.

nono, I know who it is. Maybe I'll rate it lower than others b/c I thought it was one of the least funny recurring bits SNL has ever done...

[CrimsonFox]

I thought KC and the Sunshine Band created boogeyman. ;)


I JUST saw this. :lol::jester:

[Danny]

9.2 Oedipus, Play / Musical / Opera, Pre 19th Century

[CrimsonFox]

That Mother F@#$er!

[Danny]

lol

[Izulde]

That Mother F@#$er!

http://i341.photobucket.com/albums/o395/Izulde08/owl.jpg

[britrock88]

A little love for the Greeks, finally!

[3ric]

8.1 Sir Gawain - Hero - Anonymous Creator

A mighty warrior and Arthur's nephew, known for his loyalty, piety, and chivalry in Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. He resists temptations and overcomes multiple tests. Gawain also has some other interesting adventures, but this one is both the most famous and the one that best fits the Hero and Anonymous category.

Good one.

[Barkeep49]

I believe Lathum is on the board as we continue this morning.

[spleen1015]

At any point, do we decide to skip him to get this things finished?

[Barkeep49]

At any point, do we decide to skip him to get this things finished?
I'm willing to give him a bit of time since we'd agreed to take the weekend off so, in my mind, he really only recent got on the clock and it's only 8 AM where he lives right now so it's still earlier in the morning for him.

[spleen1015]

That's cool with me. I was just wondering. :D

[Barkeep49]

We'll wait until 3 PM Eastern, before allowing wade to continue with his pick.

[wade moore]

9.4 - The Big Bad Wolf - Villain - Unknown Creator

Who's afraid of the Big Bad Wolf?

Recognizable worldwide, especially by scared little children.

Who's afraid of the Big Bad Wolf?

[spleen1015]

I love that pick wade. Good job.

[spleen1015]

9.5 - Danny Zuko - Play/Musical - Multiple Creators (Jim Jacobs & Warren Casey)

1 more to go.

[Mustang]

Sorry.. didn't know it was my turn.

And I'm scratching my head with my 2 last choices...


Lestat de Lioncourt -Movie - Female (Anne Rice)

[CrimsonFox]

List of Characters by Drafter

Note: Will only be updated after the completion of a round

DeToxRox
1.1 George Costanza, TV Character, Modern Day (Larry David)
2.8 Cartman, Child, Multiple Creators (Trey Parker & Matt Stone)
3.1 Mario, Computer/Video Game, Cold War Creation (Shigreu Miyamoto)
4.8 Godzilla, Villain, One Great Work (Tomoyuki Tanaka)
5.1 Santa Claus, Hero, Unknown/Anonymous Creator
6.8 Ichabad Crane, Literary Character, 19th Century (Washington Irvine)
7.1 Dorthy Gale, Female, Pre-WWII (Frank Oz)
8.8 Dido Queen of Carthrage, Live Performance, Pre-19th Century (Christopher Marlowe)




LOL I think Barkeep has muppets on his mind.

[wade moore]

Has larry been pm'd?

[larrymcg421]

I'm here and getting ready to draft. I sent Barkeep a pm to ask if a pick would be allowed for a certain category.

[Mustang]

Bah.. man, I'm off today. Forgot to PM Larry

[larrymcg421]

9.7 Tommy "Pinball Wizard" Walker (Pete Townshend, Des McAnuff), Multiple Person Creator, Live Performance Character

[Izulde]

9.8 Chi - Comic/Animated Character - Female Creator (CLAMP)

Yeah. This is me going with a manga pick with the mysterious past female persocom from the series Chobits. It fits the category and she provides a hook for the narrative I'm creating out of my team.

[Izulde]

10.1 - The Nameless One - Computer/Video Game Character - One Great Work (Chris Avellone)

This may be a stretch for one great work, as Avellone worked on other games as well, but Wikipedia gives Avellone the credit for TNO, who many consider the greatest computer RPG character ever made. Able to be played in a variety of different ways, his versatility will be key to our story.

[CrimsonFox]

I think I would say Tommy is more Pete Townsend/Roger Daltrey than Townsend/Macanuff....but that's still mPC

[larrymcg421]

Will pick if BK doesn't reply to my PM soon.

