Official College Football Thread - Week 12

[Logan]

Starting it off with a bang!

Gary Pinkel of Missouri Tigers arrested on suspicion of drunken driving - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7245998/gary-pinkel-missouri-tigers-arrested-suspicion-drunken-driving)

[Easy Mac]

Wouldn't happen if they were in the SEC

[Easy Mac]

Also,

Georgia Southern is playing Alabama this weekend.

Georgia Southern is #2 in the FCS, Alabama is #3 in the FBS.

I can't remember a matchup like this, especially this late in the season, between top 5 teams in their respective divisions. I'm sure it's happened, but I wouldn't be shocked if Georgia Southern kept it within two scores.

[Logan]

Tonight we get UNC vs #8 VT on ESPN, along with #20 Southern Miss taking on UAB. Tomorrow ESPN has #2 Ok State traveling to Iowa State.

Ranked matchups are slim:

#5 Oklahoma @ #22 Baylor
#13 Kansas State @ #23 Texas
#16 Nebraska @ #18 Michigan

For those who care, Big East title implications in place with Cincy @ Rutgers. A Cincy win puts them well into the driver's seat, and a Rutgers win could lead to a three way tie if things break right.

[MJ4H]

Rumors blew up this week that Knile Davis was returning to the field for this Saturday's game against Mississippi State (for Arkansas, obv). Coach Petrino shot the rumor down, but the fact that he is practicing and has been for a couple of weeks is extremely good news.

[digamma]

The Game.

[dawgfan]

Before I was ever exposed to the wonder that is MBBF, I was actually a fan of Mizzou football because of Gary Pinkel. He was a long-time assistant at the UW under Don James and was the popular choice among the fanbase to take over when Jim Lambright was fired in '98 (instead we got the surprise hiring of Neuheisel). The part of me that doesn't hate Mizzou football because of MBBF is sad to hear about Pinkel screwing up like this. I have to think Don James is particularly upset by this news - not only was Pinkel a long-time assistant, DJ coached him as a player at Kent State.

[dawgfan]

Washington attempts to get back off the mat this week and take down Oregon State on the road. Huskies still in position to close the season strong and finish at 8-4 heading into the bowls, something that most Husky fans would have figured highly optimistic heading into the season, what with having to replace their best offensive player (Jake Locker) and defensive player (Mason Foster).

[Matthean]

Also,

Georgia Southern is playing Alabama this weekend.

Georgia Southern is #2 in the FCS, Alabama is #3 in the FBS.

I can't remember a matchup like this, especially this late in the season, between top 5 teams in their respective divisions. I'm sure it's happened, but I wouldn't be shocked if Georgia Southern kept it within two scores.

Depends on how much 'Bama cares offensively.


#16 Nebraska @ #18 Michigan

I think Nebraska wins this because they are the more physical team.

PSU @ OSU. Maybe one of the ugliest offensive games of the year, but PSU finally goes on the road post scandal, and they absolutely need this for the Leaders division title.

[I. J. Reilly]

Washington attempts to get back off the mat this week and take down Oregon State on the road. Huskies still in position to close the season strong and finish at 8-4 heading into the bowls, something that most Husky fans would have figured highly optimistic heading into the season, what with having to replace their best offensive player (Jake Locker) and defensive player (Mason Foster).

Is Montana starting? Not that it matters, Polk will rush for 800 yds against our D. God, this season can't end fast enough.

[cartman]

If neither Bergeron nor Brown is available for the Horns, with Fozzy Whittaker done for the season after the knee injury at Mizzou, K-State should win easily. The defense will keep them in the game, but unless they can score, it won't matter.

[jbergey22]

Also,

Georgia Southern is playing Alabama this weekend.

Georgia Southern is #2 in the FCS, Alabama is #3 in the FBS.

I can't remember a matchup like this, especially this late in the season, between top 5 teams in their respective divisions. I'm sure it's happened, but I wouldn't be shocked if Georgia Southern kept it within two scores.

Yeah this is a very interesting time of year for this game. Alabama will likely not be in it as much as they might need to be against Southern. A 24-7 type game.

[miked]

RU vs. Cin, if CIN wins, I think the BCS bowl is theirs. If RU wins, we need to win one more and hope for WVU to lose.

[dawgfan]

Is Montana starting? Not that it matters, Polk will rush for 800 yds against our D. God, this season can't end fast enough.
Yep, sounds like Sark confirmed it this afternoon.

I'm sure hoping we can get a big game out of Polk. Sark has gotten away from the run a bit lately (certainly due in large part to the quality of defenses faced).

I know you're pessimistic, but these days I don't take any road game for granted. Games in Corvallis haven't been a cakewalk for the UW in a long time...

[panerd]

Wouldn't happen if they were in the SEC

I realize that was probably tongue in cheek but I would agree that Saban and Miles probably aren't getting booked by the local police department.

[General Mike]

For those who care, Big East title implications in place with Cincy @ Rutgers. A Cincy win puts them well into the driver's seat, and a Rutgers win could lead to a five way tie if things break right.

Fixed that for ya. :popcorn:

[Eaglesfan27]

Putting it in here for ease: Dillon Baxter has been granted his release from USC. He is expected to transfer to either SDSU or Florida. His attitude was a MAJOR issue on campus. I hope he gets his head on straight as he still has a lot of potential.

[Butter]

PSU @ OSU. Maybe one of the ugliest offensive games of the year, but PSU finally goes on the road post scandal, and they absolutely need this for the Leaders division title.

Not really, even if PSU has 2 conf. losses, as long as UW wins this week, PSU v. Wisconsin will be for the Leaders title, thanks to OSU's loss at Purdue last week.

[MizzouRah]

Good game - Iowa St. vs Ok St.

ISU down 17-24 in the 4th quarter

[TroyF]

Good game - Iowa St. vs Ok St.

ISU down 17-24 in the 4th quarter

Very good game. . . but I don't think OSU was in any condition to play tonight. Taking nothing away from Iowa St, OSU just is not there mentally.

[MizzouRah]

Oh boy.. 24-24!

[MizzouRah]

Very good game. . . but I don't think OSU was in any condition to play tonight. Taking nothing away from Iowa St, OSU just is not there mentally.

