(Official?) Draft Thread/Watch Party

[sterlingice]

Actually, I'll be heading out soon so I guess I can't do a whole lot but I'll kick it off.

I was afraid the Bengals would take 15 mins after Tagliabue went to the podium. Thankfully they only took about a minute. I don't think it should be that tough since they already signed him to a fat contract and all.

SI

[JeeberD]

The Lions didn't take their whole time either, did they? That's a nice change...

[Ben E Lou]

For those that missed it, Jim has set up a draft chat room:The chat room is set up now on IRC.

Host is irc.debian.org
Room is #FOF

For FAQs, instructions and/or to download an IRC application, visit www.mirc.com.

[Craptacular]

#3 ... now things get interesting. :D

[sterlingice]

Yeah, I'm curious what my Texans will do. Too bad no one wants to trade down or else I'm sure they would have done that.

SI

[Craptacular]

Good move Texans. 3 for 3 so far (like that was tough).

[Craptacular]

OOPS! I have ESPN's draftcast on, and they put up Jason Johnson (QB) as the #3 pick for 15 seconds or so.

[sterlingice]

I dunno if I like this pick. I thought he was pretty overrated. Basically, that Miami factor. Maybe I'm just biased, tho.

SI

[Schmidty]

I am sooo excited and happy that the Lions got Rogers!!!!!

[Craptacular]

4th - Jets - Dewayne Roberston ... overpaid!!!!

[JeeberD]

So, it looks like the Cowboys get Newman...

[sterlingice]

Wow- only a half hour for the first 4 picks. As my girlfriend walked in and said "wow- they might only take 12 hours this year". Anyways, I'm heading out.

SI

[Calis]

Please oh please let some freak occurence come up, so my boy Newman isn't forced to play for the Cowboys. ;)

[Craptacular]

Anyone think SkyDog should sticky this thread (or one of the draft threads)??

[JeeberD]

Originally posted by Calis
Please oh please let some freak occurence come up, so my boy Newman isn't forced to play for the Cowboys. ;)

Well, Parcells may overrule Jones and select Kennedy...

Heh, yeah right, Jerry letting someone overrule him...

[JeeberD]

Yup, Newman it is... :)

[Craptacular]

5 - Cowboys - Terrence Newman
No surprises yet.

[JeeberD]

You know, the Cowboys could have a truly great secondary in the very near future. Roy Williams, Terance Newman, Derek Ross...lotsa young talent there...

[ISiddiqui]

Wow... the first four went exactly as thought :D.

Now it gets interesting.

[Philliesfan980]

Does anyone else here HATE Chris Bergman? He seems like the "arrogant" asshole type.

Sorry, kinda off topic, but since he's going to be on all day just wanted to see if I wasn't the only one who though this.

[ISiddiqui]

Nope, I LOVE Berman :D.

But, whatever floats you boat ;).

[JeeberD]

Yeah, Boomer's cool. Love him on Primetime...

[Philliesfan980]

I understand his appeal. He's just too much "over the top".

A few years ago my Bergman was thinking of one of his "crazy" names for Carlos Delgado. He was asking for help on the air (I think this was the time when he was still doing baseball tonight). Anyway, my Boss called in and left a message saying Carlos "Innagodda" Delgado would be a good "fake" name. (I know it sucks, but thats not the point of this). Anyway, Bergman proceeded to use it and flaunt it. Didn't thank anyone for it, not even so much as an espn hat. I wonder how many other people's things he stole without credit. Stuff like that really bothers me.

[Craptacular]

TRADE #6 to New Orleans .... to take Jonathan Sullivan?!!?!?

[JeeberD]

Huh???

[ISiddiqui]

TRADE!

Arizona trade to New Orleans... and they pick Jon Sullivan!!

Wow! I thought it was gonna be Trufant!

[Craptacular]

Jim's contest just got REAL interesting! I should have written down my picks, but I know that one was way off.

[Philliesfan980]

Wow, what a terrible pick! No love for Jimmy Kennedy!

[ISiddiqui]

Very interesting...

Does Arizona get any more than NO's two #1s?