[larrymcg421]

10.2 - Keyser Soze, Created by Christopher McQuarrie, Movie Character, Modern Day Creation

[larrymcg421]

I think I would say Tommy is more Pete Townsend/Roger Daltrey than Townsend/Macanuff....but that's still mPC

McAnuff gets credit because he directed the musical and was nominated for a Tony with Townsend for Best Book.

I'm fine with Daltrey being added. You could also add John Entwistle and Sonny Boy Williamson.

[CrimsonFox]

Yup. :) I say this mostly because I'm a classic rock geek. I have this great video of the hourney of Tommy as an album, then film, then musical. The live album was very much a live piece which Townsend does say that There is a Tommy that is both parts of himself and the who AND parts of Roger and the Who. The video is called The Amazing Journey. You should check it out.

[Mustang]

Hawkeye Pierce / TV / Multiple (Gelbart/Reynolds)

[Barkeep49]

Apologies to larry for my semi-delayed response. I have responded to the question and if he wished to change his pick at this time I would allow it.

[larrymcg421]

It's no problem. I think I like what I have better anyways.

[Buccaneer]

What's an FOFC Draft without Izulde and his asinine picks? :lol:

[spleen1015]

10.4 Gordan Freeman - Computer/Video Games - Modern Day

Everyone has played Halflife!!!

[Danny]

So we have Wade, Lathum x2, Me and Detox to finish this things off.

[Coffee Warlord]

After a quick look through of picks, I gotta say...in my personal opinion, Danny owns this hands down.

[Autumn]

Danny's looking good, but I think it's going to be hard to beat larrymcg

[Buccaneer]

I agree that it's going to be a toss-up between Danny and larrymcg.

Too bad I was gone while the draft was going on, it's always fun to pick on Izulde's cluelessness in these things and he's a good sport about it (even though after of all of these years, he still hasn't learned how to play these games). :)

[CrimsonFox]

Hawkeye Pierce / TV / Multiple (Gelbart/Reynolds)

nice pic :) more pickiness I would call tv hawkeye a Gelbart (Writer/Delevoper)/Alda (actor) /Hooker (original character) creation :> You could throw Reynolds on as Producer/director for those early seasons sure I guess. but that's me, mr. picky. :>

[Danny]

Dang, I want to make my last pick already!

[CrimsonFox]

Do these things usually have just 8 people and if so why? DO you find yourselves running out of good selections if more?

[Lathum]

Hey guys, I'll make my pick in the morning. Had a crazy day, went to a wedding last night in New Jersey and left our son with the in laws over night for the first time so we took advantage and slept in. By the time we ate, got our son and got me off to the airport I hadn't even thought about this. Just got home a short while ago and am way to tired to even think.

Sorry for being AWOL

[larrymcg421]

Do these things usually have just 8 people and if so why? DO you find yourselves running out of good selections if more?

8 is smaller than usual. I think we usually have 10 or 12. As for running out of picks, that depends on the categories and limitations.

[wade moore]

10.5 - The Hunchback of Notre Dame - Literary - 19th Century [Victor Hugo]

The Hunchback is a compelling character that has been used in multiple forms since his initial creation.

[wade moore]

Apparently I'm like Izulde at times.

For instance, I don't understand how Danny's list gets tons of love and mine doesn't.

wade moore
1.4 Superman, Comic/Animated Character, Multiple Creators (Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster)
2.5 Holden Caulfield, Child Character, One Great Work (JD Salinger)
3.4 PacMan, Computer/Video Game Character, Non-European/American Creator (Tōru Iwatani)
4.5 James Bond, Movie Character, Cold War Era (Ian Fleming)
5.4 Tony Soprano, Television, Modern Day (David Chase)
6.5 Odysseus, Hero, Pre-19th Century (Homer)
7.4 Peter Pan, Live Performance, Pre-WWII (JM Barrie)
8.5 Jane Eyre, Female Character, Female Creator (Charlotte Bronte)

Danny
1.2 Darth Vader, Villain, Cold War Creation (George Lucas)
2.7 Frankenstein's Monster, Literary, Female (Mary Shelley)
3.2 Homer Simpson, Comic/Animated Character, Modern Day (Matt Groenig)
4.7 Optimus Prime, Hero, Multiple Creators
5.2 Alice, Child, 19th Century (Lewis Carrol)
6.7 Mother Nature, Female, Unknown/Anonymous Creator
7.2 Solid Snake, Computer/Video Game, Non-European/American (Hideo Kojima)
8.7 Lucy Ricardo, TV, One Great Work


To me, I'm as good or better than him in every category except maybe one.