Agreed, definitely not there mentally tonight.

That being said, ISU is playing out of their butts. ;)

[TroyF]

Not taking anything away from ISU, nothing at all. They are playing hard, their QB looks exceptional and the crowd has been huge. But again, they aren't there. I'll be stunned if they win this game. Defense is exhausted at this point. Offense isn't clicking at all. If they do win, it's one of their better wins of the season, and I don't care that it's Iowa State.

Huge, huge play by OSU there. A really poor pass by that QB I just talked up.

[Easy Mac]

He's a man, of course he's kicking the 40 yard field goal.

[Easy Mac]

Wide!

[TroyF]

I'm kind of a mad hatter (I have no problem with what Smith did in Atlanta last week), but I'd go for this. Over a minute left and an exhausted defense and Iowa State with three time outs. I'd have went for it. That FG looked good by the way.

[kingfc22]

That was close.

[MizzouRah]

Very close.. can ISU pull it out? If it goes OT, I don't see them winning.

[Easy Mac]

Isu needs to take this into ot.

[TroyF]

That was close.

That was good.

[TroyF]

OT here we go. I think Iowa St. is insane here. OSU's D is exhausted. 1st and 20, plenty of timeouts, I don't get it. You are at this point because of your aggressiveness and now you decide to become a sissy?

[MizzouRah]

OT here we go. I think Iowa St. is insane here. OSU's D is exhausted. 1st and 20, plenty of timeouts, I don't get it. You are at this point because of your aggressiveness and now you decide to become a sissy?

Agreed.. go for the throat.. what do you have to lose?

I don't think they win in OT, period.

[kingfc22]

And just like that...

[MizzouRah]

Ok then.. 1 play, TD ISU

[Easy Mac]

We learn why FOFC commenters aren't college coaches.

[TroyF]

These announcers are insane. On one hand they talk about OSU playing with heavy hearts and their minds elsewhere. On there other, they talk about how OSU should be motivated because of the BCS.

Look, jack asses, it's the first one. I'm just a freakin grad who never met the people who died today and it's been on my mind all day. The ISU play just shows how OSU isn't there mentally at all. They haven't done one "little" thing right all night long.

It isn't going to start now. The only reason they are in the game is the supreme talent advantage. Without that, Iowa State would have won this game by fifty.

[TroyF]

wide right. lol

[MizzouRah]

2nd OT here we come

[jbergey22]

Pretty ball Weeden throws.

[MizzouRah]

UH OH

[Easy Mac]

Oops

[Easy Mac]

Pretty ball Weeden throws.

Jinx

[kingfc22]

And another one bites the dust.

[jbergey22]

Jinx

Yup. The throw was picked off right as I pressed submit.

[Easy Mac]

Alabama -LSU 2 here we come.

[bronconick]

Well, shit.

[MizzouRah]

What a great prediction I made :crazy:

[TroyF]

One of the saddest days in the universities history will come to an end.

[Lathum]

Feel really bad for those OSU kids and coaches. Obvious they weren't all there tonight.

That being said things are going to be very interesting.

[jbergey22]

That wasnt the same Oklahoma State team from the rest of the year. Randles fumbles finally did them in.

[MizzouRah]

Feel really bad for those OSU kids and coaches. Obvious they weren't all there tonight.

That being said things are going to be very interesting.

Me too.

Hats off to ISU though, they played about the best they could.

[TroyF]

I'm happy for Iowa State, but really? You run out on the field after the events that happened today? Seriously?

[BillJasper]

It was a great game. Though for a few weeks now I thought Weeden had been pretty unremarkable in his ball placement, being bailed out by throwing a lot of screen passes and some pretty good receivers.

[Easy Mac]

I dont want to say I told you so, but I asked in one of the weekly NCAA threads what would happen if everyone lost, who would LSU play? I was told not to worry.

Well, I just wanted to say I told you so.

[jbergey22]

It was a great game. Though for a few weeks now I thought Weeden had been pretty unremarkable in his ball placement, being bailed out by throwing a lot of screen passes and some pretty good receivers.

Yeah, the ball that was picked in OT is the ball he isnt always real accurate on. He throws a much better ball to the outside.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Now here is where things get interesting for the national title game.

Let's say, just on a one in a million chance, that Georgia beats LSU in the SEC championship game? Then what?

Alabama as the 1 and LSU as the 2, with UGA as the 3rd SEC team in? That seems like a strong possibility since
No more than two teams from a conference may be selected, regardless of whether they are automatic qualifiers or at-large selections, unless two non-champions from the same conference are ranked No. 1 and No. 2 in the final BCS Standings.

[jbergey22]

Im not real excited about the strong possibility of seeing a matchup we see every year in the Nat'l championship game.

If LSU and Bama win out. They will play again correct?

Can Oregon or Oklahoma pass bama?

[TroyF]

I dont want to say I told you so, but I asked in one of the weekly NCAA threads what would happen if everyone lost, who would LSU play? I was told not to worry.

Well, I just wanted to say I told you so.

I know I'm biased. I know anything can happen, no matter what. But I firmly believe OSU would have ran the table ad the events of this morning not taken place. This team wasn't there and still almost beat an Iowa State team that played near perfect football. With OU beaten up and OSU at home, I really thought they would run the table.

But after my shock this morning, I told my wife that tonight they would be lucky to win the game. Stillwater is a small college town and I know how much the first plane crash impacted the community. This one hit all of us at OSU harder not only because of the loss, but because we still haven't completely came to grips with the last one.

I guess what I'm saying is congrats on your prediction, but I don't think it would have been accurate had OSU not suffered the loss this morning. Maybe I shouldn't have even been on the message board during the game.

If the national title game is Alabama vs. LSU, I will never watch another second of college football again.

[EagleFan]

Playoffs anyone?

[jbergey22]

Im stunned about that. 28 point favs.

The offense that looked unstoppable all year just crapped the bed in the 4th quarter and beyond. Would have never guessed Okie St losing even playing a subpar game.

FK

[BillJasper]

I was already thinking that Oklahoma State was going to lose next week to Oklahoma. As prolific as the offense is, the defense is pretty bad.

[jbergey22]

I was already thinking that Oklahoma State was going to lose next week to Oklahoma. As prolific as the offense is, the defense is pretty bad.