[Thomkal]

Excuse me while I scream:

Not only do my beloved Cards trade down in the 1st, they trade down in the 2nd and lose a 4th rounder apparantly. Unbelievable...if it was anybody other Arizona.

[Craptacular]

They swap 2nd rounders (N.O. moves up), and I think Arizona get's a 4th.

[Craptacular]

I thought Ariznoa got the 4th ... maybe I heard that wrong.

[Schmidty]

What a horrible trade for the Saints.

Trade up.......to take Sullivan!?!?!?!

[vtbub]

Sits and scratches head....mmm maybe they signed ALF as their GM in a package deal with Emmitt.

[mckerney]

Suggs @ 7?

[Craptacular]

mckerney, would you rather see Suggs or Kennedy (or someone else)?

[The Afoci]

I hope suggs, but kennedy would be okay too. I definately has to be dl. Tice says high pick must be lineman. Hopefully he sticks to that.

[Thomkal]

espn.com is saying Saints got the Cards 4th.

[Craptacular]

OK, I was wrong, N.O. gets the 4th.

N.O. gets 6, 37, 102
Ari gets 17, 18, 54

[ISiddiqui]

HOLY CRAP!

Vikings Passed!

[JeeberD]

What's going on with the Vikes???

[vtbub]

What the hell...the Vikes pass?!?

[Schmidty]

What the hell?!?!?!!?!

[Craptacular]

Vikings run out of time ... again!

Jax gets Leftwich!!!!

[ISiddiqui]

Jags got Leftwich!

Great pick!

[vtbub]

Leftwich great pick for Jax

[JeeberD]

I'm confused...did the Vikes lose their pick? What's going on????

Edit: OK, so they can choose whenever they want. This is freakin weird...

[korme]

I remember last year the same thing happened to MInnesota... what is wrong with them and drafting??

[ISiddiqui]

Panthers got Jordan Gross! They got their man!

[SFL Cat]

What are the Vikes thinking?

[The Afoci]

Minnesota, Cincy of the midwest...or more midwest.

[Craptacular]

Vikes- Kevin Williams, DT

[Craptacular]

10th - Ravens - Terrell suggs

[ISiddiqui]

Jeez... this is like gangbusters!

Ravens get Suggs!

[JeeberD]

Wow, this is the fastest draft I've ever freakin seen...

[vtbub]

Somebody please explain wtf just happened?

[Craptacular]

The great news is this really sped up the draft!

[Schmidty]

The Vikes really dropped the ball.

[Craptacular]

Seattle - 11 - Marcus Trufant

[ISiddiqui]

Seattle - Marcas Trufant

[JeeberD]

Damn, Kennedy's really dropping...

[vtbub]

Mercy, 5 picks in 7 minutes

[ISiddiqui]

Originally posted by JeeberD
Wow, this is the fastest draft I've ever freakin seen...

Amen! It is 1:15, and we've done 11 picks! Everyone was trying to beat the Vikings before they were able to get up there :D.

Great fun!

[Radii]

that was insane. I wanted to see the Panthers get Leftwich but a solid O-lineman I cannot complain about.

[vtbub]

What's the deal with Gross?

[Craptacular]

Originally posted by vtbub
Somebody please explain wtf just happened?

The Vikes passed, meaning the next team could pick right away. The Vikings could make their pick at any time. A bunch of teams pulled the trigger to try and beat the Vikes. Who knows, the Vikes may have still gotten their man.

[MikeVic]

ahahaha. This is freaking amazing! so fast!! And weird picks too! I hope Steelers get some awesome talent ;)

[ISiddiqui]

I need some time to breathe, thankfully the Rams are trying to figure out what just happened too ;).

[vtbub]

Some of that was sarcastic. Bet the Vikes guy holds out for higher money.

[vtbub]

Dola, Vikes got who they wanted.

[ISiddiqui]

Tice says that they were trying to make a deal with Baltimore, but it didn't get in on time, and that is why they had to pass.

[JeeberD]

So the Vikes and the Ravens were trying to do a trade and the Ravens didn't turn in their card? That's what started that mess?