Not saying Danny has a bad list or that I have some super-duper list, just trying to demonstrate how I apparently am not great at these games. Almost every time I think I have a great list, but generally get very little love.

I used to think it was because I tended to speak my opinion during the drafts and that turned people off, but I've not done that in this one on purpose - and still no love.

[Logan]

Wade, I've had you and larry in the top 2 (in some order) for awhile.

[Coffee Warlord]

Wade, I acutally did like most of your picks, but you lost me with Holden Caufield in the 2nd round.

[wade moore]

Wade, I acutally did like most of your picks, but you lost me with Holden Caufield in the 2nd round.

Seriously? Of all of the picks in the first 2 rounds, Caulfield is the one you didn't like? See - that baffles me. To me he's one of the best and most iconic child characters in literature - if not the best in literature.

[Barkeep49]

I agree with wade about Holden Caufield. I wasn't joking when I said I knew multiple kids named after him.

[Lathum]

BK, do you have some master template you can easily access to tell me what character/ category combo I have left?

[Barkeep49]

Lathum, you have the following left:

Character Types:
Movie Character
Television Character

Creator Types:
Pre-19th Century Creation
One Great Work Creator (Creator associated with only one work)

[Barkeep49]

As a DOLA, I will point out that you can do a character who is iconic in a medium even if they were created Pre-19th Century (as was done with Medusa and Movies) so you're not out of luck.

[wade moore]

I just looked at the master list on page 1 and figured it out for you Lathum:

Character Type:

Movie Character
Television Character

Creator Type:
Pre-19th Century Creation
One Great Work Creator (Creator associated with only one work)

[lordscarlet]

For reference, the second and third posts in the thread have everyone's picks. The first has the list of categories/creators.

[Lathum]

For reference, the second and third posts in the thread have everyone's picks. The first has the list of categories/creators.

I'm aware of that, I just really don't have the time to match it all up right now, had a super busy travel weekend and now have to get to work. Thaks Wade and BK. I'll pick in a little while

[CrimsonFox]

wade, I do like a lot of yours but Cauffield I have no idea who is...
Danny's I like but actually similar. A couple I don't really like. I think everyone's list is like that for me. No perfects.

[wade moore]

wade, I do like a lot of yours but Cauffield I have no idea who is...


Caulfield is the lead character in the Catcher in the Rye.

Surprised to see someone not know who he is to be honest.

[Autumn]

I think your list is great, Wade, you're definitely in the running.

Holden is a great pick for someone who's read the book, but it's certainly not a character as widely known as many others. It's like Iago, to me. A great pick, a great character, but not a character that has penetrated the mainstream. The only people who know Holden are people who have read the book (and that's probably less and less each year). Whereas a character like Superman people know regardless of if they've ever picked a comic.

Still a really strong list, it's going to be fun choosing between them.

[wade moore]

I think your list is great, Wade, you're definitely in the running.

Holden is a great pick for someone who's read the book, but it's certainly not a character as widely known as many others. It's like Iago, to me. A great pick, a great character, but not a character that has penetrated the mainstream. The only people who know Holden are people who have read the book (and that's probably less and less each year). Whereas a character like Superman people know regardless of if they've ever picked a comic.

Still a really strong list, it's going to be fun choosing between them.

Yeah.. I guess I just thought he was pretty heavy in the mainstream. I'm not sure I know a single person that wouldn't know who he was if I said his name.

Not meant as an insult to Crimson, just commenting on why I used him so high.

[CrimsonFox]

Yeah.. I guess I just thought he was pretty heavy in the mainstream. I'm not sure I know a single person that wouldn't know who he was if I said his name.