Thats for sure. I have no idea how they managed to shutout Texas Tech last week.

EDIT
Well 6 points they gave up I guess. I didnt remember Tech scoring must have came late in the game.

[DeToxRox]

I know people don't want to see a rematch of LSU/Alabama, but at this point if both win out can someone really make an argument Alabama isn't the most deserving team to play for the NC? Oregon is going to wind up the only other team with a case at this point.

[jbergey22]

I know people don't want to see a rematch of LSU/Alabama, but at this point if both win out can someone really make an argument Alabama isn't the most deserving team to play for the NC? Oregon is going to wind up the only other team with a case at this point.

I think Bama is a bit better than LSU despite the score result of the first game. I thought Bama sort of blew it while LSU made the most of their few chances.

I think Bama is the most deserving to be in the game now but it still doesnt make it exciting to see a rematch. They play once a year the way it is. I guess I sort of look at it as seeing the Ravens/Steelers in the Super Bowl.

[DeToxRox]

I think Bama is a bit better than LSU despite the score result of the first game. I thought Bama sort of blew it while LSU made the most of their few chances.

I think Bama is the most deserving to be in the game now but it still doesnt make it exciting to see a rematch. They play once a year the way it is. I guess I sort of look at it as seeing the Ravens/Steelers in the Super Bowl.

I understand that point, but I'd as of now we're likely going to get a rematch in LSU - Oregon and LSU - Alabama and I'd much rather see LSU/Bama of the two.

[Big Fo]

I understand that point, but I'd as of now we're likely going to get a rematch in LSU - Oregon and LSU - Alabama and I'd much rather see LSU/Bama of the two.

Yeah, at least the latter was a close game.

Maybe Oregon and Alabama will lose down stretch and someone like Oklahoma or the VT/Clemson winner could become the best one loss team?

To me, Alabama beating LSU to win the title would just be kind of annoying since each would have one loss with LSU having won in Alabama while Alabama would have won on a neutral field. But them's the breaks I guess.

[jbergey22]

I understand that point, but I'd as of now we're likely going to get a rematch in LSU - Oregon and LSU - Alabama and I'd much rather see LSU/Bama of the two.

Yeah, if people really want to see the two best teams play in the Nat'l championship game these are probably the two best so from that side of things I guess it works.

I can certainly understand Oregon having a case though.

That +1 would work perfect this year.

Youd have OKl/OKl St eliminate themselves next week. The winner plays Oregon. Bama and LSU play in the other game. You then get a Ore/OKl/Okl St vs Bama/LSU championship. I think most would be ok with that.

LSU gets screwed with that scenario:) But atleast 4 teams with a loss already can claim they had a fair shake;)

[Matthean]

That wasnt the same Oklahoma State team from the rest of the year. Randles fumbles finally did them in.

Same could be said for the OU/TT game. I'm fully aware OSU had a way better excuse to mail in a game.

I had figured OU would beat OSU like Oregon was going to beat Stanford. As much as it pains me to say it, the title game is a rematch. I'm not sure USC alone can vault Oregon past 'Bama. Between 'Bama and OU, 'Bama's loss is far more forgivable.

Just a stunning loss though.

[k0ruptr]

I def think if it plays out that way that it should be a LSU-Bama rematch, But I honestly would much rather see The Oregon-LSU Rematch. The Bama game would have been a lot more recent and I feel it would end pretty similar. I think with the Ducks there is a little bit more unknown and I think I'd just be more interested in that 1st game of the year and last game of the year scenario.

[JPhillips]

I can see a scenario where Bama plays Oregon for the championship. If all three win out, but LSU losses the SEC championship it could happen.

[Matthean]

These announcers are insane. On one hand they talk about OSU playing with heavy hearts and their minds elsewhere. On there other, they talk about how OSU should be motivated because of the BCS.

Look, jack asses, it's the first one. I'm just a freakin grad who never met the people who died today and it's been on my mind all day. The ISU play just shows how OSU isn't there mentally at all. They haven't done one "little" thing right all night long.

It isn't going to start now. The only reason they are in the game is the supreme talent advantage. Without that, Iowa State would have won this game by fifty.

Very good game. . . but I don't think OSU was in any condition to play tonight. Taking nothing away from Iowa St, OSU just is not there mentally.

I know I'm biased. I know anything can happen, no matter what. But I firmly believe OSU would have ran the table ad the events of this morning not taken place. This team wasn't there and still almost beat an Iowa State team that played near perfect football. With OU beaten up and OSU at home, I really thought they would run the table.

But after my shock this morning, I told my wife that tonight they would be lucky to win the game. Stillwater is a small college town and I know how much the first plane crash impacted the community. This one hit all of us at OSU harder not only because of the loss, but because we still haven't completely came to grips with the last one.

I guess what I'm saying is congrats on your prediction, but I don't think it would have been accurate had OSU not suffered the loss this morning. Maybe I shouldn't have even been on the message board during the game.


You do realize OSU was up 24-7 in the third right? I get their heads and hearts were elsewhere, but for most of the game they were doing well enough. OSU crapped the bed in the second half and ISU took advantage of it. If the game was close or ISU was leading throughout, I could see your point, but to be up 24-7 in the third and then blame the tragedy for what follows seems to be rather naive.

[BillJasper]

You do realize OSU was up 24-7 in the third right? I get their heads and hearts were elsewhere, but for most of the game they were doing well enough. OSU crapped the bed in the second half and ISU took advantage of it. If the game was close or ISU was leading throughout, I could see your point, but to be up 24-7 in the third and then blame the tragedy for what follows seems to be rather naive.

This pretty much sums up my feelings.

[BillJasper]

This team wasn't there and still almost beat an Iowa State team that played near perfect football.



Define near perfect football? Iowa State's QB threw 2 INT's (one for a pick six), fumbled away the ball inside the red zone, their receivers dropped eight passes by midway through the third quarter and they had a missed field goal.

I don't think the tragedy had anything to do with this loss. This was a classic "thinking about next week's opponent" loss. They had just whipped Texas Tech 66-6 and had the biggest game in the programs history next week vs. Oklahoma. They were told they would beat Iowa State by four touchdowns, problem was that Iowa State came to play.