[Craptacular]

Mike Tice is saying he thought they consumated a trade with the Ravens, but Baltimore didn't turn in the card on time. They wanted to go to #10 and get Williams.

[Craptacular]

I am the slowest typer apparently. :D

[ISiddiqui]

Sneaky Ravens ;).

[vtbub]

Thinking seems to be in short supply.

[The Afoci]

That sucks...they have the worst trouble in the draft under Tice..

[ISiddiqui]

Originally posted by Craptacular
I am the slowest typer apparently. :D

Naw... you beat me on the Zona deal ;).

[Radii]

so the ravens wanted leftwich? or were they trying to trade up b/c suggs was still on the board? If they wanted leftwich and it was their fault for not getting the card turned in on time I bet Brian Billick has a vein in his forehead that's about to burst right now. Hope someone's got a camcorder on that :)

[vtbub]

If Balt was looking QB, Grossman was still there.

[ISiddiqui]

Rams - Jimmy Kennedy

[JeeberD]

St Louis _ Kennedy

Nice pick, though they need offensive line help bad...

[Craptacular]

Well, I was wrong. I figured someone would grab another QB before the Bears picked at #13. Do they pull the trigger??

[ISiddiqui]

Originally posted by vtbub
If Balt was looking QB, Grossman was still there.

It's too high to pick Grossman, IMO.

[vtbub]

I'd would have thought o-line. They took the best player on the board.

[JeeberD]

Boller to the Bears?

[vtbub]

Originally posted by ISiddiqui
It's too high to pick Grossman, IMO.

I would agree.

[ISiddiqui]

So what do the Bears do?

Boller? Defense?

Who knows? :D

[The Afoci]

boss bailey and urlacker sp? would be unbelievable to watch! although as a viking fan, I hope they pass, but who would be dumb enough to do that ;)

[Schmidty]

Lions trade Shaun Rogers and a 4th rounder to the Bears for the 13th pick, and draft Boss Bailey. (I wish).

[JeeberD]

Bears and Pats swap...

Pats take Ty Warren, not a surprise there

[vtbub]

pats bears swap

[ISiddiqui]

NE and Chicago traded.

NE - Ty Warren

[mckerney]

Originally posted by Craptacular
mckerney, would you rather see Suggs or Kennedy (or someone else)?

I owuldn' have rather had Suggs, guess it's gonna have to be Williams though...

The whole thing that happened kinda sucked, too bad the Vikings didn't get the same treatment the Cowboys did last year.

And I guess we're supposed to buy the line that this was "the guy they wanted", it's just that this year they didn't try to take anyone else before hand.

[ISiddiqui]

That was the wierdest trade... no one knew about it ;).

[vtbub]

Mel's hair is dripping

[Craptacular]

Why would they jump up to take Warren ahead of the Bears???

[JeeberD]

Originally posted by Craptacular
Why would they jump up to take Warren ahead of the Bears???

Hell if I know...

[ISiddiqui]

Apparently the Bears get a 6th rounder out of it.

JEEZ, New England, just because you have so many picks, doesn't mean you have to give them all away!

[ISiddiqui]

Bears - Mike Haynes

[JeeberD]

Hmmm, Bears take DE Haynes...

[Thomkal]

This has been a draft with some stupid trades: First the Cards, now the Patriots. I can't believe there was any interest in other teams trading with the Bears to get Warren over the Patriots.

[JeeberD]

Originally posted by ISiddiqui
Apparently the Bears get a 6th rounder out of it.

JEEZ, New England, just because you have so many picks, doesn't mean you have to give them all away!

NE thought Chicago was going to take Warren? But why would they trade with them then? Makes no sense to me...

[JeeberD]

I love Tony Kornheiser...

[vtbub]

SD-PHI swap

[ISiddiqui]

Eagles traded with San Diego and they are picking next!!

WOW... trades, fast picks!

[vtbub]

PTI is great.:)

[Craptacular]

Eagles just traded to get #15 from S.D.

McGahee?

[JeeberD]

I hate the Eagles (but not as much as the Skins of the Niners)...