Not meant as an insult to Crimson, just commenting on why I used him so high.


oh yeah that's right. Read it in high school. Catcher in the Rye I know. That character's name just didn't stick with me.

eh...That book is "okay" but it's not one of my favorites. Although most high school books are like that for me. It's kinda more hyped cause of the language than its worth. Not criticizing the pick mind you except for its vagueness.

[Logan]

Catcher in the Rye was the first "real book" (I guess I would define it as true literature) that I couldn't put down. I've been lost on many of these picks but that was a slam dunk for me.

[Autumn]

Catcher in the Rye was the first "real book" (I guess I would define it as true literature) that I couldn't put down. I've been lost on many of these picks but that was a slam dunk for me.

I think this will be the key with voters - some characters will be slam dunks for everyone. But no one's going to have a list entirely of those. The rest of the characters, hopefully they will really resonate with some one in the crowd. There are characters up there I've never heard of but someone will probably consider a slam dunk.

[Autumn]

Yeah.. I guess I just thought he was pretty heavy in the mainstream. I'm not sure I know a single person that wouldn't know who he was if I said his name.

Not meant as an insult to Crimson, just commenting on why I used him so high.

I'd be interested to see a poll on that. I run in fairly well read circles, but still am sure that a significant percentage of the people I know wouldn't recognize Holden. And people who read a lot aren't even the majority, so I'd be surprised if his name recognition was that high overall.

[wade moore]

I'd be interested to see a poll on that. I run in fairly well read circles, but still am sure that a significant percentage of the people I know wouldn't recognize Holden. And people who read a lot aren't even the majority, so I'd be surprised if his name recognition was that high overall.

Yeah... clearly I misjudged his name recognition. Always interesting to hear others views in these drafts.

[Alan T]

Yeah... clearly I misjudged his name recognition. Always interesting to hear others views in these drafts.


It has been over 20 years since I read that book, so the name didn't jump out at me right away. When I realized what story it was from, i remember the character.

I would like to assume that I am not in a minority on that, so would guess others are in the same boat.

[Lathum]

Peter Griffen- TV- Seth MacFarlane-One Great Work ( american dad sucks)

[Lathum]

Zeus- Unknown- Movie- Pre 19th Century

[eiskrap]

Yeah... clearly I misjudged his name recognition. Always interesting to hear others views in these drafts.

Not read the book, so I have no clue.

I also can't get my head around Pac-man as a character... But the rest of your list is solid, James Bond in the 4th round is amazing value.

Haven't looked at the any other consolidated lists, but I don't think there are any without one or two picks (and some a few more ;) ) I have problems with...

[Danny]

10.7 Charles Foster Kane, Movie Character, Pre wwII

[Danny]

Apparently I'm like Izulde at times.

For instance, I don't understand how Danny's list gets tons of love and mine doesn't.

wade moore
1.4 Superman, Comic/Animated Character, Multiple Creators (Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster)
2.5 Holden Caulfield, Child Character, One Great Work (JD Salinger)
3.4 PacMan, Computer/Video Game Character, Non-European/American Creator (Tōru Iwatani)
4.5 James Bond, Movie Character, Cold War Era (Ian Fleming)
5.4 Tony Soprano, Television, Modern Day (David Chase)
6.5 Odysseus, Hero, Pre-19th Century (Homer)
7.4 Peter Pan, Live Performance, Pre-WWII (JM Barrie)
8.5 Jane Eyre, Female Character, Female Creator (Charlotte Bronte)

Danny
1.2 Darth Vader, Villain, Cold War Creation (George Lucas)
2.7 Frankenstein's Monster, Literary, Female (Mary Shelley)
3.2 Homer Simpson, Comic/Animated Character, Modern Day (Matt Groenig)
4.7 Optimus Prime, Hero, Multiple Creators
5.2 Alice, Child, 19th Century (Lewis Carrol)
6.7 Mother Nature, Female, Unknown/Anonymous Creator
7.2 Solid Snake, Computer/Video Game, Non-European/American (Hideo Kojima)
8.7 Lucy Ricardo, TV, One Great Work


To me, I'm as good or better than him in every category except maybe one.

Not saying Danny has a bad list or that I have some super-duper list, just trying to demonstrate how I apparently am not great at these games. Almost every time I think I have a great list, but generally get very little love.