[Ben E Lou]

I can see a scenario where Bama plays Oregon for the championship. If all three win out, but LSU losses the SEC championship it could happen.:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
























:(

[jbergey22]

Yeah the Oklahoma State offense seemed out of it or surprised by Iowa States speed on defense. Its kind of hard to figure out since Im sure they had seen faster defenses on the year.

[BillJasper]

Yeah the Oklahoma State offense seemed out of it or surprised by Iowa States speed on defense. Its kind of hard to figure out since Im sure they had seen faster defenses on the year.

I think part of the problem is Brandon Weeden is one of the most unimpressive Heisman Trophy candidates that I've seen in a long time. There was a stat early in the third quarter that showed, for the game, that something like 55% of his passes were at or behind the line of scrimmage. Couple that with the fact that he simply looked lost out there and was throwing a ton of balls into double and triple coverage. I think Iowa State threw some wrinkles into their defense that he simply had never had to deal with before. Making him hang onto the ball longer and forcing him into poor decisions or making throws a beat late.

[jbergey22]

I think Iowa State threw some wrinkles into their defense that he simply had never had to deal with before. Making him hang onto the ball longer and forcing him into poor decisions or making throws a beat late.

Solid point. This is how it looked to me as well.

Weeden couldnt adjust to his WRs not being 5 yards wide open on every play.

[Matthean]

I think part of the problem is Brandon Weeden is one of the most unimpressive Heisman Trophy candidates that I've seen in a long time. There was a stat early in the third quarter that showed, for the game, that something like 55% of his passes were at or behind the line of scrimmage. Couple that with the fact that he simply looked lost out there and was throwing a ton of balls into double and triple coverage. I think Iowa State threw some wrinkles into their defense that he simply had never had to deal with before. Making him hang onto the ball longer and forcing him into poor decisions or making throws a beat late.

Let me state the obvious and say that type of offense would get eaten alive by the likes of LSU/'Bama. If the pass play is starting at, or behind the line of scrimmage, both of those defenses are far too fast to be consistently beaten.

[BillJasper]

Let me state the obvious and say that type of offense would get eaten alive by the likes of LSU/'Bama. If the pass play is starting at, or behind the line of scrimmage, both of those defenses are far too fast to be consistently beaten.

And they'll more than likely get eaten alive next week vs. Oklahoma.

[jbergey22]

And they'll more than likely get eaten alive next week vs. Oklahoma.

I dont know about this. Texas Tech uses them same type of passes which seemed to work well against Oklahoma.

I think it should be a decent high scoring game. I dont think I could say Oklahoma is clearly a lot better than Oki St though. Give me Oklahoma by a FG.

[BillJasper]

I dont know about this. Texas Tech uses them same type of passes which seemed to work well against Oklahoma.

I think it should be a decent high scoring game. I dont think I could say Oklahoma is clearly a lot better than Oki St though. Give me Oklahoma by a FG.

I think it was simply another instance of a team looking past an opponent they didn't take seriously.

[B & B]

I'm happy for Iowa State, but really? You run out on the field after the events that happened today? Seriously?

They just beat an undefeated #2 team in the country.

The 18-22 year old kids arent thinking 'Lets not storm the field after our huge overtime upset win because the womens basketball coach just accidentally died'

Its perhaps one of the biggest wins in terms of upsets in Big12 conference history for the program.


Now, Clemson storming the field after a 3 pt OT home win over Wake Forest is another story.

[BillJasper]

Corso actually made a very good point just now about the Oklahoma loss to Texas Tech. Tech actually had a mobile QB that the Sooners' had to account for. Not sure Brandon Weeden is running anywhere. From what I've seen the dude is a fucking statue. :lol:

[CU Tiger]

Now, Clemson storming the field after a 3 pt OT home win over Wake Forest is another story.


1) It was not an OT win.
2) We did not "storm" the field. Every game, win or lose, our fans are welcomed onto the field where the stadium waits approximately 5 minutes while the team gathers and sings the alma mater at the Paw.....win, lose or draw we exit the stadium from the field, out through the player gates.

[Ben E Lou]

1) It was not an OT win.
2) We did not "storm" the field. Every game, win or lose, our fans are welcomed onto the field where the stadium waits approximately 5 minutes while the team gathers and sings the alma mater at the Paw.....win, lose or draw we exit the stadium from the field, out through the player gates.I certainly have no affinity for "Auburn With A Lake," but he's right. They're on the field every game.

[jbergey22]

Who did Montana State lose to?

EDIT
Utah 27-10

[JonInMiddleGA]

Who did Montana State lose to?

Utah, 27-10 in the season opener

[jbergey22]

Utah, 27-10 in the season opener

Thank you

[DeToxRox]

lol at Corso saying "Aw fuck it" on Gameday.

[Dr. Sak]

I heard it too

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

lol at Corso saying "Aw fuck it" on Gameday.

Hilarious. Just went back to watch it again. The look on the faces of the other guys was priceless.

[GrantDawg]

I certainly have no affinity for "Auburn With A Lake," but he's right. They're on the field every game.


Hehe. RIP Lewis. :)

[Grover]

Time to settle in for an eternally frustrating afternoon of Shoelace Robinson.

[whomario]

love that the fans start shouting the time on the clock after that delay penalty :)

[Matthean]

love that the fans start shouting the time on the clock after that delay penalty :)

For those not watching, the Big House has no/little power and the refs are manually handling the play clock.

7-0 Michigan.

[Dr. Sak]

Corso just made an apology.

[Ben E Lou]

lol at Corso saying "Aw fuck it" on Gameday.I missed it, but it's all over YouTube already. Here's one of the better quality early versions.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/4IuQGLPGFkI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[GrantDawg]

Herbstriet turned so red he would have glowed in the dark. That was too funny.

[MJ4H]

Better version, definitely better audio.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/1bGBrit4EMo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[BillJasper]

Just apologized.

[Matthean]

10-0 Michigan. This might be the game where Michigan proves how much better this team is and pulls off a win a RR team simply wouldn't.

[Matthean]

And just like that Michigan gets killed on a pass play with the two defenders getting beat and stumbling into each other. 10-7.