[vtbub]

Originally posted by Craptacular
Eagles just traded to get #15 from S.D.

McGahee?
Oh dear lord.

[ISiddiqui]

I prefer Around the Horn... I know, I know... I'm the only one :p.

[JeeberD]

They wouldn't take McGahee this early, would they? I thought he was end of first at best...

[JeeberD]

Originally posted by ISiddiqui
I prefer Around the Horn... I know, I know... I'm the only one :p.

Woody Paige rules!!! Of course, the rest of the show stinks...

[ISiddiqui]

Eagles - Jerome MacDougal

[vtbub]

McDougle-DE

[JeeberD]

Philly-McDougle

[ISiddiqui]

nm

[JeeberD]

I'm the slow poster this time...

[Craptacular]

I had the right school!

Honestly, I didn't pick McGahee to go in the first round, but I wouldn't be surprised if anyone from this point on took him.

[JeeberD]

Chefs up next... ;)

[ISiddiqui]

Woody Paige rules!!! Of course, the rest of the show stinks...

NO WAY! Ya gotta love the arrogance of Bob Ryan, the bitterness of T.J. Simers, the whinyness of Jay Mariotti, and the sillyness of Kevin Blackestone (fantasy NASCAR? what?) :D

[JeeberD]

Well, I read Woody for a number of years when I lived in Denver, so I have a soft spot for the guy...

Damn, I'm hungry but don't want to get up and cook. I might miss something!

[ISiddiqui]

Oh, I love Woody too... he's definetly the best, the foil to Max, but the rest rock as well.

I guess Adande has been busy, as well that other Dallas guy ;).

[vtbub]

Vikes and Cards look REAL dumb today.

[Thomkal]

Just watch the Cards take a DE in the next two picks when they could have had Suggs. Just watch :)

[vtbub]

KC-PIT trade

[ISiddiqui]

It depends on who the Cards pick... maybe they look like geniuses... (perhaps they get McGahee?)

[Craptacular]

Steelers trade up for ... Troy Polamalu (however you spell it)

[JeeberD]

Pitt-Troy Polamololololu

[ISiddiqui]

Pittsburgh - Troy Polamalu

[MikeVic]

Steelers Troy!!! Whoo!!!!

[vtbub]

Polamalu, Nice Pick

[ISiddiqui]

Damn, the spelling made me last ;).

[vtbub]

Originally posted by ISiddiqui
It depends on who the Cards pick... maybe they look like geniuses... (perhaps they get McGahee?)

That would make the Emmitt signing look very good.

[MikeVic]

Yes, it would. Which means it won't happen ;)

[JeeberD]

Originally posted by vtbub
That would make the Emmitt signing look very good.

I miss Emmitt... :(

[ISiddiqui]

Hmmm, look at Jaws analysis... maybe the Cards pick a DT and a DE?

[Doug5984]

I think the Cards will take Boss Baily & William Joseph...

[vtbub]

Originally posted by ISiddiqui
Hmmm, look at Jaws analysis... maybe the Cards pick a DT and a DE?

They could have done half of that at 5.

[Craptacular]

Hmm, too high for Bryant Johnson.

[ISiddiqui]

Cardinals - Bryant Johnson - Penn State

They are back on the clock!

[vtbub]

WR-B. Johnson...most pathetic franchise in football

[ISiddiqui]

They could have done half of that at 5.

It may be a moot point now, but it is better for a poor team like AZ to get two 1st rounders... they need a lot of players.

[vtbub]

Larry Johnson?

[ISiddiqui]

WR-B. Johnson...most pathetic franchise in football

Cincinnati picked again? :D

[vtbub]

LOL

[mrskippy]

Niners will get Kyle Boller
Raiders will get McGahee with the last pick of the round

[ISiddiqui]

Cardinals (again) - Calvin Pace DE

[Craptacular]

Calvin Pace?!?!?!

[vtbub]

Pace?

[JeeberD]

Arizona's really reaching...

[bosshogg23]

Its nice that AZ provides some humor to the draft.

[ISiddiqui]

Silly pick by the Cards... ok, NOW the trade sucked for the Cards!