I used to think it was because I tended to speak my opinion during the drafts and that turned people off, but I've not done that in this one on purpose - and still no love.

Who would have guessed people would like their own team lol

[wade moore]

Who would have guessed people would like their own team lol

eh, I've done drafts where I didn't like my team just because I got beat out for people, had a strategy that backfired, etc.

[DeToxRox]

10.8 - Ichi the Killer (Movie Character)
Created by Hideo Yamamoto (Non American/European)

[Barkeep49]

Alright so we're done. I will update the first two posts soonish and then create a voting thread. I think there were some really great picks here and I'm going to have to think carefully about my favorite teams.

[spleen1015]

There were a lot of good picks later in this draft that I didn't even consider. If I had, I think some of my picks would have been different.

My strategy was to get picks early for the categories that I thought would be tough later on. The Non-European/American category was one that had me in a panic when I didn't get Mario and I think the shows with my pick of Hello Kitty.

There were a few picks where I was like "Who the f*ck is that?"

I don't think I have the worst list and I don't think I have the best.

[Izulde]

I know shit about Hello Kitty as a character, but it's actually a very popular and iconic one in some circles. There's actually even stores that are nothing but Hello Kitty and San Rio stuff.

[CrimsonFox]

Indeed this is a fantastic draft and was neat seeing where people went with it. Great picks. I do really like that people went with some favorites even tho they may not be as recognizable names. Might like that more than characters I know but don't like. Now comes the hard part, deciding among most popular, most iconic, personal favorite, and things I know. It will probably come down to a little of each. Although I may have to scratch my head on some that were chosen for a category when they weren't created in that category. (later adaptions, tv, movies, plays etc) Although many in that case really developed characters of their own, still makes me think.

[3ric]

Danny's looking good, but I think it's going to be hard to beat larrymcg

Larrymcg has this wrapped up, hands down

[Barkeep49]

For the record the two things I'm surprised about:

1. No Kermit the Frog. I think he fell victim to the fact that he doesn't really fit in any category, but I certainly think he's a bigger character than many that were picked.

2. No Jane Austin Characters. I think while Jane Austin is a great pick for Female Creator, her characters aren't quite as iconic, as especially among our demographic.

[Alan T]

For the record the two things I'm surprised about:

1. No Kermit the Frog. I think he fell victim to the fact that he doesn't really fit in any category, but I certainly think he's a bigger character than many that were picked.

2. No Jane Austin Characters. I think while Jane Austin is a great pick for Female Creator, her characters aren't quite as iconic, as especially among our demographic.


I was thinking we would see Emma show up as a strong choice and was surprised she never made it.

A few others I thought that might show up were:

Moby Dick
Don Quixote

[Alan T]

Dola,

I also felt almost completely lost by at least half of the computer game picks.

[spleen1015]

I was thinking we would see Emma show up as a strong choice and was surprised she never made it.

A few others I thought that might show up were:

Moby Dick
Don Quixote

I picked Moby Dick and I think someone else got Don Quixote.

I had Kermit on my list, but didn't pick him, obviously.

[Alan T]

I was thinking we would see Emma show up as a strong choice and was surprised she never made it.

A few others I thought that might show up were:

Moby Dick
Don Quixote


Oh never mind, I completely missed Spleen picked Moby Dick :)

[Barkeep49]

Don Quixote is a very strong character who wasn't picked. I really wish we'd found 10 people since I think 8 people in some ways made it too easy, which is not to disparage the fine drafting job a lot of people did, just that I don't know that they had to reach quite as hard as they would have if we'd had more drafters.

[lordscarlet]

I thought for sure Elizabeth Bennett would go as a female/female pick.

[Barkeep49]

I thought Jane Eyre was picked.
She's created by a Bronte, not Austin. I personally could never get into any of the Brontes novels where as I really enjoy Austin.

[CrimsonFox]

She's created by a Bronte, not Austin. I personally could never get into any of the Brontes novels where as I really enjoy Austin.


which is why I deleted my stupid post. :D
JUst got uyp and not too together yet. I SWEAR his post was talking about the Brontes, instead of Austin but I so misread it.

[Izulde]

I despise Jane Austen.

Jane Eyre, on the other hand, is one of my favorite novels.