[CU Tiger]

Hehe. RIP Lewis. :)


RIP indeed....

If you've ever heard the "I resnt the allegation, and I resent the all-e-gator line, I still chuckle just thinking about that one.

[tarcone]

Iowa up 14-7. Purdue fumbled the ensuing kickoff. Iowa recovered. Start of the 2nd quarter.
Go Hawks!

[JonInMiddleGA]

If you've ever heard the "I resnt the allegation, and I resent the all-e-gator line, I still chuckle just thinking about that one.

I still use that one several times a year.

I haven't run across very many damned good Dawgs, but he was one.

[Matthean]

Meyer did the standard denial of taking the OSU job, or even being offered it.

[Dr. Sak]

Wisconsin continues to baffle me. They look great at times and now are down 14-0 to Illinois.

[Matthean]

Was feeling like Robinson was working on his best game against a credible defense and then he throws his mandatory INT. :banghead:

[Grover]

And there's Robinson's "bad interception of the day"

[tarcone]

Purdue had 4th and long at their own 13. The punter sweeps right. Then kicks it from the 14. Iowa blocked the punt. Strange call and a strange play.

[Matthean]

Outside of a couple of stupid plays by Michigan, they are pretty much manhandling Nebraska. 17-10 Michigan.

[Grover]

Outside of a couple of stupid plays by Michigan, they are pretty much manhandling Nebraska. 17-10 Michigan.

The 9 yard run and the TD run makes up for the mandatory bad pick. I'm surprised at the domination.

[tarcone]

Iowa is sooooooo frustrating.

[MJ4H]

I thought those were 2 pretty clear picks.

[Matthean]

Probably said this before but Rose Bowl officials have to be praying and fasting that PSU doesn't get to the Rose Bowl.

[Dr. Sak]

Illinois just got ripped off on a TD pass against Wisconsin. Should be 21-7 so far.

That was a clear pick. OPI all the way.

[Easy Mac]

Furman up on Florida 15-7 in the first.

[Easy Mac]

I don't expect us to hold on, but leading Florida 22-7 is pretty awesome.

[Matthean]

UK up 10-9 against Georgia as well.

EDIT: Georgia 12-10.

[Easy Mac]

22-14. Florida out sized, muscled and sped on their last drive.

[Matthean]

Outside of a couple of stupid plays by Michigan, they are pretty much manhandling Nebraska. 17-10 Michigan.

Still the same. 24-10.

[tarcone]

Its so windy at Purdue, that the Purdue punter just downed his own punt.

[Dr. Sak]

Didn't alter his route and that never gets called.

The fact that you said it is never called means nothing. The defender has clear right to his path...a WR by rule has to avoid contact. The first TD that was called back there was contact and it did alter the DB. The second one I did not see so I can't comment.

[Easy Mac]

Fu up 22-20. We just need the halftime buzzer.

[Dr. Sak]

Its so windy at Purdue, that the Purdue punter just downed his own punt.

Rules question for you...can he repunt it? :)

[RomaGoth]

Michigan putting a beatdown on Nebraska.

[Matthean]

Stupid penalty countered by fake FG play and it's 31-10 Michigan. This is encouraging with OSU coming to town.

[Easy Mac]

Punt blocked, Florida got a short field. Fu down 22-27. Just left a couple minutes too many on the clock.

[RomaGoth]

Stupid penalty countered by fake FG play and it's 31-10 Michigan. This is encouraging with OSU coming to town.

That facemask penalty was inexcusable, he has to know better than to do something stupid like that. Luckily, the fake fg worked and they ended up scoring a TD anyway.

[tarcone]

Rules question for you...can he repunt it? :)

Great question. In this instance it was 9 yards beyond the LOS. So, no. But if he had caught behind the LOS, I would say yes, he could re-punt it. It is not a forward pass. So, being a kicked ball, I think he could.

[B & B]

On the bright side, furball can still cover the +31

[Dr. Sak]

Great question. In this instance it was 9 yards beyond the LOS. So, no. But if he had caught behind the LOS, I would say yes, he could re-punt it. It is not a forward pass. So, being a kicked ball, I think he could.

As long as the ball does not hit beyond the LOS, he can repunt. We had a ball once get blown back behind the LOS and the punter rekicked it.

[Matthean]

That was a rather favorable call for Michigan on the roughing the kicker penalty.

[DeToxRox]

That was a rather favorable call for Michigan on the roughing the kicker penalty.

You can say that again. Awful call against Nebraska. Should have been a 5 yarder, not 15.

[mauchow]

Montee Ball carrying the load today. Windy day makes it a running day. Ball picks up his 30th touchdown on the season which hes the fifth player in history to do so.

Good second half badgers.

[Matthean]

You can say that again. Awful call against Nebraska. Should have been a 5 yarder, not 15.

And Michigan sticks a fork in Nebraska for it. 38-17.

[mauchow]

A great season for Michigan no doubt. Hokes inaugural season was a good one.

[Matthean]

And Michigan sticks a fork in Nebraska for it. 38-17.

And the fumble on the kickoff is just salt in the wounds.

[RomaGoth]

A great season for Michigan no doubt. Hokes inaugural season was a good one.

+1

He appears to have brought back to Michigan what was missing while Rodriguez was there - heart, grit, and hard work. Hopefully it continues beyond this year.

[RomaGoth]

Another Nebraska turnover.

[RomaGoth]

Dola

Michigan TD.

[Matthean]

And the fumble on the kickoff is just salt in the wounds.

Or the next TO. :lol:

[Grover]

I absolutely love Fitz Toussaint. Great TD run. Excellent cut in the backfield, great patience to wait for the blocker and then turning on the jets.

[CU Tiger]

I still use that one several times a year.

I haven't run across very many damned good Dawgs, but he was one.


That dog'd a biiite youuu....and ho-ax both still make occasional appearances as well....

[Easy Mac]

Why is itwhenever Rainey doesn't gain yards on a play, he comes off injured? He looks fine every other play.

[tarcone]

Iowa wins 31-21.
A Purdue player tossed a punch at the end fo the game. The ref said "#3 of Purdue has excused himself for the rest of the game." Classic.

[Matthean]

I absolutely love Fitz Toussaint. Great TD run. Excellent cut in the backfield, great patience to wait for the blocker and then turning on the jets.