[vtbub]

luv how diplomatic hair is being on tv.

[vtbub]

Originally posted by ISiddiqui
Silly pick by the Cards... ok, NOW the trade sucked for the Cards!

It took you an hour to realize that, which is about five years sooner than Bidwell will.

[Thomkal]

Sigh....didn't I warn you they'd take a DE? And one who appears to be a reach as well-not even a second rounder on some boards?

And you know they wouldn't have needed to pick a WR necessairly in the first if they kept Boston or sign a free agent WR.

I have no confidence left in the Cardinals coaching and scouting areas.

[FrogMan]

CRAP, was watching the draft on TSN here in Canada and they just switched to the Anaheim/Dallas hockey game!!!

Right before the Pats second first round pick. Guys, feed me!!!

FrogMan

[ISiddiqui]

Well the trade COULD have been good!

If they picked Chris Kelsay and William Joseph, it would have been a good trade for them.

[vtbub]

NE-BAL trade

[Craptacular]

Baltimore - Kyle Boller

[ISiddiqui]

Ravens - Kyle Boller!

[vtbub]

Kyle Boller, Nice PICK!

[bosshogg23]

Good pick for Newsome.

[ISiddiqui]

I wonder what the NE - Bal trade involved...

[FrogMan]

Originally posted by ISiddiqui
I wonder what the NE - Bal trade involved...

Wondering too, anybody got specifics?

FrogMan

[Craptacular]

Now I need everyone to pick SLOW!!!! Sorry, I have to go to softball practice, and I want to see as much of this as possible.

[vtbub]

Ravens are having a great draft.

[bosshogg23]

NE has Balt's 2nd round pick(9th of the round). Not sure what else yet.

[FrogMan]

okay, got specifics on the Pats/Ravens trade...

Ravens get 19th this year
Pats get 41st this year and the Ravens 1st pick next year...

FrogMan

[JeeberD]

Originally posted by vtbub
Ravens are having a great draft.

Indeed...

[vtbub]

Baltimore's 4th this year and 1st next year

[FrogMan]

Originally posted by vtbub
Baltimore's 4th this year and 1st next year

It's actually Baltimore's 2nd this year and 1st next year... Much, much better.

FrogMan

[vtbub]

I'd agree.:)

[bosshogg23]

I wonder why McGinnis didnt say they passed on the best WR left and the best DE left.:D

[vtbub]

George Foster- Shouldn't that have been the RAMS pick?

[bosshogg23]

Why didnt Den take Kwame Harris? I guess there is a reason im not GM but come on........

[JeeberD]

Broncos-Geroge Foster

[SunDancer]

Originally posted by bosshogg23
Why didnt Den take Kwame Harris? I guess there is a reason im not GM but come on........

I think Harris is overrated. Foster could be the top OT in 5-10 years.

[MikeVic]

stupid TSN! I wanted to watch the first round at least!!

[FrogMan]

Originally posted by MikeVic
stupid TSN! I wanted to watch the first round at least!!

I second that, stoooopid football coverage in Canada :mad:

FrogMan

[ISiddiqui]

Browns - Jeff Faine... I actually like this pick.

[vtbub]

A center?

Well they seem to like it.

[bosshogg23]

I thought they might go with Boss Bailey, guess he will be left for Indy to choose now.

Faine is a good pick.

[ISiddiqui]

Yeah, he's a great Center... Will solidify a line for 10 years, at least.

[JeeberD]

Hmmm, World League action on Fox Sports.

Umm, nevermind. I don't think I can watch a football game with a british commentator. It just doesn't work...

[JeeberD]

Chi-Grossman

Yeah, I guess that they needed a QB...

[vtbub]

Grossman-oooohhhhh

[ISiddiqui]

oooh, Grossman just picked

[bosshogg23]

I like what the Bears have done in the past week. Picked up a number of extra picks and still got a quality DE and potentially the future QB.

[ISiddiqui]

Will he be another failed Florida QB? :D.

[vtbub]

Bears have had a good day.

[MikeVic]

Don't they have Kordell??

[JeeberD]

When is EJ Henderson projected to go? I would love to see the Cowboys grab him...