+1, but I say this every week. The addition of him and Countess is why Michigan is getting better as the year goes along.

Mildly surprising that 'Bama has given up 14 in a half to GSU. Only Florida has gotten that high.

[Matthean]

Swope of GSU has 12 carries for 131 yards and a score and the 2nd half just started. GSU has only attempted two passes and completed one. The one went for 39 yards and a score.

[miked]

RU romps Cincinnati as the worst rushing offense in CFB goes for over 200 yards. If we beat UConn next week, we need a miracle from USF over Louisville and WVU needs to lose 1 of their 2 left. I can't believe if UL, RU, and WVU all finish 5-2, UL goes to the BCS game because they beat both of us. They will be 7-5 with losses to FIU and Marshall (and PIT).

[miked]

I also think it's possible that 4 teams end up tied, in which case I have no idea what happens (WVU, RU, UL, Cin)

[Matthean]

'Bama scores and GSU returns the kickoff for a TD. 31-21 'Bama.

[Swaggs]

I also think it's possible that 4 teams end up tied, in which case I have no idea what happens (WVU, RU, UL, Cin)

Someone on the WVU board built a spreadsheet to show what happens in every remaining scenario with the schedule and I think with that particular four-way tie, it goes to the highest ranked team (which would likely be WVU).

WVU's outlook is generally to win out and hope for that 4-way tie and/or Cincy to win out or to hope that Louisville loses again.

[Matthean]

'Bama scores again. If there is a difference between the two teams, its that GSU can't hang at all with 'Bama's passing game.

[RomaGoth]

Clemson is getting smoked by NC State.

[miked]

Also, every team in the BE can become bowl eligible. Amazing.

[Matthean]

'Bama pulls away and wins 45-21. Richardson had another run where it was a pile of guys and he ends up 7 yards down the field in the end all done while in the pile. I have no idea if Fowler is ever going to be a featured back, but he's an ox of a player. He got hit at the line and broke tackles and dragged people for the 10+ yards for a first down. He nearly scored on another nice run as well.

[Matthean]

no lights in the men's room... good thing we r not at Penn state

Twitter (https://twitter.com/#!/djax_507/status/137929911968075777)

Referencing no power in The Big House.

[Matthean]

Huge goal line stand by OSU to keep it at 20-14. I would have kicked it to go up by 9.

[MJ4H]

31-10 Arkansas over Miss State early 3rd. Tyler Wilson putting on quite a show numbers-wise.

[mauchow]

Will montee ball get an invite to new york ?

[jbergey22]

Will montee ball get an invite to new york ?

I havent seen him mentioned for some reason. Maybe it is because Wilson is taking a lot of his credit. These are the most common 7 I have been seeing

1. Weeden
2. Luck
3. Richardson
4. Moore
5. James
6. Keenan
7. L Jones

In no particular order.

Im not sure how the voters will look at his game today but I think Richardson is probably the front runner again. Its really tough this year.

[digamma]

Harvard wins The Game in a rout 45-7 to cap off a 7-0 Ivy campaign.

In sad news, a fan was killed after being struck by a UHaul at a tailgate in New Haven. Tragic story, but having gone to several games in New Haven, I am actually surprised there hasn't been an accident before now. Kids driving UHauls with other kids and beer in the back is just not a great idea. Granted, I wouldn't have picked this way as a way for an accident to happen (the Uhaul struck pedestrians).

[CU Tiger]

HAHAHA>.....fawk,
So apparently CLemson thought clinching the division meant you didnt have to play again until the conference championship game....

I actually called a loss here, with NCSU being backed into a corner and Clemson having less to play for, but didnt really expect this.

Oh well.....9-2 4 games to go maybe we can finally get that elusive 10 win season.

[mauchow]

Is it just me or is it crazy that guys like Richardson and LaMichael James get the nod over Ball who has had some GREAT runs this year like the two listed here. Ball was the WORKHORSE today - 38 carries, obviously the highest of his career. Let's assume he gets 5 more touchdowns in the last two games (assuming Wisconsin wins next week against Penn St and then plays Michigan St) he would end up with 35 TDs on the season, four away from the crazy season that Barry Sanders had so many years ago.

1466 yards on the ground this year, a full yard per carry more than Richardson but a full yard less than L. James. 10+ touchdowns more than the two of them. Two hail mary's away from having an undefeated season (which of course would vault him and Russell Wilson to the top most likely) takes them off the list completely.

Even though hes not being mentioned now, I do believe that Ball will be invited to New York.

I havent seen him mentioned for some reason. Maybe it is because Wilson is taking a lot of his credit. These are the most common 7 I have been seeing

1. Weeden
2. Luck
3. Richardson
4. Moore
5. James
6. Keenan
7. L Jones

In no particular order.

Im not sure how the voters will look at his game today but I think Richardson is probably the front runner again. Its really tough this year.

[Matthean]

Nice to see PSU get the win and not have to deal with a free fall with the scandal. OSU looks human enough to were I think Michigan has more than a shot.

[Matthean]

Is it just me or is it crazy that guys like Richardson and LaMichael James get the nod over Ball who has had some GREAT runs this year like the two listed here. Ball was the WORKHORSE today - 38 carries, obviously the highest of his career. Let's assume he gets 5 more touchdowns in the last two games (assuming Wisconsin wins next week against Penn St and then plays Michigan St) he would end up with 35 TDs on the season, four away from the crazy season that Barry Sanders had so many years ago.

1466 yards on the ground this year, a full yard per carry more than Richardson but a full yard less than L. James. 10+ touchdowns more than the two of them. Two hail mary's away from having an undefeated season (which of course would vault him and Russell Wilson to the top most likely) takes them off the list completely.

Even though hes not being mentioned now, I do believe that Ball will be invited to New York.

Wilson likely takes some of it away. Anybody else on that list is considered "the guy" on offense. Without looking, I'm sure some of those stats are had via stat padding games when they were blowing out teams like Indiana. His best game would likely be vs. Nebraska with 151 yards and 4 TDs, but Toussaint for Michigan just posted 138 with 2 TDs.

[MJ4H]

44-17 Arkansas wins. Sets up a big one in Baton Rouge Friday. Back to back 10 win seasons? Don't remember the last one of those.

[mauchow]

Wilson likely takes some of it away. Anybody else on that list is considered "the guy" on offense. Without looking, I'm sure some of those stats are had via stat padding games when they were blowing out teams like Indiana. His best game would likely be vs. Nebraska with 151 yards and 4 TDs, but Toussaint for Michigan just posted 138 with 2 TDs.

He splits time w James white and would never touch the field in the fourth Quaternary in many of his games. If you look at stats he didn't pad his stats during the small games. It pretty much stayed the same throughout w a big game here and there.

Is it not even more impressive when you have a guy like Wilson taking yards and tds away from you w his arm and legs? It can be said that Wilson opened up the run game which is definitely true for who would have been playing instead of Wilson but still.. there is no way James white would have done what ball has done if roles were reversed. Ball has been an absolute stud this year.

[SirFozzie]

Penn State vs Wisconsin next week for a shot in the inaugural Big 10 championship game.. saw an interview with Jay Pateron on sportscenter over night this morning (they were talking about the lung cancer diagnosis), where they asked him about the Big 10 taking the Paterno name off the trophy, and he said if they make it there and win it, they'll bring a little yellow post it note with JoePa's name on it and put it back on the trophy.

[DeToxRox]

You know, I never actually looked at the Pac 12 standings to see who Oregon would face for the Pac 12 Title, but now that I have I wish I hadn't. That is going to be an ugly game no matter who makes it. Yeesh.

[B & B]

They should get rid of these tie-ins for automatic BCS games, or at the very least remove the ACC and BIG EAST.

[cuervo72]

Now that I've found the right thread...these camera angles for Vandy/Tenn stink.

[jbergey22]

Is it just me or is it crazy that guys like Richardson and LaMichael James get the nod over Ball who has had some GREAT runs this year like the two listed here.

I dont think it is just you. Ball is a monster. There is bias in it.

Being that Alabama has been ranked so high all year and Richardson carries their offense he is going to get the attention.

Oregon did just fine with James out so Id certainly have Ball ahead of him. James is exciting and fun to watch but I think Ball is more important to his teams success.

[Swaggs]

They should get rid of these tie-ins for automatic BCS games, or at the very least remove the ACC and BIG EAST.

Sounds like they are working on making it the top 10 in the BCS standings. That would eliminate the ACC and Big East most years and allow for multiple SEC teams.

I still think this is a slippery slope, as you are going to have conferences with 10 members and conferences with 14 members. What keeps the conferences with extra voters from bumping up their teams in the standings when that much money is at stake?

[bronconick]

Sounds like they are working on making it the top 10 in the BCS standings.


That will never happen. That would require Jim Delany to agree in a year like this to give up his Rose Bowl bid.

[SirFozzie]

yeah, the Hybrid BCS type playoff system is broken and no amount of tinkering will save it. Either go back to traditional bowls, or go to a full fledged playoff.

[jbergey22]

The Ducks down 14 at home to a very talented USC team. This wont come easy.

[dawgfan]

The Ducks down 14 at home to a very talented USC team. This wont come easy.
USC is still a very good, very dangerous team. The elder Kiffin's defense has made great strides this year from last year.

There's no way the scholarship reductions won't affect USC moving forward though - while they'll still have top-shelf talent, they'll be thinner and have less margin for error. When injuries inevitably pile up, they're going to struggle.

But this year they are clearly the class of the Pac-12 South and one of the top-3 teams in the conference. Probably at least a top-15 team nationally, maybe top-10.

[MizzouRah]

Great game by Mizzou without Josey, we really miss that kid.

[Julio Riddols]

Why is everyone on Oregon called by their 1st names? Weird. LaMichael, Darren..

[Julio Riddols]

Oh no, LaMichael.. no.. LaMichael is grabbing LaMichael's elbow..

[Grover]

Kelly's gotta be pretty ticked he didn't get that timeout...

[mauchow]

Annnnnnd further helping the case for a lame rematch of LSU and Bama.

Lovely

edit: ugh, tomorrow night we might see SEC #1, 2 and 3 in the BCS.

[bhlloy]

What would you rather, another beat down of the Ducks by LSU? I was strongly against LSU-Bama again coming into this week but let's be honest, OSU would have got their asses handed to them and we'd all be bitching about it by half time.

Anyhow, the Ducks often don't play well in the first half but by the second half the other team is gassed and they pull away. I'm still not holding out much hope of an SC victory.

[EagleFan]

I'll say it again.... playoffs anyone?

:)

[mauchow]

I'm not saying the best matchup isn't Bama/LSU - I'm more or less wishing it was a playoff system of some sorts. I'd rather see a rematch of the #1 and #2 seeds meeting in the finals after two playoff games instead of just giving it to them.

[cartman]

Horrible miscall on the Horns. Got called for a punt catch interference when the defender was 3 yards away and the returner muffed the punt on the far side. Texas recovered the muff, but the call gave KSU the ball near midfield instead of Texas right outside the red zone.

[k0ruptr]

Exactly. Oregon starts slow a lot. If anyone can put up 42 in the 2nd half it's them. That being said if they lose this game I have no idea what matchup I'd wanna see in the BCS championship. I can't think of one that will make me Excited.

[EagleFan]

Those Oregon uniforms are butt ugly.

[spleen1015]

Those Oregon uniforms are butt ugly.

+1

I was coming to post the same thing.

[tucker rocky]

Seems Oregon is having a case of the letdowns.

Also curious as to why the refs didn't review that last TD by USC.

[k0ruptr]

If the Ducks lose, I'm rooting for total chaos. in my version Baylor finishes off OU tonight, Arkansas pulls the upset agains LSU. Auburn throws a cool mil @ Cam to sneak back for the Iron Bowl and they take care of business and then OU beats OSU. Georgia wins the SEC championship. Then wtf do they do? I have no idea where that leaves us and I'm not coherent enough to figure it out right now

maybe VT vs someone.

[mckerney]

What worse, Baylor's decision to go for it there or the playcall?

[Swaggs]

Am I the only one that has watched the Corso clip about 25 times today and still finds it hilarious? :)

The reactions by Fowler and Herbstreit kill me every time.