[ISiddiqui]

I dunno, if I was the Bears I would have gotten Leftwich when I had the chance :D.

[bosshogg23]

Henderson is expected to be a 1st rounder. Maybe KC @ 27 or SD @ 30?

Id love to see Boss Bailey slip to the Lions in the 2nd, but dont see it happening.

[Coffee Warlord]

Grossman might actually be good, for one single reason. The Bears have Kordell, so they don't have to throw Rex into the fire year 1. Guy might actually learn how to play for a year or two before he takes to the field.

[MikeVic]

Carson also has a year to learn.. from.. Kitna........ :rolleyes:

[vtbub]

bills-mcgahee

[ISiddiqui]

BILLS TAKE MCGAHEE!

[JeeberD]

Soooo....where's Travis Henry going to go???

[Rich1033]

Wow.

[bosshogg23]

Interesting pick of McGahee.....

[vtbub]

Originally posted by ISiddiqui
I dunno, if I was the Bears I would have gotten Leftwich when I had the chance :D.

But with Kordell being sucky, don't you think Leftwich would be better in a place where he has time to grow in? I think Grossman is a better fit.

[ISiddiqui]

Well, he'll at least be around for a couple years :D.

McGahee ain't coming back this year!

[vtbub]

Originally posted by JeeberD
Soooo....where's Travis Henry going to go???

Nowhere. Willis will not be a premiere feature back til '05. A good rookie next year.

[bbor]

Originally posted by FrogMan
I second that, stoooopid football coverage in Canada :mad:

FrogMan

If it was the CFL draft they would have shown all 42 rounds of it:)

I think i got drafted last year in the CFL draft...and i havent been in highscholl for 12 years :D

[ISiddiqui]

But with Kordell being sucky, don't you think Leftwich would be better in a place where he has time to grow in? I think Grossman is a better fit.

I'd think Grossman needs more time to grow than Leftwich. If I was the Bears, I would have picked Boss Bailey probably.

[vtbub]

Colts get Dallas Clark

[bosshogg23]

I hope for Indy's sake Clark can play both ways.

[ISiddiqui]

LOL

[ISiddiqui]

Giants - William Joseph

GREAT PICK!

[vtbub]

Giants get William Joseph

[SunDancer]

What was your guys gut reaction to Willis? They just signed Gary as well, but for how long is he signed til?

[bosshogg23]

Joseph slid pretty far. Good job for the Giants.

Both top LB's are still there.......come on Bailey, last until the Lions!

[vtbub]

Miami has had 4 players drafted

[FrogMan]

Originally posted by bbor
If it was the CFL draft they would have shown all 42 rounds of it:)

I think i got drafted last year in the CFL draft...and i havent been in highscholl for 12 years :D

ROFL :D

You sure got that right, bbor...

[ISiddiqui]

I don't think the Bills made a good move with Willis. They NEED Defensive help (their offense is fine). And they have a pro-bowl RB in Henry.

[vtbub]

It's a real gamble to take a player that may never play again.

[JeeberD]

Especially when you're a team that plays on artificial turf. That's gonna be rough on his knee...

[vtbub]

Niners get Kwame Harris

[ISiddiqui]

Niners for for Offensive Line help.

Is Harris gonna take over for a OL that SF thinks they can't keep?

[SunDancer]

I think the Bills are fine defensively. They do have some depth issues up front, but they have many picks. If Willie is develops into his potential, with a promising young line that looks to be good, the Bills may be awesome here.

[vtbub]

Time to go, gotta spend time with the wife. It's too late to be cocky and funny for me.

[bbor]

Originally posted by vtbub
Time to go, gotta spend time with the wife. It's too late to be cocky and funny for me.

Hmm....must have a small cock :D

[ISiddiqui]

I think the Bills are fine defensively.

That was their problem last year. The Offense was awesome.

I would have picked Joseph if I was the Bills.

[JeeberD]

Hmm, is Holmes injury that serious?

[ISiddiqui]

Larry Johnson for Kansas City

Hopefully he'll actually be a GOOD NFL RB unlike the others from Penn State :D.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally posted by JeeberD
Hmm, is Holmes injury that serious?