[tarcone]

If the Ducks lose, I'm rooting for total chaos. in my version Baylor finishes off OU tonight, Arkansas pulls the upset agains LSU. Auburn throws a cool mil @ Cam to sneak back for the Iron Bowl and they take care of business and then OU beats OSU. Georgia wins the SEC championship. Then wtf do they do? I have no idea where that leaves us and I'm not coherent enough to figure it out right now

I like this scenario.

[k0ruptr]

Baylor is gonna fuck it all up.. bah lol

[tucker rocky]

So how far does Houston move up?
6,7, or 8?

[GrantDawg]

I like this scenario.


Me, too. :)

[k0ruptr]

Hawaii of 2007 screwed Houston. They are mirror images. Amazing QB high octane offense with a horrid schedule. Tulsa is the best team they will play all year.

[k0ruptr]

Although granted, Houston's offense is probably a little better then Hawaii's was. Maybe not I dunno. But I'm guessing if Case got matched up against an SEC D, it might not go so well.

[Dr. Sak]

Sounds like the Vandy/Tennessee game ended in a mess

[EagleFan]

Horrible spot on that previous play.

[Dr. Sak]

The referee in tonight's USC/Oregon is none other than Ed Hochuli's son.

[k0ruptr]

Ducks might not be done just yet. but they have 0 room for error.

[spleen1015]

Is the #5 that returned that kickoff for a TD for Oregon also the QB?

[tucker rocky]

Ugly injury by the VA player.

[k0ruptr]

Wow. Huge pick

[bhlloy]

The throw was fine, the receiver was being mugged and it went through his hands

[Honolulu_Blue]

I really enjoy watching Oregon play.

[k0ruptr]

Wow. Oregon has to finish off this comeback now. That D is kinda suspect sometimes but damn when that Offense gets on a roll it's amazing.

[tucker rocky]

Bizarre ending in Tallahassee.

[Lathum]

wow, USC, wow

[bhlloy]

It's crazy in this situation when you know you have to score a TD or lose

[bhlloy]

lol, awesome

[kingfc22]

Nice call on the screen play there

[cuervo72]

Baylor is gonna fuck it all up.. bah lol

Yeah, it's too bad there's no Kansas Southern for Oklahoma to play this week.

[tucker rocky]

USC defense is clearly gassed.

[tarcone]

Why does the SEC play weak teams this late in the season. Is another bye week type thing for the teams?

[mckerney]

Baylor is gonna fuck it all up.. bah lol

They certainly looked like they were going to blow it earlier, but Robert Griffin too good.

[Grover]

This is incredible. One of the most exciting games I've watched all year.

ANYTHING to make Lane Kiffin look bad.

[bhlloy]

This is stupid defensive playcalling, don't blitz 5 guys every time when they are killing you on the screen and the QB isn't a huge threat to pass

[mckerney]

Why does the SEC play weak teams this late in the season. Is another bye week type thing for the teams?

They start playing conference games earlier than conferences like the Big Ten, got to play the non cons at some point.

[tarcone]

Missed FG anyone?

[mauchow]

I don't care how QUICK your offense is - use your timeouts. Awful management.

[mckerney]

Oregon deserves to lose this for clock management with three timeouts on last drive. At least needed to call a TO after the sack early on.

[EagleFan]

Do they think that you get bonus point for not using timeouts.

That was also a lousy play called for the now previous play.

[tucker rocky]

Ninja!

[kingfc22]

I'm saying a push wide right

[mckerney]

Was kind of hoping Kiffin would do the TO right before the snap and have the Ducks kicker miss that and hit the next.

[tucker rocky]

Missed.

[tarcone]

Pulled wide left

[tarcone]

They start playing conference games earlier than conferences like the Big Ten, got to play the non cons at some point.

Why do they start a week earlier?

[kingfc22]

So 2, 4, 5 & 7 all lose.

[bhlloy]

wow... that was some world class shitty playcalling and management by Kelly

With the timeouts, Oregon could have walked in and scored. How the fuck do you not give yourself time to do that against a defense you are completely shredding. I'm absolutely speechless how terrible that was. But I'll take it.

[tucker rocky]

So, who will be #4 in the rankings, after 3 upsets this week?

[tarcone]

Oklahoma not dead yet

[Izulde]

A Bama-LSU rematch in a national title game would be the most boring thing ever. Hope that doesn't come to pass.

[Danny]

Well, #5 haven't lost yet

[Tigercat]

So 1, 2, and 3 will all from the same conference division. Crazy.

[Julio Riddols]

Man, its really quiet in Waco.

[Danny]

VT would then be #4 I guess with Stanford #5 if they win.

[Swaggs]

Should be a fun day tomorrow, waiting to see how the polls play out.

If Baylor knocks of Oklahoma, we should have SEC teams 1-3. Then what? Virginia Tech or Houston? Stanford? Oklahoma State sticks in the top 5?

I kind of feel bad for Boise State. This could have been their year.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I'm a big fan of Heather Cox.

I think she is number one in my sideline reporter rankings.

[k0ruptr]

Chaos is gonna happen guys. heard it from me first... nah but really I just wanna see so much craziness that the guys in charge of the BCS will come to the press conference after the season and just say "fuck it, none of you deserve it. seasons over" hahaha

[Danny]

Take that back, I say Ok State stays #4 with the other teams slotting #5 and #6

[dawgfan]

That Oregon kicker was a late decommit from Washington, so I'm feeling some extra level of schadenfreude right now. Fuck him, fuck Oregon.

[Tigercat]

A Bama-LSU rematch in a national title game would be the most boring thing ever. Hope that doesn't come to pass.

Both coaches are great to excellent bowl game motivators. Playing a second time neither team will be as tight. I would bet money on a good to great game. 24-17 or thereabouts. (With a couple of TDs on big special teams and defensive plays.)

[mauchow]

With nearly only five minutes to play - why is Baylor NOT running the clock down to 1 second EVERY SINGLE PLAY.

Edit: they did that time..

[spleen1015]

You miss a 37 yard FG at the gun to lose and you have a TO left. You're pretty stupid, IMO.

[Julio Riddols]

And Baylor is snapping the ball with 15 seconds on the play clock. hmm...