They think so, I guess.

[tucker342]

It's about time that Dallas gets drafted. Colts fans are going to really enjoy watching him play.

[tucker342]

dola-

the vikings are pathetic, they got so lucky that the guy they wanted wasn't picked

[ISiddiqui]

He's a TE, what did you expect him to go 10th? ;)

[ISiddiqui]

Titans pick CB Woolfolk.

[Rich1033]

I was hoping the Titans would go with the Boss. Oh well, Woolfolk should turn into a good corner.

[ISiddiqui]

The Boss HAS fallen, hasn't he? He could be a steal for whoever picks him.

Wouldn't that be something if San Diego, gets rid of Seau and plugs in the Boss :D.

[bosshogg23]

Woolfolk would scare me with only 1 season as a CB. Little higher than I thought he would go.

[bosshogg23]

I think Henderson as a MLB would be a better fit with SD than Bailey. Although Bailey could help any team.

[ISiddiqui]

Wasn't Seau been playing more OLB last season?

[bosshogg23]

He is going to play OLB with Miami. I thought he played MLB most of the time in SD. Cant say that I saw the Chargers play much(at all) last year.

[Cuckoo]

Originally posted by bosshogg23
Woolfolk would scare me with only 1 season as a CB. Little higher than I thought he would go.

Why? MacGahee was only a starter for one year. Palmer only had one good year. Woolfolk split time at WR and CB the season before and corner is actually his natural position. I understand he's a little raw on technique, but I say this guy is easily the third best corner in the draft.

[ISiddiqui]

Interesting the Pack pick Nick Barnett, LB

[bosshogg23]

Why? MacGahee was only a starter for one year. Palmer only had one good year. Woolfolk split time at WR and CB the season before and corner is actually his natural position. I understand he's a little raw on technique, but I say this guy is easily the third best corner in the draft.

I think Leftwich is better than Palmer so I wouldnt have made Palmer the 1st QB taken.

McGahee was damn good in his full season. Being behind Portis his first year is understandable. There is speculation that McGahee knew he wouldnt win the starting job back so he bolted(Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfldraft/tracker/player?id=7089) ) I would have picked him in the 2nd round, even with the injury.

Woolfolk IS probably the 3rd best corner in the draft. I dont dispute that. Athletic as hell and fast. Just has very little experience and will have serious growing pains IMO. I thought(and was wrong) that he would be picked in the 2nd round.

[bosshogg23]

Sounds like there might be a mini run of DB's. Doss before not too long. I wonder where Weathersby ends up.

[Cuckoo]

Originally posted by bosshogg23
I think Leftwich is better than Palmer so I wouldnt have made Palmer the 1st QB taken.

McGahee was damn good in his full season. Being behind Portis his first year is understandable. There is speculation that McGahee knew he wouldnt win the starting job back so he bolted(Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfldraft/tracker/player?id=7089) ) I would have picked him in the 2nd round, even with the injury.

Woolfolk IS probably the 3rd best corner in the draft. I dont dispute that. Athletic as hell and fast. Just has very little experience and will have serious growing pains IMO. I thought(and was wrong) that he would be picked in the 2nd round.

I agree with almost everything you say here. My point was that he has just as much experience as anyone else. I also think he will have some growing pains, but I figured he deserved to be a first rounder.

[detroit_fan]

Can you beleive it Boss may still be available for the Lions!

[detroit_fan]

Cinci pick anybody but Boss!!!!!!

[RonnieDobbs]

If the Boss is open for Chicago, it'd be a nobrainer IMO. Will replace Colvin beautifully. I can't believe he's fallen this far. :(

[detroit_fan]

My draft is complete!!!! The Lions get Boss!!!!

[bosshogg23]

Great luck for the Lions to have Boss fall so far. Like Rogers in 01, Kalimba Edwards in 02, they take another injury concern who fell in 03.

[Schmidty]

Hell yeah!!! Boss to the Lions!!!

This has been a great draft so far!!!

[detroit_fan]

I bet Ford Field is a rockin now!